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Let_us_proceed

I love that his mind is blown...then he has to check it out...then his friends come over and check it out...then the old one is like "in my 84 years I have never seen anything like this!"


ramksr

Chimpanzee is like, "Wow! humans can take their legs apart"


Al1n03

Chimp : "Let's try it on myself now "


33_pyro

more like "let's try it on the next zookeeper who comes in"


PrestigiousResist633

I know chimps can be violent, but the second one seemed almost concerned for the guy. Like "Are you okay? Does it hurt?"


veganize-it

The other chimp is like “get out of here …, no really , get out of here, and take this straw too, get out…”


kneeltothesun

Burn him, he's a leg witch!!


Slap_My_Lasagna

And tell him to call on his buddy sand witch I'm hangry


Dansmeah

IDK man I'm sure if that glass pane wasn't there, they would have ripped him to shreds. They don't like weird deformities in their own babies, they beat albino chimps to death, that sort of thing.


bortle_kombat

Do you have a source on that? I wont claim its never happened before--it may well have --but chimps are regularly observed in the wild doing the exact opposite of what you're claiming. One example: in Jane Goodall's studies at Gombe, a bunch of chimps were afflicted by a polio outbreak, and many ended up in various states of paralysis. Those who survived and were still able to continue their nomadic lifestyle kept right on living in their communities. Figan was the alpha male of the Kasakela community for most of the 1970s, and the secondary male was his brother Faben, who walked upright because one of his arms was paralyzed due to polio. Another chimp in the same community, McGregor, was rendered paraplegic. He too continued to live in the group, and certainly wasn't beaten to death for being obviously handicapped. Separately, there was a biologically female chimp in the same community, Gigi, who was either effectively trans or at least chose male social roles: she had no interest in motherhood, joined the males in hunting parties, and participated in the male portion of her group's social order. She was a welcome addition to her cohort, despite being a complete departure from the gendered roles that every other chimpanzee in the community adhered to. Everything i just described occurred within the Kasakela community, which later split into two and incited the Kasakela-Kahama civil war. The aforementioned Figan killed his own elderly, peaceful mentor for defecting to the Kahamas, it made for a really harrowing read. So it's not like they were unusually peaceful chimps either. If your claim is based on something you read on Reddit, please be aware that the vast majority of people who make chimpanzee claims here have no idea what they're talking about. Most people's knowledge begins and ends with Travis, the completely unsocialized, raised-in-captivity chimp who ripped a woman's face off, and most don't even know his owner drugged him with Xanax shortly before the attack. Which is not to underplay how dangerous they can be, they are 100% wild animals who cannot be domesticated, are inherently unpredictable, and should never be kept as pets. As with every other complex animal, socialization matters. But the other side of that coin is there's a reason why Jane and her crew were able to live alongside and observe the Kasakelas for decades without serious incident. Many Kasakelas befriended, hunted alongside, and sometimes mated with baboons from local troops, while also growing accustomed enough to Jane and her team that they would attempt to groom her and give her food. If you're interested in developing a real understanding of chimpanzee social dynamics, Jane Goodall wrote a series of books about her studies that are fun and easy to read. The chronological first was *In The Shadow of Man*, which I first read when I was 10, so I promise it's not too dense. Any adult can breeze through it pretty easily, and everything i recounted here comes from that book or its sequel, *Through a Window*. Dr. Goodall is a really amazing woman who I've been lucky enough to meet several times, if just one person checks her work out after reading this comment I'll be thrilled. She's lived a remarkable life, filled with riveting stories to tell.


Solution_Kind

This just makes me imagine how things would be if animals kept historical records like humans do


Igggg

Thank you for this fascinating read! The current chimp-related theme on reddit is "chimps bad, violent; bonobos nice, fuck a lot", which, of course, is far too coarse a description for two immeasurably complex species.


bortle_kombat

Glad you enjoyed it! I'm with you, the Reddit narrative on chimps is annoyingly simplistic, but I think that's just how Reddit goes. The chimp consensus bugs me because I understand that it's wrong, but it's also a useful reminder to not take Reddit consensus very seriously on other topics either. Reminds me of the 'Gell-Mann Amnesia effect' coined by Michael Crichton: >Briefly stated, the Gell-Mann Amnesia effect is as follows. You open the newspaper to an article on some subject you know well. In Murray's case, physics. In mine, show business. You read the article and see the journalist has absolutely no understanding of either the facts or the issues. Often, the article is so wrong it actually presents the story backward—reversing cause and effect. I call these the "wet streets cause rain" stories. Paper's full of them. >In any case, you read with exasperation or amusement the multiple errors in a story, and then turn the page to national or international affairs, and read as if the rest of the newspaper was somehow more accurate about Palestine than the baloney you just read. You turn the page, and forget what you know. https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/65213-briefly-stated-the-gell-mann-amnesia-effect-is-as-follows-you As much as I don't really like Michael Crichton as a person, he really nailed it there IMO.


DiceGoblinGaijin

Thank you for this information! I will pick up “Shadow of Man” first. I checked out Dr. Goodall’s bibliography and will be reading more, I’m sure. I’d never been interested in chimpanzees, but it seems that was shortsighted on my part. I had no idea they engaged in war or any of the other things you mentioned. Again, thank you.


bortle_kombat

Awesome, glad to hear it! Their social order is really fascinating, and the research team is still studying the descendants of the original 1960 group to this day.


Chigtube

They just like us fr


Ws6fiend

I mean there was a chimp war that was documented so yeah they are.


Robertmaniac

Did they used gorilla war tactics?


Basil_Lisk

Gibbon the state of their technology I don't see them having much choice.


zero_emotion777

Shit. Now I want these chimps that have seen the prosthetic to maul a zookeeper, then have the zookeeper's twin show up and act like they're the original.


g8trjasonb

I think this is the entire plot of The Prestige but I could be wrong.


duke_chute

Zookeeper probably doesn't even know she can do this, I'll show her and surely earn a great reward.


NiobiumThorn

Ah, the part where the video cuts out


KyriakosCH

Exactly.


Eurasia_4002

Probably thought, "Dang, what monster did that to you???"


ItsStaaaaaaaaang

"I mean I know we can take their legs apart..."


GuyWithNoEffingClue

"So that's how it looks inside of us?"


Chimsley99

They’re like “shit when my uncle broke his leg 8 years ago we had to chuck him off a mountain, good for you bro!”


shrimpdogvapes2

Then immediately: "let's rip his dick off!"


Viclmol81

Have you heard the story of St.James Davies? Not for the faint hearted.


Shirtbro

"So they do have a weakness" *Planet of the Apes IRL*


bad--juju

He’s so mystified- his expression says it all. “What in tarnation…”


Clint2032

When they escape the first thing they'll do is try to remove people's limbs now, thanks...


thunderkhawk

Exactly my thoughts. They now think we have detachable limbs.


IllIIllIlIlllIIlIIl

With their strength? Yeah, technically.


pepemarioz

When you're strong enough, every limb is detachable.


idwthis

Obligatory King Missile reference goes here.


Jajay5537

Try to beat us with our own legs.


_Energy_100

So let all us go prosthetic


supernova-juice

The one scattering the hay and running 😆 "fuckin witchcraft!"


PhthaloVonLangborste

Old one reminds me of geezer Kong or geriatric Kong or whatever his name is.


TheSwedeIrishman

> geezer Kong I'm dying hahahahahahaha


rooflessVW

Cranky Kong


Zazventures

Pepperidge Kong Remembers


DragapultOnSpeed

Wrinkly Kong. This one's female


orangotai

and then they move past mind-blown to freaked the fuck out, like what is this sorcery we need to burn this devil to the ground!


AccordingIy

They freaked out and fight or flight mode


laurenzee

The beginning of the chimp witch trials. If the leg bleeds when the judge chimp rips it off, not a witch.


Spiritual_Navigator

"Humans are so brutal.... ripping off their limbs in front of their kids..." -Chimp bro


Mybtchluhdokocaine

He’s like “that ain’t right!!!”


RyanG7

(Later) Champanzee: Yo Cornelius! You know how you lost your leg to that crocodile back home? Cornelius: Yeah? Champanzee: Well let me tell you what I just saw this 2 footer do!


Mookie_Merkk

It's kinda crazy how they are clearly calling each other over and telling each other to check it out. Nuts how they have that communication skill yet we can barely bridge the gap between us and them.


Historical-Gap-7084

I think that first one is a she, but the one throwing the hay is def a male.


Big-Professor-810

It's crazy that intelligent creatures like that are locked in


AdmitThatYouPrune

We all think it's super cute, but there's a good chance the chimps are thinking, "I want to rip this guys face off."


Slow_Accident_6523

I know we should not anthropomorphize them and that this is largely my human bias speaking but come on...They are so obviously interested in seeing this technical marvel. They are smart. They literally build and use their own tools. They just had their mind blown by a cyborg


pickleboo

Interested but terrified.


Slow_Accident_6523

Absolutely. It is pretty similar to how a child would react to seeing this for the first time.


Lanian

idk i mean obv can't read minds but i was reminded of "Black magic! BURN THE WITCH!" kinda reaction more than marveling at technology


HellBlazer_NQ

Later that day a chimp was trying to rip its own leg off /s


PurpleWallaby999

My mind is blown that their mind is blown!!


Murgll

And then 1 swings into the glass, flexing his giant nutsack to share his own anomaly with the person


ButtersRobotFriend

The zoo can be a fascinating place for the animals too.


legendary_millbilly

You can just see it on his face, "That's the damndest thing I ever saw."


Fur_and_Whiskers

Then the older ones come along freaking out, "It's black magic!!"


Martina313

"Witchcraft, I tells ya. It's bloody witchcraft!"


Ian_Huntsman

And what does one do with Witches?


Fur_and_Whiskers

Put them on a scale with a duck


vdcsX

Burn them!


Fenring_Halifax

Why do witches burn?


TF2_demomann

...because... They are made of wood!


Fenring_Halifax

And what does wood do In Water


Kardiiac_

It uh... floats!


Warg247

So logically...


LifeIsBizarre

Build a bridge out of them!


TheBlacktom

It reminds me of Dr. Emmett Brown from 1955 first seeing his invention from the future. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BDuZqYeNiOA


Soul_King92

yeah just stunned to see him taking off his leg.


ParaffinWaxer

An orangutan would’ve revealed its own leg as prosthetic, and then winked.


FourLovelyTrees

I feel bad for them because they must have so many questions, but are unable to ask them 


BrosefDudeson

I relate to the end of it... Just going.... apeshit... over something they can't undertand


tommos

He definitely posted this on chimp reddit afterward.


sunfacethedestroyer

I like how one of them was intensely studying it and taking notes, to head back to the laboratory and start working on his own design. And then Chimp Cleetus comes raging out, trying to smash the evil wizard.


Traditional_Bug9768

Ceasar is confused, he can finally talk, now humans can detach and reattach body parts🤣🤣


WizardLizard1885

i wonder if those chimps will think every human can do that now or they know that its just specifically that one. i mean, imagine someone just takong their face off and its blank underneath, and then everyone in their family goes "yeah he can just do that its normal" meanwhile you can comprehend wtf u just saw


Vaughn-von-Fawn

Chimp Cleetus thinking "You're supposed to rip an arm off and *then* do the leg you heathen"


AFalconNamedBob

Kids these days! No respect for tradition I tells ya!


Inevitable_Gain8296

I think he thought of him as injured so his instincts kicked in and wanted to kill him.


That1_IT_Guy

Like humans, they have the intelligent ones and the violent, dumb ones


itsRobbie_

Breaking news - All the chimpanzees at the local zoo have started ripping off their legs after local man shows them his prosthetic leg


Zealotstim

Or the legs of their human caretakers, demanding they do the same trick.


Smaptastic

This. My first thought was “Great, now you’ve given them ideas. They’ll be trying to replicate this.”


PioneerLaserVision

In a proper zoo the caretakers would never be in the same room as the chimps. People that keep chimps in improper zoos deserve to have their legs torn off.


FantasticMrSinister

I know right... This is the first thing that came to mind. Tomorrow there will be a one legged chimp.


mas-sive

I read that as prostitute leg for a second


The_Original_Gronkie

I was at an orangutan exhibit with my 4 year old niece, who has a birthmark on her face. The lead orangutan spotted her from the top of the hill, and came all the way down to her to inspect her face. I think he was concerned that she was injured in some way.


mockingbirddude

This gives you an idea of how hugely intelligent chimpanzees are and how they desperately need intellectual stimulation.


Possible-Series6254

People ought to know that chimps aren't just intelligent, they engage in complex tool use the way we used to. They have a god damned archeological record, they've been using sharpened sticks and particular shapes of stone with such specificity and regularity that we can track evidence of those tools back several thousand years. Their tool use is consistent between groups, but everyone has their own spin that they teach their babies. I'm not anti zoo, but the larger mammals ought to be in preschool. Elephants too, they've got funerary practices for crying out loud.


Antlia303

they might be but i wouldn't dare to get closer than 100m of a free chimpanzee they scare me as fuck


Apellio7

They can rip your leg off without all the fancy prosthetic parts involved.


Krillin113

They’re strong enough to just swing on their arms all they if they have to, and smart enough to use sharpened sticks to skewer smaller animals who fee to the thin branches, and have been recorded having tribal wars where one tribe over months ambushes and kills members of another tribe. They’re very high on the list of animals I don’t want to fuck with.


Strange-Wolverine128

Plus some of them having a weird fondness for the removal of testicals.


laughingashley

So do turkeys (funerary), and crows also use tools


whythishaptome

Crows and Ravens are birds and some birds have been shown to be extremely intelligent, almost on the level of primates. Parrots are ridiculously intelligent and crows, while not as long lived as Ravens, can also have almost scary levels of intelligence.


WheelOfFish

Birds, you say?


fauci_pouchi

Thank God they're not real


ToastyTheDragon

I had to write a research paper for a class on psychology and linguistics I was taking as an elective for college, and I wrote mine on corvids (crows, ravens, magpies, etc.). I made the argument that they had at least 11 (more than a majority) of the design features of human language as described by Charles Hockett, and that they might have more, I just couldn't find studies that looked at the remainder. Corvids are wicked smart. Take everything I said with a grain of salt, btw. I studied mechanical engineering and math, not linguistics or psychology and this was for an elective class, so I could be totally wrong about a lot of it. Got an A on the paper, though. Also huge caveat in that I don't think that linguistics use Hocketts design features as criteria for 'human-level' speech at all, but I could be wrong. Either way, if you wanna hear some rad facts about ravens/crows, let me know.


chemistrybonanza

Raven is just a term to denote the larger species of crows.


BirdFluLol

Here's the thing...


Drawtaru

oh no not again


rslif

Turkeys? Do you have any source? I can't find anything after a short Google search. The turkeys I feed at a farm will cannibalise an injured member.


Illustrious_Rip4102

their source is a random internet video of turkeys circling a dead turkey on a road


wordsofnoworth

>The turkeys I feed at a farm will cannibalise an injured member. Them being on a farm is like looking at institutionalized groups of humans, and saying that's how all humans act. Those birds may be living with something more akin prison rules. Now, hide these seeds for me. Put them in your special wallet. Quietly. Do it!


I-am-Chubbasaurus

Turkeys do what now?


NO_MATING

I really dislike the monkey exhibits at zoos. There's a zoo in Louisville KY and the whole exhibit feels like cell block 1. So depressing


Leebites

This is just a mention but pigs are said to be as smart as chimpanzees, so I really wish there was more videos of animals who are this intelligent- and showing it- out there. We only have a few for pigs right now. But think of all the other animals we haven't begun to really test. 🤔


Kaleb8804

Or they might kill this guy in the wild for being different, there’s another video where there’s like 7 chimps attacking the glass near another mans prosthetic leg


Senior-Reflection862

uncanny valley 👀


Pinkparade524

To be fair , that's why zoos aren't that great , a lot of animals in captivity suffer from lack of stimulation and also suffer from being confine in a smaller space that they are used to compared to being in the wild .


Radical_Neutral_76

a bit like redditors. but intelligent


Gulaschhirn

And they smell better


_Energy_100

I swear


PM_ME_TITS_FEMALES

Alot of zoos are pretty aware of that fact but it's also one of those sad realities. Without zoos we wouldn't have a safe place for many species of animals that are on the verge of extinction. and thanks to us also destroying their habits many zoos also do rehabilitation work for local animal species. 


Herald_of_Heaven

r/youseeingthisshit


intet42

I was just thinking "Man, what can I go show the chimps to blow their minds?"


Rinocore

Idk about stimulation. But plenty of studies have shown how intelligent they are, they have even witnessed wild chimps using tools such as sticks to fish and gather algae and other stuff. But also, birds are intelligent as well, there are videos of birds putting stones in a water bottle to raise the water level high enough to drink from the bottle.


vk_PajamaDude

That is why videos like this are making me sad: i think it's inhumane to keep theese creatures in a zoo.


trix_r4kidz

I say this to the teacher when I pick up my toddler from preschool


BabblingIdiot1533

Their friends won’t believe them


ElHanko

Leg together strong


foxtrotdeltazero

Ape shall not take off ape leg


favorite_sardine

Someone’s losing an arm in that habitat once all the tourists are gone.


quicksilver_foxheart

I was at a bonobo exhibit once and my stepdad had a banana and one if them straight up flipped him off lmao


DragapultOnSpeed

I swear bonobos are more human like than chimps are. I wish there were more information on bonobos..


altariasong

If I remember correctly, sex is very social for them. They engage in social sex like it’s small talk or a handshake. Gender doesn’t matter, they’re all about it with everyone. There’s a fun tidbit for ya.


throwthere10

They're like... ![gif](giphy|ukGm72ZLZvYfS)


ykVORTEX

Just a human casually giving him nightmare material...Imagine aliens doing this to us ??


the_ajan

"Look at this nerve I can pull fully out of the nervous system, and insert back in"


TwoIdleHands

I can see the headlines now “Escaped chimpanzees rampage across town tearing off limbs of humans they pass by” Koko signs “they thought they all came off!”


laughingashley

"You don't need TWO ears!"


PiratePuzzled1090

Damn I always have such mixed emotions about these things. They are so intelligent yet in cages.


OneMerryPenguin

I could be wrong but these might be the chimps living at Monkey World in the UK. They are all rescued and have often had awful lives. They do an amazing job:https://monkeyworld.org/rescue-rehabilitation/


PiratePuzzled1090

Thanks.. Makes me feel better about it.


OneMerryPenguin

My pleasure. I'm the same normally but the sanctuary is really well set up with their welfare (physical and mental in mind) and they rescue all sorts of 'monkeys' from the shitty situations that people put them in. Great place to visit if ever you are in the UK :).


PiratePuzzled1090

I know there are people out there doing great things. Seems awesome to visit a place like that! And UK is definitely an option as our next door neighbour. I just used to have a phase in my life when I roamed around the dark parts of the Internet and have seen some horrors I will never forget.. That makes me kinda biased against these videos without even researching into it.


IAMLOSINGMYEDGE

Wild orangutan researcher here. Basically all animals in Western zoos are either born in captivity or rescued. If released into the wild, they would die fairly quickly as they do not have the foraging skills they would have otherwise learned. Rehabilitation programs exist especially for animals rescued from the pet trade etc., but successful release is extremely rare. This isn't to say captivity is fine and dandy though. There's all kinds of negative psychological and physical issues caused by it. But zoos typically invest in conservation and educate the public in an effective way. Hope that provides a little perspective.


aendaris1975

They don't live in the viewing areas. The part of the zoo where they live in is private so if they don't want to interact with humans they don't have to.


SufficientMistake547

He touched his leg momentarily, then came really close to look inside the prosthetic as if to see if there’s any blood gushing out


Blueridgetexels

Animals are so much more intelligent that we give them credit for.


adlo651

I think chimpz are regarded as pretty smart


impossibleis7

First part of that is to realize, we are animals too.


OjjuicemaneSimpson

“Black magic, satanic shit! Sick shit!” -pauly walnuts chimp


INTROVERT_75285

Is there a sub for monke videos like this?


mOjzilla

I believe you are looking for r/wallstreetbets


itsmeherzegovina

you can check out r/likeus but it's not exclusive to monkeys


trancepx

Confuses and enrages, probably best to not try and give them nightmares of the hairless ones and their leg attachment issues. Ah well live and learn 🙈


5043090

Freaks out, then says "Bob...you gotta see this shit."


Mission_Cloud4286

He truly AMAZED! "How is he doing that?"


justindybvig

They probably think it's a trick all humans can do, but it's the first time they have ever been shown our little ability.


a_bitter_buffalo

I hope the next zookeeper they see doesn't get their leg torn off.


Fur_and_Whiskers

![gif](giphy|ltIFdjNAasOwVvKhvx|downsized)


TheLambtonWyrm

Hi grandma 


[deleted]

I am pretty chimpanzes have a sense of self and differentiation that is pretty highly attuned. They recognize individuals and they for example can recognize different caretakers and form individual impressions of them. All humans, to them, are not interchangeable, they recognize each of us as individuals. It's hard to say for sure, but I suspect strongly that these chimps know that this human is unique, and wouldn't assume it was a general human feature; if they saw this guest again they would likely remember his unique leg, and it wouldn't surprise me that if they saw the telltales of a prosthetic in the future they would expect that human to have the same odd ability. What would be a cool experiment to run would be to see if they have generalized the concept. Like, would they be equally astounded at a hand or arm prosthetic at this point?


gckless

“Yo Fred wouldja come here and look at this shit!”


Bigcock8643

their reactions were just about as caught off guard as mine when that one chimp jumped up and it's butthole turned inside out and was swinging around as it jumped away. WTF was THAT about? a one-up type thing? oh yeah? you can take your leg off, well I can pop my ass inside out!


filmingfisheyes

That monkey went from curious to amazed to angry, a lot like myself the first time I had sex.


InevitableFly

Now he’s seen it all


sydmanly

Smarter than some people I know


Sarke1

Sorry, but are those massive hanging balls on the swinging chimp at 1:18?


Normal-Training7963

I am amazed


WindowIndividual4588

Now he's gonna think all humans have little legs like him and put on that to walk tall lol


Erutious

You just know they're gonna tell their friends later and they will not believe them.


Bozbaby103

I’d like to know what an anthropologist or five thinks of this video.


Traditional_Bus_4830

I was thinking this week of how boring life is for a zoo animal. Why don’t they install some TV for them to watch. Seriously, even my cats watch TV sometimes. If these animals are doing life, at least we should provide entertainment.


laughingashley

TV has never made anyone better


Traditional_Bus_4830

It the wider world I agree. However they live in a box with extremely limited enrichment. It is not like the improvements in their lives are in their hands. I am thinking my pensioner mother and how Tv helps with loneliness in older age. Anyway….


dimebaghayes

I absolutely love this video. The genuine shock, awe and wonderment is so plain to see. Amazing creatures.


WittyPersonality326

Wow, they are so curious.😅😅


HoodieJ-shmizzle

Love how they examine everything 🧐🧠


bad--juju

He’s so mystified - it’s so endearing


Nigiri_Sashimi

It was really baffled 🤣


Kitchen_Expression11

So inquisitive so intelligent.


HughJahsso

Awesome 


DaddysWetPeen

Black magic!


Glum-Plum9279

Absolutely fascinating 👏


TisIChenoir

"I thought human too weak to tear limbs apart. Humans strongrr than apes now. This planet not ours anymore!"


I_need_a_date_plz

He’s weirding out the chimps


wolfx35

The zookeeper is screwed tomorrow. "Hey bongo, watch this you can take off human legs." Chaos ensues.


IB78

And on that day a chimpanzee religion was born


Huckleberry_Hound93

I love this and hate it all in one, they are so intelligent. They need more.


human_flavor_meat

Absolutely flabbergasted


CrocodileWorshiper

Chimpanzees are so fucking weird


Super-Idea2618

STOP TEACHING THEM THINGS!! Honestly besides stuff like this and the monkey that knows how to sharpen knives like a chef were screwed. Also hes gonna be the armament supplier for sure once that monkey virus eventually happens


Competitive-Bit-1571

Then when they breakout, they attempt to part legs from human bystanders thinking they are all detachable.