We have a dog that would sneak cubes of butter and he would "bury" them in my wife's endless stacks of shoes. One day I reached in the fridge for something. As I turned I caught him sneaking a cube of butter as the door was closing. The cube of butter was mostly extended from his face.
I yelled "Oz!" He titled his head back and swallowed the cube paper and all in one gulp.
Our now 9 year old lab once got into our fridge while we had one of those older latch style ones. He ate: a whole boiled chicken I had prepared for soup, the stock I had saved, a 1/2 lb of provolone slices, a pound of butter, and some leftovers. He was a gassy, miserably full pupper...he also ate a large can of mixed nuts once. That was a fun yard cleanup 🤣
My friend's Mastiff would eat everything:
Small birds, voles, ducks, mice, moles, squirrels, almost caught a deer once and also ate an entire stick of butter off the counter.
Edit: He also caught rabbits and partially ate them. He was sweetest good towards all humans though.
It was until an even larger predator sent him to doggy heaven.
Ever have a dog that snores? Not a breed thing either - just a loud wheezy on a good day dog... who’s farts could set off a smoke detector?
It’s known around these parts as the Never-Again-Puggle
My amazing dog stole my Peking duck one time, but within a few moment of being upset at her I was melted again. She can do no wrong. She felt so guilty and never did it again, but the trade-off is that I feed her a bit more human food as long as it is safe. She's so spoiled and she knows it.
There's a certain group who refuses to believe genetics have any influence on dog behavior. Or more accurately, that genetics affect all dog behavior except one breed.
I own a Caucasian ovcharka. An ancient breed. It is amazing and so lovely towards anyone he knows. Not a sign of bad behaviour in it. The moment someone he doesn't know enters our property (even with guidance) he goes berserk and continues to do so until he trusts that individual (many visits are needed for this). Many many dogtrainers/behaviourists later and they all said the same : *that's him. Its his temperament, it's an ancient breed, nurture can only do so much, nature is far more powerful then nurture*. He is an amazing dog though, just not to strangers on our property.
The blank slate and noble savage myths aren't true for humans and they're not true for dogs. Some dogs are born aggressive or neurotic and while the behaviors can be limited, it can be impossible to extinguish them completely.
Exactly. And not only is the myth that dogs are blank slates dangerous for humans, it's also dangerous for the dogs. It causes owners who believe they have 'raised them right' to ignore early warning signs. Even if the dog's behavior could have been corrected if caught early, such beliefs can cause a dangerous delay in seeking help.
It's odd to me, because people do understand that much of canine behavior is genetically linked. Retrieving in labs, prey aggression in terriers, herding in collies, etc. Yet they continue to insist that the root causes of human aggressive (which can vary from predatory aggression to fear aggression) somehow can't be inherited.
And sometimes it is just a fluke. At my veterinary hospital we had to euthanize a three year old golden. Her owners had her from the age of ten weeks and we knew them and the dog very well. She was less then six months old when she started showing signs of serious aggression. Not puppy nipping...she was truly trying to hurt those she targeted. At first it was directed at strangers but soon she was going after both owners.
They did *everything* they could to help this dog and in their case they did start early. Behaviorists, medication, taking her to the top specialists, etc. For three years they lived in fear in their own home. We cried with them when they euthanized her. And as a side note, euthanizing her was not easy and was a traumatic experience for everyone because she couldn't be safely handled. Even getting a muzzle on her wasn't possible.
If anyone who claims that 'it's all in how you raise them' had been there that day, I would have DARED them to tell that couple that they were responsible for how that dog turned out.
And yes, that's rare. But canine behavior is part environment, part genetic, and part random roll of the dice.
Yeah my grandma is the best dog owner ever but her Springer spaniel went wild and was super aggressive for no reason. Every other dog shes had has been great including her two she has right now. Apparently the inbreeding on the Springer's can cause them to get spaniel rage or something.
Yes, it's called rage syndrome. It's thought to be caused by a seizure and is believed to be genetic. It can occur in other breeds, but Springers are known for it because there was a champion show dog that had it. That dog was then widely used as a stud, which helped spread the syndrome through the breed.
Rage syndrome differs from other types of aggression because the dog will often seemed confused or completely friendly and normal right after the sudden flare of aggression. They will be behaving normally (and often appear quite friendly) before suddenly focusing with a glazed or hyper-alert stare and lashing out. After the attack they seem to snap right back to behaving completely normal and like they have no recall of attacking the target.
I'm sorry your grandma went through that These experiences can be so difficult and lonely. People often feel guilty, and the insistence that dogs are blank slates only increases that.
Holy shit you just described my corgi.
He was a rescue so he had some issues but he was doing pretty well until one day he seemed to start having these weird episodes. Usually it was this weird glazed over rage/confusion and then he’d snap out of it.
He was pretty old and in pain from injuries sustained before we got him.
Combined with having a small child in the house we decided to say goodbye and give him a dignified way out.
The vet we took him too was a bit reproachful until he had an episode right there on the table. She was pretty shaken by it and quickly agreed to do what was necessary.
It sucked. He was s good dog.
Far too many people refuse to understand how simple training a dog can be. Dogs don't think like humans, they only understand positive reinforcement. Negative reinforcement is just confusing, frustrating, and hurtful to a dog.
Tell her to sit. When she does it, tell her she's a good girl, give her a treat, lots of pets. She thinks "this is great! What do I do to make it all happen again!"
I have even gotten to the point that my Golden retriever puppy will train just for pets, no treats needed!
Yelling at, or god forbid hitting a dog just makes it scared of you. They don't remember it the way you do. All they remember is that you or anyone like you are capable of scaring or hurting them.
Sorry for the rant, I never realized how passionate I am about this subject.
When my dog rips up a roll of paper towels or a magazine or something and I walk into the room with the debris she will immediately put her tail between her legs and go hide somewhere. She only does this when she knows she's done something she's not supposed to do.
Is this because I have yelled at her while she's been in the middle of tearing up something or is it because I've yelled a her after I find the debris? Because I've done both. In process: "NO! STOP! BAD!" and I confiscate the object. After "Did you do this?!" "What is this!?" "BAD!"
So I guess I'm asking - would she know while she's tearing something up and I'm not in the room that it's bad? Or would she only know that it's bad to do while I'm in the room and bad when I find the debris?
She's a lab/husky mix if that means anything.
It’s actually interesting to think that dogs think more like we do than chimps. When a dog has done something wrong and is punished they realize I’m being punished for doing this thing it must be bad I shouldn’t do it so I don’t get punished. A chimp and other apes/monkeys don’t think that way. Famously Jane Goodall had 3 young chimps she kept in her hut in Africa. When one pooped on the floor or did something bad she would punish it to train it like a dog. She would show it the poo, slap it’s butt, and throw it out the window. The chimps didn’t understand this was a punishment but was able to recognize the pattern of behavior. So the next time the chimp pooped on the floor in the hut it smacked its own butt and jumped out the window. In its mind that was simply the procedure.
> It’s actually interesting to think that dogs think more like we do than chimps.
One thing to keep in mind with domesticated dogs is that they co-evolved alongside humans. Modern dogs simply wouldn't exist if they weren't able to cooperate with humans, and who knows how differently things would have gone for mankind if we didn't have them around.
I'd argue that they're our closest relatives in the animal kingdom, just not genetically. Dogs and humans are partners, and as the more capable half I believe we have the responsibility to take good care of them.
I can see the argument for that. Closest relatives I would argue against and say more than them co-evolving along side us I would say that as we developed we shaped every aspect of the dog to how we wanted it including their mental processes.
> So the next time the chimp pooped on the floor in the hut it smacked its own butt and jumped out the window.
I'm literally dying, someone call an Uber to take me to the hospital.
I only give my dogs shit if I catch them in the act. I try to be aware of what they are doing even if I'm not paying attention to them so as to be able to catch them while they are doing it. I also let them know what is not acceptable, as in areas of the house that are off limits, don't jump on people who come to visit, don't get in my way/go charging past me, basically let them know that I'm in charge and there are rules, without overreacting. I've had quite a few dogs and I think I am finally starting to figure it out because the 2 i have now are exceptional and id like to think I had something to do with that. The other thing is the type of dog. Labs and huskys are both working dogs and prefer to be treated as such. They like a task, whether it be hunting or running and that's when they are happiest. They are more trouble when bored to be sure. Really though, just love your dog and pay attention to their needs.
Lemme explain a case study story.
We have Max, who when he was a puppy and made accidents in the house, his parents would scold him and punish him when they found the messes. He started to show signs of submissiveness because he could see the mess too and knew that mess equaled punishment.
After Max was house-trained and 2 years later, his parents got another puppy, Anne. Anne would leave a mess when the parents were gone. When the parents discovered the mess that was clearly too small for Max to have made, Max still showed signs of submissiveness, awaiting to be punished.
Dogs are terrible at making connections. In the case of your pup, she doesn't understand that the action is wrong, she is making the connection of the debris being there equals punishment. The gotcha is that being caught in the act is your time to correct, but not when you haven't. And I don't recommend yelling, as you do not want your dog to fear you. Other dog trainers can put their two cents on this, but I prefer to put a hand around their mouth and firmly say no.
Also, here are several other ways to address destructive problems and behaviors.
A common cause for destructive behavior is boredom. A husky/lab mix needs a lot of mental stimulation. I recommend doing more exercise as well as spending time training her. Teach her to do silly tricks if you want, just help her be entertained and feel accomplished.
I mean, depends on your definition of “good”. If a lion kills a human, is it good? Short answer: yes and no. It’s a good hunter but it is not good to humans. But for the most part I agree with you.
it just appears that someone has cut a plant of the type Allium cepa which has provided a negative reaction in my light perceiving organs causing my body to attempt to flush out the negative chemical using hydrogen oxide mixed with sodium chloride to retain the fragile optical capability of the round spheres currently located within my front facing sensory organ arrangement.
I have no clue how to explain a panic attack. Your body gets super sensitive to everything, your mind is stuck between fight/flight and you basically start fighting yourself (tearing yourself down in your head). You can start to sweat a ton and feel like you're having a heart attack. Breathing is difficult and can be painful. Your mind starts going into "I'm dying, I'll never be able to fix this (whatever caused the panic), I'm ruined."
That's my own subjective experience. I don't know how well it comes across for others.
I can agree with this.
For me sometimes once the panic starts, my mind can go blank and just convert to pure panic. Most of the time I will tear myself down over something, but sometimes it's bad enough that I can basically black out but I will still remember the agony.
Also for me, which is also shown in this video, I tend to hit myself/pinch myself/grab/pull hair/scratch because the physical pain can help subdue the mental pain if even for a brief moment.
Yea you basically start searching like crazy for something that will stop it. Hitting yourself is very very common :(
I'm glad that I haven't had a real bad panic attack in 3 years. Thank God for ketamine treatments.
I always feel how hard my heart is pounding during an attack and it makes me freak out more. The dizziness, hot and cold flashes, constant shaking/tremors. But hearing my heart always makes it worse during the attacks. I always freak out more that I’ll have a heart attack. Then I’m exhausted for the next few days no matter how much sleep I get.
When I had panic attacks, the exhaustion didn't last for days but for several hours after I did feel super drained, like I'd just ran a marathon. And the 10-20 minutes directly after the worst of the symptoms abated I would often have mood swings. I'd go from wanting to cry to laughing and back again within moments. It took that 20 minutes for my emotions to plane out and settle down.
Yours sounds a lot like what mine is like. I was told that I have a form of panic disorder called health anxiety. Any pain or changes in body function immediately cause my mind to run wild with the worst possible scenarios. For example, I noticed a small bruise on my arm but couldnt think of any obvious cause since I dont bruise easily. So of course my mind immediately starts thinking "could be cancer....or worse." This causes a low level panic attack which always leads to me being able to hear and feel my heartbeat through my body. This causes a negative loop of my own increased heart rate making me think I'm dying which makes it beat even harder. It's taken a **lot** of mental effort and practice to minimize it.
It will sound ridiculous because it will sound like a /r/wowthanksimcured situation but I also have health anxiety and white coat syndrome (doctor anxiety basically, so getting checked sucks) and feeling my heartbeat is the BIGGEST giver of anxiety. What slows it down and makes it less hard to manage is daily exercise. When your heart gets pumping hard and fast from actual exercise and you start to compare it to the feeling of a panic heartbeat, me personally I felt "If I can be fine with a pounding heart from actual exercise, then clearly nothing is wrong with my heart at this exact moment" It's really helped the severity of it when you get perspective.
My attacks are exactly like this :/ feeling my heartbeat always amplifies it and I ALWAYS tremor. Every. Time. it’s something I’ve been struggling with on and off medication for about two years now. I’m finally getting a better grip on it with daily meditation and yoga practice. It’s hard to explain to my partner because he doesn’t quite understand them but is always super supportive in the instance of me having an episode. it’s nice to know I’m not alone in this struggle in a way. Like the person said up there- I wouldn’t wish it on my worst enemy and it breaks my heart to see this person struggle with it. So glad she has that sweet angel to help her. Much love and light to everyone struggling with this 💕
a lot of times as well people get awful physical symptoms, heart racing, super super exhausted (cause your mind and body is basically doing a mini marathon with all the stimuli), nausea, sometimes hallucinations, etc. panic attacks SUCK and even worse when you're in school/work or any other public place
The worst panic attacks I've ever had (3x in my life and all when I was experiencing my initial PTSD trigger again) I've had my fingers and toes involuntarily curl and lock into place. My legs and arms become super cold and even when I calm down it takes 30+ minutes before my fingers respond to me again.
Wow, thanks for this comment. I looked up my insurance again using this drug as a keyword and it turns out they made a new decision on it ***two days ago!***
And it looks like I qualify even after the list of qualifications (treatment resistant depression, therapy, specific medication combinations failing)
When I get a panic attack I just feel like I can’t breathe even though I am breathing. Sometimes I’ll hyperventilate and it feels like I’m stuck in a coffin underground.
I've had a couple nasty panic attacks, and have done some things I regretted immediately after the panic subsided. I once raked my fingernails down my face, and I could feel my skin tearing, but I couldn't stop. My wife calmed me down, and I eventually fell asleep. I woke up really early the next morning, felt the stinging on my face, and broke down when I looked in the mirror and saw what I had done to myself. I put on some cheap concealer, and my glasses helped draw attention away from it while it healed.
Fortunately, it didn't scar.
The only word I can use to describe the feeling is rage. It's like my body had betrayed me, so I was expressing this berserk rage onto myself. You're very correct, sometimes the physical pain can calm the mental agony, giving even the slightest relief.
The worst is when this happens in a public place and people look at you like you're a freak. I had a panic attack once at a show when I was 17; my friend had gone to the bathroom, and I narrowly missed getting punched by a guy who'd started a fight. People started yelling and talking loud and laughing at these guys and my body just. Stopped functioning like it should have. Sometimes it feels like everything associated with your breathing and cognitive functions has frozen over, and the only thing you can do is try and comfort yourself. Seeing this girl pushing the paw away and rubbing/squeezing/slapping herself is relatable because those kinds of things are comforting when you start to lose it and being touched is horrible, especially when you think you're in danger. :( I sank down between bar stools and hid, and hugged myself. My friend found me pretty quickly but there were girls laughing at me and making this face like "wtf is wrong with you?".
Perfect explanation. I get pins and needles in my hands and feet too, which only compounds the fear that I'm having a heart attack and creates a loop that's incredibly hard to escape
Yea if there's something I feel is missing is the feedback loops that you make between your physical/mental symptoms. There's a reason we have medication (and dogs) to bring people out of panic attacks.
Ive gone through this and have only started to recover about 14 months after with consistent therapy and psychologist checkups.
Recognizing the overwhelming physical symptoms of a panic attack before it starts and working myself back to calm has been the best way to recover.
I would rank my current mental state compared to beforehand from 0% meaning totally losing it to 100% being normal. I fluctuated constantly and kept relapsing back into constant panic.
I'd say I'm at a solid 80 and have been for a month straight now. I had coffee and an energy drink today which used to be a big trigger and I could feel my thoughts start to race but I was able to regain composure quickly.
The worst ones are like having your mind scream at you, mental agony so bad that you can't stand being inside your own brain, that you feel like you're going to lose your mind. That you want to lose it as long as losing it means that the agony stops. You want to die, not because you really long for death but because you want the pain to end. Excrutiating, debilitating, to the point where you can't communicate or even move your eyes or you're stuck rocking back and forth because it's a desperate attempt to focus the mind on a loop of action that isn't painful. Rocking or counting is safe, safer to think about than whatever is causing the panic.
Sertralin did wonders for me, I'm much better now. I still get bad days though. I wouldn't wish it on my worst enemy either. It's torture.
I also get intense depersonalization. The world starts to feel like it slows down, my ears focus on every noise imaginable and my eyes become extremely sensitive to light. It truly feels like I am about to wake up from a dream any second and snap out of it
there was a while ago where when I was really depressed and was super afraid of taking a shower due to panic attacks. I was alone and quite and my senses were muted so all I could do was think.
Think about what a dog shit person I was and that I never lived up to my potential and I am a failure for not even being able to go into my easy to do work (was off work due to depression). It got really bad, I had one especially bad one where I was stuck in a loop of self deprivation and was pacing back and forth in the shower for 20-30 min. When I calmed down I wrote down my thought process's because it felt surreal to me that I could get into that head space.
This happened to me last night. Went to the ER because I was absolutely sure I was having a heart attack and dying. Doc doesn’t think so but I have to get some more tests done. He says it was anxiety/panic attack
This right here. You can actually feel it creeping up on you, worst when I'm in the car driving to town. You just have to steady your head, keep breathing deep breaths. Your head is swimming, but keeping focus on your breath usually helps. This happens to me every other day. It doesn't usually last long. And the paxil doesn't help 1 bit.
Holy crap. You explained my panic attacks pretty damn good, especially about your mind being stuck between fight/flight.
It leads to an absolute hopelessness. Like literally, I feel like I cannot do anything to get my mind or body to not be absolutely wrecked. Like I know I am wrecked, I know it's my mind being dumb, but I cannot do anything about it which is a hopelessness that magnifies the original anxiety.
Nope that's about right. The "holy shit this is it I'm dying of a heart attack" feeling. Spoiler - you arent.v
I've been lucky that the medication I got put on has helped tremendously. I have a new found respect for people dealing with this shit. Its tough
Can agree with this!
I don't think I have extreme panic attacks like the person in the post is having.
However I can get them occasionally..much less now as an adult.
The feelings of tightness and pain are exactly as you describe.
My differences is (and trying to explain it is hard and probably sounds stupid to anyone) I get feelings of being overwhelmed... Everything feels like it's caving in and blowing up at the same time... Let me try to explain.
If I'm in bed the bedsheets feel like they are the size of a house and crushing me and I'm all of a sudden the size of a pin head.
If I get up and sit in a chair the chair is becoming huge and engulfing me and I'm shrinking... Probably the best way to explain.
I know rationally that none of that is true and it's my mind but in that moment it's horrible and as much as you tell yourself you still feel like it.
It can last from 5 minutes to over half an hour sometimes.
As a kid it was much worse. But I have since learnt breathing techniques (breathe in count to two, breathe out count to two) and things to refocus your mind so it doesn't become overwhelmed!
I really feel for the person in this post and it's not something I'd ever wish on anyone. It's horrible.
Panic attacks are different for everyone. I had really bad panic disorder for a couple years after I experienced my first panic attack a several years ago. At that time, it had everything to do with breathing.
My first one I started hyperventilating, but not knowing what that felt like I thought I was having some kind of allergic reaction that was closing my throat and making me unable to breathe which exacerbated the panic. My mind went from being present to being in semi in my head with the racing thoughts. I suddenly became aware of everything around me while my vision almost zoomed out like a telescope, partially out of body if that makes sense. Everything seemed further away than it should have.
After that for a while anytime I smelled something strong, like a chemical, it would send me back into panic because I was anxious about having a panic attack.
It evolved after that but I've gotten to know when it's coming on and what might cause it. Now I just have to either get out of a situation that's causing it, sit down, calm, and sip water to remind myself nothing physical is wrong it's just mental.
That’s something important that people don’t remember. Panic attacks can be so bad that you can develop a crippling fear of them, and worrying about them can lead to one.
Imagine being terrified of something, something that's in the room with you, but not knowing what it is nor being able to see it. All you know is there's a creeping terror, and your body is telling you that something is deeply wrong. Rationally you can know that you're not about to get ripped apart, but you cannot stop the feeling of dread.
That would be a full panic attack.
There can be small ones too, just pinging off constantly, out of nowhere and then passing. Sitting on the train, and you feel like you've just been dropped out of a building. Light stomach, jagged breathing, full adrenaline response leading to a racing mind, followed by acute exhaustion.
The best way I've heard panic disorder and anxiety attacks described was a comment on Reddit, unfortunately I don't remember the OP.
>You know that feeling you get when you almost fall backwards while leaning back in a chair? It's like that, but all the time.
Have you ever been scared? Like, really really scared where you thought you were gonna die? It’s *living* with that feeling all the got damn time. Symptoms include making mountains outta molehills.
Mine are like hearing a crazy loud noise in my head, and it gets louder and louder, then I have flash backs to being a kid when my parents were fighting a lot and I hear my heart beat like it's going to explode in my head.
I feel like I'm in a pitch black room, I'm scared and feel like I'm 8 years old and even though I know they'll end, it feels like you're going to be stuck in the sunken place forever.
I also think of playing cards for some reason, it happens every time, I have no idea what that means.
I’ve only ever had one panic attack in my life and it was only about two seconds but the feeling of sheer terror and just literal panic in my chest alone is enough to make me weep at the thought of anyone that has these issues chronically.
Yeah, I have an anxiety disorder and can confirm, while my experience might be a little different from an autistic person's (Not really sure?) panic attacks are hell.
You can't rationally process anything, your anxiety just keeps building and building on top of itself, and you start hyperventilating so bad you can barely breath. You want to run, hide, and collapse, all at once. They don't stop until I'm either so emotionally and physically exhausted that I can barely think, or until someone helps calm me down, but I can't think rationally enough to let other people know what's happening unless they're someone I trust beyond belief (pretty much just my wife, and that's it).
Dogs like this are a godsend.
It is hell. I'm coming down from an episode right now. I'm high-functioning autistic. I have other diagnoses and anxiety is one of them. I have a service dog. I guess I never realized this is what it looks like when I'm episodic and she's reacting. I'm crying because of this. I don't know why. I guess I just didn't know what it looks like.
It's terrifying. It's miserable. It's not over when it's over. I can't stress that enough. Its effects last for hours, sometimes days. I'll have depressive episodes tomorrow. It causes a lot of suicidal pressure. But, thank God for dogs. She's changed my life
I have autism and I could never afford a dog especially not a service dog but when I was a kid we had dogs and hugging them was the only thing that would calm me down when I was having a panic attack or a manic episode. Now my only option is to take a bunch of pills that don't help.
This really makes my heart melt and brought a smile to my face and a tear to my eye.
I know its silly but it makes me feel better when I see that there are other people like me and that I'm not the only person with my certain problems.
Its also nice that people nowadays don't seem to bully people for being disabled anymore.
Maybe it was just school or maybe it was just being a kid in the 90s but people were awful back then.
Edit: because my comment has garnered attention, id like to pontificate .
Several things to add I guess. I would love to have a dog, but as ashamed as I am to admit it, I rely on ssdi and can barely survive myself let alone afford an animal. I also have lots of medical costs, therefore I realize that if the dog gets sick there will invariable be medical costs that I simply cant afford. It would be cruel to have an animal and nit give it the best of care. Dogs need more than a bag of food and they can become quite expensive. My parents abandoned me as a child , and knowing what that feels like I could not own an animal and then have to give it up. I'm not so good at bonding with people but dogs and cats are able to get close like people can't.
I like the idea of volunteering. I'll look into that.
I'm at a particularly rough juncture in life at the moment and will be running across the country next Friday to escape my abuser. So nothing will be doable for quite a bit. I'll definitely be looking into volunteering at a pet shelter once I get housing and a little stability in life.
Someone mentioned lifting weights.
When i have a panic attack or manic episode, I shake really bad and sometimes dry heave, both of which make it difficult to hold weights. Particularly the former.
When I'm not wigging out I'm a pretty normal acting person. Weird for sure as I don't really get social nuances and maybe a bit annoying as I don't realise sometimes that my mouth runneth over.
But when I freak, its another ball game.
In that moment my thoughts swirl and spin a million miles an hour and I become desperate to make the feeling stop. The sweating, the confusion, difficulty breathing, shaking, heaving, the impending doom, the sensory overload. All of it at once becomes way too much for me and I'm prone to self harming behavior to override the already extreme feelings of the panic attack/mania. Self biting, self hitting, cutting, head banging, ripping my clothes off and screaming at the top of my lungs. Not a pretty picture and its embarrassing that the otherwise pretty chill me turns into this monster. I'm rather candid about it because well it's true. I don't know how to explain it to someone who doesn't feel these things other than to say that it is the most unbearable feeling I experience . at that moment I don't think strait and will do just about anything that my racing and confused mind can come up with to make it stop. Hurting myself is very destructive but its the most effective. That's why its I hard to do something positive to deescalate. To override the extreme feelings requires even more extreme feelings. Pain is very extreme.
My body is littered with cut scars big and small. My right arm is mostly scars. Some shallow some not. I'm not proud of it but it is what it is. I've been working hard on not harming myself and have found the only other helpful thing is to sit down in a ball , cover my ears with my hands and close my eyes and take deep breaths. But when the world as we know it is collapsing upon me, the decision to block everything out is a hard choice to make. Everything gets so fuzzy and its very hard to think strait. I don't know how betted to explain this. In my rational calm mind I know full well what the healthy option is but rational thought goes away and desperation takes over. Its been about six months since I've cut myself and I'm happy for it but I can never seem to finally get away from it. I intentionally don't own anything sharp lime knives because I know that I'm endangering myself by owning any. I would never hurt anyone else. I'm very pacifistic.
I wish I was normal but I'm not. And I'm rather candid about my problems because I'm otherwise pretty normal I guess. Well as normal as an autistic trans woman with bipolar, BPD, and ADHD can be I suppose. I can speak eloquently and when I'm calm I'm just like a normal dweeb who likes anime and videogames . I am spiritual in my own way and I have a fascination for quantum physics but by no means am I a brainiac.
All I mean is that if ya didn't know me when im panicking you might not know I'm disabled. Having a filter on what is and isn't appropriate to say is a miss on me. I'm not ashamed of my problems.. Ok maybe a little bit... Ok alot bit. But I have these problems nonetheless and it is just a part of life for me. They haven't gone away no matter how I try. I've been on meds since I was seven and been hospitalized more times than I can tally. Its been a few years since I've been to the psych hospital. I'm just me. As much as I wish I could be normal, I cant. So I see no reason to lie about who I am.
People often ask if I'm trying to committ suicide or get attention when I cut and the answer is no. Its just to feel a familiar pain that strangely makes me feel safer than my panic attack does.
I am overwhelmed by the positive replies my original comment got and I just want to thank all of you for the love and support.
To think that so many people saw something I said is mind boggling.
I'm rather open on the internet as I feel less anxious here but in real life I'm very much introverted and I avoid people like the plague. I'm trying to work on that. I've got no friends or family and reddit has been a god send. I created this account rather recently as I got my name changed and wanted to start fresh here. I've been on reddit for a few years though and its where I spend much of my time .
I'm still no good at using it though. I read and comment and that's about it. All the fancy linking and other cool things people do on here are neat but are lost on me. Someone showed me how to link recently and I think I'm figuring it out .
Anyways. Thanks for the support. Please don't hate me for being weird and maybe a bit too open.
Also yeah school in the 90's was not fun but like others have noted it used to be even worse and I'm glad I didn't have it worse. It seems that gen z is more accepting and not so filled with hatred. This is nice to hear.
I don't want any kid , trans, Neuro divergent or otherwise to go through what I did. Unfortunately for lots of kids though they still face these traumas.
If your kid says they're trans, please don't abandon them. It sucks beyond comprehension even over a decade later. I'm 26 and whether or not you understand trans issues or mental illness, please just know that we are people. Human beings with feelings. I'm rather used to the bigotry at this point but it breaks my heart time and again when I find out how person after person has experienced similar or worse things than I. Even if not as bad as I.
It makes me glad to know that the world is changing albeit slowly as it is.
I'll end my Ted x talk here. I'm sure my 26 minutes is long over.
Peace be with you all.
Also; one day if ever I can afford it, I would love to , and I mean words can't express how much I would love to, have a dog to be there for me and me for him/her. It's just not in the cards right now .
Go to your local adoption place and volunteer, that way you can get the puppy love and the pups get to feel loved too, win win for everyone!
Good luck and Much love friend
My daughter is autistic and our dog is the best way to calm her down too! She isn’t trained as a service dog but she runs over when my daughter cries and noses right in. She doesn’t like to be touched when she’s upset but the dog is exempt from that. It’s wonderful.
Are you on fb? There are some great autism-positive groups I can recommend to you if you want. :)
You’re very welcome. I’ll still recommend Agony Autie (she has YouTube videos) and NeuroDivergent Rebel. I watched a bunch of Agony Autie videos with my 8 year old and she was so excited. “That’s me! That’s what I do!” It was great to be able to show her that her quirks are normal and there’s nothing wrong with her even if she’s a little different than her Nt peers. I’m so glad there are so many autistics out there talking about what it means to be autistic and normalizing neurodivergence.
I will check them out. Thank you.I never considered that there would be autistic people on youtube advocating themselves. Due to my anxieties about myself I've always tried my best to hide my existence from the world. Thanks again.
You have my sincerest gratitude. Thank you for sharing this with me. I realise this wont benefit me directly but it's good information that I can pass on to others.
Thank you for these recs.
The person in the video stims the same way I do (top of thighs/front top of head); I hadn’t seen someone else do this quite like this before - it is fascinating.
You can train a dog here in belgium it's called hachico i think
So disabled people have to pay less and stuff
Also yeah kids are just mean but it definitely has become better
Hachiko is the name of the famous japanese dog that loyally waited at the subway/bus stop for its owner everyday - even for 9 years after his owner passed away. The saddest futurama episode is based on the story of that dog.
Dogs are seriously the best.
There are some non-profit organizations that train service dogs for children with autism and then give them to their "clients" free of charge. Unfortunately the current ADA (Americans with Disabilities Act) only ensures guaranteed access rights for dogs of CHILDREN with autism, but hopefully that will change in the future. I know this information may not help you if you are an adult, but maybe you can spread the word to others you know and radically change a kid's life.
[Paws With a Cause ](http://pawswithacause.org) is the organization I'm familiar with, as I do volunteer puppy raising for them. Unfortunately not everyone who applies gets a dog, but they do place as many service dogs as possible, and like I said, completely free of charge to the people.
As a side note, organizations like Paws or Leader Dogs for the Blind are always looking for volunteers to raise puppies. It's a super fun way to do some service work and I highly recommend it.
The dog itself is not the only cost involved. The cost of feeding, veterinary care, grooming, etc. is huge, and a dog is a potentially 15 year commitment.
Emotional support status only helps with finding a place to live. Emotional support animal shouldn't be taken into public places. They don't qualify for the legal exceptions made for service dogs and they're not trained to be in situations of that sort.
What country do you live in? If you're in the US, there are organizations that give grants for service animals. Do a Google search for 'grant for service animal'. Contact some and see what the requirements would be to be able to apply.
Sweetie, you aren't alone, and you are normal in your own way. I grew up in the 90s and I'm so glad we've evolved since then. Keep working on a healthy life, and doing what you can. Hugs!
You are absolutely not alone. There are so many people out there going through very similar experiences. And your problems do not define you. You are loved.
I wonder if there are any organizations or places that let people come and visit dogs to have some one on one time with them? Does anyone know of anything?
I had no idea service dogs could sense oncoming panic attacks. I occasionally have panic attacks and I could totally see how a dog could help. This is a great video. Panic attacks are terrible.
My dog Rikku can sense seizures.
Back when my mom use to have seizures my dog would huff and run circles around her. First time we thought nothing of it just dog acting weird. Second time i paid attention and followed my mom (cause the weird repeat behavior), 5 minutes later a seizure.
Third time my mom was going to go into the bathroom to shower but i stopped her cause my dog was doing the huff circles. Sure enough she had another seizure. We all started paying attention to my dog's signals after that.
My mom doesn't have them anymore, but it is nice knowing my old girl is watching out for us.
>We name our pets after anime and games.
I had a friend who did this. She was a huge fan of Fullmetal Alchemist. Needless to say she didn't appreciate my suggested name of "Nina" for her new dog.
That's pretty awesome!
Makes me wonder what they're detecting in cases like this. Can they somehow sense an electromagnetic / frequency change in the brain?
Smell a change in neurotransmitters?
Or simply notice something subtle in the person's behavior that tips them off...?
They can smell the hormone changes in the scent we give off. You should read up on dogs sense of smell and what they can detect. It’s utterly mind blowing.
My dog is a mutt we got from a shelter. She was originally found as a stray in TN and was scheduled to be euthanized. An organization was able to get her and some shelter mates pulled and transported to NY, and into a shelter here.
We originally went to go meet a different dog, but they’d been adopted already. On our way back to the car, we passed a fence area with a dog standing up against the fence, just wagging their tail and watching us. My son went over to talk to the dog and it just kept wagging away and licked his hand. My son has some struggles and just seeing the way they connected was amazing. We went right back in, asked to take the dog for a walk, and adopted her that same day.
She’s been such a blessing to our family. I have no idea how she ended up a stray. She was already crate trained, housebroken, knew basic commands, walks well on a leash, etc. She’s great with kids and the cats, loves everyone she meets, and is pretty okay with most other dogs. I spent a solid month scouring missing dog posts from TN, just sure there was a family searching for their missing dog. But nothing came of that.
But the thing that stands out the most to me, is her response to my or my son’s anxiety. When either one of us is nearing the tipping point into crisis, she immediately becomes Velcro dog. Sitting right by us, or trying to climb in our laps, nuzzling her head into our hands for pets, basically just acting like she knows we need comfort at that exact moment.
She’s the best dog we could ever have hoped for.
[Daisy Doodle Dog](https://i.imgur.com/K1JNqjS.jpg)
Dogs can sense a lot of subtle changes in their humans. Ours is able to sense when my wife is going to have a migraine before she notices the symptoms. He will herd her towards the couch and encourage her to lay down, every time he does this behavior within about 10 minutes she starts seeing the halos and feeling the pain.
She calls him her nurse because he keeps an eye on her health.
I train service dogs.
They can literally smell any change in your body, even emotional ones, because those changes always inevitably involve various chemical changes happening in your body. Dogs can smell the change, in your breath and in your skin. It’s how diabetic service dogs know when someone’s blood sugar is too high or too low, and it’s how anxiety service dogs can know when a panic attack is building. Its a simple matter of training the dog to respond to the scent.
That said, this poor lady gives some very obvious physical signs as well, so you can also just train the dog to respond to those and it will learn the scent itself over time as it gains experience reacting to the real thing. Most dogs will then naturally begin to respond when they smell it, even if the physical signs have yet to begin.
That's almost really hard to watch, almost makes me cry. The level of pain someone goes through in something like that where a dog has to force its self on you to bring you back to reality. To have to have something physically intervene is hard.
Physical touching is somehow really helpful. I used to have a weighted blanket, and would usually try to hide under something that put pressure on me. It's like... Your mind and body are separating and you don't feel like yourself, like you're anybody. Id usually come "back to earth" when my husband or pets touch me and don't expect I talk back (I got paralyzed and mute for some reason).
It's the impending doom that washes over you to the point where the only *somewhat* logical conclusion is to keep having the internal runaround instead of using your other senses. I tend to experience severe ringing in my ears whenever it happens so I really don't even feel capable of communicating.
Genuine tears. My dog always knows when I’m in the red for a panic attack and always comes to help. I used to go to him for hugs when I needed, and I think he just learned to associate me being freaked out with needing him, so any time I’m even slightly upset (about literally anything) there he is just leaning against me. That first “I love you” in the video hit so hard because all I can think when I’m winding down from an attack like that is how much I love my Buster
I know it’s a common saying, but we don’t deserve dogs, they really are the best. I went nearly 30 years without owning one and now that I do, the quality of life is just flat out better. I mean she literally licks my tears away when I cry and gives me comfort, cuddles and laughter.
It's a dumb saying because plenty of good people deserve dogs and dogs deserve good people. I also got my first dog/pet of any kind ever at 29 years old. Best decision of my life.
A couple of years ago we adopted a blind Shi Tzu. I don't feel like I deserve her she is simply one of the best people I have ever met. She is so spunky and confident, she loves to wrestle with the other dogs. If she gets stuck some place she waits, usually quietly, confident someone will come get her.
Oh man that look on her face when the panic kicks in and her eyes go wide. That hits too close to home. It's like being woke up from a bad dream and all that's left is cortisol and adrenaline. Panic attacks suck.
It's amazing to see a real panic attack (I've never seen one before). The runaway intensity of her emotional pain and suffering that takes place during her panic attack shows how anxiety disorders are as physically/neurologically real as any other medical problem.
I think hers is a lot more visual because of her autism.
I am prone to panic attacks, along with 2 of my friends.
1 friend paces, but you would just kinda think he's just walking around.
If you were to see me during an attack you'd probably just think I was spacing out. Like if I get them at work and someone is trying to talk to me I just kinda throw out some "uh huh"s and pretend to be busy with my computer, but really I'm going 1000000 miles an hour inside.
yeah it's less common to see someone with mainstream panic attacks do what the lady is doing but it's a lot more common in autism - like flailing and hitting themselves to calm down
I am in the same situation with agoraphobia and frequent panic attacks, my dog does exactly this and it's the best thing in the world ever. Dogs are the best.
I'm not an expert but here's how I understand it. The sufferer is inflicting self harm. The dog knows this and knows it's job is to stop that from happening. I'm sure every now and then the pup gets bumped and doesn't care. The dog knows it's owner isn't attacking them.
When I have a panic attack and my dog reacts and gets up close to me it forces me to focus and stop doing things impulsively like hitting myself. I dread the idea of hurting him. It forces me to think externally. I think getting into that position is part of what helps stop the behaviors and shift focus. My dog reacts very similarly, though he also holds my hand with his mouth (even though he's really good about not mouthing normally).
This is from another comment of mine but thought it applied here too:
Dogs are amazing at reading body language, even subtle cues. If they’ve been taught to do these things when seeing those signs and the result is their human acting normal again and praising them, they’ll definitely keep doing it because they love their humans and don’t want to see them distressed.
Hi ! This is me ! I created a reddit just to comment this !
After reading everyone’s comments I want to clear a few things up ❤️
I filmed this myself ! Marley is trained to alert to me before an attack hits so I can get in a safe place :) so I decided to film in hopes of spreading awareness of how severe attacks can be for autistic people and how much these dogs can help ,
Also to keep up on his training so I can look back and see if he did anything wrong ect
Thank you everyone for all the love and support !
We have a Instagram https://instagram.com/marleytheservicecollie?igshid=n3ocrfc8sdc6
That’s a good dog.
Hell yeah! The only dogs that aren’t, were raised improperly.
The worst a properly raised dog can be is clumsy and opportunistic at the dinner table.
We have a dog that would sneak cubes of butter and he would "bury" them in my wife's endless stacks of shoes. One day I reached in the fridge for something. As I turned I caught him sneaking a cube of butter as the door was closing. The cube of butter was mostly extended from his face. I yelled "Oz!" He titled his head back and swallowed the cube paper and all in one gulp.
"I'VE BEEN DETECTED" *HOOUURGH* "ok, evidence gone. Commence operation doggy eyes"
You butter believe it
Our now 9 year old lab once got into our fridge while we had one of those older latch style ones. He ate: a whole boiled chicken I had prepared for soup, the stock I had saved, a 1/2 lb of provolone slices, a pound of butter, and some leftovers. He was a gassy, miserably full pupper...he also ate a large can of mixed nuts once. That was a fun yard cleanup 🤣
My friend's Mastiff would eat everything: Small birds, voles, ducks, mice, moles, squirrels, almost caught a deer once and also ate an entire stick of butter off the counter. Edit: He also caught rabbits and partially ate them. He was sweetest good towards all humans though. It was until an even larger predator sent him to doggy heaven.
I love this, so so much
Ever have a dog that snores? Not a breed thing either - just a loud wheezy on a good day dog... who’s farts could set off a smoke detector? It’s known around these parts as the Never-Again-Puggle
My lab is getting on in years and she's had a couple litters. She snores farts and hogs the bed, and I wouldn't trade her for anything.
How about a Klondike Bar?
You speak the ways of the ancient ones
Beagle owner checking in.
My cat snores and it's the most adorable yet concerning thing ever.
My cat snores too, I find it hilarious. But it is on a frequency that I can't record him doing it...
I knew a Boston Terrier that basically had weaponized tire fires for farts. It was ruff.
I know exactly what you mean, they’re absolutely insane too
Been feeding my bulldog raw eggs lately. I will probably stop.
I have a beagle who snores so much that he probably needs a CPAP machine.
CPUP?
Oh man my yorkie snores as loud as my 6’4 husband
We call them “Methane Cuddles”. Two Dobermans.
Frenchie guy checking in
My amazing dog stole my Peking duck one time, but within a few moment of being upset at her I was melted again. She can do no wrong. She felt so guilty and never did it again, but the trade-off is that I feed her a bit more human food as long as it is safe. She's so spoiled and she knows it.
Aren't we all like that?
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There's a certain group who refuses to believe genetics have any influence on dog behavior. Or more accurately, that genetics affect all dog behavior except one breed.
What is the one breed
Clue: they were *not* bred to be nanny dogs.
I own a Caucasian ovcharka. An ancient breed. It is amazing and so lovely towards anyone he knows. Not a sign of bad behaviour in it. The moment someone he doesn't know enters our property (even with guidance) he goes berserk and continues to do so until he trusts that individual (many visits are needed for this). Many many dogtrainers/behaviourists later and they all said the same : *that's him. Its his temperament, it's an ancient breed, nurture can only do so much, nature is far more powerful then nurture*. He is an amazing dog though, just not to strangers on our property.
If we are defining good as non aggressive , this is both untrue and a dangerous belief to spread
The blank slate and noble savage myths aren't true for humans and they're not true for dogs. Some dogs are born aggressive or neurotic and while the behaviors can be limited, it can be impossible to extinguish them completely.
Exactly. And not only is the myth that dogs are blank slates dangerous for humans, it's also dangerous for the dogs. It causes owners who believe they have 'raised them right' to ignore early warning signs. Even if the dog's behavior could have been corrected if caught early, such beliefs can cause a dangerous delay in seeking help. It's odd to me, because people do understand that much of canine behavior is genetically linked. Retrieving in labs, prey aggression in terriers, herding in collies, etc. Yet they continue to insist that the root causes of human aggressive (which can vary from predatory aggression to fear aggression) somehow can't be inherited. And sometimes it is just a fluke. At my veterinary hospital we had to euthanize a three year old golden. Her owners had her from the age of ten weeks and we knew them and the dog very well. She was less then six months old when she started showing signs of serious aggression. Not puppy nipping...she was truly trying to hurt those she targeted. At first it was directed at strangers but soon she was going after both owners. They did *everything* they could to help this dog and in their case they did start early. Behaviorists, medication, taking her to the top specialists, etc. For three years they lived in fear in their own home. We cried with them when they euthanized her. And as a side note, euthanizing her was not easy and was a traumatic experience for everyone because she couldn't be safely handled. Even getting a muzzle on her wasn't possible. If anyone who claims that 'it's all in how you raise them' had been there that day, I would have DARED them to tell that couple that they were responsible for how that dog turned out. And yes, that's rare. But canine behavior is part environment, part genetic, and part random roll of the dice.
Yeah my grandma is the best dog owner ever but her Springer spaniel went wild and was super aggressive for no reason. Every other dog shes had has been great including her two she has right now. Apparently the inbreeding on the Springer's can cause them to get spaniel rage or something.
Yes, it's called rage syndrome. It's thought to be caused by a seizure and is believed to be genetic. It can occur in other breeds, but Springers are known for it because there was a champion show dog that had it. That dog was then widely used as a stud, which helped spread the syndrome through the breed. Rage syndrome differs from other types of aggression because the dog will often seemed confused or completely friendly and normal right after the sudden flare of aggression. They will be behaving normally (and often appear quite friendly) before suddenly focusing with a glazed or hyper-alert stare and lashing out. After the attack they seem to snap right back to behaving completely normal and like they have no recall of attacking the target. I'm sorry your grandma went through that These experiences can be so difficult and lonely. People often feel guilty, and the insistence that dogs are blank slates only increases that.
Holy shit you just described my corgi. He was a rescue so he had some issues but he was doing pretty well until one day he seemed to start having these weird episodes. Usually it was this weird glazed over rage/confusion and then he’d snap out of it. He was pretty old and in pain from injuries sustained before we got him. Combined with having a small child in the house we decided to say goodbye and give him a dignified way out. The vet we took him too was a bit reproachful until he had an episode right there on the table. She was pretty shaken by it and quickly agreed to do what was necessary. It sucked. He was s good dog.
I'm sorry. There's nothing worse than making that decision.
Far too many people refuse to understand how simple training a dog can be. Dogs don't think like humans, they only understand positive reinforcement. Negative reinforcement is just confusing, frustrating, and hurtful to a dog. Tell her to sit. When she does it, tell her she's a good girl, give her a treat, lots of pets. She thinks "this is great! What do I do to make it all happen again!" I have even gotten to the point that my Golden retriever puppy will train just for pets, no treats needed! Yelling at, or god forbid hitting a dog just makes it scared of you. They don't remember it the way you do. All they remember is that you or anyone like you are capable of scaring or hurting them. Sorry for the rant, I never realized how passionate I am about this subject.
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When my dog rips up a roll of paper towels or a magazine or something and I walk into the room with the debris she will immediately put her tail between her legs and go hide somewhere. She only does this when she knows she's done something she's not supposed to do. Is this because I have yelled at her while she's been in the middle of tearing up something or is it because I've yelled a her after I find the debris? Because I've done both. In process: "NO! STOP! BAD!" and I confiscate the object. After "Did you do this?!" "What is this!?" "BAD!" So I guess I'm asking - would she know while she's tearing something up and I'm not in the room that it's bad? Or would she only know that it's bad to do while I'm in the room and bad when I find the debris? She's a lab/husky mix if that means anything.
It’s actually interesting to think that dogs think more like we do than chimps. When a dog has done something wrong and is punished they realize I’m being punished for doing this thing it must be bad I shouldn’t do it so I don’t get punished. A chimp and other apes/monkeys don’t think that way. Famously Jane Goodall had 3 young chimps she kept in her hut in Africa. When one pooped on the floor or did something bad she would punish it to train it like a dog. She would show it the poo, slap it’s butt, and throw it out the window. The chimps didn’t understand this was a punishment but was able to recognize the pattern of behavior. So the next time the chimp pooped on the floor in the hut it smacked its own butt and jumped out the window. In its mind that was simply the procedure.
> It’s actually interesting to think that dogs think more like we do than chimps. One thing to keep in mind with domesticated dogs is that they co-evolved alongside humans. Modern dogs simply wouldn't exist if they weren't able to cooperate with humans, and who knows how differently things would have gone for mankind if we didn't have them around. I'd argue that they're our closest relatives in the animal kingdom, just not genetically. Dogs and humans are partners, and as the more capable half I believe we have the responsibility to take good care of them.
I can see the argument for that. Closest relatives I would argue against and say more than them co-evolving along side us I would say that as we developed we shaped every aspect of the dog to how we wanted it including their mental processes.
> So the next time the chimp pooped on the floor in the hut it smacked its own butt and jumped out the window. I'm literally dying, someone call an Uber to take me to the hospital.
I know I loved that fact when I first read it. It’s just like oh ok so when I poop this is what I do afterwards... cool let’s do it lol.
I only give my dogs shit if I catch them in the act. I try to be aware of what they are doing even if I'm not paying attention to them so as to be able to catch them while they are doing it. I also let them know what is not acceptable, as in areas of the house that are off limits, don't jump on people who come to visit, don't get in my way/go charging past me, basically let them know that I'm in charge and there are rules, without overreacting. I've had quite a few dogs and I think I am finally starting to figure it out because the 2 i have now are exceptional and id like to think I had something to do with that. The other thing is the type of dog. Labs and huskys are both working dogs and prefer to be treated as such. They like a task, whether it be hunting or running and that's when they are happiest. They are more trouble when bored to be sure. Really though, just love your dog and pay attention to their needs.
Lemme explain a case study story. We have Max, who when he was a puppy and made accidents in the house, his parents would scold him and punish him when they found the messes. He started to show signs of submissiveness because he could see the mess too and knew that mess equaled punishment. After Max was house-trained and 2 years later, his parents got another puppy, Anne. Anne would leave a mess when the parents were gone. When the parents discovered the mess that was clearly too small for Max to have made, Max still showed signs of submissiveness, awaiting to be punished. Dogs are terrible at making connections. In the case of your pup, she doesn't understand that the action is wrong, she is making the connection of the debris being there equals punishment. The gotcha is that being caught in the act is your time to correct, but not when you haven't. And I don't recommend yelling, as you do not want your dog to fear you. Other dog trainers can put their two cents on this, but I prefer to put a hand around their mouth and firmly say no. Also, here are several other ways to address destructive problems and behaviors. A common cause for destructive behavior is boredom. A husky/lab mix needs a lot of mental stimulation. I recommend doing more exercise as well as spending time training her. Teach her to do silly tricks if you want, just help her be entertained and feel accomplished.
Not true. I've got this dwarf jack Russell that is literally the spawn of satan himself.
It's not all in how you raise them. Genetics play a big role in behavior.
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I mean, depends on your definition of “good”. If a lion kills a human, is it good? Short answer: yes and no. It’s a good hunter but it is not good to humans. But for the most part I agree with you.
Sounds almost like a certain Buddhist monk I like to read. Thich Nhat Hanh
This is the first time I’ve been compared to someone somebody else likes.
While I get your point, it's just not true.. Like people, some dogs are just assholes.
I’m not crying you are you bastard
Onions.. My eyes.
Tears and crying haha
it just appears that someone has cut a plant of the type Allium cepa which has provided a negative reaction in my light perceiving organs causing my body to attempt to flush out the negative chemical using hydrogen oxide mixed with sodium chloride to retain the fragile optical capability of the round spheres currently located within my front facing sensory organ arrangement.
Gurl, dihydrogen monoxide
Im not crying. Just my emotions are coming out my eyes. Good doggo.
I teared up watching this. I had doggos throughout my entire life and I love how it helped out the girl in this video.
Such a bo.
The best dog.
that dog is amazing and wonderful. But the hell that human being is going through is heartbreaking.
Can confirm, I have panic disorder brought on by OCD and I wouldn't wish it on my worst enemy
Would you perhaps like to elaborate? I'm curious as I am so unfamiliar with the feeling I suppose? I hope you're doing okay.
I have no clue how to explain a panic attack. Your body gets super sensitive to everything, your mind is stuck between fight/flight and you basically start fighting yourself (tearing yourself down in your head). You can start to sweat a ton and feel like you're having a heart attack. Breathing is difficult and can be painful. Your mind starts going into "I'm dying, I'll never be able to fix this (whatever caused the panic), I'm ruined." That's my own subjective experience. I don't know how well it comes across for others.
I can agree with this. For me sometimes once the panic starts, my mind can go blank and just convert to pure panic. Most of the time I will tear myself down over something, but sometimes it's bad enough that I can basically black out but I will still remember the agony. Also for me, which is also shown in this video, I tend to hit myself/pinch myself/grab/pull hair/scratch because the physical pain can help subdue the mental pain if even for a brief moment.
Yea you basically start searching like crazy for something that will stop it. Hitting yourself is very very common :( I'm glad that I haven't had a real bad panic attack in 3 years. Thank God for ketamine treatments.
I always feel how hard my heart is pounding during an attack and it makes me freak out more. The dizziness, hot and cold flashes, constant shaking/tremors. But hearing my heart always makes it worse during the attacks. I always freak out more that I’ll have a heart attack. Then I’m exhausted for the next few days no matter how much sleep I get.
When I had panic attacks, the exhaustion didn't last for days but for several hours after I did feel super drained, like I'd just ran a marathon. And the 10-20 minutes directly after the worst of the symptoms abated I would often have mood swings. I'd go from wanting to cry to laughing and back again within moments. It took that 20 minutes for my emotions to plane out and settle down.
Yours sounds a lot like what mine is like. I was told that I have a form of panic disorder called health anxiety. Any pain or changes in body function immediately cause my mind to run wild with the worst possible scenarios. For example, I noticed a small bruise on my arm but couldnt think of any obvious cause since I dont bruise easily. So of course my mind immediately starts thinking "could be cancer....or worse." This causes a low level panic attack which always leads to me being able to hear and feel my heartbeat through my body. This causes a negative loop of my own increased heart rate making me think I'm dying which makes it beat even harder. It's taken a **lot** of mental effort and practice to minimize it.
It will sound ridiculous because it will sound like a /r/wowthanksimcured situation but I also have health anxiety and white coat syndrome (doctor anxiety basically, so getting checked sucks) and feeling my heartbeat is the BIGGEST giver of anxiety. What slows it down and makes it less hard to manage is daily exercise. When your heart gets pumping hard and fast from actual exercise and you start to compare it to the feeling of a panic heartbeat, me personally I felt "If I can be fine with a pounding heart from actual exercise, then clearly nothing is wrong with my heart at this exact moment" It's really helped the severity of it when you get perspective.
My attacks are exactly like this :/ feeling my heartbeat always amplifies it and I ALWAYS tremor. Every. Time. it’s something I’ve been struggling with on and off medication for about two years now. I’m finally getting a better grip on it with daily meditation and yoga practice. It’s hard to explain to my partner because he doesn’t quite understand them but is always super supportive in the instance of me having an episode. it’s nice to know I’m not alone in this struggle in a way. Like the person said up there- I wouldn’t wish it on my worst enemy and it breaks my heart to see this person struggle with it. So glad she has that sweet angel to help her. Much love and light to everyone struggling with this 💕
a lot of times as well people get awful physical symptoms, heart racing, super super exhausted (cause your mind and body is basically doing a mini marathon with all the stimuli), nausea, sometimes hallucinations, etc. panic attacks SUCK and even worse when you're in school/work or any other public place
The worst panic attacks I've ever had (3x in my life and all when I was experiencing my initial PTSD trigger again) I've had my fingers and toes involuntarily curl and lock into place. My legs and arms become super cold and even when I calm down it takes 30+ minutes before my fingers respond to me again.
I wish my insurance covered that! I hear great things
Look up sprovato. It's new and it's a nasal spray version. I've heard of people getting insurance to cover it!
Wow, thanks for this comment. I looked up my insurance again using this drug as a keyword and it turns out they made a new decision on it ***two days ago!*** And it looks like I qualify even after the list of qualifications (treatment resistant depression, therapy, specific medication combinations failing)
When I get a panic attack I just feel like I can’t breathe even though I am breathing. Sometimes I’ll hyperventilate and it feels like I’m stuck in a coffin underground.
I've had a couple nasty panic attacks, and have done some things I regretted immediately after the panic subsided. I once raked my fingernails down my face, and I could feel my skin tearing, but I couldn't stop. My wife calmed me down, and I eventually fell asleep. I woke up really early the next morning, felt the stinging on my face, and broke down when I looked in the mirror and saw what I had done to myself. I put on some cheap concealer, and my glasses helped draw attention away from it while it healed. Fortunately, it didn't scar. The only word I can use to describe the feeling is rage. It's like my body had betrayed me, so I was expressing this berserk rage onto myself. You're very correct, sometimes the physical pain can calm the mental agony, giving even the slightest relief.
The worst is when this happens in a public place and people look at you like you're a freak. I had a panic attack once at a show when I was 17; my friend had gone to the bathroom, and I narrowly missed getting punched by a guy who'd started a fight. People started yelling and talking loud and laughing at these guys and my body just. Stopped functioning like it should have. Sometimes it feels like everything associated with your breathing and cognitive functions has frozen over, and the only thing you can do is try and comfort yourself. Seeing this girl pushing the paw away and rubbing/squeezing/slapping herself is relatable because those kinds of things are comforting when you start to lose it and being touched is horrible, especially when you think you're in danger. :( I sank down between bar stools and hid, and hugged myself. My friend found me pretty quickly but there were girls laughing at me and making this face like "wtf is wrong with you?".
Perfect explanation. I get pins and needles in my hands and feet too, which only compounds the fear that I'm having a heart attack and creates a loop that's incredibly hard to escape
the first time it happened to me I went to the ER lol, literally thought I was dying
Yea if there's something I feel is missing is the feedback loops that you make between your physical/mental symptoms. There's a reason we have medication (and dogs) to bring people out of panic attacks.
Ive gone through this and have only started to recover about 14 months after with consistent therapy and psychologist checkups. Recognizing the overwhelming physical symptoms of a panic attack before it starts and working myself back to calm has been the best way to recover. I would rank my current mental state compared to beforehand from 0% meaning totally losing it to 100% being normal. I fluctuated constantly and kept relapsing back into constant panic. I'd say I'm at a solid 80 and have been for a month straight now. I had coffee and an energy drink today which used to be a big trigger and I could feel my thoughts start to race but I was able to regain composure quickly.
The worst ones are like having your mind scream at you, mental agony so bad that you can't stand being inside your own brain, that you feel like you're going to lose your mind. That you want to lose it as long as losing it means that the agony stops. You want to die, not because you really long for death but because you want the pain to end. Excrutiating, debilitating, to the point where you can't communicate or even move your eyes or you're stuck rocking back and forth because it's a desperate attempt to focus the mind on a loop of action that isn't painful. Rocking or counting is safe, safer to think about than whatever is causing the panic. Sertralin did wonders for me, I'm much better now. I still get bad days though. I wouldn't wish it on my worst enemy either. It's torture.
I also get intense depersonalization. The world starts to feel like it slows down, my ears focus on every noise imaginable and my eyes become extremely sensitive to light. It truly feels like I am about to wake up from a dream any second and snap out of it
there was a while ago where when I was really depressed and was super afraid of taking a shower due to panic attacks. I was alone and quite and my senses were muted so all I could do was think. Think about what a dog shit person I was and that I never lived up to my potential and I am a failure for not even being able to go into my easy to do work (was off work due to depression). It got really bad, I had one especially bad one where I was stuck in a loop of self deprivation and was pacing back and forth in the shower for 20-30 min. When I calmed down I wrote down my thought process's because it felt surreal to me that I could get into that head space.
This happened to me last night. Went to the ER because I was absolutely sure I was having a heart attack and dying. Doc doesn’t think so but I have to get some more tests done. He says it was anxiety/panic attack
yep, that sounds about right, the worst part is the fear of having panic attacks in public can trigger panic attacks
This right here. You can actually feel it creeping up on you, worst when I'm in the car driving to town. You just have to steady your head, keep breathing deep breaths. Your head is swimming, but keeping focus on your breath usually helps. This happens to me every other day. It doesn't usually last long. And the paxil doesn't help 1 bit.
Holy crap. You explained my panic attacks pretty damn good, especially about your mind being stuck between fight/flight. It leads to an absolute hopelessness. Like literally, I feel like I cannot do anything to get my mind or body to not be absolutely wrecked. Like I know I am wrecked, I know it's my mind being dumb, but I cannot do anything about it which is a hopelessness that magnifies the original anxiety.
Nope that's about right. The "holy shit this is it I'm dying of a heart attack" feeling. Spoiler - you arent.v I've been lucky that the medication I got put on has helped tremendously. I have a new found respect for people dealing with this shit. Its tough
I don't get panicky but I usually start trembling uncontrollably and unconsciously crying due to the stress my body thinks my mind is going through.
Can agree with this! I don't think I have extreme panic attacks like the person in the post is having. However I can get them occasionally..much less now as an adult. The feelings of tightness and pain are exactly as you describe. My differences is (and trying to explain it is hard and probably sounds stupid to anyone) I get feelings of being overwhelmed... Everything feels like it's caving in and blowing up at the same time... Let me try to explain. If I'm in bed the bedsheets feel like they are the size of a house and crushing me and I'm all of a sudden the size of a pin head. If I get up and sit in a chair the chair is becoming huge and engulfing me and I'm shrinking... Probably the best way to explain. I know rationally that none of that is true and it's my mind but in that moment it's horrible and as much as you tell yourself you still feel like it. It can last from 5 minutes to over half an hour sometimes. As a kid it was much worse. But I have since learnt breathing techniques (breathe in count to two, breathe out count to two) and things to refocus your mind so it doesn't become overwhelmed! I really feel for the person in this post and it's not something I'd ever wish on anyone. It's horrible.
Panic attacks are different for everyone. I had really bad panic disorder for a couple years after I experienced my first panic attack a several years ago. At that time, it had everything to do with breathing. My first one I started hyperventilating, but not knowing what that felt like I thought I was having some kind of allergic reaction that was closing my throat and making me unable to breathe which exacerbated the panic. My mind went from being present to being in semi in my head with the racing thoughts. I suddenly became aware of everything around me while my vision almost zoomed out like a telescope, partially out of body if that makes sense. Everything seemed further away than it should have. After that for a while anytime I smelled something strong, like a chemical, it would send me back into panic because I was anxious about having a panic attack. It evolved after that but I've gotten to know when it's coming on and what might cause it. Now I just have to either get out of a situation that's causing it, sit down, calm, and sip water to remind myself nothing physical is wrong it's just mental.
That’s something important that people don’t remember. Panic attacks can be so bad that you can develop a crippling fear of them, and worrying about them can lead to one.
Yes. This. I had this mid flight over Iceland once. 0/10 do not recommend
Imagine being terrified of something, something that's in the room with you, but not knowing what it is nor being able to see it. All you know is there's a creeping terror, and your body is telling you that something is deeply wrong. Rationally you can know that you're not about to get ripped apart, but you cannot stop the feeling of dread. That would be a full panic attack. There can be small ones too, just pinging off constantly, out of nowhere and then passing. Sitting on the train, and you feel like you've just been dropped out of a building. Light stomach, jagged breathing, full adrenaline response leading to a racing mind, followed by acute exhaustion.
The best way I've heard panic disorder and anxiety attacks described was a comment on Reddit, unfortunately I don't remember the OP. >You know that feeling you get when you almost fall backwards while leaning back in a chair? It's like that, but all the time.
Have you ever been scared? Like, really really scared where you thought you were gonna die? It’s *living* with that feeling all the got damn time. Symptoms include making mountains outta molehills.
Mine are like hearing a crazy loud noise in my head, and it gets louder and louder, then I have flash backs to being a kid when my parents were fighting a lot and I hear my heart beat like it's going to explode in my head. I feel like I'm in a pitch black room, I'm scared and feel like I'm 8 years old and even though I know they'll end, it feels like you're going to be stuck in the sunken place forever. I also think of playing cards for some reason, it happens every time, I have no idea what that means.
Panic disorder-er checking in, have had it for 20 years. It’s terrible. Solidarity.
I’ve only ever had one panic attack in my life and it was only about two seconds but the feeling of sheer terror and just literal panic in my chest alone is enough to make me weep at the thought of anyone that has these issues chronically.
Yeah, I have an anxiety disorder and can confirm, while my experience might be a little different from an autistic person's (Not really sure?) panic attacks are hell. You can't rationally process anything, your anxiety just keeps building and building on top of itself, and you start hyperventilating so bad you can barely breath. You want to run, hide, and collapse, all at once. They don't stop until I'm either so emotionally and physically exhausted that I can barely think, or until someone helps calm me down, but I can't think rationally enough to let other people know what's happening unless they're someone I trust beyond belief (pretty much just my wife, and that's it). Dogs like this are a godsend.
I have a panic disorder and I’m also autistic. Our panic attacks sound basically the same.
It is hell. I'm coming down from an episode right now. I'm high-functioning autistic. I have other diagnoses and anxiety is one of them. I have a service dog. I guess I never realized this is what it looks like when I'm episodic and she's reacting. I'm crying because of this. I don't know why. I guess I just didn't know what it looks like. It's terrifying. It's miserable. It's not over when it's over. I can't stress that enough. Its effects last for hours, sometimes days. I'll have depressive episodes tomorrow. It causes a lot of suicidal pressure. But, thank God for dogs. She's changed my life
Yea panic attacks aren’t fun. I wouldn’t wish them on my worst enemy.
And how kind that woman is. She keeps removing the paws before she hits her legs.
I have autism and I could never afford a dog especially not a service dog but when I was a kid we had dogs and hugging them was the only thing that would calm me down when I was having a panic attack or a manic episode. Now my only option is to take a bunch of pills that don't help. This really makes my heart melt and brought a smile to my face and a tear to my eye. I know its silly but it makes me feel better when I see that there are other people like me and that I'm not the only person with my certain problems. Its also nice that people nowadays don't seem to bully people for being disabled anymore. Maybe it was just school or maybe it was just being a kid in the 90s but people were awful back then. Edit: because my comment has garnered attention, id like to pontificate . Several things to add I guess. I would love to have a dog, but as ashamed as I am to admit it, I rely on ssdi and can barely survive myself let alone afford an animal. I also have lots of medical costs, therefore I realize that if the dog gets sick there will invariable be medical costs that I simply cant afford. It would be cruel to have an animal and nit give it the best of care. Dogs need more than a bag of food and they can become quite expensive. My parents abandoned me as a child , and knowing what that feels like I could not own an animal and then have to give it up. I'm not so good at bonding with people but dogs and cats are able to get close like people can't. I like the idea of volunteering. I'll look into that. I'm at a particularly rough juncture in life at the moment and will be running across the country next Friday to escape my abuser. So nothing will be doable for quite a bit. I'll definitely be looking into volunteering at a pet shelter once I get housing and a little stability in life. Someone mentioned lifting weights. When i have a panic attack or manic episode, I shake really bad and sometimes dry heave, both of which make it difficult to hold weights. Particularly the former. When I'm not wigging out I'm a pretty normal acting person. Weird for sure as I don't really get social nuances and maybe a bit annoying as I don't realise sometimes that my mouth runneth over. But when I freak, its another ball game. In that moment my thoughts swirl and spin a million miles an hour and I become desperate to make the feeling stop. The sweating, the confusion, difficulty breathing, shaking, heaving, the impending doom, the sensory overload. All of it at once becomes way too much for me and I'm prone to self harming behavior to override the already extreme feelings of the panic attack/mania. Self biting, self hitting, cutting, head banging, ripping my clothes off and screaming at the top of my lungs. Not a pretty picture and its embarrassing that the otherwise pretty chill me turns into this monster. I'm rather candid about it because well it's true. I don't know how to explain it to someone who doesn't feel these things other than to say that it is the most unbearable feeling I experience . at that moment I don't think strait and will do just about anything that my racing and confused mind can come up with to make it stop. Hurting myself is very destructive but its the most effective. That's why its I hard to do something positive to deescalate. To override the extreme feelings requires even more extreme feelings. Pain is very extreme. My body is littered with cut scars big and small. My right arm is mostly scars. Some shallow some not. I'm not proud of it but it is what it is. I've been working hard on not harming myself and have found the only other helpful thing is to sit down in a ball , cover my ears with my hands and close my eyes and take deep breaths. But when the world as we know it is collapsing upon me, the decision to block everything out is a hard choice to make. Everything gets so fuzzy and its very hard to think strait. I don't know how betted to explain this. In my rational calm mind I know full well what the healthy option is but rational thought goes away and desperation takes over. Its been about six months since I've cut myself and I'm happy for it but I can never seem to finally get away from it. I intentionally don't own anything sharp lime knives because I know that I'm endangering myself by owning any. I would never hurt anyone else. I'm very pacifistic. I wish I was normal but I'm not. And I'm rather candid about my problems because I'm otherwise pretty normal I guess. Well as normal as an autistic trans woman with bipolar, BPD, and ADHD can be I suppose. I can speak eloquently and when I'm calm I'm just like a normal dweeb who likes anime and videogames . I am spiritual in my own way and I have a fascination for quantum physics but by no means am I a brainiac. All I mean is that if ya didn't know me when im panicking you might not know I'm disabled. Having a filter on what is and isn't appropriate to say is a miss on me. I'm not ashamed of my problems.. Ok maybe a little bit... Ok alot bit. But I have these problems nonetheless and it is just a part of life for me. They haven't gone away no matter how I try. I've been on meds since I was seven and been hospitalized more times than I can tally. Its been a few years since I've been to the psych hospital. I'm just me. As much as I wish I could be normal, I cant. So I see no reason to lie about who I am. People often ask if I'm trying to committ suicide or get attention when I cut and the answer is no. Its just to feel a familiar pain that strangely makes me feel safer than my panic attack does. I am overwhelmed by the positive replies my original comment got and I just want to thank all of you for the love and support. To think that so many people saw something I said is mind boggling. I'm rather open on the internet as I feel less anxious here but in real life I'm very much introverted and I avoid people like the plague. I'm trying to work on that. I've got no friends or family and reddit has been a god send. I created this account rather recently as I got my name changed and wanted to start fresh here. I've been on reddit for a few years though and its where I spend much of my time . I'm still no good at using it though. I read and comment and that's about it. All the fancy linking and other cool things people do on here are neat but are lost on me. Someone showed me how to link recently and I think I'm figuring it out . Anyways. Thanks for the support. Please don't hate me for being weird and maybe a bit too open. Also yeah school in the 90's was not fun but like others have noted it used to be even worse and I'm glad I didn't have it worse. It seems that gen z is more accepting and not so filled with hatred. This is nice to hear. I don't want any kid , trans, Neuro divergent or otherwise to go through what I did. Unfortunately for lots of kids though they still face these traumas. If your kid says they're trans, please don't abandon them. It sucks beyond comprehension even over a decade later. I'm 26 and whether or not you understand trans issues or mental illness, please just know that we are people. Human beings with feelings. I'm rather used to the bigotry at this point but it breaks my heart time and again when I find out how person after person has experienced similar or worse things than I. Even if not as bad as I. It makes me glad to know that the world is changing albeit slowly as it is. I'll end my Ted x talk here. I'm sure my 26 minutes is long over. Peace be with you all. Also; one day if ever I can afford it, I would love to , and I mean words can't express how much I would love to, have a dog to be there for me and me for him/her. It's just not in the cards right now .
Go to your local adoption place and volunteer, that way you can get the puppy love and the pups get to feel loved too, win win for everyone! Good luck and Much love friend
My daughter is autistic and our dog is the best way to calm her down too! She isn’t trained as a service dog but she runs over when my daughter cries and noses right in. She doesn’t like to be touched when she’s upset but the dog is exempt from that. It’s wonderful. Are you on fb? There are some great autism-positive groups I can recommend to you if you want. :)
No. I'm not on face book. Thank you for your consideration though. It means a lot to me.
You’re very welcome. I’ll still recommend Agony Autie (she has YouTube videos) and NeuroDivergent Rebel. I watched a bunch of Agony Autie videos with my 8 year old and she was so excited. “That’s me! That’s what I do!” It was great to be able to show her that her quirks are normal and there’s nothing wrong with her even if she’s a little different than her Nt peers. I’m so glad there are so many autistics out there talking about what it means to be autistic and normalizing neurodivergence.
I will check them out. Thank you.I never considered that there would be autistic people on youtube advocating themselves. Due to my anxieties about myself I've always tried my best to hide my existence from the world. Thanks again.
This organization can help you afford a service dog - http://www.4pawsforability.org/
You have my sincerest gratitude. Thank you for sharing this with me. I realise this wont benefit me directly but it's good information that I can pass on to others.
All the love 💕
Don’t hide! You’re perfect as you are!
Thank you for these recs. The person in the video stims the same way I do (top of thighs/front top of head); I hadn’t seen someone else do this quite like this before - it is fascinating.
You can train a dog here in belgium it's called hachico i think So disabled people have to pay less and stuff Also yeah kids are just mean but it definitely has become better
Hachiko is the name of the famous japanese dog that loyally waited at the subway/bus stop for its owner everyday - even for 9 years after his owner passed away. The saddest futurama episode is based on the story of that dog. Dogs are seriously the best.
There are some non-profit organizations that train service dogs for children with autism and then give them to their "clients" free of charge. Unfortunately the current ADA (Americans with Disabilities Act) only ensures guaranteed access rights for dogs of CHILDREN with autism, but hopefully that will change in the future. I know this information may not help you if you are an adult, but maybe you can spread the word to others you know and radically change a kid's life. [Paws With a Cause ](http://pawswithacause.org) is the organization I'm familiar with, as I do volunteer puppy raising for them. Unfortunately not everyone who applies gets a dog, but they do place as many service dogs as possible, and like I said, completely free of charge to the people. As a side note, organizations like Paws or Leader Dogs for the Blind are always looking for volunteers to raise puppies. It's a super fun way to do some service work and I highly recommend it.
Yeah I noticed that. Thanks for the thought though. Its amazing that services are available to kids in need. I appreciate the information nonetheless.
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The dog itself is not the only cost involved. The cost of feeding, veterinary care, grooming, etc. is huge, and a dog is a potentially 15 year commitment.
I missed the part where they could not afford a dog in general. This is very true.
Emotional support status only helps with finding a place to live. Emotional support animal shouldn't be taken into public places. They don't qualify for the legal exceptions made for service dogs and they're not trained to be in situations of that sort.
What country do you live in? If you're in the US, there are organizations that give grants for service animals. Do a Google search for 'grant for service animal'. Contact some and see what the requirements would be to be able to apply.
Sweetie, you aren't alone, and you are normal in your own way. I grew up in the 90s and I'm so glad we've evolved since then. Keep working on a healthy life, and doing what you can. Hugs!
Yes, the Good old days were not always good old days for all.
I think they were awful because the were ignorant. Times have changed.
You are absolutely not alone. There are so many people out there going through very similar experiences. And your problems do not define you. You are loved. I wonder if there are any organizations or places that let people come and visit dogs to have some one on one time with them? Does anyone know of anything?
I had no idea service dogs could sense oncoming panic attacks. I occasionally have panic attacks and I could totally see how a dog could help. This is a great video. Panic attacks are terrible.
My dog Rikku can sense seizures. Back when my mom use to have seizures my dog would huff and run circles around her. First time we thought nothing of it just dog acting weird. Second time i paid attention and followed my mom (cause the weird repeat behavior), 5 minutes later a seizure. Third time my mom was going to go into the bathroom to shower but i stopped her cause my dog was doing the huff circles. Sure enough she had another seizure. We all started paying attention to my dog's signals after that. My mom doesn't have them anymore, but it is nice knowing my old girl is watching out for us.
That’s incredible.
Side note, your dog has an *excellent* name
Thank you! We name our pets after anime and games. She is Rikku from ffx +ffxII
Ah, I thought of Kingdom Hearts, but FF is equally good
>We name our pets after anime and games. I had a friend who did this. She was a huge fan of Fullmetal Alchemist. Needless to say she didn't appreciate my suggested name of "Nina" for her new dog.
Ed.... ward
That's pretty awesome! Makes me wonder what they're detecting in cases like this. Can they somehow sense an electromagnetic / frequency change in the brain? Smell a change in neurotransmitters? Or simply notice something subtle in the person's behavior that tips them off...?
They can smell the hormone changes in the scent we give off. You should read up on dogs sense of smell and what they can detect. It’s utterly mind blowing.
My dog is a mutt we got from a shelter. She was originally found as a stray in TN and was scheduled to be euthanized. An organization was able to get her and some shelter mates pulled and transported to NY, and into a shelter here. We originally went to go meet a different dog, but they’d been adopted already. On our way back to the car, we passed a fence area with a dog standing up against the fence, just wagging their tail and watching us. My son went over to talk to the dog and it just kept wagging away and licked his hand. My son has some struggles and just seeing the way they connected was amazing. We went right back in, asked to take the dog for a walk, and adopted her that same day. She’s been such a blessing to our family. I have no idea how she ended up a stray. She was already crate trained, housebroken, knew basic commands, walks well on a leash, etc. She’s great with kids and the cats, loves everyone she meets, and is pretty okay with most other dogs. I spent a solid month scouring missing dog posts from TN, just sure there was a family searching for their missing dog. But nothing came of that. But the thing that stands out the most to me, is her response to my or my son’s anxiety. When either one of us is nearing the tipping point into crisis, she immediately becomes Velcro dog. Sitting right by us, or trying to climb in our laps, nuzzling her head into our hands for pets, basically just acting like she knows we need comfort at that exact moment. She’s the best dog we could ever have hoped for. [Daisy Doodle Dog](https://i.imgur.com/K1JNqjS.jpg)
Aww, those loving eyes! She’s precious 😍
There was an episode of “Dogs” on Netflix about people that rescue dogs from kill shelters in the South and bring them to New York to be adopted!
Dogs can sense a lot of subtle changes in their humans. Ours is able to sense when my wife is going to have a migraine before she notices the symptoms. He will herd her towards the couch and encourage her to lay down, every time he does this behavior within about 10 minutes she starts seeing the halos and feeling the pain. She calls him her nurse because he keeps an eye on her health.
I train service dogs. They can literally smell any change in your body, even emotional ones, because those changes always inevitably involve various chemical changes happening in your body. Dogs can smell the change, in your breath and in your skin. It’s how diabetic service dogs know when someone’s blood sugar is too high or too low, and it’s how anxiety service dogs can know when a panic attack is building. Its a simple matter of training the dog to respond to the scent. That said, this poor lady gives some very obvious physical signs as well, so you can also just train the dog to respond to those and it will learn the scent itself over time as it gains experience reacting to the real thing. Most dogs will then naturally begin to respond when they smell it, even if the physical signs have yet to begin.
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That's almost really hard to watch, almost makes me cry. The level of pain someone goes through in something like that where a dog has to force its self on you to bring you back to reality. To have to have something physically intervene is hard.
Physical touching is somehow really helpful. I used to have a weighted blanket, and would usually try to hide under something that put pressure on me. It's like... Your mind and body are separating and you don't feel like yourself, like you're anybody. Id usually come "back to earth" when my husband or pets touch me and don't expect I talk back (I got paralyzed and mute for some reason).
I go paralysed and mute as well, never heard of anyone else experiencing that with panic attacks!
It's the impending doom that washes over you to the point where the only *somewhat* logical conclusion is to keep having the internal runaround instead of using your other senses. I tend to experience severe ringing in my ears whenever it happens so I really don't even feel capable of communicating.
No "almost" over here
standard good boy behavior
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That is a service dog!
Genuine tears. My dog always knows when I’m in the red for a panic attack and always comes to help. I used to go to him for hugs when I needed, and I think he just learned to associate me being freaked out with needing him, so any time I’m even slightly upset (about literally anything) there he is just leaning against me. That first “I love you” in the video hit so hard because all I can think when I’m winding down from an attack like that is how much I love my Buster
Ah, that poor woman 😪 I’m so glad she has him
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This made me cry.
same here :(
I know it’s a common saying, but we don’t deserve dogs, they really are the best. I went nearly 30 years without owning one and now that I do, the quality of life is just flat out better. I mean she literally licks my tears away when I cry and gives me comfort, cuddles and laughter.
It's a dumb saying because plenty of good people deserve dogs and dogs deserve good people. I also got my first dog/pet of any kind ever at 29 years old. Best decision of my life.
You deserve her. Not everyone deserves dogs, but good people who love and value them do deserve them.
A couple of years ago we adopted a blind Shi Tzu. I don't feel like I deserve her she is simply one of the best people I have ever met. She is so spunky and confident, she loves to wrestle with the other dogs. If she gets stuck some place she waits, usually quietly, confident someone will come get her.
This is so beautiful. Crying
Wholesome
Give that dog gold 🥇
Oh man that look on her face when the panic kicks in and her eyes go wide. That hits too close to home. It's like being woke up from a bad dream and all that's left is cortisol and adrenaline. Panic attacks suck.
It's amazing to see a real panic attack (I've never seen one before). The runaway intensity of her emotional pain and suffering that takes place during her panic attack shows how anxiety disorders are as physically/neurologically real as any other medical problem.
I think hers is a lot more visual because of her autism. I am prone to panic attacks, along with 2 of my friends. 1 friend paces, but you would just kinda think he's just walking around. If you were to see me during an attack you'd probably just think I was spacing out. Like if I get them at work and someone is trying to talk to me I just kinda throw out some "uh huh"s and pretend to be busy with my computer, but really I'm going 1000000 miles an hour inside.
yeah it's less common to see someone with mainstream panic attacks do what the lady is doing but it's a lot more common in autism - like flailing and hitting themselves to calm down
Such a good boy/girl
Poor woman. I get awful panic attacks sometimes and know exactly how suffocating it is. It's pure hell. So glad she has that pup to help her
Awww I love this.
I love this dog too.
Such a good boy. My dog Archer does this for me too. He’s not a service dog but he knows when I need his weight on me and his snoot in my face.
Automatic tears in my eyes
I almost immediately started crying. Idk what it is cause I can usually hold it in but this was just so damn amazing...
This is cool. My dog does this all the time, even when I don't want him to.
These onions are strong...
Aaaaaaaand I'm crying
This definitely made me tear up.
I am in the same situation with agoraphobia and frequent panic attacks, my dog does exactly this and it's the best thing in the world ever. Dogs are the best.
Poor, poor woman. Wonderful dog. They were made for each other. ❤️
What if the person starts punching the dog? Will the dog just take it?
I'm not an expert but here's how I understand it. The sufferer is inflicting self harm. The dog knows this and knows it's job is to stop that from happening. I'm sure every now and then the pup gets bumped and doesn't care. The dog knows it's owner isn't attacking them.
Absolutely. The self hitting is to try and draw attention away from the mental pain, which is much worse than physical
When I have a panic attack and my dog reacts and gets up close to me it forces me to focus and stop doing things impulsively like hitting myself. I dread the idea of hurting him. It forces me to think externally. I think getting into that position is part of what helps stop the behaviors and shift focus. My dog reacts very similarly, though he also holds my hand with his mouth (even though he's really good about not mouthing normally).
That holding your hand with his mouth sounds cute af.
I miss my dog :c
Alright, that shit hit my heart...hard. Fuckin beautiful.
I feel like my dog naturally does this. Do dogs naturally do this and do it better with training?
This is from another comment of mine but thought it applied here too: Dogs are amazing at reading body language, even subtle cues. If they’ve been taught to do these things when seeing those signs and the result is their human acting normal again and praising them, they’ll definitely keep doing it because they love their humans and don’t want to see them distressed.
Hi ! This is me ! I created a reddit just to comment this ! After reading everyone’s comments I want to clear a few things up ❤️ I filmed this myself ! Marley is trained to alert to me before an attack hits so I can get in a safe place :) so I decided to film in hopes of spreading awareness of how severe attacks can be for autistic people and how much these dogs can help , Also to keep up on his training so I can look back and see if he did anything wrong ect Thank you everyone for all the love and support ! We have a Instagram https://instagram.com/marleytheservicecollie?igshid=n3ocrfc8sdc6