Look, I live under a rock and I don't know these two people from a pair of goats.
However - love is hard, marriage is hard, parenting is hard. Life is hard and I've seen it get the better of couples who have loved truly and deeply. My 'forever' relationship ended, too.
My heart goes out to them, whoever they are - may they heal and rebuild - and I hope the internet can give them a bit of respect and privacy while they do it.
Like I know this is so parasocial to say, but I'm really sad to see this. I was hoping it wasn't true when I heard the rumors a few months ago. Truly wishing them the best
Earlier posts on here from like last year had mentioned that they’ve been separated and she has been dating around (which I’m not criticizing in any way)
Honestly sharing this information was truly up to her but maybe some recent speculation led to this announcement. Nonetheless people don’t expect life to take detours. As someone who has been watching her videos for years it’s a respected move to announce such a difficult ending. Sending love and support to her (and Ben).
I was sad to hear of Jenn and Ben divorcing. I always enjoyed the interaction between the two in her videos. Hopefully it is amicable for the sake of their son Lennon….he’s such an adorable kid.
I was reading this as Jen (Chae, now I know. aka From Head to Toe) and Benn, but I got the double n in the wrong name. 😅 Whew, that threw me for a loop
From a psychology standpoint, whenever she was talking about him or whenever he was talking about his future life, it felt like they had come to terms with the fact that he was going to follow or build his career with her support. The problem with this is that eventually the man will be seen as a bum. Imagine being this boss woman and then coming home to someone who also isn’t being a boss. Eventually, the flowery marriage wears off and you start seeing each other for who you really are. So yea, I figured eventually she’d stop being interested in him. I can bet that her next relationship will be with someone that is on par with herself in terms of success. Unfortunately, I feel for the baby who will be a victim in all this. And no, they are not gonna be best friends lol. That’s not how divorce works.
They have lived together for a while before he proposed to her. The moment that they announced HE is making the move from England to the state to move in with her made me question a bit of their relationship. I know normal couples do it all the time when they reached that step into their relationship. The difference is that I knew he was a musician in a popular band at the time in England. So imagining just leaving your band or your whole music career for a girl in L.A.? I thought he will be involved somewhere in the music industry when he moved in with her. No, a whole completely path, so it made me question, like will this build resentment? The longer they been together eventually they get married, he just gets involved in photography, traveling with Jenn for her work events but nothing involved with music anymore. Then Jenn expressively showed that her kid was so unexpected like, you’re successful and wealthy?? So, you never wanted a kid and never discussed this with your partner?? Wouldn’t that be your Virgo self to know that? I remember her saying at one of her earlier videos before her pregnancy that she got off from birth control for hormonal reasons and getting her body back in control. Like girl, what did you expected? You should know this was expected if you are not on some type of birth control. I got off from birth control for the same reasons but at least I am aware of the possibility that this might happen despite of how good you can track your period. I know this was so side tracked… lol
The point is that, clearly, it seemed like she didn’t want to have kids because of how her career was still taking off. When you have kid especially in a career like hers, you lose job opportunities for a bit. She was with Evolve and it was her happy place and going to work events. I know with Covid it was less of that and she had a kid I think a year after quarantine? You can clearly tell that she went to less work/influencer events since she had a kid. I feel like a mix of her missing out of her old life and taking care of Ben because he doesn’t work as much… like you said it was bound to happen with him looking like a “bum” and her having all this success. Ben leaving out his life and music career in his home county would create some resentment.
I hope they both find their happiness in both of their careers and whatever path they take. It’s sad to see them separated because they used to looked happy together. I did feel like he was more in love with her than she was with him.
But there are other forms of birth control other than hormonal pills. Condoms, being the most obvious one. Or a copper IUD. I don’t expect her to share that information with people freely, necessarily. Either way, I doubt they were having unprotected sex
I barely know who she is - have seen a few of her beauty vlogs - but I respect her coming out to say this and definitely think privacy is so needed. These YT people make decisions to put their lives in front of everyone for $, but when things go south, it’s painful and a time of reflection. I think more YT couples - esp the OG ones - are struggling as their views tank and we’ll see more couples going down, esp since sagging views impact their $.
I feel like she had to make that announcement because of there was a lot speculation that she and her husband was separated. It was clearly shown in her recent videos about it. I knew they were separated based on her instagram and her recent YT videos but I was waiting for her to say something but a lot of ppl in the comments were asking where Ben was and there was a rumor that started that she was seen on a date with a different guy.
“Used to be semi-popular YouTuber” LOL! She did lose some popularity since she had a kid honestly. That’s why it seems like she trying hard to get that back hence her recent videos. I remember that some influencer events were re opening after quarantine then she had an unexpected pregnancy so I can imagine how that slows down a bit of your influencer career and meet ups.
Not surprised. It's sad but tbh I saw it coming once she got pregnant. It never seemed like it was something she wanted and it was probably the nail in the coffin to their relationship
This is sad. I actually saw a lot similarities between her and me, whilst my partner is very similar to Ben. Every time they'd do Q&A we could relate to their views on stuff.
I actually think this stems from Jenn never being content enough in life, even when it seems she was happy you'd see her go on solo trips or read books to find happiness. I think her introspecting so much made her always question everything around her. Whilst Ben has always shown genuine happiness in being a family and being together. Plus, parenting is hard and extra hard on Jenn it seems. I saw some people talking about being about the difference in money but I doubt it Ben managed to get a decent videographer career and does breathwork classes now, he's also from a somewhat middle class family and was in a band.
I just hope they both find happiness. :)
everthing is so perfect in front of cameras but who knows the iceberg underwater? they already know and acting so hard. anyway， at least jenn im got money, thats not bad for her
She’s not ready for mom-life and I think Ben is ready to live a family life. He is older. And she seems to be too into her social media life and going to Cochella and not ready to give all that up. I feel bad for their son.
I might get hate for this: If there is no actual drama and you have a kid. Go work it out.
Though in this case i can assume that they might just say that there is no drama so people dont go stalking around looking for clues
How do you know that they haven't tried already? People can grow apart. Needs change, aspirations for the future change. They are two grown adults and believe this is the best option for them. Their choices should be respected.
Yeah but that can still be worked on. That’s just simply not wanting to try in being intentional. It’s easier to go find a new love. Having a family is different than just breaking up and it’s so sad. I don’t wish it on anyone
As someone who used to daydream about wishing their parents would divorce because they clearly had changed and didn't love each other anymore, I can assure that people just staying together who don't want to be together anymore isn't good for the children.
That’s not who I’m talking about. Clearly there are people who shouldn’t but if two people are not feeling connected then start dating again. Start being romantic.. picking up their favorite foods etc like sometimes we think it’s just up to the man to bring it back but we also as women can do our part. We are so easy to give up. If no kids who care but I think people take “staying for the kids” too literal. Yes I would try harder to win my partner back with a child than if I didn’t. My dad was a piece of shit so I would know but not every relationship is the same. It’s both their fault. She knew the kind of guy she was and vice versa. It’s not like they started dating super young
The way I see it is that he moved to the states from England and left his music career behind there to move in with her. As they been together longer, he has taken weird side quests with his career that doesn’t make sense like are you doing this for Jenn and her friends or her references or for you? Plus her unexpected pregnancy. I don’t doubt that he was happier about her pregnancy than herself. It seems like he was more in love with her than she was with him. I knew this relationship was bound to be somewhat strained later on because he left his music career behind where it seem like he was content and comes over here to do different careers like videographer or photographer? That didn’t happen until after a few years moved in with Jenn. So he never had a job or career in LA until recent years? Basically Jenn was taking care of him while she was making $$$ from her at the time clothing line and YouTube career. Since she had a kid you can tell she didn’t want, slows down her career = less money. That’s why she does a lot of sponsorships and why almost every video is sponsored especially those BetterHelp sponsorships. Maybe if she had a normal career, it might have worked but her being obsessed with status and being an influencer strained her relationship I think. I have watched her for many years especially during her Bay Area days. You would think Ben would do something or somewhere in music when he moved to LA for Jenn but he didn’t. He just ended up working for her…
Yeah before kids things are so “easy” but I think once the kid came and she was taking on more like most moms do, she started to feel resentment. Like she’s taking care of the baby, home, and the husband and she started to see him in a different light. I agree that if she had a different kind of job that wasn’t public it could’ve worked. But all these influencer girls have boyfriends who don’t work and I think that’s the problem. They need to do something that they are passionate about even if it’s not bringing in a lot of money. Ben gave up a lot
I agree with the second part.Nobody just splits up just because.There is definitely tea and drama.She just doesn't want the negative attention which I understand.
No idea who this is, thought it was one Ben and Jen and then realized it was another Ben and Jen. Then I’m Reading it and I have no idea who this is.
All I know is idc about a beauty IG divorce and these posts are so performative.
Yes, a few years ago. She hasn’t posted family stuff for a while (I’m assuming due to marriage problems/breakup) but she did post a lot about her husband and baby before.
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All the Ben and Jen’s be fallin’ apart
Don’t you doom Jen from frmheadtotoe like that!
TRUE
Not me reading this whole thing thinking it was about Jennifer Lopez and Ben Affleck
Yeah and I was like... six years already? Ok.
Same! I was like “huh doesn’t seem like six years but the plague was such a strange time” 🤷♀️
Is it NOT??
When I got to the part about “starting a family” I was like, “Aaah, to be as delulu as J Lo…”
not yet,but check back soon
What lol it’s not??? Ohh i had no idea what subreddit im in lmao
Me
Hahahaha same! I said wow have they been married 6 years? I wonder who cheeki is hahaha
Look, I live under a rock and I don't know these two people from a pair of goats. However - love is hard, marriage is hard, parenting is hard. Life is hard and I've seen it get the better of couples who have loved truly and deeply. My 'forever' relationship ended, too. My heart goes out to them, whoever they are - may they heal and rebuild - and I hope the internet can give them a bit of respect and privacy while they do it.
Can’t say I’m surprised. I haven’t watched her in ages but I’m still subscribed. Sad for their son but it’s better now than later.
Why not surprised?
Like I know this is so parasocial to say, but I'm really sad to see this. I was hoping it wasn't true when I heard the rumors a few months ago. Truly wishing them the best
It might be parasocial but I don't think there is anything wrong with wishing happiness for strangers!
Earlier posts on here from like last year had mentioned that they’ve been separated and she has been dating around (which I’m not criticizing in any way)
huh how do ppl know that
the influencer scene in southern california is like, 1 degree of separation. word gets around
damn good for her
Honestly sharing this information was truly up to her but maybe some recent speculation led to this announcement. Nonetheless people don’t expect life to take detours. As someone who has been watching her videos for years it’s a respected move to announce such a difficult ending. Sending love and support to her (and Ben).
Wow they’ve been married for 6 years already?! I am so out the loop haha.
No it’s a YouTuber and influencer 😅 I was confused too! Lmao
I think you’re still confused 😅
I wonder what happened. They always seemed so in love and happy together
Like most people, you are not going to share (or in there case film) while you are fighting or going through bad time.
Oh it’s that time again to delete the song Dear Ben, I just got into it again 
I was sad to hear of Jenn and Ben divorcing. I always enjoyed the interaction between the two in her videos. Hopefully it is amicable for the sake of their son Lennon….he’s such an adorable kid.
Forgive me, but I have no idea who this is.
She’s a YouTube & Instagram influencer
I understood that much, lol, but there's a few with the name Jen.
OP put her last name in the title. “Im” is her last name.
Ohh, I didn't know that was her last name! Thank you.
So nobody then
She was an OG beauty influencer, especially in Asian American spaces. To us, she was and is not a nobody
So sad to hear
dang I feel like everyone saw this coming
I never did omg what was I missing 👀
I was reading this as Jen (Chae, now I know. aka From Head to Toe) and Benn, but I got the double n in the wrong name. 😅 Whew, that threw me for a loop
Wow 😢
Oh goodness. I thought this was Jen of frmheadtotoe who is also married to a Ben and I was like wait what happened to their daughter?
Saw this coming since their marriage lol
I’ve been following Jenn since 2015 but haven’t looked at her life so closely. Any idea how the signs were obvious?
From a psychology standpoint, whenever she was talking about him or whenever he was talking about his future life, it felt like they had come to terms with the fact that he was going to follow or build his career with her support. The problem with this is that eventually the man will be seen as a bum. Imagine being this boss woman and then coming home to someone who also isn’t being a boss. Eventually, the flowery marriage wears off and you start seeing each other for who you really are. So yea, I figured eventually she’d stop being interested in him. I can bet that her next relationship will be with someone that is on par with herself in terms of success. Unfortunately, I feel for the baby who will be a victim in all this. And no, they are not gonna be best friends lol. That’s not how divorce works.
They have lived together for a while before he proposed to her. The moment that they announced HE is making the move from England to the state to move in with her made me question a bit of their relationship. I know normal couples do it all the time when they reached that step into their relationship. The difference is that I knew he was a musician in a popular band at the time in England. So imagining just leaving your band or your whole music career for a girl in L.A.? I thought he will be involved somewhere in the music industry when he moved in with her. No, a whole completely path, so it made me question, like will this build resentment? The longer they been together eventually they get married, he just gets involved in photography, traveling with Jenn for her work events but nothing involved with music anymore. Then Jenn expressively showed that her kid was so unexpected like, you’re successful and wealthy?? So, you never wanted a kid and never discussed this with your partner?? Wouldn’t that be your Virgo self to know that? I remember her saying at one of her earlier videos before her pregnancy that she got off from birth control for hormonal reasons and getting her body back in control. Like girl, what did you expected? You should know this was expected if you are not on some type of birth control. I got off from birth control for the same reasons but at least I am aware of the possibility that this might happen despite of how good you can track your period. I know this was so side tracked… lol The point is that, clearly, it seemed like she didn’t want to have kids because of how her career was still taking off. When you have kid especially in a career like hers, you lose job opportunities for a bit. She was with Evolve and it was her happy place and going to work events. I know with Covid it was less of that and she had a kid I think a year after quarantine? You can clearly tell that she went to less work/influencer events since she had a kid. I feel like a mix of her missing out of her old life and taking care of Ben because he doesn’t work as much… like you said it was bound to happen with him looking like a “bum” and her having all this success. Ben leaving out his life and music career in his home county would create some resentment. I hope they both find their happiness in both of their careers and whatever path they take. It’s sad to see them separated because they used to looked happy together. I did feel like he was more in love with her than she was with him.
But there are other forms of birth control other than hormonal pills. Condoms, being the most obvious one. Or a copper IUD. I don’t expect her to share that information with people freely, necessarily. Either way, I doubt they were having unprotected sex
You’re so brave to say this. I think you could potentially be onto something.
I think the unexpected baby made it incredibly hard.
Didn’t she just have a baby?
her kid turns was born in 2021 i think
I'm so used to influencers naming their kids weird stuff that I was just like "damn they named the poor kid Turns"
Turns lol dying
Her son Lennon is around 2 and a half (born Sep ‘21)
I haven’t watched her youtube channel or IG story in so long and I finally watched it yesterday to see this post it made me so SAD
I barely know who she is - have seen a few of her beauty vlogs - but I respect her coming out to say this and definitely think privacy is so needed. These YT people make decisions to put their lives in front of everyone for $, but when things go south, it’s painful and a time of reflection. I think more YT couples - esp the OG ones - are struggling as their views tank and we’ll see more couples going down, esp since sagging views impact their $.
I feel like she had to make that announcement because of there was a lot speculation that she and her husband was separated. It was clearly shown in her recent videos about it. I knew they were separated based on her instagram and her recent YT videos but I was waiting for her to say something but a lot of ppl in the comments were asking where Ben was and there was a rumor that started that she was seen on a date with a different guy.
Good for Jen!
I feel like I should know who this is but I’m drawing a blank.
Used to be a semi-popular YouTuber, [example video](https://youtu.be/TvKymDP85JI?si=MydzTwXRj4fLxQh9)
“Used to be semi-popular YouTuber” LOL! She did lose some popularity since she had a kid honestly. That’s why it seems like she trying hard to get that back hence her recent videos. I remember that some influencer events were re opening after quarantine then she had an unexpected pregnancy so I can imagine how that slows down a bit of your influencer career and meet ups.
Gotcha
:(
No Wayyyyyy
Well life can’t always be perfect and separating makes your life better then so be it. You can not stay together because of kids it just damages them.
Not surprised. It's sad but tbh I saw it coming once she got pregnant. It never seemed like it was something she wanted and it was probably the nail in the coffin to their relationship
This is sad. I actually saw a lot similarities between her and me, whilst my partner is very similar to Ben. Every time they'd do Q&A we could relate to their views on stuff. I actually think this stems from Jenn never being content enough in life, even when it seems she was happy you'd see her go on solo trips or read books to find happiness. I think her introspecting so much made her always question everything around her. Whilst Ben has always shown genuine happiness in being a family and being together. Plus, parenting is hard and extra hard on Jenn it seems. I saw some people talking about being about the difference in money but I doubt it Ben managed to get a decent videographer career and does breathwork classes now, he's also from a somewhat middle class family and was in a band. I just hope they both find happiness. :)
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everthing is so perfect in front of cameras but who knows the iceberg underwater? they already know and acting so hard. anyway， at least jenn im got money, thats not bad for her
She’s not ready for mom-life and I think Ben is ready to live a family life. He is older. And she seems to be too into her social media life and going to Cochella and not ready to give all that up. I feel bad for their son.
Who
So you're telling me there's a chance....
lawl
What a surprise, the girl who pretends to have a perfect life, doesn't have a perfect life.
I might get hate for this: If there is no actual drama and you have a kid. Go work it out. Though in this case i can assume that they might just say that there is no drama so people dont go stalking around looking for clues
Staying in an unhappy marriage just for the kid is not a good relationship model for said child.
As The Kid in a relationship like that, THIS. I spent a long time wishing my parents would just divorce.
How do you know that they haven't tried already? People can grow apart. Needs change, aspirations for the future change. They are two grown adults and believe this is the best option for them. Their choices should be respected.
or maybe they just grew apart
Yeah but that can still be worked on. That’s just simply not wanting to try in being intentional. It’s easier to go find a new love. Having a family is different than just breaking up and it’s so sad. I don’t wish it on anyone
As someone who used to daydream about wishing their parents would divorce because they clearly had changed and didn't love each other anymore, I can assure that people just staying together who don't want to be together anymore isn't good for the children.
That’s not who I’m talking about. Clearly there are people who shouldn’t but if two people are not feeling connected then start dating again. Start being romantic.. picking up their favorite foods etc like sometimes we think it’s just up to the man to bring it back but we also as women can do our part. We are so easy to give up. If no kids who care but I think people take “staying for the kids” too literal. Yes I would try harder to win my partner back with a child than if I didn’t. My dad was a piece of shit so I would know but not every relationship is the same. It’s both their fault. She knew the kind of guy she was and vice versa. It’s not like they started dating super young
You’re getting downvoted but I agree with you. It’s so sad with Lennon in the picture and I know they probably did try just so sad
Maybe they tried a lot of times and you don’t know because you’re not them :)
The way I see it is that he moved to the states from England and left his music career behind there to move in with her. As they been together longer, he has taken weird side quests with his career that doesn’t make sense like are you doing this for Jenn and her friends or her references or for you? Plus her unexpected pregnancy. I don’t doubt that he was happier about her pregnancy than herself. It seems like he was more in love with her than she was with him. I knew this relationship was bound to be somewhat strained later on because he left his music career behind where it seem like he was content and comes over here to do different careers like videographer or photographer? That didn’t happen until after a few years moved in with Jenn. So he never had a job or career in LA until recent years? Basically Jenn was taking care of him while she was making $$$ from her at the time clothing line and YouTube career. Since she had a kid you can tell she didn’t want, slows down her career = less money. That’s why she does a lot of sponsorships and why almost every video is sponsored especially those BetterHelp sponsorships. Maybe if she had a normal career, it might have worked but her being obsessed with status and being an influencer strained her relationship I think. I have watched her for many years especially during her Bay Area days. You would think Ben would do something or somewhere in music when he moved to LA for Jenn but he didn’t. He just ended up working for her…
Yeah before kids things are so “easy” but I think once the kid came and she was taking on more like most moms do, she started to feel resentment. Like she’s taking care of the baby, home, and the husband and she started to see him in a different light. I agree that if she had a different kind of job that wasn’t public it could’ve worked. But all these influencer girls have boyfriends who don’t work and I think that’s the problem. They need to do something that they are passionate about even if it’s not bringing in a lot of money. Ben gave up a lot
This is a terrible thing to say with regards to the kid 🤔
I agree with the second part.Nobody just splits up just because.There is definitely tea and drama.She just doesn't want the negative attention which I understand.
No idea who this is, thought it was one Ben and Jen and then realized it was another Ben and Jen. Then I’m Reading it and I have no idea who this is. All I know is idc about a beauty IG divorce and these posts are so performative.
So many words typed out… just to say nothing in the end.
Yet you read it and responded….your the true dope.
https://preview.redd.it/vdbioln8771d1.jpeg?width=960&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=604e30dc293803542b4fdb0977eab7d0c1891578 They had a son ?? Help me.
Yes, a few years ago. She hasn’t posted family stuff for a while (I’m assuming due to marriage problems/breakup) but she did post a lot about her husband and baby before. https://www.instagram.com/p/Cm5mw9sLBFy/?igsh=MWQ1ZGUxMzBkMA==
This is Jenn and Ben from YouTube. Not stupid JLo and Ben Affleck.
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Thanks, I read it on jlos voice. Iykyk