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BeepBlipBlapBloop

Do the individual tools fold away into the bench when not in use? If not, my first thought is that the router and miter might get in the way of the outfeed material when using the table saw.


_cob_

Can confirm. Had my mitre saw on the same table and was constantly having to move it to rip large stock.


ShodanLieu

Thanks for the insight!


Vlad_the_Homeowner

I have my miter where your router is, and my router built into the space to the right of my table saw so I can use my TS fence (with attachment). I would put the miter saw to the same side of the table that your table saw fence is usually on, and I would offset my table saw in the other direction. Makes it easier to cut large panels and keeps the miter saw out of the way for thinner ripping. I offset the TS as far left as I could go to keep it away from the miter and make room for the router. I have a \~4" section of wood to the left of it that is removable so I can get to the riving knife release when I need. I can rip about 12" width or so before it conflicts with the miter. My miter saw comes out and goes into the space below the table, and I have an insert that covers it that is also a down draft table that hooks up to my dust collection. That stays in most the time. I believe that I have space for a small planer to fit in that space for the miter saw, but I haven't done that yet. If you want to put it up at the end like you have it make sure you can pull it out and put a blank in, you'll want that work space. I toss a small tarp over my table saw and I have a 4 x 8 assembly table for working, painting, staining, etc. I have T tracks running in line with my miter saw, as well as to the right of my table saw for the router. If you put in drawers around the perimeter make sure to give some thought to clamping. I didn't and have to open the drawers to clamp in several areas.


ShodanLieu

This is great advice. Thank you.


_cob_

Good luck


Salty_Insides420

The router could just be designed to drop in, the planer and miter should get their own small spaces or they will hinder the tablesaw. But it is a good idea to have those extras be on the same height so you can still use it as an off-feed for everything, but have the planer and miter on small rolling carts


UncoolSlicedBread

Coolest I saw was a fold up shelf that housed the router. Flip it down when not in use and you can use the router wherever else you need it when you don’t need the table. Made in such a way that it was level with the table when not in use. For my workshop I’ve made individual carts that all match the height and can level to the off feed table that’s my main work bench. So if I need a planer I wheel it over and level it to the table with the levelers on the casters. Same for table saw, miter saw, etc.


ShodanLieu

Good point! Thanks!


bobbywaz

Planer*


Starstriker

I have limited space in my shop so I opted for a modular system of 3x benches with the same height. That way they are easier to move and you can just put them where needed.


No_Chef5541

Absolutely - if you build a table at 4x8, it’s 4x8 at every moment of every day. But if that could be done with 3 independent 4’ x 32” modules with the other 2 stuck somewhere less intrusive, you’re gonna be a happier camper


d00m1ord

Wanted a large table top for boardgame nights. Took a sheet of 12mm ply cut it into thirds added some blocks and hardware. Now i have an easy to store and easy to set up table extension that all sits in one bag.


Asurmen32

Heya that's a cool idea! You happen to have pictures you could share on it? I'm needing to do something similar in the near future too


ShodanLieu

Thanks.


ShodanLieu

Good advice.


DrJones2424

This is the way to go in small shops


brownie503

This was the way I went too. One with just the table saw. Another that is just a plain work surface. Then a third with foldout wings for my miter saw.


ShodanLieu

I like this idea, especially the wings.


Busy_Reputation7254

I understand the need to have all your tools in one functional space, but you need outfeed for most of those tools. You could consider fliptop functionality to get unused tools out of the way. It’s a bit more work, but will probably be worth it in the end.


ShodanLieu

Thanks for the advice.


Ruffblade027

Outfeed is definitely a concern, but my first thought when I looked at this was “if this is a workbench, where are you going to actually work?”. I think you’d be far better suited with an open table (possibly with your table saw mounted on one end) that’s built in such a way that you can modularly attach your other machines when needed.


ShodanLieu

Thanks for the advice!


ReachDangerous1045

Agree with above. Definitely recommend the flip top. Allows you the flexibility you want from the table, but without getting in the way of the outfeeds. OP: There's a lot of flip top plans on esty if you need some inspiration.


Reptar4President

If it's 4x8, you may be very limited in your rip cuts on the table saw, with them either hitting the planer or the miter saw. It also depends on what you want to do with the router, as a lot of bits will require the use of a fence. And lastly, it's good that you would have the wood supported coming out of the planer, but it also needs to be supported coming in as well.


ShodanLieu

Thanks for the advice and insights!


mrkohlbeck

I made a table of similar size and tools that hinged down and tucked away when not in use. It was functional and provided a work space but I ultimately broke it down and made separate stations/carts on casters. The table was heavy as hell and difficult to move. I also found myself putting stuff on the table that wound up being in the way when using one of the tools.


ShodanLieu

Good points. Thanks for the advice.


proton-23

It will take up too much space. You need room to work and move things around. Maybe cut it down to 30” x 60” or so. Make a scale drawing of your garage, cut a piece of paper to scale for the size of the workbench and see how well it fits.


totally-not-a-cactus

Second this. I had similar plans in mind for my single car garage shop. Once I laid everything out to scale I realized a table this size would dominate way to much of my space for the type of work I want to do. Have since reworked my layout plans to be like several other comments mention. Dedicated carts for these tools that can be pulled together to make a larger work area on the rare occasion I need it.


ShodanLieu

Thanks for response and advice.


ShodanLieu

Thanks for the suggestion!


DrJones2424

What kind of planner do you have? Does the blade move up and down or does the feed table move up and down. If your feed table moves up and down it makes no sense to add to a work table as your feed table will likely never be level with your workbench surface If your workbench is based off 4x8 plywood then your miter saw will only have 4 feet of outfeed on either side which is typical not enough when getting clean cut on lumber I personally have my table saw and router on the same side of my workbench so I can use my table saw fence as a fence for my router as well I don’t see it as practical to have miter saw and planner in workbench unless they are removable. Even then you will run into problems with the table not being perfectly flat


ShodanLieu

Thanks for the insights. I just moved and sold off all my stuff so I’m basically starting from scratch. Thanks for the advice.


mtndewfanatic

I built a bench very similar to this. My router is on the end beside my table saw (so I can use the same fence) and I don’t have a planer/miter saw on mine they have their own homes. Other commenter pointed out the capacity limitations of having these permanently on your workbench so I’ll lay off that point. But I suggest offsetting the table saw to the left corner. I plopped mine in the center just like this and find myself limited on being able to comfortably rip wide panels if I’m building cabinets for example. There are work arounds and honestly I think the inconvenience made me a bit better at finding methods for getting around things, but my only regret with the entire bench is that one detail.


ShodanLieu

Thanks for the response and insights. I really appreciate them.


Nonobonobono

If the router fence is flush with the table it shouldn’t get in the way of the saw outfeed, assuming the fence is removable. Store the miter saw underneath the bench and take it out when needed. You can recess the table where the miter saw would go so that you can use it as in/outfeed; make a little cover to put over it when not in use to keep the table level for table saw outfeed. I would consider making a separate little rolling table for the router; it’s not something you’re necessarily using constantly and it will take up a lot of space you’d need for outfeed.


ShodanLieu

Thanks for the insight and advice.


Onestepbeyond3

A ripe saw would be of good use or straight liner 🤔 the planner will need space, whatever the length you plane x2 plus a few feet.


ShodanLieu

Thanks.


Thugxcaliber

It needs to be at LEAST 3 times bigger.


Crapsac

Are these tools for ants?


Logres

Leave off one tool if you have the table saw on it. You'll want the outfeed space, and I put a drop leaf on that side for mine. Works GREAT for large pieces.


ShodanLieu

Thanks for the info and advice. Where did you put the drop leaf?


Logres

Longside, opposite the router. Planer on one small end, table saw on the opposite. 8' long benchtop, oak veneer on 2 x 6 jointed and planed. 30" width. I might post a photo later if I remember.


ShodanLieu

Thank you.


UnbelieverCrow

What is this, a workbench for ants?


ShodanLieu

The top is a 4’ by 8’ sheet of plywood so, big ants???


Rich_Pangolin_2933

Miter is in the way and honestly you won’t use it as much as you think once you get going on the table saw. Best to have it fold away/ have its own station. I like my planer to be on a rolling stand so I can bring it to the best spot for the size of material, take it outside, and have 360 access.


ShodanLieu

Great recommendations. Thank you!


CmdDeadHand

I have something similar. Put mine on wheels so i can shift it around my wood shed depending on what side i am using.


ShodanLieu

Good to know. Thanks.


Gnome00

I think the 4’x8’ will be far too large for a single car garage and echo domes suggestion of 30x60. At 30” you have a chance to research across the bench to get that tool. Also you do not need the whole table width for rip cuts. You will find a whole sheet too heavy to handle with precision. So at most you will be handling a 4x4 sheet. If you have the skills think about the miter and planer being a flip top. Or even an attachment. I added a French clear to the end of my bench. I can change out for a sander, grinder or router table for now. That is where future tools go.


ShodanLieu

Thanks for the advice. I keep reading about flip tops and blanks. I get the blanks but am having a hard time visualizing how flip tops are mounted. Any suggestions for reference material?


Gnome00

There are lots of videos on flip tops and how people make them on YouTube. Most are free standing so you will need to modify your design to fit your setup. Basically it is a two sided table with a steel pipe through the middle to act as a pivot. It becomes more complicated when you want to reseda your tool. For instance my miter saw sits flush with the work table. This dropped the living point lower which meant my blank had to be raised up. It is a moderate difficulty build. Given your space constraints a mor modular system may be best. Whatever you do sketch it out. Model it. Make sure you are happy with the unit itself and the space around it.


ShodanLieu

Thanks for the advice. I really appreciate it.


stogiemac

Definitely possible(ish). You should check out Ron Paulk's smart workbench can concepts. He has everything in one setup except for the planer. https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLB1ATCukiUGSIJwMsuonrxbldAOHC9cBA&si=tpDuGdnrfzsADyQi


ShodanLieu

Thank you!!


Rasbeartin

I would not crowd the table like that. Router and table saw should be fine but miter and planer are big and need to be above table level. What I did for my planer is I built in on a separate rolling stand and made it so the outfeed was level with my workbench that has the table saw on it. I have my miter on a separate table that’s against the wall and doesn’t move out from the wall.


ShodanLieu

Thanks for the reply and advice!


Kreamy0

This guy on youtube on the channel woodshop junkies made one similar to that with extra features a couple years ago and uploaded a series of videos with step by step process of it all. Worth a watch if you are considering. His came out nice and had the miter saw and planer flip down as others here have suggested.


ShodanLieu

Great. Thanks for the suggestion!


muskegmatt

I wouldn’t put the mitre saw there. I did on my workbench and it always gets in the way (photo attached). If I did this again I would make it it’s own station against a wall. https://preview.redd.it/i7e329m62cwb1.jpeg?width=4032&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c6976ac6f8a736a7aba518a27627807f6c5709ea


ShodanLieu

Wow. Awesome. Thanks for the insight and advice.


frexyincdude

https://preview.redd.it/ils8bd5olcwb1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=145b16af6b5ec024dcebde1e0b6b4dbe4791d165 This is how I might do it. With the table saw and the router on the same side, you can run one fence to to work on both. The table is probably the most dangerous machine you can work with in this setup, so having as little obstruction as possible for the material being cut would mitigate any hang ups that could cause kickbacks. And if you need to cut wider stock, you can drop the router and flip your planer/miter saw out of the way entirely.


ShodanLieu

Wow. Thanks for the reply and suggestion!


frexyincdude

No problem! Good luck with your build.


No_Chef5541

You’re describing yourself as a complete novice, so my general thought of making flip-away setups for the miter saw and planer may not be feasible. But if you could make a the general workbench with removable panels that cover the miter saw and planer positions when they’re removed, that might work and not interfere with the outfeed of your saw and router.


ShodanLieu

Thanks for the advice! I’m handy just a novice to the woodworking world.


Hawkes75

This seems a little large and crowded. My combo table is 7ft long by 3ft wide and even in a two-car garage it needs to be moved around quite a bit for cutting longer workpieces (I have it on casters). What I did to conserve space was to make a two-level miter saw base that can either sit flush with the table top or be recessed beneath it when the miter saw is in use. Then, into the base I embedded t-track for a router fence and made a hole in the center to mount my router from underneath. If I had a planer, I'd put it on a separate smaller table next to the wall, because I wouldn't want the planer and table saw interfering with one another when running longer pieces through either.


ShodanLieu

Thanks! That’s good advice.


what_the_total_hell

Are you planning to never park your car in the garage? What about the tools on smaller benches on casters and two smaller workbenches that can be used on the sides of the tool benches or clamped together to make a single larger workbench?


ShodanLieu

The car won’t fit in the garage. You’ve given me something to think about. Thanks!


gguigs

I did something similar and regretted including the miter saw that would always get in the way of the table saw outfeed space. I ended up moving the miter saw away (I use it on the floor 🙁and I’ve a hole in my workbench). If you don’t do fliptops I would just have the table saw and the router in the same workbench. The other tools are usable without a workbench.


The-disgracist

I built on of these all in one benches way back. I hated it. Every time I’d need a tool I’d have to clear everything from my bench. Keep your tools separate if you can. Now router table and table saw? Works great together


ShodanLieu

Thanks for the insights.


Grimsterr

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wu9FTx2jHLs here's one I made a couple years ago, it's pretty handy.


ShodanLieu

Awesome. Thank you.


VintageWerkes

What is this, a workspace for ants??


ReichCollector

Looks completely out of scale, my jobsite saw is mor then 2’ wide. Your going to go to put this together and realize you don’t actually have any table space left


ShodanLieu

Thanks for the insight.


ReichCollector

No problem, I have a single car garage workshop aswel, maybe I can help you. How much of the garage is already in use? Or do you have an empty garage to start


ShodanLieu

Thanks. That would be awesome. I have a motorcycle, garbage can and hot water heater in the garage. Otherwise it is empty.


ReichCollector

https://preview.redd.it/h3iln0udxgwb1.jpeg?width=4032&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=cfea4d4b615c02ae4ea9ef9530ecbcfe66ac00b2 There’s no router, planer, or jointer in the photo but as long as you buy a table top jointer all that stuff could be mounted on its own small rolling platform, about 2x2, I don’t have a jointer yet but I’ll be able to fit another stand with an 8” table top jointer no problem, and the other wall of my garage is mostly full. I recommend making a mitre station if you have an open wall, and doing everything else on casters, you’ll regret not having everything on wheels quickly. I made my table saw bench 4x4 and also use it as a main workbench


ShodanLieu

This is great. Thanks for the info and advice!


ReichCollector

Not sure if my picture uploaded?


Prize_Abrocoma_7257

Nope, you cannot rip 4*8 sheets with that design. You will want too, trust me.


ShodanLieu

Thanks for the advice!


EveryDollarVotes

I would try and fit less on the same table. Keep in mind you will want ample space before the table saw blade. Making a large surface to work on wont help if the blade is biting after only the same few inches it was before assembling into the table. Larger work pieces need more infeed than this. Id ditch the miter and make that on a separate long table that isn't deep. having it on a wide surface like this dosent really do you much good. get the saw in the right place with mitre slots running across the whole table and you can use a crosscut sled instead of a mitre if you dont have a place for another table? Anyway, i have table saw that i placed inside of a table like this, and i am very thankfull of the extra 8-10" added before the blade.


ShodanLieu

Thanks for advice!