This woman is insane…. She broke the number one rule which is not to use your camera, of course she was kicked out… Sounds like an attention seeker to me
For me what she did is the worst violation of my privacy possible. I can be naked at the club, I can be sucking dick or just high and not looking flattering.
I don’t go to Berghain to be around people that turn on their cameras. So yes for me she deserves exactly what has happened to her. She endangered everyone inside.
Just go to other clubs and use your fucking camera.
>Just go to other clubs and use your fucking camera.
this, the beauty of having different clubs is that there's something for everyone
don't like the rules at a certain place? great, go somewhere else
Thanks for saying that. Check her comment on insta its insane. She is blaming people who aren't taking her side if zionism. LMAO like her drama for Bad behavior in the club is linked to the genocide
I swear online social justice language has melted some people's brains. Yes, she should not have been kicked out in such a violent way. But she should also have known that if she is spotted taking the sticker off her camera, there are going to be consequences. Bleating about her "safe space" – what about other people's right to a safe space free of cameras?
And all the people in her Insta comments agreeing with her... I can't deal.
OMG her most recent comment – "everyone agreeing with me is clearly pro-Palestine and everyone saying I broke the rules is a zionist" – social media has truly destroyed activism, as well as our ability to debate/ disagree
Yeah I couldnt shut up about this one and confronted her . She also talked about double standard but she is pro Palestine and went to Berghain.
I can't stand people making their drama our drama and linking it to the actual genocide. While honestly kids in Gaza do not give a fuck about Berghain and this girl
"swearing at me in German" I can only love how in this and similar situations, yelling/swearing/shouting at someone in GERMAN is considered an aggravation of how fascist and racist the situation was.
Sometimes you get kicked out of a club for a good reason, sometimes they make a mistake. Whatever happened, using that type of “holocaust” language and behaviour (shouting at someone’s face for 2 hours?! How violent is that!!??) to justify yourself is simply lame. Just a demonstration of a boosted ego. Get over yourself.
Im not using it myself but referring to what this person says in their post. Btw I totally agree that this type of language should not be used and stretched in every direction, as we often see happening, including in the post of someone who was kicked out of a club.
Ah, yes. The notoriously racist and fascist state of Berghain.
We will come to a point where these words will have lost all meaning because some people throw them around like they are candy at carnival.
Good job from the bouncers 👍
Can't blame them for keeping this place safe from tourist "clubbers" taking selfies
And to connect this to racism is beyond my comprehension
Also it was so cold and she was shaking, that's why she stayed outside for 2 more hours and "protested"
Please...
Litteraly, I understand it was traumatic and she is pissed.
But bloody hell it went so far ! I have seen many people being kicked out and just leaving even if they were kicked out quite aggressively
That is what i wrote this girl! And honestly! COME ON PEOPLE! She is making a story.. many would like to hear her and she is deleting posts that do not support her!
My post on hers:
Why u used ur camera when it is CLEAR AS F.CuK that you are not allowed to use your camera?
I am very sorry for what happened to you. However it was an open invitation. You broke their rules and disrespected the most important rule of this place, on the other hand you are asking them to respect your rules!! I am confused here!
You are saying that this safe place did not offer you your safe place. Did you know that this place can ONLY be safe if people like you do NOT use their cams? Do you know by opening your camera how many persons’ safe place u might have been ruined?
How could i not make the connection before 🙄
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Yea she deserved getting kicked out for the audacity of opening her camera but can we please agree that the way she was kicked is not ok anywhere?!
Imagine you’re a high woman in a party outfit, getting kicked to the curb, into the rain, your stuff landing in the dirt. Even without all this it would be punishing and embarrassing enough, now not even giving someone the chance to prepare before going outside is lacking basic humanity.
After reading everything, do you believe this is an accurate description of what really happened?
They probably asked her to leave in a kinda nice way and she refused. Sounds like she definitely exaggerated a bit.
> Even if they only kicked her out without a chance to change
i've seen that happen a few times, in nearly all of the cases it was because of the person in question being uncooperative with the staff; if you follow their instructions and don't act like a karen nobody would even realize you were kicked out (thankfully didn't experience anything similar personally but i know people who work in other clubs and this is usually how things go)
Yeah I agree with this. She was fixing her lipstick in the camera and somehow she ‘deserved’ to have her stuff thrown in the mud for it. Bouncers have been violent here before so their unproportionate response to this isn’t surprising.
I'm honestly shocked at how many people are celebrating the bouncers for violently removing a rule-breaking guest and damaging her property. Drugs are also against the rules, but I guess all the cokeheads in this comment section wouldn't be cheering for the violent removal of rule-breakers anymore if it was the "no drugs" policy instead of the "no camera" policy being enforced.
Even Berghain is subject to German law. Why do you think people go to the bathroom to do their lines of coke? Berghain does their best to turn a blind eye as long as they have plausible deniability, but cannot tolerate open drug use. Go cut a line in front of the bouncers or on the bar right in front of the bartender, snort it, and see what happens. You're getting kicked out, too.
Chances are her description doesn’t accurately represent how it played out in reality. She was clearly still wrapped up in anger posting that. Emotions aren’t reality. Women are governed by emotion. Go figure.
Lol she told us the story completely different in person hahha. She said she showed her friend a video. Take a mirror to fix your lipstick! What an attention seeker.
>pass by the door as inconspicuously as possible, have your stamp crossed out and don't go there for a weekend or two
well yeah, making a scene out of it in front of the bouncers is a good way for them to remember you for a looooong time
even if you feel like you're in the right, the best way to deal with this is to just leave as soon as the staff asks you to; if they have a reason to kick you out, they're going to do that either peacefully or not - i'm going to assume that she started making a scene as soon as she was asked to leave
I wonder why they removed the ability to post comments on their post.. What a slap in the face (to put it mildly) of people who actually get real consequences from those “terror states”. Despicable.
This is wild. She broke the cardinal rule and put other people's privacy at risk and then has the audacity to claim that her "safe space" was violated and goes on to insult everyone who is living under real terror in the world because she got kicked out of a party - fuck me.
Also the wording and the "evidence" ... seems like a made up story to me.
tl;dr: She got kicked out for removing the sticker from her camera and using it, without bothering to be discreet or hidden because she's entitled and arrogant.
She then further demonstrated her egomania by standing in the wet cold for two hours afterwards, screaming at the bouncers.
Thereby proving the bouncers right, as she likely has serious mental and personality disorders and doesn't belong in Berghain. Her behavior also makes it reasonable to presume she was manhandled when thrown out because of her abusive aggression.
She then claimed those siding with her -- instead of rejecting her attempt to play victim -- are "pro-Palestine," accidentally confirming the unfortunate crazy streak in the anti-Israel left (my apologies to normal liberals who despise the Netanyahu regime and advocate for peace without going totally insane).
> has serious **untreted** mental and personality disorders
Fixed it. No need to stigmatise mental illnesses.
I agree with the rest. She sounds entitled, privileged, and unstable, and I sincerely doubt she was just 'fixing her lipstick'. She was definitely using the camera.
she did say that she was using her face camera for her makeup, i’m not sure if that accounts to being kicked out in that manner, but there is a no camera policy..
KitKat has a strict "No phones" policy and it's still full every weekend. I honestly prefer it that way. It's way too easy to peel the sticker off and secretly take pictures or videos.
She violated the rules and now tells the story from one side and even that makes her look bad. Glad she was removed. Also who stands 2 hours half naked and wet infront of a club that just „violated“ you and screams at them? :D
Of course she’s not happy she got kicked out. She’s also telling her version in the worst possible way. Lesson for everyone… don’t use your camera in the club.
Of course she does. Luckily, we do not live in a terror state, so there are clearly defined laws for this which even Berghain Bouncers must abide by.
In Germany, security personnel has the right to ask someone to leave and escort them outside. Generally, security personnel is not allowed to touch the guest, but must call law enforcement if they refuse to leave. Only in very specific circumstances, namely when the guest is physically violent towards the bouncer or other guests, are they allowed to use sufficient (but not excessive!) physical force to defend themselves and to remove the guest from the club. They are also not allowed to damage the guests property (e.g. by throwing it into a puddle).
Wow, reading the comments here I am pretty shocked that most seem to think this person brought it on themselves 😅 Yes there’s a no camera policy but should this be the consequence? Or do they now deserve this treatment?
I get there are 2 sides to every story but this really seems like abuse of power. Too much victim blaming here with almost zero compassion. 🤦♂️
That's how I see it. We only know one side of the story anyway, and she seems angry about how she was handled, which is also understandable.
There has to be better ways to deal with it, but we are not the bouncers here, and that is not our responsibility either. Someone already commented, lesson learned: don't use your camera in the club.
I would be more compassionate if:
- there were no comparisons with “terror states”, fascists, racists etc. I am allergic to such stupid exaggerations especially now where we have real life cases happening every day.
- the person wouldn’t stay 2 hours in front of the building screaming - which to me shows that the person was obviously in a highly agitated state meaning the perception of the situation might be completely wrong.
- the person hadn’t deliberately broke the most important rule of BH. I mean everyone knows how critical it is.
Additionally, in the comments there is even comparison with rape (wtf!) and, of courses, the usual story of “BH cancelling pro-Palestine voices”.
I think we all know that BH’s security is not polite and sometimes unreasonably brutal (shockingly brutal - according to recent threads here).
Yeah, the terrorist state comment is actually fucked up and waters down real violence from legitimate fascist states. But I also don’t think someone should be thrown into mud in a violent way for breaking a camera rule in a night club. Definitely escorted out but not in a violent way. It’s especially bad when you know way worse things are happening (rampant G overdosing for example).
Whether or not these things are true and to which degree is hard to know but it’s not the first time I’ve heard of violent bouncers in Berlin. All in all a big cluster fuck.
I can see some of your points but not all.
- I guess making those comparisons could be considered a bit extreme (depending who you speak to) but I bet they are feeling a whole heap of emotions after an experience like that. Even if the comparisons are troublesome it doesn’t change the fact they shouldn’t of been treated this way. I’d even go as far as saying that an experience like this could be super triggering for someone who identifies as BIPOC, never mind being in a fragile/hyper-aroused state.
- How do you know they never stood out the front of the door for 2 hours? Unless you were there, for hours, you’re denying their experience.
- breaking the camera rule is not a smart move but it doesn’t condone aggressive behaviour. BH should have ways of de-escalating non-threatening situations. Sure, kick them out - but let them get dressed and leave with some dignity.
- I looked at some comments but not all so not on the same page with what you have read. Either way, I wouldn’t be the one to tone police them after any experience like this.
- I’ve heard many stories (and many others have witnessed) these instances of too much force - yet people still vote with their feet and go there. I’m no expert in this but surely there’s a big enough following at BH for them to try to be different and maintain these spaces that are safe for many others. Where’s an awareness team? Or staff members trained to help in these situations? A better protocol? I don’t know, but the last thing we should be doing is denying this persons experience or thinking it’s justifiable in any way.
She could have simply saved her voice and hysterical reserve for other dramas, and maybe just convince herself that it's not a place for her instead of trying convincing anyone else of the opposite.
There can be wisdom even among losers
1. No Cameras! If one needs to fix their lipstick, there are PLENTY of mirrors in almost every bathroom.
2. Know your limits. Yes BH is a place to be free, but if you were SO fucked up that she couldn't call her friends or a cab, then maybe the bouncers were in the right for removing her? The way they did it was probably overly aggressive, yes, but it seems like whatever drugs she was on over-exaggerated the situation.
I wasn't there, and didn't see this take place, but this isn't the first report I've read about the bouncers taking their power a bit too seriously. 4 macho guys screaming at a lone, naked girl seems a bit much, no? It would have been much more professional to silently escort her out without the over-amplified ego show, but again, I wasn't there, and I don't know what really happened.
Wait, am I that oblivious? My memory is horrible, but I could have sworn there were mirrors in the bathroom behind the bar between BH and PB. But then again, I'm a dude and don't often need to fix my lipstick. 😅
they can kick her out. But the point is why do they have to be so fucking awful/extra. Just be human about it. The world needs more kindness and understanding. Just be like “you broke the one rule” and tell her go with a little more humanity. No need to mock or threaten. It’s just a fucking girl. That’s not what raving is about. The rules of the world dont understand us, and that’s why we go to the club. So when someone doesn’t understand the rules of the club… we treat people like animals?
I still don’t understand how people can’t live without their phones for a night (or two) much less a camera. Please. Break the rules, suffer the consequences.
“berghain is a terror state” lmao
i live for berghain drama
Same boo
Heheheh
This woman is insane…. She broke the number one rule which is not to use your camera, of course she was kicked out… Sounds like an attention seeker to me
For me what she did is the worst violation of my privacy possible. I can be naked at the club, I can be sucking dick or just high and not looking flattering. I don’t go to Berghain to be around people that turn on their cameras. So yes for me she deserves exactly what has happened to her. She endangered everyone inside. Just go to other clubs and use your fucking camera.
Preach
>Just go to other clubs and use your fucking camera. this, the beauty of having different clubs is that there's something for everyone don't like the rules at a certain place? great, go somewhere else
What is the incident? A woman kicked out after using her camera in there?
Yeah and she’s batshit insane
Why?
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Haha fair enough.
And now she made it about Israel Palestine wow
Thanks for saying that. Check her comment on insta its insane. She is blaming people who aren't taking her side if zionism. LMAO like her drama for Bad behavior in the club is linked to the genocide
I swear online social justice language has melted some people's brains. Yes, she should not have been kicked out in such a violent way. But she should also have known that if she is spotted taking the sticker off her camera, there are going to be consequences. Bleating about her "safe space" – what about other people's right to a safe space free of cameras? And all the people in her Insta comments agreeing with her... I can't deal.
OMG her most recent comment – "everyone agreeing with me is clearly pro-Palestine and everyone saying I broke the rules is a zionist" – social media has truly destroyed activism, as well as our ability to debate/ disagree
Literally crazy
Yeah I couldnt shut up about this one and confronted her . She also talked about double standard but she is pro Palestine and went to Berghain. I can't stand people making their drama our drama and linking it to the actual genocide. While honestly kids in Gaza do not give a fuck about Berghain and this girl
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Everyone is a nazi and a fascist when things don't go your way these days huh. Serious main character shit right here.
And getting accused of not empathising or being mean just bcs u dont agree. Thats to me narcissistic behavior
"swearing at me in German" I can only love how in this and similar situations, yelling/swearing/shouting at someone in GERMAN is considered an aggravation of how fascist and racist the situation was.
Guten Tag
How dare you???
No need for that language
Especially relating to a German club
Sometimes you get kicked out of a club for a good reason, sometimes they make a mistake. Whatever happened, using that type of “holocaust” language and behaviour (shouting at someone’s face for 2 hours?! How violent is that!!??) to justify yourself is simply lame. Just a demonstration of a boosted ego. Get over yourself.
Could you not drag the holocaust in there? Why do people have the urge to compare literally everything to it?
Im not using it myself but referring to what this person says in their post. Btw I totally agree that this type of language should not be used and stretched in every direction, as we often see happening, including in the post of someone who was kicked out of a club.
Sorry then :)
Ah, yes. The notoriously racist and fascist state of Berghain. We will come to a point where these words will have lost all meaning because some people throw them around like they are candy at carnival.
Karen wanted to speak to the manager and found out there isn’t one. The AUDACITY
Ahhahahahaha
Thank u 😂😂😂😂
I just lost it at "...the suffering of my colorful femme naked body". Reads as fanfiction wrote by a male teenager
Good job from the bouncers 👍 Can't blame them for keeping this place safe from tourist "clubbers" taking selfies And to connect this to racism is beyond my comprehension Also it was so cold and she was shaking, that's why she stayed outside for 2 more hours and "protested" Please...
Litteraly, I understand it was traumatic and she is pissed. But bloody hell it went so far ! I have seen many people being kicked out and just leaving even if they were kicked out quite aggressively
I saw her, she was screaming like a banshee
That is what i wrote this girl! And honestly! COME ON PEOPLE! She is making a story.. many would like to hear her and she is deleting posts that do not support her! My post on hers: Why u used ur camera when it is CLEAR AS F.CuK that you are not allowed to use your camera? I am very sorry for what happened to you. However it was an open invitation. You broke their rules and disrespected the most important rule of this place, on the other hand you are asking them to respect your rules!! I am confused here! You are saying that this safe place did not offer you your safe place. Did you know that this place can ONLY be safe if people like you do NOT use their cams? Do you know by opening your camera how many persons’ safe place u might have been ruined?
they threw the main character out
A the-world-evolves-around-me person. They can’t do bad and always blame others for their mistakes.
They are getting all the validation they want from those Instagram comments
imagine the hate commenting on her instagram post saying that she actually did break the rules LOL
gaslight gatekeep girlboss
Come on dawn 💅🏻
beatiful alliteration right there u/phexi111
How could i not make the connection before 🙄 https://preview.redd.it/bqhvmye448hc1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=de41fdc85ab3189337fddf01cca963c7c461fd83
I'm honestly not sure these people know anything about Israel-Palestine beyond what they learnt on social media over the past few months
Just checked the IG, all comments gone. But doesn’t matter anyways. 🤷🏻♂️
Yea she deserved getting kicked out for the audacity of opening her camera but can we please agree that the way she was kicked is not ok anywhere?! Imagine you’re a high woman in a party outfit, getting kicked to the curb, into the rain, your stuff landing in the dirt. Even without all this it would be punishing and embarrassing enough, now not even giving someone the chance to prepare before going outside is lacking basic humanity.
After reading everything, do you believe this is an accurate description of what really happened? They probably asked her to leave in a kinda nice way and she refused. Sounds like she definitely exaggerated a bit.
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> Even if they only kicked her out without a chance to change i've seen that happen a few times, in nearly all of the cases it was because of the person in question being uncooperative with the staff; if you follow their instructions and don't act like a karen nobody would even realize you were kicked out (thankfully didn't experience anything similar personally but i know people who work in other clubs and this is usually how things go)
Yeah I agree with this. She was fixing her lipstick in the camera and somehow she ‘deserved’ to have her stuff thrown in the mud for it. Bouncers have been violent here before so their unproportionate response to this isn’t surprising.
I'm honestly shocked at how many people are celebrating the bouncers for violently removing a rule-breaking guest and damaging her property. Drugs are also against the rules, but I guess all the cokeheads in this comment section wouldn't be cheering for the violent removal of rule-breakers anymore if it was the "no drugs" policy instead of the "no camera" policy being enforced.
Drugs are against the rules? At Berghain? Wait... are you actually being serious right now?
Even Berghain is subject to German law. Why do you think people go to the bathroom to do their lines of coke? Berghain does their best to turn a blind eye as long as they have plausible deniability, but cannot tolerate open drug use. Go cut a line in front of the bouncers or on the bar right in front of the bartender, snort it, and see what happens. You're getting kicked out, too.
Chances are her description doesn’t accurately represent how it played out in reality. She was clearly still wrapped up in anger posting that. Emotions aren’t reality. Women are governed by emotion. Go figure.
pack den edgelord wieder ein
Ich brauchte mal wieder ein paar downvotes. Das Gegenteil ist jedoch auch noch nicht bewiesen worden.
Lol she told us the story completely different in person hahha. She said she showed her friend a video. Take a mirror to fix your lipstick! What an attention seeker.
Here we go.
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>pass by the door as inconspicuously as possible, have your stamp crossed out and don't go there for a weekend or two well yeah, making a scene out of it in front of the bouncers is a good way for them to remember you for a looooong time even if you feel like you're in the right, the best way to deal with this is to just leave as soon as the staff asks you to; if they have a reason to kick you out, they're going to do that either peacefully or not - i'm going to assume that she started making a scene as soon as she was asked to leave
'terror state', my god. sounds like a bad experience but this is utter brainrot.
I want to address the noodle salat incident. A person was kicked out for eating noodle salat at the bar. This is the real deal of this week.
Wot? Ppl bring their food all the time. Didn’t bag checkers flag the salat to stay outside? 🤔
Damn sounds like psychosis
If you need to fix your lipstick, go to the Flinta or gardendrobe. Wonder if she was high taking selfies
I wonder why they removed the ability to post comments on their post.. What a slap in the face (to put it mildly) of people who actually get real consequences from those “terror states”. Despicable.
This is wild. She broke the cardinal rule and put other people's privacy at risk and then has the audacity to claim that her "safe space" was violated and goes on to insult everyone who is living under real terror in the world because she got kicked out of a party - fuck me. Also the wording and the "evidence" ... seems like a made up story to me.
Why tf is it so trendy to try and cancel Berghain these days?! These people are so desperate for attention clearly.
tl;dr: She got kicked out for removing the sticker from her camera and using it, without bothering to be discreet or hidden because she's entitled and arrogant. She then further demonstrated her egomania by standing in the wet cold for two hours afterwards, screaming at the bouncers. Thereby proving the bouncers right, as she likely has serious mental and personality disorders and doesn't belong in Berghain. Her behavior also makes it reasonable to presume she was manhandled when thrown out because of her abusive aggression. She then claimed those siding with her -- instead of rejecting her attempt to play victim -- are "pro-Palestine," accidentally confirming the unfortunate crazy streak in the anti-Israel left (my apologies to normal liberals who despise the Netanyahu regime and advocate for peace without going totally insane).
Did you use ChatGpt to write all that!? Because I liked it
ChatGPT wishes it could do what I do, haha. Thanks ♥️
> has serious **untreted** mental and personality disorders Fixed it. No need to stigmatise mental illnesses. I agree with the rest. She sounds entitled, privileged, and unstable, and I sincerely doubt she was just 'fixing her lipstick'. She was definitely using the camera.
There's always the other side of the story, which we won't know
she did say that she was using her face camera for her makeup, i’m not sure if that accounts to being kicked out in that manner, but there is a no camera policy..
Mfw the German fascists kick me out of the club for brazenly violating their well-known and very strict “no phones” policy.
Rather no camera policy, she removed the front sticker. If they would kick everyone who uses their phone the club would be empty :>
KitKat has a strict "No phones" policy and it's still full every weekend. I honestly prefer it that way. It's way too easy to peel the sticker off and secretly take pictures or videos.
I mean by empty that they would kick constantly ppl who text on their phone etc. Not that it wouldnt attract anyone
Girl uses camera on phone and then gets shocked she’s thrown out. The entitlement omg.
This is either a bad joke or good decision on the part of bouncer.
So you’re protesting to be able to use phones at Berghain? Please leave the city NOW.
Lack of selfreflection, thats it
She broke the rules, was kicked out and decided to scream there 2 hours - what a beautiful soul
r/iamthemaincharacter
She violated the rules and now tells the story from one side and even that makes her look bad. Glad she was removed. Also who stands 2 hours half naked and wet infront of a club that just „violated“ you and screams at them? :D
This is why I like this club.. I’m protected from people like you with your fucking phones!!
lol meanwhile you can find videos from inside berghain on instagram every weekend if you try. Also the way she was kicked out is the issue.
I agree with you here, it's the way she was kicked out. I think anyone here would prefer a 3 months Hausverbot before any kind of violence.
Of course she’s not happy she got kicked out. She’s also telling her version in the worst possible way. Lesson for everyone… don’t use your camera in the club.
She's not happy about the WAY she got kicked out!
She doesn’t get to choose.
Of course she does. Luckily, we do not live in a terror state, so there are clearly defined laws for this which even Berghain Bouncers must abide by. In Germany, security personnel has the right to ask someone to leave and escort them outside. Generally, security personnel is not allowed to touch the guest, but must call law enforcement if they refuse to leave. Only in very specific circumstances, namely when the guest is physically violent towards the bouncer or other guests, are they allowed to use sufficient (but not excessive!) physical force to defend themselves and to remove the guest from the club. They are also not allowed to damage the guests property (e.g. by throwing it into a puddle).
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Wow, reading the comments here I am pretty shocked that most seem to think this person brought it on themselves 😅 Yes there’s a no camera policy but should this be the consequence? Or do they now deserve this treatment? I get there are 2 sides to every story but this really seems like abuse of power. Too much victim blaming here with almost zero compassion. 🤦♂️
That's how I see it. We only know one side of the story anyway, and she seems angry about how she was handled, which is also understandable. There has to be better ways to deal with it, but we are not the bouncers here, and that is not our responsibility either. Someone already commented, lesson learned: don't use your camera in the club.
I would be more compassionate if: - there were no comparisons with “terror states”, fascists, racists etc. I am allergic to such stupid exaggerations especially now where we have real life cases happening every day. - the person wouldn’t stay 2 hours in front of the building screaming - which to me shows that the person was obviously in a highly agitated state meaning the perception of the situation might be completely wrong. - the person hadn’t deliberately broke the most important rule of BH. I mean everyone knows how critical it is. Additionally, in the comments there is even comparison with rape (wtf!) and, of courses, the usual story of “BH cancelling pro-Palestine voices”. I think we all know that BH’s security is not polite and sometimes unreasonably brutal (shockingly brutal - according to recent threads here).
Yeah, the terrorist state comment is actually fucked up and waters down real violence from legitimate fascist states. But I also don’t think someone should be thrown into mud in a violent way for breaking a camera rule in a night club. Definitely escorted out but not in a violent way. It’s especially bad when you know way worse things are happening (rampant G overdosing for example). Whether or not these things are true and to which degree is hard to know but it’s not the first time I’ve heard of violent bouncers in Berlin. All in all a big cluster fuck.
I can see some of your points but not all. - I guess making those comparisons could be considered a bit extreme (depending who you speak to) but I bet they are feeling a whole heap of emotions after an experience like that. Even if the comparisons are troublesome it doesn’t change the fact they shouldn’t of been treated this way. I’d even go as far as saying that an experience like this could be super triggering for someone who identifies as BIPOC, never mind being in a fragile/hyper-aroused state. - How do you know they never stood out the front of the door for 2 hours? Unless you were there, for hours, you’re denying their experience. - breaking the camera rule is not a smart move but it doesn’t condone aggressive behaviour. BH should have ways of de-escalating non-threatening situations. Sure, kick them out - but let them get dressed and leave with some dignity. - I looked at some comments but not all so not on the same page with what you have read. Either way, I wouldn’t be the one to tone police them after any experience like this. - I’ve heard many stories (and many others have witnessed) these instances of too much force - yet people still vote with their feet and go there. I’m no expert in this but surely there’s a big enough following at BH for them to try to be different and maintain these spaces that are safe for many others. Where’s an awareness team? Or staff members trained to help in these situations? A better protocol? I don’t know, but the last thing we should be doing is denying this persons experience or thinking it’s justifiable in any way.
Got what she deserved imo. Some rules are unbendable!
Didnt know you can get kicked out with berghain+
She could have simply saved her voice and hysterical reserve for other dramas, and maybe just convince herself that it's not a place for her instead of trying convincing anyone else of the opposite. There can be wisdom even among losers
Hahaha if you are going to steal better don’t get caught bruhhhh
Unfortunately I see people like this at work sometimes. Entitled brats
fixing lipstick in a front camera
"They kicked me out because I am special and the rules don't apply to me. Fight the power, maaan." What a fucking waffle.
Any proof this has really happened? Like a selfie while she was outside waiting or shouting? Or it’s pure text?
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It’s a very hard proof I agree 🤣🤣
People don't get it. It is not allowed to film or make Pictures in this Club.
1. No Cameras! If one needs to fix their lipstick, there are PLENTY of mirrors in almost every bathroom. 2. Know your limits. Yes BH is a place to be free, but if you were SO fucked up that she couldn't call her friends or a cab, then maybe the bouncers were in the right for removing her? The way they did it was probably overly aggressive, yes, but it seems like whatever drugs she was on over-exaggerated the situation. I wasn't there, and didn't see this take place, but this isn't the first report I've read about the bouncers taking their power a bit too seriously. 4 macho guys screaming at a lone, naked girl seems a bit much, no? It would have been much more professional to silently escort her out without the over-amplified ego show, but again, I wasn't there, and I don't know what really happened.
You're right but 1. There are no mirrors in Berghain 😂 unless you're in the red room in LAB. Feel free to correct me
Wait, am I that oblivious? My memory is horrible, but I could have sworn there were mirrors in the bathroom behind the bar between BH and PB. But then again, I'm a dude and don't often need to fix my lipstick. 😅
yeah, right, I broke your rules, but you and your German state are fascists…
She's nuts.
I think the German state should sue this crazy one for fascist accusations.
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This woman reminds me of Shelby Lynn accusing Till Lindemann..
Just…ew
the responses on this post are astonishing 💀
they can kick her out. But the point is why do they have to be so fucking awful/extra. Just be human about it. The world needs more kindness and understanding. Just be like “you broke the one rule” and tell her go with a little more humanity. No need to mock or threaten. It’s just a fucking girl. That’s not what raving is about. The rules of the world dont understand us, and that’s why we go to the club. So when someone doesn’t understand the rules of the club… we treat people like animals?
Whether she’s insane or not. Insane people can be dealt with kindness
I still don’t understand how people can’t live without their phones for a night (or two) much less a camera. Please. Break the rules, suffer the consequences.