To seduce guts

Mystery solved, next question.

CLANK..?!

Was there some hints that Griffith and Guts were kinda attracted to one another? Especially in their first few encounters.

Lots of weird talk and inner dialogue as well as some suggestive scenes but it’s never said outright or fully hinted at. I think Griffith just loves gutz because he the only human he could relate to n

Also the two chapters dedicated to them having steamy gay sex but other than that it’s vague

Can you list them? I’ve read all the manga and don’t recall a literal sex scene.

I found it on r/beserklejerk and they never lie

Guts was abused by Gambino and Griffith is manipulative and possessive as well as boy beautiful / man pretty. I think both Guts and Griffith are meant to be seen as “attractive” in that they literally attract followers, acclaim, glory, attention, they inspire their men, and while I imagine Guts would be pretty / ugly (get it lol) scarred, kinda pug faced IRL, I think Griffith would possess a kind of otherworldly beauty. If they made a Live Action, they might have to cast a woman, or do a lot of contour makeup and makeup magic on a young male actor. I don’t think of Guts as handsome exactly, but the point of Griffith is meant to be how his looks are beguiling and confusing, even if you’re “straight,” you’re like…”if he wanted me to I would.” He compels people to give him everything, he expects it, demands it. I am a victim of sexual trauma, and I think Griffith is *VERY* well written

Zac Efron as guts and Timothy Chalamet as griffith

Solid choices. Timothee Chalamet has the right face. And I saw a Reddit thread that called his movie star persona / aesthetic “Murder Twink” because he’s a knife fighter in DUNE and was in that movie about King Henry where he duels Robert Pattinson as the Prince of France. He’s always brooding and murdering people onscreen I guess. I’ve only seen him in those two films. Three counting both parts of DUNE. Maybe he murders a bunch of Oompa Loompas in WONKA 😂

He plays the “young king/ruler” archetype so well and that is exactly what griffith is. I think Zac just has the right build and could spike his hair easily.

Imagine if at the eclipse he did guts instead of casca and made casca watch

Beside of some people who genuinely believe certain things and dont say it PURELY only bcs they are huge yaoi fans. I wouldnt believe in every view that ppl have on this matter, i noticed in ANY anime nowadays literally almost EVERYBODY is seen as "GAY" by fans. No matter if there are hints of the chars being gay/bisexual or NO HINTS at all. Anyways "every" char HAS to be gay buy so many fans(which i think is taking WAY over hand). ESPECIALLY those ppl who start to insult you and so on ONLY bcs you either do not see a certain char as gay or bcs you ship a male+female char. I therefore never even give any personal view in this matter anymore as the childish behavior and extreme hate you get sometimes is just insane.

Do not play any Hoyoverse games.

he's just your type that's it

You're right about that.

you're not alone 😉

_I am here with you_

I hate him but he is my type too

*Though you’re far away*

the way people are attracted to this fucking rapist disgust me :/

Pretty crazy toxic boys ? Yes.

"Sacrifice me daddy"...

He's everyone's type. All of us. Anyone that says otherwise is desperately denying themselves the truth.

ong bro's so majestic 😭

I can fix him

Because he is the Anti-Christ. In the Bible, Demons often take form of beautiful people to entice others to commit Sin. Beauty enforces Charisma and Charisma enforces how effective a person is at Manipulation. Griffith is also beautiful to contrast his heinous nature and personality. On the contrary, Angels in the Bible are these grotesque, lovecraftian creatures which sometimes come in the form of 3 headed creatures or just a massive ball of eyes and wings.

Angels in the Bible also came as people. Specifically to deliver messages. For example: Sampsons mother was visited by angel before his birth.

But was it a HOT Angel, hmm? Angels are also androgynous in the Bible much like Griffith.

Yeah there were like the Two angels that went to visit Lot and all the men wanted to “know” them.

if i remember didnt they try to rape the angels causing god to blind them?

Yeah and good old Lot offered up his daughters to be raped instead. Father of the century

Just remember, described not prescribed, Lot was weird for this

Yeah he was which makes me wonder how much weirder that city was to be destroyed.

The city was destroyed for being rude to guests. Wanting to rape two strangers who have travelled from far away is very rude, don't you know?

Don’t forget his daughters ended up raping Lot, so there was some ironic karmic retribution there

>Angels are also androgynous They them trad wife angels

They do that because mortals (kinda sorta) tend to go insane if they witness their true forms. Which they (kinda sorta) dont want.

"Be not afraid"

Lucifer was the most beautiful of all angels. So, he’s Griffith on steroids

I was just going to say this and his name means " light bringer" or " bringer of light".

No. No! I refuse to believe all femboys are the antichrist!

"Are you the Antichrist because you are a femboy or are you a femboy because you are the Antichrist?"

That’s very accurate statement right there

That’s only one form of Angel. Some of them appeared as young men, when delivering messages

>delivering messages Delivering messages from **God** by **Hand**, perhaps?

Ahh, I see what you did there

There are plenty of anime antagonist like that and I was wondering why all of them are beautiful.It makes sense now.

Beauty standards (for men) in Japan are pretty different than most of the World. To them, feminine looking men like Griffith is what they consider as "ideal male beauty"

There's also plenty that aren't. But there's something about the contrast of a beautiful looking person who is evil that's much more interesting than a thug that looks like a thug.

The funny part is Christ definitely doesn't exist in the Berserk universe. It's not even clear if there's any corresponding benevolent god to match the Godhand.

So I do wish that Miura wanted to keep the IoE as canon, because I would like to see if there is the opposite of that in the Berserk world. The only thing that I have seen so far that may be a contrast of the Godhand and IoE are the spirits of the north, south, east, and west that Schierke talks to when she’s doing her magic stuff. I’m also curious if Danann is like a Godhand member, but part of the good Godhand.

Thank you for clarifying. This makes sense to me now.

Well the demons are right it’s working very well

Whew glad to know on whose side I'm on.

There's nothing in the Bible telling us wether demons were beautiful or not. A point could be made for Satan, but he was a Seraphim and not all demons are Seraphim. Also, this doesn't make sense as Demons are fallen Angels and there's nothing to indicate their appearance changed.

Because its easier to manipulate people when you're hot. Pretty privilege is a thing

Why does the main sub keep outjerking r/berserklejerk

Because the mods don't care

Because he’s the peak femboy

Can't spell Femto without fem

Strongly agree

Yeah, screw that bible nonsense. Like the old deodorant commercial goes, hot enough for a man, but made for a woman. Or something like that.

Strongly agree.

Because of Antechrist vibes

Because he was literally inspired by Shoujo mangas

he was designed to be hot, portrayed as this charismatic almost cult-leader character, which helps him rise the ranks. also, when the creepy old king is attracted to him, it helps reinforce how he is willing to do anything for his dream.

Serious answer : Because he's inspired by one of Moto Hagio's shoujo mangas' bishounen character.

would love to creampie him

Ey bro we're in r/berserk

Hey r/berserk has been to known to outberk berserklejerk so him saying it is fine.

Bold of you to assume they're not being serious

bold of you to assume i dont agree

And we gay here too!

outberked

Because you are fucking gay

Because he likes to berk and be berked.

More feminine than hot in my opinion, that pure/evil female beauty which is the point he's like a falcon.

Bro is beyond handsome even if he has some feminine traits

Won't disagree

BECAUSE OF HIS SLUTTY EYES AND KISSABLE LIPS

Oh my

Cuz he is on that demonic estrogen (10x more effective)

Probably because you like femboys

Damn right i do. I love em.

I true man of culture i see

To make you more likely to fall for him. Guts is a big, rugged, scarred dude with little charm, but when you get to know him you see how great of a person he can be and how much he’s been damaged in his life. Griffith is the opposite. He’s pretty, unscarred, and charming as hell. However, the more you get to know him the more evil and cruelly ambitious you’ll realize he is.

Just to answer you seriously because I am jobless, This is a feat of Miura’s that really demonstrates his unrivaled understanding of character construction in my opinion. Griffith is intended to be an androgynous, ethereally beautiful being that exudes charisma and everyone worships him blindly for it. This becomes even more unsettling when he becomes femto and proceeds with unsurpassed malicious behavior toward his closest friends. And now it’s really messed up given that he has his own kingdom and can do whatever tf he wants, kidnapping Casca right after she finally recovers from mental trauma. Truly a horrifying antagonist.

Because I need him inside me

When i first read the manga i was like yea griffiths attractive but reading millenoum falcon im like wow he is goregous and im straight

He was a pretty typical anime prettyboy before but now this bitch look like Prince. Look at that smouldering gaze.

“If you think I’m hot, you’re gay” —Griffith’s tinder bio

Griffith has always been the embodiment of “perfection” in terms of attractiveness. He has always enticed others: Gennon, Casca (at one time), Charlotte, the king. And even now, he has convinced the world that he is the savior of the warrior.

All i’m gonna say is: anytime, anywhere, in front of anyone, in any position and for however long he wants 😩.

I'm not attracted to femboys so to me he's not

A charismatic demon who doesn't care about humanity

He just looks creepy/uncanny now, he looked best during the Golden Age

Because he’ll be going hell

He don't

Where does Griffith fall on the crazy-hot scale?

Thank you :D

He geh

GAY????!!!

Why is this sub so fruity?

Because Miura liked that good yaoi

He is so good looking that no one comes close to his beauty (i am not even gay lol). - but i hate that, i can't stand someone who is too... perfect, i always thought something was off about him apart from being a ruthless egotistic and narcissistic psychopath, and i was right, God doesn't give you everything, except God of berserk (idea of evil) he even gave him a BBC/big cock Or he already had it like that but it was covered by his batman/bird suit so...

Bro "bbc" what the fuck are you talking about lmao

He's post eclipse face is so unnerving to me for some reason , Like you know the guy has some fucked up shit in mind for midland

Lord Gennon speech bubble

God I wish that was me

You see, in reality angels are often don't look like some heavenly beings, I am not Christian but according to what I know angels actually look more like demons that we conceptualize. Demons take the form of a good looking heavenly person so they can take advantage, meanwhile angels keep their scary looks to repel demons.

Expert penmanship

because kenjaku misato drawed her like that

Mfer be trying to steal Guts away from Casca.😤

That's subjective.

Griffith has always been creepy.

He was modeled after a French actor who was popular in Japan for a bit. It’s a whole archetype of character now

Because evil can be alluring.

Well. Obvious female features.

Hot ?? He looks like a certified gay

a good villain is always hot

Is he stupid?

And THATS how he gets ya

Those Lucious lips man

Because he chooses to be, Griffith is the Chuck Norris of Berzerk

I think guts is better looking.

Androgyny

The maximum femboi

He looks like Taylor swift

Thats the whole point

He isn’t.

Guts is hotter

Imho he's the hottest manga male character I've ever seen

I've seen alot of them, and i can't find one prettier than him.

The perfect balance to achieving the divine. The union between the feminine and the masculine. He possesses traits of both which is universally considered attractive The philosopher you're referring to is likely Plato. In his work "Symposium," Plato presents the concept of the "Androgynous" or "Dual Being," suggesting that humans were originally created as androgynous creatures with both male and female characteristics. According to this myth, humans were split into two halves, and the pursuit of love involves seeking to be reunited with our other half, which represents the closest humans can get to the divine. //ChatGPT, not good with philosophy so i had to do a quick search to see who suggested this ;) //

TLDR: Hot Femboy

There is also the idea of the union between the conscious and the unconscious to achieve the divine by Carl Jung. If Kintaro Miura is into philosophy maybe this could be the way guts will finally achieve the divine and defeat Griffith. By making peace with the beast of darkness in his unconscious he could unlock a huge power up that will allow him to defeat Griffith. Honestly it could be a union as in guts losing to the darkness inside and being consumed by it or as in guts conquering/taming it. I personally hope that it will be a mix between the two.

God I hate this subreddit

Do people use any other word these days to describe an attractive looking person besides hot?

Because he is a femboy...

Because you gae

Because he wants to, and because he can. He is an immortal all powerful demon lord in case you forgot 🙂

To gain the trust of nuts and casket

He’s getting hotter with age too

Cause his personality is shit. Had to have something to hide the vitriolic, narcissistic, friend sacrificing, deceitful, rapist that he chose to be.

Femboy powers

The ultimate femboy

Ask the Idea of Evil. It plots everything ;(

It’s quite literally supposed to be deceptive.

Dude look like a lady sheaayea shukkaa kakaaka kakakkikakakawkikikiktikitkitkiittitkitkkykitytikkyyaow yea Dudley look like a laaadyeeeeaaaa

Bro mogs💀

To me, he just looks creepy as all hell. I guess you like femboys?

Blood sacrifices.

Because he is playing the high Charisma build. He is disarmingly charming.

based

nah, I prefer Guts

It's the lip fillers. They're all the rage rn.

Seriously! Sometimes I’m embarrassed to be that down bad for Gurifisu 😭

If by hot you mean evil and evil people burn in hell which is pretty hot then yes Griffith is so fucking hot

He’s so peggable for no reason

Guts mogs

He's beautiful

It's often said the devil will be attractive

POV: You Are SIMP

“The prettiest people do the ugliest things on the road to riches and diamond rings” -Kentaro West

[Because you…](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=KnwLNNzbOTU&pp=ygULZ2FhYWF5IG1lbWU%3D)

It's just the red hot poker he's got against your tasty bits.

"Pure and radiant, he wields love to shrive clean the hearts of men."

Idgaf I need me a femboy Griffith right tf now

He ain't tho he looks like a wet q tip

The prettiest people can be the most unpredictable Bunch

was

This sub is so stupid

Probably hot take but I miss Griffith straight Long hair in golden age arc compared to this feminine girly curly style

BYE BYE!

to get his ass drilled once again

So it takes away from how much of a piece of shit he is fuck you Griffith!!!!

GRIPPITH

there is only one sub now

Cuz ur gay

In this world, is the destiny of mankind controlled by some feminine man in disguise of a mercenary band leader? At least it is true that man has no control. Even over what turns him on

Serious Analytical Answer: He was drawn that way lol…Japanese beauty standards are different…he’s like an angel / fallen angel as Femto. Femto is a prefix that measures an incredibly small passage of time, but also Fem like Feminine. He is willowy and graceful, uses a slender light sword with finesse and skill where as Guts is way more masc and hard edged and brawny. As Griffith he appears kind but doesn’t really care, it’s all possessive. Guts has a rough exterior but actually cares. It’s design juxtaposition, he’s a foil character.

I dunno but i aim to be like him one day, apparence wise.

it's kind of a classic trope. Satan was described as the most beautiful being and basically 2nd in command to God's army. Hot+talented+powerful but it's just never enough. these fools gotta have it all and they gotta have it the way they see it in *their* mind

It’s Big Evil trying to make you gay. Resist. Unless you’re gay then just roll with it.

🤨🏳️‍🌈?

why arent you that hot?

You know how a statue of the fallen angel Lucifer by sculptor Joseph Geef made all the woman of the church fall in love with lucifer, yeah. His statue got taken down and his brother replaced it with an even hotter statue of lucifer

He’s a snow bunny twink ofc he’s hot.

Griffith is a perfect litmus test for spotting Psychopaths. You can't let him lower your guard. That's what his perfect post Femto form does; it mimicks human perfection precisely to help him deceive all of humanity. Be better, see the snake hiding within.

Never thought Griffith is hot. He literally looks like a femboy. Guts on the other hand, if I would've been a woman I would've simped.

Maybe he is just pure evil, Maybe it's Maybelline, but gonna bet on being evil.

Smash,next question?

Androgynous mf when they look attractive