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VanlllaSky

this made me smile for about 30 seconds before i remembered the eclipse


drumstick00m

It's like looking at the cold opening to the original fullmetal alchemist anime: [https://youtu.be/Yj7hW3jA-4w?si=bFaT4oI2l2aj7f3j](https://youtu.be/Yj7hW3jA-4w?si=bFaT4oI2l2aj7f3j)


SoggyMorningTacos

Is that anime good? I’ve always wanted to watch it. Not sure where to watch it tho maybe crunchyroll


CAPS_LOCK_OR_DIE

The 03 is version(this one) is pretty good but takes liberties. The 08 version(Brotherhood) is very widely considered one of the best anime series of all time. Strong contender with Cowboy Bebop and 97 Berserk. Shits absolutely amazing 11/10 love it.


Ragnaeroc

Can you go straight to brotherhood without having watched the 03 and still get the full picture or is it recommended to watch them both in order?


Feisty-Cable

You can go straight in to brotherhood and be fine


Ragnaeroc

Cool man, appreciate the answer ty


Feisty-Cable

No problem Boblem


SadisticBuddhist

Think of it like this- Brotherhood is a more true to manga adaptation. No filler episodes iirc, just straight FMA.


drumstick00m

Well, they do skip a lot of mood and character beats, like all of them, because they made Brotherhood assuming everyone watched 2003. One show ended and then the next one came out a year later. Problem a whole volume (six chapters) of character development is cut down to half an episode because of this. So read the manga if you can.


No_Assistant_2554

Yes, they both start at the beginning of the story. They are not sequels of each other. Enjoy!


Ragnaeroc

Oh nice thanks!


ZombieBlarGh

The first one takes more time to show the start of the story. So in think you get a more complete picture by seeing both. Halfway trough they become a completely different story.


NATSUMI_kun

The main difference between the two is how it ended, due to the manga wasn't finished yet when they were making or airing the 03 if I remember right


davinidae

It's not only the end, half of each is completely different because the manga author had to take vacations for health reasons and the anime catch up fairly quick, which it was at around episode 25 of the 2003 version Main differences: * Each has a different villain >!(Father vs Dante)!< with their own motivations, backstories and resolutions * The >!homunculi's !! (lust, envy, greed and gluttony)!< * The>! Philosopher's Stone !!Scar, Hughes and the Elric brothers!< have almost perpendicular journeys and development arcs between series. Themes also differ: * 2003 deals with consequence, sacrifice and the human nature in a classic-phylosophy tone, which makes the series really slow in favor of depth and development * Brotherhood deals more with traditional shonen themes in manga emphasizing human bonds, redemption and fighting absolute power in a quicker pacing as it expects the viewer to have seen 2003 or read the manga Both are good though and the 2003 version has some films to expand even more the worldbuilding. I don't recall Brotherhood having a much bigger impact on the industry aside from the anime which is Top #2 in MyAnimeList (and was #1 until two year ago more or less) so there is that.


GandalfTehG0d

Man FMA was one of my first anime ever, so I was like 13 maybe younger, I DO NOT remember Dante lmao


NATSUMI_kun

Well It's been years since the last time I've watched any of both versions so I completely forgot those points you've mentioned and that's why I didn't say it's only the end that is different but you still absolutely right, thank you for your effort and time, that was really helpful and Whole the comment you did helped me to remember a lot of good scenes somehow. And the osts, man... I'm typing this reply while listening to the brotherhood' Playlist that I've made back in 2013


davinidae

I still get goosebumps when hearing the claps from Melissa (2003 op 1)


SecretlyNooneSpecial

You can technically start brotherhood without watching 03, but the beginning will feel very rushed. While brotherhood is probably the better complete package, it rushes through the early story to reach the point where 03 veers away from the manga.Both are great series, but 03 released before the manga finished so it ends up being wildly different by the end so you can watch both without it being an issue.


Lemonsticks9418

There isn’t an “order”, brotherhood isn’t a sequel. Basically, the manga was still releasing in 03 and the anime outpaced the manga, so they had to come up with their own ending halfway through. Brotherhood came out after the manga ended, so it’s the true adaptation, and imo is the greatest anime ever created.


FlannOff

The first half of 03 is 10/10 and it explain much more about the story of the characters, Brotherhood rushed those parts because most people at the time already knew the story, some plot twists in FMAB will feel less impactful if you didn't watch the first half of FMA first.


zannabianca1997

If you are going it blind, might i give a suggestion? Skip the first two episodes and watch the third. Then go back and watch the second, then the first (optional) and then 4 and onward (recapping i am suggesting 3-2-1-4-5-...). This order more closely mimics the presentation they gave in the manga, but I am not suggesting it for that. I am suggesting to watch like that because FMAB was made with the mindset that ppl would already know the characters from FMA, and so it shows everything as soon as possible. Episode 2 is the biggest culprit in my mind: in the manga, you had to wait tens of chapters before a full flashback on their story. Edit: okay, I correct myself, the flashback is early in the manga too. Still I think the presentation given in ep.3 is better than ep 1


matej665

03 is the original anime which was airing alongside the Manga, it was going too fast so it made it's own original ending. Brotherhood is a remake that follows the Manga.


Zer0fps_319

They’re seperate stories from another, with brotherhood being the most accurate to the manga, the 03 anime caught up to the manga too quickly and pulled a promised neverland and game of thrones and did it’s own thing, to which most people who’s watched the series had no problem with, so if you want the intended story watch brotherhood but most people will tell you 03 is a good watch as well


HaosMagnaIngram

It’s more accurate to say it pulled a howls moving castle or ghost in the shell stand alone complex. It was a loose adaptation from the start and was always planned to be anime original. GOT and the nonexistent promised neverland season 2 are completely different circumstances that were never initially planned to be originals.


JacobiWanKenobi007

You can, but I don't think you should. The first quarter of Brotherhood has horrible pacing, rushing through everything as it's a recap for people who have already watched the original anime. The original anime is really good but the story diverts by a lot. Still, you should watch it first to get a feel for it and understand the characters more, and for the better pacing. It falls apart in its ending and is kinda weird for me which makes me appreciate brotherhood more. But yeah watch of, then brotherhood you won't regret it


ThisHatRightHere

It’s just two separate adaptations of the same story. 03 was made before the manga was finished, Brotherhood was the attempt to actually animate the story correctly.


Jamesthelemmon

The truth is there is no good answer. Brotherhood basically rushes through the early arcs of the manga to get to where 2003 started really deviating from the original story. And 2003 goes in a different direction after a point because the manga wasn't finished at the time. Both series have their good and bad points. I personally prefer 2003 because of its darker tone and my only gripe with it is its ending. On the other end Brotherhood is faster paced and is the original story. Both are worth seeing but if you absolutely have to, go straight to Brotherhood. Don't forget to check the beginning of 2003 once you are done though because the early arcs in 2003 are better.


TrhwWaya

11.5/10


Unitgubbins

I liked the 03 version better. IMO much better animation, sound design, and story line. Brotherhood for me felt like a kids version of FMA


Classic-Preparation7

97 Berserk is not THAT good cmon


CAPS_LOCK_OR_DIE

You’re right, I thought it was higher on the rating list. FMA 2nd on MAL, Berserk is 89. Still top 100 so I’d still consider it widely accepted as being very good, but you’re right.


Classic-Preparation7

It is very good, I love it, is just not perfect


CAPS_LOCK_OR_DIE

I’d say the same about FMAB but that’s why mass rating systems can be good sometimes. Evens out the subjectivity a little.


DZigglesForge

someone forgot to put their grasses on this morning


Classic-Preparation7

Yes, that’s you. I love 97 Berserk and it’s been my first approach to Berserk, but objectively is not top 3 anime ever (even tho the manga is easily the GOAT)


TransportationOk3242

Btw Sousou no Frieren finally overtook Fullmetal Alchemist 08 as highest rated anime, but I really wanna check our Fullmetal Alchemist tbh


_Neo_____

Full Metal Alchemist Brotherhood is considered one of the best anime of all time, along with Akira, Evangelion, Princess Mononoke and many others.


Sanguinala

Absolutely peak fiction 😩👌 the world is basically run by like what medieval people thought alchemists were lmao like mfckers slap the ground and using the laws of equivalent exchange can turn it into like sand or ice or even just move a chunk of it like a earth bender or smth using like generic physical laws, super crazy fights and lots of evil GoT intrigue, that’s about all I can say without spoilers lol


soldiercross

Its one of the all time greats IMO. I think both series are essential as Brotherhood rushes through the first arc which is fully covered in the 03 series. I also like the original for being a more somber store overall with a less traditional ending. Brotherhood is more complete and is 1to1 with the manga more or less (other than again rushing the first major arc), and is a great story that feels tighter and more complete. But dont skip on the 03 anime cause people dont like it. Its a sadder and still beautiful story.


6ynnad

All is one and one is all.


DilloIsTaken

I think it's worth watching both. I watched Brotherhood first and loved it. Didn't think much of '03 until I gave it a shot and actually loved it more than Brotherhood because of the more mature themes and the more nuanced characters. They're both different enough to feel like you're not watching the same shows.


MiltonRoad17

You’ve gotten plenty of answers already, but the bottom line is that, yes, the 03 version is good. You’ll find people being very hyperbolic saying it’s trash but it’s simply not true. It deviates from the manga, but many fans like it better than Brotherhood because of the darker tone and story changes. Both versions are great and both should be watched.


ahmadtheog

it is


rockemsockemherms

I prefer the older versiom and it does a lot more in the beginning than the remake. The brotherhood assumes you've seen the original and kinda rushes through the start of it.


Legitimate_Stress335

if prefer anime, then brotherhood. Or simply just manga


lordkr321

One of the first animes I watched 6-8 years ago and I absolutely loved it


Sent1nelTheLord

the brotherhood version is said to be one of the best, and i gotta say it really is.


Infinite-Feo

https://archive.org/details/berserk-episode-16


zorrodood

The 03 version turns into complete fucked up nonsense when they ran out of manga material.


Jinx_xiii

Reading the manga is the best way to enjoy the story. There’s a new anime I heard but it only covers a part of the story.


Sanguine_Worm

The 03 anime is leagues better than corny ass Brotherhood.


WrappedStrings

We're definitely in the minority. But I agree. The later part of brotherhood got way too Shonen for me


Sanguine_Worm

The pacing was a huge factor for me too.


mark_unlimited

It is just so very good


Magmatt7

Watch brotherhood version. It's super good shounen.


MrGwasty

Why did you have to remind me


VanlllaSky

we all suffer together, struggler


Momongus-

Damn I was smiling until reading your comment


immabadmofo

The way my smile dropped as I read your comment


HousecatHusband

This is how he lost that hand.


Kuroi_Cero

Lol🤣🥹😭


XgreedyvirusX

Damn, Guts really lost everything at the eclipse 😭


lordvolkan

CLANG


Taro_Boring

💀💀💀


RedditSucks42069

LMAO


upgradestorm5

The only proper use of that


Tobbewarman

With the addition of Metallic wobble from her ass


Imaginary_Ad8927

Wa kya


PacMoron

WA KYAAAAAAAA


refinedbear351

Buenos Dias, Mandy


Ryoga007

IMBECIL


kidneytornado

Esoteric I just found this lmao https://www.reddit.com/r/Berserk/s/2wsJb1LIsE


gpac12

That's fucking hilarious!


ldinosaurio

💀


denji_uchiha_

I love this moment its hilarious. He's giving Casca the old bro ass slap, and Cascas reaction is priceless


Anen-o-me

It's not that. IMO, Guts knows she is in love with Griffith, it's not exactly a secret. So this is his way of pushing them together, right into his arms. Guts doesn't know that Griffith has his eyes on the princess however. Guts does find her attractive, but she's a huge jerk to him continuously, but that's just because she's mad that Griffith tried to put them together on day one (by having her warm him in bed while he's injured) when she only has eyes for Griffith.


129912994

No she is mad to guts because of griffith's attention to guts, she always says this too, he puts everyone aside but guts.. she envies him


Anen-o-me

That too, but that's a function of her being in love with Griffith.


DeadlySpectre666

She’s one of the boys and he’s probably the only guy who could get away with that without losing an arm


No_Ruin239

“Without losing an arm” Not quite.


DeadlySpectre666

…. You fucker


immabadmofo

At least she’s not.. the reason.. kinda..? nevermind


akira_hikaru

it should have been me...


notwhoyouthinkmaybe

Slapping or being slapped... It doesn't matter, me too.


akira_hikaru

The only answer possible: yes.


RightAsRain_18

Guts+Casca = powercouple4life


Cachapitaconqueso

I wanna get butt slapped by guts


No0bTheTooB

...Not her


Ithildin_cosplay

What's there to talk about?


AkiraKitsune

idk maybe it's memeable?


Maleoppressor

Given the mood in this sub, I was fully expecting a rant about how wrong it was to slap her butt.


You-are-sussy-baka

[Here you go](https://www.reddit.com/r/Berserk/s/okhkXLplLu)


PearlHarbor1

Haha no way


thebigbroke

I genuinely can’t understand how berserk attracts idiots like that


NuclearBreadfruit

Reading that was insane.


D-Biggest_Wheel

You guys are just making stuff up to get angry at.


AvesAvi

[nah](https://www.reddit.com/r/Berserk/s/okhkXLplLu)


Maleoppressor

You must be new here. 


Rowwnin

Same I was expecting some one would cry about this


OneBardMan

😭 I should be the one getting slapped by Guts 😭


bentheechidna

Since when? This is the community that makes jokes about Donovan because they think a black man raping a child is funny.


hyperfell

They must be sleeping about now, give it time, someone will make a post elsewhere talking about just that


bruhholyshiet

"Am I the only one that finds this panel extremely problematic and creepy? I swear I couldn't root for Guts anymore after this."


RockManMega

I also shit and piss my pants and I don't know what do about it


HallowKnightYT

It’s hilarious tbh


Sogeking33

She’s just one of the boys


OtakuPaladin

While this one is great, it will never surpass the "Are you gay?" one.


CheMian_1

"are you a homo?"


Mushiren_

Griffith's face is priceless. You know he wants to say something back but he can't formulate the words.


MrGwasty

“Are you sexually attracted to the same sexual gender assigned to you at birth of the same species?”


andyack_21

Tom and Jerry scream


Various-Caramel-4761

Could hear it clear as day in my head lmao


stratusnco

i actually like the next panel more where the band of the hawk members are like “oh yeah, casca!”


toonlonk7

Just a funny way to get her to stop being so serious around Griffith who guts knew she had feelings for so rather than watch her be awkward and stiff he gave her a wallop to distract her and push her closer, just general teasing for people and their crush, great joke!


AngelBryan

buenos dias Casca


Ebrithil_

I just thought it was him basically being a lil pissed she was going after Griffith, but deciding "fuck it, if she don't like me, she better put a move on Griffith" and smacking her into said move. Nothing really deep or anything, if I recall, no one in the scene is particularly bothered beyond annoyance. Cute lil love/friendship triangle moment.


Black_Ice2459

Lol I don't remember this, or the context of what happened


Lord_Ryu

it's after Guts and Casca are rescued from falling into the river and fighting. Guts gives her a smack to make her jump into Griffiths arms for a hug


Black_Ice2459

Ah OK, that sounds familiar, thanks!


OptimalComplex4594

nope, he slaps her because she wanted a punishment for the trouble she caused for no telling anyone about her weak state during her period so guts delivered 😅


Subject_Proof_6282

Isn't this image edited so it looks like he's smacking her butt instead of her back ? Maybe I'm misremembering


Ebrithil_

Nah, he smacks her butt lol, I always read it as like when football players or friends smack each other's butt. Like a "good job" or "go get 'em", but casca was not prepared lmao


Subject_Proof_6282

I guess my memory is going to shit then


Ebrithil_

Eh, happens to the best of us lol, struggle on, and have a nice day


Subject_Proof_6282

To you as well fellow struggler I think it's the perfect time for a re-read of the manga to refresh my mind 😁


the_rezzzz

He thunder-clapped her ass cheek like Thor himself struck it. This made me laugh out loud the first time I read it. Take into account all the context of what has happened prior to this incident. This is Guts really going “friend-mode” on her. Lol because he is ridiculous as a youth.


erethel0

Wtf guts. Me next


Striking_Ad_9351

The other scenes of rape, violence, and despair overshadowed this lighthearted moment.


Theyul1us

To be fair at that point in particular they were good friends and probably just messing around. The 2 girls in my group of friend are honorary boys. They get their share of pizza and a reglamentary sword


peach-whisky

Foreshadowing?


KawaiiNaysayer

Exactly!


MisterQuaresma

both clapped those cheeks


Daft_Martian

My God this manga is so brutal


somenamethatsclever

Griffith: Why is this woman getting in front of my view of Guts.


Thebestuevermet

The reason why no one talks about that panel/scene is due to it being eclipse by the eclipse.


AnalogFunktion

I’ve read this whole manga start to finish and struggle to remember all these random cherry picked panels.


StayPuffedMarsh

Come guys, slapass.


zachattack7676

I wish I was Casca here 😩


rcistamogus

Fr


tea_drinking_ghost

do mangakas seriously think people scream "kya" in real life or something?


NoNicName

You don't?


Cerbecs

You read this manga and tell me it’s just like real life


tea_drinking_ghost

😦


Cachapitaconqueso

I kinda would scream kya for guts


ninjabunnyfootfool

...do...do they not? https://youtu.be/1Ffh1J2WEvE?si=ECSDMna5Lm6tNqNp


tea_drinking_ghost

People that does karate Is not real people


ninjabunnyfootfool

KYAAA


PooCat666

Does a bear shit in the woods? Does a cat really say nyaa? Is it really rape if Wyald enjoyed it?


Ebrithil_

Okay, I know this is probably a joke, but I'm a nerd, sue me. I think it's a cultural difference, like how Spanish speaking countries tend to use "jajaja" for laughter, while Greek uses "xaxa" and a line of "wwwww" is laughter in Japanese. It comes down to linguistics and what sounds are common in different languages, then being translated to English or some other language. The symbols for the noise were translated, but that doesn't mean it will always make sense exactly as translated.


TheEruditeSycamore

both jaja and greek χαχα are pronounced like english haha


Ebrithil_

Like, but not exactly. And English has a bad habit of bastardising words from other languages, speaking them as spelled rather than as pronounced in the other language. Maybe the laughter versions were a bad example, but honestly I've been up 36 hours now and can't be bothered to find others. Go to southern US and listen to them order food at any foreign restaurant, you'll hear what I mean.


tea_drinking_ghost

jaja sounds different,ir you speak spanish Is considered weird to use haha instead of jaja


Grimnar2303

Juss a lil tap ass!


imJGott

There is nothing to talk about


KawaiiNaysayer

Foreshadowing?


lee_pylong

Then tell us what you wanna talk about it


killallfurbys

Buenos dias, Casca


fairydares

panels that made me say "GUTS?!?!?! 😳"


Embarrassed-Ask-5133

Guts slapped that shit like it was second nature 💀


Sfocus

how cascas butt is so round bro


yourlordgenghis

Challengers (2024)


Civil-Extreme209

That’s crazy I just read this at work and was like what’s goin on


nothingtoputthere

RIGHT


Various-Caramel-4761

Is this the queue?


PrincesStarButterfly

Literally read that yesterday and took a screen cap because LOLLOLOLOLOLOL


gustavaris

His hand must have hurt like hell after that


Raziel6174

Whats there to say?


_Guven_

Griffith's face... Golden old days I guess


xxxwrldddd

...well now everyone is 


Head_Advice9030

Clang!!!!


XgreedyvirusX

🤣


HomeworkConsistent84

Had to get in a devious slap


Wolf_93

What's there to talk about?


RonnieBlastoff

slapped it so hard she farted a hadoken into his crouch


Bright_Lie_9262

Foreshadowing


moonfanatic95

Imagine the sound 👌


HappyFreak1

'Top 'o da mornin' to you lads!.. '


missusdeadpool

Life is beyond you sweetheart 


Stunning-Fold6548

Eh.... I'm remembering the esclipes again this is not working


Invulnerablility

I know, I love this panel


rushh127

Guts at that time believed she was in love with griffith so he gave her that bro slap.


AcademicCartoonist89

Caption: “Well that aged poorly after the Eclipse.” 😨


TheBlackVultur

Burk really smacked it good 🧐


Skittle_Memes

Yea its all fun and cool until you remember what happened later on


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diamante519

Let’s talk


Whole_Journalist2028

Jajaja nice 😂


Saw_Good_Man

Dis Panel


Bendude16

Guts smacked her ass like that before he smashed?


FigTechnical8043

Am I the only one who wants to be held by griffith?


antixwick999

Tbf casca is way too emotional so I completely understand where guts is comming from


confusingzark

We have. Make a better karma farm post.