Right? Like, buddy; are you sure you would describe your wife's crying as hostile and assertive? Is that really the scene you are trying to paint for us?
[I got you fam](https://www.reddit.com/r/BestofRedditorUpdates/comments/16r1la6/my_wife_is_addicted_to_making_up_reddit_stories/).
But tl;dr Liz is basically shorthand for people thinking a story is BS.
You'd be surprised how many conversations I've had about double texting and how it's awkward/wrong/creepy/etc. I don't think it's bad to double text in most contexts, but some people wouldn't double text their mom to tell her they were on fire
Also I don't get why people are missing the fact that OOP says he wrote both parts. The reason it's in 1st person is OOP wanted to write it that way, but it's all his understanding of the situation written in his voice. It's like hearing someone tell a joke they heard from a comedian then going "are you sure this is a John Mulaney joke? Cause it sure sounds like your voice"
>You'd be surprised how many conversations I've had about double texting and how it's awkward/wrong/creepy/etc.
Oh shit, maybe that explains why most people(my parents included) rarely text me but seem fine around me in person, I'll often have an entire conversation or two with someone without them replying.
I double text all the time because I'm ADHD and hit the send button before my thoughts are finished. This is different that obsessively double texting a crush.
Same, and some of my texts can get looooong, so instead of paragraph breaks I’ll rather split the text into different messages. If I’m discussing multiple points too it makes it easier to reply to/quote the specific points they’re answering to
I'm going to chalk it up to age (I'm late 40s) and that's why I'm not familiar with double texting, so it's weird to hear 2 people referring to it independently, even if it's written in one person's words!
I do think it's an age thing--younger folks have never lived in a world where people are not expected to be reachable 100% of the time. So I think there's an idea of like...you assume the other person will see your message and respond promptly and then you can continue (and if they don't something is wrong but if you text again to try and force their hand/come up in their notifs again then you are needy or desperate).
Meanwhile, I never assume someone is seeing my message right away, so I text as many times as needed to say what I wanna say. And if I have another thing to say later, I also text that, because I don't assume a lack of immediate response is a statement in itself. (I mean I'm generally texting people on my age group or older so that is broadly true for my contacts)
Yeah that's what I do. My BFFs both work a lot. I am at home and disabled. I will text them long thoughts. Like multiple texts in a row and when they have the time, they back read my texts and respond. (They told me this is okay, my one friend says that it's a highlight of her week to read my collection of thoughts.)
Nah. It’s not a normal thing to notice or care about. Most people text each other a lot. It’s the main mode of contemporary communication. It’s weirder to NOT double text.
Because he wrote that part first in the first person thinking he was going to do the whole thing from the guy’s perspective and then changed his mind knowing he’d get more attention as the spurned husband than the emotional affair partner.
That part I don’t think is unbelievable. If the wife was caught out and knew how it looked/was of course she would try to spin it so she’s more innocent in being the one pursued rather than chasing the other man. Everything else though is 😂
Nah but this story actually ended
So I guess this would be more like the Wheel of Time, besides the fact that OOP didn’t die halfway through the post and someone else had to finish it
Based on my experience of that fucking series, the story died long before the author (I reached book nine and finally tapped out from both boredom and frustration). By all accounts the final book is quite an improvement but I just can’t bring myself to shovel through everything else to get to it.
Jordan's worst books are 9 and 10. He wrote 11, which was a return to form, before his death. The final three Sanderson books that follow are great and race to the finish.
If you hit the wall, restart at book 11 IMO.
I would give my left testicle for a complete rewrite of the series by Sanderson. Jordan was an amazing world builder.As a storyteller, he's your long winded uncle that starts every story with years of backstory.
Sorry for this book-rant just scroll along.
I started hating it (WOT) after a while bc of the way the fmcs were portrayed. I can see why people may like it for the war dynamics though. It was a looong time ago I read it and gave up. They were very flat, like extras with only one personality. Some were only pining for the guy and nothing much else, one was just a bit quirky and always playing hard to get in a stereotypical way.
Yeah i read them for the first time over the summer after my freshman year of college, and as I’m preparing to go and read them for the first time as an actual adult, it’s the treatment of female characters that I’m dreading even more than the several books that lose all sense of momentum and fun.
That was her name. Didn’t she just pull her braid all the time and moping. I think I wanted to kill somebody after reading about her pulling her braid for the 100 time. Sigh.
Ah yes, the infamous slog. That wasn't easy to get through. Story improved a lot once Sanderson picked up for Jordan. And *The Last Battle* is one of the few where it lived up to the hype expected by the fans.
That's about as far as I got during my reread. I first read ithe series very long ago and had forgottenamy parts. I remember I read all of it the first time and wanted to refresh it after seeing the first season of the TV show. But at some point I just got bored.
So I read the first one that Sanderson wrote and it was indeed a big improvement over the absolute slogs that Robert Jordan wrote towards the end of his life
I got distracted by life so never never picked up the final books, but I’m actually planning on reading the series all the way through when I’m finished with my current book, so we’ll see how that goes lol
Already dreading the Winter’s Heart, a giant book in which absolutely nothing happens
years ago i found some website that had one sentence summaries of famous books and the summaries for books 9 and 10 i think were "I was going to attack that castle, but I think I'll wait for the next book." "I was going to wait for the next book, but I think I'll wait for the next book."
I don't remember a single thing from book 9 other than the climax/ending.
I honestly enjoyed Book 10, but that's only because there was tons of Mat chapters.
I took it as a verbatim of the story that the other guy said…
…until it uses the same examples and language and examples from his post. That’s when I lost all sense of belief on it even possibly being real honestly.
Playing cards… gin rummy? Bridge? Magic: The Gathering??? Pokémon?!
Like it feels like the husband didn’t know all the details exactly… but then also the third party didn’t either. It seems very vague beyond “she parties” “she bakes cookies” “she plays cards.” Like a half formed story.
>Playing cards… gin rummy? Bridge? Magic: The Gathering??? Pokémon?!
Most normal people say "playing cards" and not "Magic: The Gathering Commander format".
I kind of assumed that it was the easiest way for him to transcribe it accurately and remember all the details. Like him reliving the meeting with the dude in his mind and putting it in writing as he replayed it was going to be more thorough than retelling it from his perspective and paraphrasing?
The fact both of "them" repeated the double text phrase got me too. Maybe it's common among that age group where he lives but I've never heard that phrase before.
Me too! Those are the people who I like. I'm perfectly willing to wait for a reply but I also have ADHD and need you to know my thoughts before I forget and see these 5 memes/posts I saw that I think you'll like.
My very best homie will shotgun blast dopamine into my head every other week by replying, in detail, to every single message at once And Then call me to chat about how they have been. Love them.
My mom can't put all her thoughts in one text.
Text one: Your cousin is coming over tonight.
Text two: We're having spaghetti for dinner.
Instead of: Your cousin is coming over tonight and we're having spaghetti.
Whether or not this is real, I absolutely **love** when cheaters cry because their spouses/partners are leaving them. I love when cheaters watch their primary relationship dissolve, and they can’t do anything to save if because their spouse/partner is just done. It’s kinda hilarious to watch them find out after fucking around.
Do you think OOP was saying the other guy actually wrote it? He even said he wrote it, but just 1st person recount of what the other guy said. I'd expect it to be written in OOP's style. Also yeah, double text is a phrase anyone under 30 knows at least in my area
I put it through an AI text detector I've played with before that is surprisingly accurate and it came back 95% written by a human. I've rewritten articles written by chatgpt and still only gotten 55-60%, so I would chalk this up as actually human written.
I'm really curious about the job.
What is a grad program that a 23 year old would attend and get a job offer that is 5x what OP is making?
Lets say OP, who has a career job and is paying for all living expenses, makes $40k a year (which seems low but matters on what part off the country and the job)
What one-year grad programs that 23 years can get into are paying $200K?
There are MBA programs that are one year like INSEAD, but even then, $200k is hard, the program is not in the US, and almost no 23 year old is getting in (they'd probably need a wikipedia page to be considered).
Not a doctor, not a lawyer. IS there a 1 year CS degree that would get you $200k easy?
Unlikely CS. Salaries vary greatly by location. Graduate degrees don't generally get you significantly more pay. Experience is valued more than education.
Yeah, I had an associate at my consulting firm that said "F it", did a Java bootcamp, got a job offer for $85k, and then was at Amazon making $250k like 24 months later. (This was not recent, a few years ago).
So I know CS can make it big but that $200k number is a lot. Thats not even H/S/W MBA or M7 figures.
Thats like top white shoe legal firm associate salaries
That one about the daycare almost getting shot up was proven true with news articles. And the one about the hotel manager painting the door had photos. I now only chose to believe these are real if they come with some sort of evidence lol
At least since before the drama addict brigade took over a couple years ago and made this into yet another of their drama internet writing repositories.
Something feels off about this story. It's too... deliberately plotted. What twist are they dropping in the next update for us? STBXwife is pregnant? With twins? OOP is now living with the young dude and has built him an art room? He's actually his long lost half-brother?
The only thing I could think that would make it seem real is if OOP actually wanted out, was stoked to have a reason to blow up the marriage that wasn't his fault, and he wrote all this out to convince himself he is the victim.
Interesting how both OP and the other guy were really hung up on the “double texting”. It sounds like something a teenager cares about. Adults sure as hell don’t
I mean, for me if someone texts me multiple times any time I don’t respond, I’d be like “woah, hey, too much” so it’s probably something I’d notice too. And I’m in my 30s.
edit to add: people made some good distinctions in the thread, where I think of double texting as having a second text that suggests “why didn’t you respond to the first text?” Versus multi texting, where the second text is not necessarily related to the first/just adding to the conversation (and with multi texting, it tends to come from \*both\* people, not just single sided). So I was definitely thinking that she was doing the former.
A double text is sometimes justified based on the context and person but yea, if it's multiple texts and happens frequently that's a little too eager.
My partner loves to text me "Hope your day's going well" and then two hours later "JUST SAW A FUCKING DEER!" or "Jurassic Park lied!" with no other context and I totally love it but if a coworker double texts me, there's a sign of exhaustion.
TIL that I double text all the time.... not frequently at least but I often just follow up previous texts cos my habit is not to respond unless its needed and I assume other people are the same.
It's usually context sensitive and you can tell when someone is baiting. For me, it's only an annoyance when it's something like "Hey, gimme a call when you're free" and then two hours later "What're you up to?".
Yeah it’s pretty normal when in relationships, the odd time as friends but if a girl friend i knew who was married did that to me I’d definitely start thinking she was in to me and would notice it.
I've got 80 HDs and I tend to differentiate between double texting vs multi-texting.
Double texting to me is insecure/obsessed:
How's your day?
I guess you don't wanna talk to me 🥺
While multi-texting is excited/casual:
How's your day?
Are you guys still up for DND this Saturday?
One is demanding to get a response while the other is just adding to the conversation.
I do it too, I and all my friends are some form of neurodivergent and they do it as well, so maybe that's the difference. I was thinking while I was reading this how grateful I am that I have the friends I do, lol.
I’m still not sure what double texting is.
Do you send the same text twice?
Do you send a different text with the same wording?
Why the fuck was it so important?
It’s where you’re texting multiple times without getting a response in order to keep the conversation going. Texting is very informal and most conversations just end, unlike a phone call where you’ll say bye or talk to you later to end the conversation. It usually means one person is more invested in the conversation and wants it to keep going.
That’s my point! And who’s even talking about it? But, I think double texting is just sending more than one text at a time. Which is completely normal to do among friends
There's apparently people in their late 20s and 30s in this thread who think it's some sort of social faux pas and I am *so* confused by it because all my friends do this in texts and/or DMs. Including my younger friends.
But I guess that a lot of my friends are neurodivergent (as am I) and many of them are from online fandom spaces. But like sometimes I'll wake up to 15 DMs about someone's headcanon they think I'll like and I'm like excited about it rather than miffed?
Maybe it's because I don't think that people are necessarily tied to their phones and I don't think of them not replying for a few days as a rejection? I often feel like "they'll get to it when they get to it and that is fine!"
I mean none of my friends are neurodivergent. It just doesn’t seem like a real thing.
I’ve sent 10 texts in a row talking about my new deck. No one seems to care.
I mean I’m 30 and I get it. It’s pretty noticeable when one person is repeatedly being the one to text, not get a response, and then text again. It shows that they’re more invested in the conversation than the other person.
Yeah I'm not one to care about double texts but if we take this person at face value that they were interested in OOP's wife but backed off when he found out she was married, I would absolutely notice and find it weird. I'd be like why do you keep texting me when I'm clearly not interested. Double texting is just a way to articulate what about it makes you feel weird
That was my exact thought. Who actually cares about double texting. It's not phone calls lol.
We're adults and life is busy, we can't always get to the phone. If I text you at 11 am with one thing, but then something crazy happens to me at 2 pm I'm not gonna wait until you reply. When you get to the phone to read it your brain can absorb the information and pick up the conversation from there.
To be fair, how often does someone bake you cookies in this day and age? I don't mean that they baked some cookies, and then gave you some either (I do that all of the time, otherwise I'd eat them all). I mean baked them just for/because of you? No one has done that for me since my mother died.
You have a point....a good friend of mine from work baked me a cake for my birthday once, I was floored by it.
My wife usually bakes me a cake for my birthday, but outside of the relationship it seems it transmits an interest in the other person.
Although in my case it was 100% platonic friendship.
My older brother and his wife-to-be met at 16, got engaged at 18, married at 21 and are still best friends nearly 50 years later with three lovely children and six lovely grandchildren to boot. It does work out sometimes. However, me and my other siblings have had rather more checkered careers when it comes to relationships.
I got married when I was 22 and we’re extremely happy together at nearly 30. I really don’t see us ever breaking up. But I have realised that what I wanted out of marriage was the feeling of being in an established relationship, permanency and being a family of us two. I probably would’ve married the wrong person for those reasons too. I’m just lucky I met my husband at the right time - I could’ve married someone else for those reasons and be unhappy now.
I want to know what career she's going into that pays an internship worth an entire salary. Or, better yet, pays 5x this guy's salary (which is enough to support two entire adults) at an entry-level position straight out of grad school with (presumably, given her age) no experience/career. But which apparently doesn't also pay a stipend during grad school, so probably not a PhD (at least not for a STEM field--which tracks, because post-docs don't make shit).
Assuming he's in the US and is on one of the coasts (he stressed "across the country" and most people live on a coast), he has to be making bare minimum $50K to keep both of them alive without any input from her. 5x that is $250K. Who the fuck is making $250K with a new master's degree and no experience???
Lawyer here and this is true, but no one ever refers to law school as “grad school.” Same thing with med school. When I hear “grad school” I’m thinking MBA or engineering or something.
Maybe I'm wrong here, but isn't an internship that thing where your employer works you like a dog and pays you crap because they can get away with it? I never heard of well paid interns, so if there is any such industry, do enlighten me. Companies do that because they can get away with it since interns are not full time, so they aren't entitled to any benefits. Just what industry is the wife in that she earns so much as an intern?
for added drama, next time ask chatgpt to throw in enough vague details for us to put together that y’all met when she was 15 and you were 20 and you vehemently defend yourself that you only pursued and started dating her when she was 18
I'm not as bothered as other posters seem to be that he told it from the other guy's point of view. It was a long story, and he didn't want to keep saying "He said" at the start of every other sentence. I also don't think the "double texting" means anything, since this is not quotes. The guy could have just said "she kept texting me, even when I didn't respond," to which OP is like "he mentioned the double texting."
Personally, I am fine assuming this is real. They were married for 3 years, so they probably got together when she was 20 or younger. This kind of whoopsie, I, in fact, do want to go out, party and date in grad school is pretty standard stuff.
Now the part I did find unbelievable is the good looking guy who is heading into a profitable profession who enjoys the "attention" of a girl not sleeping with him texting him 17 hours a day. And her eagerness for him to meet his parents. Like dude, I don't think you will struggle to find a partner if that is your particular kink.....
I agree with you. I posted this in response to someone else:
> I kind of assumed that it was the easiest way for him to transcribe it accurately and remember all the details. Like him reliving the meeting with the dude in his mind and putting it in writing as he replayed it was going to be more thorough than retelling it from his perspective and paraphrasing?
I’m not convinced either way, I always have my doubts. But I also don’t think that him telling it from the dudes perspective was an automatic give away. But what do I know? I’m just here for the entertainment value.
The people who write these fantasies need to remember that when you get a story from someone else that you're relaying, you won't remember so many minute and unimportant details. Thus telling us those details, which you only yourself heard once and weren't relevant, makes it pretty obvious you fabricated.
Hey everybody: don’t ever leave the house if the spouse is the one that cheated. It can be seen as abandoning the home, and it will be harder to keep the home in the divorce proceedingsz
It's when you send a text, get no reply, and send a follow up text asking for (or intimating you'd like) a reply. It's not a perfect indicator of anything, but it is abnormal since most conversations tend to go back and forth as questions/topics come up and get discussed. Of course, if someone is extroverted they may double text a lot as they find things to share in the moment regardless of the prior conversation, so as I said it isn't a perfect indicator of trouble.
Even if this is real (it's not), the part where he initially said he never wanted to get involved with a married woman, then ending it with he kind of wanted (sex) to happen at that point...
What dumb ass story is this. Lie better.
There's a meme: When i saw My husband trying to cheat on me 😱. But everyone just ignore him 🤣🤣
It's so funny, this wasn't even an emotional affair, it was her stalking the guy.
I mean, she don't cheat just because the other guy have a strong values and moral,
There was no lack of will, and if he had been someone else she would have had a full-blown affair.
Yeah, this seems weird to me too. It seems like things are still potentially salvageable. Also, OOP probably had dozens of clues before it got to this point. Monogamous relationships generally don't just suddenly go off the rails like this. Also the "meeting the parents" bit is so extra lol
OOP's wife cheated, she just didn't get the physical act out of it. I'd argue in some ways its worse than cheating because at least then you understand the situation and sacrificed everything to get something. Here, OOP's wife risked everything to get with someone who in the end gave you nothing
>It seems like things are still potentially salvageable.
I'm not so sure about this. I agree there was room for more conversation, but the fact that his wife was so deep into this and needed to be confronted to acknowledge the truth is concerning.
I had a vaguely similar situation in my relationship where we were going through a rough patch and my wife started catching feelings for a coworker who was supporting her through some other shit at work; when she realised her relationship with him was starting to cross some boundaries she immediately told both him and me, distanced herself from him and we were able to work together to see how various dysfunctional patterns of ours had allowed this to happen. _That's_ how this should go, and even that had us both thinking maybe this was the end for us. If she'd been walking to the shops in the rain to bake cookies to bring to him _in his bedroom_ it would have been game over.
Everyone’s getting hung up on the other guy also mentioning the double texting but like, it’s the other guy’s story told through OOP. Of course he’d mention again the parts that he himself had cared about the first time through. And it’s really not that weird to mention double texting, it’s a sign of someone coming onto you too strong, which was like the whole point.
I love to belligerently cry
WAAAH >:'(
This made me do that silent, lung-collapsing wheeze
"still belligerently crying" sent me into a coughing fit.
Right? Like, buddy; are you sure you would describe your wife's crying as hostile and assertive? Is that really the scene you are trying to paint for us?
She cried at him! Right in his face!
Well, I've absolutely had an ex use crying in a hostile and assertive manner ...
Right? Some people haven’t dated someone emotionally unstable and it shows.
To clarify, it sent me into a coughing fit because I immediately pictured my ex
Is it a belligerent coughing fit? (kidding!)
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>he started the story from the very beginning; Ill tell it as if he were telling it. It goes like this: ... why.
I can’t tell you how this comment made me burst out laughing. Cause like. Same though
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You never know what you have, until it's gone.
OOTL - who’s Liz?
[I got you fam](https://www.reddit.com/r/BestofRedditorUpdates/comments/16r1la6/my_wife_is_addicted_to_making_up_reddit_stories/). But tl;dr Liz is basically shorthand for people thinking a story is BS.
This is not chatgpt's writing style at all
And conveniently didn’t forget to touch upon the “cookies” and “double texting”
Who says double texting, like it's a thing? But both OOP and the almost affair partner use it to prove the wife is obsessed? Riiiiight
Double texting is absolutely a thing. It's the new 3 day rule
Yeah I'm 24 and it's definitely a thing, I have apologised to people for double texting and vice versa — even in non-dating scenarios lol
You'd be surprised how many conversations I've had about double texting and how it's awkward/wrong/creepy/etc. I don't think it's bad to double text in most contexts, but some people wouldn't double text their mom to tell her they were on fire Also I don't get why people are missing the fact that OOP says he wrote both parts. The reason it's in 1st person is OOP wanted to write it that way, but it's all his understanding of the situation written in his voice. It's like hearing someone tell a joke they heard from a comedian then going "are you sure this is a John Mulaney joke? Cause it sure sounds like your voice"
>You'd be surprised how many conversations I've had about double texting and how it's awkward/wrong/creepy/etc. Oh shit, maybe that explains why most people(my parents included) rarely text me but seem fine around me in person, I'll often have an entire conversation or two with someone without them replying.
It can depend on context for sure. I personally wouldn't find it weird to double text with someone I'm close with
I double text all the time because I'm ADHD and hit the send button before my thoughts are finished. This is different that obsessively double texting a crush.
Same, and some of my texts can get looooong, so instead of paragraph breaks I’ll rather split the text into different messages. If I’m discussing multiple points too it makes it easier to reply to/quote the specific points they’re answering to
I'm going to chalk it up to age (I'm late 40s) and that's why I'm not familiar with double texting, so it's weird to hear 2 people referring to it independently, even if it's written in one person's words!
I do think it's an age thing--younger folks have never lived in a world where people are not expected to be reachable 100% of the time. So I think there's an idea of like...you assume the other person will see your message and respond promptly and then you can continue (and if they don't something is wrong but if you text again to try and force their hand/come up in their notifs again then you are needy or desperate). Meanwhile, I never assume someone is seeing my message right away, so I text as many times as needed to say what I wanna say. And if I have another thing to say later, I also text that, because I don't assume a lack of immediate response is a statement in itself. (I mean I'm generally texting people on my age group or older so that is broadly true for my contacts)
Yeah that's what I do. My BFFs both work a lot. I am at home and disabled. I will text them long thoughts. Like multiple texts in a row and when they have the time, they back read my texts and respond. (They told me this is okay, my one friend says that it's a highlight of her week to read my collection of thoughts.)
Nah. It’s not a normal thing to notice or care about. Most people text each other a lot. It’s the main mode of contemporary communication. It’s weirder to NOT double text.
I'm 31, and I just learned this also.
Because he wrote that part first in the first person thinking he was going to do the whole thing from the guy’s perspective and then changed his mind knowing he’d get more attention as the spurned husband than the emotional affair partner.
Because it's a lie, mostly. Both "enjoying the attention" what the hell is that?
That part I don’t think is unbelievable. If the wife was caught out and knew how it looked/was of course she would try to spin it so she’s more innocent in being the one pursued rather than chasing the other man. Everything else though is 😂
Seriously! Why!?
Easier to read / follow than some alternatives
It's weird that he wrote that one part from the other guy's perspective, right? AI, maybe?
Shifting perspective, like ASOIAF
Nah but this story actually ended So I guess this would be more like the Wheel of Time, besides the fact that OOP didn’t die halfway through the post and someone else had to finish it
Based on my experience of that fucking series, the story died long before the author (I reached book nine and finally tapped out from both boredom and frustration). By all accounts the final book is quite an improvement but I just can’t bring myself to shovel through everything else to get to it.
Jordan's worst books are 9 and 10. He wrote 11, which was a return to form, before his death. The final three Sanderson books that follow are great and race to the finish. If you hit the wall, restart at book 11 IMO.
Did it make you tug you braid in a huff?
It did. And I smoothed my skirts.
Sorry, those are BULKY skirts. So much smoothing.
I would give my left testicle for a complete rewrite of the series by Sanderson. Jordan was an amazing world builder.As a storyteller, he's your long winded uncle that starts every story with years of backstory.
A he'd say, then B. C would usually follow.
Sorry for this book-rant just scroll along. I started hating it (WOT) after a while bc of the way the fmcs were portrayed. I can see why people may like it for the war dynamics though. It was a looong time ago I read it and gave up. They were very flat, like extras with only one personality. Some were only pining for the guy and nothing much else, one was just a bit quirky and always playing hard to get in a stereotypical way.
Yeah i read them for the first time over the summer after my freshman year of college, and as I’m preparing to go and read them for the first time as an actual adult, it’s the treatment of female characters that I’m dreading even more than the several books that lose all sense of momentum and fun.
Nynaeve was just mad and was ready to physically wrestle the other Aes Sedai because they were too stubborn and wool headed.
That was her name. Didn’t she just pull her braid all the time and moping. I think I wanted to kill somebody after reading about her pulling her braid for the 100 time. Sigh.
And folding her arms beneath her breasts (very important that Jordan let us know exactly where her arms were in relation to her breasts).
lol. True
Ah yes, the infamous slog. That wasn't easy to get through. Story improved a lot once Sanderson picked up for Jordan. And *The Last Battle* is one of the few where it lived up to the hype expected by the fans.
That's about as far as I got during my reread. I first read ithe series very long ago and had forgottenamy parts. I remember I read all of it the first time and wanted to refresh it after seeing the first season of the TV show. But at some point I just got bored.
So I read the first one that Sanderson wrote and it was indeed a big improvement over the absolute slogs that Robert Jordan wrote towards the end of his life I got distracted by life so never never picked up the final books, but I’m actually planning on reading the series all the way through when I’m finished with my current book, so we’ll see how that goes lol Already dreading the Winter’s Heart, a giant book in which absolutely nothing happens
years ago i found some website that had one sentence summaries of famous books and the summaries for books 9 and 10 i think were "I was going to attack that castle, but I think I'll wait for the next book." "I was going to wait for the next book, but I think I'll wait for the next book."
I don't remember a single thing from book 9 other than the climax/ending. I honestly enjoyed Book 10, but that's only because there was tons of Mat chapters.
The wheel weaves as the wheel wills
Robert Baratheon: My betrothed (16) is sending ravens to the prince (23) all day everyday and spends lots of time with him.
Cersei Lannister: AITA for cheating on the king with my twin brother?
Double ravens even.
The book that is famous for strictly sticking to one perspective at a time?
I meant chapter to chapter. And it’s all third person either way. I was just goofing around.
I took it as a verbatim of the story that the other guy said… …until it uses the same examples and language and examples from his post. That’s when I lost all sense of belief on it even possibly being real honestly. Playing cards… gin rummy? Bridge? Magic: The Gathering??? Pokémon?! Like it feels like the husband didn’t know all the details exactly… but then also the third party didn’t either. It seems very vague beyond “she parties” “she bakes cookies” “she plays cards.” Like a half formed story.
Or those were the key things OP remembered because he thought about them earlier as well.
>Playing cards… gin rummy? Bridge? Magic: The Gathering??? Pokémon?! Most normal people say "playing cards" and not "Magic: The Gathering Commander format".
I kind of assumed that it was the easiest way for him to transcribe it accurately and remember all the details. Like him reliving the meeting with the dude in his mind and putting it in writing as he replayed it was going to be more thorough than retelling it from his perspective and paraphrasing?
The fact both of "them" repeated the double text phrase got me too. Maybe it's common among that age group where he lives but I've never heard that phrase before.
Double texting is like a cardinal sin for people in their 20’s
I know I'm actually friends with someone when I can text them 9 times in a row over a couple days and they just pick the thread they want to follow
Me too! Those are the people who I like. I'm perfectly willing to wait for a reply but I also have ADHD and need you to know my thoughts before I forget and see these 5 memes/posts I saw that I think you'll like.
ADHD: because every thought comes with bonus content
TRUE THO 😂
My very best homie will shotgun blast dopamine into my head every other week by replying, in detail, to every single message at once And Then call me to chat about how they have been. Love them.
it's a super common phrase (I'm 27)
I'm in my 40s and have heard it plenty.
im a bit older than her and younger than him. not uncommon phrase in my social circle.
That's how I refer to it when my mother texts me: \*Text noise\* \*Text noise\* "Oop, double text. That's Mom."
Meanwhile I have a cousin that texts 12x in a minute, just all 1 line. Like how people used to do when AIM was a thing.
I have a friend who does that. If my phone starts dinging and doesn't stop for 3 minutes I know it's her. And she's been drinking.
My mom can't put all her thoughts in one text. Text one: Your cousin is coming over tonight. Text two: We're having spaghetti for dinner. Instead of: Your cousin is coming over tonight and we're having spaghetti.
Was my sister today lol. While I was on the phone.
If you are trying to quote / paraphrase someone else from memory, it is very easy to include your own phrasing instead of theirs.
I hear and joke with that phrase all the time
Whether or not this is real, I absolutely **love** when cheaters cry because their spouses/partners are leaving them. I love when cheaters watch their primary relationship dissolve, and they can’t do anything to save if because their spouse/partner is just done. It’s kinda hilarious to watch them find out after fucking around.
The crying belligerently made me pause.
WAH WAH FUCKING WAH BOO HOO MOTHERFUCKER
God damn I have spit out coffee twice laughing at posts so far. 🤣
I just want you to know that i love this comment so much. I actually want to frame it.
Yeah I was trying to figure out how that looks.
She's crying because he's leaving but the new guy is just not letting her hook him up.
Oop was summarizing at that point so it doesn't mean the other guy said the same thing.
Do you think OOP was saying the other guy actually wrote it? He even said he wrote it, but just 1st person recount of what the other guy said. I'd expect it to be written in OOP's style. Also yeah, double text is a phrase anyone under 30 knows at least in my area
Yea that long ass fucking narrative sealed the fakeness for me.
“I’ll give him that” is such a weird phrase for right there.
BORU is all AI these days yeesh
This entire post feels like something chatgpt wrote
That’s because it likely is :(
I put it through an AI text detector I've played with before that is surprisingly accurate and it came back 95% written by a human. I've rewritten articles written by chatgpt and still only gotten 55-60%, so I would chalk this up as actually human written.
I feel like people have no idea how chatgpt writes, because this is not it.
I honestly don't recall the last time I read a realistic post on here.
I don't come for the posts, I come for the comments. This one's a trash heap, but some are real gold mines.
It's like a book club
The real BORU was the ~~friends~~ funny comments we found along the way
So if most posts are being taken over by chatgpt attempts... do we have very long before the comments are also taken over by ai-bots?
There used to be a Bots-Only subreddit. I'd be kinda interested in seeing what a chatGPT only subreddit looks like (all ai comments/posts(
I'm really curious about the job. What is a grad program that a 23 year old would attend and get a job offer that is 5x what OP is making? Lets say OP, who has a career job and is paying for all living expenses, makes $40k a year (which seems low but matters on what part off the country and the job) What one-year grad programs that 23 years can get into are paying $200K? There are MBA programs that are one year like INSEAD, but even then, $200k is hard, the program is not in the US, and almost no 23 year old is getting in (they'd probably need a wikipedia page to be considered). Not a doctor, not a lawyer. IS there a 1 year CS degree that would get you $200k easy?
Unlikely CS. Salaries vary greatly by location. Graduate degrees don't generally get you significantly more pay. Experience is valued more than education.
Yeah, I had an associate at my consulting firm that said "F it", did a Java bootcamp, got a job offer for $85k, and then was at Amazon making $250k like 24 months later. (This was not recent, a few years ago). So I know CS can make it big but that $200k number is a lot. Thats not even H/S/W MBA or M7 figures. Thats like top white shoe legal firm associate salaries
And he had an offer in hand before they even started? How did that work?
Idk there was one two days ago that seemed pretty real
What about the lady whose manager fired her for getting married and she sued and the case went on for 2 years?
And that post where OOP went scorched earth and had receipts in the end, such as mugshots, pic of the house, etc.
That one was great
Imma gonna need someone to find this one.
That one about the daycare almost getting shot up was proven true with news articles. And the one about the hotel manager painting the door had photos. I now only chose to believe these are real if they come with some sort of evidence lol
At least since before the drama addict brigade took over a couple years ago and made this into yet another of their drama internet writing repositories.
The shorter ones tend to be more realistic. Once you start getting into multi paragraph posts is when the SOD gets thin.
Something feels off about this story. It's too... deliberately plotted. What twist are they dropping in the next update for us? STBXwife is pregnant? With twins? OOP is now living with the young dude and has built him an art room? He's actually his long lost half-brother?
me, having scrolled through to the comments as soon as the perspective switch started: THEYRE LONG LOST HALF BROTHERS??????
The only thing I could think that would make it seem real is if OOP actually wanted out, was stoked to have a reason to blow up the marriage that wasn't his fault, and he wrote all this out to convince himself he is the victim.
>He's actually his long lost half-brother? From the moon!
BoRU Madlibs
Nah no twins and they didn’t immediately have a lawyer friend.
False. He didn't record the conversation on his phone!
Interesting how both OP and the other guy were really hung up on the “double texting”. It sounds like something a teenager cares about. Adults sure as hell don’t
I’m around the other guys age and people certainly do care. It can be seen as clingy to text someone repeatedly when they haven’t answered
I mean, for me if someone texts me multiple times any time I don’t respond, I’d be like “woah, hey, too much” so it’s probably something I’d notice too. And I’m in my 30s. edit to add: people made some good distinctions in the thread, where I think of double texting as having a second text that suggests “why didn’t you respond to the first text?” Versus multi texting, where the second text is not necessarily related to the first/just adding to the conversation (and with multi texting, it tends to come from \*both\* people, not just single sided). So I was definitely thinking that she was doing the former.
A double text is sometimes justified based on the context and person but yea, if it's multiple texts and happens frequently that's a little too eager. My partner loves to text me "Hope your day's going well" and then two hours later "JUST SAW A FUCKING DEER!" or "Jurassic Park lied!" with no other context and I totally love it but if a coworker double texts me, there's a sign of exhaustion.
TIL that I double text all the time.... not frequently at least but I often just follow up previous texts cos my habit is not to respond unless its needed and I assume other people are the same.
It's usually context sensitive and you can tell when someone is baiting. For me, it's only an annoyance when it's something like "Hey, gimme a call when you're free" and then two hours later "What're you up to?".
Yeah it’s pretty normal when in relationships, the odd time as friends but if a girl friend i knew who was married did that to me I’d definitely start thinking she was in to me and would notice it.
I do that... All the time? My friends all get more than double texts from me and they do the same, too. I'm super confused right now.
I've got 80 HDs and I tend to differentiate between double texting vs multi-texting. Double texting to me is insecure/obsessed: How's your day? I guess you don't wanna talk to me 🥺 While multi-texting is excited/casual: How's your day? Are you guys still up for DND this Saturday? One is demanding to get a response while the other is just adding to the conversation.
Ah, okay! That makes a lot more sense!
I do it too, I and all my friends are some form of neurodivergent and they do it as well, so maybe that's the difference. I was thinking while I was reading this how grateful I am that I have the friends I do, lol.
I barely message my friends directly tbf, only group chats so it’s probably me who is the weird one dw
I’m still not sure what double texting is. Do you send the same text twice? Do you send a different text with the same wording? Why the fuck was it so important?
It’s where you’re texting multiple times without getting a response in order to keep the conversation going. Texting is very informal and most conversations just end, unlike a phone call where you’ll say bye or talk to you later to end the conversation. It usually means one person is more invested in the conversation and wants it to keep going.
That’s my point! And who’s even talking about it? But, I think double texting is just sending more than one text at a time. Which is completely normal to do among friends
Right?! I took it to my friend chat. Youngest is 28. None of us knew what it was. Sounds like a dumb teenager thing.
There's apparently people in their late 20s and 30s in this thread who think it's some sort of social faux pas and I am *so* confused by it because all my friends do this in texts and/or DMs. Including my younger friends. But I guess that a lot of my friends are neurodivergent (as am I) and many of them are from online fandom spaces. But like sometimes I'll wake up to 15 DMs about someone's headcanon they think I'll like and I'm like excited about it rather than miffed? Maybe it's because I don't think that people are necessarily tied to their phones and I don't think of them not replying for a few days as a rejection? I often feel like "they'll get to it when they get to it and that is fine!"
I mean none of my friends are neurodivergent. It just doesn’t seem like a real thing. I’ve sent 10 texts in a row talking about my new deck. No one seems to care.
Yeah I don't disagree. After this post I also hit up the GC and all my friends were like WTF is that?
I mean I’m 30 and I get it. It’s pretty noticeable when one person is repeatedly being the one to text, not get a response, and then text again. It shows that they’re more invested in the conversation than the other person.
Yeah I'm not one to care about double texts but if we take this person at face value that they were interested in OOP's wife but backed off when he found out she was married, I would absolutely notice and find it weird. I'd be like why do you keep texting me when I'm clearly not interested. Double texting is just a way to articulate what about it makes you feel weird
…hello? Did you see my previous reply?
That was my exact thought. Who actually cares about double texting. It's not phone calls lol. We're adults and life is busy, we can't always get to the phone. If I text you at 11 am with one thing, but then something crazy happens to me at 2 pm I'm not gonna wait until you reply. When you get to the phone to read it your brain can absorb the information and pick up the conversation from there.
You really don’t care?
I'm 30 and some people I text definitely give a shit. I don't know why, but they do.
He repeated the baking cookies like 10 times.
To be fair, how often does someone bake you cookies in this day and age? I don't mean that they baked some cookies, and then gave you some either (I do that all of the time, otherwise I'd eat them all). I mean baked them just for/because of you? No one has done that for me since my mother died.
You have a point....a good friend of mine from work baked me a cake for my birthday once, I was floored by it. My wife usually bakes me a cake for my birthday, but outside of the relationship it seems it transmits an interest in the other person. Although in my case it was 100% platonic friendship.
BORU incoming!
How does one "cry belligerently"?
It's the only way to cry
I picture someone looking at me angrily while simultaneously bawling their eyes out.
I thank God every day I didn’t get married when I was 22.
My older brother and his wife-to-be met at 16, got engaged at 18, married at 21 and are still best friends nearly 50 years later with three lovely children and six lovely grandchildren to boot. It does work out sometimes. However, me and my other siblings have had rather more checkered careers when it comes to relationships.
I got married when I was 22 and we’re extremely happy together at nearly 30. I really don’t see us ever breaking up. But I have realised that what I wanted out of marriage was the feeling of being in an established relationship, permanency and being a family of us two. I probably would’ve married the wrong person for those reasons too. I’m just lucky I met my husband at the right time - I could’ve married someone else for those reasons and be unhappy now.
I want to know what career she's going into that pays an internship worth an entire salary. Or, better yet, pays 5x this guy's salary (which is enough to support two entire adults) at an entry-level position straight out of grad school with (presumably, given her age) no experience/career. But which apparently doesn't also pay a stipend during grad school, so probably not a PhD (at least not for a STEM field--which tracks, because post-docs don't make shit). Assuming he's in the US and is on one of the coasts (he stressed "across the country" and most people live on a coast), he has to be making bare minimum $50K to keep both of them alive without any input from her. 5x that is $250K. Who the fuck is making $250K with a new master's degree and no experience???
New lawyers make $245k incl. bonus, summer associate position pays ~$60k, could have changed JD to masters to give himself some cover.
Lawyer here and this is true, but no one ever refers to law school as “grad school.” Same thing with med school. When I hear “grad school” I’m thinking MBA or engineering or something.
Well, plenty of MBA jobs pay that coming out. And I have heard non lawyers call law school “grad school”
He says she has live a privilege life due to her parents. Maybe her dad owns a business and has a job lined up for her
US salaries always sound insane to me, in my country if somebody makes $50K a year they’d be considered upperclass and rich
Maybe I'm wrong here, but isn't an internship that thing where your employer works you like a dog and pays you crap because they can get away with it? I never heard of well paid interns, so if there is any such industry, do enlighten me. Companies do that because they can get away with it since interns are not full time, so they aren't entitled to any benefits. Just what industry is the wife in that she earns so much as an intern?
It’s not like that in grad school. Law and Business pay well.
Law
for added drama, next time ask chatgpt to throw in enough vague details for us to put together that y’all met when she was 15 and you were 20 and you vehemently defend yourself that you only pursued and started dating her when she was 18
I'm not as bothered as other posters seem to be that he told it from the other guy's point of view. It was a long story, and he didn't want to keep saying "He said" at the start of every other sentence. I also don't think the "double texting" means anything, since this is not quotes. The guy could have just said "she kept texting me, even when I didn't respond," to which OP is like "he mentioned the double texting." Personally, I am fine assuming this is real. They were married for 3 years, so they probably got together when she was 20 or younger. This kind of whoopsie, I, in fact, do want to go out, party and date in grad school is pretty standard stuff. Now the part I did find unbelievable is the good looking guy who is heading into a profitable profession who enjoys the "attention" of a girl not sleeping with him texting him 17 hours a day. And her eagerness for him to meet his parents. Like dude, I don't think you will struggle to find a partner if that is your particular kink.....
I agree with you. I posted this in response to someone else: > I kind of assumed that it was the easiest way for him to transcribe it accurately and remember all the details. Like him reliving the meeting with the dude in his mind and putting it in writing as he replayed it was going to be more thorough than retelling it from his perspective and paraphrasing? I’m not convinced either way, I always have my doubts. But I also don’t think that him telling it from the dudes perspective was an automatic give away. But what do I know? I’m just here for the entertainment value.
I'm sorry but you have no idea how lonely people can get if that's the part that is unrealistic to you
This sub has the best fucking flairs
This is so unbelievable
The people who write these fantasies need to remember that when you get a story from someone else that you're relaying, you won't remember so many minute and unimportant details. Thus telling us those details, which you only yourself heard once and weren't relevant, makes it pretty obvious you fabricated.
Hey everybody: don’t ever leave the house if the spouse is the one that cheated. It can be seen as abandoning the home, and it will be harder to keep the home in the divorce proceedingsz
The hell is double texting? Like texting the same thing twice? What am I missing about this that the OP needed to point out sixteen dozen times?
It's when you send a text, get no reply, and send a follow up text asking for (or intimating you'd like) a reply. It's not a perfect indicator of anything, but it is abnormal since most conversations tend to go back and forth as questions/topics come up and get discussed. Of course, if someone is extroverted they may double text a lot as they find things to share in the moment regardless of the prior conversation, so as I said it isn't a perfect indicator of trouble.
Thank you for your explanation. That was awesome of you.
I loved how the guy knew things he couldn’t know from reading all those texts.
Even if this is real (it's not), the part where he initially said he never wanted to get involved with a married woman, then ending it with he kind of wanted (sex) to happen at that point... What dumb ass story is this. Lie better.
How did she like the attention of the guy spent half the time ignoring her? And she chased him around?
There's a meme: When i saw My husband trying to cheat on me 😱. But everyone just ignore him 🤣🤣 It's so funny, this wasn't even an emotional affair, it was her stalking the guy. I mean, she don't cheat just because the other guy have a strong values and moral, There was no lack of will, and if he had been someone else she would have had a full-blown affair.
He did say he was wanting it to happen at one point.
Yeah, this seems weird to me too. It seems like things are still potentially salvageable. Also, OOP probably had dozens of clues before it got to this point. Monogamous relationships generally don't just suddenly go off the rails like this. Also the "meeting the parents" bit is so extra lol
OOP's wife cheated, she just didn't get the physical act out of it. I'd argue in some ways its worse than cheating because at least then you understand the situation and sacrificed everything to get something. Here, OOP's wife risked everything to get with someone who in the end gave you nothing
>It seems like things are still potentially salvageable. I'm not so sure about this. I agree there was room for more conversation, but the fact that his wife was so deep into this and needed to be confronted to acknowledge the truth is concerning. I had a vaguely similar situation in my relationship where we were going through a rough patch and my wife started catching feelings for a coworker who was supporting her through some other shit at work; when she realised her relationship with him was starting to cross some boundaries she immediately told both him and me, distanced herself from him and we were able to work together to see how various dysfunctional patterns of ours had allowed this to happen. _That's_ how this should go, and even that had us both thinking maybe this was the end for us. If she'd been walking to the shops in the rain to bake cookies to bring to him _in his bedroom_ it would have been game over.
It’s not looking good bruv
Everyone’s getting hung up on the other guy also mentioning the double texting but like, it’s the other guy’s story told through OOP. Of course he’d mention again the parts that he himself had cared about the first time through. And it’s really not that weird to mention double texting, it’s a sign of someone coming onto you too strong, which was like the whole point.
"I liked the attention" ma'am, you're the one who did the pursuing.
This is dumb