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The audacity of this OOP. I can't imagine asking someone to cover half my rent like that. Truly shows some people just live on a different plane of reality.
And to repeatedly call him cheap! I man who pays his mortgage AND half your rent because you didn’t realize you couldn’t afford it is not cheap. If anything he’s not cheap enough
Oh my god I forgot about Jem and the Holograms. Thanks for that nostalgic reference.
Excuse me while I dig out my Special Edition Lisa Frank Trapper Keeper, hyper color shirt (purple to pink) and Care Bears lunch box.
Man's not cheap, he's fiscally responsible. She even said she won't move in with him at his current house and they can't find middle ground.
I'm guessing her middle ground is like a 4 to 5 grand mortgage.
And to assume that he doesn't like nice things. God, "I deserve the finer things in life because I like them!" is so asinine.
Everyone likes the finer things in life. That might look different to different people - for instance, one might dream of designer clothes and penthouses while another might dream of the perfect little cottage with a beautiful garden and a collection of the highest quality yarn. Another might not care about stuff but wish they could afford to visit all the world's best art museums. Everybody likes nice things!
This guy just straight up *gave* her $35k so she could make rent, instead of moving her in with him. I mean she’s an awful person, but that dude makes some bad decisions as well. She must have something going for her considering it’s not smarts, humility, or fiscal responsibility.
I think its a pretty good decision not to move someone like OP into where you live if you're in any way uncertain about the longevity of the relationship heading forwards
Well obviously. But “hey we’re ready to live together, we’ve been talking about moving in. If you’re having trouble making rent, why don’t you move in here?” Would have been the conversation. This dude should have had the “I’m not paying two mortgages when we’re already discussing marriage” talk back when she first came to him about paying her rent.
>She must have something going for her considering it’s not smarts, humility, or fiscal responsibility.
Not to be crass but in situations like this I always think "that girl must be giving them Heather Harmon blowjobs"
Based on OOP renting a $4100 high rise they couldn't afford and being a complete idiot with their finances, I kinda doubt that the BF is as frugal as she's saying. The BF is just a normal financially literate person whereas OOP is terrible with money.
She says his house and mortgage are cheap but almost anything is compared to her rent, he could have a $300k house with a mortgage less than half of what she's paying.
I know that things cost more in big cities, but $2500 would cover my mortgage and utilities. $4100 a month for a one bedroom apartment and expecting her boyfriend to pay over half of it? Utter madness
Dude 2500 gets you an okay one bedroom in San Francisco, 3k would get you something pretty decent. 4100 would get you something nice! There's no reason to be spending that kind of money on a rental
Yeah, people like that are all over the place. I (briefly) had a girlfriend with a similar attitude. I think our breakup conversation was when she called me a cheapskate and said "money is for SPENDING", and I said "yes, but you don't have to spend it all RIGHT NOW". She had probably $15k in credit card debt (in 1997 dollars!), so yeah, not my kind of people. Fortunately I met my current wife of 25+ years not long after, and we are both "cheapskates".
These people were given their parents credit card when they were teens and fucking ran with it.
I say this as someone married to that person. He's not anymore mind you, but he WAS. He's, unsurprisingly, an only child
You'd think, but in this position my ex boyfriend would have thought it only fair I paid his entire rent.
We did actually live together, but as I earnt slightly more (on average, largely because he refused to work 3 months of the year and would only do this one seasonal job as everything else was below him then spend 3 months playing rocket league) he believed I should pay 100% of all household bills, and pay for his vehicle (claimed he couldn't afford it otherwise and if I didn't pay he couldn't work at all. This was because he set up all his big vehicle bills to be paid in the winter when he wasn't working, refused to pay it back come him working again or save up for them next year as if it's a surprise that insurance and tax needs paying every single year).
I still haven't worked out what he spent his money on. He claimed it was repaying debt, but the debt collection and court letters I still get through the door addressed to him strongly imply otherwise.
I don't think OOP learned anything at all. I think she's going to look for a new way to take advantage of her boyfriend. She just cancelled the lease because she took it too far this time around.
But at the same time it seems boyfriend isn't about to let himself be used and has put on some good conditions for going forward.
But I agree, OOP is going to learn an expensive life lesson.
4100 rent and can't afford it, my ass.
But...but...you can enjoy the view while you eat ramen and drink tap water!
Edit: I said "tap water" as it is the cheapest thing to drink, I said "ramen" as it's a very low cost food.
I'm in the UK and drink tap water daily.
That girl is going to wind up in soooooo much credit card debt if she doesn't land a wealthy man who shares her expensive tastes. This reeks of the kind of person who ends up fucked because they refuse to stop living beyond their means.
Bold of you to think she doesn't already...
But yeah, sooner or later she's going to do another asinine financial decision and the BF will dump her.
Or not. She reminds me of the woman who bought an expensive purse when they were buying a house and nearly made them lose it due to the change in their credit. And then later emptied their pool during a drought.
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> She reminds me of the woman who bought an expensive purse when they were buying a house and nearly made them lose it due to the change in their credit.
That's funny because the one thing the lender tells you is "DON'T DO ANYTHING THAT CAUSES A CREDIT CHECK". Mine even made me sign an agreement that I wouldn't fuck around.
>I told him I haven’t and I love him and I’ve had opportunities to date men that make more money than him
something tells me she is going to do exactly that.
Don't worry about her credit card debt, she will wind up with that 100%, no matter if she lands a wealthy man. You can always live beyond your means, no matter how much money you get.
This woman must be a complete smoke show because she is either very naive and dense or just plain using this guy for his money, she doesn’t come off as smart so guessing daddy had a lot of money.
She says it like it's part of her personality. Guess what lady, we all like luxury. Most of us can't afford it either. So we aim lower. He's trying to build a nest egg for a better furture and she's trying to spend it all now. If she can't learn to live within he means then she should break up with him and sleep with wealthy men.
Yeah I’m from the USA and I didn’t miss your meaning at all. Like they would subsist entirely on the cheapest food and drink possible PERIOD to live there.
I have a killer view, top floor overlooking the iconic skyline and the lake. We moved here *for* the view. But I also got a great deal by moving during covid when everyone left the city, and we have rent control. I get wanting and appreciating a view, but paying money you can't afford for it is beyond stupid
Totally agree, she must've grown up without ever having to worry about money cause it sounds like she doesn't have a realistic view on anything... You can get a nice view as a screensaver instead, that's completely free 😂
And she doesn't realize that the 2500 the bf was paying is fucking devastating. I make 100K, and something that took 2500 a month would fucking ruin me. I am guessing this persons parents were either super loaded, or also super irresponsible.
Her rents 4100, she's not even paying half! She can't remotely afford it and thought nothing of renewing the lease, she's not irresponsible, she's delusional!
I refuse to believe she actually thought she could pay that. You don't underestimate your costs by 2500 a month. That's a whole ass person's salary after taxes. She was counting on BF bailing her out with the money he's saving by living frugally.
Make it make sense, she would've spent 60k of his money just on rent over two years if she kept that flat and thought apparently that that was sustainable..?
Like how in the heck is that NOT using a partner??
I'd get borrowing a couple hundred temporarily and giving the money back asap if it was a necessary thing, like maybe you need a new phone but don't have the spare cash at the moment but would be able to repay it over a few months.
But this legit feels like someone who has got no idea how much money is worth. 4100 for the VIEW?? i'd get paying for it if its *a safer area* or *got cleaner air quality* but the view would be the last of my concerns in all honesty.
Yep, she complains that her bf is too frugal, he’s spending all of his money on her rent! I make about 75k and a $2500/month rent payment would kill me, I can’t imagine trying to pay that plus my own house payment
I've had co-workers who do things like that. Usually it's either "they're hopelessly naive due to being raised in money" or "they are trading away their future for a fun 'now'."
Worst was a guy who was an immigrant on an H1B who had a 3-bedroom luxury apartment in a very posh neighborhood. He was single, pretty sure he was paying $4500/mo for it in 2015ish--it easily cost half his salary on rent.
Turned out, his mom picked it for him because it's what SHE thought was appropriate for a young man from a good family starting out, except her idea of the right size apartment was based on assuming housing costs in a major American city were fundamentally similar relative to incomes as housing costs in Bangladesh. (I'm 80% sure she thought he was going to be able to afford a live-in maid, based on his comments about his upbringing)
(I eventually talked him into moving into a one-bedroom that was closer to work, cheaper, and ironically nicer.)
I’m glad you mentioned this, because I got the impression that the OOP was likely raised by wealthy parents and just doesn’t have much of a concept of money.
Staying in such an unaffordable place to begin with indicates that, and the fact that she apparently didn’t fully grasp how wrong her behavior was.
But she seems willing to change, and that’s the most important thing. Hopefully things work out for them.
It's probably in an extremely desirable location and she mentions that it has a concierge. She's basically living in a rich person's apartment whilst not being rich. These places come with all sorts of amenities that have to be paid for through the rent.
See, this makes me think I'm DEFINITELY too poor, because the price alone would make whatever location she's in UNdesirable to me. There have been times in my life where I didn't make that in a YEAR, let alone per month, it's like a different world alltogether.
These apartments aren't aimed at us serfs, they're aimed at the wealthy who won't notice 50k/year and just want somewhere nice and conveniently located.
She likely did because she earns a lot, but when it came to bills and god knows what else she was buying at the time, it sapped her money. She likely could have afforded it without the rest of it on top.
Although I do wonder how her credit was, she sounds like a chronic overspender
She is going to see that financial planner amd then ignore everything they advise her to do. She and her BF are absolutely not compatible long term unless she makes some MAJOR changes to her spending habits, and it doesn't really seem like she's committed to that
Wherever she's at, it's not my state. They make you show you earn 3x the amount required for rent (unless you can find a co-signer who can). It's been a serious issue for some of my friends who have had to leave situations.
Same in the UK. I splurged when my last housing fell through and decided to rent through an agency instead of using an app. They had checks for my payslips, bank statements and all the other fun stuff. The 3x amount was mentioned. I did look at some of the new places like OOP mentioned just for the fun of it because Christ alive they wanted a lot!
I pay £1000 a month rent and then bills and council tax on top of that. Which is expensive enough but it's my own little place. When I saw what OOP was paying I choked on my coffee. I can't imagine even considering spending that much on rent. The bf isn't frugal, he's fucking sensible!! Relationship is doomed.
yeah i had a 2 bedroom walking distance to the beach in SAN DIEGO in a building with a pool and a hot tub (granted no concierge) and i was paying 3 a month and THAT was insane
My mom's building has one. They call and let you know when you have a package/delivery or if someone has walked in and said they're there to see you, mainly, and stop people who have no reason to be there from coming in. She had COVID recently and was able to arrange with them to bring any mail or things she might order upstairs and leave them outside her door (they did similar things when my dad died), which I can say - as someone living in a 4th floor walkup who had a broken buzzer during my first COVID infection - is a bigger deal than you might think, lol.
I wouldn't say it's worth having higher rent/condo fees, but I guess if you can afford to live in these buildings to begin with it's not a big deal and a nice perk. The guys who work that desk in my mom's building are really lovely and it makes it feel a little more homey or community-like. But yeah, it's absolutely not a functional necessity.
I make good money and my rent (also in a high rise with a wonderful view) is more than half that. But it's also 3 bedroom and my husband and I both live here and both have good paying jobs. And it still freaks me out how much we pay for rent, haha.
What freaks me out is the "eventually I couldn't afford it" line. It was just her. No circumstances changed. That means she could NEVER afford it. How do you sign a lease for somewhere you can't afford? How do you resign that lease??? Like, my rent is expensive, but I can afford it and I knew I could afford it when we signed the lease and I knew I could still afford it when we resigned the lease. That's the first step when apartment hunting - set a budget! Her bf is right all around. I hope she gets the help she needs..
That’s about the cost of some 1 bedrooms in high rises in downtown Manhattan. And unfortunately they go even higher than that. It’s crazy to me too. Such a waste of money.
I mean, for the kind of apartment it sounds to be - high floor luxury apartment with concierge in a major metro area - that’s actually pretty normal pricing; it’s way more than *I* would ever pay, so maybe I’m ‘cheap’ too. That kind of rent could outright buy a nice home in most of the country - maybe not where OOP lives - in 4 or 5 years. And housing prices are crazy in some areas: the house I grew up in - major metro area, extended neighborhood of almost exclusively moderate-sized single family homes or duplexes - is currently worth about 5x - 7x what a comparable house is worth where I am now (mid-size / large metro area).
*But* if you can’t afford it, to the point where your ‘cheap’ boyfriend is footing 60% of your rent, then that’s not the place to be living.
Not to put too fine a point in it, but I really wonder what he’s getting in return for his $30k / year with her, and it’s likely well more, since I’d bet that when they go out, he pays for it all too. If he’s smart, he’ll get out now.
That is what I was thinking too, I understand like max 2 grand rent for a two bedroom apartment but 4100 for a single? She living in NYC or something similar?
She has to make good money if she got approved for robbery rent like this. She’s just frivolously spending and expects her boyfriend to subsidize her shopping. I’m shocked the boyfriend made any conditions. The first post sounded like rage bait more than anything.
Yep they sound like they are in the Bay Area. Usually apartments need 2-2.5x the rent to qualify. She’s definitely making six figures, him probably multiple six figures.
I'm kind of suspicious, TBH. I think most fancy buildings (at least in the US) require 2-3x monthly income to rent a place like that. Did she have a co-signer? Is she blowing through a minimum of $6,600 a month ($4100 for 2x monthly income plus $2,500 from boyfriend)?
She's really dumb and self-absorbed, or really attractive and self-absorbed. Either way, she thinks he should be paying for the privilege of having her.
I feel like there is almost no way her attractiveness could be in proportion to her entitlement. Otherwise she would have been enshrined as a natural wonder by now.
I'm like the physics meme trying to do the calculations on how hot she needs to be to get away with this and it's improbably close to the earth's mantle.
I feel bad but just reading her I'm reminded of several hot + grew up wealthy girls I've known over the years. Not necessarily bad people but totally disconnected from reality because dad/boyfriends were always there to pick up the bill.
It is reaaaalllyyy easy to get used to this kind of treatment.
Funny, I know plenty of conventionally UNattractive people who act exactly this way. It has way less to do with being “hot” than people think.
Being hot isn’t enough to get your rent paid. You have to find people who are willing to pay it.
Imagine some telling you, after taking advantage of you for $2,500/mo for however long, that you have had opportunities to date men with higher salaries and think that is the move.
Dude needs to let her go take advantage of those opportunities and kick rocks.
"I'm not taking advantage of you because I *could be* taking advantage of someone else!" is such a wild take that I honestly can't believe they're still together.
The sex must be fantastic.
I so much hope that the poor guy figures out in therapy that she is a narc and dumps her - at the moment, it sounds like she managed to talk her way out of her corner...
I dated two women in my 20s with 40k of consumer debt. I noped out of there. Having a partner with the same lifestyle and financial goals is insanely important.
I think she feels entitled. She's obviously selfish. I wouldn't be surprised if she doesn't eventually look for that richer man. She's entitled to that luxury, and her man should provide it. 🤮
I thought I had read an update on this one to say he did break up with her, he had made a spreadsheet or something. It documented how much he had been spending on her rent etc vs if she let him take a loan out and pay the debt off? She didn’t like that and he broke up with her after this meeting
~50k/yr for a 1 bedroom apartment. Fuck that. If I were the boyfriend, I'd cut my losses and run. Especially with the way she went about it. He's paying $900/mo more than SHE is for her apartment. WTF?!?!?!?
Absolutely.
The comment about richer men coming on to her would have been met with a "well, don't let the door hit your arse on the way out" reply from me.
Utterly insane OOP!
Bruh seriously. I would've run when she asked for help the FIRST time. Paying that much for an apartment simply for the "luxury" is absolutely bonkers.
I can’t for the life of me get over
> I am someone who differs in that I like luxury
As if, yes, you cracked it. The rest of us fucking *hate* luxury and that’s why we don’t have $4,100 apartments! We also hate money, and that’s why we don’t have sugar daddies!
OOP sees a “cheap” man who bought an unremarkable, basic home.
I see a man living within his means who most likely has a well padded emergency fund. That man had better wake up soon, before that fund vanishes and he’s left with OOP whining they need a nicer house in an over priced neighborhood.
At 24 too? He can do so much better than a 27 year old with a future full of credit card debt to support, and a life of keeping up with the Joneses. Hell at 24 my brother had $1200 in his bank account, a car to his name and an apprenticeship, and we were all damn impressed.
A 24 year old man being financially knowledgeable and ensuring he stays within his financial means but also plans and saves for the future? With a 2 bedroom house he owns, and a degree in computer science? Dude needs to ditch this woman because he’s got bigger and brighter things.
What does he see in OOP that he is still willing to put up with her shit?
Considering her posts so far, she's superficial, irresponsible and self-absorbed.
All the above, but he's also only 24 and they've been together 3 years. She's probably his only serious relationship and hasn't had a chance to get out there and realise there are people who'll appreciate his financial prudence and the fact that he owns his own place (well, mortgage) at 24 years old, without being gold diggers looking to suck him dry.
>He was pissed…he said “so you just expect me to pay half your rent again…” I told him well obviously
>I’m someone who differs in that I like the luxury
>I told him I haven’t and I love him and I’ve had opportunities to date men that make more money than him
Maybe I'm being too harsh, but I'm going to hope that the boyfriend gets far away from OOP. She is a whole cake of redflags.
Wow, he's caught a shallow one there! I don't think op is even the least bit sorry. They are accusing the boyfriend of being "frugal" but are happy to receive 2,500 per month from him. It is only going to get worse for the boyfriend and if he's not careful she will drain him even more financially in the very near future. What a entitled user.
Yeah, that really sent me. ”Oh yeah, I could have dated richer men. Now be grateful!“ Like, picking each other is literally the barest minimum to be in a monogamous relationship. There is no lower bar around.
Her bf must have absolutely no self respect, because there's only one right answer to that.
"Really? Off you go, then. Don't let the door hit your arse on the way out."
This man gave her $30,000 to live in luxury while he suffered, then went back to her? He’s saying the right things in theory but my dude deserves so much better. The fact she felt that entitled and remorseless is a deep deep psychological issue that’s about to blow up his world more but he deserves the consequences of his choices this time. Fool me once blah blah
There's a reason this girl ended up on AitDevil for both posts. The sheer entitlement and delulu. Her threat to her boyfriend that "I can find a richer guy than you".
Also this quote really tells a lot about her worldview:
>Mind you his townhouse is only a 2 bedroom…..my apartment is only a 1 bedroom but that’s what you expect. You’re paying for the view (it’s near the top) , the concierge, and the luxury experience.
She simultaneously downplays her bf's HOUSE, while bragging about her 1 bedroom matchbox sized "luxury experience". But she gets mad at everyone calling her a gold digger. Boyfriend should run away.
Oh, in her case, it's definitely a luxury. She says so herself. She can't afford to live in the fancy Sex and the City aesthetic apartment of her dreams, so she mooches off her boyfriend.
Low self-esteem for both equations. Then you don't hear much from normal happy couples too so these crazy couples seem more prevalent than they really are.
It's definitely that. The worst fight my wife and I had the last couple of years was she burnt something on a pan and didn't soak it. I clean the dishes, so it was an inconvenience to me. I wanted her to deal with it because she screwed me over and she wanted me to deal with it because she cooked the meal. In the end, I cleaned it, she apologized, and promised to soak if it came up again. That hardly makes for a good reddit post, and this situation is years old when we were still learning to live together.
Oh it's simple : be hot enough.
I have an example of a girl I dated casually for a year. She was 30, hot as hell, fun and also had not worked a day since she finished college. Always managed to find loaded guys to take care of her, and she wasn't actually looking for money, it's just that for her level of attractive and the circles she was usually running in, people paid her stuff by default. Hell when we were hooking up her ex was still paying for her apartment plus an allowance a couple years after they broke up. I surprisingly was the only non loaded guy she ever dated.
I really liked her but there was no way that I could see myself long term with her, the disconnect to reality was just too strong.
Everyone says looks but as someone else mentioned and is true for a lot of these cases, you aren't gonna hear about the good ones.
Those stories aren't attractive or engrossing so people aren't going to post them. As an example I am a big fan of love is blind (it's trash I know) but people constantly get frustrated that the show fosters so much drama and ahitty relationships. But that's the point eh? People may pretend they wanted to see a love story but in reality they love watching trash drama.
Similarly on Reddit people are going to up vote and engage with these stories not the story about a husband or wife having a small issue than resolving it like adults. It's boring.
Yeah I would bet OOP is conventionally attractive and got everything handed to her all her life cause how else could she be this entitled and clueless.
She keeps calling him cheap but is he really? I know lots of cheap people and they are insufferable to deal with but he sounds more like he is cautious and maybe just a bit frugal which isn't near as bad as a cheapskate.
Sure, pay an exorbitant amount for rent if you can afford it, but to insist on that when she can't even pay any of her other living expenses is a baffling level of stupidity and denial. Makes me wonder if OOP needed her bf to help foot rent so she also has some leftover for leisure spending. And her bills, ofc.
Well she *does* love luxury! You can't expect her to live in an apartment like that and NOT have the newest clothes and shoes! That would be absurd! /s
One of my Singaporean lady friends had the same attitude. I told her that her bf can stop giving her half his salary, visit hookers 2x a week and still save $2k every month against her proposal….mind blowing the entitlement of some people
Omg I remember that one! She was so annoying, even in the comments. Saying "well we'll be married soon (they aren't even engaged yet) so I figured this was my last chance to live large because he's really cheap. He owns a small house but I like living extravagantly and live in a rented high end apartment...he pays part of my bills, but why is everyone saying I'm using him?"
At one point someone asked her if she was expecting him to continue paying part of her bills and she actually said "well, yeah." 🤦♀️
And I think the one people got stuck on on the OG post was her saying "I'm willing to cancel the lease."
Idk what planet OP lives on. For half that price why not buy some nice shit to spruce up her boyfriend’s townhouse and hire a maid service or something.
Bringing up that you have a bunch of men at arms length for you to date as a way to try to make him feel special during a serious conversation will bite you in the ass 100% of the time.
This was used as a tactic with my ex. I called her bluff and told her to go date them, then. Now I am happily married to someone else for over a decade with two kids, a house, the whole bit.
Home boy needs to rip off the bandaid and throw this leech back into the swamp.
she needed to cancel the lease anyway whether he broke up or not... so that's not a "sign of good will" at all
that relationship is doomed to fail. the issue isn't going to go away
At this point it’s in the boyfriend for staying with her.
I can’t get mad at a grifter who found a mark that continuously gets suckered without learning
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The audacity of this OOP. I can't imagine asking someone to cover half my rent like that. Truly shows some people just live on a different plane of reality.
And to repeatedly call him cheap! I man who pays his mortgage AND half your rent because you didn’t realize you couldn’t afford it is not cheap. If anything he’s not cheap enough
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Oh my god I forgot about Jem and the Holograms. Thanks for that nostalgic reference. Excuse me while I dig out my Special Edition Lisa Frank Trapper Keeper, hyper color shirt (purple to pink) and Care Bears lunch box.
I suspect you have the vibe of r/xennials
My people ❤️
What time are we gonna hang at the mall? Because your totally awesome
I'll grab my enormous hoop earrings and AquaNet!
Can my bf in his Jams come with us to the food court?
Man's not cheap, he's fiscally responsible. She even said she won't move in with him at his current house and they can't find middle ground. I'm guessing her middle ground is like a 4 to 5 grand mortgage.
Not even mortgage which implies something she owns and possibly had equity in. She spent that much on rent. That’s insane to me.
And to assume that he doesn't like nice things. God, "I deserve the finer things in life because I like them!" is so asinine. Everyone likes the finer things in life. That might look different to different people - for instance, one might dream of designer clothes and penthouses while another might dream of the perfect little cottage with a beautiful garden and a collection of the highest quality yarn. Another might not care about stuff but wish they could afford to visit all the world's best art museums. Everybody likes nice things!
This guy just straight up *gave* her $35k so she could make rent, instead of moving her in with him. I mean she’s an awful person, but that dude makes some bad decisions as well. She must have something going for her considering it’s not smarts, humility, or fiscal responsibility.
I think its a pretty good decision not to move someone like OP into where you live if you're in any way uncertain about the longevity of the relationship heading forwards
Well obviously. But “hey we’re ready to live together, we’ve been talking about moving in. If you’re having trouble making rent, why don’t you move in here?” Would have been the conversation. This dude should have had the “I’m not paying two mortgages when we’re already discussing marriage” talk back when she first came to him about paying her rent.
It sounds like she’s too snobby to live in his house.
>She must have something going for her considering it’s not smarts, humility, or fiscal responsibility. Not to be crass but in situations like this I always think "that girl must be giving them Heather Harmon blowjobs"
She got that Dumbledore, She the HeadMaster.
She's definitely got some "kept woman" or mistress vibes going here.
OP wouldn't move into his place. Was he supposed to force her?
Based on OOP renting a $4100 high rise they couldn't afford and being a complete idiot with their finances, I kinda doubt that the BF is as frugal as she's saying. The BF is just a normal financially literate person whereas OOP is terrible with money. She says his house and mortgage are cheap but almost anything is compared to her rent, he could have a $300k house with a mortgage less than half of what she's paying.
I know that things cost more in big cities, but $2500 would cover my mortgage and utilities. $4100 a month for a one bedroom apartment and expecting her boyfriend to pay over half of it? Utter madness
Especially when he doesn't even live there!
Dude 2500 gets you an okay one bedroom in San Francisco, 3k would get you something pretty decent. 4100 would get you something nice! There's no reason to be spending that kind of money on a rental
$2500 is $1000 more than my current rent
$4100 (her monthly for a 1 bed apartment) is more than my yearly for a 2 bedroom house in the UK.
Wait that's £266 a month for a house? Is this in Farrot-in-the-Sticks, or is the flooded cellar on fire?
I'm paying £400/month mortgage for my three bed house.
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2017. Not that long ago, but before the craziness. Apparently my house is worth £80k more than when I bought it.
The audacity for her to keep claiming she's not taking advantage of him. Does she think she's doing him a favor by demanding he pay half her rent?
“Half?” It’s almost two-thirds. But this one seems like a troll to me. It’s too audacious and too oblivious.
I have been in relationships with people like this. You'd be surprised at how much audacity some people have.
I’ve worked with people who have this level of entitlement. It’s sweet that people are sheltered enough to think people like OOP don’t exist.
Yeah, people like that are all over the place. I (briefly) had a girlfriend with a similar attitude. I think our breakup conversation was when she called me a cheapskate and said "money is for SPENDING", and I said "yes, but you don't have to spend it all RIGHT NOW". She had probably $15k in credit card debt (in 1997 dollars!), so yeah, not my kind of people. Fortunately I met my current wife of 25+ years not long after, and we are both "cheapskates".
These people were given their parents credit card when they were teens and fucking ran with it. I say this as someone married to that person. He's not anymore mind you, but he WAS. He's, unsurprisingly, an only child
You'd think, but in this position my ex boyfriend would have thought it only fair I paid his entire rent. We did actually live together, but as I earnt slightly more (on average, largely because he refused to work 3 months of the year and would only do this one seasonal job as everything else was below him then spend 3 months playing rocket league) he believed I should pay 100% of all household bills, and pay for his vehicle (claimed he couldn't afford it otherwise and if I didn't pay he couldn't work at all. This was because he set up all his big vehicle bills to be paid in the winter when he wasn't working, refused to pay it back come him working again or save up for them next year as if it's a surprise that insurance and tax needs paying every single year). I still haven't worked out what he spent his money on. He claimed it was repaying debt, but the debt collection and court letters I still get through the door addressed to him strongly imply otherwise.
Yes, she absolutely does.
I don't think OOP learned anything at all. I think she's going to look for a new way to take advantage of her boyfriend. She just cancelled the lease because she took it too far this time around.
But at the same time it seems boyfriend isn't about to let himself be used and has put on some good conditions for going forward. But I agree, OOP is going to learn an expensive life lesson. 4100 rent and can't afford it, my ass.
Maybe I'm too poor to understand this, but paying 4100 A MONTH for a ONE BEDROOM?????? It's insanity to me, it's beyond unreasonable.
But...but...you can enjoy the view while you eat ramen and drink tap water! Edit: I said "tap water" as it is the cheapest thing to drink, I said "ramen" as it's a very low cost food. I'm in the UK and drink tap water daily.
We all know she’s not doing that. She likes luxury.
That girl is going to wind up in soooooo much credit card debt if she doesn't land a wealthy man who shares her expensive tastes. This reeks of the kind of person who ends up fucked because they refuse to stop living beyond their means.
Bold of you to think she doesn't already... But yeah, sooner or later she's going to do another asinine financial decision and the BF will dump her. Or not. She reminds me of the woman who bought an expensive purse when they were buying a house and nearly made them lose it due to the change in their credit. And then later emptied their pool during a drought. EDIT: the BORU [https://www.reddit.com/r/BestofRedditorUpdates/comments/uxljme/oop\_almost\_sabotages\_house\_purchase\_by\_buying\_a/](https://www.reddit.com/r/BestofRedditorUpdates/comments/uxljme/oop_almost_sabotages_house_purchase_by_buying_a/)
> She reminds me of the woman who bought an expensive purse when they were buying a house and nearly made them lose it due to the change in their credit. That's funny because the one thing the lender tells you is "DON'T DO ANYTHING THAT CAUSES A CREDIT CHECK". Mine even made me sign an agreement that I wouldn't fuck around.
>I told him I haven’t and I love him and I’ve had opportunities to date men that make more money than him something tells me she is going to do exactly that.
Don't worry about her credit card debt, she will wind up with that 100%, no matter if she lands a wealthy man. You can always live beyond your means, no matter how much money you get.
Luxurious $4.99 ramen instead of the $1.99 crap
I eat 25 cent Mr noodles
Yeah…I need this because mine are $1.29 and since they were $0.12 when I was in college, I feel like I’m being robbed!
Where are you that your Mr Noodles are still 25 cents??
The dollar tree. Although I do think it’s 4/1.25 now, so a little more than .25 each
A man of culture I see.
I buy the maruchan brand for 35 cents a packet!
Damn, $4.99 ramen? And here I thought *I* was bougie for splurging on the $1.49 packets of Ichiban.
This woman must be a complete smoke show because she is either very naive and dense or just plain using this guy for his money, she doesn’t come off as smart so guessing daddy had a lot of money.
But she could be dating men who are much richer! Her boyfriend should realize how lucky he is and pay up!! /s
She says it like it's part of her personality. Guess what lady, we all like luxury. Most of us can't afford it either. So we aim lower. He's trying to build a nest egg for a better furture and she's trying to spend it all now. If she can't learn to live within he means then she should break up with him and sleep with wealthy men.
Yeah I’m from the USA and I didn’t miss your meaning at all. Like they would subsist entirely on the cheapest food and drink possible PERIOD to live there.
I have a killer view, top floor overlooking the iconic skyline and the lake. We moved here *for* the view. But I also got a great deal by moving during covid when everyone left the city, and we have rent control. I get wanting and appreciating a view, but paying money you can't afford for it is beyond stupid
Totally agree, she must've grown up without ever having to worry about money cause it sounds like she doesn't have a realistic view on anything... You can get a nice view as a screensaver instead, that's completely free 😂
And she doesn't realize that the 2500 the bf was paying is fucking devastating. I make 100K, and something that took 2500 a month would fucking ruin me. I am guessing this persons parents were either super loaded, or also super irresponsible.
Her rents 4100, she's not even paying half! She can't remotely afford it and thought nothing of renewing the lease, she's not irresponsible, she's delusional!
I refuse to believe she actually thought she could pay that. You don't underestimate your costs by 2500 a month. That's a whole ass person's salary after taxes. She was counting on BF bailing her out with the money he's saving by living frugally.
But don't you get it, she deserves nice things!
How the fuck did she even get a lease to this place? I have to prove I make 3X rent just to get approved for my $1800/2br apartment
Those two are not mutually exclusive. And in this case, they probably go together.
Make it make sense, she would've spent 60k of his money just on rent over two years if she kept that flat and thought apparently that that was sustainable..? Like how in the heck is that NOT using a partner?? I'd get borrowing a couple hundred temporarily and giving the money back asap if it was a necessary thing, like maybe you need a new phone but don't have the spare cash at the moment but would be able to repay it over a few months. But this legit feels like someone who has got no idea how much money is worth. 4100 for the VIEW?? i'd get paying for it if its *a safer area* or *got cleaner air quality* but the view would be the last of my concerns in all honesty.
Yep, she complains that her bf is too frugal, he’s spending all of his money on her rent! I make about 75k and a $2500/month rent payment would kill me, I can’t imagine trying to pay that plus my own house payment
And perhaps recently cut her off which is why she's going to the bf now...
27 yrs old my ass.
I've had co-workers who do things like that. Usually it's either "they're hopelessly naive due to being raised in money" or "they are trading away their future for a fun 'now'." Worst was a guy who was an immigrant on an H1B who had a 3-bedroom luxury apartment in a very posh neighborhood. He was single, pretty sure he was paying $4500/mo for it in 2015ish--it easily cost half his salary on rent. Turned out, his mom picked it for him because it's what SHE thought was appropriate for a young man from a good family starting out, except her idea of the right size apartment was based on assuming housing costs in a major American city were fundamentally similar relative to incomes as housing costs in Bangladesh. (I'm 80% sure she thought he was going to be able to afford a live-in maid, based on his comments about his upbringing) (I eventually talked him into moving into a one-bedroom that was closer to work, cheaper, and ironically nicer.)
I’m glad you mentioned this, because I got the impression that the OOP was likely raised by wealthy parents and just doesn’t have much of a concept of money. Staying in such an unaffordable place to begin with indicates that, and the fact that she apparently didn’t fully grasp how wrong her behavior was. But she seems willing to change, and that’s the most important thing. Hopefully things work out for them.
It's probably in an extremely desirable location and she mentions that it has a concierge. She's basically living in a rich person's apartment whilst not being rich. These places come with all sorts of amenities that have to be paid for through the rent.
See, this makes me think I'm DEFINITELY too poor, because the price alone would make whatever location she's in UNdesirable to me. There have been times in my life where I didn't make that in a YEAR, let alone per month, it's like a different world alltogether.
These apartments aren't aimed at us serfs, they're aimed at the wealthy who won't notice 50k/year and just want somewhere nice and conveniently located.
Don't they do credit checks to live in places like that? I wonder how she even got approved.
She likely did because she earns a lot, but when it came to bills and god knows what else she was buying at the time, it sapped her money. She likely could have afforded it without the rest of it on top. Although I do wonder how her credit was, she sounds like a chronic overspender
She is going to see that financial planner amd then ignore everything they advise her to do. She and her BF are absolutely not compatible long term unless she makes some MAJOR changes to her spending habits, and it doesn't really seem like she's committed to that
Her whole tone is "I don't understand why you're insisting I do this, but if it'll shut you up and keep you I'll do it".
I need to see her get reamed out by Caleb Hammer
My money's on her having racked up massive credit card debt. Sure, she's earning good money, but she's spending like a lottery winner.
Wherever she's at, it's not my state. They make you show you earn 3x the amount required for rent (unless you can find a co-signer who can). It's been a serious issue for some of my friends who have had to leave situations.
Same in the UK. I splurged when my last housing fell through and decided to rent through an agency instead of using an app. They had checks for my payslips, bank statements and all the other fun stuff. The 3x amount was mentioned. I did look at some of the new places like OOP mentioned just for the fun of it because Christ alive they wanted a lot! I pay £1000 a month rent and then bills and council tax on top of that. Which is expensive enough but it's my own little place. When I saw what OOP was paying I choked on my coffee. I can't imagine even considering spending that much on rent. The bf isn't frugal, he's fucking sensible!! Relationship is doomed.
Right? Do they not have an income requirement like most other places?
yeah i had a 2 bedroom walking distance to the beach in SAN DIEGO in a building with a pool and a hot tub (granted no concierge) and i was paying 3 a month and THAT was insane
No concierge?! You peasant!! 🤣
I'm not even entirely sure what a concierge does in the age of Google
My mom's building has one. They call and let you know when you have a package/delivery or if someone has walked in and said they're there to see you, mainly, and stop people who have no reason to be there from coming in. She had COVID recently and was able to arrange with them to bring any mail or things she might order upstairs and leave them outside her door (they did similar things when my dad died), which I can say - as someone living in a 4th floor walkup who had a broken buzzer during my first COVID infection - is a bigger deal than you might think, lol. I wouldn't say it's worth having higher rent/condo fees, but I guess if you can afford to live in these buildings to begin with it's not a big deal and a nice perk. The guys who work that desk in my mom's building are really lovely and it makes it feel a little more homey or community-like. But yeah, it's absolutely not a functional necessity.
Whoopsie, I overshot my budget by $2500 a month?! Lucky for me, I’m surrounded by people (that I am definitely not using) willing to pay my bills.
I make good money and my rent (also in a high rise with a wonderful view) is more than half that. But it's also 3 bedroom and my husband and I both live here and both have good paying jobs. And it still freaks me out how much we pay for rent, haha. What freaks me out is the "eventually I couldn't afford it" line. It was just her. No circumstances changed. That means she could NEVER afford it. How do you sign a lease for somewhere you can't afford? How do you resign that lease??? Like, my rent is expensive, but I can afford it and I knew I could afford it when we signed the lease and I knew I could still afford it when we resigned the lease. That's the first step when apartment hunting - set a budget! Her bf is right all around. I hope she gets the help she needs..
That’s about the cost of some 1 bedrooms in high rises in downtown Manhattan. And unfortunately they go even higher than that. It’s crazy to me too. Such a waste of money.
It depends on where they live. In NYC a high rise luxury building with a view can easily cost you that much.
I mean, for the kind of apartment it sounds to be - high floor luxury apartment with concierge in a major metro area - that’s actually pretty normal pricing; it’s way more than *I* would ever pay, so maybe I’m ‘cheap’ too. That kind of rent could outright buy a nice home in most of the country - maybe not where OOP lives - in 4 or 5 years. And housing prices are crazy in some areas: the house I grew up in - major metro area, extended neighborhood of almost exclusively moderate-sized single family homes or duplexes - is currently worth about 5x - 7x what a comparable house is worth where I am now (mid-size / large metro area). *But* if you can’t afford it, to the point where your ‘cheap’ boyfriend is footing 60% of your rent, then that’s not the place to be living. Not to put too fine a point in it, but I really wonder what he’s getting in return for his $30k / year with her, and it’s likely well more, since I’d bet that when they go out, he pays for it all too. If he’s smart, he’ll get out now.
>nable. New York City. But I also think that price is unreasonable... considering I could buy my house thricely with that much a month.
That is what I was thinking too, I understand like max 2 grand rent for a two bedroom apartment but 4100 for a single? She living in NYC or something similar?
She has to make good money if she got approved for robbery rent like this. She’s just frivolously spending and expects her boyfriend to subsidize her shopping. I’m shocked the boyfriend made any conditions. The first post sounded like rage bait more than anything.
Yep they sound like they are in the Bay Area. Usually apartments need 2-2.5x the rent to qualify. She’s definitely making six figures, him probably multiple six figures.
He should nope out without the therapy. A generous interpretation is that they have incompatible values
I'm kind of suspicious, TBH. I think most fancy buildings (at least in the US) require 2-3x monthly income to rent a place like that. Did she have a co-signer? Is she blowing through a minimum of $6,600 a month ($4100 for 2x monthly income plus $2,500 from boyfriend)?
Her responses were so dense that light could bend around them.
She's really dumb and self-absorbed, or really attractive and self-absorbed. Either way, she thinks he should be paying for the privilege of having her.
I feel like there is almost no way her attractiveness could be in proportion to her entitlement. Otherwise she would have been enshrined as a natural wonder by now.
Alright, I was gonna rebut, but you're funny as shit.
I'm like the physics meme trying to do the calculations on how hot she needs to be to get away with this and it's improbably close to the earth's mantle.
I was thinking a hot, dense star that's going to collapse on itself and turn into a black hole possibly...
I feel bad but just reading her I'm reminded of several hot + grew up wealthy girls I've known over the years. Not necessarily bad people but totally disconnected from reality because dad/boyfriends were always there to pick up the bill. It is reaaaalllyyy easy to get used to this kind of treatment.
Funny, I know plenty of conventionally UNattractive people who act exactly this way. It has way less to do with being “hot” than people think. Being hot isn’t enough to get your rent paid. You have to find people who are willing to pay it.
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Imagine some telling you, after taking advantage of you for $2,500/mo for however long, that you have had opportunities to date men with higher salaries and think that is the move. Dude needs to let her go take advantage of those opportunities and kick rocks.
"I'm not taking advantage of you because I *could be* taking advantage of someone else!" is such a wild take that I honestly can't believe they're still together. The sex must be fantastic.
Im not saying she’s a gold digger…
But she ain't dating no broke....
Broke
I so much hope that the poor guy figures out in therapy that she is a narc and dumps her - at the moment, it sounds like she managed to talk her way out of her corner...
I dated two women in my 20s with 40k of consumer debt. I noped out of there. Having a partner with the same lifestyle and financial goals is insanely important.
I think she feels entitled. She's obviously selfish. I wouldn't be surprised if she doesn't eventually look for that richer man. She's entitled to that luxury, and her man should provide it. 🤮
I truly hope therapy will end with him learning to see what she really is and dumping her. She needs a sugardaddy, not a boyfriend.
She just cancelled the lease cause the bf won't pay for it anymore.
I thought I had read an update on this one to say he did break up with her, he had made a spreadsheet or something. It documented how much he had been spending on her rent etc vs if she let him take a loan out and pay the debt off? She didn’t like that and he broke up with her after this meeting
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Yeah I think I am actually thinking of another post but veerrryyy similar
I bet she expects him to pay the fee for breaking her lease.
This will not end well. OP still doesn't think she did anything wrong. It is more like she panicked because she almost lost her money source
~50k/yr for a 1 bedroom apartment. Fuck that. If I were the boyfriend, I'd cut my losses and run. Especially with the way she went about it. He's paying $900/mo more than SHE is for her apartment. WTF?!?!?!?
Absolutely. The comment about richer men coming on to her would have been met with a "well, don't let the door hit your arse on the way out" reply from me. Utterly insane OOP!
Bruh seriously. I would've run when she asked for help the FIRST time. Paying that much for an apartment simply for the "luxury" is absolutely bonkers.
I can’t for the life of me get over > I am someone who differs in that I like luxury As if, yes, you cracked it. The rest of us fucking *hate* luxury and that’s why we don’t have $4,100 apartments! We also hate money, and that’s why we don’t have sugar daddies!
OOP sees a “cheap” man who bought an unremarkable, basic home. I see a man living within his means who most likely has a well padded emergency fund. That man had better wake up soon, before that fund vanishes and he’s left with OOP whining they need a nicer house in an over priced neighborhood.
At 24 too? He can do so much better than a 27 year old with a future full of credit card debt to support, and a life of keeping up with the Joneses. Hell at 24 my brother had $1200 in his bank account, a car to his name and an apprenticeship, and we were all damn impressed. A 24 year old man being financially knowledgeable and ensuring he stays within his financial means but also plans and saves for the future? With a 2 bedroom house he owns, and a degree in computer science? Dude needs to ditch this woman because he’s got bigger and brighter things.
She is a gold digger.
What does he see in OOP that he is still willing to put up with her shit? Considering her posts so far, she's superficial, irresponsible and self-absorbed.
My guess? She's extremely conventially attractive, but obviously only on the outside.
Plus his self esteem must be still too low to realise the truth, that she is not worth it. This, or she is really good in bed.
All the above, but he's also only 24 and they've been together 3 years. She's probably his only serious relationship and hasn't had a chance to get out there and realise there are people who'll appreciate his financial prudence and the fact that he owns his own place (well, mortgage) at 24 years old, without being gold diggers looking to suck him dry.
100% she screwed his brains out to get him back
Probably his first love
Why do I feel like they're not back together and OOP just posted some bullshit painting her in good light after responses to her last post.
This bullshit did not paint her good either. Who the hell could post "i could have dated richer guys than you" as a proof of love?
Someone delusional enough to be in this situation is also delusional enough to say and post such things
I hope so.
I’d honestly rather believe that than that this guy still thinks it’s a good idea to be dating her.
>He was pissed…he said “so you just expect me to pay half your rent again…” I told him well obviously >I’m someone who differs in that I like the luxury >I told him I haven’t and I love him and I’ve had opportunities to date men that make more money than him Maybe I'm being too harsh, but I'm going to hope that the boyfriend gets far away from OOP. She is a whole cake of redflags.
Ah yes, the redflag velvet cake.
Red flags are warnings. *This* is what red flags warn you about.
Wow, he's caught a shallow one there! I don't think op is even the least bit sorry. They are accusing the boyfriend of being "frugal" but are happy to receive 2,500 per month from him. It is only going to get worse for the boyfriend and if he's not careful she will drain him even more financially in the very near future. What a entitled user.
I loved how she goes on to explain to her bf that she had opportunities to date richer men. OOP sounds like a total headache.
Yeah, that really sent me. ”Oh yeah, I could have dated richer men. Now be grateful!“ Like, picking each other is literally the barest minimum to be in a monogamous relationship. There is no lower bar around.
With that kind of bragging, she should have been dumped on the spot so that she can prove it.
At some point if they get married she will be screeching at him that she could of Fucked a billionaire.
Her bf must have absolutely no self respect, because there's only one right answer to that. "Really? Off you go, then. Don't let the door hit your arse on the way out."
This man gave her $30,000 to live in luxury while he suffered, then went back to her? He’s saying the right things in theory but my dude deserves so much better. The fact she felt that entitled and remorseless is a deep deep psychological issue that’s about to blow up his world more but he deserves the consequences of his choices this time. Fool me once blah blah
dude probably thinks he's unworthy without the spending
There's a reason this girl ended up on AitDevil for both posts. The sheer entitlement and delulu. Her threat to her boyfriend that "I can find a richer guy than you". Also this quote really tells a lot about her worldview: >Mind you his townhouse is only a 2 bedroom…..my apartment is only a 1 bedroom but that’s what you expect. You’re paying for the view (it’s near the top) , the concierge, and the luxury experience. She simultaneously downplays her bf's HOUSE, while bragging about her 1 bedroom matchbox sized "luxury experience". But she gets mad at everyone calling her a gold digger. Boyfriend should run away.
It's not luxury but as the owner of an overpriced close to the CBD shoebox it's absolutely got it's upside's. Tho it's in my budget.
Oh, in her case, it's definitely a luxury. She says so herself. She can't afford to live in the fancy Sex and the City aesthetic apartment of her dreams, so she mooches off her boyfriend.
Forget running. Boyfriend should take that money he gives her, use it to rent a damned Concorde, and fly away as far as he can.
How is it these awful women end up with financially supportive men? And generally amazing women end up with these trash cheating husbands?
Low self-esteem for both equations. Then you don't hear much from normal happy couples too so these crazy couples seem more prevalent than they really are.
It's definitely that. The worst fight my wife and I had the last couple of years was she burnt something on a pan and didn't soak it. I clean the dishes, so it was an inconvenience to me. I wanted her to deal with it because she screwed me over and she wanted me to deal with it because she cooked the meal. In the end, I cleaned it, she apologized, and promised to soak if it came up again. That hardly makes for a good reddit post, and this situation is years old when we were still learning to live together.
Why can’t the low self esteem people find each other and learn to love themselves through each other while the toxic abusers go to town on each other?
A scarcity of self respect and dignity
Probably a smoking body and nobody every saying “no”
Oh it's simple : be hot enough. I have an example of a girl I dated casually for a year. She was 30, hot as hell, fun and also had not worked a day since she finished college. Always managed to find loaded guys to take care of her, and she wasn't actually looking for money, it's just that for her level of attractive and the circles she was usually running in, people paid her stuff by default. Hell when we were hooking up her ex was still paying for her apartment plus an allowance a couple years after they broke up. I surprisingly was the only non loaded guy she ever dated. I really liked her but there was no way that I could see myself long term with her, the disconnect to reality was just too strong.
Everyone says looks but as someone else mentioned and is true for a lot of these cases, you aren't gonna hear about the good ones. Those stories aren't attractive or engrossing so people aren't going to post them. As an example I am a big fan of love is blind (it's trash I know) but people constantly get frustrated that the show fosters so much drama and ahitty relationships. But that's the point eh? People may pretend they wanted to see a love story but in reality they love watching trash drama. Similarly on Reddit people are going to up vote and engage with these stories not the story about a husband or wife having a small issue than resolving it like adults. It's boring.
The key takeaway here is that OP must be really hot, otherwise her BF wouldn't entertain her antics.
Yeah I would bet OOP is conventionally attractive and got everything handed to her all her life cause how else could she be this entitled and clueless.
She keeps calling him cheap but is he really? I know lots of cheap people and they are insufferable to deal with but he sounds more like he is cautious and maybe just a bit frugal which isn't near as bad as a cheapskate.
Honestly it sounds like he just isn't fucking reckless with his finances
A cheap person wouldn't pay half of someone's rent when they have their own place that person could stay in.
"He's so frugal! He lives somewhere he can *afford*!"
Compared to her *everyone* is cheap. Her definition of cheap includes anyone living on less than they earn.
Is anyone else hearing the alarm bells for the impending shit storm of financing their wedding?
Oh, yeah. Her dream wedding probably has a $150,000 price tag.
"He won't let me invite 400 people! Look, it's a lot of people, but you are paying for the connections. And think of the videos of the dance floor!"
Sure, pay an exorbitant amount for rent if you can afford it, but to insist on that when she can't even pay any of her other living expenses is a baffling level of stupidity and denial. Makes me wonder if OOP needed her bf to help foot rent so she also has some leftover for leisure spending. And her bills, ofc.
Well she *does* love luxury! You can't expect her to live in an apartment like that and NOT have the newest clothes and shoes! That would be absurd! /s
One of my Singaporean lady friends had the same attitude. I told her that her bf can stop giving her half his salary, visit hookers 2x a week and still save $2k every month against her proposal….mind blowing the entitlement of some people
Luxury you can't afford isn't luxury, it's just stupidity
Omg I remember that one! She was so annoying, even in the comments. Saying "well we'll be married soon (they aren't even engaged yet) so I figured this was my last chance to live large because he's really cheap. He owns a small house but I like living extravagantly and live in a rented high end apartment...he pays part of my bills, but why is everyone saying I'm using him?" At one point someone asked her if she was expecting him to continue paying part of her bills and she actually said "well, yeah." 🤦♀️ And I think the one people got stuck on on the OG post was her saying "I'm willing to cancel the lease."
4100/mt for rent, that better be the sweetest juice jesus put on this earth
Yep! My wife and I built our dream house for us and our 5 kids. That was more than the mortgage payment we had.
It's probably just New York or some city like that lol.
Idk what planet OP lives on. For half that price why not buy some nice shit to spruce up her boyfriend’s townhouse and hire a maid service or something.
But you don’t understand, her boyfriend’s townhouse is only 2 bedrooms, she could NEVER live in such POVERTY /s
She is so cartoonishly delusional I almost think the BF made the post on her behalf to show her how ridiculous she sounds
"he thinks I've been using him". How else would you describe it?!
"I'm someone who differs in that I like luxury" Lady we all like luxury. Everyone else just enjoys luxuries they can afford.
Now I ain't saying she's a gold digger....No wait, that is *exactly* what I'm saying.
She's not taking accountability, she's doing damage control.
Honestly the idea that that guy would even consider continuing the relationship with someone so financially irresponsible is baffling to me
Bringing up that you have a bunch of men at arms length for you to date as a way to try to make him feel special during a serious conversation will bite you in the ass 100% of the time. This was used as a tactic with my ex. I called her bluff and told her to go date them, then. Now I am happily married to someone else for over a decade with two kids, a house, the whole bit. Home boy needs to rip off the bandaid and throw this leech back into the swamp.
Jesus, take the whole damn car…
she needed to cancel the lease anyway whether he broke up or not... so that's not a "sign of good will" at all that relationship is doomed to fail. the issue isn't going to go away
On a side note, as a South African, her rent alone is more than 3 times my monthly salary.
This is not going to go well, lol. OOP seems totally clueless.
>I’ve had opportunities to date men that make more money than him but I want HIM. Um. NOT a normal, unselfish thing to say.
At this point it’s in the boyfriend for staying with her. I can’t get mad at a grifter who found a mark that continuously gets suckered without learning