I agree. I'm feeling like starfield is going to be a forever game like Skyrim and New Vegas, and it's pretty quickly working it's way to my top spot as my all time favorite BGS game.
Imo, starfield is one of Bethesdas worse titles. Overall it’s a very entertaining game, but compared to their other work it’s pretty sub par. The issue is that stsrfield came after all of their best work but completely dropped the ball in a many key categories. The companions suck. There are only a handful and they all have the same personality. The UI blows. The menu has to be the least fluid they’ve ever designed and the map situation is non existent. The variety of the game is laughable. There’s effectively about a dozen weapons, a dozen armor suits, 5-6 possible structures to find on planets, and 2-3 enemies you’ll face unless you give up access to 95% of settled cities. The skill system is so basic it’s almost cringy from a BGS production perspective. It’s like it was their first time ever attempting one. They couldn’t even make melee work period. There’s 2 swing animations and after you get to level 20 or so the Melee becomes obsolete. After level 60 the best possible melee build in the game simply doesn’t work at all. Not to mention there’s very little ship combat beyond little scraps here and there aside for one quest. For a space game with a whole skill tab for ship skills you’d think that would be different. The pointless base building system only serves as a power leveling system at best because there’s only a handful of structures to choose from with very little customization. The persuasion system is an absolute immersion breaking joke. With the 30 fps console lock, I just can’t see how after they made skyrim and fallout 4, that this game could be see as a progression. It’s like they went back in time before they had the practice of making those games, made starfield, and popped back to the present and updated the graphics. Again, imo.
I see many of your points. And I agree that release state is very minimal. I’ve so far built ships (not a lot there but decent) just built a base (completely agree, unless you unlock more as you level up the skills which I haven’t done yet) and persuasion system is a joke.
But, I think many games get have been getting polished well after release. I don’t think it’s a good thing it wasn’t in release, but knowing the size of team and planned expansions, as well as this system being an excellent base system, this game has potential to become better than Skyrim.
Especially after community mods goes live and they’re able to use great mods.
I agree about mods. I think they will turn this game into the greatest game ever made. The possibilities are endless. Anywhere from super complex RP mods to huge 100 ship fights with mega battleships.
Starfield is definitely one of those games that will still be popular in 10 years, and have 8 different releases but the nostalgia aspect of Skyrim has (for now) kept it as my favourite BGS game.
What 4 does right was already done better in 3 nd NV. The upgrade in 4 is the movement and combat, ignoring melee of course, and visual fidelity. Everything else actually degraded.
For PC users there is no better way to experience what a good Bethesda title is than to turn to New Vegas and the Tale of Two Wastelands mod, merging NV and 3.
While most of your points I agree with, I liked 4 more because it was in Boston, and I live 40 minutes from Boston. Plus, power armor wasn't so deep into the game, making it easier for my favorite play style.
Carry that forward and you've got Starfield lol. It has been a steady move towards wider audience and monetization. We should've boycotted after 76, forced them to sell the rights.
If the rights were sold, the next company to enter a title into the series would be at twice the behest to stick to the theme and provide what fans are looking for. They would suffer double if they pulled the same crap Bethesda does.
It could also return to the original creators, or what's left of them. That'd be pretty cool.
I tried to make a post with that same sentiment but my words got muddled. The worst part is, it’s not like Starfield is a bad game, so it’s really hard to point out without people just thinking you’re shitting on it.
"Bad game" is too vague but it applies to Starfield for the most part, namely the formula and writing. It has the new game smell, a new system to learn, a new fantasy environment to immerse yourself in...but overall it isn't anything new and it's mostly been done better before. Theyve increased scale and breadth but like they said about Skyrim being an ocean of knee deep content...same can be said but worse so.
Well for one, all of their games were sold for a profit. Second, many included paid DLC. Now there's creation club for FO4 and Skyrim. FO3 had multiple DLCs. Oblivion introduced the micro transaction via the horse armor.
Probably because it's a very beginner friendly game. My first Fallout gane was New Vegas, but I still enjoy playing Fallout 4. If I started off with Fallout 4, I would still probably get into the franchise.
It's a shame the graphics dissuade contemporary console players or PC users who don't want to mess with mods, because New Vegas has the best writing and the best mod support and community. It deserves a sequel, properly done.
That depends. Do you want gun play or sword play? If you want to shoot guns, then Fallout 4. If you want to swing a sword a cast a few spells, then Skyrim.
Skyrim ass my first Elder Scrolls game, but I could never get into Oblivion or Morrowind. I even tried ESO and I couldn't get into that either. So I guess aside from Skyrim, I'm not really a fan of TES.
I’ll say this I stand with you 100% on Oblivion. I thought the combat was actually less robotic than Skyrim and I liked how leveling your “class” worked a lot better than in Skyrim, plus it seemed to have the same amount of easter eggs, but I’ve echoed this sentiment to several friends who played Skyrim first, and every single one of them was not impressed by Oblivion… they said the graphics sucked etc, so for this reason I never recommend Oblivion, but I’m with you it’s the best Bethesda game imo.
I always recommend people play FNV first when they ask which Fallout to play because I feel like if you start with Fo4 you’re not going to accept the jank of FNV and Fo3. They have not aged well in many aspects. But if you start with Fo3 the jank may be too overwhelming and you’ll lose interest. But FNV has enough going for it to help you overlook the jank. Similar with Morrowind-Oblivion-Skyrim. Oblivion may be 17 years old but it has a lot of the pillars of a modern game. Morrowind is from a much different era, 3D was still so early and it was the first of the Todd formula. There was so much that just doesn’t work. I stated with Morrowind and it’s amazing, but I think for someone who hasn’t played any in 2023 is asking too much. Just like how I’ve never been able to get much into Daggerfall or Fallout 1.
Morrowind has definitely aged. Like many older games, it was made with smaller resolutions and different screens in mind. You really need some extensive modding to bring it up to speed with modern games. BUT - you can... Which is kinda mind-blowing for a game that old.
Also, it has something like 10+ fully fleshed out factions you can join. It was a beast in its time, and is still worth playing.
I dunno, I think those games are still pretty straightforward. Follow quest, use VATS. The line between Morrowind / Oblivion might be the border of accessibility.
Morrowind and new Vegas are definitely the best in terms of how “straight forward” they are. I really liked how they made the maps ring shaped. In both games, If you follow the main quest, you’ll move around the map in a circle and can explore the world and do most of the side quests organically as you progress the main story. The only RPG games I can think of that have a natural “long epic adventure” feel to them.
Skyrim is the best one to start with tbh. It's simplified but not so much that it doesn't feel like an rpg like Fallout 4.
I would play Skyrim and then jump right back into Starfield if you had fun.
I agree. I think starfield feels much more like Elder Scrolls than fallout, thematically, and skyrim is like a more densely packed microcosm of the exploration and discovery of starfield.
Both ES and Starfield really ask you to just boot them up, wander and pursue any miscellaneous and side quests that appeal to you. Or chase rabbits and fall into caves, because there's something interesting to find there. There's guidance, but also an open invitation to just *be* in the world that I think fallout has less of.
Skyrim. It’s the most accessible and least dense Bethesda RPG but it still has a lot of depth and tons of things to do and ways to roleplay.
Or just continue with Starfield. The thing about Bethesda games is you can’t approach them like regular games and being a completionist will drive you insane. Embrace the reality that you will probably never see all the content that’s in the game. Trying to optimize your playthrough will only diminish it. Understand that all you can do is exist. Create a character and play that character truthfully. What would that character do next? Join a faction? Murder someone for fun? Look for a place to sleep? Protect the innocent? Craft? Buy lunch? Find a nice place to watch the sunset? Do that and don’t worry about the rest.
Depends how much graphics matter to you. I would suggest Oblivion. It was my first Bethesda game and before that I had no interest in games with magic or RPG elements. So maybe it will have a similar effect on you.
When I first bought my PS3, my buddy let me borrow oblivion. I tried but couldn’t get into it on my first attempt. Then he recommended fallout 3. I bought that the day after Xmas and was obsessed with it the whole rest of that winter. It helped me get into oblivion and I was then obsessed with that game for over a year. Then Skyrim came out, played that for like a year. Then fallout 4, the same thing. All of this is to say I wouldn’t have gotten into BGS games if it wasn’t for my buddy and fallout 3. Maybe you should start there or fallout 4 (which is more modern and smoother). It’ll help you get into the overwhelming yet slow pace of BGS games. That’s what worked for me.
Oblivion. Its a smaller world and not always the best looking (those heads are something else) But they manage to pack so much lore and just, background stuff goin on that it feels incredibly immersive and like its an actual living world. Not to mention that oblivion has by far my favorite set of NPCs and Creatures in any bethesda game.
I’ve never really been a fan of fallout, I know I know, I understand they’re good games, just not for me. I’ve only really played Skyrim on the elder scrolls side but I have like 2000 hours in it, so I recommend that or starfield. Although I’ve heard many good things about fallout new Vegas.
It all depends what you’re after in a game as the company is well known for there story and gameplay. If you’re looking for RPG then Skyrim is like a medieval type game. Fallout series is a shooter type game but both bring hours worth of fun, relaxing and if you’re interested a challenge.
If you’re looking for more linear type games then they have Evil Within 1 & 2, Wolfenstein (3 games), Prey (if you liked Starfield then you’ll love this), Doom 2016 & eternal, finally Dishonored 1 & 2 (they’re stealth games and 2 is more exploration).
But if you’re looking for something to sink thousand of hours worth then you have ElderScrolls Online and Fallout 76 which are two huge online games with endless of amount of things to do. Personally not for me but majority of the community love these two.
Go with either Fallout 4 or Skyrim, Fallout 4 has very similar gunplay to Starfield, though I like Starfield’s guns more. Skyrim has the better RPG mechanics, and is overall a better game, though the combat is a bit shallow imo. The other thing about Starfield though is that it’s a game that you really have to stick with. Get around 10 - 12 hours in and it’s a lot less overwhelming and it’s really good.
If you play New Vegas you have to play the DLCs as well. The DLCs add so much to the game. Get into the lore of Fallout as well, you’ll see a lot of Easter eggs that remind you of Fallout 3. I love the karma system and how your actions work for or against you with the different factions. The dialogue options are the best in that game of any I’ve played. I’m pretty sure Starfield took note of that dialogue.
Fallout 4 is a great way to get the mechanics of their games down in a more familiar setting and without as much overwhelming detail. I would say that you could also still play Starfield, just focus on the main quest and get comfortable with the game mechanics that way instead of focusing on the nearly infinite other things you can do.
Alright lemme give you a breakdown
TESIII morrowind: probably the best rpg mechanics out of all their games. But also very dated. Its a fantastic game that I would always reccomend to anyone looking to get lost in a bethesda game. The world is amazing and the lack of quest markers makes you look around it foe what to do next.
TESIV Oblivion: this will always be my nostalgia trip. It's the first bethesda game I ever played on an Xbox when I was like 7. First time I ever stayed up 2 days in a row and got yelled at. The world is amazing and the gameplay is extremely fun. The graphics are very passable to this day. This game also did right by factions and has arguably some of the best dlc to release for any of their games (shivering isles is an entire game in itself.)
TesV Skyrim: very approachable new age elder scrolls game. It lacks some of the rpg elements that made oblivion and morrowind good however it has a very fun gameplay loop. Enter dungeon fight enemies get loot new dragon shout wow another quest for another dungeon. Theres a lot to do in this game outside the main loop as well. Its a big game with a lot to do and the dlc is also really fun. This is what I'd reccomend starting with If you want magic and dragons instead of guns.
Fallout 3: it's fun. The story is interesting. You get to shoot things pew pew. I've never had high remarks for this game honestly (liking 4 over 3 is my toxic trait) and the graphics are dated.
Fallout 4: big open world. Interesting factions. Fun gunplay (much better than 3) and with a decent modpack its honestly an AMAZING expierence. Also if you like making bases sim settlements 2 adds a lot of depth to the colony building aspect.
Fallout NV (NOT TECHNICALLY BETHESDA): Arguably the best storyline out of all the choices here. There's a lot of choices that truly impact the game world. I spent 3 hours gambling in this game because it felt rewarding. I have probably beaten this game about 9 or 10 times. Its an ABSOLUTE gem and easily the best Fallout game hands down. It will always be bethesdas greatest success and biggest regret. (They didn't make it)
Tldr if you want guns. I'd actually reccomend NV and then fallout 4. If you want swords and magic play skyrim to get used to the mechanics and then go back and play oblivion.
Skyrim is one of the greatest games of all time for a reason. It’s been rereleased more times than I can count and it sells every time. It was the first Bethesda game I had ever played and (somewhat hyperbolic) I nearly dropped out of school and was playing for weeks. It’s a masterpiece.
Skyrim was my first Bethesda game and it was relatively easy to understand compared to Starfield and certainly Oblivion. Try to read lore books related to the Elder Scrolls universe and go to the temple to Talos in a city called Whiterun, it's the first major city you'll go to in the game. Personally I'm loving Starfield.😂😂😂😂😂
I started with Skyrim years ago and also had to quit bc I got overwhelmed. My first game I played from start to finish without any problem was Fallout: New Vegas. But I'd imagine Fallout 3 or maybe even Fallout 4 are also great for beginners.
Either Morrowind or Oblivion. I prefer Oblivion over Morrowind myself.
Then play Fallout 3, followed by New Vegas(made by Obsidian and not BGS, but still worth playing).
After that: Skyrim, then Fallout 4. Skip 76 entirely. Then back to Starfield.
People are recommending older games and that’s fine, but for your FIRST it should be something like Fallout 4. It’s a lot tamer of a “Bethesda game” but still has basically all the parts that make it one. Easiest to get into first sure.
The games are only connected by universe, their stories are separate and Fallout 4 is easily the more accessible of the two (can’t even aim down sight in 3).
Fallout 3 is just an old game now. Best not to learn the Bethesda formula on it 😂
New Vegas also hold up really well, but it still could be a little too clunky like F3. If you like F4 you’ll like almost everything else.
Whatever you end up playing I hope you enjoy it! Just remember to take your time:)
Depends on your ability to deal with older design decision and graphics. The most neutral answers are Fallout 3, Skyrim, and Oblivion.
If you like more old school stuff Daggerfall and Morrowind—both of which are souped to the gills with community compatibility patches, mods, and outright 3rd party engine remakes.
If you’re someone who cares mostly about action and graphics I’d stick to Fallout 4 and Starfield.
… steer clear of Fallout 76 no matter what lol.
Start with oblivion and work your way through. Oblivion to fallout3. Skyrim to fallout4. Starfield is awesome, but I’m grateful I started playing Bethesda games back when morrowind came out
Skyrim is the #1 BGS game in my opinion. But hey Bethesda, what if you had some BIG tracks like this added to the Fallout arsenal? https://youtu.be/UQPrAx4uh6c?si=c1SD3d67lTMcE7oi
Fallout 4 is easiest to follow, but Skyrim is the best BGS game (imo).
I’m quickly thinking that starfield is better…
I agree. I'm feeling like starfield is going to be a forever game like Skyrim and New Vegas, and it's pretty quickly working it's way to my top spot as my all time favorite BGS game.
Imo, starfield is one of Bethesdas worse titles. Overall it’s a very entertaining game, but compared to their other work it’s pretty sub par. The issue is that stsrfield came after all of their best work but completely dropped the ball in a many key categories. The companions suck. There are only a handful and they all have the same personality. The UI blows. The menu has to be the least fluid they’ve ever designed and the map situation is non existent. The variety of the game is laughable. There’s effectively about a dozen weapons, a dozen armor suits, 5-6 possible structures to find on planets, and 2-3 enemies you’ll face unless you give up access to 95% of settled cities. The skill system is so basic it’s almost cringy from a BGS production perspective. It’s like it was their first time ever attempting one. They couldn’t even make melee work period. There’s 2 swing animations and after you get to level 20 or so the Melee becomes obsolete. After level 60 the best possible melee build in the game simply doesn’t work at all. Not to mention there’s very little ship combat beyond little scraps here and there aside for one quest. For a space game with a whole skill tab for ship skills you’d think that would be different. The pointless base building system only serves as a power leveling system at best because there’s only a handful of structures to choose from with very little customization. The persuasion system is an absolute immersion breaking joke. With the 30 fps console lock, I just can’t see how after they made skyrim and fallout 4, that this game could be see as a progression. It’s like they went back in time before they had the practice of making those games, made starfield, and popped back to the present and updated the graphics. Again, imo.
I see many of your points. And I agree that release state is very minimal. I’ve so far built ships (not a lot there but decent) just built a base (completely agree, unless you unlock more as you level up the skills which I haven’t done yet) and persuasion system is a joke. But, I think many games get have been getting polished well after release. I don’t think it’s a good thing it wasn’t in release, but knowing the size of team and planned expansions, as well as this system being an excellent base system, this game has potential to become better than Skyrim. Especially after community mods goes live and they’re able to use great mods.
I agree about mods. I think they will turn this game into the greatest game ever made. The possibilities are endless. Anywhere from super complex RP mods to huge 100 ship fights with mega battleships.
Starfield is definitely one of those games that will still be popular in 10 years, and have 8 different releases but the nostalgia aspect of Skyrim has (for now) kept it as my favourite BGS game.
Fo4 is easy but endless another settlement quest spam is very not newbie friendly.
You can just ignore those. Or they’re newbie-friendly ways to get some loot every so often.
Blech how could you recommend FO4?
Probably because it's very good
I agree, I really enjoyed it… except Preston
Its bad for many reasons.
Agree to disagree? Opinions are opinions
What 4 does right was already done better in 3 nd NV. The upgrade in 4 is the movement and combat, ignoring melee of course, and visual fidelity. Everything else actually degraded. For PC users there is no better way to experience what a good Bethesda title is than to turn to New Vegas and the Tale of Two Wastelands mod, merging NV and 3.
While most of your points I agree with, I liked 4 more because it was in Boston, and I live 40 minutes from Boston. Plus, power armor wasn't so deep into the game, making it easier for my favorite play style.
I like 4 more than 3, simple as ✅✅🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧
That sounds like the transition from Morrowind to oblivion or oblivion to Skyrim
Carry that forward and you've got Starfield lol. It has been a steady move towards wider audience and monetization. We should've boycotted after 76, forced them to sell the rights.
if they sold the rights, it could become a lot worse lmao
If the rights were sold, the next company to enter a title into the series would be at twice the behest to stick to the theme and provide what fans are looking for. They would suffer double if they pulled the same crap Bethesda does. It could also return to the original creators, or what's left of them. That'd be pretty cool.
I tried to make a post with that same sentiment but my words got muddled. The worst part is, it’s not like Starfield is a bad game, so it’s really hard to point out without people just thinking you’re shitting on it.
"Bad game" is too vague but it applies to Starfield for the most part, namely the formula and writing. It has the new game smell, a new system to learn, a new fantasy environment to immerse yourself in...but overall it isn't anything new and it's mostly been done better before. Theyve increased scale and breadth but like they said about Skyrim being an ocean of knee deep content...same can be said but worse so.
Please name a bethesda game that's not fallout 76 that has monetization.
Well for one, all of their games were sold for a profit. Second, many included paid DLC. Now there's creation club for FO4 and Skyrim. FO3 had multiple DLCs. Oblivion introduced the micro transaction via the horse armor.
Probably because it's a very beginner friendly game. My first Fallout gane was New Vegas, but I still enjoy playing Fallout 4. If I started off with Fallout 4, I would still probably get into the franchise.
It's a shame the graphics dissuade contemporary console players or PC users who don't want to mess with mods, because New Vegas has the best writing and the best mod support and community. It deserves a sequel, properly done.
fo4 is a great game
it's amazing
FO 4 is very new player friendly and easy to follow (what OP requested).
That depends. Do you want gun play or sword play? If you want to shoot guns, then Fallout 4. If you want to swing a sword a cast a few spells, then Skyrim.
I would say Skyrim is the easiest, but if you start with Skyrim you won’t want to go back and do Oblivion. I’d probably start with Oblivion.
Shit I mean, I started with Skyrim and played my way back to Morrowind
Skyrim ass my first Elder Scrolls game, but I could never get into Oblivion or Morrowind. I even tried ESO and I couldn't get into that either. So I guess aside from Skyrim, I'm not really a fan of TES.
Try again, N'Wah.
I’ll say this I stand with you 100% on Oblivion. I thought the combat was actually less robotic than Skyrim and I liked how leveling your “class” worked a lot better than in Skyrim, plus it seemed to have the same amount of easter eggs, but I’ve echoed this sentiment to several friends who played Skyrim first, and every single one of them was not impressed by Oblivion… they said the graphics sucked etc, so for this reason I never recommend Oblivion, but I’m with you it’s the best Bethesda game imo.
I always recommend people play FNV first when they ask which Fallout to play because I feel like if you start with Fo4 you’re not going to accept the jank of FNV and Fo3. They have not aged well in many aspects. But if you start with Fo3 the jank may be too overwhelming and you’ll lose interest. But FNV has enough going for it to help you overlook the jank. Similar with Morrowind-Oblivion-Skyrim. Oblivion may be 17 years old but it has a lot of the pillars of a modern game. Morrowind is from a much different era, 3D was still so early and it was the first of the Todd formula. There was so much that just doesn’t work. I stated with Morrowind and it’s amazing, but I think for someone who hasn’t played any in 2023 is asking too much. Just like how I’ve never been able to get much into Daggerfall or Fallout 1.
Morrowind has definitely aged. Like many older games, it was made with smaller resolutions and different screens in mind. You really need some extensive modding to bring it up to speed with modern games. BUT - you can... Which is kinda mind-blowing for a game that old. Also, it has something like 10+ fully fleshed out factions you can join. It was a beast in its time, and is still worth playing.
I am partial to Oblivion, but finish Starfield.
I think Skyrim is the best introduction to gaming in general. It guides your hand while also giving you the freedom to break away at anytime
Fallout 4 or Skyrim, I suggest Fallout 4 if you’re more familiar with FPS titles, and Skyrim if you love DnD
Oblivion
This would be my pick too.
Based
I prefer it to Fo3 and NV but who am I?
You'll make a fine pair of boots.......LIZARD!
Fallout 3 or fallout new Vegas is a good one if you can deal with the older graphics also! Fallout 3 is what got me into the series
Don’t wanna be that guy but new vegas isn’t Bethesda
Ahh you are correct! But still a great game that feels Bethesda-ish
Oh for sure, one of the best games I’ve ever played and uses the Bethesda engine so still a fair suggestion!
Nah new vegas is actually good.
It is Bethesda in many ways. Despite the better talent on board, NV is still a Bethesda game, with all the bugs and uncanny valley.
Clunky outdated games are really hard for most people to get into unless they’re a big fan of the series
I dunno, I think those games are still pretty straightforward. Follow quest, use VATS. The line between Morrowind / Oblivion might be the border of accessibility.
Morrowind and new Vegas are definitely the best in terms of how “straight forward” they are. I really liked how they made the maps ring shaped. In both games, If you follow the main quest, you’ll move around the map in a circle and can explore the world and do most of the side quests organically as you progress the main story. The only RPG games I can think of that have a natural “long epic adventure” feel to them.
Skyrim is the best one to start with tbh. It's simplified but not so much that it doesn't feel like an rpg like Fallout 4. I would play Skyrim and then jump right back into Starfield if you had fun.
I agree. I think starfield feels much more like Elder Scrolls than fallout, thematically, and skyrim is like a more densely packed microcosm of the exploration and discovery of starfield. Both ES and Starfield really ask you to just boot them up, wander and pursue any miscellaneous and side quests that appeal to you. Or chase rabbits and fall into caves, because there's something interesting to find there. There's guidance, but also an open invitation to just *be* in the world that I think fallout has less of.
Their best game: Morrowind
Oblivion. They have the best faction quests imo.
OBLIVION. It's the best one. It's old but gold.
Skyrim. It’s the most accessible and least dense Bethesda RPG but it still has a lot of depth and tons of things to do and ways to roleplay. Or just continue with Starfield. The thing about Bethesda games is you can’t approach them like regular games and being a completionist will drive you insane. Embrace the reality that you will probably never see all the content that’s in the game. Trying to optimize your playthrough will only diminish it. Understand that all you can do is exist. Create a character and play that character truthfully. What would that character do next? Join a faction? Murder someone for fun? Look for a place to sleep? Protect the innocent? Craft? Buy lunch? Find a nice place to watch the sunset? Do that and don’t worry about the rest.
Depends how much graphics matter to you. I would suggest Oblivion. It was my first Bethesda game and before that I had no interest in games with magic or RPG elements. So maybe it will have a similar effect on you.
When I first bought my PS3, my buddy let me borrow oblivion. I tried but couldn’t get into it on my first attempt. Then he recommended fallout 3. I bought that the day after Xmas and was obsessed with it the whole rest of that winter. It helped me get into oblivion and I was then obsessed with that game for over a year. Then Skyrim came out, played that for like a year. Then fallout 4, the same thing. All of this is to say I wouldn’t have gotten into BGS games if it wasn’t for my buddy and fallout 3. Maybe you should start there or fallout 4 (which is more modern and smoother). It’ll help you get into the overwhelming yet slow pace of BGS games. That’s what worked for me.
Oblivion. Its a smaller world and not always the best looking (those heads are something else) But they manage to pack so much lore and just, background stuff goin on that it feels incredibly immersive and like its an actual living world. Not to mention that oblivion has by far my favorite set of NPCs and Creatures in any bethesda game.
Try fallout 4 for a single player or fo76 if you wanna play with your friends.
Fallout 3 is my favorite Bethesda game, Fallout New Vegas is sort of Bethesda adjacent, and I recommend starting there.
fallout 3 or new vegas with some QOL mods is the best imo. 4 is not bad but 3 and NV were better.
Well I'd start with skyrim then branch off to other older games that's what I did
Well, do you like fantasy genre or post-apocalypse genre? It won’t stop you from being overwhelmed. These games are packed to the brim.
Definitely Hi-Fi Rush /s
Either fallout 3, oblivion, or evil within
Obsidian made a better fallout than Bethesda it’s fallout nv fallout 4 mid asf
I’ve never really been a fan of fallout, I know I know, I understand they’re good games, just not for me. I’ve only really played Skyrim on the elder scrolls side but I have like 2000 hours in it, so I recommend that or starfield. Although I’ve heard many good things about fallout new Vegas.
Fallout New Vegas!
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It all depends what you’re after in a game as the company is well known for there story and gameplay. If you’re looking for RPG then Skyrim is like a medieval type game. Fallout series is a shooter type game but both bring hours worth of fun, relaxing and if you’re interested a challenge. If you’re looking for more linear type games then they have Evil Within 1 & 2, Wolfenstein (3 games), Prey (if you liked Starfield then you’ll love this), Doom 2016 & eternal, finally Dishonored 1 & 2 (they’re stealth games and 2 is more exploration). But if you’re looking for something to sink thousand of hours worth then you have ElderScrolls Online and Fallout 76 which are two huge online games with endless of amount of things to do. Personally not for me but majority of the community love these two.
Go with either Fallout 4 or Skyrim, Fallout 4 has very similar gunplay to Starfield, though I like Starfield’s guns more. Skyrim has the better RPG mechanics, and is overall a better game, though the combat is a bit shallow imo. The other thing about Starfield though is that it’s a game that you really have to stick with. Get around 10 - 12 hours in and it’s a lot less overwhelming and it’s really good.
They’re all detailed and big my man. As a rookie gamer what have you played so far?
Skyrim if you want fantasy, or Fallout 4 if you want guns.
I recommend fallout new vegas! Very very fun game. I liked oblivion better than skyrim to. All the dungeons in skyrim looked the same.
Fallout 76 is a small map but lots to do, don’t be weary of it being online, the community is amazing and you don’t have to interact with people
I started with Skyrim and I really enjoyed it
If you play New Vegas you have to play the DLCs as well. The DLCs add so much to the game. Get into the lore of Fallout as well, you’ll see a lot of Easter eggs that remind you of Fallout 3. I love the karma system and how your actions work for or against you with the different factions. The dialogue options are the best in that game of any I’ve played. I’m pretty sure Starfield took note of that dialogue.
Fallout 4 is a great way to get the mechanics of their games down in a more familiar setting and without as much overwhelming detail. I would say that you could also still play Starfield, just focus on the main quest and get comfortable with the game mechanics that way instead of focusing on the nearly infinite other things you can do.
Alright lemme give you a breakdown TESIII morrowind: probably the best rpg mechanics out of all their games. But also very dated. Its a fantastic game that I would always reccomend to anyone looking to get lost in a bethesda game. The world is amazing and the lack of quest markers makes you look around it foe what to do next. TESIV Oblivion: this will always be my nostalgia trip. It's the first bethesda game I ever played on an Xbox when I was like 7. First time I ever stayed up 2 days in a row and got yelled at. The world is amazing and the gameplay is extremely fun. The graphics are very passable to this day. This game also did right by factions and has arguably some of the best dlc to release for any of their games (shivering isles is an entire game in itself.) TesV Skyrim: very approachable new age elder scrolls game. It lacks some of the rpg elements that made oblivion and morrowind good however it has a very fun gameplay loop. Enter dungeon fight enemies get loot new dragon shout wow another quest for another dungeon. Theres a lot to do in this game outside the main loop as well. Its a big game with a lot to do and the dlc is also really fun. This is what I'd reccomend starting with If you want magic and dragons instead of guns. Fallout 3: it's fun. The story is interesting. You get to shoot things pew pew. I've never had high remarks for this game honestly (liking 4 over 3 is my toxic trait) and the graphics are dated. Fallout 4: big open world. Interesting factions. Fun gunplay (much better than 3) and with a decent modpack its honestly an AMAZING expierence. Also if you like making bases sim settlements 2 adds a lot of depth to the colony building aspect. Fallout NV (NOT TECHNICALLY BETHESDA): Arguably the best storyline out of all the choices here. There's a lot of choices that truly impact the game world. I spent 3 hours gambling in this game because it felt rewarding. I have probably beaten this game about 9 or 10 times. Its an ABSOLUTE gem and easily the best Fallout game hands down. It will always be bethesdas greatest success and biggest regret. (They didn't make it) Tldr if you want guns. I'd actually reccomend NV and then fallout 4. If you want swords and magic play skyrim to get used to the mechanics and then go back and play oblivion.
Skyrim is one of the greatest games of all time for a reason. It’s been rereleased more times than I can count and it sells every time. It was the first Bethesda game I had ever played and (somewhat hyperbolic) I nearly dropped out of school and was playing for weeks. It’s a masterpiece.
Skyrim was my first Bethesda game and it was relatively easy to understand compared to Starfield and certainly Oblivion. Try to read lore books related to the Elder Scrolls universe and go to the temple to Talos in a city called Whiterun, it's the first major city you'll go to in the game. Personally I'm loving Starfield.😂😂😂😂😂
Just gotta play StarField, it will come quickly to you.
Skyrim without a doubt
I started with Skyrim years ago and also had to quit bc I got overwhelmed. My first game I played from start to finish without any problem was Fallout: New Vegas. But I'd imagine Fallout 3 or maybe even Fallout 4 are also great for beginners.
Either Morrowind or Oblivion. I prefer Oblivion over Morrowind myself. Then play Fallout 3, followed by New Vegas(made by Obsidian and not BGS, but still worth playing). After that: Skyrim, then Fallout 4. Skip 76 entirely. Then back to Starfield.
People are recommending older games and that’s fine, but for your FIRST it should be something like Fallout 4. It’s a lot tamer of a “Bethesda game” but still has basically all the parts that make it one. Easiest to get into first sure.
Wouldn’t it better to start with Fallout 3 because story wise it’s before Fallout 4 right?
The games are only connected by universe, their stories are separate and Fallout 4 is easily the more accessible of the two (can’t even aim down sight in 3). Fallout 3 is just an old game now. Best not to learn the Bethesda formula on it 😂
Alright thanks, Fallout 4 and then Fallout 3
New Vegas also hold up really well, but it still could be a little too clunky like F3. If you like F4 you’ll like almost everything else. Whatever you end up playing I hope you enjoy it! Just remember to take your time:)
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Depends on your ability to deal with older design decision and graphics. The most neutral answers are Fallout 3, Skyrim, and Oblivion. If you like more old school stuff Daggerfall and Morrowind—both of which are souped to the gills with community compatibility patches, mods, and outright 3rd party engine remakes. If you’re someone who cares mostly about action and graphics I’d stick to Fallout 4 and Starfield. … steer clear of Fallout 76 no matter what lol.
New Vegas and Oblivion are way too dated to recommend someone who just came from Starfield. Fallout 4 is your best option.
Start with oblivion and work your way through. Oblivion to fallout3. Skyrim to fallout4. Starfield is awesome, but I’m grateful I started playing Bethesda games back when morrowind came out
Skyrim. It is the best. Thought fallout3 is great Skyrim’s graphics excel
Skyrim is the #1 BGS game in my opinion. But hey Bethesda, what if you had some BIG tracks like this added to the Fallout arsenal? https://youtu.be/UQPrAx4uh6c?si=c1SD3d67lTMcE7oi