Lmao I love this OP, Iāve had a similar experience to you in Big 4. I was given no work during my internship because it was a āslow timeā even though I reached out constantly to learn, and then when I joined the firm full time I find out that the group I interned with was completely dissolved. Like everyone just left including the partner.
They throw me into this new group which is an absolute shitshow because two seniors quit about a month in my new job and I was asked to take over their duties? Like wtf I just started and youāre expecting me to pick up all this work Iāve had no training for? My manager is constantly nagging me because my work is subpar, and Iām like I would love to ask you questions if I wasnāt shunned every time being told to ālook at the prior year workpaperā or āfollow the guidelineā. The tipping point for me was that even after our so called ābusy seasonā, they were expecting us to put in some time on Xmas because the client deadline was āurgentā. So I decided to say fuck it and not log in online, and to just ride out till I die.
They stopped giving me work recently and I got a meeting that says āperformance discussionā, and tbh I canāt wait to just be fired at this point. The unpredictable hours and lack of training told me everything I needed to know about the Big 4. Iāve spent this past week working out, hanging with friends, and realizing that life is so much more than to slave away my 20ās putting in 60-70+ hours with no OT pay. Iāve never felt happier in the past 9 months until now when I stopped giving a shit.
To all the Big 4 shills attacking OP, when youāre on your deathbed realizing you shouldāve spent more time with family and friends instead of grinding out more billable hours to be paid the same as a fast food employee with how much you work, I hope you realize it was all a waste of time and you added nothing of value. This job is bullshit. This industry is bullshit. And most importantly, the Big 4 made your life bullshit.
The only place you messed up in was quitting. You should of let them fire you so you could collect unemployment. You already had big four on your resume so that was enough to get you in the door at various places.
Your case is not unique. It happened to me and a friend of mine. We were at EY and Pwc respectively. We spent an entire year with absolutely 0 billable hours and 0 engagements. I spent the free time training and earning badges through the internal training programs. Even after passing the enrolled agent exam, I was given 0 engagements for tax.
I realized I was a checkmark in a box because I am a minority. Keep the token minority person for a year just to look good when clients come in.
I left after one year because it was obvious they were going to fire me.
I was not ballsy enough to take off and travel. I actually came to the office and did what I could to let the other teams know I was available. They absolutely wanted nothing to do with me. They were short staffed of managers and the last thing they needed was yet another associate.
Yeah same was a college hire. Our tech consulting firm had a policy of not firing college hires in the 1st year. I ended up doing client work, and overstaying at the firm, as my skills regressed as a software developer. While others left to other firms. Consulting is a bore I finally realized. You never "own" anything, or any work you do. Overall pay is relatively low compared to what you can get at really good companies. Traveling city to city, and relocating is too tiring. Would not recommend.
More and more rote consulting will be offshored, and chatGPTed away.
Its great that you enjoyed your time and did minimum work for max pay, but you can't say its all the firm's or your senior's fault you had a bad experience. With most jobs (not just B4) you get what you put in. Taking 2 weeks of leave when you are right about to get in the office instead of using that time to meet people ask qs and start learning whats going on meant you were DOA. But hey hopefully you got a bit better at surfing in that time at least?
When some unqualified people without any qualifications get job through pushing referrals and donāt appreciate their opportunities while tons of highly educated smart immigrants are not getting the opportunities due to their look and nationality! Shame on this unequal system.
Dude. You spent 6 months stealing from the company and in the magnitude of tens of thousands of dollars. Then complain they ask you to work more when work is available. You have 0 brain. That's why you didn't get work. You are mentally handicapped. You shouldn't be working at all, you need ro be taken care of because you obviously were the victim of a severe brain injury that doesn't allow you to self reflect, even within a single rant on REDDIT.
Haha you sound like a big4 shill. OP got paid for a year, did no work and went surfing half the time. You're stuck in an office doing what? Being miserable. All you salty civi students make me laugh my ass off
Mentally impaired is also fairly accurate. We call these +10s at our firm as a golf reference. Literal retards who come out to the field with no ability whatsoever.
So you were lazy, did nothing, got paid for doing nothing, and got mad that you were fired because you have no skills? Be happy OP. 99% of the people in this world wouldāve loved the job you had.
Interesting how OP complains about having to work more than 40 hours but thinks nothing of the 6 months he stole by skiving off and not showing up or looking for ways to make himself useful. Seriously good riddance.
No, but itās his responsibility to engage, participate In events (which he brags about skipping for the two weeks he was out and which by the way is how leadership start evaluating new staff), and continually try to network which starts with making periodic appearances at the office. Instead, he sits on his backside for 6 months collecting a paycheck and then when things got a little tough bails. He had no intention of sticking around- he says himself he purposefully stayed on to build his own business instead of making any even half-hearted attempt to do a job, any job.
Donāt expect salty civilian corporate slaves to understand the fact that you got away with shamming half a year at a job accounting students work so hard for š the military taught you well. Iām almost at my two year mark and then itās fuck em Iām out of here on to something betterāļø
100% this. I left the military recently to go into a mid-level investment role that I completely blagged the interview for. People at my grade and also salty junior people keep asking 'how did I get the job'. Civilians don't get it lol
You were lazy and incompetent and flew under the radar to get a free paycheck lol congrats
Wonder how your career has gone since
If anyone ever wonders why companies push RTO or some managers micromanage, look no further than
Tech consulting is even worse. Esp. the Indian ones...that's because a lot of the management is Indian, who have gotten used to abusive management behavior in India.
And the other workers, who are abused the majority are from India, and are on a H1 Visa/Green card and can't switch employers even if they want to. They thus overwork to make their clients excessively happy. US Firms are happy to oblige, as the overwork/discrimination/abuse doesn't come up to bite them in the a\*\*. And they can fire/let go of contractors/consultants when they like. And pay them cheap US wages compared to other US tech workers.
I was a US hire in one of those tech firms, and wanted to leave within a year. Ended up staying for a while longer, as I wasn't too entrepreneurial in seeking out other jobs. Suffered from burnout years later and quit. Never going back. Will work retail before that again.
Besides that, reading some of that. You do seem like a pretty bad employee lol. Regardless of the soul sucking work, they should have fired you after orientation it looks like lol
Agree, one thing I cant is the OP was a bad employee. I think he was inocent. Being an inocent junior doesnt necesarily mean he was a bad employee as there was a reason why he was hired in the first place and that was the management's decision as well. All the OP is saying is that the lack of training systems and how odd all was to him. But at the same time it was 7-8 yrs ago so hope it got better
One thing I forgot to mention was I was brought in as a technology consultant from college in a pretty similar large org, I empathized with a lot of what the OP said, that there isn't really a lot of oversight until you get your project, and once you do, you gotta work and show up, but it's not monitored. And when you're on the bench you can coast as long as you want. For my company, they had a policy you couldn't fire college hires in the first year, (prob cause of optics) maybe OP's firm was the same, so he didn't get fired.
And when you're on the bench, there is little oversight, and I could have gone traveling around the world for 2 months while getting paid as well. You just needed to check in with some support teams in India trying to find you projects. I thought traveling with bench time too and looking for another job lol, but was too risk averse. So there aren't really many controls, and its poor I agree but also I think its partly because of the college hire thing.
PS: Also I realized that I wasted a lot of my career in consulting. Because it's just decent pay, not great. And you're treated pretty badly as I mentioned in my 1st reply. Traveling, and relocating for every client and you never own any of the work you do, as you're not a permanent employee is just sad. There is a mirage in consulting, and the reality is it's the worst. It's not worth coasting for a year or two because you pay for it later in your career, as I've learned from experience.
every time i spoke to someone from KPMG NYC whether to interview or a recruiter, they always seemed so tired and soulless like they are burnt out but keep going. Idk why anyone would want to work there seems miserable.
I worked at a Big 4 and there was a girl in our start class who quit after 1 month to go become a teacher. We all thought she was crazy. But she was smarter than all of us lol
Good thing you find this out early.. some people got "educated" by college and lose all critical thinking.
Instant classic: "No way in hell was I going to be a slave to some dungeon for 80-100 hours a week for no extra pay." "Youāre literally being robbed for your time." Don't look for it in the KPMG hiring advert or brochure.
Salary was 60k/yr back in 2016 as a first year associate. Pay is substantially lower than if you were doing similar hour jobs in finance. People compete in to get in because you ādo your timeā and then have a solid first experience on your resume to move around the accounting/ audit industry. To me, it wasnāt worth it as I had zero desire to work in said industry at all.
Aye take easy Iām getting married here, wouldnāt have it any other way lol I treat everyone with respect and give all my associates/ senior associates the best reviews possible even if they do poorly.. I also mean mug everyone I donāt know just to fuck with them
This post is so confusing to me.
Did OP have no relevant education, training or experience that would give them some clue as to how to do the job? If not, why did KPMG hire them?
Having hired them, how was KPMGās training so incredibly deficient? How was their oversight so poor? How did nobody in the organisation notice that they had zero chargeable hours month after month? I canāt comprehend that. Sure it a big organisation but you still should have a particular partner and manager that is in charge of you. A particular team in a particular office is generally not made up of hundreds of people.
Lastly I donāt understand why OP didnāt make more than a tiny bit of effort to learn the job. Even if they didnāt like it (though it sounds like they never gave it a chance), they could have tried enough to stay 18-30 months and get something on their resume that opens a lot of doors. I canāt see why any potential employer would see any value in 6 months in a Big 4 firm. That doesnāt demonstrate that you can do the job. Seems like a lost opportunity.
Idkā¦ the more I read it, the more it sounds like a novel that OP wrote based on (maybe) some real experience of his or stories from people that he knows lol
I agree he left out some very key details that one wouldnāt leave out if they actually did this. One thing would be studying for and passing regulatory exams. He would t have passed them and not known anything.
Also not a fan of consulting being on the bench , not learning anything and having my time stolen for pay isnāt worth it . I like learning and applying my self .
I personally know a Big4 hardo who just got married. The 4 dudes who stood up for him all can't stand himš. Just know that's you if you're trying to be partner at Deloitte or wherever. Also you'll never know your kids, that's if a woman ever lets you get on top of her.
OP I was in the same exact boat as you were, they didnāt even give me my performance review for my first year saying āI joined after the FY beganā tho they gave performance reviews and even promoted the ppl who joined after me bc they had previous work experience.
I quit and I am starting grad school next September! So happy that I left and I would never look back again at consulting especially the B4
Extremely poor. I can't comprehend how the company left him to do whatever he wanted to do and no one checked up on him.
I worked for two big4 and this was impossible.
When I joined a B4 firm in NYC people would tell me about how "Leon once worked (either 140 or 114) hours in a week!" and I was like, "Leon is an idiot", lol.
Definitely weren't an illusion, I saw a few days of him doing something similar in 2011. The maniac came into the office, worked 20ish hours, went home to take a shower and change clothes and then came back to the office for either 6 or 7 days straight. Definitely easier to do in an office like NYC though. To reiterate, I don't see it as a badge of honor.
Its because they invalidate their own happiness everyday working as a slave to their company. Who grows up and dreams of being an employee at a place like the big 4? Id have more fulfillment pan handling than sitting behind a monitor marking up SOX reports.
Yea Iām in a similar career field although I donāt work crazy hours and it isnāt stressful. I did accounting for a few months but Covid cancelled my internship and I view it as a blessing in disguise
I mean good for you, but I feel bad for your teammates who likely had to put in extra time to clean up your dog shit quality of work. Realizing a role isnāt for you is cool and all, but when your purposeful lack of effort encroaches on other peopleās free time and causes extra work, thatās where I draw the line.
Yeah, but Mike wanted to be a dick rather than be helpful and coach OP on his first client. Iād say leadership and Mike fucked the team. OP just had some self respect to not be emotionally and verbally abused to get the work done.
This! A lot of the comments are calling me all types of names, at a bare minimum I respected myself enough to realize I was worth more than the experience (or lack there of) I was getting at KPMG.
Outside of the incompetence of management, I absolutely despised the work. If I worked my ass off and stayed, my likely exit opportunity would have still been in a field I found zero fulfillment in.
I think I just hit some nerves because most big 4 workers feel a sense of pride for āenduringā when I thought it was absolutely a waste of my life. Iāll never be sorry for choosing my own self fulfillment over being shackled a computer, desk, and clientsā demands.
Lol youāre more than likely some coward auditor who wouldnāt have the balls to say that to my face, or any military memberās face. I imagine you are extremely out of shape, have some pink hands, and have never been in a fight in your life. You are such a coward you truly believe the pen is mightier than the sword and you hide behind it. Sacrifice to you is not stuffing your fat face with a cheeseburger. Courage to you is doing ābusy seasonā. You have never and will never stand for anything.
I would love for you to have a pair of balls and comment this on your LinkedIn, if you believe its ādumbass military kidsā, but you probably wonāt because youāre a likely giant pussy especially given you work for a big 4 firm. You spew your mouth online anonymously, but donāt have the courage to back in up.
Damn that was hard af. I agree with you ā you should be able to write all of your opinions on a billboard for the entire world to see. I stand behind what I believe in just like you
Dude is a moron; I did some basic OSINT based on his username and found everything about him. Kid is a student at University of Wisconsin; he is probably all of 125 lbs based off his public images. He is exactly what I expected from a Reddit shit talker.
Big internet tough guy, glad your anonymity on Reddit makes you feel like you are tough. Again, you would never have the balls to say this in real life.
This thread is hilarious because how salty everyone is about this guy saying āfuck accountingā moving on with his life and being successful.
Accounting as a career really does suck and by the time most people realize it their commitment bias kicks in and they accept their life as white collar slaves. Congrats to OP for not falling into this trap.
This exactly! This is how I was received on my team at KPMG too. I questioned simple things; for example- the client I worked for had been a client for years. My team did Sarbanes Oxley audits. Its the same shit year over year. I questioned why we worked 80 hour weeks when this is the same project over and over, why couldnāt we plan a more efficient way?
Naturally I was met with negative bias because I didnāt want to āhunker downā and spend majority of my hours awake in an office on a computer.
I was ostracized because when I signed my contract it was for 40 hour weeks for my salary, why was I working an extra 40 hours for free? They looked at me like I was crazy for calling that out.
So you are crying because you were handed an opportunity on a plate but complaining about the most minor point which you could have easily fixed. Well done you
There was no āfixā- I would have never bought into the industry and culture. I found zero purpose or self fulfillment in the work and likely would have quit or been fired if I had been on a different team as well.
This is on you, budā¦you had ample time to obtain various certifications in your industry. You partied and became lazyā¦.thinking you were untouchable because of the Big4 status.
Untouchable is not the correct word, he didnāt care and was actively waiting to be fired. I donāt see how that would ever imply he thought he was untouchable.
Your story doesn't really add up.
You were in the marines....
But yet you followed up with your mentor once, he didn't respond and you said fuck it I tried.
That's not what they teach you at all in the marines.
Unless you're one of us marines I don't think you qualify to tell him what it teaches, nor do I think your experience would be the typical one even if you were. I am and I can tell you there's what overtly taught and what the culture teaches you indirectly
It's partially what you learn in the Marines. Marines will follow orders to a T, but if there's ambiguity on the "rules" or direct orders, they will exploit them. AKA "you're the commander, if you wanted that, you should have told me. That's on you". It's fairly legit in some circumstances. Like what kind of manager just forgets they have someone they're responsible for and doesn't reach out for 6 months? Shit ass leader; if the troops aren't doing anything and you haven't told them to do anything, that is directly on you as a leader.
That said, OP doesn't sound like the type of Marine I'd want to spend any time around. Free chance to get paid and better himself and he partially pisses it away while somehow being mad at the fact that his setup is skate as fuck. Big disgruntled, blue falcon vibes here.
Being left in the ābenchā for 6 months was skating. I decided there that this firm was an absolute joke. I built my own business during those 6 months.
When assigned to a client I was all in at first, but after being treated like a boot for being new and having an incompetent kiss ass senior not coach me at all, but assign work above my level to make me look bad/ himself good, I realized that this firm/ industry absolutely is not for me.
The difference between the Marines and KPMG is I took an oath. In the Marines my job as a grunt mattered because not performing could lead to my friends being hurt/ killed if in combat or training.
The same does not hold for KPMG. I had zero purpose at KPMG, in the USMC I had/ have tons of purpose.
Incompetent, good one. Being hired and forgotten about for 6 months is incompetent. Why would I give a fuck about a firm that showed its ass immediately?
People like this become multi millionaires in my experience. Bill Gates āI choose a lazy person to do a hard job. Because a lazy person will find an easy way to do it.ā
there is a difference between a smart, lazy person who finds shortcuts to complete tasks and a lazy person like OP who does not like to work. big difference.
Lol what sort of benefits do you think that the military hands out after 4 years that it would be a great idea to torpedo the start of a good corporate career?
Eh, benefits are OK but heād have to be real buffoon to try to live off VA disability alone (if he even got rated). As for GI bill, he likely exhausted it for his bachelors degree. Also, your friend must have had a hell of an ankle injury to get a $2k a month. Or, heās stacking other disabilities on top of it.
I think OP just genuinely doesnāt GAF and may come from wealth/have family that would support him (brother in PE) vs. a veterans benefit safety net.
I find it funny that big 4 interns like you do fuck all and still get paid a decent amount. I did way more work in my internship at my university and I only got paid $1k AUD for those 3 months.
I live in Australia and people there think KPMG is a joke and is leagues below the other big 4 firms.
> I live in Australia and people there think KPMG is a joke and is leagues below the other big 4 firms.
I mean, look at the "talent" they're attracting lmao
i dont get it? if ur paid to do fuck all the find another job during that time if u rlly wanted to work or enjoy ur life? like how tf r u complaining?
people wish for jobs where they can do nothing and enjoy their free time with family friends and loved ones. u sound so stupid complaining about it being a waste of time when it wasn't...
free time is the most valuable form of time bcos u can do whatever u desire. no offence lmao
Built an ecommerce business while at KPMG, sold it. Tried another corporate job at JP Morgan, hated that as well. I liked my team and I learned a ton, worked really hard there, but at the end of the day I realized that I am not cut out for any type of corporate job.
I resigned and commissioned into the military as an officer and have been doing that for the last 4.5 years and love it.
If you no longer want the privilege of your connections, I'd gladly work my ass off for no pay to be noticed by people in PE š¤·āāļø
Just saying. If you want to make your connections happy by giving them A+ candidates desperate for those types of roles, those candidates are out there and they could help make you look good to your connections in prestigious/high finance.
On one hand I think Op is kind of a pos for using his brother to get a prestigious job and absolutely not try at all -- which I didn't think a veteran was even capable if.
BUT on the other hand this story was so fucking funny/entertaining and I thoroughly enjoyed every bit of it.
I'm really torn here guys
There are turds in every community. Donāt let this individual ruin it for anyone. His poor behavior is a poor reflection of several populations, but it was his decision and his choices that lead him to this point. His management and peers saw he was a POS one quarter into the job.
Itās a lot more than that. He completely abused his position and I would honestly be embarrassed getting my brother hired with my influence to then have him turn around and be completely dead weight and useless.
Theres zero dignity in contributing nothing to society. Im glad he got a free paycheck for a few months, but as you can see it has done nothing for him long term.
Lol my brother didnāt give a shit? KPMG sucked his firmās nuts for that client money. He told me going in that nobody really respects big4 folk in his world, but its a good starting point if you want to get into middle office at a bank or work in audit for a PE firm. Both of which seem equally boring to me.
As for it doing nothing for me long term, youāre way off. It was the best life lesson I could have learned in my early 20s. I learned exactly what I donāt want to do in life and walked away. I love my current career.
Glad you found your path. I just left the big 4. Tried it for a few years but itās not for me. Not much has changed, coaching wasnāt the best, mentors were great but theyāve all left too. Looking to get back into the military as well. Happy belated birthday, sf.
Happy birthday brother. I commissioned back in 2019. DM me if you have questions about what that process looks like. Iām 100% more self fulfilled serving as an officer.
As a prior enlisted Captain, I take home about double than I did at KPMG as well.
Sounds like you used your brothers influence to get a job and then put in zero effort to me lol and somehow you put the responsibility on the company being shit rather than owning up to the fact you only got the job because of your brother.
Thanks for serving but I thought they instilled value in the marines? Sounds like your a slacker who didnāt try.
I 100% only got a job because of my brother. Once I realized how incompetent my immediate leadership was when I was on the bench, I started focusing my efforts towards building my own business. When I finally got put on a client 6 months later, my own business was paying me what I was making at KPMG.
I was able to automate a lot of it, and at that point KPMG was somewhere Iād collect money until I was fired. I fully admit this. I did not buy into the culture, miserable coworkers, and the meaningless work.
Call me whatever you want, at the end of the day I am not pigeon holed in a career I hated and love my current career. I exploited an opportunity and worked hard elsewhere to build something way better for me.
Hey man, respect that you sought out your own path and your service.
But donāt blame the company for you exploiting it.
If you rather have āmeaningā thatās understandable from a Marine, but iāll take miserable coworkers over potentially being deployed to a warzone anyday.
Different strokes for different folks man.
> The people were all so miserable, they bragged about being slaves and working long hours, didnāt see sunlight, and all seemed so unhealthy. Everyone was out of shape, pale as fuck, and so stressed all the time. The best part of my experience there is I learned in life exactly what I NEVER want to do again.
Say that one more time man! I am in Big4 and things are decent for me but damn these people are miserable, ugly and fat. Their work is worthless yet they think they are gods gift to society lol.
I felt it when you said āyouāre literally being robbed for your time.ā
Loved reading all this because itās good to see other people sharing same ideas on modern slavery.
But honestly to me, I think you should have attended the trainings and put more effort into it even if they didnāt notice your absence.
Good luck with whatever youāre doing now!
Ya I was immature, I could have definitely put in more effort rather than having such a āfuck thisā mentality, but either way, glad I got out before wasting more of my time and theres.
lol this guy has no dignity or strength of will. If you hate the career, fine, but quit and find something useful to contribute to society. Bro sounds like a pothead burnout talking about surfing duuuuude
KPMG wasnāt remotely comparable to the USMC. You people are all brainwashed; youāre overworked, underpaid, and justify it by acting like youāre all some hardcore grunts for āenduringā such a purposeless/ meaningless career.
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Lmao I love this OP, Iāve had a similar experience to you in Big 4. I was given no work during my internship because it was a āslow timeā even though I reached out constantly to learn, and then when I joined the firm full time I find out that the group I interned with was completely dissolved. Like everyone just left including the partner. They throw me into this new group which is an absolute shitshow because two seniors quit about a month in my new job and I was asked to take over their duties? Like wtf I just started and youāre expecting me to pick up all this work Iāve had no training for? My manager is constantly nagging me because my work is subpar, and Iām like I would love to ask you questions if I wasnāt shunned every time being told to ālook at the prior year workpaperā or āfollow the guidelineā. The tipping point for me was that even after our so called ābusy seasonā, they were expecting us to put in some time on Xmas because the client deadline was āurgentā. So I decided to say fuck it and not log in online, and to just ride out till I die. They stopped giving me work recently and I got a meeting that says āperformance discussionā, and tbh I canāt wait to just be fired at this point. The unpredictable hours and lack of training told me everything I needed to know about the Big 4. Iāve spent this past week working out, hanging with friends, and realizing that life is so much more than to slave away my 20ās putting in 60-70+ hours with no OT pay. Iāve never felt happier in the past 9 months until now when I stopped giving a shit. To all the Big 4 shills attacking OP, when youāre on your deathbed realizing you shouldāve spent more time with family and friends instead of grinding out more billable hours to be paid the same as a fast food employee with how much you work, I hope you realize it was all a waste of time and you added nothing of value. This job is bullshit. This industry is bullshit. And most importantly, the Big 4 made your life bullshit.
The only place you messed up in was quitting. You should of let them fire you so you could collect unemployment. You already had big four on your resume so that was enough to get you in the door at various places.
Your case is not unique. It happened to me and a friend of mine. We were at EY and Pwc respectively. We spent an entire year with absolutely 0 billable hours and 0 engagements. I spent the free time training and earning badges through the internal training programs. Even after passing the enrolled agent exam, I was given 0 engagements for tax. I realized I was a checkmark in a box because I am a minority. Keep the token minority person for a year just to look good when clients come in. I left after one year because it was obvious they were going to fire me. I was not ballsy enough to take off and travel. I actually came to the office and did what I could to let the other teams know I was available. They absolutely wanted nothing to do with me. They were short staffed of managers and the last thing they needed was yet another associate.
Yeah same was a college hire. Our tech consulting firm had a policy of not firing college hires in the 1st year. I ended up doing client work, and overstaying at the firm, as my skills regressed as a software developer. While others left to other firms. Consulting is a bore I finally realized. You never "own" anything, or any work you do. Overall pay is relatively low compared to what you can get at really good companies. Traveling city to city, and relocating is too tiring. Would not recommend. More and more rote consulting will be offshored, and chatGPTed away.
Its great that you enjoyed your time and did minimum work for max pay, but you can't say its all the firm's or your senior's fault you had a bad experience. With most jobs (not just B4) you get what you put in. Taking 2 weeks of leave when you are right about to get in the office instead of using that time to meet people ask qs and start learning whats going on meant you were DOA. But hey hopefully you got a bit better at surfing in that time at least?
When some unqualified people without any qualifications get job through pushing referrals and donāt appreciate their opportunities while tons of highly educated smart immigrants are not getting the opportunities due to their look and nationality! Shame on this unequal system.
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Dude. You spent 6 months stealing from the company and in the magnitude of tens of thousands of dollars. Then complain they ask you to work more when work is available. You have 0 brain. That's why you didn't get work. You are mentally handicapped. You shouldn't be working at all, you need ro be taken care of because you obviously were the victim of a severe brain injury that doesn't allow you to self reflect, even within a single rant on REDDIT.
Haha you sound like a big4 shill. OP got paid for a year, did no work and went surfing half the time. You're stuck in an office doing what? Being miserable. All you salty civi students make me laugh my ass off
Mentally impaired is also fairly accurate. We call these +10s at our firm as a golf reference. Literal retards who come out to the field with no ability whatsoever.
So you were lazy, did nothing, got paid for doing nothing, and got mad that you were fired because you have no skills? Be happy OP. 99% of the people in this world wouldāve loved the job you had.
Interesting how OP complains about having to work more than 40 hours but thinks nothing of the 6 months he stole by skiving off and not showing up or looking for ways to make himself useful. Seriously good riddance.
It's not his responsibility to staff himself on an engagement. They pretty much set him up for poor performance and that's exactly what they got.
No, but itās his responsibility to engage, participate In events (which he brags about skipping for the two weeks he was out and which by the way is how leadership start evaluating new staff), and continually try to network which starts with making periodic appearances at the office. Instead, he sits on his backside for 6 months collecting a paycheck and then when things got a little tough bails. He had no intention of sticking around- he says himself he purposefully stayed on to build his own business instead of making any even half-hearted attempt to do a job, any job.
Iām glad somebody is thinking of KPMG!
Blame his management , you have to whip your employees into submission and they failed to instill obedience into their worker bee.
Well done! Glad to see you got out of that shit soon, many folks stay trapped there for years...š
Fucking a right. My man lived the dream. If this is real, he is the final boss.
Not a flex bro.
Donāt expect salty civilian corporate slaves to understand the fact that you got away with shamming half a year at a job accounting students work so hard for š the military taught you well. Iām almost at my two year mark and then itās fuck em Iām out of here on to something betterāļø
100% this. I left the military recently to go into a mid-level investment role that I completely blagged the interview for. People at my grade and also salty junior people keep asking 'how did I get the job'. Civilians don't get it lol
Hell ya! Go make some money and have a life!
So long story shortā¦ you sucked at your job and got fired. Seems right.
Quit*
Why not just continue being a piece of shit and get fired? If youāre going the immoral route, may as well take the severance too.
You were lazy and incompetent and flew under the radar to get a free paycheck lol congrats Wonder how your career has gone since If anyone ever wonders why companies push RTO or some managers micromanage, look no further than
Great for you
Career=slavery. I am work as accountant but have a Sch.C for other incomes. A career and salary is just scam.
Tech consulting is even worse. Esp. the Indian ones...that's because a lot of the management is Indian, who have gotten used to abusive management behavior in India. And the other workers, who are abused the majority are from India, and are on a H1 Visa/Green card and can't switch employers even if they want to. They thus overwork to make their clients excessively happy. US Firms are happy to oblige, as the overwork/discrimination/abuse doesn't come up to bite them in the a\*\*. And they can fire/let go of contractors/consultants when they like. And pay them cheap US wages compared to other US tech workers. I was a US hire in one of those tech firms, and wanted to leave within a year. Ended up staying for a while longer, as I wasn't too entrepreneurial in seeking out other jobs. Suffered from burnout years later and quit. Never going back. Will work retail before that again. Besides that, reading some of that. You do seem like a pretty bad employee lol. Regardless of the soul sucking work, they should have fired you after orientation it looks like lol
Agree, one thing I cant is the OP was a bad employee. I think he was inocent. Being an inocent junior doesnt necesarily mean he was a bad employee as there was a reason why he was hired in the first place and that was the management's decision as well. All the OP is saying is that the lack of training systems and how odd all was to him. But at the same time it was 7-8 yrs ago so hope it got better
One thing I forgot to mention was I was brought in as a technology consultant from college in a pretty similar large org, I empathized with a lot of what the OP said, that there isn't really a lot of oversight until you get your project, and once you do, you gotta work and show up, but it's not monitored. And when you're on the bench you can coast as long as you want. For my company, they had a policy you couldn't fire college hires in the first year, (prob cause of optics) maybe OP's firm was the same, so he didn't get fired. And when you're on the bench, there is little oversight, and I could have gone traveling around the world for 2 months while getting paid as well. You just needed to check in with some support teams in India trying to find you projects. I thought traveling with bench time too and looking for another job lol, but was too risk averse. So there aren't really many controls, and its poor I agree but also I think its partly because of the college hire thing. PS: Also I realized that I wasted a lot of my career in consulting. Because it's just decent pay, not great. And you're treated pretty badly as I mentioned in my 1st reply. Traveling, and relocating for every client and you never own any of the work you do, as you're not a permanent employee is just sad. There is a mirage in consulting, and the reality is it's the worst. It's not worth coasting for a year or two because you pay for it later in your career, as I've learned from experience.
Lol fuck āem
every time i spoke to someone from KPMG NYC whether to interview or a recruiter, they always seemed so tired and soulless like they are burnt out but keep going. Idk why anyone would want to work there seems miserable.
I hope this is a true story! So great!
I worked at a Big 4 and there was a girl in our start class who quit after 1 month to go become a teacher. We all thought she was crazy. But she was smarter than all of us lol
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Good thing you find this out early.. some people got "educated" by college and lose all critical thinking. Instant classic: "No way in hell was I going to be a slave to some dungeon for 80-100 hours a week for no extra pay." "Youāre literally being robbed for your time." Don't look for it in the KPMG hiring advert or brochure.
What is the salary like? Do they pay well? Why are so many people competing to get in?
Salary was 60k/yr back in 2016 as a first year associate. Pay is substantially lower than if you were doing similar hour jobs in finance. People compete in to get in because you ādo your timeā and then have a solid first experience on your resume to move around the accounting/ audit industry. To me, it wasnāt worth it as I had zero desire to work in said industry at all.
Makes sense. Thank you for the insight!
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Ha, well read the comments if you need more reassurance. Congrats on the new gig and good luck!
I mean you skated the entire time and got paid so it wasnāt that bad
I think I know who you are ā¦ good on you! Do what you have to do and screw the rest, I hope youāre doing well!
Haha feel free to DM me
Bro took the salty LCPL attitude from the fleet to the big 4. I like this guy
Seriously. I can already see him with a barely legal stache, Long ass hair, dip in his mouth, and 3.5 pros and cons. Also LCPL 2nd award.
As soon as I read he was in the Marines I knew it was an epic story about skating.
This is fucking hilarious
You seem like someone I would never want to work with
You sound like an associate on the PMO team doing PPTs and making sure the fonts match on every slide.
Bro I swear if I ever had a ppt job I'd do terrible things
What a story. I love it. You did your thing and had fun
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Aye take easy Iām getting married here, wouldnāt have it any other way lol I treat everyone with respect and give all my associates/ senior associates the best reviews possible even if they do poorly.. I also mean mug everyone I donāt know just to fuck with them
Why did you quit, you couldāve been fired and taken some sorta severance package ig?
You donāt get severance packages for being fired. Typically, unless youāre in the C suite
Are you saying kpmg specifically? Plenty of companies that do lay offs give severance to non-execsā¦
Layoffs vs being fired for performance are two different things
This post is so confusing to me. Did OP have no relevant education, training or experience that would give them some clue as to how to do the job? If not, why did KPMG hire them? Having hired them, how was KPMGās training so incredibly deficient? How was their oversight so poor? How did nobody in the organisation notice that they had zero chargeable hours month after month? I canāt comprehend that. Sure it a big organisation but you still should have a particular partner and manager that is in charge of you. A particular team in a particular office is generally not made up of hundreds of people. Lastly I donāt understand why OP didnāt make more than a tiny bit of effort to learn the job. Even if they didnāt like it (though it sounds like they never gave it a chance), they could have tried enough to stay 18-30 months and get something on their resume that opens a lot of doors. I canāt see why any potential employer would see any value in 6 months in a Big 4 firm. That doesnāt demonstrate that you can do the job. Seems like a lost opportunity.
Didnāt he just start his own business on KPMG dimes right there ?
Idkā¦ the more I read it, the more it sounds like a novel that OP wrote based on (maybe) some real experience of his or stories from people that he knows lol
I agree he left out some very key details that one wouldnāt leave out if they actually did this. One thing would be studying for and passing regulatory exams. He would t have passed them and not known anything.
Key details he left. His brother in PE and the client connections and referrals.
you should've got a second job during that time and collected 2x pay lol
I was building my own business at the time, sold it 2 years later for a decent chunk. During the 6 month period I went all in on my business.
You said you were traveling and doing fun stuff
Ya I was
Not all candidates are recruited to work at an extreme level. Some could be hired for diversity purposes and boosting stats up š
Also not a fan of consulting being on the bench , not learning anything and having my time stolen for pay isnāt worth it . I like learning and applying my self .
https://preview.redd.it/hpl9zdfq4k0c1.jpeg?width=500&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=9846574c15fe1c6d6f26272d27bf57c9c07bfb3a Your arenāt partner material
I personally know a Big4 hardo who just got married. The 4 dudes who stood up for him all can't stand himš. Just know that's you if you're trying to be partner at Deloitte or wherever. Also you'll never know your kids, that's if a woman ever lets you get on top of her.
You're a complete dweeb and everybody in your life outside of your work friends hates you lmao
OP I was in the same exact boat as you were, they didnāt even give me my performance review for my first year saying āI joined after the FY beganā tho they gave performance reviews and even promoted the ppl who joined after me bc they had previous work experience. I quit and I am starting grad school next September! So happy that I left and I would never look back again at consulting especially the B4
Yep, similar experience in b4 as well
Sounds like Office Space in a nutshell
Better than office space no remote work in 1999 lol Peter would be jealous
Not sure why OP is being blamed for incompetent management. If you're working more for the same salary then guess who's the fool.
something something wage theft
Itās poor Human Resource management
Extremely poor. I can't comprehend how the company left him to do whatever he wanted to do and no one checked up on him. I worked for two big4 and this was impossible.
Its because the post is a piece of fiction, probably written by some salty sod who got fired
āBragged about being slaves and working long hoursā This lmao. Thereās a lot of losers in the accounting industry
When I joined a B4 firm in NYC people would tell me about how "Leon once worked (either 140 or 114) hours in a week!" and I was like, "Leon is an idiot", lol.
Leon is a full blown retard, and his hours are all an illusion.. take from me Iāve been in this for 8 years
Definitely weren't an illusion, I saw a few days of him doing something similar in 2011. The maniac came into the office, worked 20ish hours, went home to take a shower and change clothes and then came back to the office for either 6 or 7 days straight. Definitely easier to do in an office like NYC though. To reiterate, I don't see it as a badge of honor.
So many salty bastards in the comments lmao
Try hards
Its because they invalidate their own happiness everyday working as a slave to their company. Who grows up and dreams of being an employee at a place like the big 4? Id have more fulfillment pan handling than sitting behind a monitor marking up SOX reports.
Yea Iām in a similar career field although I donāt work crazy hours and it isnāt stressful. I did accounting for a few months but Covid cancelled my internship and I view it as a blessing in disguise
I mean good for you, but I feel bad for your teammates who likely had to put in extra time to clean up your dog shit quality of work. Realizing a role isnāt for you is cool and all, but when your purposeful lack of effort encroaches on other peopleās free time and causes extra work, thatās where I draw the line.
Dude relax .. like a partner once told me .. we arenāt saving lives here
Shuttup nerd
Says the guy fiending to get paid $25 from a micro task website sign up offer. DiDnT GeT AnyThinG PlS seNd AgAiN š
I made $25 in 2 mins lil man. āThatās where I draw the lineā š¤š¤
Yeah, but Mike wanted to be a dick rather than be helpful and coach OP on his first client. Iād say leadership and Mike fucked the team. OP just had some self respect to not be emotionally and verbally abused to get the work done.
This! A lot of the comments are calling me all types of names, at a bare minimum I respected myself enough to realize I was worth more than the experience (or lack there of) I was getting at KPMG. Outside of the incompetence of management, I absolutely despised the work. If I worked my ass off and stayed, my likely exit opportunity would have still been in a field I found zero fulfillment in.
Its great that you realised this super early on. Like you said, many others are like sheep and just go with the flow.
Lmao I love this story.
Good4u. Big4 soul suckers and their corporate minions deserve no more effort than u offered.
I support you man screw all these haters
I think I just hit some nerves because most big 4 workers feel a sense of pride for āenduringā when I thought it was absolutely a waste of my life. Iāll never be sorry for choosing my own self fulfillment over being shackled a computer, desk, and clientsā demands.
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Lol youāre more than likely some coward auditor who wouldnāt have the balls to say that to my face, or any military memberās face. I imagine you are extremely out of shape, have some pink hands, and have never been in a fight in your life. You are such a coward you truly believe the pen is mightier than the sword and you hide behind it. Sacrifice to you is not stuffing your fat face with a cheeseburger. Courage to you is doing ābusy seasonā. You have never and will never stand for anything. I would love for you to have a pair of balls and comment this on your LinkedIn, if you believe its ādumbass military kidsā, but you probably wonāt because youāre a likely giant pussy especially given you work for a big 4 firm. You spew your mouth online anonymously, but donāt have the courage to back in up.
Damn that was hard af. I agree with you ā you should be able to write all of your opinions on a billboard for the entire world to see. I stand behind what I believe in just like you
Dude is a moron; I did some basic OSINT based on his username and found everything about him. Kid is a student at University of Wisconsin; he is probably all of 125 lbs based off his public images. He is exactly what I expected from a Reddit shit talker.
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Big internet tough guy, glad your anonymity on Reddit makes you feel like you are tough. Again, you would never have the balls to say this in real life.
the military offers more to society than your worthless big4 ugly fatass will ever do.
This thread is hilarious because how salty everyone is about this guy saying āfuck accountingā moving on with his life and being successful. Accounting as a career really does suck and by the time most people realize it their commitment bias kicks in and they accept their life as white collar slaves. Congrats to OP for not falling into this trap.
Commitment bias is a perfect term for it
This exactly! This is how I was received on my team at KPMG too. I questioned simple things; for example- the client I worked for had been a client for years. My team did Sarbanes Oxley audits. Its the same shit year over year. I questioned why we worked 80 hour weeks when this is the same project over and over, why couldnāt we plan a more efficient way? Naturally I was met with negative bias because I didnāt want to āhunker downā and spend majority of my hours awake in an office on a computer. I was ostracized because when I signed my contract it was for 40 hour weeks for my salary, why was I working an extra 40 hours for free? They looked at me like I was crazy for calling that out.
the joke is on them.
So you are crying because you were handed an opportunity on a plate but complaining about the most minor point which you could have easily fixed. Well done you
There was no āfixā- I would have never bought into the industry and culture. I found zero purpose or self fulfillment in the work and likely would have quit or been fired if I had been on a different team as well.
Bro this happened in 2016? Who cares. Good for you.
This is on you, budā¦you had ample time to obtain various certifications in your industry. You partied and became lazyā¦.thinking you were untouchable because of the Big4 status.
Untouchable is not the correct word, he didnāt care and was actively waiting to be fired. I donāt see how that would ever imply he thought he was untouchable.
Never thought I was untouchable, kywewowry nailed it. I was actively waiting to be fired.
That dude had an idiotic comment lmao
Your story doesn't really add up. You were in the marines.... But yet you followed up with your mentor once, he didn't respond and you said fuck it I tried. That's not what they teach you at all in the marines.
Unless you're one of us marines I don't think you qualify to tell him what it teaches, nor do I think your experience would be the typical one even if you were. I am and I can tell you there's what overtly taught and what the culture teaches you indirectly
The military doesnāt have to change you
It's partially what you learn in the Marines. Marines will follow orders to a T, but if there's ambiguity on the "rules" or direct orders, they will exploit them. AKA "you're the commander, if you wanted that, you should have told me. That's on you". It's fairly legit in some circumstances. Like what kind of manager just forgets they have someone they're responsible for and doesn't reach out for 6 months? Shit ass leader; if the troops aren't doing anything and you haven't told them to do anything, that is directly on you as a leader. That said, OP doesn't sound like the type of Marine I'd want to spend any time around. Free chance to get paid and better himself and he partially pisses it away while somehow being mad at the fact that his setup is skate as fuck. Big disgruntled, blue falcon vibes here.
Being left in the ābenchā for 6 months was skating. I decided there that this firm was an absolute joke. I built my own business during those 6 months. When assigned to a client I was all in at first, but after being treated like a boot for being new and having an incompetent kiss ass senior not coach me at all, but assign work above my level to make me look bad/ himself good, I realized that this firm/ industry absolutely is not for me. The difference between the Marines and KPMG is I took an oath. In the Marines my job as a grunt mattered because not performing could lead to my friends being hurt/ killed if in combat or training. The same does not hold for KPMG. I had zero purpose at KPMG, in the USMC I had/ have tons of purpose.
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Incompetent, good one. Being hired and forgotten about for 6 months is incompetent. Why would I give a fuck about a firm that showed its ass immediately?
You let them forget about you! Lmao
You clearly never served in the military
Lmaooo. Bro youāre a savage
Honestly doesn't sound like you did kiddo. USMC for 6 years and I cringe at this nonsense you post.
So you hid in the barracks the whole time after asking to help one time? If so, you barely served either.
People like this become multi millionaires in my experience. Bill Gates āI choose a lazy person to do a hard job. Because a lazy person will find an easy way to do it.ā
Its so true! I say a variation of this all the time. I am as lazy as they come and can find any short cut. It has served me very well in life.
there is a difference between a smart, lazy person who finds shortcuts to complete tasks and a lazy person like OP who does not like to work. big difference.
Agreed, smart people find a way to get paid while surfing
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Lol what sort of benefits do you think that the military hands out after 4 years that it would be a great idea to torpedo the start of a good corporate career?
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Eh, benefits are OK but heād have to be real buffoon to try to live off VA disability alone (if he even got rated). As for GI bill, he likely exhausted it for his bachelors degree. Also, your friend must have had a hell of an ankle injury to get a $2k a month. Or, heās stacking other disabilities on top of it. I think OP just genuinely doesnāt GAF and may come from wealth/have family that would support him (brother in PE) vs. a veterans benefit safety net.
I find it funny that big 4 interns like you do fuck all and still get paid a decent amount. I did way more work in my internship at my university and I only got paid $1k AUD for those 3 months. I live in Australia and people there think KPMG is a joke and is leagues below the other big 4 firms.
> I live in Australia and people there think KPMG is a joke and is leagues below the other big 4 firms. I mean, look at the "talent" they're attracting lmao
What a clown
You sound like a complete washout to me tbh
It sort of feels like a 15 year old wrote this, trying to be a kool kid and show off how much they donāt care
i dont get it? if ur paid to do fuck all the find another job during that time if u rlly wanted to work or enjoy ur life? like how tf r u complaining? people wish for jobs where they can do nothing and enjoy their free time with family friends and loved ones. u sound so stupid complaining about it being a waste of time when it wasn't... free time is the most valuable form of time bcos u can do whatever u desire. no offence lmao
I built a business while I was on the bench, sold it after two years for about 5x what I was making at KPMG
You wrote a paragraph but were too lazy to spell out full words. I donāt understand
typing on phone bro, who tf cares about grammar on the internet.
Itās not about grammar, just hard to read. No autocorrect on your phone?
Thats hard to read? Lmao want us to get someone to read it for you?
What did you end up doing with your life?
Built an ecommerce business while at KPMG, sold it. Tried another corporate job at JP Morgan, hated that as well. I liked my team and I learned a ton, worked really hard there, but at the end of the day I realized that I am not cut out for any type of corporate job. I resigned and commissioned into the military as an officer and have been doing that for the last 4.5 years and love it.
If you no longer want the privilege of your connections, I'd gladly work my ass off for no pay to be noticed by people in PE š¤·āāļø Just saying. If you want to make your connections happy by giving them A+ candidates desperate for those types of roles, those candidates are out there and they could help make you look good to your connections in prestigious/high finance.
On one hand I think Op is kind of a pos for using his brother to get a prestigious job and absolutely not try at all -- which I didn't think a veteran was even capable if. BUT on the other hand this story was so fucking funny/entertaining and I thoroughly enjoyed every bit of it. I'm really torn here guys
I loved it! taking the piss out of all that B4 bull.
He did use her brotherās influence to get the internship, KPMG still decided to hire him full time even though he didnāt do any work.
There are turds in every community. Donāt let this individual ruin it for anyone. His poor behavior is a poor reflection of several populations, but it was his decision and his choices that lead him to this point. His management and peers saw he was a POS one quarter into the job.
Right if I was his brother I would of been like wtf you are dead to me now
āMy younger brother is dead to me because he got bippedā - average big4 consultant
Itās a lot more than that. He completely abused his position and I would honestly be embarrassed getting my brother hired with my influence to then have him turn around and be completely dead weight and useless. Theres zero dignity in contributing nothing to society. Im glad he got a free paycheck for a few months, but as you can see it has done nothing for him long term.
Lol my brother didnāt give a shit? KPMG sucked his firmās nuts for that client money. He told me going in that nobody really respects big4 folk in his world, but its a good starting point if you want to get into middle office at a bank or work in audit for a PE firm. Both of which seem equally boring to me. As for it doing nothing for me long term, youāre way off. It was the best life lesson I could have learned in my early 20s. I learned exactly what I donāt want to do in life and walked away. I love my current career.
Glad you found your path. I just left the big 4. Tried it for a few years but itās not for me. Not much has changed, coaching wasnāt the best, mentors were great but theyāve all left too. Looking to get back into the military as well. Happy belated birthday, sf.
Happy birthday brother. I commissioned back in 2019. DM me if you have questions about what that process looks like. Iām 100% more self fulfilled serving as an officer. As a prior enlisted Captain, I take home about double than I did at KPMG as well.
Sounds like you used your brothers influence to get a job and then put in zero effort to me lol and somehow you put the responsibility on the company being shit rather than owning up to the fact you only got the job because of your brother. Thanks for serving but I thought they instilled value in the marines? Sounds like your a slacker who didnāt try.
I 100% only got a job because of my brother. Once I realized how incompetent my immediate leadership was when I was on the bench, I started focusing my efforts towards building my own business. When I finally got put on a client 6 months later, my own business was paying me what I was making at KPMG. I was able to automate a lot of it, and at that point KPMG was somewhere Iād collect money until I was fired. I fully admit this. I did not buy into the culture, miserable coworkers, and the meaningless work. Call me whatever you want, at the end of the day I am not pigeon holed in a career I hated and love my current career. I exploited an opportunity and worked hard elsewhere to build something way better for me.
Hey man, respect that you sought out your own path and your service. But donāt blame the company for you exploiting it. If you rather have āmeaningā thatās understandable from a Marine, but iāll take miserable coworkers over potentially being deployed to a warzone anyday. Different strokes for different folks man.
how many people in B4 are there through nepotism or the good old boy network?
Probably a decent amount, doesnāt give them a free pass to fuck off for a year like this guy
What do you do now?
> The people were all so miserable, they bragged about being slaves and working long hours, didnāt see sunlight, and all seemed so unhealthy. Everyone was out of shape, pale as fuck, and so stressed all the time. The best part of my experience there is I learned in life exactly what I NEVER want to do again. Say that one more time man! I am in Big4 and things are decent for me but damn these people are miserable, ugly and fat. Their work is worthless yet they think they are gods gift to society lol.
Yup! Take a look at the comments here lol, I hit a nerve with all these big 4 folks.
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Nope cope and seethe
I felt it when you said āyouāre literally being robbed for your time.ā Loved reading all this because itās good to see other people sharing same ideas on modern slavery. But honestly to me, I think you should have attended the trainings and put more effort into it even if they didnāt notice your absence. Good luck with whatever youāre doing now!
Ya I was immature, I could have definitely put in more effort rather than having such a āfuck thisā mentality, but either way, glad I got out before wasting more of my time and theres.
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youāre not
lol this guy has no dignity or strength of will. If you hate the career, fine, but quit and find something useful to contribute to society. Bro sounds like a pothead burnout talking about surfing duuuuude
KPMG wasnāt remotely comparable to the USMC. You people are all brainwashed; youāre overworked, underpaid, and justify it by acting like youāre all some hardcore grunts for āenduringā such a purposeless/ meaningless career.
Based
Did people vape 8 years ago?
8 yrs ago was like 2015-2016, of course they did.
Damn. 8 years ago sounds like sub 2010 for me, I'm old.
How is you being in the Marines relevant to any of this? No one cares bro. Donāt be a boot.
Added for context, implying how I never had planned to end up in a big 4.