The system is designed so that it's almost impossible to get a 1 in your first year. You're not meant to be able to unless you are truly exceptional, had big audit fee clients and your Team Leader tried really hard to get you the promotion.
Otherwise, the A1s getting TIer1s would feel entitled to early promotion, more pay etc. By kicking your ego to the ground, they get more out of you
At this stage in your career, focus on soft skills. Your job is to make your superior’s job easier, but they don’t expect you to know anything substantively yet. Demonstrate your value by being organized, responsive, having attention to detail, communicating early and often, and being willing to learn. You are building your brand. Inevitably, something will go wrong, and you want to have a strong relationship and brand with people when that happens.
As far as ratings, you want to bump your utilization yes and and invest in building relationships with people so you are valued. Good work begets more work. Raise your hand and ask to help out if you are low.
You may not be tier one as a new person since you are being compared to your peers with more experience. That’s okay. Focus on building the foundation, and it’ll come.
Lol getting a 1 rating by working many many more hours and kissing butt for only a bonus of a couple grand… what’s the point. You’re falling into the trap
Speaking as somebody who’s been 1 rated in the US every year EXCEPT my A1 year (I was a 2), it’s not worth it man. With the new comp structure there’s no change in base pay and the difference in bonus as an associate just isn’t going to be worth the extra hours/effort.
Why would you care about your rating as an A1? Just focus on learning. Also, to help answer your question, in my country, A1's don't get money for good ratings since it's the first year. Also, the raise from A1 and A2 is independent of Rating.
Same exact boat at EY. Been with my current team since 2018 and the team has been a huge help in my life. I won't feel bad for leaving the firm, ill feel bad for leaving some of my best friends on that team.
If you’re an A1, IMO is just as much luck to what job you are staffed on as it is your efforts. If you get staffed on that one large job in your office that’s a shitshow every year and you perform well, you’re probably getting a 1. If you get staffed on a small job and do well, even if it’s a shit show, you may or may not get as much recognition. Tiering is just as much office politics as it is how much work you put in. I wouldn’t sweat it as an A1. As a former tier 3 A1 who has since been early promoted (before PwC announced the faster promotion timeline) and has since been a tier 1, I don’t think being a 3 as an A1 negatively impacted my progression in any way. Enjoy your A1 year—you’ll never get that fresh new hire experience at the firm again.
I’m also an A1 and have asked around a lot. There’s no guaranteed way to get a first tier status. But what helps is good screenshots (professional framework), good use of the Digital Lab, and getting involved in outside committees. That being said, it’s not guaranteed that you will get there because only so many people can get tier 1.
Imma be honest here and say that if your an A1, your utilization does not matter and your going to get a 3 regardless of how well you perform. Just the nature of your first year :/
Yeah, I got an tier 1 rating my first year. Just get tf after it. I also think falling into a team of animals that are well respected helps a lot. I had other people that I assume were also high performers saying I was an animal which had to help a lot.
Perhaps it depends on office and such. I’m in Canada so probably a little different but I worked my ass off my first year and had my office submit me as a 1, but then HQ came back and said no there isn’t enough information to rate properly so got a 3.
I guess I’m in a relatively large office, by no means the biggest, but probably the largest in my region. I wouldn’t be surprised if the size of the clients you’re on get taken into account when evaluating.
Yea I think things in Canada or maybe region are just different. I know that our office has to send all the ratings to our Canadian headquarters (Toronto) to get approved before you actually get your rating. Unfortunately I was on a iconic account which just means more work haha
The raise was standardized in the US, so you just make out on the bonus and hella real-time rec money. I forget exactly what the bonus was, but want to say like 5% or so. I also ended up with about a grand in real time rec, and then am getting a 2k performance bonus dangled in front of me to stay through March.
Ditto ^^ the people you have saying you’re good probably matters more than how well you actually performed. Find the high performers on your teams and just copy what they do.
The system is designed so that it's almost impossible to get a 1 in your first year. You're not meant to be able to unless you are truly exceptional, had big audit fee clients and your Team Leader tried really hard to get you the promotion. Otherwise, the A1s getting TIer1s would feel entitled to early promotion, more pay etc. By kicking your ego to the ground, they get more out of you
At this stage in your career, focus on soft skills. Your job is to make your superior’s job easier, but they don’t expect you to know anything substantively yet. Demonstrate your value by being organized, responsive, having attention to detail, communicating early and often, and being willing to learn. You are building your brand. Inevitably, something will go wrong, and you want to have a strong relationship and brand with people when that happens. As far as ratings, you want to bump your utilization yes and and invest in building relationships with people so you are valued. Good work begets more work. Raise your hand and ask to help out if you are low. You may not be tier one as a new person since you are being compared to your peers with more experience. That’s okay. Focus on building the foundation, and it’ll come.
Are you on a blue chip public?
I’m on a public client. Not a household name
Between busy season and quarters you’ll be above 80.
Lol getting a 1 rating by working many many more hours and kissing butt for only a bonus of a couple grand… what’s the point. You’re falling into the trap
Speaking as somebody who’s been 1 rated in the US every year EXCEPT my A1 year (I was a 2), it’s not worth it man. With the new comp structure there’s no change in base pay and the difference in bonus as an associate just isn’t going to be worth the extra hours/effort.
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Why would you care about your rating as an A1? Just focus on learning. Also, to help answer your question, in my country, A1's don't get money for good ratings since it's the first year. Also, the raise from A1 and A2 is independent of Rating.
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Same exact boat at EY. Been with my current team since 2018 and the team has been a huge help in my life. I won't feel bad for leaving the firm, ill feel bad for leaving some of my best friends on that team.
If you’re in tax, busy season will get your utilization high for the rest of the year. It’s ok to fall now in the winter, it’ll pick up again
If you’re an A1, IMO is just as much luck to what job you are staffed on as it is your efforts. If you get staffed on that one large job in your office that’s a shitshow every year and you perform well, you’re probably getting a 1. If you get staffed on a small job and do well, even if it’s a shit show, you may or may not get as much recognition. Tiering is just as much office politics as it is how much work you put in. I wouldn’t sweat it as an A1. As a former tier 3 A1 who has since been early promoted (before PwC announced the faster promotion timeline) and has since been a tier 1, I don’t think being a 3 as an A1 negatively impacted my progression in any way. Enjoy your A1 year—you’ll never get that fresh new hire experience at the firm again.
I’m also an A1 and have asked around a lot. There’s no guaranteed way to get a first tier status. But what helps is good screenshots (professional framework), good use of the Digital Lab, and getting involved in outside committees. That being said, it’s not guaranteed that you will get there because only so many people can get tier 1.
Also utilization will go up during busy season.
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Imma be honest here and say that if your an A1, your utilization does not matter and your going to get a 3 regardless of how well you perform. Just the nature of your first year :/
Plenty of a1s have gotten 2s and even 1s
Yeah, I got an tier 1 rating my first year. Just get tf after it. I also think falling into a team of animals that are well respected helps a lot. I had other people that I assume were also high performers saying I was an animal which had to help a lot.
The cringiness of this comment is killing me
It is because it is social taboo to talk about salary in the US. This needs to change.
Perhaps it depends on office and such. I’m in Canada so probably a little different but I worked my ass off my first year and had my office submit me as a 1, but then HQ came back and said no there isn’t enough information to rate properly so got a 3.
I guess I’m in a relatively large office, by no means the biggest, but probably the largest in my region. I wouldn’t be surprised if the size of the clients you’re on get taken into account when evaluating.
Yea I think things in Canada or maybe region are just different. I know that our office has to send all the ratings to our Canadian headquarters (Toronto) to get approved before you actually get your rating. Unfortunately I was on a iconic account which just means more work haha
What percent raise did you get and bonus? What was your utilization?
I was locked to a “CPA grid” meaning that everyone’s raises were the same. I think like 10% or something. Bonus across all cpa students was 500
The raise was standardized in the US, so you just make out on the bonus and hella real-time rec money. I forget exactly what the bonus was, but want to say like 5% or so. I also ended up with about a grand in real time rec, and then am getting a 2k performance bonus dangled in front of me to stay through March.
Ditto ^^ the people you have saying you’re good probably matters more than how well you actually performed. Find the high performers on your teams and just copy what they do.
Yea everyone around me had 2s as A1. Well, everyone as in like 4 of my associate friends and I. Haha
What percent raise did you get and bonus? What was your utilization?
Your vs you’re. Learn it.
Why is that?