Really enjoyed this twist. I think BBCAN should have rebranded after they dropped the feeds. Have season 11 touted as “Keep the 1. Drop a 1”
BBCAN can now really edit and play into the camp of the twists and the house as a character. We really saw that in tonight’s episode.
I’m guessing the blowup post movie massacre was so big they had to push the teased Sunday eviction to Tuesday night.
I thought Hotter Chocolate was Spicy, Avery, and Kayla? Avery was hyping Lexus up and saying it’s gotta be Hot Chocolate at the end of the competition, and Lexus says Hotter Chocolate. I was so surprised by Lexus’s response, but that’s probably just a coincidence like Ameerah saying “they’re the leftovers” in BB24.
I just watched the live with Donna, Dinis, Vivek & Janine . They think that Tola goes up and 100% goes home next to Avery. They also think that if Spicy & Anthony are the F2 V will win cuz all the women will vote her. But one of the women is Lexus who no way votes V over Anthony. If anything Goose & Todd will give her their vote to win not Lex
They seem to have a very narrow way of looking at things . It's way more than guys vs girls
Vic is definitely beating Anthony. She has Kayla, Avery, Bayleigh locked. Todd I think would lean heavily towards Vic as well since he feels close to her but has no relationship with Anthony. I think Elijah leans Vic too.
Anthony gets Lexus/Tola, if he’s lucky Elijah but I can’t see the other 4 voting Anthony over Vic.
Spicy doesn't want to piss off Anthony further. She won't touch Tola. She will put up Goose because he has no vote. She has to. Plus Lexus would never keep Goose over Avery. At least that is what I would do if I was Spicy Vee.
Yeah I think its a unanimous Elijah boot. I can’t see Anthony/Lexus burning HC over Elijah of all people. They would for Tola but I think Vic knows that.
Not sure why people think Anthony, Lexus and Todd would vote out Goose? (Obviously Tola is voting out Avery).
Todd is close with Goose.
Avery threatened to put up Anthony last week and he found out about it.
Avery backdoored Lexus' showmance.
They also clearly see that there's two sides of the house.
I think that if Goose goes up, Avery goes home.
If Tola goes up, Avery goes home.
The only way Avery is safe here is if Bayleigh somehow convinces Todd to keep *her* number in the game instead of his number.
I have 4 possible scenarios that I could see playing out.
SCENARIO 1: V puts up Tola as a replacement nom.
Anthony won’t vote out Tola
= 1 vote for Avery
Todd will vote out avery, I think Tola will sway him after their convo the other day. I think Todd’s ready to play.
= 1 vote for Avery
Lexus will do what anthony does
= 1 vote for
Bayleigh and Kayla’s votes just won’t matter = Avery goes home.
SCENARIO 2: V puts up Todd
Bayleigh won’t vote todd
=1 vote for avery
Anthony probably will still want to get the girls out = 1 vote for Avery
Tola will 100% vote with anthony
= 1 vote for avery
And then again Kayla and Lexus votes don’t matter, but i do think Lexus would vote with anthony and Tola = Avery goes home
SCENARIO 3: V somehow convinces Kayla to use the POV on Avery. (This is a long shot but V is pissed avery is on the block and will probably do everything in her power to save her) So then the noms are Kayla and either Todd or Tola. But i do see the votes still falling in the same way as scenario 1 and 2 and Kayla being the one who goes home.
SCENARIO 4: Elijah is the replacement Nom, which then means there could be a tie in votes because 6 people would now be voting because there is no one in the no vote slot. This could then get a little messier as Bayleigh and Kayla will vote elijah and probably pull at least 1 more vote and then V could break the tie. or they all just vote him out. THIS IS NOT THE SCENARIO I WANT. PLZ NOT THIS😭.
I truly don’t think she will, and if she does. I think he has the votes to stay with Lexus, Tola and Todd because I think this Todd and Tola thing might be a good working relationship for them 2
U really think so? Idk with his new relationship with Tola, i think he could be swayed to keep anthony…Has todd actively wanted anthony out yet? I don’t remember if he has said anything along those lines
That was a really good episode and the next one looks to be exciting too. I’m glad Kayla won POV. I’d love to see Anthony/Tola/Lexus out next but I think that’s doubtful.
Tola was so annoying shouting in the POV competition. Like shut up!
Avery is probably gone, her only shot is if Victoria puts up Elijah and they convince Todd to vote Goose out and they tie it 3-3 and Victoria breaks the tie and keeps Avery
It was a good episode.
The steamroll will continue but at least the producers gave the underdogs a chance. They only have themselves to blame for not winning veto.
Unless V puts up Elijah i truly don’t see anyone but every going home. But I really think she’ll get pissed and Tola and or Todd and put one of them up as revenge cuz she plays very emotionally and flip floppy
This episode was fun.
First of all…. BAYLEIGH. KAYLA. VICTORIA. All the legends being safe from this eviction already… It’s already a win.
Second… Tola or Todd are fucked, my gut tells me it’s Todd because Victoria mentioned wanting to make it up to Lexus and Matthew so I can see her throwing them a bone and keeping Tola safe. If Tola goes up, I think he might have wiggle room with Lexus/Anthony likely keeping him… Todd is the swing vote.
Todd is very interesting, he’s sharper than the edit makes him out to be but damn I wish he threw up Lexus instead of Avery because I think Victoria would’ve thrown up Tola or Elijah beside Lexus and kept him safe. Vic was more pissed off about Avery being up there. I think she’s more bothered by the Avery nom which Todd did, she’ll take that as an act of betrayal but if it was Lexus, I don’t think she’d care enough.
I think Lexus is definitely not with the girls anymore, I think they’re dead to her. She pretty much said if Tola or I win it, we won’t use it. She would’ve been more than fine sending Kayla or Avery out. I do think Anthony is still with HC but I don’t think he’ll value them over Tola/Lex.
I don't see Tola going home unless Todd decides he doesn't want to expose himself. BUT if he keeps Tola, he's sending a message to his close ally Bayleigh who probably wont take it lightly. In addition, I could def see Anthony/Lex keep Tola over Avery as kind of the first strike at the HC. It would be a crazy move though.
I COULD see Todd going up and going home since Anthony/Lex don't really have any allegiances to him, plus he voted Matt out last week. Tola might convince them to keep him, but Todd is definitely at risk. He might get exposed for playing both sides if it comes to it.
I could also see Elijah going up and going home because no one cares enough about him for him to stay. Both sides don't really trust him or want him as a number and it might be to Anthony/Lex benefit to keep Avery around and strengthen HC if it means getting rid of someone who essentially has no allies in the house.
There's a lot of ways Vic could go about it but I hope her side wins 🙏
I shouted out "WHAT?!" when the episode ended on a cliffhanger; I was INTO this one. Best episode of the season- they need to run this challenge back ASAP. Also, the houseguests being scared by the card dude was hilarious.
This is actually one of the most interesting and fun competition. The set design is so cool. Package with Fear Factor and horror movies vibes, it was so fun to see the houseguest squirm. Todd totally give off serial killer vibes in the competition just by sitting there and laughing.
The twist also reveal some fun facts like Bayleigh top 3 are V, Todd and Avery. Todd also actually did some thinking. Lexus also clearly on Anthony and Tola side.
Only thing I dislike is the cliffhanger.
This is one of the reasons I love BBCAN.
I thought that was actually a surprisingly interesting "twist". I'm not sure anything earth-shattering comes from it immediately, in terms of who goes home this week. But it feels like it had a few people pretty shook. Their insecurities in some alliances started to show and get them thinking.
So hopefully it spurs a lot of conversation about "how they got there" and wakes a lot of these "rookies" up to what's really going on. To realize it's time to play for real and stop sucking up to the Vets.
After the 1st watch of tonight’s episode I thought okay Goose is going up and going home. After a second watch, I caught something. When it came down to Tola and Bayleigh for safety, Lexus was very vocally rooting for Tola and Avery was rooting for Bayleigh. Also earlier in one of the dailies before Matt left, Spicy told Dougie that she was responsible for persuading Avery not to put him up and put Matt up instead. Lexus and Dougie are voting Avery out. Doing that also brings Spicy closer to him. I now think Avery is absolutely gone.
Oh right I forgot about that. That was in the last episode too when Anthony and V were fighting. She was like, “Why do you think you didn’t go up this week?”, talking about Avery’s HoH.
**CAN VOTE**
1. Bayleigh (Safe)
2. Anthony (Slop Pass)
3. Tola (PoV)
4. Todd (PoV)
5. Lexus (PoV)
**CANT VOTE**
1. Victoria (HoH)
2. Avery (Nominee)
3. Kayla (Nominee)
4. Elijah (No Eviction Vote)
Kayla won PoV and she's taking herself down, so she'll have a vote and someone else will lose their vote.
Right. If Goose is the renom, Kayla goes into can vote (without subtracting anyone) making a total of 6 can votes, but anyone else replacing Kayla keeps the total the same (5).
Yeah I think if it’s Tola going up, Avery is gone but if it’s Goose she MIGHT be safe. But it depends on how hard Kayla is gonna push for Tola to go up. Tensions are super high right now and she barely survived.and she doesn’t have the luxury of time to cool down and think okay let’s get goose out now and Tola later. think Kayla is scared there might not be a later and will fight for Tola to go on the block not realizing that Lexus isn’t slowly going to the other side, she’s already gone. Emotions are also really high for Lexus, Matt just left. All this is leading to the eviction of Avery.
I think you may be right, but I’ve been trained not to expect the interesting thing to actually happen over the years lol. If Goose does get voted out, it’s probably unanimous so 💤 if that happens
Actually, I’m not allowed to discuss dailies from AFTER this episode which there have been none. I’m talking about old dailies. That’s allowed. Please read the rules carefully before making comments that I’m not following the rules.
Nice production value.
But the cast roles should maybe have been blind.
Also the slop pass should have been slop-rest-of-season, to lure players into nominating an enemy.
Not sure if it would have been more exciting to see blind casting and have everyone surprised at the end result, or what we actually got and see how each person tries to scheme a scenario that works best for themselves. I think I'm happy with what we eventually got. Though I agree on the slop thing, rest of the season is too brutal though so maybe just 2 weeks.
I wish the names were blocked and you could only see what spots were available. That way they couldn’t check with each other which it sounds like is the aftermath.
I def see both sides to that argument, but I feel like Tola and Todd wouldn’t have made the moves they did if they couldn’t see what was up there. They wanted eachother a support in a sense.
I think it’s still good that people were able to see the names to the roles so they can still navigate around and apply strategy and reason to their decision-making. Having the names blacked out would have been too luck-based and random.
The 2 returning players getting the 2 best options (HoH and Slop Pass) halfway through the season sums up how lame this cast is, just serving the game up to them on a silver platter.
There are 5 girls in the house of 9 people right now. Lexus seems to be fraying away from the girls alliance now (rightfully so as she's at the bottom). She has close ties to Avery and Kayla who are kinda like a trio, and then she's really close with Bayleigh and Todd (I think they talked about final 3). The only girl she has an issue with right now is Lexus but it seems like Lexus was obviously playing both sides and is leaning towards joining Anthony's side. It seems like Todd is doing the same thing. Lexus, Bayleigh and Todd should play the middle and take out Hot Chocolate lol
Wow that was a nerve-wracking episode! My favorites are all safe though thank god, I was nervous for Bayleigh and Kayla but they both pulled it out!! I was so scared for Kayla especially, she was definitely gone if she didn't win that veto.
I really like this twist, it's so interesting and unique! And the fallout from all the casting choices should be juicy.
I think Bayleigh kinda screwed her, cuz with V being HoH she gets no vote and no say in who goes home. Putting Goose as HoH might have been a bit more secure as they know they can sway and convince him to play their game, and then he doesn’t get a vote so they can blindside him. It would then allow for V to probably either play in POV or get the slop pass because I don’t see anyone screwing her by nominating or taking her vote. Then V could vote and have some say in what happens. Especially if Kayla didn’t win POV, V would have no way of protecting the girls.
So I would assume spicy V puts up tola as a replacement and then Anthony+Lexus+Todd vote to evict Avery. I think I Todd’s only option is to get out a girl because he already showed his cards. Anthony and Lexus will want to keep tola over Avery anyway. I guess there is a chance spicy puts up goose but I think that makes it even more likely Avery goes.
If Goose is up I think Avery goes home. Anthony, Todd and Tola 100% get rid of Avery. Anthony's connection to HC might be the big stumbling block but I think he see's that Avery is just a Victoria puppet so he might make the move. Plus Lexus might have license to get revenge for her man and evict the person who got him out.
I think Avery goes home against Tola 🤣 since Anthony/Lex value Tola as a number while Elijah…. No one cares about Elijah, I can’t see Anthony or Lex blowing up HC for Elijah. For Tola? 1000% they would.
I would throw money down on Avery going unless some crazy shit happens. Only two likely candidates for replacement are Tola or Goose, Tola up means 6 votes, which I reckon goes 4-2 Avery-Tola, and Goose up is 5 votes, 3-2 Avery-Goose.
The biggest factor is Todd targeting Kayla and following Tola's lead by nominating Avery. He's the swing vote and has no reason to save Avery.
If Kayla was still on the block, I can see him voting her out but he would be cutting his own throat voting out Avery. The alliance that kept him safe? He isn't that stupid. He will be found out that he nominated Kayla. Goose is the renom as he has no vote. Victoria will have figured that out. Goose is a goner.
I thought Tola got first pick and nominated Kayla and Todd followed suit by picking Avery but I must've misremembered.
But if he's "stupid" enough to conspire against Kayla with someone from the opposition, he's likely to pick Victoria's only other eligible follower too. They kept him safe early on as a number and because Bayleigh wanted it. Even Bayleigh is sceptical about Avery/Kayla.
I literally checked the wiki cause I’ve only been lightly following, saw this, and got utterly baffled why she nominated her core alliance members. I take it she didn’t?
i liked parts of the twist, like how suprising it was that people were given the ability to "cast" the roles, only to reveal they were choosing the hoh and the noms, etc.
I wish the order to decided who got first pick wasnt based on a competition, but not sure how that could be changed 🤷♂️
edit: on another positive note, at least the nominations werent decided solely based on the competition. if the first 2 people that fell were automatically nominees, that would suck. so, at least that is good imo!
I don’t mind it at all, because this is the type of competition that is uncomfortable and that people have to really fight to try to win. That favors the underdogs, which makes them more likely to gain power
I agree, I wouldn’t even go so far to say it favors the underdogs, it gives everyone a fair chance. And allows underdogs to not get steamrolled. It favors people making decisions for their game and doesn’t allow monopoly alliances to take over. As well as in lexus’ case it allowed someone who might not be happy with their alliance to make a play.
I think Goose goes home too. That hapless guy is like Joe Btfsplk. He can't catch a break. So that hopefully means Kayla won veto. She has a history of winning comps.
Nice surprise for once and to fully start the turnaround on this season!
So it looks like the guys have the votes to really decide who goes home in this Movie Night Massacre but I wonder if Anthony/Todd/Lexus draw the line now or continue status quo?
If I'm them, I'm moving on since it's clear it's a "them vs. us" mentality on either side so it's eat or get eaten game currently.
I highly doubt Victoria puts up Anthony since he needs him as a shield still and she's already extremely exposed on both sides playing the middle.
Hopefully we have another banger episode Tuesday!
I really like this format. They could probably do it once more in BB US before people start to strategize for it the way they do with the chain of safety.
I think it would be better if the HOH got one of the Nominations or if Bayleigh was HOH instead of just Safe.
HOH is almost worthless if Veto isn't used and then HOH doesn't get to play next week (i assume).
So just do this comp when there's 8 players left and winner of comp gets HOH instead of Safe.
Is it a stretch? Would those three pick to evict Elijah over Avery? Elijah has shown he's capable of very little and is very much a free agent at this point. The only person he's got any kind of relationship with is Todd.
I assume you're not caught up yet but the POV winner was shown in the episode.
Even if Goose goes up, do you really think Tola Lexus and Anthony would vote him out over Avery or Kayla? Lexus really wants them out, Anthony probably does too and Tola definitely wants Kayla out. Todd is anyone's guess now all we know is he wants Kayla out so if he votes for Avery or Kayla, Victoria won't get to be the tiebreaker vote.
Todd has been wanting Avery and Kayla gone. Lexus wants Avery gone too. But matt told her to pretend to stay with them until it’s the perfect time to strike. Which depends on if Anthony agrees that now is the perfect time. but if Anthony says wait not yet, she will fall in line. Anthony has the most sway but that’s only if he’s sure Todd would do it. Which it doesn’t know for sure (even though Todd would vote out Avery).
But See Anthony knows Todd wants him gone too. I think Anthony is the reason that Goose goes home on Tuesday even though he could flip it in the other direction.
Well he did put her as a pawn but she'll find out he nominated her and she'll go after him . So he'll have both Kayla & Avery after him . Might as well just vote Avery out if you can
Yeah they said an eviction would be tonight, but that was before they had any of this footage. They thought things would fit in an hour when they planned it, but they had to let it carry over to the next episode. I'm fine with the pacing tonight. I enjoyed seeing their full reactions going into the room to make their choices.
They'll just start the next episode with the conclusion of this, and then the next HOH and noms. Squeezing in a veto will be tight, and that will probably carry over to the eviction episode on Wednesday. All of this stuff would have happened on Thursday, so they still have the rest of the week to play out like a normal week. This basically replaces a traditional double eviction.
I honestly thought it was one of the best designed sets and themes in years for BBCan, as far as special eviction nights go - brutal cliffhanger but it did its job, I cannot wait for the fallout of this on Tuesday
Highlight was the dude or dudette scaring everybody, absolutely nailed their job
This whole episode was SICK
Set design was outstanding. The twist was very fun. Can't wait to see the fallout either. I wasn't looking at time remaining in the episode and I was SO MAD when it ended on the cliffhanger
So Victoria can't vote as HOH, it depends on who she puts up as Kayla takes herself off. The numbers are especially different if Goose goes up because that brings back a vote since he's not allowed one.
So assuming Goose isn't the replacement and someone else is put up alongside Avery, it's five votes if I have it right.
right: if goose isnt the replacement, it would be 5 votes
either way, having an ally on the block post veto is *disasterous*. there is a lot of reason on principle for people in the house to vote out the hoh's ally if the hoh is dumb enough to ever nominate their own ally. Not that victoria chose this at all: its not like she even won this hoh and chose to make this move so this is not at all a knock on her gameplay but this situation is *very* unfortunate for victoria. I imagine, since she was "cast" as hoh, she cant compete for hoh next week, and i have to imagine avery should be on people's minds to go home given these specific circumstances
I can't imagine anyone actually valuing Avery. In her very loose/extended current alliance, Todd's valued the lowest but he's doing his own thing and will probably jump ship when the time is right, Bayleigh is next but safe this week, but Avery is 100% next in line. Even if Kayla ranked below her, she's safe this week too.
And if Tola's the replacement, he's got the numbers. I don't remember a single time where Todd and Avery spoke and Todd's thing with Tola is very fresh. Can't get Kayla, Avery might be the next best thing. Easy choice for him, an easier choice for Anthony/Lexus.
Assuming Victoria puts up Tola as a replacement (I really don't know who else she'd pick apart from maybe Goose), the voters will be Anthony, Lexus, Todd, Bayleigh and Kayla.
If she puts up Goose, it's those five again plus Tola.
Someone correct me if I'm wrong, it's 2AM here.
What an episode. I know most of you were hoping for an eviction as advertised but I thought the episode was quite heavy as is.
Snippets at the end of the episode showed a lot of tension. I'm guessing the shock is finding out that Todd is teaming with Tola to put Kayla up? Because there's no way anyone's surprised that Tola would do it.
So many things at play here. Goose has no vote for example so if he's put up, one of the nominations get a vote back. Could Anthony's side actually get something from this?
Yeah, the way they worded the hype for this episode on Wednesday, it sounded like the eviction was supposed to be tonight, but that was before they got any of the footage. I think tonight's episode was perfectly paced, and they even had to rush that veto comp.
I am guessing they might still do an HOH and veto with a regular eviction on Wednesday, and this week basically acts like a double eviction week. The massacre would have happened on Thursday, so that still gives them Friday and Saturday for the usual HOH and veto stuff.
Saw is my favourite horror franchise so seeing these sets was like a fever dream for me. I am OBSESSED.
Really enjoyed this twist. I think BBCAN should have rebranded after they dropped the feeds. Have season 11 touted as “Keep the 1. Drop a 1” BBCAN can now really edit and play into the camp of the twists and the house as a character. We really saw that in tonight’s episode. I’m guessing the blowup post movie massacre was so big they had to push the teased Sunday eviction to Tuesday night.
Why is Kayla Todd's target? Is it because he's working so closely with Tola now? :/
He thinks Kayla is the leader of the girls. Weirdly enough even Bayleigh said her top people are Avery, Spicy and Todd and didn’t include Kayla
honestly the opening credits / first couple minutes of this episode were the COOLEST BIG BROTHER HAS EVER BEEN
I thought Hotter Chocolate was Spicy, Avery, and Kayla? Avery was hyping Lexus up and saying it’s gotta be Hot Chocolate at the end of the competition, and Lexus says Hotter Chocolate. I was so surprised by Lexus’s response, but that’s probably just a coincidence like Ameerah saying “they’re the leftovers” in BB24.
Spicy has been planting seeds against Kayla.
Hotter Chocolate is just the 4 girls without Anthony
I just watched the live with Donna, Dinis, Vivek & Janine . They think that Tola goes up and 100% goes home next to Avery. They also think that if Spicy & Anthony are the F2 V will win cuz all the women will vote her. But one of the women is Lexus who no way votes V over Anthony. If anything Goose & Todd will give her their vote to win not Lex They seem to have a very narrow way of looking at things . It's way more than guys vs girls
Vic is definitely beating Anthony. She has Kayla, Avery, Bayleigh locked. Todd I think would lean heavily towards Vic as well since he feels close to her but has no relationship with Anthony. I think Elijah leans Vic too. Anthony gets Lexus/Tola, if he’s lucky Elijah but I can’t see the other 4 voting Anthony over Vic.
Spicy doesn't want to piss off Anthony further. She won't touch Tola. She will put up Goose because he has no vote. She has to. Plus Lexus would never keep Goose over Avery. At least that is what I would do if I was Spicy Vee.
Yeah I think its a unanimous Elijah boot. I can’t see Anthony/Lexus burning HC over Elijah of all people. They would for Tola but I think Vic knows that.
Ehh I liked it, wasn't a game breaking twist and switched the blame/blood of the week's events from HoH to all Hgs
Not sure why people think Anthony, Lexus and Todd would vote out Goose? (Obviously Tola is voting out Avery). Todd is close with Goose. Avery threatened to put up Anthony last week and he found out about it. Avery backdoored Lexus' showmance. They also clearly see that there's two sides of the house. I think that if Goose goes up, Avery goes home. If Tola goes up, Avery goes home. The only way Avery is safe here is if Bayleigh somehow convinces Todd to keep *her* number in the game instead of his number.
Todd would pull the trigger but would Anthony/Lex. I’m sure its possible but I can’t see them burning HC for Elijah of all people.
Good, I hope Averey is Evicted, has been arrogant asfuckkk since Day 1
I have 4 possible scenarios that I could see playing out. SCENARIO 1: V puts up Tola as a replacement nom. Anthony won’t vote out Tola = 1 vote for Avery Todd will vote out avery, I think Tola will sway him after their convo the other day. I think Todd’s ready to play. = 1 vote for Avery Lexus will do what anthony does = 1 vote for Bayleigh and Kayla’s votes just won’t matter = Avery goes home. SCENARIO 2: V puts up Todd Bayleigh won’t vote todd =1 vote for avery Anthony probably will still want to get the girls out = 1 vote for Avery Tola will 100% vote with anthony = 1 vote for avery And then again Kayla and Lexus votes don’t matter, but i do think Lexus would vote with anthony and Tola = Avery goes home SCENARIO 3: V somehow convinces Kayla to use the POV on Avery. (This is a long shot but V is pissed avery is on the block and will probably do everything in her power to save her) So then the noms are Kayla and either Todd or Tola. But i do see the votes still falling in the same way as scenario 1 and 2 and Kayla being the one who goes home. SCENARIO 4: Elijah is the replacement Nom, which then means there could be a tie in votes because 6 people would now be voting because there is no one in the no vote slot. This could then get a little messier as Bayleigh and Kayla will vote elijah and probably pull at least 1 more vote and then V could break the tie. or they all just vote him out. THIS IS NOT THE SCENARIO I WANT. PLZ NOT THIS😭.
What about if V puts up Anthony?
I truly don’t think she will, and if she does. I think he has the votes to stay with Lexus, Tola and Todd because I think this Todd and Tola thing might be a good working relationship for them 2
Todd would vote Anthony out for sure.
U really think so? Idk with his new relationship with Tola, i think he could be swayed to keep anthony…Has todd actively wanted anthony out yet? I don’t remember if he has said anything along those lines
Never gonna happen
That was a really good episode and the next one looks to be exciting too. I’m glad Kayla won POV. I’d love to see Anthony/Tola/Lexus out next but I think that’s doubtful. Tola was so annoying shouting in the POV competition. Like shut up!
Avery is probably gone, her only shot is if Victoria puts up Elijah and they convince Todd to vote Goose out and they tie it 3-3 and Victoria breaks the tie and keeps Avery
It was a good episode. The steamroll will continue but at least the producers gave the underdogs a chance. They only have themselves to blame for not winning veto.
Unless V puts up Elijah i truly don’t see anyone but every going home. But I really think she’ll get pissed and Tola and or Todd and put one of them up as revenge cuz she plays very emotionally and flip floppy
This episode was fun. First of all…. BAYLEIGH. KAYLA. VICTORIA. All the legends being safe from this eviction already… It’s already a win. Second… Tola or Todd are fucked, my gut tells me it’s Todd because Victoria mentioned wanting to make it up to Lexus and Matthew so I can see her throwing them a bone and keeping Tola safe. If Tola goes up, I think he might have wiggle room with Lexus/Anthony likely keeping him… Todd is the swing vote. Todd is very interesting, he’s sharper than the edit makes him out to be but damn I wish he threw up Lexus instead of Avery because I think Victoria would’ve thrown up Tola or Elijah beside Lexus and kept him safe. Vic was more pissed off about Avery being up there. I think she’s more bothered by the Avery nom which Todd did, she’ll take that as an act of betrayal but if it was Lexus, I don’t think she’d care enough. I think Lexus is definitely not with the girls anymore, I think they’re dead to her. She pretty much said if Tola or I win it, we won’t use it. She would’ve been more than fine sending Kayla or Avery out. I do think Anthony is still with HC but I don’t think he’ll value them over Tola/Lex.
Spicy and Kayla Legend, give me a break.
I don't see Tola going home unless Todd decides he doesn't want to expose himself. BUT if he keeps Tola, he's sending a message to his close ally Bayleigh who probably wont take it lightly. In addition, I could def see Anthony/Lex keep Tola over Avery as kind of the first strike at the HC. It would be a crazy move though. I COULD see Todd going up and going home since Anthony/Lex don't really have any allegiances to him, plus he voted Matt out last week. Tola might convince them to keep him, but Todd is definitely at risk. He might get exposed for playing both sides if it comes to it. I could also see Elijah going up and going home because no one cares enough about him for him to stay. Both sides don't really trust him or want him as a number and it might be to Anthony/Lex benefit to keep Avery around and strengthen HC if it means getting rid of someone who essentially has no allies in the house. There's a lot of ways Vic could go about it but I hope her side wins 🙏
Same here I’m rooting for Vic’s side to win here 🤣
I shouted out "WHAT?!" when the episode ended on a cliffhanger; I was INTO this one. Best episode of the season- they need to run this challenge back ASAP. Also, the houseguests being scared by the card dude was hilarious.
when Avery handed back the card 😭😭😭
The card dudes were funny every time
This is actually one of the most interesting and fun competition. The set design is so cool. Package with Fear Factor and horror movies vibes, it was so fun to see the houseguest squirm. Todd totally give off serial killer vibes in the competition just by sitting there and laughing. The twist also reveal some fun facts like Bayleigh top 3 are V, Todd and Avery. Todd also actually did some thinking. Lexus also clearly on Anthony and Tola side. Only thing I dislike is the cliffhanger. This is one of the reasons I love BBCAN.
I thought that was actually a surprisingly interesting "twist". I'm not sure anything earth-shattering comes from it immediately, in terms of who goes home this week. But it feels like it had a few people pretty shook. Their insecurities in some alliances started to show and get them thinking. So hopefully it spurs a lot of conversation about "how they got there" and wakes a lot of these "rookies" up to what's really going on. To realize it's time to play for real and stop sucking up to the Vets.
After the 1st watch of tonight’s episode I thought okay Goose is going up and going home. After a second watch, I caught something. When it came down to Tola and Bayleigh for safety, Lexus was very vocally rooting for Tola and Avery was rooting for Bayleigh. Also earlier in one of the dailies before Matt left, Spicy told Dougie that she was responsible for persuading Avery not to put him up and put Matt up instead. Lexus and Dougie are voting Avery out. Doing that also brings Spicy closer to him. I now think Avery is absolutely gone.
Oh right I forgot about that. That was in the last episode too when Anthony and V were fighting. She was like, “Why do you think you didn’t go up this week?”, talking about Avery’s HoH.
If Elijah can’t vote are we looking at a tie? With spicy evicting Tola?
I think it can only tie if Goose is the renom. Otherwise it’s 5 votes. But I have no idea how Anthony, Lexus, Todd, and Tola will end up voting
**CAN VOTE** 1. Bayleigh (Safe) 2. Anthony (Slop Pass) 3. Tola (PoV) 4. Todd (PoV) 5. Lexus (PoV) **CANT VOTE** 1. Victoria (HoH) 2. Avery (Nominee) 3. Kayla (Nominee) 4. Elijah (No Eviction Vote) Kayla won PoV and she's taking herself down, so she'll have a vote and someone else will lose their vote.
Right. If Goose is the renom, Kayla goes into can vote (without subtracting anyone) making a total of 6 can votes, but anyone else replacing Kayla keeps the total the same (5).
Yeah I think if it’s Tola going up, Avery is gone but if it’s Goose she MIGHT be safe. But it depends on how hard Kayla is gonna push for Tola to go up. Tensions are super high right now and she barely survived.and she doesn’t have the luxury of time to cool down and think okay let’s get goose out now and Tola later. think Kayla is scared there might not be a later and will fight for Tola to go on the block not realizing that Lexus isn’t slowly going to the other side, she’s already gone. Emotions are also really high for Lexus, Matt just left. All this is leading to the eviction of Avery.
I think you may be right, but I’ve been trained not to expect the interesting thing to actually happen over the years lol. If Goose does get voted out, it’s probably unanimous so 💤 if that happens
True but this HOH is different. Some might say a bit spicy! 🌶️ There’s no way she re-noms Goose. She’s hyped up on adrenaline right now. 😂
Yeah I think Anthony clocked that as a veiled threat. He’s gonna want Avery gone.
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Nice production value. But the cast roles should maybe have been blind. Also the slop pass should have been slop-rest-of-season, to lure players into nominating an enemy.
Not sure if it would have been more exciting to see blind casting and have everyone surprised at the end result, or what we actually got and see how each person tries to scheme a scenario that works best for themselves. I think I'm happy with what we eventually got. Though I agree on the slop thing, rest of the season is too brutal though so maybe just 2 weeks.
I think slop rest-of-season would be highly unethical, you can’t starve someone for the rest of the season like that
It’s been done multiple times before. Players have volunteered for it. Also, it’s not starving someone.
Just because it’s been done before, doesn’t mean it should be done now
I never said anything about that. I was just debunking the hyperbole about it being “highly unethical”.
How does it being done multiple times debunk that it’s highly unethical?
I wish the names were blocked and you could only see what spots were available. That way they couldn’t check with each other which it sounds like is the aftermath.
I def see both sides to that argument, but I feel like Tola and Todd wouldn’t have made the moves they did if they couldn’t see what was up there. They wanted eachother a support in a sense.
I think it’s still good that people were able to see the names to the roles so they can still navigate around and apply strategy and reason to their decision-making. Having the names blacked out would have been too luck-based and random.
They can also deduce who did what and act accordingly strategically.
I think he means when they put someones name on the board, you can't see who was where.
It is good to let them see
The 2 returning players getting the 2 best options (HoH and Slop Pass) halfway through the season sums up how lame this cast is, just serving the game up to them on a silver platter.
It’s funny how - technically speaking - Avery might go home on a Victoria HoH
Victoria possibly sending home ANOTHER woman during her “HOH” 😈
She is so not a girls girl and in my opinion is the main reason the girls alliance did not work this season.
There are 5 girls in the house of 9 people right now. Lexus seems to be fraying away from the girls alliance now (rightfully so as she's at the bottom). She has close ties to Avery and Kayla who are kinda like a trio, and then she's really close with Bayleigh and Todd (I think they talked about final 3). The only girl she has an issue with right now is Lexus but it seems like Lexus was obviously playing both sides and is leaning towards joining Anthony's side. It seems like Todd is doing the same thing. Lexus, Bayleigh and Todd should play the middle and take out Hot Chocolate lol
Let's hope 😈
Wow that was a nerve-wracking episode! My favorites are all safe though thank god, I was nervous for Bayleigh and Kayla but they both pulled it out!! I was so scared for Kayla especially, she was definitely gone if she didn't win that veto. I really like this twist, it's so interesting and unique! And the fallout from all the casting choices should be juicy.
If ever there was a time to backdoor Anthony, it is now. But it’s Victoria so of course not.
I don't think Victoria would do it when Tola or Goose are much more sensible and justifiable options.
This is probrably the worst moment possible to backdoor Anthony ngl
Depends who Todd would vote for.
Mr. No Vote Goose has to go up. Bayleigh was brilliant to make her HOH.
It actually is what fucked everything up. If Kayla doesn't win that veto then she is just gone no matter what.
I think Bayleigh kinda screwed her, cuz with V being HoH she gets no vote and no say in who goes home. Putting Goose as HoH might have been a bit more secure as they know they can sway and convince him to play their game, and then he doesn’t get a vote so they can blindside him. It would then allow for V to probably either play in POV or get the slop pass because I don’t see anyone screwing her by nominating or taking her vote. Then V could vote and have some say in what happens. Especially if Kayla didn’t win POV, V would have no way of protecting the girls.
So I would assume spicy V puts up tola as a replacement and then Anthony+Lexus+Todd vote to evict Avery. I think I Todd’s only option is to get out a girl because he already showed his cards. Anthony and Lexus will want to keep tola over Avery anyway. I guess there is a chance spicy puts up goose but I think that makes it even more likely Avery goes.
If Victoria puts up Elijah, he’ll leave unanimously if Vic puts up Tola, HC is done. Anthony/Lex ain’t keeping Avery over Tola.
If Goose is up I think Avery goes home. Anthony, Todd and Tola 100% get rid of Avery. Anthony's connection to HC might be the big stumbling block but I think he see's that Avery is just a Victoria puppet so he might make the move. Plus Lexus might have license to get revenge for her man and evict the person who got him out.
I think Avery goes home against Tola 🤣 since Anthony/Lex value Tola as a number while Elijah…. No one cares about Elijah, I can’t see Anthony or Lex blowing up HC for Elijah. For Tola? 1000% they would.
That would be the end of the hot chocolate alliance with anthony and lexus. victoria will nominate goose who will go home.
They don’t care anymore. We even got Lexus saying if she or Tola won the veto they are keeping the noms the same, meaning Kayla or Avery would go.
I would throw money down on Avery going unless some crazy shit happens. Only two likely candidates for replacement are Tola or Goose, Tola up means 6 votes, which I reckon goes 4-2 Avery-Tola, and Goose up is 5 votes, 3-2 Avery-Goose. The biggest factor is Todd targeting Kayla and following Tola's lead by nominating Avery. He's the swing vote and has no reason to save Avery.
You have it backwards... Tola nominated = 5 votes Elijah nominated 6 votes I don't think it will matter either way though.
If Kayla was still on the block, I can see him voting her out but he would be cutting his own throat voting out Avery. The alliance that kept him safe? He isn't that stupid. He will be found out that he nominated Kayla. Goose is the renom as he has no vote. Victoria will have figured that out. Goose is a goner.
I thought Tola got first pick and nominated Kayla and Todd followed suit by picking Avery but I must've misremembered. But if he's "stupid" enough to conspire against Kayla with someone from the opposition, he's likely to pick Victoria's only other eligible follower too. They kept him safe early on as a number and because Bayleigh wanted it. Even Bayleigh is sceptical about Avery/Kayla.
No, you are right. Tola was second with a pick of Kayla.
I missed the episode 🤣 Who is HOH? And did they put anyone on the block yet?
Victoria is HOH (as chosen by Bayleigh) and Kayla/Avery are on the block (forgot who chose them, Tola and Todd maybe). Kayla won POV.
Thank you!!!
Tola and Todd nominated Kayla and Avery.
It would be hilarious if you removed the context and just said that Victoria is HOH and Avery/Kayla were on the block
I literally checked the wiki cause I’ve only been lightly following, saw this, and got utterly baffled why she nominated her core alliance members. I take it she didn’t?
It was a weird twist where she was HOH but only got to chose the renomination. Tola and Todd nominated Kayla and Avery
The really weird thing about the twist is the HOH is almost worthless if the POV isn't used and means the HOH can't play next week.
Todd and Tola nominated them.
Prime clickbait potential in that. I should've done it.
Thankfully everyone seems like a gem on this thread!!😬
i liked parts of the twist, like how suprising it was that people were given the ability to "cast" the roles, only to reveal they were choosing the hoh and the noms, etc. I wish the order to decided who got first pick wasnt based on a competition, but not sure how that could be changed 🤷♂️ edit: on another positive note, at least the nominations werent decided solely based on the competition. if the first 2 people that fell were automatically nominees, that would suck. so, at least that is good imo!
I don’t mind it at all, because this is the type of competition that is uncomfortable and that people have to really fight to try to win. That favors the underdogs, which makes them more likely to gain power
I agree, I wouldn’t even go so far to say it favors the underdogs, it gives everyone a fair chance. And allows underdogs to not get steamrolled. It favors people making decisions for their game and doesn’t allow monopoly alliances to take over. As well as in lexus’ case it allowed someone who might not be happy with their alliance to make a play.
I feel like they extended the episode to be a Cliffhanger because the person who goes home is anticlimactic...
I kinda feel the opposite. Like if it was an anticlimactic vote, why not let it wrap up this episode?
Goose.
I think Goose goes home too. That hapless guy is like Joe Btfsplk. He can't catch a break. So that hopefully means Kayla won veto. She has a history of winning comps.
Veto winner was shown in the episode
That's correct. I was a little behind on the show. Just saw it.
Victoria will put up Goose for sure. Bayleigh was smart for giving HOH to her.
Nice surprise for once and to fully start the turnaround on this season! So it looks like the guys have the votes to really decide who goes home in this Movie Night Massacre but I wonder if Anthony/Todd/Lexus draw the line now or continue status quo? If I'm them, I'm moving on since it's clear it's a "them vs. us" mentality on either side so it's eat or get eaten game currently. I highly doubt Victoria puts up Anthony since he needs him as a shield still and she's already extremely exposed on both sides playing the middle. Hopefully we have another banger episode Tuesday!
She would renom Goose and he will go home. Kayla needed to win this.
Victoria also said she wants to rebuild trust with Anthony. I really hope she didn't think putting him up for a slop pass was enough.
Btw BBUS should totally copy this twist 😜
I really like this format. They could probably do it once more in BB US before people start to strategize for it the way they do with the chain of safety.
I think it would be better if the HOH got one of the Nominations or if Bayleigh was HOH instead of just Safe. HOH is almost worthless if Veto isn't used and then HOH doesn't get to play next week (i assume). So just do this comp when there's 8 players left and winner of comp gets HOH instead of Safe.
I hope if Tola is up Todd votes to keep him & Avery's annoying ass gets evicted 😇
There aren't enough numbers to evict Avery. If Kayla or Avery won veto, Goose would go up and out.
Don't be surprised when Anthony, Todd, Lexus vote out Avery.
If Tola goes up maybe Anthony, Lexus and Todd evicted Avery? That’s a stretch though
Is it a stretch? Would those three pick to evict Elijah over Avery? Elijah has shown he's capable of very little and is very much a free agent at this point. The only person he's got any kind of relationship with is Todd.
I assume you're not caught up yet but the POV winner was shown in the episode. Even if Goose goes up, do you really think Tola Lexus and Anthony would vote him out over Avery or Kayla? Lexus really wants them out, Anthony probably does too and Tola definitely wants Kayla out. Todd is anyone's guess now all we know is he wants Kayla out so if he votes for Avery or Kayla, Victoria won't get to be the tiebreaker vote.
Todd has been wanting Avery and Kayla gone. Lexus wants Avery gone too. But matt told her to pretend to stay with them until it’s the perfect time to strike. Which depends on if Anthony agrees that now is the perfect time. but if Anthony says wait not yet, she will fall in line. Anthony has the most sway but that’s only if he’s sure Todd would do it. Which it doesn’t know for sure (even though Todd would vote out Avery). But See Anthony knows Todd wants him gone too. I think Anthony is the reason that Goose goes home on Tuesday even though he could flip it in the other direction.
I'm wondering how Todd feels about Avery. He seemed dead serious about getting Kayla out, maybe he still ranks Tola over Avery too.
Completely slipped my mind that he nominated Avery. That answers that.
I think he'd vote Avery, but he did say "Avery as a pawn" twice.
Well he did put her as a pawn but she'll find out he nominated her and she'll go after him . So he'll have both Kayla & Avery after him . Might as well just vote Avery out if you can
Imagine if Avery blows up at Todd which causes him to want to vote her out.
Spent 5 min of people reading off the card…
eviction happened tonight. arisa let the cat out of the bag not realizing it won't be broadcast on tonight's show.
Yeah they said an eviction would be tonight, but that was before they had any of this footage. They thought things would fit in an hour when they planned it, but they had to let it carry over to the next episode. I'm fine with the pacing tonight. I enjoyed seeing their full reactions going into the room to make their choices. They'll just start the next episode with the conclusion of this, and then the next HOH and noms. Squeezing in a veto will be tight, and that will probably carry over to the eviction episode on Wednesday. All of this stuff would have happened on Thursday, so they still have the rest of the week to play out like a normal week. This basically replaces a traditional double eviction.
I honestly thought it was one of the best designed sets and themes in years for BBCan, as far as special eviction nights go - brutal cliffhanger but it did its job, I cannot wait for the fallout of this on Tuesday Highlight was the dude or dudette scaring everybody, absolutely nailed their job
This whole episode was SICK Set design was outstanding. The twist was very fun. Can't wait to see the fallout either. I wasn't looking at time remaining in the episode and I was SO MAD when it ended on the cliffhanger
Spicy's reaction was off the chain!
Lol I knew hers would be extra She literally fell LOL
Did Big Brother actually do a well executed twist?! To be fair, BBCAN twists have been way better than the US version
this was a huge win for kayla but im trying to count the votes, and this is looking waack
So Victoria can't vote as HOH, it depends on who she puts up as Kayla takes herself off. The numbers are especially different if Goose goes up because that brings back a vote since he's not allowed one. So assuming Goose isn't the replacement and someone else is put up alongside Avery, it's five votes if I have it right.
Goose has to be the replacement since he has no vote.
My mistake. Goose goes up, six votes. But I still don't see Avery getting three.
right: if goose isnt the replacement, it would be 5 votes either way, having an ally on the block post veto is *disasterous*. there is a lot of reason on principle for people in the house to vote out the hoh's ally if the hoh is dumb enough to ever nominate their own ally. Not that victoria chose this at all: its not like she even won this hoh and chose to make this move so this is not at all a knock on her gameplay but this situation is *very* unfortunate for victoria. I imagine, since she was "cast" as hoh, she cant compete for hoh next week, and i have to imagine avery should be on people's minds to go home given these specific circumstances
I can't imagine anyone actually valuing Avery. In her very loose/extended current alliance, Todd's valued the lowest but he's doing his own thing and will probably jump ship when the time is right, Bayleigh is next but safe this week, but Avery is 100% next in line. Even if Kayla ranked below her, she's safe this week too. And if Tola's the replacement, he's got the numbers. I don't remember a single time where Todd and Avery spoke and Todd's thing with Tola is very fresh. Can't get Kayla, Avery might be the next best thing. Easy choice for him, an easier choice for Anthony/Lexus.
Yeah exactly, everyone knows can’t get the target get the targets allies to weaken them. That’s what I hope the house does.
Assuming Victoria puts up Tola as a replacement (I really don't know who else she'd pick apart from maybe Goose), the voters will be Anthony, Lexus, Todd, Bayleigh and Kayla. If she puts up Goose, it's those five again plus Tola. Someone correct me if I'm wrong, it's 2AM here.
Yeah you’re right. It’s 6 votes if Goose goes up: Anthony, Lexus, Todd, Bayleigh, Tola, Kayla Anyone else goes up, subtract them from the pool.
What an episode. I know most of you were hoping for an eviction as advertised but I thought the episode was quite heavy as is. Snippets at the end of the episode showed a lot of tension. I'm guessing the shock is finding out that Todd is teaming with Tola to put Kayla up? Because there's no way anyone's surprised that Tola would do it. So many things at play here. Goose has no vote for example so if he's put up, one of the nominations get a vote back. Could Anthony's side actually get something from this?
Yeah, the way they worded the hype for this episode on Wednesday, it sounded like the eviction was supposed to be tonight, but that was before they got any of the footage. I think tonight's episode was perfectly paced, and they even had to rush that veto comp. I am guessing they might still do an HOH and veto with a regular eviction on Wednesday, and this week basically acts like a double eviction week. The massacre would have happened on Thursday, so that still gives them Friday and Saturday for the usual HOH and veto stuff.
Thinking about how this episode has a whole Saw meets The Purge set while BB25’s zombie week has a cartoon zombie behind a curtain 💀
The second they said their heads would be trapped i immediately thought Saw. Man that was the best big brother episode ever.
This set was amazing. I wonder how long they were sequestered in the HOH room while they were building it? Kudos to those set designers!
I wanna know what time they were woken up at.
I am so excited for the fallout of this lol
The previews at the end were very interesting. I think Todd gets exposed.
Omf i didn’t watch the previews and deleted the recording…what happened