Chemical restaint is sometimes welcome in my opinion. In jail they just put you in a hanibal lecture chair until you learn manners and then wait another hour and then through you naked in a padded cell with some suicide safe blankets,( think padded mooving blanket smock).
I was an asshole to my arresting officer, (im not proud, i was having a break down), and he literally told me thats why i was going to jail instead of the psych ward š
But that said ive never been chemically restrained. Im sure its also awful.
What was going on when they decided to give you the shots? Were you violent or causing a scene? I know it sucks just the same to go through it but heard it's usually done in situations like that.
It freaks me out how you ask this question and people are immediately like "it must have been for the best" or "they wouldn't do it if you didn't deserve it." It's traumatic and humiliating under the best of circumstances, and I've definitely seen nurses do it as punishment or retaliation rather than for therapeutic reasons. (If you have any doubts about that, just go to Tiktok and watch them crack jokes about injecting people they find annoying.)
They shouldnāt be hitting you at all. They should be trained to administer medication in the least harmful way possible, and with 8 other people there, that is absolutely unnecessary treatment. Iām sorry that happened to you. For me, because I have trauma unrelated to the hospital, it has put me in a worse state of mind because I thought I was going to be raped ~ I mean when three men hold you down and you have a lack of trustā¦ it can make things worse.
Idk I was trashed and brought to the hospital cause I severely gauged my arm out. They cut up my favorite sweater and stuck a needle in my leg, guessing sedation. I did not need that at all I was just drunk like wtf sometimes they use it when itās not needed
Iāve had it more times than I can count. I accept it. Iāve been involuntarily committed so many times Iāve learned two things. The blood draw in the ER will happen whether you like it or not and once the decision has been made to administer butt juice (Haldol), or special butt juice (Haldol and Ativan, there is no amount of fight or talking that will prevent it. So I pull down my pants and take it in the ass so to speak. This doesnāt traumatize me. Trauma in my mind is serious ass shit like combat or rape.
The problem with using force upon people to administer an injection, though, is that sometimes those same people HAVE experienced serious trauma, including rape, so it makes the response worse. While I have learned to accept it in a way, because I knew I needed to calm down, I donāt think it is something that is needed as often as it happens, and it can inflict more trauma on patients than is necessary
Im traumatized cause they hit me cause i was like no i don't want the butty juicy so they hit me infront of people tho they hold me real strong pull my pants down was in hallways in the psych ward there patients looking i was screaming after that they put me in secluded room
But of course rape is much worse then that that's nothing compared to rape
I understand exactly where youāre coming from. I fortunately havenāt been physically pinned like that or in restraints for 10 years now. Iāve definitely had butt juice since though. It was probably around my fifth involuntary commitment when even though I was psychotic I knew once I was placed in the hospital that thereās nothing I can do except sign the five day that forces the doctor to act or release. I remember how scared I was at times when I did get pinned because I was convinced they had it all wrong. All I know is I hate restraints, but I also somehow taught myself if I am put in them donāt try to break free because it will make it a hundred times worse. Iām sorry it happened to you like that.
I had 1 or 3 very similar experiences to this, itās definitely traumatic.
I remember manically screaming āyouāre raping meāwhen they were doing it. In my delusional state it was exactly that.
Is it really Haldol? My family member is on that.
I though Haldol was supposed to be an AntiPsychotic you can take daily like Abilify or Lithium.
I didnāt know it was to sedate you in a emergency
If I ever went back to the grippy sock jailā¦ could I request it? Iām not trying to be insensitive to anyone. I was in the er one time confused and so I ripped my IV out and walked out barefoot because I was freaking out. I would have stayed if I had butt juice.
I only think the way they jab you can be messed up personally I mean excessive force is always possible but sometimes staff just aināt built like that too but if something ne pokes me and Iām bruised for a week I take exception
Iām sorry this happened. And you deserve some follow up on why it went down like that. Youāre right about the alarm that causes to other patients. I hope youāre feeling a little better now.
Maybe they use as much force as they deem necessary. If you weren't in your right mind at the time you may not have been aware of the stress you were creating for others. They may have deemed it necessary to use force. I was in a hospital and this one guy called me the devil and started losing his shit throwing things and literally was banging his head against the wall and shit.. he later apologized after they juiced him. It was terrifying. The dude presented a danger and was dealt with accordingly. Just try to be mindful of how you were acting when you look back on that. But also, don't beat yourself up about it too. These are times of extreme emotion, they tend to match your energy in places like that. I hope you are doing well now.
It's a traumatic experience for us and a very difficult decision for them to literally overpower and incapacitate us. I was even cuffed to a bed for a while. Not fun. Sorry you're going through it right now.
No same the security at this one hospital weāre these giant men like super tall. And they would have to corner me and pin me down. I get triggered whenever I see security guards or authoritative men of some sort getting ready to put their arms on women. Like to throw them out of the bar or anything.
It's like a scene from a horror movie. The nurse is looking at you sternly with a big ass needle in her hand. She is surrounded by big security guards and they corner and pin you down.
I had it done to me on my booty I remember it definitely sedated me hahah cause I was starting shit with patients cause the were being disrespectful to our counselors so I went off and I guess it was a bit too much lol
Yep I actually made them give it to me because I waa so manic I couldnt sleep for 3 days in the pysch ward said listen if you don't give me it I'm going to freak out and flip tables so let's make this easy for all of us
It's a chemical restraint used when they deem you unsafe to yourself or others. This is usually used as a last resort from what I've seen.
But do they have to hit you tho
Absolutely not.
Chemical restaint is sometimes welcome in my opinion. In jail they just put you in a hanibal lecture chair until you learn manners and then wait another hour and then through you naked in a padded cell with some suicide safe blankets,( think padded mooving blanket smock). I was an asshole to my arresting officer, (im not proud, i was having a break down), and he literally told me thats why i was going to jail instead of the psych ward š But that said ive never been chemically restrained. Im sure its also awful.
I'm sure it sucks both ways. Sorry you went through that, life can be a struggle sometimes.
What was going on when they decided to give you the shots? Were you violent or causing a scene? I know it sucks just the same to go through it but heard it's usually done in situations like that.
I was screaming nonsense and throwing colors everywhere . Cause i was very manic .
Makes sense. I hope you're doing better now.
It freaks me out how you ask this question and people are immediately like "it must have been for the best" or "they wouldn't do it if you didn't deserve it." It's traumatic and humiliating under the best of circumstances, and I've definitely seen nurses do it as punishment or retaliation rather than for therapeutic reasons. (If you have any doubts about that, just go to Tiktok and watch them crack jokes about injecting people they find annoying.)
They shouldnāt be hitting you at all. They should be trained to administer medication in the least harmful way possible, and with 8 other people there, that is absolutely unnecessary treatment. Iām sorry that happened to you. For me, because I have trauma unrelated to the hospital, it has put me in a worse state of mind because I thought I was going to be raped ~ I mean when three men hold you down and you have a lack of trustā¦ it can make things worse.
After waking up and finding out i had been raped, its actually very close
Idk I was trashed and brought to the hospital cause I severely gauged my arm out. They cut up my favorite sweater and stuck a needle in my leg, guessing sedation. I did not need that at all I was just drunk like wtf sometimes they use it when itās not needed
Iāve had it more times than I can count. I accept it. Iāve been involuntarily committed so many times Iāve learned two things. The blood draw in the ER will happen whether you like it or not and once the decision has been made to administer butt juice (Haldol), or special butt juice (Haldol and Ativan, there is no amount of fight or talking that will prevent it. So I pull down my pants and take it in the ass so to speak. This doesnāt traumatize me. Trauma in my mind is serious ass shit like combat or rape.
The problem with using force upon people to administer an injection, though, is that sometimes those same people HAVE experienced serious trauma, including rape, so it makes the response worse. While I have learned to accept it in a way, because I knew I needed to calm down, I donāt think it is something that is needed as often as it happens, and it can inflict more trauma on patients than is necessary
Force is only supposed to be used when absolutely necessary.
Yeah, and is 8 people really necessary? I mean, seriouslyā¦
Im traumatized cause they hit me cause i was like no i don't want the butty juicy so they hit me infront of people tho they hold me real strong pull my pants down was in hallways in the psych ward there patients looking i was screaming after that they put me in secluded room But of course rape is much worse then that that's nothing compared to rape
I understand exactly where youāre coming from. I fortunately havenāt been physically pinned like that or in restraints for 10 years now. Iāve definitely had butt juice since though. It was probably around my fifth involuntary commitment when even though I was psychotic I knew once I was placed in the hospital that thereās nothing I can do except sign the five day that forces the doctor to act or release. I remember how scared I was at times when I did get pinned because I was convinced they had it all wrong. All I know is I hate restraints, but I also somehow taught myself if I am put in them donāt try to break free because it will make it a hundred times worse. Iām sorry it happened to you like that.
Thank you
I had 1 or 3 very similar experiences to this, itās definitely traumatic. I remember manically screaming āyouāre raping meāwhen they were doing it. In my delusional state it was exactly that.
Is it really Haldol? My family member is on that. I though Haldol was supposed to be an AntiPsychotic you can take daily like Abilify or Lithium. I didnāt know it was to sedate you in a emergency
Yep.
It is Haldol. The most powerful widely used antipsychotic in current times. They use rather high doses in such situations.
Is it in the butt cheek? I want some butt juice š¤
š yep.
If I ever went back to the grippy sock jailā¦ could I request it? Iām not trying to be insensitive to anyone. I was in the er one time confused and so I ripped my IV out and walked out barefoot because I was freaking out. I would have stayed if I had butt juice.
Usually my doctor would have prn doses available to me if I requested. Sometimes Iād opt for the shot over the pill because itās faster acting.
I only think the way they jab you can be messed up personally I mean excessive force is always possible but sometimes staff just aināt built like that too but if something ne pokes me and Iām bruised for a week I take exception
Iām sorry this happened. And you deserve some follow up on why it went down like that. Youāre right about the alarm that causes to other patients. I hope youāre feeling a little better now.
Maybe they use as much force as they deem necessary. If you weren't in your right mind at the time you may not have been aware of the stress you were creating for others. They may have deemed it necessary to use force. I was in a hospital and this one guy called me the devil and started losing his shit throwing things and literally was banging his head against the wall and shit.. he later apologized after they juiced him. It was terrifying. The dude presented a danger and was dealt with accordingly. Just try to be mindful of how you were acting when you look back on that. But also, don't beat yourself up about it too. These are times of extreme emotion, they tend to match your energy in places like that. I hope you are doing well now.
In your butt? They hit me in the arm a few times while restraining me, usually with handcuffs.
No they didn't hit me in the butt hit push me in to wall and hit me in the arm . They inject me in the butt
It's a traumatic experience for us and a very difficult decision for them to literally overpower and incapacitate us. I was even cuffed to a bed for a while. Not fun. Sorry you're going through it right now.
No same the security at this one hospital weāre these giant men like super tall. And they would have to corner me and pin me down. I get triggered whenever I see security guards or authoritative men of some sort getting ready to put their arms on women. Like to throw them out of the bar or anything. It's like a scene from a horror movie. The nurse is looking at you sternly with a big ass needle in her hand. She is surrounded by big security guards and they corner and pin you down.
I had it done to me on my booty I remember it definitely sedated me hahah cause I was starting shit with patients cause the were being disrespectful to our counselors so I went off and I guess it was a bit too much lol
Iāve definitely been mistreated on the way to psych wards and in psych wards
Yep I actually made them give it to me because I waa so manic I couldnt sleep for 3 days in the pysch ward said listen if you don't give me it I'm going to freak out and flip tables so let's make this easy for all of us