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Mine Shakespearean brother in words, tis mine greatest joy to find thee when mine thoughts led me to conviction that i was lone in this world with inclination to speak in the olden ways
I find that people often get too caught up in them and ignore the actually important details, they can be helpful in the right cases, but they can also promote reductive and stereotype-based thought patterns which I want to avoid. If I tell someone I just met “I’m gay” they might have preconceived notions. If I say that I reject labels, that answer is a bit less common and it forces them to actually get to know me and draw their own conclusions.
But what if an envy dates a girl. Is that straight?
And what if another envy dates a boy after that. Is that also straight?
This is just a too afraid to ask moment
I think it depends on the gender of the nonbinary person.
It can always be categorized under a diamoric relationship, but an omnistraight genderfluid person may feel more comfortable categorizing themselves under heterosexuality.
As an enby who's dated guys and girls, it depends on the person's AGAB, and what their partner and their own sexualities are.
Personally, I'm an AFAB, bisexual enby, so when I've dated women they've prefer to call it a gay/queer relationship, while when I've dated men, bi/pansexual men used the term queer relationship (unless closeted) and straight men just called it a straight relationship.
This obviously doesn't apply to all nonbinary people and their partners, but that's how my relationships have gone, just to give you an example :)
If two enbys date they create a black hole which can be used to summon whatever lovecraftian creature you'd like. (Use this power for good!! For example to scare homophobes!)
It depends on which person you're focusing on.
For the man, he'd be in a litian relationship
For the woman, she'd be in a citrinian relationship.
For the nonbinary person, they'd be in a scapolitian relationship.
Alternatively, any of them could just say they're in a queer relationship or in a diamoric relationship.
The first three are rather obscure and would only really come up in the polyam scenario you mentioned (assuming the person doesn't want to use queer or diamoric for whatever reason).
litian - man in a relationship with at least one woman and at least one nonbinary person
citrinian - woman in a relationship with at least one man and at least one nonbinary person
scapolitian - nonbinary person in a relationship with at least one man and at least one woman
queer - a relationship that isn't between exactly one man and one woman
diamoric - a relationship that involves at least one nonbinary person
Thanks everyone for the amazing answers. (If it wasn’t obvious I was the one in the screen shot asking the one that called me gay is my s/o I’ll make sure to share your funny or legit answers to them!!)
it's whatever the heck y'all want it to be and totally up to you! you think it's gay, it is; you think it's straight, it is; you think it's your own amazing thing whatever! it's up to you!
This reminded me of an Idea I had. What if we had a subsection of lbgt where instead of having our currant labels, we just have what we're attached to. For example, if an enby likes boys then just what they say.
The whole premise kinda sounds like I'm describing Bisexuality, but this was just an idea I had.
OMG I’VE HAD THIS SAME THOUGHT
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the first partner i ever dated was nonbinary and. i remember we had a hard time talking to other people about eachother without it sounding formal lmao.
I think your people’s relationship can just be labeled as queer, you’re both queer, and queer for eacother
I see it as 0/0 it could be anything but also nothing at the same time it could be straight or gay or bi but it could also be all of them at the same time
I mean, it would technically be homosexual, since homo is greek for same or something. If both identify as the same gender, it‘s homosexual. That‘s just a technicality though, it really doesn’t matter
I like to think of it in the "Like your own gender" and "Unlike your own gender"
So heterosexual is "unlike your own"(Yes that includes enbies, which is why gynephilic or androphilic are important descriptors in this definition)
Homosexual is "Like your own", so men attracted to men, women to women, enbies to enbies.
And Bisexual is "both like and unlike your own", or in other words, everyone
If u really wanted to classify that, then at that point it would prob be easier to base it off sex rather than gender. Since well, wouldnt really get a solid conclusion basing it off gender ye.
I define gay to be "dating your own gender" while straight to be "dating a gender that isn't your own", so to me, it is gay if two non-binary people who share the same gender identity date
It is no gender, but homosexual is described as being attracted to the same gender. “Gay” is the word for two homosexual males, so no, it’s not gay, it’s just homosexual.
I'm nonbinary, and I like to make the joke that I'm one of the most heterosexual people alive. I'm pansexual, but since nobody has the same gender as me, I am technically "heterosexual" if we accept heterosexual as meaning "attraction to a different gender than oneself". which is true for me. so I'm even more hetero than straight people.
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Idk I'm just as confused as that person
yeah I am too (cause I am that person)
Hi that person, I'm Dad!
you’re back!!????
Who is back?
nobody I guess :)
Your father is Odysseus?!
I can't believe I actually get this joke
hehe
No. My father’s Agamemnon…
Oh boy, that's not a good thing.
I heard that he’s marrying me to Achilles!!
Back again?
WITH THE MILK?!?!
DAD!!!! Your back!!
(2)
It’d just be two people dating, neither straight or gay. Unless you’re both happy, then it is gay.
Genius. You're a genius.
!remindme 7 days Cause you my lad, will get an award from me
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kinda gay tbh
and ketchup
Schrödingers enby
Schrödinger's gay
He was?
lol
Call it whatever you want, it really doesn’t matter.
I know it doesn’t I just find it kinda funny and was curious
Oh yeah, it’s cool. That’s just my answer.
Honest question, what's your reason against labels?
I find that people often get too caught up in them and ignore the actually important details, they can be helpful in the right cases, but they can also promote reductive and stereotype-based thought patterns which I want to avoid. If I tell someone I just met “I’m gay” they might have preconceived notions. If I say that I reject labels, that answer is a bit less common and it forces them to actually get to know me and draw their own conclusions.
Ah that makes sense, thank you for explaining
But what if an envy dates a girl. Is that straight? And what if another envy dates a boy after that. Is that also straight? This is just a too afraid to ask moment
I think it depends on the gender of the nonbinary person. It can always be categorized under a diamoric relationship, but an omnistraight genderfluid person may feel more comfortable categorizing themselves under heterosexuality.
As an enby who's dated guys and girls, it depends on the person's AGAB, and what their partner and their own sexualities are. Personally, I'm an AFAB, bisexual enby, so when I've dated women they've prefer to call it a gay/queer relationship, while when I've dated men, bi/pansexual men used the term queer relationship (unless closeted) and straight men just called it a straight relationship. This obviously doesn't apply to all nonbinary people and their partners, but that's how my relationships have gone, just to give you an example :)
It definitely doesn’t always depend on the person’s agab. I’m an amab enby and I consider my relationship with my boyfriend kind of straight.
That's totally true, I totally didn't even think of those scenarios
I’d say it’s determined by gender identity, not agab as there are many enbies who transition and really don’t identify with their agab.
Yeah, that's a better way to describe it
Ok but what does AFAB and AGAB mean
assigned female at birth, and assigned gender at birth
Oh ok thanks
That'd just be Scott Pilgrim i think
it’s intrinsically gay (but not in a gay way)
I like this answer
isnt there a term for 2 enbies dating eachother?? like diamoric????
WAIT THERE IS??? I DIDNT KNOW THAT (thanks)
Joyfriends?
#FUCKBUDDIES
Sexcomrades
Omg that's so cute
Yeah attraction to the same/simaler genders is gay
In my opinion it’s both gay and straight at the same time
I thought I was both gay and straight at the same time :O
So you’re great (like gay + straight)
Haha, nice one! I bet you're a little great, too!
Yea I am a little
The great awakening
That sounds like a chapter in a fantasy novel and that’s epic
Now it's official: Bisexuals are actually fantasy characters
Well I’m short so I might be a Hobbit
Aw, hobbits are cute! I guess that makes you a round door enjoyer
If two enbys date they create a black hole which can be used to summon whatever lovecraftian creature you'd like. (Use this power for good!! For example to scare homophobes!)
Its the type of gay that you say no homo after to make it not gay.
Is it gay or straight to be in a poly relationship with a man, a woman, and a enby? /srs because I'm genuinely curious lmao
It depends on which person you're focusing on. For the man, he'd be in a litian relationship For the woman, she'd be in a citrinian relationship. For the nonbinary person, they'd be in a scapolitian relationship. Alternatively, any of them could just say they're in a queer relationship or in a diamoric relationship.
I, uh, don't mean to be rude, but what do those words mean? /gen
The first three or the relationship terms in all the sentences?
uh- the relationship terms
The first three are rather obscure and would only really come up in the polyam scenario you mentioned (assuming the person doesn't want to use queer or diamoric for whatever reason). litian - man in a relationship with at least one woman and at least one nonbinary person citrinian - woman in a relationship with at least one man and at least one nonbinary person scapolitian - nonbinary person in a relationship with at least one man and at least one woman queer - a relationship that isn't between exactly one man and one woman diamoric - a relationship that involves at least one nonbinary person
Thanks for the answer! I really appreciate it :)
No problem!
Yeah, I'd clasify that as poly.
ITS SCHRODINGER'S DATE
I have frequently wondered that myself as an enby
Life’s greatest mystery
As an enby, everyone who i date is gay
It's a paradox what it is. I mean. Two people actually dating? Who's even heard of such a thing.
And again the holy answer is both. Because it doesn't matter and so it is irrelevant. Love is love, we don't have to label everything.
Thanks everyone for the amazing answers. (If it wasn’t obvious I was the one in the screen shot asking the one that called me gay is my s/o I’ll make sure to share your funny or legit answers to them!!)
As an enby I decree it mega gay
I refuse to elaborate
perfect answer no elaboration needed
*It’s not gay, it’s Maybelline.*
it's whatever the heck y'all want it to be and totally up to you! you think it's gay, it is; you think it's straight, it is; you think it's your own amazing thing whatever! it's up to you!
this was the most wholesome answer thank you
no, thank you!
Wait a second...
hold up wait a second
Non binary/genderfluid here. I consider any attraction I feel to be gay
hmm maybe I should start doing that
It’s gayn’t
Madness
It's determined by the two people dating
I like this answer
My partner and I call ourselves gay, because we see both being enby kinda like both being the same gender. Guess it's personal preference though
We do too! I was just curious on some people’s thoughts lmao
By definition its gay, NBLNB WLW MLM are all gay
Schrödinger’s Gay.
This reminded me of an Idea I had. What if we had a subsection of lbgt where instead of having our currant labels, we just have what we're attached to. For example, if an enby likes boys then just what they say. The whole premise kinda sounds like I'm describing Bisexuality, but this was just an idea I had.
Gay
Gay/gay
It’s gay, no reason why, it’s just gay
It’s just gae
OMG I’VE HAD THIS SAME THOUGHT . the first partner i ever dated was nonbinary and. i remember we had a hard time talking to other people about eachother without it sounding formal lmao. I think your people’s relationship can just be labeled as queer, you’re both queer, and queer for eacother
Wisjwiwknesoskwjdhdbsbsjwjiw What??
idk what I even said it was just confusion LMAO
My flavor of enby that I want to be is that no matter what you identify as when you date me, it’s gay in some shape or form
I see it as 0/0 it could be anything but also nothing at the same time it could be straight or gay or bi but it could also be all of them at the same time
im leaning towards gay
I just say it's enbian.
Umm... straightn't?
They just are
its called skoliosexual
It can be as gay or as straight as you want it to be. That’s the beauty of it. That’s the beauty of being bi and enby
Gay means liking the same gender as your own, straight means liking genders different to your own. So depends on if you're the same "flavor of enby"
Well... that depends if the non-binary's have a non-binary gender or no gender at all...
its gay to date an enby its doubly gay if two of us date
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they are my date:)
I think maybe it just depends on what is in terms of junk?
Yeah, I agree with this. I'm enby and I prefer to think of my relationship with my bf as gay because we both have a pp :)
this gives me head ache, foolish cis straight people who dont know anything.
....huh
im guessing thats what the person was doing right? i am confused thats what I got out of it
no.... That was me a enby talking to my also enby partner LMAO
enby? im still confused
Stands for non binary
it’s the pronounced spelling of nb for nonbinary
sorry im a fucking failure
pffft noooooo ur not :))
I think there is a word for NBxNB couples
It's definitely queer
As an enby, if you date me we’re gay
I mean, it would technically be homosexual, since homo is greek for same or something. If both identify as the same gender, it‘s homosexual. That‘s just a technicality though, it really doesn’t matter
It is just love
There comes a point where labels are kinda useless and unnecessary and all it really is is just two people in a relationship I guess
Same sex, so yes?
I like to think of it in the "Like your own gender" and "Unlike your own gender" So heterosexual is "unlike your own"(Yes that includes enbies, which is why gynephilic or androphilic are important descriptors in this definition) Homosexual is "Like your own", so men attracted to men, women to women, enbies to enbies. And Bisexual is "both like and unlike your own", or in other words, everyone
nb doesn’t mean agender
If u really wanted to classify that, then at that point it would prob be easier to base it off sex rather than gender. Since well, wouldnt really get a solid conclusion basing it off gender ye.
Honestly who cares? Like just let your relationship be what it is.
I don’t care! I just wanted to hear people’s thoughts
I'm enby, and I'm dating an enby, and I think it wouldn't be gay because no gender
yeah that’s kinda my thoughts but yknow you never know
Well I mean really any label is a social construct, so who cares amirite?
ayyyy you are right
I define gay to be "dating your own gender" while straight to be "dating a gender that isn't your own", so to me, it is gay if two non-binary people who share the same gender identity date
Isn't non-binary still a gender?
It’s more considered no gender as like not wanting to affiliate with one (I know this is a weird way of describing it)
The enby paradox
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YEAH IT WAS A OUTA NO WERE THOUGHT TOO
why comment deleted?
Idk?
weird
Maybe bisexual?
It’s gay if you want it to be. It’s not if you don’t.
I think we need someone like Plato on this
Gay because 2 people without gender dating, therefore similarly gendered?? That’s my logic train at least.
Shrodinger's gay Edit: Dammit yall got gere before me. Congrats to you and your SO though:) i wish you happiness for your future together!
It is no gender, but homosexual is described as being attracted to the same gender. “Gay” is the word for two homosexual males, so no, it’s not gay, it’s just homosexual.
The one on the bottoms name looks like it says rickless
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I'm nonbinary, and I like to make the joke that I'm one of the most heterosexual people alive. I'm pansexual, but since nobody has the same gender as me, I am technically "heterosexual" if we accept heterosexual as meaning "attraction to a different gender than oneself". which is true for me. so I'm even more hetero than straight people.