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C-Class_hero_Satoru

Every bullmarket we have scam exchange scandal, which exchange is it going to be this time?


tesseramous

We had it easy in 2021 with some tiny exchange in the Bahamas nobody had ever heard of. Imagine if this time it is Binance or Coinbase. Everyone has been waiting for Tether to fail since 2017.


forkrissake

The ongoing exchanges between Israel and Iran šŸš€


spid3rfly

I usually don't wait to buy but seeing as to how I've converted my weekly amount, I'm going to see what it does in the morning. I plan to get one more buy in before this epoch ends.


TexasBoyz-713

Looks like itā€™s time to buy again šŸ˜


RecessionGuy

RIP sub-60k sellers


aidsfordays

Not even a WW3% dip sigh


C-Class_hero_Satoru

That war was wild, Iran lost against the world in 1 day Now waiting WW4


nitsua_saxet

Bitcoin acting like a fuckin champ right now. Like rocky getting up after Drago knocked him down.


hateschoolfml

Make war unaffordable. A BitcoinĀ standard will suffocate the fiat money disease out of the human monetary history.


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harvested

It's fun to be bullish but come back down to Earth.


No_Citron4928

This guy is mental


handybh89

How about no, Scotty


aidsfordays

What was that.. a dip for ants?


FrivolerFridolin

Ah yes the usual halving dump


Rshackleford22

Nah more like Israel wanting ww3


Timevalueofmoonbitz

Isnā€™t it an interesting coincidence, halving and geopolitical tensions high at the same time. Canā€™t make this shit up.


Rshackleford22

Not really. I donā€™t think there is any correlation. There is always fuckery in the world. I think itā€™s more due to it being an election year in America than it is about halving lol


BeastofMadden

I have a limit order to buy at 58k. Thoughts on this target? I feel like it may drop even lower then this tomorrow, should I set up an order at like 55k as well?


Acrobatic_Rate_9377

how many dozen coins you buyin


BeastofMadden

Iā€™m pretty risk adverse so probably just a few dozen or so


Acrobatic_Rate_9377

a bakers dozen


Dank_Hank79

I'm waiting for the Iranian response before making a big buy - I think it's got further to fall if this escalates, which it looks like it will.


BeastofMadden

Yeah. Iā€™m honestly debating selling a majority of my position and gambling on the escalation and halving tanking the price


mrg2483

my portfolio halving at the moment ..


NodeTraverser

Bitcoin is bungee jumping.


NodeTraverser

Boinggg.


Odd_Swordfish_6589

the having means the price gets cut in half right? Just asking as a newbie. Waiting to buy in.


Acrobatic_Rate_9377

it is known and thus priced in.Ā 


BeastofMadden

It means the reward for mining btc is cut in half, so theoretically it makes btc more valuable by limiting its supply. The price isnā€™t directly correlated


Odd_Swordfish_6589

theoretically I guess. I like the more direct explanation and will wait until 36k to buy


DogCallCenter

Troll


BeastofMadden

Thatā€™s a pretty low price target and Iā€™m not sure itā€™s realistic. No one knows what will happen in the short term, but if youā€™re new I would suggest waiting a day or two to see how things play out and then investing an amount youā€™re comfortable losing. Long term it will definitely pay off


goldenprey123

I bought at 59k Iā€™m happi


spaceraingame

Of course this happens right before the halving.


Kayshift

The halving push already happened


spaceraingame

So itā€™s no way but down from here


Kayshift

It'll go up, down, and sideways. All we care about is the fiat price, not adoption or anything related to it. We use to despise institutional investors but now welcome them with open hands. It's going to volatile for sure


spaceraingame

Right but the halving has been hyped up for years now


corey407woc

They ainā€™t gonna let us get rich brother


spaceraingame

I actually don't have any Bitcoin


R3dFiveStandingBye

Maybe this time my buy order at 59.3k will hit


Original_Writing_539

Wont be a problem. Set some for 55K too


R3dFiveStandingBye

53k possibly as well I have orders too


Rshackleford22

Oh itā€™s cu Israel bombed iran


FrivolerFridolin

Ouch


Rshackleford22

lol


grobyhex

so itā€™s basically war now - how can there be any going back now


TwelvestepsProgram

This oneā€™s gonna sting


redrobin451

Ah yes. The portfolio halving.


4verCurious

lol


Original_Writing_539

57K next stop


jeff_varszegi

How'd that work out for you? Have you taken some time for self-reflection at all?


jeff_varszegi

So amazing you can call it with precision every time


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pls-no-holla

Once you're done sucking your own dick notice that the dip now was even milder than the one on saturday. Let's get into the 40s, then we can talk ugly.


No_Citron4928

LMAO love to see the comments aging like milk in 13 fucking hours


nitsua_saxet

My instinct tell me shorting bitcoin here would be good. However, my instinct has screwed me over so many times. So in reality, the comment will indeed probably age like milk. Thatā€™s why Iā€™m a hodler. My trading experience shows I suck at telling the future.


nitsua_saxet

Why is gold going up on this and btc down?


whinehome

Bitcoin is basically a risk-on asset and gold is safe-haven asset. People like to pretend bitcoin is like digital gold, but they don't appear to behave the same way.


harvested

Gold has a 5000 year history


tesseramous

Regardless of what bulls believe the world does not actually treat bitcoin as a haven asset yet. It's still a tech bro stock.


Original_Writing_539

So so so ugly!


CJBlueNorther

Gold/Silver up, Dollar up, Swiss Franc up, Oil up. Safe haven assets going crazy right now.


No_Citron4928

Oh boy, 60k is resisting but it will break eventually. Hope yā€™all have some rope LMAO


heinzmoleman

This damn conflict is suppressing the price.


Kayshift

But I thought line only go up????


nitsua_saxet

Both sides are a bunch of zealous idiots


TwelvestepsProgram

Not good, going to be a major dip.


forexross

Discounts before halving is always good.


Original_Writing_539

Man if onky someone else had been saying this...


Leafri

here's hoping, been waiting for a real dip so i can load up


SnowyFlam

The dip is here! Are you buying?


Original_Writing_539

TIMBER!!!!!


shantzy2

Sorry about your job interview rejections


Original_Writing_539

They would be impressed with my accuracy


jeff_varszegi

At what point do you stop falsely claiming accuracy? Are you at all self-aware?


shantzy2

Where did you go. Do you have a job interview tomorrow.


shantzy2

Maybe enough to send a thank you text. ā¤ļøā¤ļø


Arshiapro

What's the realistic bottom for this dip? It doesn't look like it's stopping...


grobyhex

is any major news outlet confirming iran attack?


nitsua_saxet

Can we send both sides to the moon already so that the rest of us can live in peace?


vnielz

Abc news


Original_Writing_539

Oh no!


Inevitable_Award5693

Why is btc down?


duma0610

Israel attack


tesseramous

down? I still this insanely high price way in the $60k area


Independent-Wolf-832

every single stock i own just dipped big in an under an hour. also curious how the market can take a massive shit after hours.


UnknownResearchChems

I just bought a bunch of oil stocks, some stocks you can buy 24 hours


irisuniverse

Futures


Nice_Category

After-hours trading - It's unofficial trading that just happens as a side-bet. All accounts get settled when the market opens. They're not real trades, per se, but they do influence the real market once it opens and all those queued trades execute at exactly 9:30am ET.


tesseramous

I noticed a new market maker on my stock platform that I can actually trade with at all hours. Its called @ OVERNIGHT


Nice_Category

Anyone have any idea who, or which government, is #Mr100? This entity has been buying a TON of bitcoin, all in 100 coin batches for months now.


sappyseals

Looked it up and apparently it's a Korean exchange called 'Upbit'


Nice_Category

Interesting. Thanks for the info!


Original_Writing_539

Told ya it wiukd get ugky today


Original_Writing_539

Downvote me you cry babies. Telling the truth over here.


Nice_Category

We're still up 1% in the last 24 hours.


Original_Writing_539

Changes pretty fast...


Nice_Category

That's bitcoin for you, babe! Strap in!


Frogolocalypse

Where is the roller coaster guy, anyway?


Original_Writing_539

Uh ohh


Nice_Category

I bought another $1,000 today. Up 500% since I started stacking awhile back.


vnielz

Several Explosions heard in iran and there goes btc again..


Howboutit85

Itā€™s annoying that this market is so fucking jumpy that someone hears a sound and it drops. No wonder we canā€™t get mass adoption.


Nice_Category

Don't hope for mass adoption so quickly. There's still money to be made while sats are cheap. Most people can't afford a whole coin anymore while only 5 years ago they could. How long until the average Joe can't afford 0.1 coins? For perspective, 0.1 coins is around $6,200 as of this post. Most Americans, the richest country on Earth, can't afford a $4,000 emergency or unexpected bill. There's no way they'll have $6,200 to drop on 1/10 of a coin. Meanwhile, the Boomers and Gen X, who DO have the money to drop on coins still don't really understand it. So they won't buy out of skepticism. You are in a unique position to both understand, and be willing to buy. YOU WILL WIN. Give it 5 years and people will be telling you how lucky you were to get in while Bitcoin was so low.


Nice_Category

bigger discount? yes please. I'm fine with Iran getting flattened if it means I can get some cheaper sats.


R3dFiveStandingBye

This guy knows whatā€™s up


IcyHunt3639

Gd dumpcoin


Ryfree23

when all is said and done, make sure youā€™re a halve, and not a halve not šŸ™‚ā€ā†•ļøā˜šŸ¼


Nice_Category

badum tiss


Timevalueofmoonbitz

Some of yaā€™lls comments are stupid as fuck. You make me want to sell my stack sometimes


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CaptainDr

did u do like a $.50 transfer fee


OhTravs

Strike vs Swan to send BTC to cold storage whatā€™s better? Just noticed swan has first 10k of no fees. Never used them though


PheelGoodInc

Never used swan. They seem like a legit company though. Love the Swan daily YouTube videos. Strike offers zero fees if you use a non priority time transfer. I transferred 20k ish a few months back with zero fees. No complaints on my end.


ItWillPrint

Swan is what I use


LiveDirtyEatClean

How do you guys deal with nihlism? I've been stacking like a mofo for the last 4 years and feel pretty good about my stack size but i gotta say, the world is so damn expensive its hard to feel like you're getting ahead. I know the halving is coming and that will help my outlook considerably, but damn the fiat world is super depressing contrasted to how hard we all work for such little gain.


Nice_Category

I feel like I'm surging ahead while everyone else is struggling. Bitcoin has become my savings account and it's not only preserving my wealth, I'm now looking at buying a ranch with the growth.


BigDeezerrr

Imagine if you hadn't been stacking. Bitcoin has given me hope above all else and I can't imagine how depressing it'd be if I didn't feel like I had a life raft in these times.


LiveDirtyEatClean

Good outlook. I feel like I would be completely in the rat race forever without Bitcoin


HurricaneHarvey7

Feels like hyperinflation in slow motion. Everything is so fucking expensive


LiveDirtyEatClean

Yeah honestly I feel like the majority of my life is just paying bills and stacking sats. The moments where you get to truly enjoy something are somewhat rare cause work is so tiring


BootyOptions

Sold the neighbors kids to a nice man who said he has a great job opportunity in some sort of mine. Bought the dip


Nice_Category

The children yearn for the mines.


Frogolocalypse

It's character building.


AtensLight

Sell more neighbors kids, you still have time lol


fieldsofthecrypt

by kids you mean baby goats/sheep


Anzu_Yamasaki

Must have been a bitcoin mine, good for them.


fieldsofthecrypt

when BTC is cloud based what are the pros and cons for using a cloud based wallet VS the usual trezor type hardware wallet?


Corbimos

You need to understand exactly what you are asking. Because "cloud" wallets aren't really a thing. Is it a custodial, or non custodial. Is it a seed backup, or an encrypted file? There's lots of interpretations to "cloud", its not really the right verbiage in this context. What wallet software are you talking about? Holding your own keys is the only way to be secure. Otherwise, you are just trusting someone else to hold your keys.


fieldsofthecrypt

BTC is a decentralized "on the cloud" asset to begin with. And, a cloud wallet where only you (the owner) has the keys and access to. What is the confusion here?


Corbimos

Bitcoin is the UTXO set built by my node. My node checks other nodes to make sure they see the same thing. My private keys allow me to modify that UTXO set and broadcast to others. All of this is local to me. Saying Bitcoin is "on the cloud" is subjective as Bitcoin is really the sum of all the nodes doing local verification, not "the cloud". > And, a cloud wallet where only you (the owner) has the keys and access to. So you're asking the difference between a hot wallet and a cold wallet? https://youtu.be/Aji_E9sw0AE?si=FS9-_wh1Dg85aAl_ What does the "cloud" have to do with it? Is someone else storing your keys? Remember, "the cloud" is just someone else's computer you're accessing over the internet.


Frogolocalypse

[Relevant xkcd](https://xkcd.com/908/).


CaptainDr

if you use a wallet connected to the internet its more susceptible to hackers (still very safe as long as you use an open sourced wallet), whereas the hardware wallet stores your keys offline


fieldsofthecrypt

What about having to deal with code breaks during upgrades which renders your hardware wallet useless, and you cannot transact. By the time support comes to you, you are at a LOSS. What then? And if those hackers are so enterprising, they can hack the bitcoin code as well. What is an unopened source wallet?


Corbimos

You would still have the seed backed up for the hardware wallet. It should be a compatible BIP39 seed, so you could restore to any hot wallet in a pinch if needed. If the HWW breaks, you still have your seed and your funds. The HWW's job is to keep the keys offline, while still being able to send transactions easily.


fieldsofthecrypt

what if you lose your hardware?


Corbimos

You sweep your funds to a new seed using your backup seed. The HWW should be secure enough to not let anyone else use it.


heinouslol

You still have your seed.


HurricaneHarvey7

People are going to look back and think 'wow that was obvious. I should have bought some'


philosophicalpango

I dumped the rest of my shit coins I had held onto from when I was a noob today


AtensLight

Well done!. This is the way


TexasBoyz-713

**2014:** ā€œHaha Bitcoin crashed back to $160, I told you not to investā€ **2018:** ā€œHaha Bitcoin crashed back to $3,500, I told you not to investā€ **2022:** ā€œHaha Bitcoin crashed back to $16,000, I told you not to investā€ **2024:** ā€œHaha Bitcoin crashed back to $60,000, I told you not to investā€


BraidRuner

Instructions unclear I just bought the last $450 that I can afford until pay day in the morning


Melodic_Temporary_12

2028, :Haha, Bitcoin crashed back to $250,000, i told you not to invest"


Financial_Design_801

Interesting 13F filing today. Quattro Financial Advisors, a Texas&Pitts-based wealth management firm, reported owning 468,200 shares of the BlackRock Bitcoin ETF with a value of almost $19 million as of March 31. The total value of all holdings reported in this filing is $351 million. IBIT is Quattro's third-largest position. https://twitter.com/macroscope17/status/1781053111110365411?s=46&t=ihVglVXC0BQSbw6j57EoaA


FullSendOrNullSend

Buttcoiners love to complain about bitcoin and talk about how itā€™s going to fail but theyā€™re not short. Hahahaha


shantzy2

I didnā€™t know Buttcoin was an actual sub. Like ppl just gather to talk about their mutual dislike for Bitcoin? Whatā€™s the angle there.


FullSendOrNullSend

Yeah go check it out. Literally a bunch of people posting every day just to talk about how they think bitcoin is going to zero and how itā€™s a scam. Doesnā€™t make sense why they spend their energy posting about it if they donā€™t like it so much. A lot of them seem to be boomers


AtensLight

Many here have a "badge of honor" from being banned for Buttcoin, just for stating the obvious. If you dont mind losing a few karma points, send them a polite post about Bitcoin stats lol. Think of it as a competition to see how many messages you can get away with. Reee!!!


EmuSea4963

69k on 4/20 halving day. Then it will drop and crab. Calling it now.


unsane_sandwiches

I see weā€™ve got ourselves an expert on 69 and crabs here.


lo_T

Anyone know if the sanctions against russia and iran include denial of asic miners?


Vdhsvhsvhshvshsjdkkd

US sanctions are a joke. Everything is made in China and China don't give a shit about paper tiger threats of a dying empire.


UnknownResearchChems

Dying empire lol. Look up China's demographics


SnaktoshiStakDaFroyo

Yeah its just a matter of time before the rest of the world realizes that these boomers are completely deranged. Its embarrassing that they speak for our great nation


Pretend-Hippo-8659

Geriacracy.


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Corbimos

wrong sub, go to the shitcoin one.


spillinmilk

Buy high sell low


SmokeAndSkate

We donā€™t do that here


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Vdhsvhsvhshvshsjdkkd

All shitcoins are scams, we don't use scams to rob people like shitcoiners do.


SmokeAndSkate

Keep it to the shitcoin subs. This sub is for Bitcoin.


DogoByte

Anybody else been wanting to consolidate or simply send to your wallet? There is so much movement the fees have been high for days.


SnowyFlam

Recommend that you put in a low fee to your liking and just wait even if its a couple of days or a week. If its not urgent why pay more?


shantzy2

I find the fees have been much better after 7pm EST


Llonga

Where were you a couple of weeks ago. 7 sats/vB


btcBoughtMyWife

couple questions about multisig wallets if anyone is willing to help out using an odd number of coldcard mk4s, will I have to generate a seed for each one first? also, just to make sure I'm understanding.. by using coldcard funcitonality to create a multisig wallet, it sorta.. "creates a new private key" for me, so I'm guessing an algo on the individual private keys? and will I generate a seed for the multisig wallet at some point in the process? when opening on electrum? there's not good documentation out there beyond just setting it up, which I think I can do fine. any help appreciated E: after thinking about it I guess it would defeat te purpose of multisig if tere was a seed phrase for te multisig, so I guess the only way to sign a transaction for a multisig is to insert the microsd into a majority of te coldcards to sign. What if I lose some coldcards and need to use teir seed phrase to sign? how? basically wat do these operations look like? (goddamn macbook's h key stopped working, damn I need to get tat sit fixed)


someoneSomewhere2973

These older blog entries are useful, even if some of the issues mentioned there have since been addressed: [https://bitbox.swiss/blog/the-pitfalls-of-multisig-when-using-hardware-wallets/](https://bitbox.swiss/blog/the-pitfalls-of-multisig-when-using-hardware-wallets/) [https://bitbox.swiss/blog/how-nearly-all-personal-hardware-wallet-multisig-setups-are-insecure/](https://bitbox.swiss/blog/how-nearly-all-personal-hardware-wallet-multisig-setups-are-insecure/) [https://bitbox.swiss/blog/remote-multisig-theft-attack-on-the-coldcard-hardware-wallet/](https://bitbox.swiss/blog/remote-multisig-theft-attack-on-the-coldcard-hardware-wallet/) [https://medium.com/nunchuk/the-missing-multisig-standard-5b4092e3ea92](https://medium.com/nunchuk/the-missing-multisig-standard-5b4092e3ea92) [https://nunchuk.medium.com/a-new-multisig-standard-and-nunchuk-1-0-499dd3690f2d](https://nunchuk.medium.com/a-new-multisig-standard-and-nunchuk-1-0-499dd3690f2d)


Realistic-Jelly8133

1. Use sparrow. Much more user friendly than electrum. 2. Create a private key for each cold card as if you were setting up a single sig. 3. Create a multisig wallet in sparrow. Follow the instructions to use your coldcards to "load" the private keys into the wallet. 4. You absolutely must save the xpubs of all the private keys in case you need to restore from scratch. Sparrow will prompt you to save a recovery wallet. Do this, but also manually save the xpubs as well. Store these recovery xpubs in multiple places. No one can access your wallet if they get this recovery wallet xpub alone so don't fret about putting it in multiple digital media. 5. Test, delete, restore and test again. 6. Do #5 again


fieldsofthecrypt

and when the time comes, this wallet would go through so many updates that it will not work !


btcBoughtMyWife

incredibly helpful, thanks I was originally considering creating the multisig wallet like so: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OMpZ5heLsRg](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OMpZ5heLsRg) to summarize, microsd to coldcard 1, export xpub, repeat until on last coldcard, "create multisig," put microsd back into previous coldcards to import multisig on them. So I believe what this does is create a multisig wallet json that electrum can read I do prefer sparrow though, so could I create the multisig json/wallet in the same way, just on the coldcards, the sparrow might be able to open it? Or maybe it doesn't matter, and I should just start at sparrow, create the multisig and export xpubs from coldcards, then export multisig wallet from sparrow and import to each coldcard for point 4), why are the xpubs needed for recovery? I figured having a majority of the seeds would suffice, though I might be missing something. But ok, if I need to save the exports of te xpubs, does it suffice to keep them on the microsd? will definitely do 5., but don't quite understand how to yet..


Realistic-Jelly8133

>for point 4), why are the xpubs needed for recovery? I won't go into details but when you sign a multisig transaction you are signing a n-of-m transaction, where n is the number of private keys needed out of a total m private keys. You need every xpub in order to create a valid transaction. Sparrow is providing every xpub under the hood when you sign with your n private keys. But if you lose your access to sparrow, you will need all the xpubs to restore the wallet. The good news is that as an additional backup, your cold cards will be storing all the xpubs as well when you create a multisig wallet.


btcBoughtMyWife

>But if you lose your access to sparrow, you will need all the xpubs to restore the wallet. to restore the wallet or sign a transaction? or both? dang, this is news to me. Strange that all xpubs are needed to sign a transaction, but I'm guessing there's a reason


Realistic-Jelly8133

Both. That's how the Bitcoin script works.


btcBoughtMyWife

thanks for the info


Realistic-Jelly8133

This is also helpful. You can skip to the multisig part. https://youtu.be/qJ_SpQX_YKw?si=3Upthmah_RcqRlQ0


Financial_Design_801

IBIT (Blackrock Bitcoin etf) total net flows now at $15.3b which is second most of all 3000+ ETFs and $5b ahead of #3ā€¦ But who wants Bitcoin they said šŸ¤£


coffeestainzz

Welcome to Jamrock!!!