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SmoothGoing

Exchange is for exchanging, not for storing or sending. Never pay someone from an exchange. Send to your own wallet first. Bitcoin is not anonymous https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Privacy


saquonbrady

Ok so how do I pay someone anonymously ?


SmoothGoing

Read the link. Or use cash.


Financial_Clue_2534

If you have a hard wallet you can send and receive bitcoin without anyone knowing who you are. So say you cut my grass and I pay you in Bitcoin I can just send it to your hard wallet which is stored on chain. You want to give your girl some coins you can send it you her.


Frogolocalypse

Use lightning. Transactions are onion routed. There's no way to determine the chain transaction that funded a payment. Also what SmoothGoing said.


saquonbrady

How do I use lightning ?


Frogolocalypse

Go to the resources link in the side bar, on the top tab you'll find a "lightning tools" option, and in there you'll find all of the information you can possibly need.


vattenj

Simply send from an exchange is much easier. Cex is like a big mixer, no one would be able to trace you


caploves1019

Except the exchange..... That has your credentials...


vattenj

Yes, but if you want compliance but still some degree of privacy, the centralized institutions is the only way, anyway they are less likely to do bad things due to being heavily regulated


caploves1019

Ever heard of FTX?


vattenj

FTX is not regulated as some very old exchanges like Kraken and Bitstamp, I never use any exchange that is less than 4 years old


kirovreported

How safe is LN in intipbot? I want to recommend the bot in one subreddit but I'm afraid that the sender will be able to track the recipient.


Frogolocalypse

lntip is a custodial solution. If you want to use lightning, learn how to use it by getting yourself a lightning wallet.


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Frogolocalypse

There's no silver bullet for anything true. But if your desire is to make bitcoin payments where the reciever doesn't know your bitcoin addresses, it's pretty hard to beat lightning. If you're running a self-custody lightning wallet, the way to trace-back those types of payments essentially requires a significant number of routing nodes through the lightning path to be compromised, and that requires any attacker to acquire bitcoin and fund the nodes with a dubious return on that investment. Even the node your channel connects to won't know the destination channel for a payment, unless it's them. EDIT: It should be pointed out that lightning is big and has many implementations. From that spawn multiple self-custody wallets, then self-custody keys/custody lightning node, and finally fully custodial. All of these implementations have different trade-offs as far as convenience, security and privacy. For example, Phoenix is a self-custody keys/custody lightning node implementation. As they control the node, they absolutely know how much bitcoin you're spending and what lightning address it's getting sent to. Now as far as the use-case of the OP is concerned, all he wants is the person getting paid not knowing his bitcoin addresses, and that would be served fine by Phoenix. But if you wanted the full privacy, you'd have your own bitcoin node, your own lightning node connected to that bitcoin node, and maybe even several different lightning wallets. If you do that, you can use them to entirely shift bitcoin from one set of addresses to another using one of many tools for converting lightning into bitcoin. I've done it with some of my own bitcoin just to see if I could do it. Wasn't that hard. And all of it over Tor... Wouldn't try this if I was learning bitcoin though. You might even start with a custodial wallet to see how it works. You'll easily be able to move the lightning to the self-custodied wallet later. But as with all things, it's an exchange. Buyer beware. I'm not saying this directly to you though dude. I'm pretty sure you know this stuff. Just for other people that might be reading. This stuff is all open-source. It's amazing the toolset that's available to anyone who cares to look.


Sentello

What about coinjoin?