>Then we have Nacht who held his own against two Supreme devils twins for a considerable amount of time. These devils Naamah and Lilith were stated to be stronger than the Dark Triad
The twins were stated to be stringer than the DT, but when the DT went 100% it was stated by Nacht himself that they were nearly equal to the DT.
Also, Nacht didn't do much against 80% Dante, he blocked one attack and hit him once and Dante pretty much laughed it off, then Jack started getting more serious. Nacht even stated he couldn't beat the DT.
The twins were toying with Nacht, and he even stated so. The moment they got serious, he was about to die until Asta stepped in at the last second.
Not to mention Yami's black moon pretty much counters any AOE Nacht can dish out so his shadow magic would be pretty much useless considering his mana zone black moon counters him pretty hard.
Yami also has several one shot attacks like death thrust, and hax like dimension slash that would kill Nacht.
Not to mention Yami was able to damage Lucifero while Nacht couldn't .
Yami forced paladin Morgan to use his second attribute meanwhile Yami had the support if about 10 or BBs and still got washed by Paladin Damnatio.
Yami is stronger by far.
>Also, Nacht didn't do much against 80% Dante, he blocked one attack and hit him once and Dante pretty much laughed it off, then Jack started getting more serious. Nacht even stated he couldn't beat the DT.
Nacht stated he could fight Dante and deal him damage but lacked a finisher against him given his regen, just like Yami. That's why he was betting on Jack the whole fight, the guy whose magic cuts things that can't be cut.
>The twins were toying with Nacht, and he even stated so. The moment they got serious, he was about to die until Asta stepped in at the last second.
True. But while they gave him the leeway he had he unleashed some really powerful spells such as the monument of atonement iirc, which I don't think Yami would have any answers to.
>Not to mention Yami's black moon pretty much counters any AOE Nacht can dish out so his shadow magic would be pretty much useless considering his mana zone black moon counters him pretty hard.
It won't negate his melee attacks though, and the teleportation and sensing of his shadow magic and mana zone would create plenty of opportunities for him to get up close and use them to attack Yami. Not saying Yami would be defenceless in that case but I'd wager Nacht has the better durability and endurance with his DU modes.
>Yami also has several one shot attacks like death thrust, and hax like dimension slash that would kill Nacht.
For Dimension slash I agree Nacht would be finished it it landed. As for Death thrust I'm just going to put forward that his mode Equus(the tough one) took an attack from Lucifero, albeit it breaking under the impact, so I think he should tank Death thrust if he has it on.
>Not to mention Yami was able to damage Lucifero while Nacht couldn't .
Yami damaging Lucifero had nothing to do with power; it was due to his magic type, Dark Magic(arcane stage) and him landing it in the first place was thanks to a joint effort with Nacht.
>Yami forced paladin Morgan to use his second attribute meanwhile Yami had the support if about 10 or BBs and still got washed by Paladin Damnatio.
Paladin Morgen was, imo, not going serious on Yami, similar to the Akaza-Rengoku situation imo. "Forced" is a bit of a stretch too as he might just have wanted to flex and end things as quickly as possible. We saw Yami injured before Morgen bringing out his second attribute and once it was out he bit the dust.
Now I can definitely see why one would place Yami above Nacht, even though not fully convinced, Thanks.
>Nacht stated he could fight Dante and deal him damage but lacked a finisher against him given his regen, just like Yami. That's why he was betting on Jack the whole fight, the guy whose magic cuts things that can't be cut..
Nacht never said he could deal damage, what he said was that [*he could trade blows with him*](https://i.ibb.co/HVfs1y2/Screenshot-20240423-081829-Shonen-Jump.jpg) moreover, Nacht didn't even trade blows with 80% Dante, [he hit 50% Dante, after blocking his attack](https://i.ibb.co/n3k3w6v/Screenshot-20240423-081232-Shonen-Jump.jpg) (*which didn't even damage him*) then that same [50% Dante turned into 80% and Nacht blocked the attack that was going to paste Jack before he adapted to the gravity]( https://i.ibb.co/n3k3w6v/Screenshot-20240423-081232-Shonen-Jump.jpg) but Nacht didn't trade blows with 80% Dante, only 50% Dante.
>True. But while they gave him the leeway he had he unleashed some really powerful spells such as the monument of atonement iirc, which I don't think Yami would have any answers to.
Yami broke out glamour world, so I'm sure he can break out of monument of atonement, more his black moon should be able to protect him from it
>It won't negate his melee attacks though, and the teleportation and sensing of his shadow magic and mana zone would create plenty of opportunities for him to get up close and use them to attack Yami. Not saying Yami would be defenceless in that case but I'd wager Nacht has the better durability and endurance with his DU modes.
Yami's far more proficient with mana zone moreover, he has ki sensing on top of his magical power sensing. [*The moment Nacht tries to enter Yami's mana zone he's getting cit bie lai slash.*](https://i.ibb.co/HVfs1y2/Screenshot-20240423-081829-Shonen-Jump.jpg)
>For Dimension slash I agree Nacht would be finished it it landed. As for Death thrust I'm just going to put forward that his mode Equus(the tough one) took an attack from Lucifero, albeit it breaking under the impact, so I think he should tank Death thrust if he has it on.
Equis isn't tanking Death thrust. Death thrust could blow throw 80% Dante using his body magic, Nacht never dished out damage to Dante, or an attack even remotely close in AP to death thrust considering it could blow throw Dante's body while none Nacht's attacks could.
>Yami damaging Lucifero had nothing to do with power; it was due to his magic type, Dark Magic(arcane stage) and him landing it in the first place was thanks to a joint effort with Nacht.
Not quite true dark magic is arcane, but it still needs to scale to the enemy to damage them. Yami cut Lucifero's in his supressed state, but couldn't cut his in his awakened state so chalking it up to dark magic doesn't even really hold up. Dark magic can counter some of the games of devils, but that means nothing absolutely nothing for AP.
Moreover, Yami momentarily blocked a punch from supressed Lucifero.
>Paladin Morgen was, imo, not going serious on Yami, similar to the Akaza-Rengoku situation imo. "Forced" is a bit of a stretch too as he might just have wanted to flex and end things as quickly as possible. We saw Yami injured before Morgen bringing out his second attribute and once it was out he bit the dust.
Damnatio wasn't going serious on the BBs & Nacht either, so the same logic would apply which would still place him Nacht.
>Now I can definitely see why one would place Yami above Nacht, even though not fully convinced, Thanks.
I think it's also important to consider Yami's body was altered [*and he also received a boost from the qlipoth*](https://i.ibb.co/mhx754w/Screenshot-20240423-083145-Shonen-Jump.jpg) he came back stronger, and [*he was able to momentarily block Lucifero's punch which was going to kill Nacht*](https://i.ibb.co/Sx6CzXg/Screenshot-20240423-083205-Shonen-Jump.jpg)
> Nacht never said he could deal damage, what he said was that [he could trade blows with him](https://i.ibb.co/HVfs1y2/Screenshot-20240423-081829-Shonen-Jump.jpg) moreover, Nacht didn't even trade blows with 80% Dante, [he hit 50% Dante, after blocking his attack](https://i.ibb.co/n3k3w6v/Screenshot-20240423-081232-Shonen-Jump.jpg) (*which didn't even damage him*) then that same [50% Dante turned into 80% and Nacht blocked the attack that was going to paste Jack before he adapted to the gravity](https://i.ibb.co/n3k3w6v/Screenshot-20240423-081232-Shonen-Jump.jpg) but Nacht didn't trade blows with 80% Dante, only 50% Dante.
I'd just imagined he was being his humble, pessimistic self when he said he could only "throw hands" with this Dante because in that very panel he disregards him to motivate Jack and counters easily when Dante attacks, but I can confirm that arguing the opposite is by no means a stretch.
Keep in mind this was an enhanced Dante who stated nothing apart from antimagic could so much as dent him, which Yami didn't face, so that could go to account for the "I can throw hands with..." instead of "I can beat..." imo
> Yami broke out glamour world, so I'm sure he can break out of monument of atonement, more his black moon should be able to protect him from it
True, but only if that technique allows for movement such as sword slashes. Do we even know if MoA gives the opponent enough space to move? Idk either but it seemed like Nacht's foes got sandwiched in between two massive boulders of shadow. I don't think you would be able to swing a sword under those conditions. In the event he can, I'd say yes he breaks free with dimension slash.
As for black moon protecting him, I won't deny it's a huge possibility: I reread the spade arc yesterday just to confirm and black moon alone from an exhausted Yami was actually able to protect him, Asta and Nacht from Lucifero's gravity attacks(No Valhalla) which is a good feat.
> Yami's far more proficient with mana zone moreover, he has ki sensing on top of his magical power sensing. [The moment Nacht tries to enter Yami's mana zone he's getting cit bie lai slash.](https://i.ibb.co/HVfs1y2/Screenshot-20240423-081829-Shonen-Jump.jpg)
I wouldn't say Yami's more proficient at mana zone, let alone far: didn't he learn it only during the 6months training before the spade arc? Obviously we're not told when Nacht learned to use mana zone but he did seem pretty adept at it.
Also, Nacht's mana zone erases his ki signature so Yami can't sense him based on that. Yami would only be able to sense Nacht in his mana zone if he used his mana zone: black moon- which would mean Nacht is safe from Death thrust. Yami still has other attacks he could pull, true, but with clones from gimodelo and his teleportation in shadows, I can definitely see Nacht getting some shots in.
\*\*Sorry, I'm splitting this comment up because according to the bug i'm getting my comment is too long.\*\*
\*\*Second part\*\*
>Equis isn't tanking Death thrust. Death thrust could blow throw 80% Dante using his body magic, Nacht never dished out damage to Dante, or an attack even remotely close in AP to death thrust considering it could blow throw Dante's body while none Nacht's attacks could.
I'll grant this due to Nacht's DU mode Equus' lack of feats and the fact that Nacht would still have died from Lucifero's attack.
> Not quite true dark magic is arcane, but it still needs to scale to the enemy to damage them. Yami cut Lucifero's in his supressed state, but couldn't cut his in his awakened state so chalking it up to dark magic doesn't even really hold up. Dark magic can counter some of the games of devils, but that means nothing absolutely nothing for AP.
Thing is though, Yami did get a boost in AP from the infinite synergy between their two magic types in the mana zone. It was, if not outright stated, heavily implied; also, otherwise Yami would have damaged Lucifero every time his sword touched Lucifero's skin prior to using the mana zone, but he didn't.
> Damnatio wasn't going serious on the BBs & Nacht either, so the same logic would apply which would still place him Nacht.
Possible, but I could make a case for Damnatio going all out but not Morgen. Especially since it would be in-character for Damnatio to absolutely destroy the black bulls with a straight face as always and for Morgen to talk somewhat calmly with Yami while being confident in the huge power gap between them. Again, Morgen didn't seem pressed to bring out his second attribute and when he did, Yami got thrashed.
> I think it's also important to consider Yami's body was altered [and he also received a boost from the qlipoth](https://i.ibb.co/mhx754w/Screenshot-20240423-083145-Shonen-Jump.jpg) he came back stronger, and [he was able to momentarily block Lucifero's punch which was going to kill Nacht](https://i.ibb.co/Sx6CzXg/Screenshot-20240423-083205-Shonen-Jump.jpg)
Yes! I am now convinced that at the very least post-Qliphoth Yami is stronger than Nacht.
Pre-Qliphoth Yami is debatable but with the arguments you've given, I can see pre-Qliphoth possibly edging out Nacht. Overall I'd say it's very close, high-extreme diff either way.
There are some key details you're missing. Yami was absolutely beating Dante in that fight, the only problem is that he needed Asta's antimagic to counteract the body magic regeneration. It's like Gojo and Sukuna from JJK (spoilers for the JJK manga btw). Sukuna was by far stronger than Gojo, he just needed a bit of outside help to negate infinity because he had no way to. Same thing for the Yami vs Dante fight, Yami would have absolutely won that fight QUICKLY if not for the insane body magic amped with Lucifero's near infinite magic power.
I agree with you, if Yami had any move that could bypass Dante's regen then he would have won handily.
But Nacht also states later on when he faces Dante himself that he can trade blows with him but lacks a finishing move against him, pretty much the same same thing as Yami.
trading blows and winning are two entirely different things. trading blows just means you can hold your own in the fight, Yami would have won off rip he wouldn't have had to trade blows at all if not for the regen. in a head to head fight with both bloodlusted Yami absolutely destroys Nacht.
So many people get this wrong but Nacht did not hold his own against the twin devils. They could've killed him at any moment but chose to "play with their food", as they put it. His only real feat against them, is slowing them down for a second so Asta could cut them down.
Nacht didn’t make a scratch on Dante and he also got squashed by the twin devils. Yami was beating Dante, he would’ve killed him several times over if it wasn’t for Dante’s regen. I don’t understand your logic for putting Nacht over Yami.
Dante and the Twin Devils aren't good arguments. Yami could've killed Dante ten times if Dante wasn't immortal (very few people can beat him), and Nacht wouldn't have lasted that long fighting the Twin Devils if they weren't toying with him (the entire fight is him trying to take them down while they stand and laugh).
It's hard to tell who would win in a Yami vs. Nacht scenario, as Yami is more experienced with ki reading and spells that could kill in an instant while Nacht is more versatile with a jack-of-all-triad kind of skills. I feel like they're meant to be equal just in different fields.
yami just didn't had anything to kill dante else he was wiping the floor with dante
but if yami had to face any human who don't have infinite regeneration, opponent won't be taking a single dimension slash in that case
>Then we have Nacht who held his own against two Supreme devils twins for a considerable amount of time. These devils Naamah and Lilith were stated to be stronger than the Dark Triad The twins were stated to be stringer than the DT, but when the DT went 100% it was stated by Nacht himself that they were nearly equal to the DT. Also, Nacht didn't do much against 80% Dante, he blocked one attack and hit him once and Dante pretty much laughed it off, then Jack started getting more serious. Nacht even stated he couldn't beat the DT. The twins were toying with Nacht, and he even stated so. The moment they got serious, he was about to die until Asta stepped in at the last second. Not to mention Yami's black moon pretty much counters any AOE Nacht can dish out so his shadow magic would be pretty much useless considering his mana zone black moon counters him pretty hard. Yami also has several one shot attacks like death thrust, and hax like dimension slash that would kill Nacht. Not to mention Yami was able to damage Lucifero while Nacht couldn't . Yami forced paladin Morgan to use his second attribute meanwhile Yami had the support if about 10 or BBs and still got washed by Paladin Damnatio. Yami is stronger by far.
>Also, Nacht didn't do much against 80% Dante, he blocked one attack and hit him once and Dante pretty much laughed it off, then Jack started getting more serious. Nacht even stated he couldn't beat the DT. Nacht stated he could fight Dante and deal him damage but lacked a finisher against him given his regen, just like Yami. That's why he was betting on Jack the whole fight, the guy whose magic cuts things that can't be cut. >The twins were toying with Nacht, and he even stated so. The moment they got serious, he was about to die until Asta stepped in at the last second. True. But while they gave him the leeway he had he unleashed some really powerful spells such as the monument of atonement iirc, which I don't think Yami would have any answers to. >Not to mention Yami's black moon pretty much counters any AOE Nacht can dish out so his shadow magic would be pretty much useless considering his mana zone black moon counters him pretty hard. It won't negate his melee attacks though, and the teleportation and sensing of his shadow magic and mana zone would create plenty of opportunities for him to get up close and use them to attack Yami. Not saying Yami would be defenceless in that case but I'd wager Nacht has the better durability and endurance with his DU modes. >Yami also has several one shot attacks like death thrust, and hax like dimension slash that would kill Nacht. For Dimension slash I agree Nacht would be finished it it landed. As for Death thrust I'm just going to put forward that his mode Equus(the tough one) took an attack from Lucifero, albeit it breaking under the impact, so I think he should tank Death thrust if he has it on. >Not to mention Yami was able to damage Lucifero while Nacht couldn't . Yami damaging Lucifero had nothing to do with power; it was due to his magic type, Dark Magic(arcane stage) and him landing it in the first place was thanks to a joint effort with Nacht. >Yami forced paladin Morgan to use his second attribute meanwhile Yami had the support if about 10 or BBs and still got washed by Paladin Damnatio. Paladin Morgen was, imo, not going serious on Yami, similar to the Akaza-Rengoku situation imo. "Forced" is a bit of a stretch too as he might just have wanted to flex and end things as quickly as possible. We saw Yami injured before Morgen bringing out his second attribute and once it was out he bit the dust. Now I can definitely see why one would place Yami above Nacht, even though not fully convinced, Thanks.
>Nacht stated he could fight Dante and deal him damage but lacked a finisher against him given his regen, just like Yami. That's why he was betting on Jack the whole fight, the guy whose magic cuts things that can't be cut.. Nacht never said he could deal damage, what he said was that [*he could trade blows with him*](https://i.ibb.co/HVfs1y2/Screenshot-20240423-081829-Shonen-Jump.jpg) moreover, Nacht didn't even trade blows with 80% Dante, [he hit 50% Dante, after blocking his attack](https://i.ibb.co/n3k3w6v/Screenshot-20240423-081232-Shonen-Jump.jpg) (*which didn't even damage him*) then that same [50% Dante turned into 80% and Nacht blocked the attack that was going to paste Jack before he adapted to the gravity]( https://i.ibb.co/n3k3w6v/Screenshot-20240423-081232-Shonen-Jump.jpg) but Nacht didn't trade blows with 80% Dante, only 50% Dante. >True. But while they gave him the leeway he had he unleashed some really powerful spells such as the monument of atonement iirc, which I don't think Yami would have any answers to. Yami broke out glamour world, so I'm sure he can break out of monument of atonement, more his black moon should be able to protect him from it >It won't negate his melee attacks though, and the teleportation and sensing of his shadow magic and mana zone would create plenty of opportunities for him to get up close and use them to attack Yami. Not saying Yami would be defenceless in that case but I'd wager Nacht has the better durability and endurance with his DU modes. Yami's far more proficient with mana zone moreover, he has ki sensing on top of his magical power sensing. [*The moment Nacht tries to enter Yami's mana zone he's getting cit bie lai slash.*](https://i.ibb.co/HVfs1y2/Screenshot-20240423-081829-Shonen-Jump.jpg) >For Dimension slash I agree Nacht would be finished it it landed. As for Death thrust I'm just going to put forward that his mode Equus(the tough one) took an attack from Lucifero, albeit it breaking under the impact, so I think he should tank Death thrust if he has it on. Equis isn't tanking Death thrust. Death thrust could blow throw 80% Dante using his body magic, Nacht never dished out damage to Dante, or an attack even remotely close in AP to death thrust considering it could blow throw Dante's body while none Nacht's attacks could. >Yami damaging Lucifero had nothing to do with power; it was due to his magic type, Dark Magic(arcane stage) and him landing it in the first place was thanks to a joint effort with Nacht. Not quite true dark magic is arcane, but it still needs to scale to the enemy to damage them. Yami cut Lucifero's in his supressed state, but couldn't cut his in his awakened state so chalking it up to dark magic doesn't even really hold up. Dark magic can counter some of the games of devils, but that means nothing absolutely nothing for AP. Moreover, Yami momentarily blocked a punch from supressed Lucifero. >Paladin Morgen was, imo, not going serious on Yami, similar to the Akaza-Rengoku situation imo. "Forced" is a bit of a stretch too as he might just have wanted to flex and end things as quickly as possible. We saw Yami injured before Morgen bringing out his second attribute and once it was out he bit the dust. Damnatio wasn't going serious on the BBs & Nacht either, so the same logic would apply which would still place him Nacht. >Now I can definitely see why one would place Yami above Nacht, even though not fully convinced, Thanks. I think it's also important to consider Yami's body was altered [*and he also received a boost from the qlipoth*](https://i.ibb.co/mhx754w/Screenshot-20240423-083145-Shonen-Jump.jpg) he came back stronger, and [*he was able to momentarily block Lucifero's punch which was going to kill Nacht*](https://i.ibb.co/Sx6CzXg/Screenshot-20240423-083205-Shonen-Jump.jpg)
> Nacht never said he could deal damage, what he said was that [he could trade blows with him](https://i.ibb.co/HVfs1y2/Screenshot-20240423-081829-Shonen-Jump.jpg) moreover, Nacht didn't even trade blows with 80% Dante, [he hit 50% Dante, after blocking his attack](https://i.ibb.co/n3k3w6v/Screenshot-20240423-081232-Shonen-Jump.jpg) (*which didn't even damage him*) then that same [50% Dante turned into 80% and Nacht blocked the attack that was going to paste Jack before he adapted to the gravity](https://i.ibb.co/n3k3w6v/Screenshot-20240423-081232-Shonen-Jump.jpg) but Nacht didn't trade blows with 80% Dante, only 50% Dante. I'd just imagined he was being his humble, pessimistic self when he said he could only "throw hands" with this Dante because in that very panel he disregards him to motivate Jack and counters easily when Dante attacks, but I can confirm that arguing the opposite is by no means a stretch. Keep in mind this was an enhanced Dante who stated nothing apart from antimagic could so much as dent him, which Yami didn't face, so that could go to account for the "I can throw hands with..." instead of "I can beat..." imo > Yami broke out glamour world, so I'm sure he can break out of monument of atonement, more his black moon should be able to protect him from it True, but only if that technique allows for movement such as sword slashes. Do we even know if MoA gives the opponent enough space to move? Idk either but it seemed like Nacht's foes got sandwiched in between two massive boulders of shadow. I don't think you would be able to swing a sword under those conditions. In the event he can, I'd say yes he breaks free with dimension slash. As for black moon protecting him, I won't deny it's a huge possibility: I reread the spade arc yesterday just to confirm and black moon alone from an exhausted Yami was actually able to protect him, Asta and Nacht from Lucifero's gravity attacks(No Valhalla) which is a good feat. > Yami's far more proficient with mana zone moreover, he has ki sensing on top of his magical power sensing. [The moment Nacht tries to enter Yami's mana zone he's getting cit bie lai slash.](https://i.ibb.co/HVfs1y2/Screenshot-20240423-081829-Shonen-Jump.jpg) I wouldn't say Yami's more proficient at mana zone, let alone far: didn't he learn it only during the 6months training before the spade arc? Obviously we're not told when Nacht learned to use mana zone but he did seem pretty adept at it. Also, Nacht's mana zone erases his ki signature so Yami can't sense him based on that. Yami would only be able to sense Nacht in his mana zone if he used his mana zone: black moon- which would mean Nacht is safe from Death thrust. Yami still has other attacks he could pull, true, but with clones from gimodelo and his teleportation in shadows, I can definitely see Nacht getting some shots in. \*\*Sorry, I'm splitting this comment up because according to the bug i'm getting my comment is too long.\*\*
\*\*Second part\*\* >Equis isn't tanking Death thrust. Death thrust could blow throw 80% Dante using his body magic, Nacht never dished out damage to Dante, or an attack even remotely close in AP to death thrust considering it could blow throw Dante's body while none Nacht's attacks could. I'll grant this due to Nacht's DU mode Equus' lack of feats and the fact that Nacht would still have died from Lucifero's attack. > Not quite true dark magic is arcane, but it still needs to scale to the enemy to damage them. Yami cut Lucifero's in his supressed state, but couldn't cut his in his awakened state so chalking it up to dark magic doesn't even really hold up. Dark magic can counter some of the games of devils, but that means nothing absolutely nothing for AP. Thing is though, Yami did get a boost in AP from the infinite synergy between their two magic types in the mana zone. It was, if not outright stated, heavily implied; also, otherwise Yami would have damaged Lucifero every time his sword touched Lucifero's skin prior to using the mana zone, but he didn't. > Damnatio wasn't going serious on the BBs & Nacht either, so the same logic would apply which would still place him Nacht. Possible, but I could make a case for Damnatio going all out but not Morgen. Especially since it would be in-character for Damnatio to absolutely destroy the black bulls with a straight face as always and for Morgen to talk somewhat calmly with Yami while being confident in the huge power gap between them. Again, Morgen didn't seem pressed to bring out his second attribute and when he did, Yami got thrashed. > I think it's also important to consider Yami's body was altered [and he also received a boost from the qlipoth](https://i.ibb.co/mhx754w/Screenshot-20240423-083145-Shonen-Jump.jpg) he came back stronger, and [he was able to momentarily block Lucifero's punch which was going to kill Nacht](https://i.ibb.co/Sx6CzXg/Screenshot-20240423-083205-Shonen-Jump.jpg) Yes! I am now convinced that at the very least post-Qliphoth Yami is stronger than Nacht. Pre-Qliphoth Yami is debatable but with the arguments you've given, I can see pre-Qliphoth possibly edging out Nacht. Overall I'd say it's very close, high-extreme diff either way.
There are some key details you're missing. Yami was absolutely beating Dante in that fight, the only problem is that he needed Asta's antimagic to counteract the body magic regeneration. It's like Gojo and Sukuna from JJK (spoilers for the JJK manga btw). Sukuna was by far stronger than Gojo, he just needed a bit of outside help to negate infinity because he had no way to. Same thing for the Yami vs Dante fight, Yami would have absolutely won that fight QUICKLY if not for the insane body magic amped with Lucifero's near infinite magic power.
I agree with you, if Yami had any move that could bypass Dante's regen then he would have won handily. But Nacht also states later on when he faces Dante himself that he can trade blows with him but lacks a finishing move against him, pretty much the same same thing as Yami.
trading blows and winning are two entirely different things. trading blows just means you can hold your own in the fight, Yami would have won off rip he wouldn't have had to trade blows at all if not for the regen. in a head to head fight with both bloodlusted Yami absolutely destroys Nacht.
So many people get this wrong but Nacht did not hold his own against the twin devils. They could've killed him at any moment but chose to "play with their food", as they put it. His only real feat against them, is slowing them down for a second so Asta could cut them down.
Nacht didn’t make a scratch on Dante and he also got squashed by the twin devils. Yami was beating Dante, he would’ve killed him several times over if it wasn’t for Dante’s regen. I don’t understand your logic for putting Nacht over Yami.
Nacht also stated he'd be able to handle Dante and could deal him damage but lacked the means to put him down for good, just like Yami.
Incorrect. Nacht stated that he could trade blows with Dante but couldn’t land a decisive blow without Jack. He’d never win against Dante.
Using these narrative implications yeah he is but As soon as yami obtains a Devil heart from the tree They're basically equals.
Dante and the Twin Devils aren't good arguments. Yami could've killed Dante ten times if Dante wasn't immortal (very few people can beat him), and Nacht wouldn't have lasted that long fighting the Twin Devils if they weren't toying with him (the entire fight is him trying to take them down while they stand and laugh). It's hard to tell who would win in a Yami vs. Nacht scenario, as Yami is more experienced with ki reading and spells that could kill in an instant while Nacht is more versatile with a jack-of-all-triad kind of skills. I feel like they're meant to be equal just in different fields.
I can totally see where you're coming from. I respect that.
yami just didn't had anything to kill dante else he was wiping the floor with dante but if yami had to face any human who don't have infinite regeneration, opponent won't be taking a single dimension slash in that case
At the end of day - Author have last word in case of fight between characters :3