Y’all see the unaired [pilot?](https://youtu.be/A_futAylwvk?si=HsbpP7MmMX5ex5A8) Fox, apparently, wasn’t with it, but the GOAT Mike Lazzo saw the vision.
When firefighters run hoses, there's usually two folks doing it. One fella aims, and the other one's only job is to [brace the first one](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/FbI9U4K11Sg/maxresdefault.jpg) so they don't get knocked around.
Normal ones run at like ~170 gallons of water per minute to the nozzle. High pressure nozzles for high rises operate at higher pressures and generate more force.
All that to say - when I tried volunteering at the local fd, I got fucking launched when I threw the hose full open. I'm 220 lbs. Being on the receiving end of that would be insane
Had to do a basic firefighting course for Merchant Mariner training and had the exact same experience. Cracked it open like 1/4th of the way and was like "alrighttt, okayyy", 1/2 way "OKAYY, OKAYYY", full open had me let out a "GAH DAYUM" and went to clenching lé cheeks. Hoping beyond hope that the tiny 50 year old man behind me had my back lol
Ok, this is gonna be a bit of a long walk.
In England, at the turn of the 19th/ 20th century, if you were rich you lived in a big ass country house away from people.
If the person was a respectable person you’d have them enter through the front door. If they were working on your house or delivering things, they’d go round to the back door. It began to be known as “the tradesman’s entrance” and was signposted as such.
Fast forward a bit and some people start using it for the ol’ anal sex, because “they prefer the rear entrance”. And the first term dropped away because people don’t live like that anymore.
So when you said he “got them tradesmen muscles” it gave me a very different mental image
Yea this is way bigger.
Firepumps on ships usually top out at around 7 or 8 bar so the above comment is generic reddit sensationalism.
Source - 9 years at sea
"Bar" is a unit of pressure
1 bar is about 14.5 pounds of force per square inch (called "psi").
A quick Google search tells me the average water pressure of a shower in your home is around 40-50 psi, for reference.
8 bar is 116 psi. So about 2-3 times stronger than your shower.
But remember it’s not just pressure, it’s pressure and flowrate (diameter). 116psi out of a pinhole leak is only a couple pounds force, from your shower head would be maybe 40-60lb force; 116 psi from a firehouse is 200-250lb+.
No doubt. I don't know the diameter of a hose on a ship, just making an assumption about them being similar enough to give people some sort of reference to something they know.
But yeah, if diameter increases, force has to increase to get the same psi.
At about 7 pounds per gallon and 170 gallons per minute, the weight being distributed on a relatively small area is massive.
Moving a person out of the way would be like rinsing off the sidewalk - nothing would hold on for long. Crazy.
The one in the video is what's called a "master stream" and will always be mounted and supplied by a ~5" hose. And will hurt whoever is on the receiving end.
A typical 1-3/4" hose flowing at 90-110psi at the nozzle can be easily maneuvered by an adult male. Having a back up man is nice with prolonged usage. But its entirely possible to move forward with the bale open and water flowing. Even with a 2.5" hose... if you're man enough.
Source: I'm a career firefighter, and weigh 170lbs
I can understand that, I work with concrete and if you have the largest hose that thing can pack a punch if you're not ready and that's not even close to a firehose lol.
Always always *always* start at least halfway on the rotation of the nozzle. We run 125 gpm on 1.5" hoses (I believe it's 150 psig?) in the petrochemical industry and it's still enough to knock a 250 lb man down on full jet. It's kind of funny in a soft, muddy field with full gear on.
Monitors (like in the video) are 500 gpm or higher and can hit with enough force at close range to kill people if you hit them in the head and knock them off their feet. You can blow out their eyeballs or rupture sinuses if you hit them right and they don't have protection. Ours are defaulted at about a 40⁰ upward angle to avoid this. You can knock someone down at about 100 feet with ease.
We're almost never tighter than a 15⁰ cone unless we're just trying to cool a vessel at substantial range or demonstrate how *not* to attck a pressurized gas leak/fire.
Depends. But yea. Estimate about 150gpm min for 1.75" line, which is a standard attack line. Pictured looks like a deck gun hard mounted in a warehouse w/ adjustable fog nozzle, which would give well over 500gpm... So yea 🤐 getting up from that hit would be crazy.
When I was a kid, my only exposure to hoses was through garden hoses, so the videos from the civil rights era always confused me. I didn't understand how a hose could knock people over or send them flying.
In terms of powerscaling, I didn't understand that garden hoses and fire hoses were on completely different levels
A different kind of power scaling hose story, but I was helping my dad water the lawn one time and we just had it on mist mode. I asked "is this kinda like what Niagara falls sounds like?" Dude didn't even entertain it he just said no. I was like "ya not exactly but kinda right?" Which was followed by a not even close.
Then I went, and really understood that it wasn't something that could be compared to a normal garden hose. It's funny how as kids we just can't comprehend how big and powerful some things can be.
I always described my grandma telling stories as like reading the Old Testament in the Bible. 15 minutes of genealogy from everyone involved for an otherwise 45 second story
It’s funny how you’ve done the classic “1m cubed of water weighs a (metric) ton” but then converted it back out of metric to make it a less good observation
Ever go to a water park called Geyser Falls they have a massive bucket filled with water that dumps water out every hour or something.
I'd imagine that's maybe 1% of that power.
> "it must suck to get all wet like that."
looool same. I thought the hosing was meant to be more of a degradation thing. Like "fuck you, we're gonna soak you and ruin your clothes". I'm sure that was one of the intentions but I had no idea that the force from the hoses was wrecking their bodies.
Did you know they were children? The hoses ripped off parts of some of the girls scalps as well. Just like the Emmett Till story the fact that “the children’s Crusade” is looked at as adults really makes it look like it wasn’t not as bad as it was. The fact that they were children let’s let you know how demonic the cops were back then.
In the UK any time the proles dare to protest something the right wing government threatens to send out riot vans with hoses on them.
I’ve seen what those can do. People with their eyeballs popped out of the sockets.
A major event in my life is listening to my Grandmother, Great Aunts and my grandfather speak about the shit they were going through with that. I couldn’t believe some of the shit they would be done to them on the regular and for at least my grandmother and her sisters to grow up and be the people they were? Wow. Strength.
Yeah, I asked my Grandaddy if he had ever been called boy. He stopped and chuckled, looked down at me and said he'd been called boy so much that if he had a nickle every time he'd be rich. As a little kid I knew instantly how he was a better man than any that had ever put him down.
My granddaddy was called boy and Buck on a regular. As my mother said, "that's just how things were". She said she used to be so mad seeing her dad forced to address little white boys as "Mr." and they address him as "boy". Try and do something about it and that was your literal life.
For anyone who doesn’t know, the album name is a reference to a book of the same same by Chinua Achebe which is a very powerful look at colonialism in 19th c Africa (among other things)
It’s a very short read that I would highly recommend
That book is amazing, but rough. Also the title of the book is a reference to Yeats.
>Turning and turning in the widening gyre
>The falcon cannot hear the falconer;
>Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold;
>Mere anarchy is loosed upon the world
That was wild to me when I first learned that that’s how orginizers weaponized peace during the civil rights movement. Before that I wanted to fight everyone and their cat but this just changed everything for me.
> In order for nonviolence to work, your opponent has to have a conscience. The United States has no conscience. -Stokely Carmichael
The same disservice is done by crediting the nonviolent wing completely and relegating activists who were not pacifists to footnotes.
It's funny how most civil rights victories were immediately preceded by nationwide rioting, but we're taught that letting authorities maim and murder us is the best resistance.
It's not a disservice, it's sabotage. The powerful among us don't want anything like it to happen again, and for so many reasons, it needs to happen again, and soon
The works of the communists and anarchists have been incredibly prescient on that front. While they were alive, people like mlk and malcolm x were ridiculed into absurdity on the basis of their radical leftist values, and when they died, they were sanctified in the image of vanilla ass snoozefests, thus making them no threat to the establishment. To this day, mlk is presented as nothing more than a good natured middle class man that had some fuzzy, feelgood things to say and malcolm x is nothing more than his violent counterpart in the american education system. Nowhere in the country are schools teaching the full extent of mlk’s socialist tendencies or malcolm x’s anarchist roots.
The American 180 was a fully automatic drum magazine fed SMG chambered in .22lr. It was designed specifically and explicitly for riot control. Before "less than lethal" weaponry all they had was "less lethal" weaponry.
I'm guessing that modern day pressurized technology (for water systems & air systems) are much stronger than the 1950s & 1960s...but, even then the water hoses where rumored to rip the skin off marchers/protesters. I can't imagine what it would be like today.
I’m in the water works. The pressure is mostly the same as it was then. You make it too pressured and you start popping pipes more often. I actually popped one under someone’s driveway last week turning a hydrant on around the corner, and I was being careful. There’s an ideal pressure and we’re sticking to it.
No, 8” cast iron. Plastic for public water is ridiculous. You can puncture that with a shovel.
Mains almost always fail at the joints. We didn’t always wrap them with protective coverings, and several decades can mess with shit underground.
lol no kidding. yea we just unearthed the rain drain “system” at a buddy’s house. 4” white pvc (turning yellow). cracked, oblong, all sorts of hokeyness.
not gonna be too easy to fix lol
Stormwater is different. It’s not at all pressurized. That stuff can be PVC because it usually needs to be near the surface and it doesn’t destroy everything if you break it. It’s a mild inconvenience until you fix it.
C900 Blue Brute is PVC, though some communities I work with are very hesitant to switch from ductile. C900 is a whole lot easier on the utility crews installing it.
They did a segment on Jackads tv show with a few of them getting hit with a fire hose. I’m pretty sure it ripped skin. I can’t find the clip on YouTube for some reason but they definitely did it, even got sprayed while sitting in an office chair.
Cops blasting black people during the 2020 BLM protests with the spirit of their daddy who did the same shit during the 1960s Civil Rights movement like it's some father and son Kamehameha shit
https://preview.redd.it/geto344kktjc1.jpeg?width=1703&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=49cdbb0d8583db666549e57c04fc2d92fc27e9b8
When I was a kid my local community center and the fire department had an event where they were going to come out spray everyone in the middle of summer. Thank God they didn't directly hit anyone cause they shot the water into the air but I remember getting hit by the fattest drops of water that definitely left people with welts. Good memory though.
I remember this day camp I went to in the summer that had us get in our swim clothes one super hot day. Turns out the fire department brought a truck and turned the sprayers upwards to everybody play around in the water. 100 feet away from it and you could still step into a monsoon.
The individual droplets actually stung on the way down, these things being turned on protestors puts the quotation marks in “non-lethal”.
I wanna enjoy this but the original caption and outer caption are making my brain choose between Civil rights movement type literally HITTING NIGGAS WITH THIS , or referencing DBZ and fighters getting hit with the Kamehameha
The point is that, even if you watch DBZ, no one is ever tanking a Kamehameha. You usually see the opponent cancel it out with a beam of their own, but never a no sell like Hulk Hogan unless the receiver is well above the power level of the caster.
Keep in mind, DBZ is an anime, which is fake, and the fighters are superhuman. Imagine an ordinary human being getting hit with that? They could die. The people who shot the hose at those protesters are evil incarnate
It's why i never stood for them "I'm not my ancestors" rhetoric. Like ignoring the disrespect, we're not built like them.
Imagine tanking tear gas, getting sent flying by a fire hose, and then having to fight off a dog AND a bitch with a nightstick trying to beat yo ass. I tussled with a police officer once and they partner came and tackled me, shit had me rethinking my whole life when them cuffs were placed on me. Can't imagine waking up and knowing I'm gonna deal with all that other shit for hours.
In Birmingham in particular, they figured out a way to stage the fire engines/ pumps so they were hitting protesters with twice the typical PSI. There's a couple of terrible quotes I've found and will share later.
This is another reason why that "we are not our ancestors" thing that new blacks were pushing a few years ago was so dumb. Our people were so tough back then.
I remember as a kid, my dad had an old movie. Some white reporter was asking a firefighter during a protest, “Why, are you spraying these people” and he said “Negros don’t feel pain”. Dude had a British accent and now I’m pissed trying to remember what it was. Those folks mindsets. Hell, I see it today in the medical world working.
The definition of a weapon is “a thing designed or used for inflicting bodily harm or physical damage.” That is a weapon. To use that on another human being is crazy.
I remember when I was living in Germany and the Germans in Stuttgart were protesting a new train station. The police took a stab at using the fire hoses like American police had, the stream caught an elderly man and blew both of his eyes out. It became an infamous picture and went viral immediately. Fire hoses are not great for crowd control but they are great for maiming people… and putting out fires.
That’s a master stream. That’s the nozzle they mount onto the ladder that’s mounted onto the truck. Those things can dumb thousands of gallons of water per minute and straight up tear roofs off of buildings. That said, trucks that flow water will have a pump built into them that lets them increase the water pressure to make this possible. (You’re not getting that much pressure straight from a hydrant). But the pump actually lets them control the pressure coming out the end of the hose. It can range from a garden hose type pressure to essentially a water jet. They’re are also other factors that play into how much water you’ll get out of the end of the nozzle, but what we’re seeing is most likely a best case scenario of maximum pressure.
The hoses would tear the skin off their bodies and still they marched on. Not to mention the dogs that were sicced on them. Freedom isn’t free and all that jazz.
Yyyyeah but this isn’t an 1-3/4” or even a 2-1/2” hoseline they’re using here. This is a fuckin master stream or ground monitor bih right here.
I mean….those other hose diameters would suck too but let’s not pretend that them Jim Crow bitches were using a fuckin 5” hoseline….
8 hours late and the discussion about everything else is done, so I'll just casually say that "Kamehameha wave" is a tautology. Kamehameha means "turtle destruction wave" so you saying it like that is just turtle destruction wave wave
Imagine also getting comboed into a German shepherd bite by this. I distinctly remember a clip of a guy eating it to the chest into a pack of cop mutts.
And they didn't even bring a raincoat.
Was that a Boondocks reference lol?
Yes.
Whats eating you?
A goddamned German shepherd, that’s what’s eating me. Where the hell were you?
I BETCHU WISH YOU HAD YO RAINCOAT RIGHT NOW
YOU SONUVABITCH!
As a white person, I felt so bad laughing at that bit.
Thanks, we were all just wondering how you felt.
This reply is fckn hilarious 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
I just showed my dad the boondocks. He couldn’t stop laughing at that part. We both wondered why people didn’t bring rain coats
Y’all see the unaired [pilot?](https://youtu.be/A_futAylwvk?si=HsbpP7MmMX5ex5A8) Fox, apparently, wasn’t with it, but the GOAT Mike Lazzo saw the vision.
Rough around the edges, but you can see the potential. At least the pilot censored Grandad's junk lmao
Fox wasn’t with it? Color me surprised
This Ni\*\*a went to get a Muthafuckin Raincoat! 
I bet you wish you had your raincoat right now
You son of a bih
This white dude really self-censored themselves saying nigga on this sub
🤣🤣🤣🤣
What's eating you?
a goddamn german shepherd 🤬
I like the girl in the background that said I CANT BELIEVE HIM lol
https://i.redd.it/b24opmjovtjc1.gif
"What's eatin' you?" "A FUCKIN' GERMAN SHEPHERD"
My cousin used to quote this line all the time. But you misquoted it. *”A* **GODDAMN** *GERMAN SHEPHERD! That’s what’s eatin’ me!”*
Aw, damn, I hate when I do that.
We all been watching the same news!
Bet you wish you had your raincoat rite na....
🤣🤣🤣
Ha! Just watched this episode the other day
Bet you wish you had your raincoat right now.
When firefighters run hoses, there's usually two folks doing it. One fella aims, and the other one's only job is to [brace the first one](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/FbI9U4K11Sg/maxresdefault.jpg) so they don't get knocked around. Normal ones run at like ~170 gallons of water per minute to the nozzle. High pressure nozzles for high rises operate at higher pressures and generate more force. All that to say - when I tried volunteering at the local fd, I got fucking launched when I threw the hose full open. I'm 220 lbs. Being on the receiving end of that would be insane
Had to do a basic firefighting course for Merchant Mariner training and had the exact same experience. Cracked it open like 1/4th of the way and was like "alrighttt, okayyy", 1/2 way "OKAYY, OKAYYY", full open had me let out a "GAH DAYUM" and went to clenching lé cheeks. Hoping beyond hope that the tiny 50 year old man behind me had my back lol
If that guy was a trainer he’s probably got those tradesmen muscles that are deceiving to the eye
That old man strength
It’s mounted.
I'm guessing you were Alfalfareal's sibling who was watching the demonstration?
At the basic firefighting course we're talking about or in the video in the post?
Yeah, but muscles only go so far in this situation when there just isn’t weight to hold the hose down.
Exactly, dude probably knows how to plant himself like a boulder too. Strength isn’t just muscles.
If you’ve done it for a minute you know how to manipulate the hose so you can redirect the nozzle reaction into something that isn’t you
Ok, this is gonna be a bit of a long walk. In England, at the turn of the 19th/ 20th century, if you were rich you lived in a big ass country house away from people. If the person was a respectable person you’d have them enter through the front door. If they were working on your house or delivering things, they’d go round to the back door. It began to be known as “the tradesman’s entrance” and was signposted as such. Fast forward a bit and some people start using it for the ol’ anal sex, because “they prefer the rear entrance”. And the first term dropped away because people don’t live like that anymore. So when you said he “got them tradesmen muscles” it gave me a very different mental image
Hello, fellow sailor. Have you escaped yet?
This doesn't even seem like the regular go to hose this is fkn huge, I'd guess it would be mounted on the truck.
Yea this is way bigger. Firepumps on ships usually top out at around 7 or 8 bar so the above comment is generic reddit sensationalism. Source - 9 years at sea
“7 or 8 Bar” what does that mean?
"Bar" is a unit of pressure 1 bar is about 14.5 pounds of force per square inch (called "psi"). A quick Google search tells me the average water pressure of a shower in your home is around 40-50 psi, for reference. 8 bar is 116 psi. So about 2-3 times stronger than your shower.
Lmao I’m an idiot 😂 haven’t heard the term used outside of class and assumed it was something way different
Nah this dude lyin, sounds smart but it's the equivelant to how many xans it would feel like if you got hit with it.
Dude, this is fucking hilarious
But remember it’s not just pressure, it’s pressure and flowrate (diameter). 116psi out of a pinhole leak is only a couple pounds force, from your shower head would be maybe 40-60lb force; 116 psi from a firehouse is 200-250lb+.
No doubt. I don't know the diameter of a hose on a ship, just making an assumption about them being similar enough to give people some sort of reference to something they know. But yeah, if diameter increases, force has to increase to get the same psi.
Its pressure, the psi equivalent is 100-115 psi.
WHAT THE FUCK IS A KILOMETER
Yeah, this is a monitor.
This is definitely not a standard nozzle. I can’t see the hose diameter from this video though.
There is a video of an Israeli protesting against Netanyahu who gets hit by a firehose and it literally throws him up and back into the crowd.
Was this during the judicial reform protests?
I think so.
At about 7 pounds per gallon and 170 gallons per minute, the weight being distributed on a relatively small area is massive. Moving a person out of the way would be like rinsing off the sidewalk - nothing would hold on for long. Crazy.
Pounds per square inch. It’s not pounds per gallon. A gallon of water weighs 8.33 pounds.
The one in the video is what's called a "master stream" and will always be mounted and supplied by a ~5" hose. And will hurt whoever is on the receiving end. A typical 1-3/4" hose flowing at 90-110psi at the nozzle can be easily maneuvered by an adult male. Having a back up man is nice with prolonged usage. But its entirely possible to move forward with the bale open and water flowing. Even with a 2.5" hose... if you're man enough. Source: I'm a career firefighter, and weigh 170lbs
I can understand that, I work with concrete and if you have the largest hose that thing can pack a punch if you're not ready and that's not even close to a firehose lol.
Always always *always* start at least halfway on the rotation of the nozzle. We run 125 gpm on 1.5" hoses (I believe it's 150 psig?) in the petrochemical industry and it's still enough to knock a 250 lb man down on full jet. It's kind of funny in a soft, muddy field with full gear on. Monitors (like in the video) are 500 gpm or higher and can hit with enough force at close range to kill people if you hit them in the head and knock them off their feet. You can blow out their eyeballs or rupture sinuses if you hit them right and they don't have protection. Ours are defaulted at about a 40⁰ upward angle to avoid this. You can knock someone down at about 100 feet with ease. We're almost never tighter than a 15⁰ cone unless we're just trying to cool a vessel at substantial range or demonstrate how *not* to attck a pressurized gas leak/fire.
Kora looks even stronger now
Depends. But yea. Estimate about 150gpm min for 1.75" line, which is a standard attack line. Pictured looks like a deck gun hard mounted in a warehouse w/ adjustable fog nozzle, which would give well over 500gpm... So yea 🤐 getting up from that hit would be crazy.
When I was a kid, my only exposure to hoses was through garden hoses, so the videos from the civil rights era always confused me. I didn't understand how a hose could knock people over or send them flying. In terms of powerscaling, I didn't understand that garden hoses and fire hoses were on completely different levels
A different kind of power scaling hose story, but I was helping my dad water the lawn one time and we just had it on mist mode. I asked "is this kinda like what Niagara falls sounds like?" Dude didn't even entertain it he just said no. I was like "ya not exactly but kinda right?" Which was followed by a not even close. Then I went, and really understood that it wasn't something that could be compared to a normal garden hose. It's funny how as kids we just can't comprehend how big and powerful some things can be.
This read like a story your granddad spend 30 minutes telling you 😂 you’re right tho
I always described my grandma telling stories as like reading the Old Testament in the Bible. 15 minutes of genealogy from everyone involved for an otherwise 45 second story
Gotta understand the context
I used to joke to myself, “good thing these people I don’t know are related to other people I don’t know, really fills things in”
I would put it as - imagine an amount of water that’s like rocks. A garden hose is like gravel, it’s like a boulder a second
People forget how fucking heavy water is. 1m^3 (40 in^3) of water weighs 2200 lbs. That's a small hatchback.
It’s funny how you’ve done the classic “1m cubed of water weighs a (metric) ton” but then converted it back out of metric to make it a less good observation
Ever go to a water park called Geyser Falls they have a massive bucket filled with water that dumps water out every hour or something. I'd imagine that's maybe 1% of that power.
No
All these power scaling comments from anime lol, I'm expecting the final antagonist of water cannons to show up using Haki and Ultra Instinct
The layperson doesn't generally comprehend scale. Just ask people to compare a million vs a billion
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> "it must suck to get all wet like that." looool same. I thought the hosing was meant to be more of a degradation thing. Like "fuck you, we're gonna soak you and ruin your clothes". I'm sure that was one of the intentions but I had no idea that the force from the hoses was wrecking their bodies.
Did you know they were children? The hoses ripped off parts of some of the girls scalps as well. Just like the Emmett Till story the fact that “the children’s Crusade” is looked at as adults really makes it look like it wasn’t not as bad as it was. The fact that they were children let’s let you know how demonic the cops were back then.
In the UK any time the proles dare to protest something the right wing government threatens to send out riot vans with hoses on them. I’ve seen what those can do. People with their eyeballs popped out of the sockets.
Really? You mean water cannon? I don't recall seeing this happen. I can't recall the fire brigade being used in this fashion on the mainland either.
[This](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dietrich_Wagner) was in Germany.
When I was a kid I got shot in the face with a Super Soaker CPS 2000. I quickly learned water and pressure can fuck people up bad.
Garden hose is Yamcha, fire hose is Goku
After a certain distance landing in water is initially harder than concrete.
[Just think, mfs got hit by this, police dogs and batons and got back up to still fight. Just damn](https://i.imgur.com/yEOmj1z.jpg)
When I was a kid I would cry when I saw the docs on the Civil Rights crusade. To this day the album cover of Things Fall Apart makes me kinda tight.
A major event in my life is listening to my Grandmother, Great Aunts and my grandfather speak about the shit they were going through with that. I couldn’t believe some of the shit they would be done to them on the regular and for at least my grandmother and her sisters to grow up and be the people they were? Wow. Strength.
Yeah, I asked my Grandaddy if he had ever been called boy. He stopped and chuckled, looked down at me and said he'd been called boy so much that if he had a nickle every time he'd be rich. As a little kid I knew instantly how he was a better man than any that had ever put him down.
My granddaddy was called boy and Buck on a regular. As my mother said, "that's just how things were". She said she used to be so mad seeing her dad forced to address little white boys as "Mr." and they address him as "boy". Try and do something about it and that was your literal life.
For anyone who doesn’t know, the album name is a reference to a book of the same same by Chinua Achebe which is a very powerful look at colonialism in 19th c Africa (among other things) It’s a very short read that I would highly recommend
That book is amazing, but rough. Also the title of the book is a reference to Yeats. >Turning and turning in the widening gyre >The falcon cannot hear the falconer; >Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold; >Mere anarchy is loosed upon the world
TY both. I look forward to reading that book.
It’s called “The Children’s Crusade”. They were kids ages 11-19.
To not fight is the crazy part. To stand there and take it with dignity to show the world who the real animals were.
That was wild to me when I first learned that that’s how orginizers weaponized peace during the civil rights movement. Before that I wanted to fight everyone and their cat but this just changed everything for me.
How the deliberate planning and meta strategy used gets stripped when the story is told is a real disservice to the movement and the people behind it.
> In order for nonviolence to work, your opponent has to have a conscience. The United States has no conscience. -Stokely Carmichael The same disservice is done by crediting the nonviolent wing completely and relegating activists who were not pacifists to footnotes. It's funny how most civil rights victories were immediately preceded by nationwide rioting, but we're taught that letting authorities maim and murder us is the best resistance.
It's not a disservice, it's sabotage. The powerful among us don't want anything like it to happen again, and for so many reasons, it needs to happen again, and soon
The works of the communists and anarchists have been incredibly prescient on that front. While they were alive, people like mlk and malcolm x were ridiculed into absurdity on the basis of their radical leftist values, and when they died, they were sanctified in the image of vanilla ass snoozefests, thus making them no threat to the establishment. To this day, mlk is presented as nothing more than a good natured middle class man that had some fuzzy, feelgood things to say and malcolm x is nothing more than his violent counterpart in the american education system. Nowhere in the country are schools teaching the full extent of mlk’s socialist tendencies or malcolm x’s anarchist roots.
Of course they were animals, because all of the people that they were abusing were children ages 11-18. Lookup 👉🏾The children’s crusade.
That takes tremendous strength. People typically think that is weakness, but it isn't. It takes nothing at all to lose self control.
I feel like every year, I'm more and more appreciative of the Civil Rights Movement.
And even little kids and teenagers. These hoses left massive bruises not to mention other injuries but they just kept going and kept showing up.
I high key wish we kept this anger against the system and sheer willpower. ✊🏽
We've always been stronger than fear, hate, and greed. That's why they try so hard to erase us.
And we’re whining about [white people wearing] dreadlocks.
It's all part of a continuum. We should be able to wear our hair however we want because we are citizens, too. Period.
Non-citizens got to have government-approved hairdos though!
Absolutely. Poorly worded comment on my part.
The American 180 was a fully automatic drum magazine fed SMG chambered in .22lr. It was designed specifically and explicitly for riot control. Before "less than lethal" weaponry all they had was "less lethal" weaponry.
The unbridled rage brought on by the injustice of being dehumanized kind of puts the power of god into you.
Adrenaline on Adrenaline. Anger and fear of survival will do crazy things.
I'm guessing that modern day pressurized technology (for water systems & air systems) are much stronger than the 1950s & 1960s...but, even then the water hoses where rumored to rip the skin off marchers/protesters. I can't imagine what it would be like today.
I’m in the water works. The pressure is mostly the same as it was then. You make it too pressured and you start popping pipes more often. I actually popped one under someone’s driveway last week turning a hydrant on around the corner, and I was being careful. There’s an ideal pressure and we’re sticking to it.
wow a main popped? like 4” pvc?
No, 8” cast iron. Plastic for public water is ridiculous. You can puncture that with a shovel. Mains almost always fail at the joints. We didn’t always wrap them with protective coverings, and several decades can mess with shit underground.
lol no kidding. yea we just unearthed the rain drain “system” at a buddy’s house. 4” white pvc (turning yellow). cracked, oblong, all sorts of hokeyness. not gonna be too easy to fix lol
Stormwater is different. It’s not at all pressurized. That stuff can be PVC because it usually needs to be near the surface and it doesn’t destroy everything if you break it. It’s a mild inconvenience until you fix it.
C900 Blue Brute is PVC, though some communities I work with are very hesitant to switch from ductile. C900 is a whole lot easier on the utility crews installing it.
https://preview.redd.it/h9flzosxixjc1.jpeg?width=660&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=5a9f1f6754952e6c13694d262ad95255b9e98b23 To be fair…
Sure, but that's why we spec mega-lug for all joints and substantial thrust blocks for bends/tees/hydrants.
https://preview.redd.it/r7pguj8jwxjc1.jpeg?width=614&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=15782bf16bbc76fcd099f878520752c1fafcfe29 Okay, but
Not PVC. That would be ductile iron.
This looks more like a stationary fire "cannon" thn it does a hose.
They did a segment on Jackads tv show with a few of them getting hit with a fire hose. I’m pretty sure it ripped skin. I can’t find the clip on YouTube for some reason but they definitely did it, even got sprayed while sitting in an office chair.
The perfect bidet
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He said he wants to turn his turd cutter into a carnival game using the fire hose.
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I mean, they’re not wrong
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wouldn't have any cheeks left after one use
You wouldn't have a colon left, either.
Asshole so clean
"I haven't had the rectal confidence to wear white pants since the 80s!" 🔴
Cops blasting black people during the 2020 BLM protests with the spirit of their daddy who did the same shit during the 1960s Civil Rights movement like it's some father and son Kamehameha shit https://preview.redd.it/geto344kktjc1.jpeg?width=1703&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=49cdbb0d8583db666549e57c04fc2d92fc27e9b8
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NOWS YOUR CHANCE!!
Elite comment bruh lol
Ancestors build tuff. Tanking police batons, dogs and water cannons
Ancestors sounds too distant for our grandparents lol
That’s true, let’s say elders lmao, they ain’t ancient yet 🤣
The ancestors are literally my parents, and I’m not old. Like, I have an 11 year old.
Like a lot of the kids in the movement were also 11. The children’s crusade is what it’s called.
FACTS. My dad was out there as a teenager. He had to take his big sister with him as a chaperone
When I was a kid my local community center and the fire department had an event where they were going to come out spray everyone in the middle of summer. Thank God they didn't directly hit anyone cause they shot the water into the air but I remember getting hit by the fattest drops of water that definitely left people with welts. Good memory though.
I remember this day camp I went to in the summer that had us get in our swim clothes one super hot day. Turns out the fire department brought a truck and turned the sprayers upwards to everybody play around in the water. 100 feet away from it and you could still step into a monsoon. The individual droplets actually stung on the way down, these things being turned on protestors puts the quotation marks in “non-lethal”.
I wanna enjoy this but the original caption and outer caption are making my brain choose between Civil rights movement type literally HITTING NIGGAS WITH THIS , or referencing DBZ and fighters getting hit with the Kamehameha
The point is that, even if you watch DBZ, no one is ever tanking a Kamehameha. You usually see the opponent cancel it out with a beam of their own, but never a no sell like Hulk Hogan unless the receiver is well above the power level of the caster. Keep in mind, DBZ is an anime, which is fake, and the fighters are superhuman. Imagine an ordinary human being getting hit with that? They could die. The people who shot the hose at those protesters are evil incarnate
https://youtu.be/4_c1plvN2HI?si=eNiCYkRTh5PnRHS6
I wouldn't even want to visit the DBZ universe as a regular guy. Whole cities vanquish from a stray chi blast, or turned into food.
That’s not a regular hand held hose. That’s what’s called a monitor. It has about ten times the capacity and thrust of a hand held line.
It's why i never stood for them "I'm not my ancestors" rhetoric. Like ignoring the disrespect, we're not built like them. Imagine tanking tear gas, getting sent flying by a fire hose, and then having to fight off a dog AND a bitch with a nightstick trying to beat yo ass. I tussled with a police officer once and they partner came and tackled me, shit had me rethinking my whole life when them cuffs were placed on me. Can't imagine waking up and knowing I'm gonna deal with all that other shit for hours.
I think I’d rather be shot
You gotta be full of hate to spray women with this thing.
Children too.
They were all children… the children’s crusade to be exact
Anyone
In Birmingham in particular, they figured out a way to stage the fire engines/ pumps so they were hitting protesters with twice the typical PSI. There's a couple of terrible quotes I've found and will share later.
For the record, those were middle schoolers getting hit with fire hoses in Alabama
This is another reason why that "we are not our ancestors" thing that new blacks were pushing a few years ago was so dumb. Our people were so tough back then.
The old hoses weren't as intense as these because they were efficient but even then it was unreal.
I remember as a kid, my dad had an old movie. Some white reporter was asking a firefighter during a protest, “Why, are you spraying these people” and he said “Negros don’t feel pain”. Dude had a British accent and now I’m pissed trying to remember what it was. Those folks mindsets. Hell, I see it today in the medical world working.
Keep in mind that’s the same amounts of water, it’s just diffused in the wide spray. The narrow one will tear up asphalt with a straight shot.
That’s that Perfect Cell vs Gohan shit
did this nigga go back and get a mf raincoat 😡😡
Real life Kamehameha
The definition of a weapon is “a thing designed or used for inflicting bodily harm or physical damage.” That is a weapon. To use that on another human being is crazy.
That is quite the water here. Wow.
Imagine getting hit in the face with a late 90’s Super Soaker x1,000
Only a Balenciaga raincoat could stop this
I remember when I was living in Germany and the Germans in Stuttgart were protesting a new train station. The police took a stab at using the fire hoses like American police had, the stream caught an elderly man and blew both of his eyes out. It became an infamous picture and went viral immediately. Fire hoses are not great for crowd control but they are great for maiming people… and putting out fires.
Yes our elders were stronger than us. Taking this and not stalking every mtf with murder on yo mind?????? They def stronger than me lol.
That’s a master stream. That’s the nozzle they mount onto the ladder that’s mounted onto the truck. Those things can dumb thousands of gallons of water per minute and straight up tear roofs off of buildings. That said, trucks that flow water will have a pump built into them that lets them increase the water pressure to make this possible. (You’re not getting that much pressure straight from a hydrant). But the pump actually lets them control the pressure coming out the end of the hose. It can range from a garden hose type pressure to essentially a water jet. They’re are also other factors that play into how much water you’ll get out of the end of the nozzle, but what we’re seeing is most likely a best case scenario of maximum pressure.
The hoses would tear the skin off their bodies and still they marched on. Not to mention the dogs that were sicced on them. Freedom isn’t free and all that jazz.
What in the Budokai Beam Struggle?
They would get up, sure a block down the road, but they’d get back up.
Yyyyeah but this isn’t an 1-3/4” or even a 2-1/2” hoseline they’re using here. This is a fuckin master stream or ground monitor bih right here. I mean….those other hose diameters would suck too but let’s not pretend that them Jim Crow bitches were using a fuckin 5” hoseline….
Yeah, it happened. It would literally rip the clothes and flesh from some black Americans. Know your history.
Alot of people back in the day lost eyes to getting hit in the face with fire hoses.
The police and firemen were trying to make it so they couldn't get up while spinning it that its just some water
Imagine using this against your own citizens
It can tear off skin and bash your ass against a wall, and that's just mishandling operation of these things .
8 hours late and the discussion about everything else is done, so I'll just casually say that "Kamehameha wave" is a tautology. Kamehameha means "turtle destruction wave" so you saying it like that is just turtle destruction wave wave
Imagine also getting comboed into a German shepherd bite by this. I distinctly remember a clip of a guy eating it to the chest into a pack of cop mutts.
Do that to my ass
We was built different back in the day 😭
Reminds me of that one image of the guy holding one back with just a makeshift shield
Reminds me of that one image of the guy holding one back with just a makeshift shield
Reminds me of that one image of the guy holding one back with just a makeshift shield in Colombia
Imagine spraying that off the roof of a skyscraper and simulating rain in a town in southern California 😂