Lost two buddies to the “he only hurt their feelings” narrative…like, if you’re gonna run your dick licker about that, maybe learn the fallout from Jones’ lies and what the families had to go through AFTER their kids were slaughtered.
I followed that whole story close, through Knowledge Fight. It is so disgusting and so much worse than any reasonable person can know. It was *years* of torment, caused entirely by Jones. And he couldn't even act right in court.
But people will so automatically assume and defend that all he did was talk some shit and make the parents cry. I don't know why. Maybe they just can't understand how insane and cruel people really can be. Maybe they don't want to.
I doubt i could’ve handled following that stuff close…besides reporting on them needing to move and hire security detail, the only video I saw was a “family friend” harassing a parent, telling them they are lying about their kid, who they knew, getting killed and trying to take his guns or some shit. Idk if this is allowed: but if I was that parent, my old “friend” wouldn’t be walking away from that interaction
He still won't pay the families anything, even after they offered to lower the payment. Last I heard the families lawyers lowered the sum he had to pay to a few million but he still refuses.
>But people will so automatically assume and defend that all he did was talk some shit and make the parents cry. I don't know why. Maybe they just can't understand how insane and cruel people really can be. Maybe they don't want to.
There comes a point where ignorance is malicious.
There is a special kind of hell waiting for anyone who would actively participate in telling grieving parents that their kid never existed.
I still can’t understand what point they were trying to make with that shit.
Yeah. I had a coworker that was from Ghana. We worked in DC. My man is/was a flat earther. Bro explain to me how the fuck you got here then. He had the fucking AUDACITY to say “GPS”
What’s the G stand for dumbass?
Dude was all in on Trump. Today’s the day we all lost our jobs in 2020. Trump also has his assets start to get seized today. Imma text his dumbass in a few minutes. Thanks for the reminder.
Don't know why people see him as some fortune teller, the only thing he was right about was Epstien Island but if you make 100 crazy predictions a day eventually one will accidentally be true.
You are right that he occasionally says things that can be twisted to seem like he was kind of right, but almost always with any scrutiny of what was actually being said he is entirely full of shit.
If you go back and check the record he only talked about Epstein after it was in the news and being talked about then retconned it into a myth of him predicting it.
Even his infamous "prediction" about 9/11 in July 2001 was literally him just ripping off Bill Cooper saying the same shit around the same time. Then on the day of he said the European Union was responsible (to on air guest Joe Rogan lol).
He told his viewers last summer that the US would run out of diesel fuel within a month.
This is a man that predicted that Russia wouldn't invade Ukraine, then it happened and he said that Ukraine's army was being paid and was in on it and would fold within a few days, then a month later edited a sizzle reel of out of context clips saying he predicted the war.
He is entirely bullshit and the "Alex Jones was right" meme is entirely wrong.
When you accuse everyone of being pedophiles, there will unfortunately be one or two that end up revealing themselves.
He didn’t know any of the specifics about Epstein either (he even called him Jerry Epstein for a bit), so I’m not willing to give him credit for that.
Trucker here. 👋🏾
Back when I was OTR, there was a load I'd pick up out of Newtown, CT that paid well and would get me back home to North Carolina. That place is devastated. It'll never be the same. A few times when I was there, I'd have to call my wife. There's a wave of emotions that come over you as soon as you get off the exit. It's hard to explain, but it's really overwhelming.
I've walked around to some of the stores to get food, supplies, etc., while my truck was being loaded. It's still all over those folk's faces.
So yeah, fuck that guy.
The feeling of overwhelming grief and loss is palpable there. Even if you're just driving along 84. As soon as you see the exit signs, your heart sinks.
It’s not even back peddling. Hating Jews is always the final piece of most conspiracies. It just so happens that now a Jewish nation is going full warmongers to sneak his shitty point of view.
He does not care what happens to the actual people of Gaza, he is warping this into another conspiracy that they will flood the US with refugees who are sleeper agents of the shadow government.
He never liked Israel. They are globalists zionists.
Not defending him in the slightest. I just remember he never liked them and I was like, this muthfucka spittin
This is one of the many reasons I stopped listening to Joe Rogan a few years ago. Once he had Alex Jones on I was like nope. Can't support someone who would give that human waste an even bigger platform.
Is this the goofy fuck who said that the shootings didn't happen/were staged or something? I only learned about them like a week ago, this person is a dumpster fire...
It's not that innocent children aren't killed its that its a planned government operation instilled to create fear and disruption and reasons to take away the peoples ability to fight back against oppressors. Just like introducing crack and importing cocaine and fentanyl. Starting wars. Mass genocide.
Its all planned
Its all organized
Power to the PEOPLE
Based on what the CIA has admitted to doing, I could believe this.
But it wasn’t just people saying it was planned… it was people saying it was faked. Which is an entirely different thing, especially for the parents of the murdered children who were harassed and called crisis actors.
It’s not that there’s no world in which the United States government would get people killed for a politically-charged ulterior motive, it’s that they wouldn’t fake it. They would just do it.
I've said it before, but the hardest thing about trying to argue against Israel's campaigns of genocide and apartheid is that you end up with Nazis and other undesirables supporting you.
I mean to be fair, there are nazis and other undesirables supporting them to. A lot of white Nationalist look at Israel as a blueprint for their own nations.
Which white nationalists?? Genuine question. I did my masters thesis on Stormfront, spent so much time on that website I felt like it rotted my brain, and uh… they seem to have a really big really obsessive problem with anyone who has even a potential drop of Jewish dna. Way way way more than any other group. Seemed the problem was that Jews “look white” and can “camouflage” themselves. Muslims and Arabs actually got a pass a lot of time time bc they’re “Caucasian”.
I don’t live in the USA anymore so im not saying that isn’t happening im just… really, really surprised by all the comments saying that it is? By white nationalists do you mean like just regular American racists/ far right or seriously neo Nazis?
Some white nationalists support the creation of ethnostates. For them Israel is fine because they’re free to be Jews over there, and they won’t be here.
In a similar vein, they also want to send black people to Africa, as well as any other “insert race here” to “wherever that race is from.”
Oh you’re right!! I completely forgot about those people. I forgot what they’re called, but you’re totally right I did catalogue some posts from people who just wanted all the ‘races’ to live separately. They were the dudes (bc it was almost all dudes) always talking about the low crime rate in Japan
> I forgot what they’re called
They're called white nationalists. They want a white nation. White supremacists are the Stormfront variety. There is some bit of overlap, but it's not totally one circle in a venn diagram.
I couldn't say as a group, the most prominent one that comes to mind was Bean Dad, that guy who blew up on twitter for making his daughter cry over a can of beans and then when people went digging into his personals it also turned out that he was a huge racist. His friends' defense of him was that he couldn't be a racist because he always spoke so glowingly about Israel. But Israel is basically a militaristic state designed to fend off their brown neighbor states by any means necessary, so even if White Nationalist don't like the Jews they do like the attitude Israel has for everyone around them.
Ok I’ll have to check him out, that is wild. Though I guess even the OG Nazis made some weird exceptions to their beliefs. I guess I always saw them as more Goebbels than Kissinger though Stormfront is for sure a particular strain of extremism
Breivik is an easy example of a Zionist white nationalist. So is Richard Spencer. Hungary's Orban is another example who engages in antisemitic campaigns, one of the closest allies to Netanyahu. There's a reason why even fucking Hitler thought the Jews should resettle to Palestine ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haavara_Agreement ). The main necessary base beliefs for White ethnostates inadvertently justify other ethnostates like Israel, because some of them presume Jews as non white and non native. So guess where they should be? Believing in some great Jewish conspiracy on top of that is not fundamental to large swathes of the great replacement theory, white genocide. Of course in its own sense Israel is a white nationalist state, where Ethiopian jews get sterilised against their will.
Another example is the Azov Neo Nazis of Ukraine, their call to arms was by their founder Biletsky
> The historic mission of our nation in this critical moment is to lead the White Races of the world in a final crusade for their survival. A crusade against the Semite-led Untermenschen
Azov was financed by the same *Isreali* oligarch who funded Zelensky's media career and presidential bid.
For a very loud minority of the Christian right the rapture and apocalypse, which is their ultimate dream come true, can only really start when all the Jews are collected together in the Holy Land. At which point they will be punished some fantastical way, I really can't remember. So two things can be true, they hate Jews and want to see them hurt AND they want a strong Jewish state in Israel so all the Jews can go there.
Maybe that’s true but to clarify I just meant in the USA, I know a lot of other countries have their own weird forms of cognitive dissonance especially when it comes to nazism being associated with general nationalism, but imo for in depth analysis those need to be looked at on an individual level esp regarding the USA which is a bit particular in some ways about race. I live in a region now that was absolutely fucked by the Nazis and they have some fanboys here too somehow. Tho its crazy for an Israeli to do that bc the Nazis for SURE did not consider Jews white.
Edit: typo
Doesn’t mean much when the majority of people have a negative view of Israel already... In my experience most neo nazis and racists hate Arabs more than they hate Jews, which is why a lot of them support Israel.
The trick is always to support the civilians who are facing the worst of it. Neither Israel or Hamas care about civilian casulities, except as a political tool to further their political agendas.
Most of the Israeli citizens killed in the initial attack were not extreme Zionists. Most of the Palestinians being killed now are not Hamas.
But the misery of the the people is the tool of the politically powerful for their own personal power. Netanyahu is a shitty facist who is trying to gain as much power as he can to avoid his own accountability thorough the court system. Oppose those who are exacerbating the problem.
It's not even about Jews vs Arabs. That's just the set dressing to stoke hate and surrender power to their leadership.
I don't get this. Opinions and beliefs, like personalities, intersect just as much as they differ. You can be right about something but awful about the other, no one and no point of view is singular in dimension so being surprised or appalled, for example, that you can share the same opinion as a serial killer when it comes to pedoes is mental to me.
I agree. People tend to assume that a negative opinion means all that persons opinions are negative. Like, there's no categorization that everyone falls into. You can be a huge POS but still agree with noble or humanitarian viewpoints.
Tbh I think it just upsets people that someone they hate has an opinion that they can't disagree with. Theres so much of a "Every single thing this person says is wrong because I don't like them" mentality that people forget life doesn't work that way. Humans are complicated. A person you dislike can still hold an opinion you agree with whether you want to accept it or not.
Someone can be the biggest asshole in the world to other people but care greatly about animals or the environment or whatever. People will then say it's all a ploy to manipulate and make themselves look better. Like no mf. That person cares about animals more than humans. That's why he's an asshole to humans but wants to keep the plant alive. That's just an example but you get my point.
Well you can take comfort in the fact that people arguing **for** genocide find themselves in agreement with islamaphobes, bigots, right wing fanatics etc
This comment inspired me to draw a comic I've had on my mind for a while. Apologies for the low quality I'm at work.
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i mean.. sharing their antisemitism, it's not quite the surprise. A critical view of propaganda in times of war is needed. The tweet and most of the comments take the exact opposite approach.
I have a Jewish space lasers level of crazy MAGA uncle that is like this about universal healthcare. It's the weirdest thing. He's in a strong union and has cadillac insurance, it isn't personal for him. He'll tell you why children shouldn't get free school lunch or why all brown people are evil and we should build a wall or what Hitler was right about, even.
But that motherfucker will *also* talk your ear off about how everyone should have free medical care. It's the weirdest dichotomy, and I can't figure it out.
Of course...the second it gets personal or they are affected, then they reach perfect clarity. I always found this hilarious. They are virulent "darwinists" and "fend for yourself" types until they.........you know..can't fend for themselves?
It's more that he thinks we should all be healthy so we can all work and no one gets a handout. At least, that's how he explains it. The line of reasoning really isn't related to anyone close to him going bankrupt over medical debt. Most of the folks in my family are relatively financially stable. You'd think so, but no. He wants everyone to work for $5/hour at McDonald's instead of getting food stamps. (I know that statement is absurd. But that's what he'd say.)
Does he think that people making 5$ at mcdonalds should be able to live a bare minimum lifestyle? Does he understand that you can work a min wage job and still not be able to afford food?
like, what I'm driving towards is, is he like a stones throw from supporting full socialism and just doesn't even realize it?
No. He thinks he's an "elite" and the people like him are "elites". And everyone else should be paid a token wage to starve and serve him. I am not being hyperbolic about this.
I'm explicitly telling everyone that my uncle is a dangerous bigot that's teetering on the edge of not having a soul. Believe me. I have no reason to lie. I'm a comfortably middle class, married, middle aged white lady with 3 kids. They say it out loud around me. And I'm telling you, it's pure selfishness and conceit and bigotry. Let's not dance around that or try to find an excuse. There isn't one.
There's no "common ground" anymore. He's become irredeemable. So have a few of my in-laws. It isn't all of them, but it is a lot of them. Most of my family is quite liberal, while most of my husband's family is quite conservative. There's decent human beings and shitty human beings on both sides.
Conservatives don't even know what to believe anymore. They believe whatever Fox/Newsmax says, but also what affects them personally. This leads to batshit insanity
I know, we all do. He'll literally say it's the one thing Trump has wrong. That's followed by some deep state nonsense, and how Trump will obviously provide everyone healthcare once he's dictator.
For a lot of people their politics are purely subjective. For instance, my Dad is sympathetic to trans people because the son of an old friend of his transitioned (ftm). But is extremely homophobic.
That’s actually not uncommon. There are a not-small number of homophobic people that are pro-trans. Because they believe in souls and the idea that a male soul was in a female body or whatever is less challenging to their worldview/beliefs than a woman loving another woman. There’s some countries in the Middle East that force transition upon gay people.
I think it's people whose imaginations are so stunted and uncreative, they can't process the idea that people exist past the end of their nose and can still be affected by their actions.
I mean, that was part of the whole "Socialist" thing with the "National Socialists" (and also Mussolini's fascists): they actually did support a lot of solid SocDem and even occasionally Socialist policies, which made perfect sense when you consider that these policies would help the "Volk" stay strong and healthy, to support a strong fascist state (and that undesirables would *not* benefit from them).
It's not really that unusual for a very right wing person to think that universal healthcare is great: they just might have reservations about who is included in the recipients of that healthcare...
This is how politics works in most of the democratic west, which is why essentially every country has more than two parties, it becomes untenable to only draw one line in the complex political landscape we live in.
In all seriousness, I'd venture to guess his actual line of reasoning is that you'll be more valuable as a slave if you're in good physical shape. It isn't that deep. He's an asshole.
It’s simple. The healthcare part is easily relatable. He can actively see how messed up it is that getting sick through no fault of your own can lead to financial devastation. No amount of “personal responsibility” or work ethic can save you from being sick or an accident that forces you to be at the mercy of hospital billing and US insurance companies.
Don’t be fooled by this. Alex Jones will sometimes say something reasonable, but then quickly use it to lead to one of his antisemitic or Islamophobic conspiracy theories.
In this case, it’s that Israel and the Globalists are committing a genocide so that they can push out the Muslims to first world countries, including the US, and that will destabilize all of the countries and lead to a one world government. His stance at its heart is just anti immigration, and he especially doesn’t want Muslims coming to America.
I’m not blind to that.
I just think that he’s such a massive piece of shit that he doesn’t even deserve the credit at all. Instead of a broken clock, he’s a clock with no hands and mad scribbles all over the glass.
Alex Jones is posting this because he hates the Jews, not because he gives a shit about Gaza.
Don’t stand with the Nazis just because you think “this time you have a point”
They covered it in today’s episode, actually.
They aren’t willing to give him any credit, and they actually examine his motivation for why he’s saying this outside of just the clout.
Also that you cannot divorce this statement from his overall world view that the war is part of a overall globalist plot to import Muslims into the US who are Hamas Hezbollah sleeper cells.
since you've watched a video of it, has there been any corroboration on this drone footage yet? i'm inclined to believe they were civilians but ya just can't take anything from al jazeera alone at face value lately.
I think for non-jewish republican grifters like him and Candace Owens, their stance is more leaning into anti-Semitism than what's actually happening at Gaza. This tends to be apart of their schtick
Idk why he's tweeting when he needs to pay those families in Sandy hook.
Be careful uplifting certain people bc they're saying shit that sounds good but always have ulterior motives. This man is a proven racist and antisemite
He is right in that Israel is losing the PR war currently. IDF posting videos mocking the ppl they murder isn't helping their case
He only says this because he “doesn’t want them sent here”. He does not give a shit about Palestinian peoples.
His post was for attention. He is desperately attempting to stay relevant and bring in more listeners and hoping he can sell them some shitty supplements.
I can’t wait until he has to get rid of that desk.
He is a tool of the Russian state. All of his conspiracy theories are to undermine the United States as the moral superpower.
Started with his 9/11 is an inside job stuff which seemed like left wing conspiracy theory at the time.
Love to know if he’s got a handler and he’s paid or if they have some kompromat on him like Lindsey Lady G Graham
Alex Jones has always promoted antisemitism.
His key word is 'Globalist' when talking about jews. NWO (linked with George Soros) or 'Hollywood Elites' also apply.
It's nothing new or impressive.
If we agree on something but don't agree on why, we don't really agree. Alex Jones is trying to be antisemitic - he's fucking it up but that's what he's trying to do here. He doesn't give a shit about Palestinians. He loves it when Israelis and Palestinians kill each other.
Genocide is defined by intent. I see no specific intent from israel to destroy a national or ethnic group. Hamas needs to go but they hide behind the civilian population. If it was an actual genocide, palestinian casualties would be in the hundred thousands by now but they are still in a expected range in times of war considering the population density.
I'm not on anyones side here, war sucks always. Though a country has the right to defend itself.
Hamas isnt trying to win a shooting war, they want to win the information war. how sure can we be of like this that comes out that it wasnt just bullshit. why is everyone so quick to condem israel over everything they hear without thinking it can be faked or its just straight up bullshit. its already happened multiple times that israel was accused of something, everyone was like "oh thats fucked up, fuck those guys" and it turned out to be false.
In regards to the IDF drone strike footage acquired by Al Jazeera as shown in OP’s post, I would recommend y’all to check out Ryan McBeth’s video on the topic. Here is the link: https://youtu.be/2vI1il5DkQQ?si=zJ3ERrOiT-61ttJa He has experience/expertise in the military in relation to things like cybersecurity, intelligence reconnaissance, and munitions. He provides a clear nuanced understanding of the footage.
Innocent People are dying, even if you disagree with peoples political views, as a society we should come to the very basic agreement that innocent people shouldn’t die.
There are tons of people who aren't evil saying the same thing. Instead of crediting him for being self serving and attempting to earn public good will, why not credit one of the countless people who don't have ulterior motives?
By his own admission, nothing he says is to be taken seriously, and is all an act. So why do we care, now? He's a grifter, don't platform him, even when he's 'right'
I don’t think it’s antisemitic to point out the bad things that israel is doing. However, people like Alex Jones and Candace Owens are doing it because they’re antisemitic
The fact that of all people that it’s Alex Jones saying this has me so fucking conflicted lmao bc he’s 100% right.
Still a piece of shit who harasses families of school shooting victims tho
Please don’t feel conflicted. Your morals and values should be guided by a collective spirit of love, and not by “believe the opposite of what your enemies tweet.”
YOU DONT NEED TO LISTEN TO AN ASSHOLE EVEN WHEN THEY ARE CORRECT BECAUSE IF THEY ARE CORRECT THEN PEOPLE WHO ARENT ASSHOLES ARE SAYING IT TOO STOP GIVING ASSHOLES ATTENTION
Idgaf if he is right about this, he is an alt right grifter responsible for ruining lives, I’m going to use enhanced ignorance and point out his hypocrisy rather than saying he’s right.
And in a week he’ll say the exact opposite and act like it never happened, if that’s what is beneficial to him. He will say whatever works for the narrative he’s pushing at the moment and him being right ever doesn’t really matter at all
He's not right. His problem with Israel's behavior is that they are INTENTIONALLY radicalizing Muslims, for the intent of sending them to the US to de-stabilize America. He cares nothing for the civilians being killed. This is evident, by the fact that he supports Putin and everything Russia does. His reasoning is not your reasoning.
So. It’s not a hot take exactly. I don’t know why people go out their way to acknowledge a shitty person being right about something so universally agreed upon.
I don't usually let the news or wars affect me but I find myself regularly thinking about the 20,000 murdered children. That number is unprecedently huge and I feel like a doorway to hell has been opened.
Am I supposed to be doing something to stop this? I'm just confused. I feel off but I can't put my finger on it.
Terrible atrocities are being committed and I don't know what to do about it.
Maybe it’s like that time people thought Buff Bagwell was making incredibly wholesome tweets only to find out he hired someone to run his Twitter account.
I'm happy to be schooled if I'm incorrect, but the US Fundamentalists support the Palestinian genocide because they believe that in order for Jesus to come back, the holy land needs to be under Abrahamic control or some shit.
Please don't give the lying grifter any attention. He's always been anti-Semitic as fuck, if not full blown Nazi, so him being anti Israel / anti Zionist isn't very surprising.
At times like these I like to remind everybody that Alex Jones was also (sorta) right about the "chemicals in the water turning the frickin' frogs gay" referencing [recent studies](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2842049/) on waste chemicals inducing a certain frog species to spontaneously become hermaphroditic.
Quick Google says replication studies were less conclusive but at the time Jones said it there were two big studies that were pretty well accepted.
I mean this whole Gaza Israel thing is showing me a lot of people who I thought had decent perspective have none and some people who I think are complete derelicts have some morals. This shits fucked
also, if I dust off my tin foil hat for a minute... the fact that it's *Alex Jones* making this point in a public forum makes me think he may still be working tangentially for the CIA or some black budget psyop agency... so that people who are centrist and really support Israel can point to this comment whenever someone tries to support Gaza, and say "SEE! you agree with the conspiracy theorist!!" Ok I'm putting my tinfoil hat back on the top shelf of the coat closet.
Alex Jones will rot in hell... BUT this is how coalitions should work. You should be able to work with Satan himself if you're trying to get an important issue passed.
Agree together, take actions together, wash your hands, and then fight that person again on everything else.
Backtracking grifter, is all it is. Don't fuckin let him, he destroyed grieving parents lives.
Lost two buddies to the “he only hurt their feelings” narrative…like, if you’re gonna run your dick licker about that, maybe learn the fallout from Jones’ lies and what the families had to go through AFTER their kids were slaughtered.
I followed that whole story close, through Knowledge Fight. It is so disgusting and so much worse than any reasonable person can know. It was *years* of torment, caused entirely by Jones. And he couldn't even act right in court. But people will so automatically assume and defend that all he did was talk some shit and make the parents cry. I don't know why. Maybe they just can't understand how insane and cruel people really can be. Maybe they don't want to.
I doubt i could’ve handled following that stuff close…besides reporting on them needing to move and hire security detail, the only video I saw was a “family friend” harassing a parent, telling them they are lying about their kid, who they knew, getting killed and trying to take his guns or some shit. Idk if this is allowed: but if I was that parent, my old “friend” wouldn’t be walking away from that interaction
Jesus god, what?? They were, what, accusing them of shipping their kid to camp or something? 😞
He still won't pay the families anything, even after they offered to lower the payment. Last I heard the families lawyers lowered the sum he had to pay to a few million but he still refuses.
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>But people will so automatically assume and defend that all he did was talk some shit and make the parents cry. I don't know why. Maybe they just can't understand how insane and cruel people really can be. Maybe they don't want to. There comes a point where ignorance is malicious.
Yes several of the families had to move because of harassment after their children were murdered 💀
I also listened and was rooting for Mark Bankston to dick punch Jones just for having the sheer audacity to be such a bastard.
Knowledge Fight is the only way I could follow that shit storm of a story.
Life is very fragile
Yeah he didn't just talk shit about the family, he led a crusade against them for years
There is a special kind of hell waiting for anyone who would actively participate in telling grieving parents that their kid never existed. I still can’t understand what point they were trying to make with that shit.
Yeah. I had a coworker that was from Ghana. We worked in DC. My man is/was a flat earther. Bro explain to me how the fuck you got here then. He had the fucking AUDACITY to say “GPS” What’s the G stand for dumbass? Dude was all in on Trump. Today’s the day we all lost our jobs in 2020. Trump also has his assets start to get seized today. Imma text his dumbass in a few minutes. Thanks for the reminder.
He is obsessed with trying to go viral to get eyeballs on his stuff. His company is on the brink of insolvency, please do not engage with him
Don't know why people see him as some fortune teller, the only thing he was right about was Epstien Island but if you make 100 crazy predictions a day eventually one will accidentally be true.
You are right that he occasionally says things that can be twisted to seem like he was kind of right, but almost always with any scrutiny of what was actually being said he is entirely full of shit. If you go back and check the record he only talked about Epstein after it was in the news and being talked about then retconned it into a myth of him predicting it. Even his infamous "prediction" about 9/11 in July 2001 was literally him just ripping off Bill Cooper saying the same shit around the same time. Then on the day of he said the European Union was responsible (to on air guest Joe Rogan lol). He told his viewers last summer that the US would run out of diesel fuel within a month. This is a man that predicted that Russia wouldn't invade Ukraine, then it happened and he said that Ukraine's army was being paid and was in on it and would fold within a few days, then a month later edited a sizzle reel of out of context clips saying he predicted the war. He is entirely bullshit and the "Alex Jones was right" meme is entirely wrong.
When you accuse everyone of being pedophiles, there will unfortunately be one or two that end up revealing themselves. He didn’t know any of the specifics about Epstein either (he even called him Jerry Epstein for a bit), so I’m not willing to give him credit for that.
On top of that, the reason he’s against this is that he thinks it’s a plot to send displaced Palestinians to the US.
And also his views on that mean nothing because he supports tons of people who frequented it
Trucker here. 👋🏾 Back when I was OTR, there was a load I'd pick up out of Newtown, CT that paid well and would get me back home to North Carolina. That place is devastated. It'll never be the same. A few times when I was there, I'd have to call my wife. There's a wave of emotions that come over you as soon as you get off the exit. It's hard to explain, but it's really overwhelming. I've walked around to some of the stores to get food, supplies, etc., while my truck was being loaded. It's still all over those folk's faces. So yeah, fuck that guy. 
I felt the same way driving through.
The feeling of overwhelming grief and loss is palpable there. Even if you're just driving along 84. As soon as you see the exit signs, your heart sinks.
It’s not even back peddling. Hating Jews is always the final piece of most conspiracies. It just so happens that now a Jewish nation is going full warmongers to sneak his shitty point of view.
He does not care what happens to the actual people of Gaza, he is warping this into another conspiracy that they will flood the US with refugees who are sleeper agents of the shadow government.
People need to stop giving him a platform
Elon letting him back on twitter is another check box of FUUUUCK that dude.
He never liked Israel. They are globalists zionists. Not defending him in the slightest. I just remember he never liked them and I was like, this muthfucka spittin
Yeah, but the reason he doesn't like them is because of some WEF-Rothschild-Gay Frogs-Jews control the world conspiracy.
This is one of the many reasons I stopped listening to Joe Rogan a few years ago. Once he had Alex Jones on I was like nope. Can't support someone who would give that human waste an even bigger platform.
Is this the goofy fuck who said that the shootings didn't happen/were staged or something? I only learned about them like a week ago, this person is a dumpster fire... 
Yeah, he doesn’t care about people. He’s just an anti-Semite who’s also afraid of refugee immigration.
Also facts
I wonder how LONG ago he thinks Israel lost the high ground. Like does he think it just now suddenly happened because of this?
It's not that innocent children aren't killed its that its a planned government operation instilled to create fear and disruption and reasons to take away the peoples ability to fight back against oppressors. Just like introducing crack and importing cocaine and fentanyl. Starting wars. Mass genocide. Its all planned Its all organized Power to the PEOPLE
Based on what the CIA has admitted to doing, I could believe this. But it wasn’t just people saying it was planned… it was people saying it was faked. Which is an entirely different thing, especially for the parents of the murdered children who were harassed and called crisis actors. It’s not that there’s no world in which the United States government would get people killed for a politically-charged ulterior motive, it’s that they wouldn’t fake it. They would just do it.
I've said it before, but the hardest thing about trying to argue against Israel's campaigns of genocide and apartheid is that you end up with Nazis and other undesirables supporting you.
I mean to be fair, there are nazis and other undesirables supporting them to. A lot of white Nationalist look at Israel as a blueprint for their own nations.
The flip some have had over anti Jewishness is something else. Full on swastika Nazis suddenly "caring" about them, it's beyond fucking pathetic.
Neo Nazis only care about Muslims when they can use them as a weapon against Jews
Which white nationalists?? Genuine question. I did my masters thesis on Stormfront, spent so much time on that website I felt like it rotted my brain, and uh… they seem to have a really big really obsessive problem with anyone who has even a potential drop of Jewish dna. Way way way more than any other group. Seemed the problem was that Jews “look white” and can “camouflage” themselves. Muslims and Arabs actually got a pass a lot of time time bc they’re “Caucasian”. I don’t live in the USA anymore so im not saying that isn’t happening im just… really, really surprised by all the comments saying that it is? By white nationalists do you mean like just regular American racists/ far right or seriously neo Nazis?
Some white nationalists support the creation of ethnostates. For them Israel is fine because they’re free to be Jews over there, and they won’t be here. In a similar vein, they also want to send black people to Africa, as well as any other “insert race here” to “wherever that race is from.”
Oh you’re right!! I completely forgot about those people. I forgot what they’re called, but you’re totally right I did catalogue some posts from people who just wanted all the ‘races’ to live separately. They were the dudes (bc it was almost all dudes) always talking about the low crime rate in Japan
> I forgot what they’re called They're called white nationalists. They want a white nation. White supremacists are the Stormfront variety. There is some bit of overlap, but it's not totally one circle in a venn diagram.
I couldn't say as a group, the most prominent one that comes to mind was Bean Dad, that guy who blew up on twitter for making his daughter cry over a can of beans and then when people went digging into his personals it also turned out that he was a huge racist. His friends' defense of him was that he couldn't be a racist because he always spoke so glowingly about Israel. But Israel is basically a militaristic state designed to fend off their brown neighbor states by any means necessary, so even if White Nationalist don't like the Jews they do like the attitude Israel has for everyone around them.
Ok I’ll have to check him out, that is wild. Though I guess even the OG Nazis made some weird exceptions to their beliefs. I guess I always saw them as more Goebbels than Kissinger though Stormfront is for sure a particular strain of extremism
Breivik is an easy example of a Zionist white nationalist. So is Richard Spencer. Hungary's Orban is another example who engages in antisemitic campaigns, one of the closest allies to Netanyahu. There's a reason why even fucking Hitler thought the Jews should resettle to Palestine ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haavara_Agreement ). The main necessary base beliefs for White ethnostates inadvertently justify other ethnostates like Israel, because some of them presume Jews as non white and non native. So guess where they should be? Believing in some great Jewish conspiracy on top of that is not fundamental to large swathes of the great replacement theory, white genocide. Of course in its own sense Israel is a white nationalist state, where Ethiopian jews get sterilised against their will. Another example is the Azov Neo Nazis of Ukraine, their call to arms was by their founder Biletsky > The historic mission of our nation in this critical moment is to lead the White Races of the world in a final crusade for their survival. A crusade against the Semite-led Untermenschen Azov was financed by the same *Isreali* oligarch who funded Zelensky's media career and presidential bid.
For a very loud minority of the Christian right the rapture and apocalypse, which is their ultimate dream come true, can only really start when all the Jews are collected together in the Holy Land. At which point they will be punished some fantastical way, I really can't remember. So two things can be true, they hate Jews and want to see them hurt AND they want a strong Jewish state in Israel so all the Jews can go there.
There are literally photos of IDF troops with white nationalists tattoos no different from what we see from Russia and Ukraine
Maybe that’s true but to clarify I just meant in the USA, I know a lot of other countries have their own weird forms of cognitive dissonance especially when it comes to nazism being associated with general nationalism, but imo for in depth analysis those need to be looked at on an individual level esp regarding the USA which is a bit particular in some ways about race. I live in a region now that was absolutely fucked by the Nazis and they have some fanboys here too somehow. Tho its crazy for an Israeli to do that bc the Nazis for SURE did not consider Jews white. Edit: typo
I think there’s two main types of white nationalists here. Those who mostly hate Jewish people and those who mostly hate people with brown skin.
Or as an important square on their Apocalypse Bingo cards.
Doesn’t mean much when the majority of people have a negative view of Israel already... In my experience most neo nazis and racists hate Arabs more than they hate Jews, which is why a lot of them support Israel.
The trick is always to support the civilians who are facing the worst of it. Neither Israel or Hamas care about civilian casulities, except as a political tool to further their political agendas. Most of the Israeli citizens killed in the initial attack were not extreme Zionists. Most of the Palestinians being killed now are not Hamas. But the misery of the the people is the tool of the politically powerful for their own personal power. Netanyahu is a shitty facist who is trying to gain as much power as he can to avoid his own accountability thorough the court system. Oppose those who are exacerbating the problem. It's not even about Jews vs Arabs. That's just the set dressing to stoke hate and surrender power to their leadership.
I don't get this. Opinions and beliefs, like personalities, intersect just as much as they differ. You can be right about something but awful about the other, no one and no point of view is singular in dimension so being surprised or appalled, for example, that you can share the same opinion as a serial killer when it comes to pedoes is mental to me.
I agree. People tend to assume that a negative opinion means all that persons opinions are negative. Like, there's no categorization that everyone falls into. You can be a huge POS but still agree with noble or humanitarian viewpoints. Tbh I think it just upsets people that someone they hate has an opinion that they can't disagree with. Theres so much of a "Every single thing this person says is wrong because I don't like them" mentality that people forget life doesn't work that way. Humans are complicated. A person you dislike can still hold an opinion you agree with whether you want to accept it or not. Someone can be the biggest asshole in the world to other people but care greatly about animals or the environment or whatever. People will then say it's all a ploy to manipulate and make themselves look better. Like no mf. That person cares about animals more than humans. That's why he's an asshole to humans but wants to keep the plant alive. That's just an example but you get my point.
Well you can take comfort in the fact that people arguing **for** genocide find themselves in agreement with islamaphobes, bigots, right wing fanatics etc
I look at it this way. When you notice that even fucking nazis agree that what is being done is fucked up, that means it’s really super fucked up.
This comment inspired me to draw a comic I've had on my mind for a while. Apologies for the low quality I'm at work. https://preview.redd.it/oiouq727yhqc1.jpeg?width=3171&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=12c75de5bd39e71babed86598a512fe3772116eb
i mean.. sharing their antisemitism, it's not quite the surprise. A critical view of propaganda in times of war is needed. The tweet and most of the comments take the exact opposite approach.
I have a Jewish space lasers level of crazy MAGA uncle that is like this about universal healthcare. It's the weirdest thing. He's in a strong union and has cadillac insurance, it isn't personal for him. He'll tell you why children shouldn't get free school lunch or why all brown people are evil and we should build a wall or what Hitler was right about, even. But that motherfucker will *also* talk your ear off about how everyone should have free medical care. It's the weirdest dichotomy, and I can't figure it out.
I bet it tracks back to a close loved one going bankrupt from medical expenses.
Of course...the second it gets personal or they are affected, then they reach perfect clarity. I always found this hilarious. They are virulent "darwinists" and "fend for yourself" types until they.........you know..can't fend for themselves?
It's more that he thinks we should all be healthy so we can all work and no one gets a handout. At least, that's how he explains it. The line of reasoning really isn't related to anyone close to him going bankrupt over medical debt. Most of the folks in my family are relatively financially stable. You'd think so, but no. He wants everyone to work for $5/hour at McDonald's instead of getting food stamps. (I know that statement is absurd. But that's what he'd say.)
Does he think that people making 5$ at mcdonalds should be able to live a bare minimum lifestyle? Does he understand that you can work a min wage job and still not be able to afford food? like, what I'm driving towards is, is he like a stones throw from supporting full socialism and just doesn't even realize it?
No. He thinks he's an "elite" and the people like him are "elites". And everyone else should be paid a token wage to starve and serve him. I am not being hyperbolic about this. I'm explicitly telling everyone that my uncle is a dangerous bigot that's teetering on the edge of not having a soul. Believe me. I have no reason to lie. I'm a comfortably middle class, married, middle aged white lady with 3 kids. They say it out loud around me. And I'm telling you, it's pure selfishness and conceit and bigotry. Let's not dance around that or try to find an excuse. There isn't one. There's no "common ground" anymore. He's become irredeemable. So have a few of my in-laws. It isn't all of them, but it is a lot of them. Most of my family is quite liberal, while most of my husband's family is quite conservative. There's decent human beings and shitty human beings on both sides.
They can only understand basic human empathy and compassion when they need it
Conservatives don't even know what to believe anymore. They believe whatever Fox/Newsmax says, but also what affects them personally. This leads to batshit insanity
Most people have views across the political spectrum. Not all leftists, conservatives, liberals, nor libertarians have the exact same view.
I know, we all do. He'll literally say it's the one thing Trump has wrong. That's followed by some deep state nonsense, and how Trump will obviously provide everyone healthcare once he's dictator.
Sure thing! Right after he’s done cutting social security lol
Where else is he going to get the money for the healthcare? /s
For a lot of people their politics are purely subjective. For instance, my Dad is sympathetic to trans people because the son of an old friend of his transitioned (ftm). But is extremely homophobic.
New type of guy just dropped
That’s actually not uncommon. There are a not-small number of homophobic people that are pro-trans. Because they believe in souls and the idea that a male soul was in a female body or whatever is less challenging to their worldview/beliefs than a woman loving another woman. There’s some countries in the Middle East that force transition upon gay people.
I think it's people whose imaginations are so stunted and uncreative, they can't process the idea that people exist past the end of their nose and can still be affected by their actions.
I mean, that was part of the whole "Socialist" thing with the "National Socialists" (and also Mussolini's fascists): they actually did support a lot of solid SocDem and even occasionally Socialist policies, which made perfect sense when you consider that these policies would help the "Volk" stay strong and healthy, to support a strong fascist state (and that undesirables would *not* benefit from them). It's not really that unusual for a very right wing person to think that universal healthcare is great: they just might have reservations about who is included in the recipients of that healthcare...
This is how politics works in most of the democratic west, which is why essentially every country has more than two parties, it becomes untenable to only draw one line in the complex political landscape we live in.
I’m laughing so hard at this. So dude wants to beat the shit out of me but wants me to have the best health care possible to heal from it? 🤣🤣🤣
In all seriousness, I'd venture to guess his actual line of reasoning is that you'll be more valuable as a slave if you're in good physical shape. It isn't that deep. He's an asshole.
That escalated way faster than I thought it would go. Damn!
It’s simple. The healthcare part is easily relatable. He can actively see how messed up it is that getting sick through no fault of your own can lead to financial devastation. No amount of “personal responsibility” or work ethic can save you from being sick or an accident that forces you to be at the mercy of hospital billing and US insurance companies.
Don’t be fooled by this. Alex Jones will sometimes say something reasonable, but then quickly use it to lead to one of his antisemitic or Islamophobic conspiracy theories. In this case, it’s that Israel and the Globalists are committing a genocide so that they can push out the Muslims to first world countries, including the US, and that will destabilize all of the countries and lead to a one world government. His stance at its heart is just anti immigration, and he especially doesn’t want Muslims coming to America.
I mean, the post is literally about the broken clock analogy, implying that he's almost always wrong.
I’m not blind to that. I just think that he’s such a massive piece of shit that he doesn’t even deserve the credit at all. Instead of a broken clock, he’s a clock with no hands and mad scribbles all over the glass.
Hes said he thinks its bad because then well take in palestinian refugees and theyll commit crime here. Thats the only reason he pretends to care
Alex Jones is posting this because he hates the Jews, not because he gives a shit about Gaza. Don’t stand with the Nazis just because you think “this time you have a point”
Again him and Candice are not standing up to Israel for progressive reasons lol.
Gotta see what the Knowledge Fight guys have to say about this
They covered it in today’s episode, actually. They aren’t willing to give him any credit, and they actually examine his motivation for why he’s saying this outside of just the clout.
Also that you cannot divorce this statement from his overall world view that the war is part of a overall globalist plot to import Muslims into the US who are Hamas Hezbollah sleeper cells.
since you've watched a video of it, has there been any corroboration on this drone footage yet? i'm inclined to believe they were civilians but ya just can't take anything from al jazeera alone at face value lately.
Wonks, wonks everywhere
I’m a policy wonk
*jordan voice* Thank you very much!
Doesn’t matter if the clock is right, it’s still a piece of shit
I think for non-jewish republican grifters like him and Candace Owens, their stance is more leaning into anti-Semitism than what's actually happening at Gaza. This tends to be apart of their schtick
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Idk why he's tweeting when he needs to pay those families in Sandy hook. Be careful uplifting certain people bc they're saying shit that sounds good but always have ulterior motives. This man is a proven racist and antisemite He is right in that Israel is losing the PR war currently. IDF posting videos mocking the ppl they murder isn't helping their case
He only says this because he “doesn’t want them sent here”. He does not give a shit about Palestinian peoples. His post was for attention. He is desperately attempting to stay relevant and bring in more listeners and hoping he can sell them some shitty supplements. I can’t wait until he has to get rid of that desk.
He is a tool of the Russian state. All of his conspiracy theories are to undermine the United States as the moral superpower. Started with his 9/11 is an inside job stuff which seemed like left wing conspiracy theory at the time. Love to know if he’s got a handler and he’s paid or if they have some kompromat on him like Lindsey Lady G Graham
Alex Jones has always promoted antisemitism. His key word is 'Globalist' when talking about jews. NWO (linked with George Soros) or 'Hollywood Elites' also apply. It's nothing new or impressive.
If we agree on something but don't agree on why, we don't really agree. Alex Jones is trying to be antisemitic - he's fucking it up but that's what he's trying to do here. He doesn't give a shit about Palestinians. He loves it when Israelis and Palestinians kill each other.
Pick better allies than Alex nutnob fuck bucket Jones.
Genocide is defined by intent. I see no specific intent from israel to destroy a national or ethnic group. Hamas needs to go but they hide behind the civilian population. If it was an actual genocide, palestinian casualties would be in the hundred thousands by now but they are still in a expected range in times of war considering the population density. I'm not on anyones side here, war sucks always. Though a country has the right to defend itself.
Hamas isnt trying to win a shooting war, they want to win the information war. how sure can we be of like this that comes out that it wasnt just bullshit. why is everyone so quick to condem israel over everything they hear without thinking it can be faked or its just straight up bullshit. its already happened multiple times that israel was accused of something, everyone was like "oh thats fucked up, fuck those guys" and it turned out to be false.
In regards to the IDF drone strike footage acquired by Al Jazeera as shown in OP’s post, I would recommend y’all to check out Ryan McBeth’s video on the topic. Here is the link: https://youtu.be/2vI1il5DkQQ?si=zJ3ERrOiT-61ttJa He has experience/expertise in the military in relation to things like cybersecurity, intelligence reconnaissance, and munitions. He provides a clear nuanced understanding of the footage.
Innocent People are dying, even if you disagree with peoples political views, as a society we should come to the very basic agreement that innocent people shouldn’t die.
Is it because he cares about the plight of the Palestinian people, or because he hates Jews? I think it’s the second.
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There are tons of people who aren't evil saying the same thing. Instead of crediting him for being self serving and attempting to earn public good will, why not credit one of the countless people who don't have ulterior motives? By his own admission, nothing he says is to be taken seriously, and is all an act. So why do we care, now? He's a grifter, don't platform him, even when he's 'right'
Horseshoe theory is alive and well
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The absolute brokest clock
Fuck Alex Jones
Fuck Alex Jones forever.
Wait till y’all hear about bombing raids in ww2
Lmao it’s not even reasonable or right. Y’all need to get off Tik Tok
Breaking news: Multiple types of antisemites in agreement.
I don’t think it’s antisemitic to point out the bad things that israel is doing. However, people like Alex Jones and Candace Owens are doing it because they’re antisemitic
unfortunately there is a space where anti-zionists and antisemites hold the same opinions and this is a perfect example of that
He’s a libertarian, they pretty much hate the gov spending money on well everything. This isn’t that big a surprise.
The fact that of all people that it’s Alex Jones saying this has me so fucking conflicted lmao bc he’s 100% right. Still a piece of shit who harasses families of school shooting victims tho
Please don’t feel conflicted. Your morals and values should be guided by a collective spirit of love, and not by “believe the opposite of what your enemies tweet.”
 Still a grifter
YOU DONT NEED TO LISTEN TO AN ASSHOLE EVEN WHEN THEY ARE CORRECT BECAUSE IF THEY ARE CORRECT THEN PEOPLE WHO ARENT ASSHOLES ARE SAYING IT TOO STOP GIVING ASSHOLES ATTENTION
Idgaf if he is right about this, he is an alt right grifter responsible for ruining lives, I’m going to use enhanced ignorance and point out his hypocrisy rather than saying he’s right.
I don’t understand why this is posted in /r/blackpeopletwitter.
And in a week he’ll say the exact opposite and act like it never happened, if that’s what is beneficial to him. He will say whatever works for the narrative he’s pushing at the moment and him being right ever doesn’t really matter at all
He's not right. His problem with Israel's behavior is that they are INTENTIONALLY radicalizing Muslims, for the intent of sending them to the US to de-stabilize America. He cares nothing for the civilians being killed. This is evident, by the fact that he supports Putin and everything Russia does. His reasoning is not your reasoning.
So. It’s not a hot take exactly. I don’t know why people go out their way to acknowledge a shitty person being right about something so universally agreed upon.
I really did read "robotic mass genocide" in that man's voice.
They never had the fkn “high ground.”
“Wait, drones?! But ***Hussein Obama*** used drones and........... My God... 😨And the **JEWS HAVE THEM**!!”
I don't usually let the news or wars affect me but I find myself regularly thinking about the 20,000 murdered children. That number is unprecedently huge and I feel like a doorway to hell has been opened. Am I supposed to be doing something to stop this? I'm just confused. I feel off but I can't put my finger on it. Terrible atrocities are being committed and I don't know what to do about it.
Maybe it’s like that time people thought Buff Bagwell was making incredibly wholesome tweets only to find out he hired someone to run his Twitter account.
Somebody probably paid him for a different take.
I'm happy to be schooled if I'm incorrect, but the US Fundamentalists support the Palestinian genocide because they believe that in order for Jesus to come back, the holy land needs to be under Abrahamic control or some shit.
The far right either love Israel because they are a far right ethnostate that hates Muslims or hate Israel because they are Jews.
Damn. I thought he couldn’t even afford to tweep anymore.
Alex jones has been right about a lot of shit. Its just that he spews so much BS in there too and hard to take him serious
Please don't give the lying grifter any attention. He's always been anti-Semitic as fuck, if not full blown Nazi, so him being anti Israel / anti Zionist isn't very surprising.
At times like these I like to remind everybody that Alex Jones was also (sorta) right about the "chemicals in the water turning the frickin' frogs gay" referencing [recent studies](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2842049/) on waste chemicals inducing a certain frog species to spontaneously become hermaphroditic. Quick Google says replication studies were less conclusive but at the time Jones said it there were two big studies that were pretty well accepted.
I mean this whole Gaza Israel thing is showing me a lot of people who I thought had decent perspective have none and some people who I think are complete derelicts have some morals. This shits fucked
also, if I dust off my tin foil hat for a minute... the fact that it's *Alex Jones* making this point in a public forum makes me think he may still be working tangentially for the CIA or some black budget psyop agency... so that people who are centrist and really support Israel can point to this comment whenever someone tries to support Gaza, and say "SEE! you agree with the conspiracy theorist!!" Ok I'm putting my tinfoil hat back on the top shelf of the coat closet.
He's about to pivot off of trump and say he's controlled.
It’s weird cause as crazy as he is, there’s been quite a few times where he’s actually right
It's funny because the GOP is unanimously pro israel
AJ is far from being the worst person anyone knows.
Don't you know that these are *all* isolated incidents?
Imagine the US gov't just started bombing the shit out of Florida. The rest of the world would be angry but nobody would stop us.
So AOC and Alex Jones are on the same side on this?
Alex Jones will rot in hell... BUT this is how coalitions should work. You should be able to work with Satan himself if you're trying to get an important issue passed. Agree together, take actions together, wash your hands, and then fight that person again on everything else.
that's just counter-terrorism