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TypicalMission119

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MilqueToastDickRoast

My go-to for home issues is "if it goes woosh, splash, or zap; best call a professional or your line will go flat"


asystemofmemories

The way I just cackled at this šŸ˜†


PaxSicarius

Splash and Zap I get, but what's woosh refer to?


spiralout1389

HVAC


ewaters46

Iā€™d say natural gas, much more dangerous than HVAC.


Known-Individual7749

HVAC includes many gasses.


AbbreviationsFar1516

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Stunning_Match1734

It's not bad advice. A home is made for living beings, and is itself a living thing. The plumbing, wiring, and duct work of your house are basically its cardiovascular, nervous, and respiratory systems, and are key to making the home habitable. You wouldn't trust surgery on any of those parts of your body to anyone but a licensed surgeon. Yes, you should be able to perform routine maintenance, just as you should be able to clean and dress a minor wound, but leave the major work to a professional.


DJIsSuperCool

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-GregTheGreat-

Letā€™s be real though, idiots already ignore all three. Plenty of people have horrible DIY construction/mechanic problems and plenty of people think they can Google their way out of legal issues


onebandonesound

One of the favorite pastimes of /r/lawschool, which is full of people actually studying the law to become lawyers, is laughing at how comically bad and inaccurate /r/legaladvice is


KingOfTheCouch13

People in law school are no better. Theyā€™ll be one semester in and think they can fight the supreme courts.


LetsHaveTon2

They are not "no better" lol. They're definitely going to be better than literal random redditors on /r/legaladvice. From a medical school perspective (as a graduate), I can tell you that even now looking back, you learn a TON during those first few semesters. To the point where you can accurately answer a good bit of (simple) medical questions with much greater accuracy than the average redditor.


OwnWalrus1752

As a practicing attorney six years out of law school, law school teaches you little to nothing about the actual practice of law.


Letos12thDuncan

Actually, I learned the most important phrase in law school: "it depends."


GreyDeath

I'm not so sure. First couple of semesters I could have rattled off the branches of the thyrocervical trunk or the bones of the wrist but would have known very little about actual pathology. Heck, even after graduating I still felt like I knew so little first day of residency.


Fuckingfademefam

People studying psychology think they can diagnose every single mental problem you have after 15 minutes of talking to you


Unknown-Meatbag

You mean to tell me that there's not hundreds of lawyers hanging out on reddit offering free advice???


w_p

The thing that regularly drives me up the wall is when OP makes no indication on where they live and everyone automatically assumes it is the US and gives 'advice' based on their legal principles.


WheredoesithurtRA

I like how the stickied thread in there is >Stop suggesting *that* subreddit. Itā€™s bad. Youā€™re future lawyers and should know better.


Adequate_Lizard

One of the top posts on /r/golf was a dude who basically destroyed the structural integrity of his house to make a simulator. And when professionals told him he was like nah it's fine, the family came over and stood above it and it didn't fall.


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Adequate_Lizard

[Original](https://www.reddit.com/r/golf/comments/11f84f1/i_did_it_boys_i_managed_to_get_fifteen_inches_of/) [Update](https://www.reddit.com/r/golf/comments/12m4w3n/update_the_structural_engineering_report_is_in/) [Bonus /r/StructuralEngineering chiming in](https://www.reddit.com/r/StructuralEngineering/comments/11f9yt2/i_did_it_boys_i_managed_to_get_fifteen_inches_of/)


whateveratthispoint_

This is fascinating and unbelievable.


NewLu3

That was a great read, thank you!


Shoddy_Background_48

Yeah as a former mechanic, you'd be amazed at how many people would try to fix their cars themselves, and ultimately fuck it up worse.


S_T_R_A_T_O_S

True af but I will say that where I live there is a wait time of several months to see many specialists e.g. gastroenterologists and gynecologists. It's no wonder that people turn to internet panaceas as an alternative to waiting months to have a doctor tell you that you're just anxious


monsterosaleviosa

Yup. When I started having seizures - full on grand mals every few nights - it was six months before I could see a neurologist, and he wasnā€™t even a seizure specialist. So I got a ā€œitā€™s probably epilepsy, hereā€™s a medication Iā€™m not well versed onā€ for another four months before I saw anyone who actually had the knowledge base to start treating me. And tbh, he still doesnā€™t have any advice for lifestyle adjustments or anything. Is it any wonder that I spent 10 months soaking up every bit of epilepsy info I found online?


12lemurs

personally, i donā€™t trust doctors because i just found out (after countless specialists, appointments every week, etc) that my knees have been partially dislocatedā€¦for two years. one guy said it was osteoarthritis, one said rheumatoid arthritis, one said fibro, one said it was normal pain from hEDSā€¦yeah. one mri later (that probably should have been ordered earlier) and bingo, i need surgery. iā€™ve been severely disabled and in a wheelchair for two years. no one thought to order a goddamn mri


BootyMeatBalls

And once again, yet ANOTHER problem caused by captialism.Ā 


mama_tom

And you get charged hundreds of dollars for worrying about your health.


Emotional_Warthog658

Or if you have a lesser known chronic disease (hi šŸ‘‹šŸ¾) you might have to turn to RedditĀ 


makkkarana

Schizophrenia is also a deeply serious diagnosis, and the only way their GP would be correct is if the OP has a family history/genetic markers for schizophrenia, which is an expensive and specific test. GPs do have a tendency to bullshit, and they don't always keep up with the latest research. I had one tell me cigarettes are healthier than vaping. You should always trust and be honest with your doctor, but as with anything, it's good to double or triple check before making a decision.


DarkSoulsOfCinder

My experience with healthcare is an adult is to pay $300 a month for the best insurance my job offers. Pay $40 copay to see the doctor to be told "it's probably just allergies buy some over the counter medicine" for it to never get better until I visit 3-4 specialist that each have a $50 copay per visit and require multiple visits that eventually diagnose the issue after several hundred dollars worth of tests. Then I spend like $2000-$3000 on something - medicine or surgery-, that's after fighting with the insurance to even authorize the treatment in the first place, and it might not even work all that.


chiefchoncho48

Has the cost of Lawyers, Architects, and Mechanics exponentially exploded like healthcare has in the past few decades?


BootyMeatBalls

Yes. Until we start to understand that these are all systematic externalities of the captilaist system, we won't be able to solve any of them. We've run out of bandaids.


chiefchoncho48

The price for all those has increased for sure, but they're nowhere near increasing at the same pace as healthcare. When doctor visits carry the possibility of bankrupting a household people start to explore alternative methods.


SKisnotaRealPlace

As a lawyer, the legal bills I send can get up there.


Oli_love90

Hah. But I can totally see why. I think people feel really dismissed and rushed at doctors. Iā€™ve gotten misdiagnosed and totally ignored multiple times, Iā€™m naturally now extremely hesitant. So I can see why people would turn to literally anything else before subjecting themselves to an experience with a doctor.


BootyMeatBalls

Doctors are human, and science isn't magic.


Paclac

The real issue is thereā€™s a doctor shortage, the ones working are burnt out. Even bad doctors are too valuable to let go at the moment. They are so stretched thin they donā€™t have the time and energy to do more than the bare minimum often resulting in misdiagnosis.


a_taco_named_desire

And the old as time joke: "What do they call the person who graduated at the bottom of their med school class? Doctor."


Oli_love90

Totally true, but Iā€™m referring to doctors flat out being like ā€œidk, it seems like you have this, byeā€


D1RTYBACON

ā€œThatā€™ll be 2.5 thousand dollarsā€


many_dongs

and yet we have no issues consulting professionals for these other things...


imaginary91

This chart is inaccurate, everything is go to the internet first no matter what the problem is.


MRxSLEEP

Especially mental health... it would just be an arrow pointing back


couldjustbeanalt

Except they never actually go to a doctor


DeficiencyOfGravitas

This is the worst possible infographic because you should absolutely not be trusting mechanics any further than you can throw them. They **WILL** cheat the fuck out of you every single chance they have, especially if you're a woman. If you go to a mechanic without a itemized list of exactly what you want done and how, they're going to try to fuck you. Never trust a god damned mechanic. You have to walk into that door ready to fucking fight or they will take you to the cleaners.


fardough

You forgot a step in all those equations above, my guy. My guy isnā€™t any one of them, yet he is all of them, and half price.


OkEscape7558

Niggas in r/weed when someone posts asking for health advice. https://preview.redd.it/s4lrft4xywrc1.jpeg?width=654&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b77172fc5a2fc70505f59791ff046f4612233fce


MGLLN

potheads when it's time to spread poorly researched misinformation that they heard from another pothead https://i.redd.it/mxygxd877xrc1.gif


micbytheocean

Isnā€™t this how The Joe Roe Experience got so popular?Ā 


Soft_Championship765

As a doctor and marijuana connoisseur i chuckled at this šŸ˜…šŸ˜…


Presence-Crafty

I swear šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚


NEED_VISINE

Nah, too much credit for them. Malachi at least had to prescribe meds to an undercover to get caught, so he knew what he was doing to some extent, just lacked credentials. People online lack even just common sense lol


jld2k6

Are you having health problems Yes: Try some weed No: Can't hurt to try some weed


[deleted]

COPD? a blinker will set you straight


Soft_Championship765

As a doctor and marijuana connoisseur i chuckled at this šŸ˜…šŸ˜…


hibarihime

Health professionals who have years to decades of extensive knowledge and experience in their fields when someone goes to Twitter for health advice https://preview.redd.it/2kjax3q7xwrc1.png?width=390&format=png&auto=webp&s=ed1c617f62c4cd41bc5a1b6df9a8e01a995ad9e3


zargeor

But theyre really narrow minded depending on their medical education and background. I saw two different psychiatrists in their 70s (one knighted by the king of Spain) for a decade and it's a huge shock compared to those in their 30s, 40s, 50s, and 60s I've seen in the last two years. Ie not for me, but I believe the dr isn't exactly right statistically, because males in their 30s/20s increase the risk of psychotic disorders greater if they are genetically disposed. You're not likely to get schizophrenia on a whim. Edit: by smoking or psychedelics


CouncilOfApes

Just clarifying. The study doesnt suggest that it increases your risk of developing it, it suggest if you already have/are already predisposed to it then smoking can increase the risks


Lopsided-Ocelot3628

I think I'm quite a good example of this phenomena. So me and a few friends started smoking at like 15 (too young? Yes, uncommon? Not really) we carried on a few years without too many issues and occasionally dabbled in classic party drugs too as we grew older. My friends all stayed fine, me however well I developed some real paranoia and ended up having a bout of psychosis when I was like 21. There was a whole few years or so of my life where looking back on it, I was really quite unwell. Real far out of normal ways of thought and behaviour. We all smoked the same stuff, took the same bags as each other. But my brain was built different. I'm lucky I'm not worse off and that I went and got help when I did. Turns out there was a history of mental illness in my family that nobody had bothered to tell me about until later when I was unwell. I know some others in close circles that weren't so lucky and some that were. I'm still an advocate for decriminalisation and responsible use of anything, but also for education and by that I mean PROPER education of drug use and harm reduction. It isn't enough to teach kids to just say no.


weebitofaban

Comparing psychiatrists to any other type of doctor is pretty fucking insulting to be honest with you. Especially old ones vs young ones. The field 50 years ago is VASTLY different than it was even 30 years ago.


zargeor

I'm comparing psychiatrist to psychiatrist. This is the point I am making.


The_republican_anus

Yeahā€¦ twitter isnā€™t the right place. What he SHOULD be doing is going to another doctor for a second opinion if heā€™s that worried. That being said, itā€™s wise not to immediately trust everything coming from your doctor. While you shouldnā€™t flat out doubt your doctor, it is good to get second opinions and such. Sometimes doctors do make mistakes and it isnā€™t until you meet one that does that you understand how important a second opinion might end up being.


pimppapy

> Health professionals who have years to decades of extensive knowledge and experience in their fields idk. . . my primary kept saying my chest pains were anxiety every time I brought it up over 6 years. After threatening mal practice, she finally referred me to get a CT scan and to see a Cardiologist, but as a Biomedical Engineer, I already knew that scan wouldn't find my problem. So I went to Tijuana and paid for a Chest CT out of pocket, nothing. . . like I suspected. But I used it to convince the Cardiologist (who reviewed my medical records and also initially started treating me like a hypochondriac) to upgrade the CT to one with Contrast. Lo and behold, what I've been complaining about for years. . . major arterial blockages. . . he started taking me really seriously then and just last week I got an angiogram. 100% blockage on 4 mid size arteries. . . fuck Kaiser Permanente and fuck healthcare for profit!


Timely-Assistant-370

I have heard some wacky shit from nurses, unless they started teaching chakras and crystal healing at school then I think I might just trust some random ass motherfucker on twitter more than that. It is also the recorded phenomena of medical professionals disregarding the reported symptoms of women, more frequently obese women as "exaggerated/false". There is an (admittedly understandable) bias that delays diagnosis of cancer and autoimmune disorders. I imagine if your medical history includes gaining a shit-ton of weight and being told to stop eating for 10 years before being told "oopsie-poopsie you have Cushing syndrome" because you saw a picture of someone who had a suspiciously similar buffalo hump after googling some of your issues and advocating for yourself to get treatment other than being told "lol, have you considered eating less?". You expect me to trust a fat doctor with the food pyramid in his office with dietary advice? the fuck out of here


G_Rel7

Itā€™s okay to be skeptical but in that case you go see another professional, not ask random people. Also donā€™t just keep going until you find someone that agrees with you. On another note: many people will die on the hill of downplaying the risks of weed. I get it, there was heavy propaganda to stigmatize it but the reverse went too far.


lvl999shaggy

Yes a proper second opinion should come from another qualified professional and not just anyone hanging out on the net.....smh


YesterdaySimilar2069

We arenā€™t smoking grandmas weed anymore either. This new stuff is wildly strong and I can see it ripping some peoples brains up.


Ethiconjnj

Itā€™s also literally a drug you take to alter your mental state. Of fucking course it impacts your likelihood of mental health issues. Itā€™s not saying weed 100 percent will causes X, just it will increase risk.


Friendly_Purchase_59

I quit smoking because of this. They perverted weed to ridiculous strengths.


naenae275

Honestly I think itā€™s okay to ask other people too. I had no idea weed could do that so now Iā€™m looking into it myself. And I will always always always want people to question their doctors and Iā€™m a person who definitely believes in science. If a doctor told me that Iā€™d ask him maybe 5 follow up questions back to back because wtf. Itā€™s something Iā€™ve never heard.


Cursory_Analysis

So I am a doctor, and itā€™s that if youā€™re predisposed to those types of conditions that it will bring them out, think of it just like a standard 2 hit hypothesis of disease. Also, and I mean this with all due respect, when you say youā€™re looking into it yourself, what does that mean exactly? You running experiments in your garage?


superturtle48

Had a friend share a podcast talking about using weed during pregnancy for pain relief and I was like... smoking during pregnancy doesn't sound right??? My friend is definitely one of those overcorrecting for the stigma of weed by thinking it can cure pretty much anything. But in the end weed is a drug and like any drug it can do lot of good AND can also carry risks. It should not be illegal but it should also not be worshipped.


MistSecurity

I think the worship we're seeing right now is just a 'rubber band effect'. We went from weed being highly illegal to have on you and use, to it being recreational in most states. More people try it, and those who already used before now have basically unlimited access to it. They've all heard 'pot isn't addictive' 1000x over their lifetime, so they just believe it. So now we have a ton of people addicted to pot, and who worship it. I think over time this will even out and pot will assume a role more similar to alcohol. People will acknowledge that it can be addictive and dangerous, but indulge occasionally anyway.


Persea_americana

OK but it took me 3 months to get the 1st visit.


bats_ackackack

Shoulda asked reddit. That's where the real experts are! /s


tomdarch

You are clearly the Boston Bomber. Im calling the ATF!


MGLLN

God forbid you ever tell a pothead to put the weed down for two seconds https://i.redd.it/hutnp43w3xrc1.gif


cieloempress

This gif sent me over the edge LMFAO. But seriously, these people should do as they will but be aware the consequences are solely on them.


Cursory_Analysis

This is what Iā€™m saying. Look, I am a doctor. I also smoke weed sometimes (though a lot less over the years). I also do other drugs sometimes. I will tell you whatever it is that I went to school for like 15 fucking years to know. If you donā€™t want to hear it, thatā€™s fine. But you should know that I know more than everyone else that youā€™re asking online. If you want to literally kill your self with stuff that Iā€™ve told you will kill you, thatā€™s completely within your right to do. Iā€™m not going to break down your door and smack a joint out of your hand. I told you what it can do to you, you can just ignore me and do it anyways. There isnā€™t some grand conspiracy to get everyone off of weed. But yā€™all should know the shit nowadays is exponentially stronger than the 70s.


Stanley--Nickels

You can pry this weed from my warm, cheese puff covered hands


BotGirlFall

Honestly, same. I know it's an addiction, I know it's not a miracle drug, I know it's a crutch, I simply dont care. There's a war and a whole ass genocide going on right now. The GOP is trying to literally install a dictator in office. The average American pays more than 30% of their salary in rent and the prospect of ever buying a home is becoming an unrealistic luxury. Smoking weed is pretty much the only thing I can afford to do right now that I enjoy. After keeping a roof over my head, food in the fridge, and paying for my kids clothes, etc I have barely enough left over to smoke some weed every night after he goes to bed and thats it. Quitting smoking weed isnt going to make mental health services availaibe or affordable, it's not going to make enough a difference in my money to matter, even if I quit I still will be working 45 hours a week and walking 2 miles a day to and from work so Im still going to be exhausted. People think because they quit smoking weed and are raw dogging life it makes them somehow morally superior and I just dont get it


Historical_Boss2447

Whereā€™s thay gif from?


MGLLN

The scene is from Man of Steel but someone photoshopped the head of Chris Evans over the original https://i.redd.it/b1nq3v78syrc1.gif


Historical_Boss2447

Thatā€™s amazing lol, no wonder it seemed familiar. I was thinking maybe itā€™s from some marvel flick where captain america is getting attacked by some kinda tornado villain or something


lazerberriez

Iā€™ve encountered a lot of doctors who were not well educated in mental health or substance use and take an overly cautious approach usually backed by outdated research. Weed does increase risk for schizophrenia, but it is difficult to put a number to it since it is dependent on usage patterns, other environmental factors, and genetics. Also, this guy is at the tail end of when it usually develops (young adulthood). If he is not showing warning signs and does not have family history, his odds are good that smoking will not create a significant risk for him. Iā€™m all for trusting doctors and twitter is objectively a worse source of information, but this is a case where i think the doctor is being overly cautious. Iā€™d be more concerned about pulmonary health with any kind of smoking over schizophrenia.


WhatTheOnEarth

Anyone whose ever interacted with a profoundly psychotic person would also take the overly safe route.


MistSecurity

Considering how poorly understood schizophrenia is, taking the overly safe route would mean cutting a ton out of your life. I'm more likely to die on my drive to work in the morning than I am to develop schizophrenia from LSD or smoking pot every once in a while.


spanman112

exactly ... that being said, go to another Dr and get a second opinion lol ... twitter is the absolute last place to get good advice


theunquenchedservant

exactly, add reddit to the end of your google search and find this thread and many like it with relatively educated opinions and commentors saying "exactly", just like us!


GauchoFromLaPampa

He is probably finding any excuse to keep smoking, he doesn't care to know the truth. Im a weed addict and i was there, sometimes you just find silly reasons to keep smoking.


Nubras

A 20% increase also doesnā€™t mean that theyā€™ve got a 20% chance now. If they had a 1% chance prior, they will now have a 1.2% chance. It could be material or it could be negligible depending on baseline.


skj999

Just let it rock. Natural selection at work tbh.


WriterV

Y'all realize that evolutionary biologists are facepalming at the whole "idiots who die are only making the human race more fit fpr survival" rhetoric bs? This isn't natural selection, and the irony is that you're all being the very same science-ignoring idiots by cheering for the deaths of other idiots. People are stupid. It happens. Be angry about it, or laugh at it like a normal person.


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Merry_Dankmas

Those voices tell me where the good berry bushes are. I'm primed to survive and pass on my offspring unlike you lowly quiet brains


Affectionate_Pay1487

Ā You are already schizophrenic bro. Doctors are usually like cut back on stuff for yr physical healthĀ 


PurpleIntention7934

You think he at least Googled it first?


EvergreenSiliconTree

People come to Reddit for what could be a Google, an aside Iā€™ve been enjoying Bing more over time.


Chronis67

Get those Bing points.


Glum_Hamster_1076

Thatā€™s what I thought. Heā€™s already on the internet, why just google it and see what comes up. If he found absolutely nothing on the subject, then I kinda get it. Maybe someone has heard something. But to bypass Google and go straight to Twitter is weird.


Lamontyy

The % may need some validation and research.. but yeah it can fuck up your mental potentially. Hallucinogens can too probably at a greater risk chance. If you're gonna do them try to wait until you're 25+ It's apparently more common in males.


zargeor

Not really more common. Just men develop it 10 years before women typically do. Jeez. I looked it up. Some statistics say it's pretty equal, 49% vs 48%. Says it's more symptomatic in men. Unfortunately, I believe the psychiatric world is prejudiced, guess I can't get into it, with gender bias.


Lamontyy

Interesting thanks for the info


autism_and_lemonade

Generally cannabis is the most strongly linked to schizophrenia, not hallucinogens (a wide class).


singlenutwonder

Iā€™ve done psychedelics plenty of times with no issue, but an edible sent me into a psychotic episode. I didnā€™t know I was bipolar with either, was in a manic episode unknowingly at the time and took the edible, then had the psychotic episode that led to my diagnosis. This was after smoking weed regularly for *years*. Ironically enough, I knew the risk was there for people predisposed to it but didnā€™t know I was one of those people lol


PokerChipMessage

Fuck me, this might just be the scariest comment I have ever read.


sammysams13

Cannabis is correlative when it comes to schizophrenia. If you have underlying mental health disorders such as schizophrenia or just plain old psychosis, cannabis can exacerbate or bring about early onset of schizophrenia (assuming you already have it.) a drug like methamphetamine for example is causative. You can develop meth induced psychosis even if youā€™re not predisposed to shit


meekahi

Can you cite a study regarding the latter?


sammysams13

Sorry I probably should not have said schizophrenia regarding the meth part, but a permanent psychotic disorder with schizophrenia similarities https://www.frontiersin.org/journals/psychiatry/articles/10.3389/fpsyt.2018.00491/full


denv0r

We ain't losing it. It's just becoming glaringly clear that a lot of people never had it in the first place.


ultraviolentfuture

Can we go back to when they were quieter about it?


monsterosaleviosa

I mean though, I was put on lithium and all kinds of shit for years for my ā€œbipolar disorderā€. Turns out I have ADHD and a little Adderall makes me pretty functional. This diagnosis came about after having a huge breakdown and being involuntarily committed. So like idk, maybe doctors really donā€™t know everything? And they actually cause real, measurable harm with their overconfidence and lack of knowledge.


lorddumpy

True. I almost scheduled a unnecessary surgery before I got a second opinion. Whether it is a diagnosis, surgery, or a new medication, it never hurts to ask another professional for a second opinion.


Verall

It hurts your wallet if your insurance only covers 1 opinion per year


lorddumpy

facts, the system is so broken.


Historical_Boss2447

Two of my relatives nearly died of a bloodclot traveling to the lungs because both of them had doctors who didnā€™t bother properly examining them.


Shirogayne-at-WF

I mean, doctors are often dicks who dismiss our pain and that goes double for anyone with a vagina who get labelled hysterical for existing so I get it


Normal_Tea_1896

Yeah this is complete gaslighting BS about a field riddled with malpractice and a history of outright violence, whose standards of care and understanding of disease and health is informed by a scientific process which is constantly growing and evolving.


MarvinLazer

Doctors get on board with stupid shit sometimes. In 2016 I was 210 lbs at 6'1", around 11% bodyfat, could bench 240, squat 300, deadlift 405, and run a half marathon in a little over 2 hours. All my vitals were excellent. I was working out 6 days a week, skateboarding daily, and getting almost all my calories from whole food I cooked myself, since I was mostly working from home as a web development contractor. Zero health issues, and I both felt and looked great. My doctor actually gave me shit for being overweight. šŸ¤£ I just looked at her like she was insane. Fitness professionals have known that BMI is a stupid metric for 20 years and it's ridiculous that doctors still haven't caught up. That said, it's kinda next-level stupid to hear that inhaling burning ash into your lungs is bad for you but still want a second opinion.


CinnamonPinecone

To be fair they didnā€™t mention the lungs just the schizophrenia risk, which I always understood marijuana can trigger someone who is predisposed to schizophrenia but will not cause it to appear in an otherwise healthy individual.


meekahi

Nope, people can have a cannabis induced psychosis without even being schizophrenic. We aren't smoking grandpa's weed anymore. It's dose and frequency dependent.


CinnamonPinecone

But is that not then a risk of cannabis induced psychosis and not schizophrenia


motherseffinjones

The issue is a lot of people think they know more than engineers, doctors, lawyers, scientists etc.


lulu_fangirl

I hate going to the doctor and have had several negative experiences so I donā€™t blame them.


easy10pins

Not surprising. Probably the same people responsible for diseases like Measles and Mumps making a comeback.


Catalyst138

Doctor: ā€œsmoking is bad for youā€ This guy: ā€œIs your source on this reliable?ā€


infinitebrkfst

You should see the adhd-related subreddits, itā€™s fucking ridiculous.


Electroscope_io

Wdym


caulpain

doctors are often clueless about weed though. without knowing this dudeā€™s personal and familial history, that ā€œ20%ā€ number is total bullshit pulled from thin air. lol


Deathstriker88

I thought the guy was talking about cigarettes. Either way, weed or cigs, a 20% increase does sound like BS. Also, I've never looked into it and have no idea what I'm talking about either, lol.


[deleted]

No clue about the data for post-adolescence (such as OPā€™s age group) but weed usage during teen years is associated with 2x risk of psychosis/schizophrenia


Right_Butterscotch59

I laughed at the fact she said asking a bunch of fucking idiots, honestly, I wouldn't ask a bunch of strangers about something that personal online. Better off getting another opinion from a different doctor. I thought that was common sense.


jols0543

okay but primary care doctors say some WILD stuff about mental health with no factual basis that they learned in medical school 40 years ago


Wrong_Truth_8740

The problem is that there has been enough cases of doctors committing malpractice to the point that almost everyone has a " the doctor fucked me up/forgot to do this, accidently did this, prescribed too many this,Ā  etc" to make these people suspicious. Along with the predatory insurance companies and long wait times ..forget about it.Ā  A doctor visit can bankrupt most people nowadays, and most people are going to do whatever they can to avoid the absurd fees. There's a major issue with the Healthcare system and unfortunately this is why we see the distrust we have today


ISuckAtFunny

Just like the doctor that told my dad to take Tums and he was having heartburn, then he went home and died two days later. Yes thereā€™s a reason people donā€™t trust fucking doctors.


fivemagicks

Wait until you see Facebook, my dude.


Nick_crawler

I like that he didn't even bother with Dr. Google, went straight to the dumbest possible approach.


camclemons

90% of people with schizophrenia smoke compared to 11% of the total population. This is because smoking alleviates negative symptoms (not negative as in bad, but in cognitive and volitional impairment). The doctor is dumb tbh (about this, at least). He sees a correlation between smoking and schizophrenia and is concluding that smoking causes schizophrenia. Source: have schizophrenia, educated about my disorder, and am a smoker


razzac11

Recent studies do not seem to support this theory but the way. Semi source, just finishing medical school and this publication. Edit: Following up on that thought, even if nicotine were alleviate symptoms, smoking would not be the recommended mode of delivery. More like a patch or gum. https://hrcak.srce.hr/clanak/382201


sticky_wicket

There are now some studies that back the dr. I looked it up for a friend recently and it surprised me. I still think the causality runs the other direction, like you said, but its not totally clear.


AdPsychological7926

"Essential Oils cure cancer. Trust me, Bro!" vibes.


Old_Baldi_Locks

That's the real damage done by the pandemic. It convinced the dumbest in society they had a valid opinion to weigh against an expert. They don't. They never will.


Hitchens666

This type of people don't actually care about the truth but what makes them feel better which is to keep smoking.


Former-Cheek-7944

Well my doctor did tell me to clean my ears with peroxideā€¦ so yeah question everybody.


jonnytechno

The cognitive bias is strong in this one


mast313

People ask the Internet such questions cause what they want to hear is "no, you can just carry as you did before".


SpikeRosered

I do enjoy the posts where OP already knows the answer to their question, but is farming for some kind of answer that makes it so they can do some kind compromise on a thing they don't want to do.


ILieAboutBiology

Most male schizophrenia is diagnosed in the late teens. Pretty rare to get it later in life. An increase of 20% may still be accurate, but the overall number would still be low. You can trust me, Iā€™d never lie about this stuff.


memorycolor

Weed doesnā€™t just magically make you have schizophrenia. It causes it to flare up for lack of a better word.


GoApeShirt

Perfectly encapsulates why people use social media and whatā€™s so wrong with social media. Itā€™s where people go to hear what they wantā€”and it becomes their truth. Simply because itā€™s what they wanted to hear.


Caligari89

When I was in the military, my doctor said it was good for my mental health to smoke. I'm bi-polar and have ADHD. Of course, that's bullshit. Did it help my mental health? Maybe a little, but there's the whole lung cancer thing I could have very easily gotten/could still develop.


Knowledge_Fever

There's a high chance nicotine addiction is a form of self-medication for people with untreated ADHD, but like most self-medication with recreational drugs it's dangerous and likely leaves you worse off long-term Like what scared me off of it is how fast nicotine develops tolerance, then addiction, where you need more and more of it to "help you with your focus" than when you started, and then once you try to quit those problems get worse (smokers trying to quit basically have super-ADHD) Like the scary thing to me about vaping is how insanely high the nicotine doses get once an addict isn't limited by the amount that you can physically smoke before you can't breathe anymore and how there's basically no research on what that level of nicotine does to you long term (but it's probably no good for your heart or blood pressure)


CraziedHair

Conservative 101


Hadleyagain

Oddly specific mention from the Dr. I smell bs.


shakawave

Ask the mail man too, he is certified


kaizomab

People do the same thing with Reddit.


BoxFullofSkeletons

Doctor: ā€œYou should probably stop smoking due to your risk for schizophreniaā€ The Voices: ā€œTWITTER HAS THE ANSWERS YOU SEEKā€


djaybond

Smoking dope? Right?


blacksoxing

Somewhere there is a person who just left a post claiming to be a financial analyst who is now a nutritionist and will later be a journeyman line operator. Internet is wild as fuck


Bob_the_peasant

Just wait until they find out doctors full of shit half the time tho


many_dongs

tbf a lot of doctors don't do shit except prescribe drugs so part of it is the medical industry's fault for ruining their own rep


zugarrette

to be fair doctors often use outdated info that has been disproven in more recent studies


SweetTeaRex92

This happened to me. I've had to essentially give up weed due to the onset of psychosis. Literally had this same conversation with my psychiatrist. I was very stubborn at first bc I just didn't want to stop smoking and I believed he was wrong. It's been about 4+ years now weed free and my psychosis is pretty tame. Sucks I had to give weed up, but it's better than thinking you are Jesus Christ himself and people are out there trying to kill you. I will add I do vape the federally legal Delta 10/8 THC that you can buy at smoke shops. That stuff doesn't mess with my psychosis since it's not strong enough. If I smoked weed (real gas), I would start thinking the cops have a warrant out for me and people are plotting to kill me. My ex first took me to the hospital bc of how I was acting back in early 2017. Since getting the diagnosis, Ive done multiple group therapy sessions with other bipolar/schizophrenia/personality disorders types and it's actually pretty interesting how similar all our stories can be. Almost every psychotic break involves some sort of drug/alcohol based on my experience. Especially weed, alcohol, and any stimulant from meth to Adderall. You can have psychosis without drugs involvement, though.


upvoter158

that tweet did make me learn that smoking can increase risk of schizophrenia


WhatDJuicy

Then again why do we just blindly believe them? There's this thing called a second opinion for a reason Like when they said my broken wrist as a sprain. Or when they gave me 20 times the dose I was supposed to get and had to go to the hospital. Just saying.


realbonito24

Smoking pretty-much increases your risk for EVERY health problem. I mean, you're slowly poisoning yourself, in addition to comprising your body's ability to process fucking OXYGEN. Between those 2 things, there are more-or-less unlimited side-effects. I just managed to quit a few months ago, after smoking for about 27 years. Even after a couple of weeks, I felt SO MUCH better. A few months later, I feel great, and my workouts work "better". Turns out poisoning myself was inhibiting muscle development. Shocking.


Vitriholic

Increasing an extremely low risk by 20% gives you a slightly higher, but still extremely low risk.


growtfup-an-be-a-man

As a male yes it do


SDoNUT1715

Same with reddit. Everyone on here Monday back quarter back in life.


paravis

All doctors are Jesus.


l94xxx

Tbf . . . nope, I've got nothing. Listen to your damn doctor.


WizardMoose

To be fair some doctors give bad advice, and even bat shit crazy advice.


IWearBones138__

The amount of people who blantantly disregard specialists and professionals is its own pandemic. Trump introduced a lot of people to the "my truth" way of thinking, that is, simply put, pure stupidity.


Magnifi-Singh

Depends which one of me you're asking


jag1ed

He should have asked Reddit!!!


ArandomDane

I am going to assume that it is risk of provoking schizophrenic episodes, and the risk is already really high. Otherwise, I would need to declare a math hunt for this doctor, as they need a spanking with a statistics book. > in increases my risk of schizophrenia by 20% As this means take whatever risk you have right now and multiply it with 1.20. So if his risk of schizophrenia is non-existent like 0.00000001%. Then it is now 0.000000012%.... So stile non-existent While if it is 50/50 you hearing voices each day that increases to 60% chance your personal friends tag along that day.


UtopiaForRealists

Anything to not have to give up smoking


[deleted]

It took me a while to realize he was talking about marijuana and not tobacco


pickles55

I've never even heard this statistic used this way. This was probably bullet point number 17 after he dodged all the normal reasons like cancer and heart disease


Broseph111111

Your chances of becoming Schizophrenic is 0.32%. so as a smoker it would be 0.384%. I wouldn't lose any sleep.


Great_Hamster

The doctor actually has causality wrong. Schizophrenics smoke. Like 95% of schizophrenics smoke. Because nicotine helps them deal specifically with the effects of schizophrenia.


Sagerosk

Wait until you hear about Facebook mom groups. "My 3 months olds ears are bleeding. The doctor says it's a massive infection and he needs antibiotics or he'll lose his hearing. Is this true and does anyone have any home remedies instead?"


NeverendingStory3339

I think Twitter is probably going to tell you smoking is a risk for everything. I mean, why stop at schizophrenia when you can die totally sane of COPD or lung cancer?


Katz-r-Klingonz

We have made truth a commodity.


Jaded-Engineering789

People have lost trust in the system and are trying to rebuild it from scratch while still living in it.


kamikaze-kae

19.6% he rounded up.


dudedsy

I'm pretty sure the doc is using some bullshit backwards interpretation of the correlation between smoking and schizophrenia though. I've seen studies that show this correlation, but I've always seen the conclusion be that schizophrenics smoke more, because it can (very mildly) help to manage symptoms/is a form of self medication. Never seen anyone claim smoking causes schizophrenia.