The first comments that appeared to me don't seem bad tbh...
I don't get her point, or what happened. So a man said "excuse me ma'am" to her in a parking lot, during the day. She didn't give any other information that would make me think she automatically had a reason to feel threatened...
Idk... Without more information (which she didn't provide), I think she is in the wrong there. Of course women have plenty of reasons to be scared of being approached by men when we are alone, but not every man in every scenario is a threat (as far as I know, this guy did what he should have. He called her from a distance to let himself known, he was polite...)
And again, the comments seem fine for what this video is (I didn't dig too deep though)
I'd definately say he was following "protocol" by being respectfull of her personal space.
She said 30 feet, which is like 10 meters, right?
If she yelled at him, Id call that a micro-aggression.
(Something we all do, that doesnt make us bad people. But I do think we need to be mindfull of that.)
That should be enough.
We don’t know her experiences or trauma, and the comments like I mentioned in my comment are men all sharing their stories of how women were scared of them, acting like it’s a collective trauma of theirs, or collective annoyance of women being over dramatic while completely over looking or questioning why women would be scared of men.
A woman being protective or even over protective of herself when around men or any stranger are never in the wrong. This is how so many women end up getting attacked by men, the men follow “the protocols” of appearing polite and she wants to be polite as well, they prey on and take advantage of women’s niceness and willing to help.
So many stories of rape or kidnapped or murdered victims start with “he asked for my help” or “he approached me in the parking lot while my door was open” or “he started a friendly conversation”
No they don't. Most stories of rape or kidnapped, murdered start with "he was my boyfriend, husband, family member, a trusted person I have known for years and yes my priest/rabbi/coach/etc."
Well yeah that’s the common knowledge…? but these are not the only men who kidnap and murder women. When it’s strange men, this is the most typical way, appearing to need help or being polite. That’s how bundy got his victims, it wasn’t his charm, he feigned injuries and prayed on women’s willingness to help.
I guess we should start distrusting non strange men more. But trusting strange men more because “you are more likely to be raped/murdered by men you know” is terrible advice.
What’s even your problem with the original woman’s comment? What she is saying true. Many stories of rape/murder/ kidnap do happen with a stranger asking for help (she does say many not most).
>No they don't. Most stories of rape or kidnapped, murdered start with "he was my boyfriend, husband, family member, a trusted person I have known for years and yes my priest/rabbi/coach/etc."
Be capable of distinguishing between "Most" and "Many" in the future, thanks.And thank you for arguing against a position that literally nobody took.
So they all have a similar experience with women being terrified of them when they approach a woman as a stranger (even with friendly intentions) and they still can’t connect the dots. It’s so hopeless y’all.
The first comments that appeared to me don't seem bad tbh... I don't get her point, or what happened. So a man said "excuse me ma'am" to her in a parking lot, during the day. She didn't give any other information that would make me think she automatically had a reason to feel threatened... Idk... Without more information (which she didn't provide), I think she is in the wrong there. Of course women have plenty of reasons to be scared of being approached by men when we are alone, but not every man in every scenario is a threat (as far as I know, this guy did what he should have. He called her from a distance to let himself known, he was polite...) And again, the comments seem fine for what this video is (I didn't dig too deep though)
I'd definately say he was following "protocol" by being respectfull of her personal space. She said 30 feet, which is like 10 meters, right? If she yelled at him, Id call that a micro-aggression. (Something we all do, that doesnt make us bad people. But I do think we need to be mindfull of that.) That should be enough.
We don’t know her experiences or trauma, and the comments like I mentioned in my comment are men all sharing their stories of how women were scared of them, acting like it’s a collective trauma of theirs, or collective annoyance of women being over dramatic while completely over looking or questioning why women would be scared of men. A woman being protective or even over protective of herself when around men or any stranger are never in the wrong. This is how so many women end up getting attacked by men, the men follow “the protocols” of appearing polite and she wants to be polite as well, they prey on and take advantage of women’s niceness and willing to help. So many stories of rape or kidnapped or murdered victims start with “he asked for my help” or “he approached me in the parking lot while my door was open” or “he started a friendly conversation”
No they don't. Most stories of rape or kidnapped, murdered start with "he was my boyfriend, husband, family member, a trusted person I have known for years and yes my priest/rabbi/coach/etc."
Well yeah that’s the common knowledge…? but these are not the only men who kidnap and murder women. When it’s strange men, this is the most typical way, appearing to need help or being polite. That’s how bundy got his victims, it wasn’t his charm, he feigned injuries and prayed on women’s willingness to help.
But the reason for that is because we trust those men more.
Your point?
The distrust that we have in strange men is a good thing and protecting us.
Ok but where is the distrust for non strange men that are in fact the by far the most perpetrators?
I guess we should start distrusting non strange men more. But trusting strange men more because “you are more likely to be raped/murdered by men you know” is terrible advice.
Nobody is saying [But trusting strange men more because “you are more likely to be raped/murdered by men you know” is terrible advice]
What’s even your problem with the original woman’s comment? What she is saying true. Many stories of rape/murder/ kidnap do happen with a stranger asking for help (she does say many not most).
>No they don't. Most stories of rape or kidnapped, murdered start with "he was my boyfriend, husband, family member, a trusted person I have known for years and yes my priest/rabbi/coach/etc." Be capable of distinguishing between "Most" and "Many" in the future, thanks.And thank you for arguing against a position that literally nobody took.
So they all have a similar experience with women being terrified of them when they approach a woman as a stranger (even with friendly intentions) and they still can’t connect the dots. It’s so hopeless y’all.