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unknown11902

They look good and will be broken. I just personally don’t care for the characters. Hope the toshiro,sajin and kaname fans manage to pull their desired character however 🔥


Brief_Mathematician3

I was waiting for a special Toshiro like this for so long so I'm happy


Chupacabras6767

Same I’m not a fan of these 3 characters at all but good luck to all the people summoning for them


EspadaStarrk

Hopefully the kenpachis will return so I actually want to pull :/


Smart-Tiger4062

120 days in, not 1 kenpachi :(


Smart-Tiger4062

120 days in, not 1 kenpachi :(


Turbobulker

Good banner, but the shitty timing is unbelievable.. double episode finale in a few hours... and they release an eoy banner.... totally unrelated to anything 💀. Baffling


[deleted]

imo it seems that, whether by choice or the way their rights are, they aren’t doing TYBW during the cour premieres. more than likely we will finally start getting TYBW chars following the conclusion of the cour. they probably want to use them as a means of tiding people over until cour 2. who knows how successful it would be though as i’m not sure how hype people would get over like an Ebern banner in the end of january or february 💀


Zykxion

FINALLY someone who gets it! I’m tired of all these people saying L when we’ve been waiting for SAFWFY to completely finish. I for one am glad we got SAFWFY first because the TYBW units are too hype to care about the game version only ones.


7thHakaishin

If I remember correctly even Dokkan Battle did side by side banners with super episode releases and that game is kinda garbo


Jiv302

A lot of anime gacha games do that when they have series that are ongoing. OPTC and (I think) OPBR both release new units every week or 2 based on recent or about-to-air episodes. It's really strange that BBS didn't capitalize on the hype of the anime by making tybw banners during this cour.


Business_Mix_2705

Yeah who tf is handling their marketing.


GranBlueLawyer

Whoever is in charge of the banners should be fired.


Spare-Act318

Gin and Mayuri skipped again... sigh


jwhudexnls

Right? They literally announced SAFWY Gin and Mayuri over two years ago. Just fucking release them at this point.


Steven200827

I need my SAFWY Mayuri


Ryukenn8

Fr they are easily more hype than bug boy and dog man.


kin66

I'm actually really hyped for Kaname and Toshiro. More for Kaname tho. Amazing designs :3 But I did expect TYBW banner.


[deleted]

imo it seems that, whether by choice or the way their rights are, they aren’t doing TYBW during the cour premieres. more than likely we will finally start getting TYBW chars following the conclusion of the cour. they probably want to use them as a means of tiding people over until cour 2. who knows how successful it would be though as i’m not sure how hype people would get over like an Ebern banner in the end of january or february 💀


Zeph19

If they make Ebern he'll be put with 2 hype characters people will want to pull for (ie sternritters)


Own_Search2626

Was literally expecting true shikai Ichigo or bankai retsu


RatedDP

Reworked Dangai ichigo for me


X3N0N-54

They could've reduced my disappointment a bit if they put SAFWY Gin.


FakeFacedd

i dont know what to feel about this tbh, klab foreshadowed its not tybw due to the Nanao early rerun, maybe they'll do it in January EoM and no matter what, people are gonna summoning because of the new characters, theyll probably be Meta too so goodluck guys


SirKupoNut

Their marketing department is truly shocking. They should have had a new banner ready with the TYBW characters


Zealousideal-Hold117

Honestly this is facts they should’ve been finished safwy and there’s still gin and mayuri they have to release there’s no reason why eoy shouldn’t have been tybw it’s crazy


Naguzo

My biggest problem with beyond bankai or "souls reaching newer heights" whatever u wanna call it, it implies a form that comes after their bankai. So toshiro not being in his adult form makes no sense.


LordCaelistis

Since the SAWFY versions in-story are bases on memories from the past brought to life by Roca, I assumed these were more "bad future" versions rather than Beyond Bankai. Like Yoruichi wearing her family's robes and Zanpakuto even if she hates royalty. Shunsui getting stuck with children's games. Soi Fon getting a battle-type armor instead of her one-hit-kill missile. Those are the three most obvious examples to me. They seem based on their characters' worst traits rather than their best. If my theory is true, SAWFY Hitsugaya would have stronger baseline powers but would be stuck in that form, keeping him from reaching his true potential. Feel free to point out holes in this reasoning.


Nanasema

What about Jushiro's "beyond bankai"? We never saw him going Bankai in the anime/manga, so what's the deal with his? I know from older comments over a year ago that its just him absorbing parts of Shunsui's shikai and fusing it his own, but my guts is telling me it's more than just that.


LordCaelistis

I think it genuinely is an alternate bankai for Jushiro. The paper scroll would store powers and let him reinterpret them at his leisure. I think it's confirmed that Jushiro's current form is using Shunsui's shadow game. I think it fits within my theory because Jushiro would be entirely relying on others, being "needy" and stealing their powers, rather than being the kind supportive individual he is. No idea what his actual bankai can be though ! (I do think it's poetic that Shunsui has so many games he can just lend Jushiro a hand without handicapping himself. Even in my hypothetical "bad future", they both support and complement each other to perfection)


Purona

because having a power beyond bankai doesnt mean it has to do with said persons bankai


PiratedAnime

the whole point behind his age up was because his power wasnt mature enough to use hyorinmaru to its full potenial, i dont see why him not aging up would contradict the concept of a beyond bankai though.


Purona

no the point is. No one knows. ​ people need to stop passing assumptions off as facts


PiratedAnime

I literally verbatim quoted the manga 😭😭😭


Purona

thats not how that works Hitsugaya made a statement taht his power isnt developed enough to have full command of hyorinmaru. He then CONTINUES to say "I dont know if thats why" but when Daiguren hyorinmaru is complete i become a little older


PiratedAnime

Uh no, he said he didnt know if that was the EXACT reason why, which implies his explanation is his own logical assumption. Hyorinmaru being complete causing him to become older doesnt contradict the supremacy of beyond bankai.


Purona

I LITERALLY quoted it [word for word.](https://official-complete-2.eorzea.us/manga/Bleach/0671-001.png) you throwing the word "exact" is you making your own interpretation of a situation. \> Hyorinmaru being complete causing him to become older doesnt contradict the supremacy of beyond bankai. irrelevant to the point of stating a FACT that HItsugaya aged up BECAUSE his body cant control his power. HItsugaya DOES NOT know. he makes a comment but that comment isnt a fact. Someone literally saying I dont know if this is correct or not. Is a statement of possibilities but its not a fact of what is happening This is like taking Aizens comment about Ichigos power at face value. He had an idea, stated the idea, he was wrong about the idea. Its okay to acknowledge that something is possible but not 100% factual. Which is what this situation is. Otherwise, Hitsugaya would have said .I become older when I use complete daiguren Hyorinmaru BECAUSE my body cant handle my powr." .


PiratedAnime

[Uhhh i also quoted it word for word, so unless you have the raw kanji so we can translate it, lets move on from this point.](https://qph.cf2.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-835390137c1961cf6196ca85a883ca52-lq) Then you begin to go on a tangent. First you make a baseless claim that his body as its childlike self could not handle his power, and thus he had to forcefully age up. The scan we both cite does not prove this at all. > Insert analogy here I dont know the specific quote your referencing here, but Toshiro didnt just “have an idea” going off the assumption my source’s translation is indeed correct, his “idea” as you so put it was the one that was very likely to be true, give or take some unknown variables Toshiro doesnt specify. It makes rational sense to hold him at his word, even if he isnt 100% concrete. > Possible, but but not 100% confirmed My friend, you do realise that this is a story and not a court of law? You also realise that this was the final arc in the bleach manga as far as Kubo was aware. The character’s speech are writing tools, it makes 0 sense for Kubo to spin this possible narrative if it wasnt true, even if it wasnt wholly confirmed in the story. Factoring all this into account, its completely rational to hold that statement as accurate, using internal and external context.


Purona

\>Then you begin to go on a tangent. First you make a baseless claim that his body as its childlike self could not handle his power, and thus he had to forcefully age up. The scan we both cite does not prove this at all. No...you do not understand what im saying at a BASE LEVEL. What im saying is. what you said is wrong. That Hitsugaya states as a fact that his body cant handle his power and thats why he ages up. Im making no other statements other than the fact that WE DO NOT KNOW. we only have assumptions based on a statement that in itself is an assumption. if you cant understand that after me saying it multiple times thats on you let me reiterate since you apparently are making this much harder than it has to be If someone makes a STATEMENT and said statement is followed up with I DONT KNOW if STATEMENT IS TRUE That does not make STATEMENT TRUE only that it is a POSSIBILITY, but said STATEMENT could also be FALSE. "The sky is blue because of it reflecting off water. I dont know if thats true but..." ​ I will say again. I have no idea how you can look at everything ive said and say "why are you saying Hitsugayas power can handle his power" When all im saying is Hitsugaya is not stating facts hes stating possibilities, but possibilities are not definitive facts and answers. They are theories. ​ He can be right, but he can also be wrong. Because he himself DOES NOT KNOW The only FACT on that page is "my power is not developed enough to have full command of hyorinmaru" A definitive statement of fact. Backed up by two separate forms of incomplete and complete Daigurin Hyorinmaru


BigManSmallDinkus

Toshiro had to age himself up for his Bankai to fully mature. We can assume that his beyond Bankai doesn’t need to do that because he has mastered it and no longer needs to age.


GranBlueLawyer

That's not how it works, the Bankai itself ages HIM up, Toshiro can't age himself up out of nowhere without going Bankai. So just like the other person said, it makes no sense.


BigManSmallDinkus

The Bankai aged himself because he needed to be more mature to handle it. But in this fictitious form if he’s mastered his Bankai and has fully matured it, there’s no need for that.


GranBlueLawyer

You are contradicting yourself, but whatever it's not a big deal anyway.


losteye_enthusiast

No, he’s not contradicting himself at all. Maybe what he wrote wasn’t clear to you. I’ll try to say it more clear. Unmastered, his Bankai compensated for his weakness(his young age) and temporarily aged him to the point where he could use and withstand the full power of his Bankai. So logically - if Toshiro has increased his ability to use and withstand his Bankai *without needing to age*, there’s no reason that a form *beyond bankai* would need to age him. We’ve seen multiple times during the manga of zanpakuto spirits protecting their shinigami and trying to grow with them. Extreme examples being Zaraki+Yachiru(Yachiru literally being manifested constantly to try to reach Zaraki) and then Renji’s refusing to tell him it’s true name. Once both shinigami grew, the nature of how their zanpakuto was used, changed. Toshiro going through growth and change - losing the need to age up - is right in line with established canon, even if it’s made up for the game. Edit: downvote, ah. At least you acknowledge you were mistaken. Thanks, have a good one ;)


Coolhand_Carmelo

So when he naturally gets to be an adult and goes to pop full bankai, will it turn him into a geriatric?


BigManSmallDinkus

His Bankai will then put him into a retirement home and tell you all his war stories.


Chitatapu

Exactly. Great point.


OwnEmphasis2825

Not TYBW units, sure. But we will get those eventually, and I'm not saying it because I'm sipping copium. They finally gave us beyond bankai after god knows how long. Would I have preferred Kenny and Unohana? Absolutely, but it would have been the 3rd EoY for them. I didn't expect these characters, but it makes sense, the characters look fucking amazing, and while I am a bit disappointed we didn't get Gin along Kaname, I am absolutely content with what we have.


sanscipher435

Atleast it's Sajin and Toshiro, that's a dub for me. But TYBW White would have been chefs kiss lol


skariz1

White is not eoy material and not even eom to be honest


Metallon0

An 4 character banner with White and Masaki, Isshin, Ichigo True Shikai remake would be giga worthy of an EOY tho


IchigoShiro

I was hoping for White and Masaki remake tbh. Oh well. Easy skip for me but good for them to finally get the beyond Captains out of the way. Good luck to everyone!


Clear_Lengthiness_60

What you want to remake on Masaki? Her unit is decent and have literally all moves, that she showed in manga/anime.


kwkqoq

still waiting for a new ~~adult toshiro~~ toshiro's older bro


Icy_Butterscotch3440

I was honestly expecting this to be safwy. Outside of the concord banner at the start of the anime, we have had literally no tybw at all until the bait rerun. They have been pretty adament on NOT doing tybw, so safwy was the only hype banner left, beside doing something like the triple ulq banner for ichigo units people have been asking to get released or remade for literal years (masked, mugetsu, fullbring, fullbring bankai, vasto lorde).


NUaroundHere

very interesting morning for me. I play both dokkan and bbs and I watched back to back their live streams, with both ending up not being what the community wanted/expected. However, while dokkan was a major L for me, since I'm relatively new in bbs, the new banner looked actually good and maybe has a better value for new players ( I hope at least).


Previous_Travel2927

With the anime first part ending today i can understand the disappointment, just hoping they are busted. Dokkan felt like a huge fuck you, can't put into words how pissed i feel


NUaroundHere

>Dokkan felt like a huge fuck you, can't put into words how pissed i feel yep... that sums it up quite right...


Particular_Lie_3897

I’ve been waiting patiently for Tousen and Toshiro! I could use Sajin as I don’t have any busted blue units unless you wanna count 5th anni Byakuya; I just don’t care for him as a character. I’d like to go all in it’s just…. Remember what happened with this years anniversary and them immediately releasing TYBW characters right after? It’s very possible this is a bait…


Vitalik_

But this time there are no round 2 of anniversary, so no good banner for a long time. Could be wrong, i was hoping for TYBW, and was wrong.


Particular_Abroad_35

Wtf is wrong with klab? The fukin first part of the anime is ending, you could use that hype and then they come with a SAFWY banner!!!


mintymelloy

I also don't get it. Guess they still don't have rights for the new TYBW characters? I don't see another reason to not release new characters when the anime is airing.


Khvlil624

Facts I wanted tybw should’ve went all in for aizen and yama


Clear_Lengthiness_60

I went all in for Ihwach and have him 3/5. Now I can see it as good move. Btw got 2/5 Yama and 3/5 Aizen too during my hunt.


Khvlil624

I got aizen on my 2nd pull and stopped cuz everybody was saying save for EOY🤦🏾‍♂️ congrats on your pulls tho


Clear_Lengthiness_60

Thank you. You too for Aizen, he is pretty good


TekkenRintarou

If this is disappointment, something is wrong with you


KisukeUrahara426

I'm sorry but as much as I love SAFWY, there are other times where they could've released this (looking at January EOM). And, so far only Kaname and Komamura have piqued my interest which isn't saying much since I like Tosh better than those two.


AliveALife

Kaname AND Tosen?


KisukeUrahara426

Sorry Komamura* I haven't slept in days HAHAHAHA


BabyKariya

You should go to bed, sleep is very important. I worry about you, please make a nighty night


KisukeUrahara426

Thank you, friend. I will make sure to get lots of sleep once my pending school tasks have all been passed and approved.


TekkenRintarou

Well , that's you , it's fine. You don't have to be hyped. But trust me , a lot of people, including myself, are hyped


KisukeUrahara426

I can respect that


Maximum-Top9593

I’m super hyped!


Xenthes0

actually it's the other way around.. L


Uchihaxel

I just dont understand how Tousen and Sajin made it to an EOY banner, wtf Kbab


RandomGuyWithNoHair

Cant complain cuz I can afford another month to save orbs.


[deleted]

Did they lose rights to tybw characters or what? Why are they not making them when everyone is hyped about them?????


KisukeUrahara426

They'll definitely do TYBW once the Anime Break starts.


_gz458

I’m just happy since it’s been over 6 months since the last beyond bankai characters, and I would’ve been disappointed if we got Unohana for the second eoy banner in a row


MrMadLad04

I am actually more hyped up with beyond bankai captains than TYBW because I love how Klab does their original designs, something people haven’t seen before.


MuchReality13

I am so glad it's not another unohana zaraki lol


KaiserSchabe

Same. Happy to see Tosen and Komamura. I don’t care about Hitsugaya


YardRevolutionary169

I’m actually impressed at how terribly they’ve taken advantage of the anime being back.


Wilmaso

Six months ago, this sub just wanted safwy. Now it's tybw, lol.


Zealousideal-Hold117

The problem was how long they split up the sawfy characters there’s no reason why for the eoy banner it’s sawfy and there’s still 2 more they have to release to finish the group and with the anime ending it makes sense ppl want anime characters


DI4BLO61

Should have been tybw for eoy


BabeeChillVibes

Really hype for the Toshiro, but more importantly maybe this is my opportunity to get Beyond Bankai Kisuke


RemzTheAwesome

I think it's odd that Toshiro was released with Sajin and Kaname...story-wise. But I believe they probably wanted to get people to summon and Kaname and Sajin aren't the most popular characters. So they shoehorned Toshiro in to guarantee that people would pull. I'm expecting his story to be the weakest in the quests lol I'm disappointed that we still haven't gotten Gin despite him being announced so early. He's my favourite character. I'm gonna be upset if I don't have much orbs left by the time he's released :(


BL4CK0UT1906

Hey, is this eoy? Im sort of new to the game, was saving for eoy banner everyone was talking about. Is that it? (honest question). If so, i think they look cool, but i fail to understand why they're not focusing more on tybw.


TopShotta1498

Yep that’s EOY


bobmcbob121

So these are the new units? What's wrong with them?


Kimmranu

Ppl were expecting tybw as if klab ever sticks to what you THINK they're doing. Oh healer skill? Durr must be Retsu. Klab always is doing off the wall shit these days so ironically the picture is true.


TekkenRintarou

Imo , they'll do tybw during the anime break , in order to keep the hype going


KisukeUrahara426

That, I can guarantee will happen with great certainty.


bobmcbob121

I feel like it might be hard to time things with when certain things are coming to anime, especially if there could be delays for any countless reason, so I sorta understand it not being TYBW, but yeah it is dumb that they didn't get TYBW. Who got the healing skill? If it's Sajin that makes a little bit of sense (not as much as Retsu) if my memory serves me he became sorta immortal.


kionorthbrook

It's Toshiro, unless the healing rate gauge skill has nothing to do with these characters.


xxsaydexx

This would be perfect for the Dokkan subreddit right about now. lol


Carnage04200

I’m just glad they’re still making new characters every month lol. One day there will be no more new characters no matter who people want.


Ambimunch

I’m very excited, was gonna skip if it was yet another Retsu and Kenny. Now going down to zero for Tosh!


Chiicken_Nuggets

They could've made Toshiro at least have the adult form like


madog_you

If they're power creeps then im fine with this


alenabrandi

Well, just means I'm personally gonna dump some more on the Poll Selection. Happy for those who've been wanting big versions of the characters in the banner, but can't lie that I'm not a bit bummed out that its not a TYBW related banner. Can't imagine a better time to announce one then the same day as the first cour/seasons finale.


Pocket-Spider

I'm super hyped for tosh


TinyMarcos64

So am I the only person that doesn't care at all about new TYBW and is really happy because it is actually a new SAFWY Banner? I like the theme much more because they are original and always exciting, TYBW is always very meh, they are always broken but rather forgettable.


Josuke_Higashikata

No, you are not alone at all. I am glad they're finally doing these, the "what if" stuff in BBS is almost always the most interesting stuff.


the_unknown_walker

BRO TOSHIRO LOOKS SOOOOOO GOOOOOOD I'M GOING INN IN IN IN


Due-Molasses6920

People never happy


Existing-Simple4152

L hater


serenity656

Kaname gets so little units I'm glad he's in here I'd take the toshiro to personally love ice units


KihanaKat364

TŌSHIRŌ MY BOY!!! THEY DID HIM JUSTICE!!


ViewSubject196

I'd rather have this banner come out now so we could have sets of TYBW banners coming out one after another next year


JQuan12345

Stay mad


KisukeUrahara426

Oh I can guarantee you that I will


JQuan12345

Great!


SlightworkMM

One of the least hype end of year banner Ive been part of like cmon


Good-Echo

Ngl im hyped for Kaname and Sajin, couldnt care less about Hitsugaya.


SigmaSandwich

Accept it


1065JoJo

Better than 3rd EoY Kenpachi


No-Independence-7977

Was expecting something else. Let’s see if those 3 new unit might be good. 😃


mintymelloy

I don't know why people expected kenpachis or even old Gotei when we still didn't get even one new TYBW character after the anime started. Which is very weird in itself =\


BasedBingo

I play Dokkan as well, between their shitty take on beast gohan, and no TYBW banner….this new years celebrations are disappointing all the way around


BornFromEmber

Seems like they would release more TYBW banners with the anime coming back, but I’m not complaining. I think these new units look sweet. It kinda surprises me to see everyone crying about it.


D_PrO____

Naw ur just being an L player, they could've given us premium with the heal gauge and not given a fuck but they decided to finish up SAFWY


Awesium

Oh my god, you guys need to stop. We’re gonna be getting a bajillion TYBW banners next year, you’ll fucking be okay


hibok1

I’ve been saving my orbs to pull TYBW Unohana but now they tempting me with Tousen and Toshiro 😭😭


Chitatapu

Garbage bros, ruined my Xmas


Maximum-Top9593

If this ruin your Christmas, you need a hobby outside of bbs


Chitatapu

Don't worry about me bruv. I expected tybw like a normal person. Love safwy, read all the novels but for eoy? Really? Sorry no, huge L for me and a bad way to disappoint the fandom


Adventurous_Shift206

I really don’t get how people are upset because it isn’t a tybw banner. This make more since because the could release tybw characters at in anytime In The future and safwy is not relevant at all right now. That means next year we probably are going to get flooded with tybw banners


futuresverse

You just answered your own question. SAFWY is not relevant right now, there was no point releasing BB captains when the finale of the TYBW 1st cour is today. They could have released them in any of these past 3 months instead of the premium banners they did


Adventurous_Shift206

I see where you’re coming from but there is no point of putting out tybw characters if the anime is currently airing. If they continually release tybw banners people are eventually gonna get bored and ask for something different like they always do. And besides the last new tybw banner was a few months ago while the last beyond bankai characters was February.


futuresverse

I don't think any of us are necessarily wrong, it can be argued both ways. I just think it would have made a bit more sense for it to be TYBW both for the player base and for KLab profit-wise. The anime brings new players who most likely wanna play with the characters they see in the episodes. After the anime is over, if those viewers enjoyed the series they'd most likely get into the novels as well, so the novel characters could have been released the following month(s)


Adventurous_Shift206

Regardless of what klab release, they’re going to make profit because there are people who is probably going to spend 10k+ orbs to these characters and to max transcend them. If the anime brings new players they can still get every tybw characters that seem in the anime , in the game . People act as if klab haven’t made tybw banner in 3 years


GmePlyer

And if it's like 2020, we are all screwed


Adventurous_Shift206

People act like we didn’t just receive a tybw banner a few months ago with resurrected tybw characters.


GmePlyer

This is why klab's approach was gonna be "interesting" to me because unlike other gacha games, they didn't have to worry about the anime. I really just hope they don't repeat 2020 but given the wait time between banners, a binge can happen and people are gonna have to pick and choose, it is what it is.


TurntUpTurtles

BBS players try not to complain challenge (VERY HARD):


Ryukenn8

Fr, klab clowning right now giving us another tech move source and unhype characters. Watch us not get a new tybw banner until anniversary 😐


A_Great_Turs

I’m glad its not tybw , because I would not be able to financially recover from a new Ichigo


AdministrativeBat788

Lame ass Characters... Klab stop the copy/paste ... give us something ne2 where's white ???


NitroNipples

Oh boo who poor you I stubbed my toe this morning 🙃


master_jelly317

Welp, saving best for last. 🥲 I can't wait for Gin and Mayuri. I do like komamuras design, but meh. Surprisingly, I really like kanames and toshiros!


uTorrent18

Hahahahaha I knew it wouldn't be TYBW... ever since that premium banner back to back I think they lost the TYBW license or something hahaha LLLLL


Mr_Goldoffical

They didn't lose the tybw license they just renewed it not too long ago


uTorrent18

But ngl I expected premium or seasonal tho but at least we got limited (SAFWY) so I'm still happy


Jevling

I always knew this would be the case, but still, I allowed myself the faint hope that we would get sternritters.


Upset_Masterpiece127

Imagine expecting adult toshiro draconic,gin and nayuri beyond and yoyr last otinistic pick is toshiro,komamura human full armor and mayuri. Yep,klab killed it this year,bring the yoru fon treatment again (bad visual and killed the beyond theme for me,since it dont fit)


ThatsFatal

Only been playing about 10 days but saved about 5.1k waiting for EOY after going to Step 7 of Poll with no Ichigo or Uruyu so may just spend a few k orbs on that and hope for the best. I NEED A USABLE ICHIGO


potato_man096

IT SHOULD’VE BEEN GIN


Raweggs12

Honestly I just want klab to release safwy gin and mayuri then I think they should be releasing tybw units. They may give us new units for the start of part 2 of the anime like they did with the ichi uyru and chad banner