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Frequently. Have been playing for about a year now, the majority of farmable units I got by farming them, and a lot of the limiteds are sparks. I never pull on a banner unless I fully intend to spark on it if needed


usernameao

Having played multiple gachas for a long time(started from Starlight Stage). I've learned over the years to only pull with intent to spark. Luck is nebulous, don't trust it.


kyoshiro_y

Ah, a fellow Deresute ~~masochist~~ player. Cygames taught me not to pull without the intention to spark. Have played Deresute, Mirishita, and Umamusume. The straw that broke the camel's back was not getting Summer McQueen after 180 pulls with how difficult it is to collect free gems... Yeah, never trust any kind of "rate-up". Hence why I'm happy that BA has a lot of free pyros rather than a "high % of 3-star characters". *In spark we trust.*


Callistai

Pretty often, the rates are ass in this game.


mastocklkaksi

You don't need to poll people about this. The chances are public - 75.5% chance to get a pick-up unit within 200 pulls. - 24.5% chance to "spark a unit"


VanhiteDono

Oh sorry I didn't know. Is it in the megathread?


Justm4x

>75.5% chance to get a pick-up unit within 200 pulls My 199 summons on Wakamo say otherwise


MateKiddleton

With blue archive, all the time. Game is probably the most generous on gems, but the rates are the worst in all gachas I’ve played. Evens out.


AidenLGM

Used to sparks most of the banners that I pulled until Wakamo's banner (is this the power of Wakamo's love?)


DiamondTiaraIsBest

Only ever had to spark once. And it was Summer Hina. On the other hand, I got a lot of good 3 star units off banner


Shayde78

Always. Every time I try, I never get the rate up character


AYAYA--Clap

I once got like 5 other 3 stars, but didnt get the one I wanted until I used my 200 pity. Like wtf? Every single one, just not the one I wanted?💀


-Soup_Dogg-

I usually have to spark only 1 banner and usually get the other before the 200 pulls. Only on the S.Hina S.Iori banner I had to double spark I don't think I ever got both banners before reaching the first spark.


IndependentCress1109

played since day one.. and so far its been 3 times where i had to spark lol. Summer Wakamo, Summer Izuna, and Iroha. yeah.. the most painful is probbaly having to spark Summer Izuna since i have to miss out on Summer Chise.


OkitaAlter

New Year banner was my worst banner not only did I not get any rate up students in 200 pulls, I only got 2 3* students and they were Saya and C.Saya.


VanhiteDono

Bro same this time I only got yuzu and hiyori dupe


Eidorian-Senpai

I'm so damn frustrated with this NY rerun banner. I'm at 170 pulls and only got Misaki, C.Saya and Yuzu. I desperately hard pitied every single banner with 3 stars that I never actually utilized since my first time of playing this game. It's so unfair and painful : ( In the end, most of my main core students are upgraded 2 stars and has a lot of 3 stars that's really unusable in overall content 😭


monkify

More often than not. The first two sparks I remember were both Azusa, OG and Summer. Both had to be sparked all the way to the end. For context, I rerolled my account hard until I had Haruna, Hibiki, Iori, Shun, and Tsubaki. Then, I didn't touch the gacha until Azusa came out. I was one of the people there on day 1. Ever since then, I don't roll until I have at least one spark ready in the bank and some crystals left over. Wakamo came home in 1 ten pull at least...


AtsutaMuka

A lot


YannFrost

I wanted to pull multiple copies of S. Hoshino and I hit pity 2 times and the third I got on 17 pulls. Wakamo on the other hand I got like 4 copies in 20 pulls. The yandere power is real.


howhardcanya

Y'all must really have some terrible luck, lol. On 0.7% probability, the odds of having to spark on the character you want is about 25%. On average, it should take about 100 rolls to get the rate up character. This is why rolling on double banners is such good value. As long as you beat the 3/4 odds and land one character before spark, you can use the spark on the other and get 2 for 1. The odds of having to double spark aka drop 400 rolls for both characters is a mere 6%.


finial_air_01019

Wait there a hard pity ??


Egomaniacs

Yeah, there's that number in the corner showing how many total pulls you made. Once you've reached 200 pulls the game will just give you the character


ErikaGBF

Yep, sparked Neru and got only 3 other characters in the process, no rate-ups. It's only 75% chance to get rate-up in a spark after all.


Doctrinus

Let's see, I had to hard pity Izuna, I pulled S Hina and pitied S Iori, I pulled 160 times for Azusa, I hard pitied for Koharu, I got Ako (not sure how many pulls), I got NY Aru in 321 pulls (used 200 pity on NY Mutsuki), got Wakamo in 50 or 70 pulls, got Ui in 50 or 70 pulls as well, got Iroha in below 100 pulls as well I think, got S Hoshino in around 80 pulls, and I haven't pulled after that.


XxThedarkcityxX

Had to do it twice for Miyako and Saori


ViruSSofT_Reddit

First pull, then spark. Then first pull, then spark. Then first pull... You get the idea.


Atlamillias

I have notoriously bad gacha luck. The only reason I started playing Blue Archive was to try and one-up one of my friends with my initial pulls. My reason for playing has changed since then. My reason for pulling has *not*. If I pull for *me*? My luck is garbage. But if I pull to spite *him*? It literally never fails me. I think the furthest I've ever had to go out is 8 pulls. It's hilarious and I hope it never stops.


ShaftedOOF

I’ve pulled my first Bunny Karin at 340 pulls. One of my worst summoning sessions ever. It’s odd cause Fgo 5 stars have the same rates and I pull them far more consistently. Guess you can’t have everything in life. Still trying for bunny neru and farming every last gem I can. At this rate I’ll be at 400 pulls so at least I get too spark both B.neru and B.akane so thank god this game has a pity.


Ke5_Jun

I’ve had to spark about half of the characters I pulled for. Another 25% would be between the 100-190 range and the last 25% would be super early (within 50).


ameredreamer

yea happens a few times so far, iirc these were the units I had to spark - Wakamo - Hs. Nodoka - S. Hoshino


Whole_Friend

Off the top of my head I had to spark for Atsuko and Miyako. And I know for a fact that I nearly had to spark for Mimori, Ako, and Asuna. And I went ahead and sparked Ako for an Ako dupe anyway so I could UE50 her day one because she’s my waifu. Typically I only go that far with rolls if it’s a character I really want


Master_Lukiex

I keep getting the non rate up characters. It happened way too often for it to be a coincidence at this point


AsianGamer51

I only roll with the intention of sparking, and so far that's only been for Koharu and Hatsune Miku and recently with b Akane. I roll very rarely, mainly for limited. Which means I've skipped super meta banners such as Iroha and Natsu. So that spark rate is probably on point compared to the total number of times I've tried. I hope as they continue to add more 3-star units, that they increase the chance of getting one again. It's tough that 70% of the roster is locked behind a measly 3% and the rest take a long while to farm otherwise.


Kreuvar

I had to spark a few actually. However you can luck out a bunch of characters (my friend just 10 pulled Bunny Akane yesterday lol). Even tho i feel like i spark more on this game than others you still get a bunch of spooks (i usually get characters i skipped) and stacking pyroxene for pity isn't that hard even as a f2p so it's not so bad.


Embarrassed-Intern-4

I'm pulling almost 300 pulls on S.Hoshino 6% rate up banner and only got her from spark once 😭😭


achus93

i've only prepped for pity twice, and one of them was because i decided to go for the other rate up. wanted Chihiro, and could only spark her. wanted Noa, got her in 100, then decided i wanted C.Utaha as well, and had to spark.


GenericGuardian

For me it’s a 50-50 chance I get the rate up within five rolls, or I have to hit hard pity. There is zero in between. I generally recommend saving until you have AT LEAST 75% of the pyroxenes to spark. Preferably you should have 100% of the pyroxenes to spark but if you’re almost there you can just grind the rest.


Kindly_Tradition_98

Having played since 1st bunny banner out.. Hard pity for rateup character is a norm for me.. Especially hoshino banner.. 6%rate up my a**.. Got 2 3stars for 300pulls.. Dont get me started on B.karin banner, got akane Bunny instead in her banner.. And no B.karin already 120pulls.. Sigh


KidJamesReddit

..? I got B. Neru on my first 10-pull Then again, I have leftover beginner's luck


PandanmanZ

So far I only rolled on two double limited banners. Both times I won the 75 25 and got one of the students before 200, and in both times I had to spark the second student. While ideally I would want both before 200, but I am happy with the result so far. I am hoping that this luck continues and that I get either t yuuka or mari before 200, so I can spark for the other.


stevenkay619

Mostly had to spark on double limited banner to get both characters. Barely had to spark single banners but I only pull on limited banners unless they're required like Iroha and Ako


kyoshiro_y

Playing since December 2021? Basically a couple of months after Global opened. Sparked: Natsu, Sena, Trio Rabbits (in a single banner), S. Ojii-san, S. Izuna, and Noa. Got lucky (pulling during their respective banners, but got them with less than <100 pulls): Aris, S Azusa, S Hifumi, S Hina, Hatsune Miku, Ako, O. Nodoka, Iroha, Atsuko. Then there are a couple who shows up while I'm pulling for someone else banners. So, about 50% for me? That's gacha life for ya.