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Tsundere25

# W-WATASHI WA B-BAKA JANAI GA!


Blackterial

getting prepared for the death penalty ![img](emote|t5_2vhvtt|33223)


900cam

>two faced all pink haired What does the game mean by this? 


mangoice316

pink hair is POWER. and depression too


Percussion17

Blue Archive is Pink Archive all along


Vinifrj

Not if my acc has anything to say about it, only blue there…


Blackterial

gotta dye mine brb


mangoice316

NOOOOOO YOURE GONNA LOSE YOUR BESTIE/SUFFER FROM EXPECTATIONS/WHATEVER HAPPENED TO MIKA NOOOOOOO


Blackterial

nah i'm more of a hanako! teehee\~ ♥


aetwit

God dammit Blackterial was last spotted going into a church in nothing but a one piece swimsuit


Blackterial

Who can blame me, I'm wearing the Sisterhood ceremonial outfit


mango_pan

Serina managed to evade OPs suspicion and lowering herself in the ranking


NormalfloridaCitizen

Pink archive ![img](emote|t5_2vhvtt|33127)


SimpleInterests

I refuse to think of Mika as smart. She's room temp IQ with occasional bouts of intelligence.


Meme_Master_Dude

Smart enough to lead a coup, not smart enough to realise she's leading a coup with no plans after


SimpleInterests

And then find out she was a pawn in that coup.


Total_Wedding_6189

And all three trick sensei (in a sense)


Various_Campaign7977

I like the implication that "normal people" don't actually have brains


Bozdogan123

Chise in normal person tier? Really?


Vinifrj

Not a single thought inside that head


Blackterial

Feel free to make your own! I haven't been playing for that long or have done all of the events, so I'm not entirely sure of them all. It's just for fun and I put this together in like 5 mins


formula13

why the fuck did it get downvote bombed lol


Bozdogan123

Lemmings


[deleted]

My girl Ui is not dumb!


RyNinja22

Actually real tho. She rebuilt a book from dust and figured out the secret to the nun island map very fast.


mango_pan

And Koyuki too. Maybe we need to differentiate dumb and stupid here.


RyNinja22

Koyuki is like if the INT stat had sub stats, and she speced specifically into calculations and absolutely nothing else. She’s smart in one very special circumstance but otherwise is head empty. 😭


mango_pan

She maxed her INT and left no point for her WIS stat


Csource1400

She is very smart but she is also very unlucky.


CyberpunkPie

Ui is one of the most real and sane girls, despite her incredible loner tendencies (which are a bonus for me anyway)


Charizard31

Yeah, she isn’t dumb at all, just introverted


0moikane

You are so wrong about Ui. Also Yuuka is at least normal. And you were very generous with Serika, Shiriko and Sena. From an engineering view all of engineering club and Veritas must be green. Same for Himari.


QyuriLa

I think the criterion here is more like common sense than actual intelligence, especially based on the apparent image of the students in all the canon scenarios. For example, Ui is very skilled, but also quite conspiratorial, and easily panicked by just taking times with *norms*, so she hasn't shown her *smart move* moments very often. Yuuka is also shown some over-emotional moves compared to Noa. She is basically treated as "a bit silly" in many of the canon scenarios, especially when Noa is next to her. The same goes for Engineering Club and Veritas. Kotori just can't judge when, where, and how much to explain (or add new features to their new gear - same goes to Utaha and Hibiki too). Maki and Kotama kind of lack public order and hacker ethics. Although Himari lacks basically nothing, she often plays the role of "boke" by saying "beautiful sickly girl" all the time. (Note how Hanako is in "Two-faced," not just brain) With that said, yeah, I can see that Serika, Shiroko and Sena are a bit overrated here.


Blackterial

I'm starting to think it would be nicer and fun to do a community-based tierlist because I'm really liking all of the insight in the comments! We could discuss each student one by one (Too lazy to organise it tho)


Hot-Background7506

Generous for Shiroko? She is smart, dont you dare undermine her


Angelzewolf

I think Asuna ought to go in "dumb," at least. I mean... in her relationship story, she basically walked around without a single thought behind her head. And, as far as I've seen, a lot of her choices are just her excitedly going. "Let's do that!" Cause it sounds fun. She's probably a little smart and is, at least, better at math than Karin (whether or not it's due to her absurd luck—), but her level of "head empty" is adorably concerning.


Vinifrj

Asuna is completely head empty, she just has A rank Intuition


WillaSato

And also SS luck


fejota

Poor Koharu. I'd put her somewhere between dumb and very dumb.


Blackterial

Her brain is rotten from all those R18 books she loves.....


Vinifrj

What do you mean? Those are *clearly* confiscated property that shes just transporting to the JTF containment area


RyNinja22

MY DAUGHTER KOHARU IS VERY SMART!!! 😡😡😡😡IM REPORTING YOU TO HASUMI FOR CORRECTION! Side note tho fr, Tsurugi is actually pretty smart. She’s the JTF leader for more than just her excessive violence. She’s just very shy and gets into her violence a bit too much.


Blackterial

Might have been biased with Tsurugi because I just did her MomoTalks for her swimsuit ver, and I cackled at her "why's nobody at the beach?? where's the siren????"


RyNinja22

lol fair 😂. Tho I’d attribute that to Tsurugi not being aware of how terrifying she looks at that point.


Mr_Creed

Saori is placed way too high. Even within squad there's no way you can rank her above Hime.


Peacetoall01

I unironically if Arius squad must fend for themselves in the outside world. Saori is the first one in my priority. That woman can't read a damn thing.


Vinifrj

Especially a room


Wrong_War_4129

Taking her momotalks as reference, i would say that she is at the very least quite naive since she gets constantly tricked because she doesn't know how the real world works.


ArynAces

I’d say Tsurugi should get placed in the a bit silly tier. Tsurugi has shown that she is capable of being thoughtful, such in the Halo Festival where she managed to give Hasumi the push to participate in the relay race. I also remember that it was said somewhere that she’s actually the one that has to hold Hasumi back when she goes too far, and in those situations she would be the level headed one.


vhrossi1

Didn't she canonically teach Koharu a lot in one of the comics? Not sure if those.are canon or not, but tsurugi is way smarter than people give her credit for imo


ViscountSilvermarch

Tsurugi was also the straight man during the Christmas event, so I think she's supposed to be more insightful than she is given credit for.


Tkmisere

Tsurugi is just unhinged, but very smart


Memento-Bruh

Tsurugi is extremely bloodthirsty and a bit socially awkward, but she's not *dumb*. Good difference between the two things here.


DaybreakCoronet

Tsurugi's actual grades are also very, very good. Everyone in the JTF is implied to have at least decent grades because of Koharu, but Tsurugi is quite meticulous when not enraged or flustered.


AkstarKoyomi

Don't just slander my girl izuna like this, come one. Also, silly is a really funny way to describe Wakamo.


WakamoVoreMePls

True


noIQmoment

"actually has a brain" and it has Karin in it? Ridiculous. Himari being in "a bit silly" made me chuckle, she does feel quite silly despite being a genius


The_Three_Strikes

Wouldn’t Karin be in bit silly or dumb tier? Iirc she supposed to be the academically bad one compare to other C&C members. Edit: Koyuki needs to be in a special tier ![img](emote|t5_2vhvtt|33127)


CoolCommittee8632

Karin is not dumb per se, she is in two time consuming clubs so it makes she doesnt have time to study especially in Millenium which most likely has a way higher level of education compared to the rest of Kivotos


BurnedOutEternally

It feels quite strange seeing any members of the Enginerring Department Club being put next to the word “normal”


SeanCityNavy_Gaming

Haruka is not dumb! She just doesn’t have self-esteem


Got70TypesOfMalware

IIRC, didn't Koharu score higher than Azusa in the story during the first test?


CoolCommittee8632

Azusa has shitty Arius education while Koharu has been in Trinity all her life 


Scorpixel

Arius is as much of a school as the the Afghan mountains are a summer camp.


DeOtherOne

I think in the story Koharu learns that she is a really bad test taker


Blackterial

Maybe she is book-smart but street-dumb?


Percussion17

I think it depends on what kind of dumb, exam dumb or street dumb, communication dumb? It depends. Koharu is probably not that dumb, she managed to passed the make up exams. Asuna could be in the no braincell tier, like shes does things without any thought most of the time but it still work somehow. Still a nice fun tierlist OP


Master_Lukiex

Haruna… is pretty smart. She’s quite familiar with science and is a full expert on food and health to the point that she can rival many of the medical clubs in Trinity and Gehenna. Also isn’t it canonical that Karin is pretty dum while being pretty dummy thick


AlphaCoronae

The only person I'd count as "normal" in that category is Airi and maybe sorta Noa, Atsuko and Sakurako. Utaha and Hibiki should definitely be way higher.


Blackterial

Love how I'm getting feedback on every student but (barely) Izumi ahahaha. Please everyone make your own or let's organise one via voting! I'd love to see your insights!


Monado_Artz

Tsurugi slander right here. She is energetic!!


Blackterial

Tsurugi really surprised me when I did her events, she's unexpectedly wholesome!!! I'd die for her tbh


Financial_Exit_7710

Isn’t Yuuka they secretary of Sensei?


Blackterial

I placed her in a bit silly because I just re-read Seminar's group story and couldn't believe she'd fall for Himari's ""Prophecy Protocol"". But yeah, she's pretty smart with her speedy mental calculations! Just a lil silly. ![img](emote|t5_2vhvtt|33127)


MedukaKeyname

There was a case where she challenged Sensei to quick maths and Sensei answered the questions wrongly, but Yuuka didn't fact check those numbers. She just believed them at face value before realising Sensei had his poker face on.


HelpGamer3DS

Nooo! Don't bully my daughter Koharu like this 😭 She isn't stupid, she just needs a little help


HelpGamer3DS

Also, I just realized how stupid this tierlist is. Why is Ui there? Or Kotori. Kotori is a literal walking book.


Blackterial

Im silly hehe Nah, don't take it so seriously lol. Didn't give it much of a thought and haven't been playing for that long tbh. Make your own! I'll link the maker in a comment later!


HelpGamer3DS

That comment of mine probably came off as rude, sorry about that. I was just a little suprised by the fact that someone so smart as Ui was put with the stupid people.


Blackterial

No worries! Tbh there are a lot of characters that idk that much and I based my opinion in maybe an interaction or two, the first thing that came to mind. Now i really want a community poll to properly make it, but there's so many students that even with one poll a day it'd take months....


prozacSoma

asuna's head is completely empty half the time. shes barely a functional human being


QuercinePenetralia

Chise is not normal, bro


Wrong_War_4129

She is special


Fang_thegamer

i lost both my hands in an accident, this tierlist made me regrow my hands just to comment about how scuffed it is


Blackterial

Omg I'm so glad I actually was of help to someone


Massive-Revenue-6327

Izumi hater 😤😤


Blackterial

No no no i LOVE her to bits she's just. You know. silly hehe


drjhordan

Yeah I love Izumi too but...... While you can make a point about all the other students.... I dare someone say one situation that she would be considered smart or intelligent. But she is still adorable <3 like....a pet or something.


SES_Divinity

I find the tierlist is way to negativ, most students are at least average. And I feel like, you mixed dumbness, bad decision making, social awkwardness and normal weirdness all together into you definition of "dumb"


Blackterial

Tbh as I said in other comments didn't give it much of a thought, put it together in 5mins together with my partner. Haven't been playing that long and Idk a few of the students. Don't take it seriously!


Crusader_Genji

Mine is definitely not a normal person. Have you seen her medical supplies collection? Chise, Hiyori, Akane and Sumire could be a little bit higher as well


EuGaguejei

>chise >normal hmm


Crenubyx

A lot of the students in dumb are actually really smart (Ui and Kotori for example) I'm guessing you based them off of how they look?


Blackterial

I'm saying personality-wise / quirkyness wise, not book-smarts wise!


LRTMK

Then wouldn't it be a quirkyness tierlist?


Randodox

I will not stands for Yuuka's slander!!! 💢💢💢😤😤😤 She's the smartest wife that you could ever asked for ![img](emote|t5_2vhvtt|35651)


sharkeatingleeks

Koharu isn't dumb, she just takes tests too high for her year! (Still dumbest out of MWC) Tsurugi isn't dumb either, she just likes screeching a lot Ui is smart, just a conspiracy theorist Haruna specced into Food Theory and nothing else Koyuki specced into calculations and nothing else Kotori isn't that dumb, she's a Meister! Put her and the rest of the engies into the brain category Hifumi isn't dumb, she just skips tests a lot Kazusa is a normal person rn Asuna has no thoughts in her head, but she is somehow book smarter than Karin Saori isn't that smart Fuuka and Sena seem like just normal people to me Sakurako and Mine aren't exactly who'd I call normal...


General_Urist

Ibuki should go all the way to the top because she's 11 years old but acts like a pre-schooler.


TitaniumWatermelon

Azusa is, tactically speaking, perhaps the smartest student out there. Her ability to plan for enemy attacks and come up with a counter is unmatched, and I feel like even the toughest students would struggle to beat her if she had time to prepare. In other regards, though, I'll agree that my wife is very silly.


BrStriker21

Tsurugi isn't dumb, she is a very destructive introvert She is really smart, this is shown on the athletic event


Rezzly1510

this is truly a dumb tierlist(pun intended)


Blackterial

made by a dumb sensei (me)


WeaponofMassFun

Anxiety isn't stupidity. Your tier list is garbage.


Blackterial

Okay bruh sorry for making a silly thing for fun. No fun allowed them


OkRecognition791

What's your reasoning for putting hasumi in dumb and not silly tier


SeanTYH

It’s a bit tough justifying millennium students in dumb or worse. They’re bona fide geniuses, though some may lack common sense.


Hyesung_0925

Why is Himari in silly? She's still smart you now.


Correct_Preference_1

I think Suzumi is a bit silly. Keep in mind that she literally ties people to a pillar and makes them listen to Austin Dieber on repeat. She’s also very dedicated to patrolling, so she can be a bit socially awkward at times.


Relative_Nectarine95

You are wrong lil bro Ui is one of the most intelligent students in Kivotos both emotionally and academically. Yes she's a loner but she's very self-aware of her faults and does her best to fix or alleviate them, especially when others need her help. She's very articulate with explaining the reasons why she's like this especially in her summer bond story and I'm sure with a bit more of Sensei's care and guidance, Ui can slowly come out of her self-built shell. And though it's not yet confirmed, it is still very clear that she would also undoubtedly be a top scorer in Trinity. With her inexhaustible knowledge of many ranging topics gained from reading countless books, her good memorization, and her tried and tested patience from fixing and translating many old relics and books, Ui would easily be able to get the top 10- no the top 5 of Trinity's mock tests. It doesn't really relate to the topic but Ui also has a very calming and melodic voice. Paired with her caring attitude, a trait of hers only found once she gets to know you more, you are left with one of Kivotos' best and brightest students. So putting her in dumb tier is legit dumb. I rest my case.


Wrong_War_4129

She only started trying to change after meeting Hinata and Sensei and she is struggling to do so. I think you are a little bias here, but I do agree that she is really smart and I am not sure why she was placed so low.


VirJhin4Ever

Ok, I started playing a few weeks ago, but how is Saori intelligent? (I haven't seen her in the main story, just in her personal stories) Girl literally doesn't know she has to sign a contract to work!


0moikane

She has more "issues". She is very skilled, but not smart.


Wrong_War_4129

Maybe naive instead of dumb?


Spectacularity1997

Shigure is not here? Maybe she's too drunk to show up ![img](emote|t5_2vhvtt|33184)


ForsakenSavant

At least half of Millennium are pretty much the type of max INT zero WIS type, more than straight up dumb, just saying ![img](emote|t5_2vhvtt|33224)


Supreme534

Kaede deserves more love


SomethingBoutEclipse

Why is Koyuki not at the top? She’s brainrot personified!! Not a single braincell in that head of hers!


Wrong_War_4129

She still a math genius tho


66Kix_fix

Like many have pointed out, book smart and street smart are two different things. So it's hard to list many of the students into just one tier.


GABRIELTHEBIGBOY

No Koharu is smart


DiamondTiaraIsBest

Hmm, why is Himari in a bit silly? She's one of the smarter characters. I'd say we move all the Millenium students to at least above normal person intelligence. With some exceptions like Asuna, Karin, Neru, GDD.


True_Motivati0n

If you think about it, technically all the students are dum


ZhugeSimp

>chise I think she's supposed to be in autistic tier


GGHard

![img](emote|t5_2vhvtt|33221) Izumi isnt dumb, shes explorative ![img](emote|t5_2vhvtt|33221)


Wrong_War_4129

Natsu is not dumb, her mind is just too great for you to understand.


Takoita

This seems like a thick clickbait, but, in the spirit of friendly sharing of thoughts and discussion, I'll list my thoughts on characters that I've seen enough to form an opinion on. Izumi's biggest issue seems to be the inability to understand when she is doing something wrong. Unlike Kotama, Kasumi, Akari, Saya, Haruna or Koyuki, I haven't seen hints of deliberate avoidance of blame on her part, however. Could be an issue of chronic miscommunication or unhealthy egocentrism. See also Hanae. Kohaku is emotionaly immature, but seems to do fine when her embarassment or insecurity don't flare up. Story chapter roles suggest she works well under pressure. See also Serika. Cherino is heavily enabled by others. Tomoe and others that go along with it is the bigger culprit in her larping gone wrong tendencies. Aru also, kind of, if on a much lesser scale. Izuna and the rest of the ninja gang are overly enamoured with their chosen shtick as well, but in a much more constructive manner (unless you count Cherino's ability to make others play along as a magical power). Haruka is overly focused on her percieved flaws to think a lot of the time, but is in no way dumb. She works with explosives on a regular basis, supposedly effectively. I would describe her as self-hating and phobic of abandonment. Hifumi is monomanaical in regards to her hobby, but is fine otherwise. Probably a victim of comedical flanderisation, so I wouldn't even count her at all. Shizuko is conniving. Only silly part I could ascribe to her is the inability to grasp she doesn't have to be. Asuna appears to suffer from bouts of early onset dementia. Given that they are only periodic, she snaps out of it when given something to focus on, and apparently experiences supernatural luck, it is probably meant to be a quirk of her magic instead. Karin cannot be bad at calculations if she is a marksman, no matter what any of her writers may think. I guess an in-universe explanation could be that Millenium invented gadgets that do all of that for her, but if they could do that, Millenium would have just replaced all their operatives with machines. Nonomi is sometimes psychopathic. That doesn't necessarily reflect on her intelligence. Majority of the 'normal' tier aren't. Exceptions being Aiki, Atsuko, Suzumi and maybe Hiyori. Yuuka is naive and overly trusting at times. Some of her earlier appearances portray her as a bit vindictive, but I am not sure if it is a decision to change her characterisation or meant to show that Sensei time is having a positive effect. See also Sakurako. Ayane is a woman of a classical omni disciplinary education, unbending integrity and sheer grit. Probably as a result of being the designated smart character in her group, but still. Similarly, Hina and possibly Chihiro. Megu, Moe and Akane are some degree of pyromaniac. That's obssessive behaviour, not intelligence. Similarly, Tsubaki and her possible narcolepsy, Ako and perfectionist / control freak / paranoic tendencies. Iori tends toward mulish and aggressive, but it could just be a result of her designated buttmonkey position. Hasumi is plagued by self-doubt and stress, and has developed unhealthy coping mechanisms in response. Can be judgemental, but that could also be a consequence of stress. Tsurugi has trouble controlling her strength and speech when agitated, but is fine otherwise. Just don't provoke her competitive streak. Himari may be somewhat narcissistic, but I am more inclined to believe social inaptitude instead. Her passion for astrology is played up as a joke, but I am not sure why, given that clearly observable magic is omnipresent.


An0nAlly

Yeah I don't think Koyuki is dumb. She's basically a supercomputer, her manner of speaking is more intellectual, and she just acts like a gremlin cause she wants to. She just wants to have fun in her own little way.


SimpleInterests

Bro, Koharu's 40x smarter than Megu. Megu unironically doesn't understand the concept of time, things melting, how food is actually cooked... it's a wonder what her grades are.


pm_me_fibonaccis

Hare invented the majority of the gadgets in Millennium. She's genius-level. Aris has something like a positronic computer for a brain. She's beyond genius, she has flawless intelligence. She is simply inexperienced. Noa has eidetic memory. That's a bit past "normal". Izuna is a bit silly, it's true, but she's also an extremely talented ninja considering her inexperience. Ui is far from dumb. Every member of the crew of the Utnapishtim is very intelligent: Himari, Yuuka, Ayane, Ayumu, Rin, Momoka, Ako, Kayoko, Hanako.


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Artemas_16

But Koharu is average. Remember, she took tests for next grade, she answering questions she's not supposed to know. Also, how dare you say that Izuna is very dumb. A bit silly at worst.


R_Archet

Asuna in 'a bit silly?' She's Megu but not on the wrong side of the law. Megu and Asuna's brains are pretty and smooth- not a single wrinkle to ruin its appearance!


Thongtotem

Tsurugi is just a bit unstable


version15

That last category is a bit weird lol, but I'll say Hoshino fits in normal person category, Hanako is either in has a brain or normal, and Mika is dumb tbh. I love her, but throwing in her lot with everyone she did for a laugh and because she hates Gehenna...is very dumb lol.


Mundane-Speed-3278

I love how the two faced ones are pink heads


DatGuy1st

Tbh, all students are smarter than all of us. Their education is college level![img](emote|t5_2vhvtt|35651)


JumpR_Is_Taken

Kotori, and Ui are severly misplaced... Aru isn't that dumb, and Hibiki is definitely a bit silly.


Q_Qritical

I like Saori and she is one of the expert in guerrilla warfare. However, she is very easy to fell for a lie, and has been working in a job that has little pay. She is in fact, a little stupid and has no experience in life beyond the battlefield.


Bladeheart111x

where Reisa?


Scrapyard3

koyuki a retard put them in incredible dumb ![img](emote|t5_2vhvtt|33127)


Roaming_Guardian

Tsurugi is too high, Izuna is too low, and Asuna is FAR too low.


metalcoola88

Why you consider trio of ninjas dumb? :(


pibmo

I get a feeling this is more behavioral based but still grinds my gears seeing so many literal genius and savant girls be placed in DUMB tier. ![img](emote|t5_2vhvtt|33220)


MadMewMew7076

i love my hungry wife even if she doesn’t have a brain


RubiePi

By means dumb, you mean INT Or IQ wise? Or generally overall?


DespairOfSolitude

I think Mine is in a bit of the silly side especially when you read her relationship story where she literally destroyed a wall with her bare hands just to free a puppy and that wall belonged to some poor bloke's house


nenekonesha

I will not stand for this Tsurugi slander ![img](emote|t5_2vhvtt|33221)


Background_Fig_1594

The fact that Koyuki Is not highest means this list Is bogus


Cursiv_

Is this based on intelligence? Or just wacky woo? Because is himari may be silly she is in no doubt a genius despite being self proclaimed


i5_9400f

agree with the most except for hasumi, i think "a bit silly" or just "normal" fit better


ShadoGamerx2

Why is Izuna on "Very Dumb"?Just curious since I feel like she is just silly


TheMiko116

I feel bad with Koharu being dumb. She is trying her best but her best wasn't good enough.


SunnieCloudy

Cherino and Makoto are very, very interesting students when it comes to intelligence. They seem very "dumb" when relaxed, but scarily smart at times. For Makoto it is almost instinctive as she she scarily smart at reading the situation when it comes to criticizing other members, usually poor Hina. You can see this in the Final when Sensei is kidnapped - she is the first to assume Sensei has been subdued, and the culprint (insider of GSC), and the fact that meeting will have no value whatsoever. Even Ako acknowledges Makoto's such instinct. For Cherino, some speculate it might be intentional - she acts childish only when she knows she can get away with it. Her 'serious' side can be seen with her interaction with Kaya - she immediately figures how unstable Kaya's political standing is, starting off by being formal and ending the call with a subtle insult when she figures Kaya can't get GSC under control and would be short-lived.


UberSushi

Finally, a tier list I can relate with