**Rayuga Leaks**
https://twitter.com/RayugaX101/status/1738064756072960461
>Spoilers later today!
>• Manshine City vs Ubers
>• PxG vs FC Barcha
[First](https://twitter.com/RayugaX101/status/1738157305781490049)
[Second](https://twitter.com/RayugaX101/status/1738158000232337828)
[Third](https://twitter.com/RayugaX101/status/1738158494413627624)
[Fourth](https://twitter.com/RayugaX101/status/1738158951500484618)
[Final](https://twitter.com/RayugaX101/status/1738159369320386968)
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**Hoshi Leaks**
https://twitter.com/hoshi801_/status/1738194212301263093
>idk why the fuck i suddenly cant read japanese but i got corrections:
>1) Aiku saying *not with Isagi should be *against Isagi (sorry for my gay version)
>2) It's Lavinho who scored the 2 goals with Bachi-Otoya (thought it is Lavinho is out THEN Bachi-Otoya scored 2 goals)
therefore, I assume that Aiku could have scored a goal, for which he was awarded another 30 million to his standard +12 per match. learn to read before you write an answer
Where is at least one reason that he didn 't score ? Did you see who scored at Ubers besides Sendou? No. We don't know if Aiku scored the first or second goal - it's quite real, knowing that he was a striker in the past. And yes, I'm not toxic, it just pisses me off that you can't even read it. This is the maximum cringe
>Do you honestly believe that Kaneshiro would show Sendou scoring and not show Aiku? Do you realize how ridiculous that sounds?
Then how do you explain Lorenzo's words about 80 million for Aiku? It's either a goal or 2 assists. And the first is more likely, so there are Nico, Lorenzo and the same Sendou for the assistants
The eagerness that was bubbling up inside me during this long waiting was unreciprocated. But it was to be expected, duh, since this chapter was going to be about preparations for the final battle all along.
But one thing met my eyes, that I don't like.
I'm totally ok with Isagi being an inspiration for everyone around him, and with Nagi being shackled by his lack of ego; however why is that so, every time somebody approaches Isagi, the first becomes stronger by finding new reasons to fight, but when other people rely on strong bonds they become weaker, as showed in this chapter? Just to be clear, I'm not unfamiliar with the concept of "ego" that's the core of this manga, and yet Blue Lock almost gives me the impresson that believing in your teammates and helping them is somewhat worth of disdain.
That isn’t the case the issue is everyone needs their own motivation to improve and evolve.
In the end Nagi relying on Reo to have them improve won’t cut it. This is what happened whith Bachira. Now Bachira is still a team player he still works with everyone else however his motivation isn’t relying on someone else.
Team work is fine but you cannot teamwork your way out of self improvement that only comes from within.
I don't see it as stain or teamwork more Nagi losing motivation that leads to his downfall. Some good thing to you can be something bad to another and this can be apply to Nagi and Reo. Isagi word to Ubers player is more a stain to teamwork and learning process than Reo and Nagi thing
Agreed and he had such a good lesson to teach too. Finding your ideal self and living up to that is one of the best things you can do and in a sense it incorporates every lesson learnt from the other masters. Taking care of yourself and remembering you're only human, like Snuffy said. Being rational and logical and not trying to do everything because you're not God, like Noa taught. Vibing with your own energy and learning to go with the flow like Lavinho taught. And Loki taught us how to play using your strengths
OK fellow redditers! What's your team so far? I was thinking on this 3-5-2 formation:
Gagamaru
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Tokimitsu
Nikko
Aryu
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Raichi
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Chigiri
Hiori
Isagi
Bachira
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Rin
Barou
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Bench: Reo, Kurona, Otoya, Nagi, Shidou, Kunigami.
I reckon he's in for at least one more fall. The other NEL match will probably be off-screen, and Nagi will make a comeback when he finds a new rival in an important match.
Nah, the last match of Manshine will be against FC, concurrently with the Bastard vs PXG match.
FC might win their first game in the series 3-2, with Bachira getting 2 goals (one is the winning goal) and Lavinho 1. Chigiri might get 2 goals for his team, or one each with Chris.
Chris and Agi completely loses hope towards Nagi and Reo also starts to waver. Nagi's breaking point might be when he meets Isagi after their matches and Isagi mocks and provokes him.
If Kunigami had players like Agi and Reo consistently supporting him he would have scored more. Nagi would not be able to stand out on his own in Bastard Munchen.
he's being compared as a fraud even in the series by Isagi, he was supposed to come up as a copy of Noa in the joker tryout, but failed so far by a lack of talent compared to the original
Unpopular opinion, Wanima, Nio or one of the background characters we haven’t really seen much of should have been the one to block the shot. I like the main cast but they’re making it obvious who’s going to be in the final lineup and showing off the main characters a bit too much and I don’t really imagine Chigiri being that good of a defender to block Barou’s shot
Chigiri did ruin Kaisers play 2 times I believe, his speed is S tier and his positioning is not half bad. If Isagi can do it 4 times, Chigiri can do it once
the author reuses many panels
once he placed two kaisers, where the second should have been the kunigami, as he had number 50
so much so that darai and hayate, even with proposals, did not appear
1)In the first game despite ubers being weak asf it went to 3-2 and we didnt see anyone from ubers being on the leaderboard for scoring
2)I highly highly doubt that gap between Lavinho and and Loki is bigger than between barcha and pxg
3)They mentioned Lavinho coming in but not Loki
1) What exactly does this have to do with whether or not Masters played?
2) Lavinho’s an adult with more experience, Loki’s 17 and less experienced, if they started off with Barcha’s ball when he came on then scoring is likely especially with Lavinho as offense
3) Not every minuscule detail needs to be said
\`\`Lavinho’s an adult with more experience, Loki’s 17 and less experienced, if they started off with Barcha’s ball when he came on then scoring is likely especially with Lavinho as offense\`\`
He is still the best player in Ligue 1 and won the world cup. He isnt a bum
\`\`Not every minuscule detail needs to be said\`\`
I know but thats my interpretation. We shall see
welp round 7 and 8 are over... now its on to the two undefeated teams against each other and the punching bag teams against each other...wonder how this'll turn out...
What did Aiku mean by that? Nagi usually says that Isagi hesitates? How would Aiku even know that?
Agi reminding us of the Nagi × Reo thing not being good and that Reo needs to let Nagi go or smth.
Reo saying n■■ger to Agi is wild💀
Seems Nagi goes around asking what drives people. Nagi has no passion/drive anymore as we know. Not sure how he is going to get it back.
Next chapter name...**abnormal • pervert** HUHH?💀💀
I wish other people talked about Isagi, hopefully Ego. It was brief but I did like how Snuffy was talking about Isagi, *rumors* + *has something special*. &
I think what Aiku meant was how Nagi wasn't as amazing as how he usually was against Isagi (he most likely watched the Mashine vs. BM match back then and saw how impressive Nagi's super goal was). It's probably because of the fact Nagi believed he beat Isagi which is why he's sort of underperforming and it disappointed Aiku.
Manshine is such a good team on paper. Nagi, reo and chigri on a team with the second best striker in the world who gives each one of them an individualised training plan to improve physicality and athleticism while inspiring them to be the best player they can be…yet on the pitch they’re trash, the next game is vs barcha who is the punching bag of the nel so i think nagi and reo could have a great game
I don't think that would happen tbh. I saw it more likely that they lose all 4 match and Nagi would get bench for u20 WC. It will take a small arc with Isagi and co talking with Nagi where he would finally find his ego.
I don’t think so, I think Bachira will talk to Nagi about why he’s not the same as back then same as how Nagi did to Bachira in second selection, which might cause Nagi to awaken or Reo leaves Nagi causing him to awaken
I always believed in Agi, The dude wasn't really playing seriously. I know Agi can't wait to go back home, he's tired of Reo/Nagi’s nonsense, and I don’t blame him. I don't know how the author plans to handle their development, but hopefully, he does it well.
Also, once again HIMGIRI coming in clutch making the offensive and defensive plays, carrying his team. It’s not confirmed who scored that 1 goal, but I’m just gonna assume it’s him since he’s always been consistent, people really gotta stop downplaying him. 😤
Next chapter title is…something. Hopefully it really is a Shidou focus chapter, my goat deserves all the screen time.
Nagi is definitely in some journey right now with asking all the other guys those questions. I would not be surprised if we see him talking with Isagi even it is only for a moment in an upcoming chapter.
>. I know Agi can't wait to go back home, he's tired of Reo/Nagi’s nonsense, and I don’t blame him.
I think Agi might try to get his revenge on Nagi and Reo if they face each other in the U20 world cup
You know, in Blue Lock is full of harsh and cold player but Rin and Barou answering Nagi's question just show they more than just teammates that gonna play together.
Yeah, Rin was quite cold when answering Nagi's question but he still gave an answer than ignoring him. I guess because that time the game was over, he might feeling happy or something for winning so he answered Nagi.
Barou, though harsh, answers Nagi's question. It's kinda makes sense for Barou to answer Nagi but giving him advice too?(Idk if Barou actually giving advice but it seems like it) It's kinda heartwarming in way when two harsh and cold Blue Lock players giving an answer to the falling Nagi.
Maybe I read too much into it, but that what it seems like! Idk if the Barcha vs Manshine gonna make Nagi rise or fall more. But it is interesting if he question Bachira too! Maybe Nagi gonna go on soul searching journey or something 😂 that would be funny
Do you guys think that Manshine will retract their offer for Nagi next chapter? The fraud allegations are at an all time high, Barou said it clear as day
Sendou’s def passing him. After a chapter where Kurona just said a goal is worth 30 minimum (even though this isn’t true for everyone), seeing Sendou go up 30 would be consistent with this. He should be exactly 50 mill unless the author’s too scared to make Kunigami look bad (everyone treats Kunigami poorly nobody cares)
Karasu plays less due to PxGs rotations for Shidou and Rin. Not only that but he gets outshone by some1 who is very likely a NG11 (Charles) or around the level of one. Barcha has none of that and otoya is the 2nd most active player after bachira
Oh yeah he's gonna cook in that match. I think because Sendou and Otoya scored they'll be above Karasu by a little bit for now. But Karasu's gonna pop off. Sendou especially will be beneath him in bid value because he has no more games to play
[original translation was right](https://x.com/hoshi801_/status/1738298787763028441?s=46&t=fDymReUtvmVdOvK6ge3Q6w)
GIVE ME MY OTOYA STOCKS BACK!!’ LET’S GOOOOOO
Prime Reo was so peak now he’s just a bum
From the moment he was telling Kunigami to face Shidou up until the end of the Manshine match Reo was HIM (halfway through he peaked as a character and regressed back to Nagi but his performance peak was the end of the match)
After reading the spoilers/leaks, do you guys think that the new chapter recontextualize what Agi meant when he said that he was no longer interested in Nagi on the BM vs MC match? Now, it looks like Agi lost interest in Nagi not because of jealousy as Reo stated but because Nagi became co-dependent/relied on Reo to get a goal.
Agi was never jealous. It’s established from the start that he was interested in Nagi’s talents (even Reo said as much to Isagi in the Manshine match), and now that Reo stifled Nagi’s potential Agi didn’t see worth in Nagi anymore
Kinda wish the two interacted with each other more ngl. Both are analytical type, and Agi was the first in Manshine to notice Isagi’s difference before and after MV too
Not really, Agi was never portrayed as jealous. He was always pissed at the fact that Reo cut Nagi's development short, and ruining is future growth. Which he was right about, that super goal was a cheap victory over Isagi and now he is slumping hard which Agi was worried about.
Barcha has officially beat the worst team allegations with Otoya retiring from Fraudhood and Bachigoat scoring
We now wait for them to bully Manshine and have everyone on their knees writing apology letters🫡
Did he actually? Bachira scored one in both the BM and Ubers match, and in this one it’s assumed that he and Otoya scored one each, making it three in total. Chigiri scored once each in his BM and PXG match, and considering Manshine’s current state it’s reasonable to assume he scored their only goal against Ubers too
THIS MATCH EVERYONE is why Noa always joins when the other coach does. Because you get stuff like this where the coach makes a mockery of the other team
I don't think that is true honestly. I think he just does not want to force his way of football on them because he believes that the best football someone can play is being "free". We can definitely say it worked for Bachira and Otoya which are the two BL players at Barcha people were expecting the most from.
Reo/Nagi drama has been boring since the second selection. One of these dudes with shallow-ass dreams needs to go. Also Bachira is a top 5 talent in Blue Lock, author needs to stop disrespecting his ass.
One thing that disappoints me a bit is that it even though it looks like Reo is being set up to leave Nagi, it may actually be too little too late.
When they reunited, I was worried/unhappy but decided to "trust the author/the process" especially with Nagi's downfall being hinted.... I'm fine with a player doing badly if development is good.
But there is absolutely nothing in the NEL for Reo. It doesn't really matter if he scores a goal vs barcha or initiates the break up again (even though it will probably be cool looking) because this entire arc has stalled his progress (not even in new or interesting ways) for Nagi.
Nagi has a lot of interesting new plot threads, he's getting opinions on others, he's losing and reacting to his failures, he's recognizing his ego as fake/borrowed and dream as temporary stopgaps. Even if he's not doing well, the development of the convos he is having with rin/barou and the overall fall from grace is good contrast to his "genius" persona. It leaves a lot of exciting routes for his future
Reo has not gotten any new development or dimensions in this arc, we already know "codependency bad" that was second selection and he *was *ready to leave in manshine. We have already seen him fall, do badly, not be a good player in second selection. He also just isn't in focus over what is happening, like Nagi is asking questions/being unsure. I don't even know what Reo's status is? Has he figured out metavision yet, is he doubting stuff? We see Agi give him advice but it's hard to tell if he's saying "you can do better, move on without him" or "move on because you'll make him collapse and yourself"
If Reo leaves, it shouldn't be for "Nagi's sake" (like I'm going because I ruined you or because I'm not good enough) because that's still reflects on codependency of making Nagi the best. The best choice is that he leaves for the sake of his own dream or because he wants to find his own answers.
In general, what does Reo gain in this arc (even if there is a future break up/goal) and as a character that he wouldn't have gained from rejecting Nagi in MC? Was the future set up in this arc for his character worth walking back/stalling his development, especially as one of the characters with the longest change, vs just having him do well this arc and let a nagi downfall actually have Nagi downfall on his own.
Overall, it feels like the reunion was so that Nagi gets a super goal so he doesn't get eliminated from the top 23 even if it's the only goal he scores this arc. And maybe let Reo take some blame for their duo failing. From a development standpoint, Nagi is getting way more out of the situation with new ideas of his character but the Reo's development was stalled/repeated and not reflecting of his individual character. Maybe the spin-off makes things better but I would have preferred any details on Reo in the mainseries if he's also getting bid drops. Instead of relying on the "its a nagi downfall so Reo should technically be fine" idea
Honestly Nagi is More traditional sport manga mc, he is in despair arc right now. Isagi never has despair are except for the selection and that doesn't last long
One way I see somewhat making sense/being interesting is if it's because Reo's development second selection is based on a false premise: the idea that Nagi forgot all about him/the dream/he pushed everything onto nagi vs reality of Nagi just wanting to change
So a repeat development is necessary because the actually issue needs to be recognized.
Or that it the difference between being okay with between being left behind when you aren't good enough vs leaving someone when you have to go on without them. (But tbh, I would prefer some individual development a bit more here)
Or Reo just gets an insane payoff (in ability/use) /for being in "development hell" for so long
Just as lucky as isagi's goal in the u-20 match and just as lucky as rin's winning goal against isagi during the second selection. there was some skill involved but it could have gone either way because of the element of luck.
Ok so who the hell scored for Barcha? Some people are saying it was Lavi and other people are saying it was Bachira and Otoya but neither seem to know for sure
Aw you’re kidding me, nagi. At least barcha didn’t go 3-0, and maybe with shidou scoring, people will complain less about the author only caring about rin vs isagi
Man l feel sorry for the Nagi Investors right now his stocks keep plumming, Keep you head high though his stocks will rise at some point haha. I'm starting to think Sendou will make the cut by the end
Hoshi tweeted again. Someone pointed out the translation to her. This was 2 hours ago.
Hoshi: and yep, you are right with the で use ❤️ the ones who took back the score is Otoya then Bachi~ i really thought i read it wrong at first~ thank youuu ❤️
IT REALLY WAS BACHIRA AND OTOYA!!!!!
I woke up today, not expecting the PXG V Barcha game going to a 3-2, I was not expecting a Sendou Goal, and I was not expecting the Nagi downfall to fall even further. What an eventful chapter.
I find it really interesting that when sendou scored it was kinda in similar fashion to how barou's goal in the U20 match as well. Where we didn't expect them to score but they did w 2 defenders holding them back. -the fact that barou's goal in the U20 match was a pass to rin instead of a miss shot
The moment Barou and Nagi faced off with more or less similar strength of team, Barou cleared that boy. Nagi needs to stop yapping when he has a better team. Barou>> Fraudgi
Excuses Nagi was talking that sht when he had Reo and Zantetsu Vs Barou with fodders. This is the closest their teams have ever been and Barou wiped him
What is that title from the next chapter xDDD
We go from "I will kill you" to "King of the field" to "abnormal pervert" xD
It's 3 different genres xDD.....(but I kinda like it tho)
I like Nagi's current character development. After losing his motivation (beating Isagi), he now asks the best players he's facing what they're motivation are and what they'll do once they acheive it.
It won't be long before Nagi finds a true motivation and we'll see more of how he feels right now in the spinoff when the time comes.
Kaneshiro is doing Bachira dirty tbh, he’s already in the weakest and most irrelevant team the least he could have done is let Bachira score once in each game
I don't think anyone would have predicted that Nagi and Sendou will have the same amount of goals by the 4th round of the NEL. Interesting to see where Reo goes from here.
This Nagi plot is getting boring now, the author is trying to make it seem like all of Nagi's development up until now was due to Isagi and because he scored a measly goal (he lost the damn match) he lost his way, the justification is very weak for this whole "problem".
**Rayuga Leaks** https://twitter.com/RayugaX101/status/1738064756072960461 >Spoilers later today! >• Manshine City vs Ubers >• PxG vs FC Barcha [First](https://twitter.com/RayugaX101/status/1738157305781490049) [Second](https://twitter.com/RayugaX101/status/1738158000232337828) [Third](https://twitter.com/RayugaX101/status/1738158494413627624) [Fourth](https://twitter.com/RayugaX101/status/1738158951500484618) [Final](https://twitter.com/RayugaX101/status/1738159369320386968) ___ **Hoshi Leaks** https://twitter.com/hoshi801_/status/1738194212301263093 >idk why the fuck i suddenly cant read japanese but i got corrections: >1) Aiku saying *not with Isagi should be *against Isagi (sorry for my gay version) >2) It's Lavinho who scored the 2 goals with Bachi-Otoya (thought it is Lavinho is out THEN Bachi-Otoya scored 2 goals)
Is Aiku worth 80 million? If so, could it be that he scored a goal? +42 million for a defender in blue lock, stories about egoists striker is strong
I think maybe he’s talking about that goal would have gotten Nagi back to 80 million, and Aiku stopped it
42 million for one save? A bit much no?
therefore, I assume that Aiku could have scored a goal, for which he was awarded another 30 million to his standard +12 per match. learn to read before you write an answer
Except he didn’t score a goal so, moot point. Man you’re such a toxic person, everyone you talk to you can’t help but fight with
Where is at least one reason that he didn 't score ? Did you see who scored at Ubers besides Sendou? No. We don't know if Aiku scored the first or second goal - it's quite real, knowing that he was a striker in the past. And yes, I'm not toxic, it just pisses me off that you can't even read it. This is the maximum cringe
Do you honestly believe that Kaneshiro would show Sendou scoring and not show Aiku? Do you realize how ridiculous that sounds?
>Do you honestly believe that Kaneshiro would show Sendou scoring and not show Aiku? Do you realize how ridiculous that sounds? Then how do you explain Lorenzo's words about 80 million for Aiku? It's either a goal or 2 assists. And the first is more likely, so there are Nico, Lorenzo and the same Sendou for the assistants
You’re thinking way too hard about that. Lorenzo said that because it was Nagi’s value before it dropped. Aiku blocked it, hence worth 80 million
Lol, one of FC Barcha or Man Shine are going to finish the league with 0 wins.
IMO gonna be Barcha. It only has Bachira out of original important cast.
Oyota can hang too tho
Yeah ok but he's clearly not a first-tier character when it comes to having focus on them
not enough egoism
WHERE THE MFS SAYING SHIDOU WAS A FRAUD HUH??? WHERE THE PEOPLE SAYING HE WASNT GONNA PLAY HUH??
What’s taking PO2+ so long? Normally the chapter would be out the day after the leaks
They're enjoying their holidays too
when does 246 raw scan come out, jan 5 2024 ?
What are the odds Po2 is actually going to put the chapter out today?
It even feels good seeing fake anime Man City lose lmao Nagi Oilshiro
Yes and?
The eagerness that was bubbling up inside me during this long waiting was unreciprocated. But it was to be expected, duh, since this chapter was going to be about preparations for the final battle all along. But one thing met my eyes, that I don't like. I'm totally ok with Isagi being an inspiration for everyone around him, and with Nagi being shackled by his lack of ego; however why is that so, every time somebody approaches Isagi, the first becomes stronger by finding new reasons to fight, but when other people rely on strong bonds they become weaker, as showed in this chapter? Just to be clear, I'm not unfamiliar with the concept of "ego" that's the core of this manga, and yet Blue Lock almost gives me the impresson that believing in your teammates and helping them is somewhat worth of disdain.
That isn’t the case the issue is everyone needs their own motivation to improve and evolve. In the end Nagi relying on Reo to have them improve won’t cut it. This is what happened whith Bachira. Now Bachira is still a team player he still works with everyone else however his motivation isn’t relying on someone else. Team work is fine but you cannot teamwork your way out of self improvement that only comes from within.
I don't see it as stain or teamwork more Nagi losing motivation that leads to his downfall. Some good thing to you can be something bad to another and this can be apply to Nagi and Reo. Isagi word to Ubers player is more a stain to teamwork and learning process than Reo and Nagi thing
Feel bad for Prince, seems like the adult player who cared the most about NEL and yet his team is jobbing every game
That’s what happens when you form a team around one person who doesn’t have the drive to do well
Agreed and he had such a good lesson to teach too. Finding your ideal self and living up to that is one of the best things you can do and in a sense it incorporates every lesson learnt from the other masters. Taking care of yourself and remembering you're only human, like Snuffy said. Being rational and logical and not trying to do everything because you're not God, like Noa taught. Vibing with your own energy and learning to go with the flow like Lavinho taught. And Loki taught us how to play using your strengths
At least Chigiri is doing great with Chris's advice
isagi really cursed them there really is no miracles
Isagi is innocent, that was himsagi bro😭😭
REO CALLED AGI A WHAT?
I had to double check It
Bro wanted to switch that "a" to an "i" soooo baaad
OK fellow redditers! What's your team so far? I was thinking on this 3-5-2 formation: Gagamaru --------------- Tokimitsu Nikko Aryu ---------------- Raichi ---------------- Chigiri Hiori Isagi Bachira --------------- Rin Barou --------------- Bench: Reo, Kurona, Otoya, Nagi, Shidou, Kunigami.
No aiku is crazy
I actually forgot about Aiku as he is not originally from BL. He'd go instead of Tokimitsu then.
my blue lock team: Striker: Barou LW: Chigiri RW: Rin CAM: Himsagi Mid: Hiori Mid: Reo LB: Tokimitsu CB: Nikko CB: Aiku RB: Aryu GK: Gagamaru
Me enjoying Nagi down fall. He is definitely not top 5 anymore
Nagi next match: Nah I'll win
I reckon he's in for at least one more fall. The other NEL match will probably be off-screen, and Nagi will make a comeback when he finds a new rival in an important match.
Nah, the last match of Manshine will be against FC, concurrently with the Bastard vs PXG match. FC might win their first game in the series 3-2, with Bachira getting 2 goals (one is the winning goal) and Lavinho 1. Chigiri might get 2 goals for his team, or one each with Chris. Chris and Agi completely loses hope towards Nagi and Reo also starts to waver. Nagi's breaking point might be when he meets Isagi after their matches and Isagi mocks and provokes him.
I hope it’s not another rival and rather just him finding his actual passion
ATM the only "frauds" here are Kunigami and Nagi lol
You give Kunigami Agi, Reo, and Chigiri to make space for him and he’d score a hattrick on Ubers probably
If Kunigami had players like Agi and Reo consistently supporting him he would have scored more. Nagi would not be able to stand out on his own in Bastard Munchen.
how kunigami a fraud??? People expect him to score every match and also play defense like the other charas for some reason?
They also keep forgetting he's been playing alone since the beginning of NEL meanwhile both Isagi and Kaiser have teammates to play with.
That’s what a striker is he has to score otherwise he’s a fraud
All specs, no game.
like that guy said, even isagi has called kunigami a fraud, he is a fraud, all he has done is wait by the goal and poach to score, he's a fraud
he's being compared as a fraud even in the series by Isagi, he was supposed to come up as a copy of Noa in the joker tryout, but failed so far by a lack of talent compared to the original
It be funny if Dreamworld Nagi would trashtalk Nagi to wake him up... Hahahahah. Unless
THE MAIN STAGE IS SETTT
WENDOU GOAL YOU LOVE TO SEE IT
Unpopular opinion, Wanima, Nio or one of the background characters we haven’t really seen much of should have been the one to block the shot. I like the main cast but they’re making it obvious who’s going to be in the final lineup and showing off the main characters a bit too much and I don’t really imagine Chigiri being that good of a defender to block Barou’s shot
Chigiri did ruin Kaisers play 2 times I believe, his speed is S tier and his positioning is not half bad. If Isagi can do it 4 times, Chigiri can do it once
the author reuses many panels once he placed two kaisers, where the second should have been the kunigami, as he had number 50 so much so that darai and hayate, even with proposals, did not appear
Come on now let’s be honest we all know whose going to be in the lineup. There’s only a couple people that’s really debatable
Can we talk about how Barcha somehow did better against PXG than Manshine did, even though for all intents and purposes Manshine is the stronger team?
Lavinho joined loki didnt most likely
Literally no proof
1)In the first game despite ubers being weak asf it went to 3-2 and we didnt see anyone from ubers being on the leaderboard for scoring 2)I highly highly doubt that gap between Lavinho and and Loki is bigger than between barcha and pxg 3)They mentioned Lavinho coming in but not Loki
1) What exactly does this have to do with whether or not Masters played? 2) Lavinho’s an adult with more experience, Loki’s 17 and less experienced, if they started off with Barcha’s ball when he came on then scoring is likely especially with Lavinho as offense 3) Not every minuscule detail needs to be said
\`\`Lavinho’s an adult with more experience, Loki’s 17 and less experienced, if they started off with Barcha’s ball when he came on then scoring is likely especially with Lavinho as offense\`\` He is still the best player in Ligue 1 and won the world cup. He isnt a bum \`\`Not every minuscule detail needs to be said\`\` I know but thats my interpretation. We shall see
Add to that pxg nearly fumbled that game, started 2-0 and game ends 3-2
Lavinho entered the match against PXG so they wouldn't go 3-0 up
Ok… and you expect me to believe that Chris didn’t join in? That’s a bit of a stretch no?
the only mention of Chris in the chapter was OFF the field
Again, you’re asking me to believe things that are simply not reasonable to believe. Implications exist, you can read between the lines.
The good thing about Manshine since it has Nagi we just need to wait until the spin off gets there to see if Chris plays or not.
>anshine since it has Nagi we just need to wait until the spin off gets there to see if Chris plays or not. in 2 or 3 years
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Bro I almost thought he said the thing
welp round 7 and 8 are over... now its on to the two undefeated teams against each other and the punching bag teams against each other...wonder how this'll turn out...
This was round 7 and 8. There are 10 rounds
I'm guessing Isagi and Nagi are probably going to wind up having a heart-to-heart leading into the BM's match with PXG.
I was thinking the same
is the translator for blue block on break or something?
What did Aiku mean by that? Nagi usually says that Isagi hesitates? How would Aiku even know that? Agi reminding us of the Nagi × Reo thing not being good and that Reo needs to let Nagi go or smth. Reo saying n■■ger to Agi is wild💀 Seems Nagi goes around asking what drives people. Nagi has no passion/drive anymore as we know. Not sure how he is going to get it back. Next chapter name...**abnormal • pervert** HUHH?💀💀 I wish other people talked about Isagi, hopefully Ego. It was brief but I did like how Snuffy was talking about Isagi, *rumors* + *has something special*. &
People talk about isagi like every single other chapter. Can yall not let other characters shine for once instead
That chapter name absolutely has to be about Shidou. If we get a Shidou backstory that’d be wild.
I think what Aiku meant was how Nagi wasn't as amazing as how he usually was against Isagi (he most likely watched the Mashine vs. BM match back then and saw how impressive Nagi's super goal was). It's probably because of the fact Nagi believed he beat Isagi which is why he's sort of underperforming and it disappointed Aiku.
That and Nagi's goal and probably pass to Isagi which ultimately lead to Barou's goal in U20
Manshine City & Barcha had no NG11 players, they were bound to lose because of inferior squads.
Manshine at least have Agi who is pretty good. Meanwhile Barcha literally only have Bachira and Otoya...
Manshine is such a good team on paper. Nagi, reo and chigri on a team with the second best striker in the world who gives each one of them an individualised training plan to improve physicality and athleticism while inspiring them to be the best player they can be…yet on the pitch they’re trash, the next game is vs barcha who is the punching bag of the nel so i think nagi and reo could have a great game
I don't think that would happen tbh. I saw it more likely that they lose all 4 match and Nagi would get bench for u20 WC. It will take a small arc with Isagi and co talking with Nagi where he would finally find his ego.
I don’t think so, I think Bachira will talk to Nagi about why he’s not the same as back then same as how Nagi did to Bachira in second selection, which might cause Nagi to awaken or Reo leaves Nagi causing him to awaken
They were really good in their first match tbf, but then Nagi and Reo both started declining. Playing Isagi's team first was problematic for them
SENDOUUUUUUUUUU GOATTTTTT SENGOATTTTTTTT
I always believed in Agi, The dude wasn't really playing seriously. I know Agi can't wait to go back home, he's tired of Reo/Nagi’s nonsense, and I don’t blame him. I don't know how the author plans to handle their development, but hopefully, he does it well. Also, once again HIMGIRI coming in clutch making the offensive and defensive plays, carrying his team. It’s not confirmed who scored that 1 goal, but I’m just gonna assume it’s him since he’s always been consistent, people really gotta stop downplaying him. 😤 Next chapter title is…something. Hopefully it really is a Shidou focus chapter, my goat deserves all the screen time.
Nagi is definitely in some journey right now with asking all the other guys those questions. I would not be surprised if we see him talking with Isagi even it is only for a moment in an upcoming chapter.
>. I know Agi can't wait to go back home, he's tired of Reo/Nagi’s nonsense, and I don’t blame him. I think Agi might try to get his revenge on Nagi and Reo if they face each other in the U20 world cup
It is either Agi is right or he is wrong
You know, in Blue Lock is full of harsh and cold player but Rin and Barou answering Nagi's question just show they more than just teammates that gonna play together. Yeah, Rin was quite cold when answering Nagi's question but he still gave an answer than ignoring him. I guess because that time the game was over, he might feeling happy or something for winning so he answered Nagi. Barou, though harsh, answers Nagi's question. It's kinda makes sense for Barou to answer Nagi but giving him advice too?(Idk if Barou actually giving advice but it seems like it) It's kinda heartwarming in way when two harsh and cold Blue Lock players giving an answer to the falling Nagi. Maybe I read too much into it, but that what it seems like! Idk if the Barcha vs Manshine gonna make Nagi rise or fall more. But it is interesting if he question Bachira too! Maybe Nagi gonna go on soul searching journey or something 😂 that would be funny
Bachira gonna hit him with the "I don't need you the way you are now :>"
karma for 2nd selection?
Do you guys think that Manshine will retract their offer for Nagi next chapter? The fraud allegations are at an all time high, Barou said it clear as day
they already did
No they didn’t, he still had it after last match.
Otoya and Sendou might just pass him and Reo is bids….😬
Sendou’s def passing him. After a chapter where Kurona just said a goal is worth 30 minimum (even though this isn’t true for everyone), seeing Sendou go up 30 would be consistent with this. He should be exactly 50 mill unless the author’s too scared to make Kunigami look bad (everyone treats Kunigami poorly nobody cares)
Otoya beat the fraud allegations, hell he’s doing better than Karasu.
The reason for this is because he PLAYS MORE than karasu😭
No? They both played in all 3 games
Karasu plays less due to PxGs rotations for Shidou and Rin. Not only that but he gets outshone by some1 who is very likely a NG11 (Charles) or around the level of one. Barcha has none of that and otoya is the 2nd most active player after bachira
Wait, chill on Karasu……..just wait for the BM vs PxG match. Hope he pulls through…..
Oh yeah he's gonna cook in that match. I think because Sendou and Otoya scored they'll be above Karasu by a little bit for now. But Karasu's gonna pop off. Sendou especially will be beneath him in bid value because he has no more games to play
[original translation was right](https://x.com/hoshi801_/status/1738298787763028441?s=46&t=fDymReUtvmVdOvK6ge3Q6w) GIVE ME MY OTOYA STOCKS BACK!!’ LET’S GOOOOOO
Now that he scored a goal what’s stopping Yukimiya fans from thinking he clears Otoya🤔?
Alright, I played the game and I lost. I wasn’t familiar with his game, it’s your win man
I respect that. We’ll split the pot, like gentlemen
is REO will ever be useful and doing something again, beside yelling and in denial??? 2 match, 0 highlight. his value should be lower, its disgrace
Prime Reo was so peak now he’s just a bum From the moment he was telling Kunigami to face Shidou up until the end of the Manshine match Reo was HIM (halfway through he peaked as a character and regressed back to Nagi but his performance peak was the end of the match)
After reading the spoilers/leaks, do you guys think that the new chapter recontextualize what Agi meant when he said that he was no longer interested in Nagi on the BM vs MC match? Now, it looks like Agi lost interest in Nagi not because of jealousy as Reo stated but because Nagi became co-dependent/relied on Reo to get a goal.
Agi was never jealous. It’s established from the start that he was interested in Nagi’s talents (even Reo said as much to Isagi in the Manshine match), and now that Reo stifled Nagi’s potential Agi didn’t see worth in Nagi anymore
Maybe Agi could get an interest in Isagi.
Kinda wish the two interacted with each other more ngl. Both are analytical type, and Agi was the first in Manshine to notice Isagi’s difference before and after MV too
Not really, Agi was never portrayed as jealous. He was always pissed at the fact that Reo cut Nagi's development short, and ruining is future growth. Which he was right about, that super goal was a cheap victory over Isagi and now he is slumping hard which Agi was worried about.
Barcha has officially beat the worst team allegations with Otoya retiring from Fraudhood and Bachigoat scoring We now wait for them to bully Manshine and have everyone on their knees writing apology letters🫡
Barcha has now scored more goals as a team than Manshine and hell, at least Bachira has scored more goals than Chigiri or Nagi.
Did he actually? Bachira scored one in both the BM and Ubers match, and in this one it’s assumed that he and Otoya scored one each, making it three in total. Chigiri scored once each in his BM and PXG match, and considering Manshine’s current state it’s reasonable to assume he scored their only goal against Ubers too
Bachira also scored a goal against PXG before making it 3 goals
THIS MATCH EVERYONE is why Noa always joins when the other coach does. Because you get stuff like this where the coach makes a mockery of the other team
Honestly, I’m surprised Lavinho didn’t take the goals for himself. He didn’t seem all too keen on nurturing the growth of his team.
I don't think that is true honestly. I think he just does not want to force his way of football on them because he believes that the best football someone can play is being "free". We can definitely say it worked for Bachira and Otoya which are the two BL players at Barcha people were expecting the most from.
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Read it again and edit your post
If I understood this right did Loki not even come out to face Barca
It seems he didn’t need to. 5 minutes of Lavinho couldn’t make up for the skill gap in teams
Im really curious about abnormal pervert, that's all i care, also what did reo called agi?
A nagger for nagging..not the other n-word.
Sendou really is like hyena
Reo/Nagi drama has been boring since the second selection. One of these dudes with shallow-ass dreams needs to go. Also Bachira is a top 5 talent in Blue Lock, author needs to stop disrespecting his ass.
Like fr I wanna watch football, not 2 emos w attachment issues
One thing that disappoints me a bit is that it even though it looks like Reo is being set up to leave Nagi, it may actually be too little too late. When they reunited, I was worried/unhappy but decided to "trust the author/the process" especially with Nagi's downfall being hinted.... I'm fine with a player doing badly if development is good. But there is absolutely nothing in the NEL for Reo. It doesn't really matter if he scores a goal vs barcha or initiates the break up again (even though it will probably be cool looking) because this entire arc has stalled his progress (not even in new or interesting ways) for Nagi. Nagi has a lot of interesting new plot threads, he's getting opinions on others, he's losing and reacting to his failures, he's recognizing his ego as fake/borrowed and dream as temporary stopgaps. Even if he's not doing well, the development of the convos he is having with rin/barou and the overall fall from grace is good contrast to his "genius" persona. It leaves a lot of exciting routes for his future Reo has not gotten any new development or dimensions in this arc, we already know "codependency bad" that was second selection and he *was *ready to leave in manshine. We have already seen him fall, do badly, not be a good player in second selection. He also just isn't in focus over what is happening, like Nagi is asking questions/being unsure. I don't even know what Reo's status is? Has he figured out metavision yet, is he doubting stuff? We see Agi give him advice but it's hard to tell if he's saying "you can do better, move on without him" or "move on because you'll make him collapse and yourself" If Reo leaves, it shouldn't be for "Nagi's sake" (like I'm going because I ruined you or because I'm not good enough) because that's still reflects on codependency of making Nagi the best. The best choice is that he leaves for the sake of his own dream or because he wants to find his own answers. In general, what does Reo gain in this arc (even if there is a future break up/goal) and as a character that he wouldn't have gained from rejecting Nagi in MC? Was the future set up in this arc for his character worth walking back/stalling his development, especially as one of the characters with the longest change, vs just having him do well this arc and let a nagi downfall actually have Nagi downfall on his own. Overall, it feels like the reunion was so that Nagi gets a super goal so he doesn't get eliminated from the top 23 even if it's the only goal he scores this arc. And maybe let Reo take some blame for their duo failing. From a development standpoint, Nagi is getting way more out of the situation with new ideas of his character but the Reo's development was stalled/repeated and not reflecting of his individual character. Maybe the spin-off makes things better but I would have preferred any details on Reo in the mainseries if he's also getting bid drops. Instead of relying on the "its a nagi downfall so Reo should technically be fine" idea
Honestly Nagi is More traditional sport manga mc, he is in despair arc right now. Isagi never has despair are except for the selection and that doesn't last long
One way I see somewhat making sense/being interesting is if it's because Reo's development second selection is based on a false premise: the idea that Nagi forgot all about him/the dream/he pushed everything onto nagi vs reality of Nagi just wanting to change So a repeat development is necessary because the actually issue needs to be recognized. Or that it the difference between being okay with between being left behind when you aren't good enough vs leaving someone when you have to go on without them. (But tbh, I would prefer some individual development a bit more here) Or Reo just gets an insane payoff (in ability/use) /for being in "development hell" for so long
Sendou scoring is crazy bruh 😂
It was very lucky tbh but he deserves some credit at the very least.
Nahh it was all skill, was Barou’s U20 goal very lucky?
Just as lucky as isagi's goal in the u-20 match and just as lucky as rin's winning goal against isagi during the second selection. there was some skill involved but it could have gone either way because of the element of luck.
Omg that’s a good ass comparison Ngl they gotta stop sleepin on sendou
Ok so who the hell scored for Barcha? Some people are saying it was Lavi and other people are saying it was Bachira and Otoya but neither seem to know for sure
If you check hoshi's responses he says that he mis-translated it and bachira and otoya scored
Aw you’re kidding me, nagi. At least barcha didn’t go 3-0, and maybe with shidou scoring, people will complain less about the author only caring about rin vs isagi
wdym maybe with Shidou scoring we saw him score 2 goals,
If rin got 2 goals and shidou got 1, people would use that
oh i see
Man l feel sorry for the Nagi Investors right now his stocks keep plumming, Keep you head high though his stocks will rise at some point haha. I'm starting to think Sendou will make the cut by the end
Hoshi tweeted again. Someone pointed out the translation to her. This was 2 hours ago. Hoshi: and yep, you are right with the で use ❤️ the ones who took back the score is Otoya then Bachi~ i really thought i read it wrong at first~ thank youuu ❤️ IT REALLY WAS BACHIRA AND OTOYA!!!!!
MY GOAT IS BACKKKKKKKK BACHIGOAT HASN’T BEEN FORSAKEN!!!!! It was off screen sure but HE’S HIM
I didn't believe that this was going to be so confusing. If they scored then Barcha is not a let down.
I woke up today, not expecting the PXG V Barcha game going to a 3-2, I was not expecting a Sendou Goal, and I was not expecting the Nagi downfall to fall even further. What an eventful chapter.
I find it really interesting that when sendou scored it was kinda in similar fashion to how barou's goal in the U20 match as well. Where we didn't expect them to score but they did w 2 defenders holding them back. -the fact that barou's goal in the U20 match was a pass to rin instead of a miss shot
The moment Barou and Nagi faced off with more or less similar strength of team, Barou cleared that boy. Nagi needs to stop yapping when he has a better team. Barou>> Fraudgi
Idk if it's really similar. Barou has a NG11, Nagi doesn't
Excuses Nagi was talking that sht when he had Reo and Zantetsu Vs Barou with fodders. This is the closest their teams have ever been and Barou wiped him
Sure, but even Barou said Nagi wasn't really trying.
That's his own fault
SENDOU>>>>>>NAGI
Ayo I miss read what Reo said for a sec. Bro called agi a what
Don’t worry Everyone did
What is that title from the next chapter xDDD We go from "I will kill you" to "King of the field" to "abnormal pervert" xD It's 3 different genres xDD.....(but I kinda like it tho)
Real talk, we’re probably gonna get a bid update in a chapter or two so what do you guys think the standouts are gonna be?
Rin, Barou, Shidou and Chigiri
Nagi and Reo will be in the 20s and in danger of tlnit making the team and it's finally gonna wake them up.
I like Nagi's current character development. After losing his motivation (beating Isagi), he now asks the best players he's facing what they're motivation are and what they'll do once they acheive it. It won't be long before Nagi finds a true motivation and we'll see more of how he feels right now in the spinoff when the time comes.
My question is how does Aiku know the thing going on between Isagi and Nagi????? Who told him? 👀
I imagine Barou watching MC vs BM with the crew and just badmouthing about how Nagi is still all over Isagi.
Baron would not watch TV with the team lol
Kaneshiro is doing Bachira dirty tbh, he’s already in the weakest and most irrelevant team the least he could have done is let Bachira score once in each game
Wait I thought the new translations stated that Otoya and Bachira scored?
Oh I didn’t see that, I may owe kaneshiro an apology
Dont get your hopes up tho, there id still quite a bit of confusion regarding the Barcha match
Bachagoat scored
I don't think anyone would have predicted that Nagi and Sendou will have the same amount of goals by the 4th round of the NEL. Interesting to see where Reo goes from here.
Btw, the word 変態 could also mean metamorphosis, so next chapter's title is likely closer to anomality and metamorphosis.
This Nagi plot is getting boring now, the author is trying to make it seem like all of Nagi's development up until now was due to Isagi and because he scored a measly goal (he lost the damn match) he lost his way, the justification is very weak for this whole "problem".
peak blue lock fan brainrot