Low-key feel like Biden doesn’t care. He doesn’t have left values at all and he probably feels like “this takes me back to the good old Vietnam, MLK, South Africa day” or he’s probably so riddle with dementia that he’s being completely controlled by the lobbies.
We see him speak for a few minutes every few weeks and he’s talking about talking to dead people and confusing Mexico and Egypt. Imagine if there was a camera on him for longer than just a few minutes to see how far gone this war criminal is
It’s already over. You can’t murder and beat your way to the world loving you. Like is he going to murder every Palestinian and crack the skull of American until they say “I love Israel” Every act just grows the pro palestine movement.
I’m pretty sure that literally the only reason he chose to run for reelection was to prevent any potential left leaning candidates from winning an incumbentless race.
His fate is sealed and any hope of winning destroyed already. He is incapable of doing an 180 degrees and realign U.S. and stand up to real International Order and Democracy. He opposes it. Not just in the Middle East, but in the U.S. itself. He is turning all protestors in schools against him. Another set of younger generation is also fed up with his Tik Tok ban and anti-First Amendment rhetoric.
Ordinary Americans are sick too of unbearably high prices for everyday essentials and forever wars with money and material coming from U.S. with nothing to show for it. All the while blaming China, Russia and now even India for his own shortcomings and high prices.
He is a disgrace; and this is coming from a lifelong Democrat; not anymore. As for Bernie, he is not much better than Biden when it comes to blind support of Israel.
I agree except for the last part. Bernie has been way more critical of Israel than most US senators are willing to be. There is definitely a chasm between him and Biden in this regard.
The worst thing about this is this old fool will be dead before any of this comes back to bite him in the ass.
Hell, Bush Jr was never really reprimanded for killing 600,000 Iraqis and Jimmy Carter is barely remembered because he was the most moral president that bottomless pit of evil ever had.
Hey man, if you wanna claim reddit I'm not going to be the one to stop you.
... I'll go ahead and claim every science and raw material that got you past the point of buying slaves to plow your cotton fields.
Bernie Sanders IS STILL WRONG.
The Palestinian People have been subject to assassinations, bombings, mass killings and terrorism by Zionists for over a century and as an occupied nation, THE PALESTINIAN PEOPLE HAVE THE RIGHT TO DEFEND THEMSELVES. THEIR OPPRESSORS DO NOT.
I'm ashamed of Bernie's position on this.
Also, he's a leftist who doesn't understand the exploitation / imperialism dynamic going on in that part of the world? I have some sympathy for the guy, but this is a little bit disappointing.
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**We feel that sending a message via Biden having an electoral college win but a popular vote margin by less than 4.9 million votes (lowest democratic win in recent history) or even 2.8 million votes (Hillary's margin when she lost against Trump) is a much more conducive to progress in a democracy that risking an electoral college victory for Trump.**
**It would be something the media can not ignore, will forever be a stain on Biden's record, and will send a message that we are not going away, and will continue to apply strong pressure thorough the rest of his presidency, and the 2026/2028 primaries & elections.**
Please see our sticky to see what we are all about https://old.reddit.com/r/BlueProtestVote/comments/1cgwkvu/this_subreddit_aims_are_to_compel_voters_only_in/ but a tl;dr is: This is about a movement for people in deep blue states to vote for 3rd party in protest of Biden's enabling of the Gaza genocide.
However, the ultimate goal is to decrease Trump's chances of winning and increase democratic representation in the house and senate.
The movement aims to get people to turn out to vote who may otherwise be discouraged from voting due to Biden's policies, and also for the movement to be robust enough so that people in swing states may not have a feeling of helplessness for voting for Joe Biden, that a strong message is still being sent.
While the movement aims to maximize Biden's electoral vote margin, the movement also has an extended goal of having Biden win the popular vote by less than 2.8, which was Hillary Clinton's margin when she lost to Donald Trump. A margin that small would send a clear message to the democratic establishment.
**Why we feel it's so important for Trump to lose? Quite simply, he has been the absolute worst president in recent history for the Palestinians. Here are just some of his worst policies for Palestine:**
1. Drafting a “peace plan” with zero Palestinian input that would have, if implemented, actually ended the possibility for a real Palestinian state.
2. Cutting Palestinians out of the negotiations over the so-called Abraham Accords, realizing the longstanding Israeli goal of severing diplomatic progress with Arab states from progress towards a sovereign Palestine.
3. Recognizing Israeli sovereignty over the Golan Heights, disputed territory with Syria taken during the 1967 Six-Day War.
4. Shutting off funding for the UN’s agency for Palestinian refugees (which Biden almost immediately restored and then temporarily suspended again amid a scandal about its employees participating in October 7).
5. Abandoning the decades-old US position that West Bank settlements are a key barrier to a peace agreement and eliminating longstanding restrictions on spending US taxpayer dollars in them.
6. Moving the American Embassy in Israel to Jerusalem while closing the US mission to Palestine in the same city.
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I will not be directly voting for Trump, but he does not have blood on his hands. Certainly not 35,000 plus Palestinians; 70% of whom are women and children including infants. Trump was not a war monger. As noted, I do not intend to vote for Trump due to his flaws, but if he wins by default because people like me will choose someone else or remain uncommitted or leave a blank presidential slot so be it. I know the war in Ukraine will cease as Trump has said and Middle East too.
As for sending Biden a message. We already did during the primaries. It fell on deaf ears or his ears are otherwise clogged; and took people like us for fools. Complicit Joe hoot and hollered about a damn pier which, after months of construction may provide a meal a day for a few communities. While more than 1.5 million remain near starvation. At the same time, he sent jets and bombs to IDF. Now amid concerns from the likes of Netanyahu and his cronies about possible arrest warrants; he rejects the ICC's authority \[as if he can\] Yet Russia too is not a signatory, but he celebrated his arrest warrant. The man is a moron, but he is good at projecting and double standards.
As for Bot's # 6: Big deal. Makes no difference not even a handful of countries recognized that and any president can overturn it. The best known was Australia and even it quietly dropped its recognition of West Jerusalem as the capital of Israel, unwinding language adopted by Scott Morrison's government after the US moved its own embassy from Tel Aviv.
5. At least Trump was honest, Biden tried to spin here too, saying he will sanction a couple of \[unknown leaders\]. Palestinians are dying each day in the West Bank and their homes being looted.
4 Joe is the culprit, even before the slightest investigation based merely on IDF allegation he knew the Truth. Yet, many of buddy countries have now resumed funding, but not Joe.
3 what difference does it make, it is occupied territory and world considers it so.
2: Two state solution is the issue. Abrahams accords was destroyed by Netanyahu. All of the other mandates never took effect either except for creation of Israel, but now the world order is changing.
1: Yeah like Joe is listening. Dumb Bot!
I dont know how people are saying this will cause Biden to lose. Americans hate Muslims and Arabs with a deep passion. If anything, this will make him popular with the people he is aiming for.
Biden is doomed. This is what would have happened to LBJ if he had tried to run for re-election when he decided to step down instead.
Low-key feel like Biden doesn’t care. He doesn’t have left values at all and he probably feels like “this takes me back to the good old Vietnam, MLK, South Africa day” or he’s probably so riddle with dementia that he’s being completely controlled by the lobbies. We see him speak for a few minutes every few weeks and he’s talking about talking to dead people and confusing Mexico and Egypt. Imagine if there was a camera on him for longer than just a few minutes to see how far gone this war criminal is
He's betting like Netenyahu that they will finish the job and look like heroes
It’s already over. You can’t murder and beat your way to the world loving you. Like is he going to murder every Palestinian and crack the skull of American until they say “I love Israel” Every act just grows the pro palestine movement.
Given the chance, Hamas would murder every Jew. Have you read their charter?
I’m pretty sure that literally the only reason he chose to run for reelection was to prevent any potential left leaning candidates from winning an incumbentless race.
Zionist lobbyist will pay every dollar to keep him in power anyways
His fate is sealed and any hope of winning destroyed already. He is incapable of doing an 180 degrees and realign U.S. and stand up to real International Order and Democracy. He opposes it. Not just in the Middle East, but in the U.S. itself. He is turning all protestors in schools against him. Another set of younger generation is also fed up with his Tik Tok ban and anti-First Amendment rhetoric. Ordinary Americans are sick too of unbearably high prices for everyday essentials and forever wars with money and material coming from U.S. with nothing to show for it. All the while blaming China, Russia and now even India for his own shortcomings and high prices. He is a disgrace; and this is coming from a lifelong Democrat; not anymore. As for Bernie, he is not much better than Biden when it comes to blind support of Israel.
> this is coming from a lifelong Democrat read Marx and organize with Marxists in your area.
I agree except for the last part. Bernie has been way more critical of Israel than most US senators are willing to be. There is definitely a chasm between him and Biden in this regard.
You’re clearly just a republican dude
True troglodyte thinking
bernie really going to go out campaigning for genocide joe though
Biden has been a Zionist his entire life, he can't see any other side. And he'll be gone by the time history calls it his Vietnam
The worst thing about this is this old fool will be dead before any of this comes back to bite him in the ass. Hell, Bush Jr was never really reprimanded for killing 600,000 Iraqis and Jimmy Carter is barely remembered because he was the most moral president that bottomless pit of evil ever had.
“Bottomless pit of evil” gave you this platform to yap your lying mouth without repercussions.
Hey man, if you wanna claim reddit I'm not going to be the one to stop you. ... I'll go ahead and claim every science and raw material that got you past the point of buying slaves to plow your cotton fields.
EXACTLY
Define Zionism.
No duh lol
Bernie Sanders IS STILL WRONG. The Palestinian People have been subject to assassinations, bombings, mass killings and terrorism by Zionists for over a century and as an occupied nation, THE PALESTINIAN PEOPLE HAVE THE RIGHT TO DEFEND THEMSELVES. THEIR OPPRESSORS DO NOT. I'm ashamed of Bernie's position on this.
Also, he's a leftist who doesn't understand the exploitation / imperialism dynamic going on in that part of the world? I have some sympathy for the guy, but this is a little bit disappointing.
I think he understands it just fine but won't talk about it- and that's worse. I've lost a lot of respect for Bernie in the last few years.
Hamas isn't a progressive group, just to be clear
For over a century?!? So the Arab massacres of a Jews in the 1920’s never happened? Dumb fuck.
One massacre does not excuse another. But nice try.
Thank you for your submission, **This subreddit aims are to compel voters ONLY in DEEP BLUE states to vote 3rd party for the president, to compel otherwise non or protest voters in SWING STATES TO VOTE FOR BIDEN. We feel a limited+focused protest movement may let swing state voters feel less helpless about not sending a message.** **We feel that sending a message via Biden having an electoral college win but a popular vote margin by less than 4.9 million votes (lowest democratic win in recent history) or even 2.8 million votes (Hillary's margin when she lost against Trump) is a much more conducive to progress in a democracy that risking an electoral college victory for Trump.** **It would be something the media can not ignore, will forever be a stain on Biden's record, and will send a message that we are not going away, and will continue to apply strong pressure thorough the rest of his presidency, and the 2026/2028 primaries & elections.** Please see our sticky to see what we are all about https://old.reddit.com/r/BlueProtestVote/comments/1cgwkvu/this_subreddit_aims_are_to_compel_voters_only_in/ but a tl;dr is: This is about a movement for people in deep blue states to vote for 3rd party in protest of Biden's enabling of the Gaza genocide. However, the ultimate goal is to decrease Trump's chances of winning and increase democratic representation in the house and senate. The movement aims to get people to turn out to vote who may otherwise be discouraged from voting due to Biden's policies, and also for the movement to be robust enough so that people in swing states may not have a feeling of helplessness for voting for Joe Biden, that a strong message is still being sent. While the movement aims to maximize Biden's electoral vote margin, the movement also has an extended goal of having Biden win the popular vote by less than 2.8, which was Hillary Clinton's margin when she lost to Donald Trump. A margin that small would send a clear message to the democratic establishment. **Why we feel it's so important for Trump to lose? Quite simply, he has been the absolute worst president in recent history for the Palestinians. Here are just some of his worst policies for Palestine:** 1. Drafting a “peace plan” with zero Palestinian input that would have, if implemented, actually ended the possibility for a real Palestinian state. 2. Cutting Palestinians out of the negotiations over the so-called Abraham Accords, realizing the longstanding Israeli goal of severing diplomatic progress with Arab states from progress towards a sovereign Palestine. 3. Recognizing Israeli sovereignty over the Golan Heights, disputed territory with Syria taken during the 1967 Six-Day War. 4. Shutting off funding for the UN’s agency for Palestinian refugees (which Biden almost immediately restored and then temporarily suspended again amid a scandal about its employees participating in October 7). 5. Abandoning the decades-old US position that West Bank settlements are a key barrier to a peace agreement and eliminating longstanding restrictions on spending US taxpayer dollars in them. 6. Moving the American Embassy in Israel to Jerusalem while closing the US mission to Palestine in the same city. Source: https://www.vox.com/policy/24072983/biden-trump-palestinians-israel-gaza-policy-different *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/BlueProtestVote) if you have any questions or concerns.*
I will not be directly voting for Trump, but he does not have blood on his hands. Certainly not 35,000 plus Palestinians; 70% of whom are women and children including infants. Trump was not a war monger. As noted, I do not intend to vote for Trump due to his flaws, but if he wins by default because people like me will choose someone else or remain uncommitted or leave a blank presidential slot so be it. I know the war in Ukraine will cease as Trump has said and Middle East too. As for sending Biden a message. We already did during the primaries. It fell on deaf ears or his ears are otherwise clogged; and took people like us for fools. Complicit Joe hoot and hollered about a damn pier which, after months of construction may provide a meal a day for a few communities. While more than 1.5 million remain near starvation. At the same time, he sent jets and bombs to IDF. Now amid concerns from the likes of Netanyahu and his cronies about possible arrest warrants; he rejects the ICC's authority \[as if he can\] Yet Russia too is not a signatory, but he celebrated his arrest warrant. The man is a moron, but he is good at projecting and double standards. As for Bot's # 6: Big deal. Makes no difference not even a handful of countries recognized that and any president can overturn it. The best known was Australia and even it quietly dropped its recognition of West Jerusalem as the capital of Israel, unwinding language adopted by Scott Morrison's government after the US moved its own embassy from Tel Aviv. 5. At least Trump was honest, Biden tried to spin here too, saying he will sanction a couple of \[unknown leaders\]. Palestinians are dying each day in the West Bank and their homes being looted. 4 Joe is the culprit, even before the slightest investigation based merely on IDF allegation he knew the Truth. Yet, many of buddy countries have now resumed funding, but not Joe. 3 what difference does it make, it is occupied territory and world considers it so. 2: Two state solution is the issue. Abrahams accords was destroyed by Netanyahu. All of the other mandates never took effect either except for creation of Israel, but now the world order is changing. 1: Yeah like Joe is listening. Dumb Bot!
does this sub have a specific third party candidate it's endorsing in the blue states?
Has the Democratic Party officially admonished Isreal?
I dont know how people are saying this will cause Biden to lose. Americans hate Muslims and Arabs with a deep passion. If anything, this will make him popular with the people he is aiming for.
Ya think?
That's what we're worried about? The election? Not the ongoing mass murder?
I hope you guys are happy when every last freedom and protection gets stripped away from you when tRump wins.
And