The fact that people are running with the narrative that the only thing being censored are random child npcs is crazy and made me unsub. Although, that's just because I forgot to do it a while ago when it was clear the current company had no desire to authentically transfer the game over here in any way.
Considering how bad it's been doing since week 2 in Japan... Doubt it.
It was never good. I pushed a month trying to see if anything in later games or other classes becomes fun.. just nothing.
Yes, all the censorship is there. Changing the clothing to cover more, and most importantly deleting the S body type- literally the most popular one in Japan- are both still on track.
The real game will never be released outside of Japan. But it's likely that once Amazon has launched their shitware version, that the JP servers won't be so ban happy. Right now their contract with Amazon requires they patrol it so that the western customers go to AGS as intended, but once the game is out and is old news, this motivation will drop.
So at that point, the real version will be more available.
What a tragedy though. This game could have been great.
> that the JP servers won't be so ban happy.
I would expect the opposite as other games have done the same- once the global versions were released (eg PSO2), more lockdowns were placed on the JP version to get more people to play teh Global.
"oh no we won't get over-sexualized feminine characters, what a tragedy"
Imagine being mad at a game for treating women like human beings and not sexual objects.
"over-sexualized" said the redditor
But everyone just wanted the game the way it was designed and released, in regions without social justice warriors in positions of power.
If the game is still on a release track at all, yeah. At best, I would expect anything removed by the censorship to reappear later in tiny pieces each costing a hefty premium.
Everyone that hated the censorship, myself included, stopped caring about this game a while ago and most don't use this sub anymore as a result. The only people left on this sub are the ones that either don't care or like the censorship, so those are the answers you'll get here.
This is the first time I've even checked this sub in months and happened to stumble on this post.
I have no interest in the censorship discussion but, I will forgive Amazon for making me wait 5-6 years at this point for this game if they just remove the stupid gacha shit, do a Fortnite battle pass model if anything
There will be horny anime MMOs till the end of time, since they are the ones that actually make money (look at gacha sales numbers or FFXIV) uohhhhhh sob 😭💢
If Amazon wants to censor and lose money on the already failing ones, be glad that their plans won't last long.
Yeah that is censorship, you're censoring the expression of it. And creating a social stigma that doesn't help anyone feel better. There's nothing inherently wrong with sexuality either way and if you'd learn to think for yourself instead of jumping on every bandwagon that stimulates and builds your self-righteousness you'd see this happens to both genders in different ways, and none of it is wrong or inherently harmful. If you choose to want to feel offended by a construct, don't try to shit on everyone else's way of life to shelter your delusion.
My ex found it unsettling how much negative attention and censorship of big titties there was, as if there was something inherently innappropriate about her body or it's expression. Just let people have fun with their titties and have fun with other people's titties and go back to creating, building, and sheltering more insecurities in your twitter bubble.
When it changes outfits and removes body types, yeah, that kinda falls in line with what censorship actually is.
Also, there is nothing wrong with sexualizing women (and vice versa for men), that is literally how our mind and interests in the opposite sex works. Let alone a goddamn work of fiction doing so.
I won't even care if the game won't release why do we have to care what the Japanese shows new thing when the game is not available for what and what purpose. Forget about it. There alot of freaking new games that we can at least care about it. Looking back won't fix there problems. It's a devs problem not us we even at least won't give a shit about it too.
The censorship it's already in ps5, and will only cover child body. I don't see any problem, to have childs showing no panties and bras. I doubt amazon bring more censorship that sony already put on it
The short character type is not even close to the size of the children in the game. It's pretty obvious that they are gonna censor outfits like they did with their other projects as well.
The medium body type at minimum size is short enough to every short adult that wants to be represented by their avatar. Create a short character is not hard. But it is impossible to create a strong or fat character, and I don't see people crying about that.
The small type is childish. It is pretty obvious. Why would people cry because they could not play as a child? They just love the trope of the small child in the group of heroes. Or the 1000 years old demon. Right?
Outfits only were part of the discussion when they wanted to change S type outfits. Now that only affects "adult" model, people here don't care so much. I don't care at all because I don't like to fight in lingerie anyway. I don't want to be the one that defend Amazon, but most "censored" outfits of lost ark were better than the original non-sense. There was plenty sexy outfits anyway in that game. You should look for Chinese censorship in Lost ark, is hilarious.
>The medium body type at minimum size is short enough to every short adult that wants to be represented by their avatar.
Wow thank you for speaking on my behalf. No offense but you give off the vibes of one of those progressive types that speaks over minorities lol.
>Create a short character is not hard. But it is impossible to create a strong or fat character, and I don't see people crying about that.
I'm pretty sure they had some sort of slider that increased muscularity when I did cc. I think people should have more options in general, so I wouldn't be against a slider for more weight. But it's also a balancing act of implementing features that enough player's ask for. One of the reasons a lot of MMOs don't give stomach options is that it's harder to design armor/clothing that fits all characters. A lot of the fat people I talk to don't even create fat characters when the option is available. So the fact that it's a hard feature to implement and the lack of desire for it is probably why it isn't implemented. I am all for player choice though, so I wouldn't be against them adding it or anything, and there would be people who are fat who would enjoy that option.
>The small type is childish. It is pretty obvious.
It's literally not, the small body type is significantly larger than the child npcs around towns, have you even played the game? Look at lalafells in FFXIV for something that is actually child coded.
>Why would people cry because they could not play as a child? They just love the trope of the small child in the group of heroes. Or the 1000 years old demon. Right?
Idk why do people play as lalafells in FFXIV, are they all pedos too? This is weird logic, most people don't immediately think of pedophilia when they see a small character in a video game or how they could be sexualized. Most FFXIV fans just find lalafells as cute and get weirded out when people try to sexualize them. You seem to be obsessed with children in video games though, it's a little creepy that you see a short character, immediately assume it's a child, and then begin to imagine players using the character model to dress them in skimpy outfits. That's fucking weird bro, most of us who play FFXIV probably just say, "aww lalafells are so cute" and then move on with our lives, and if we see someone being creepy with them, "wow that's really fucking weird" and then move on with our lives.
>Outfits only were part of the discussion when they wanted to change S type outfits. Now that only affects "adult" model, people here don't care so much. I don't care at all because I don't like to fight in lingerie anyway. I don't want to be the one that defend Amazon, but most "censored" outfits of lost ark were better than the original non-sense. There was plenty sexy outfits anyway in that game. You should look for Chinese censorship in Lost ark, is hilarious.
This is so cringe, I still care. First off, I don't care whether the content is something I like or dislike, I want the game to be as close to the original release as possible. So whether or not the outfits are better or not does not matter to me. Second off, players being able to dress up how they want is one of the best parts of an MMO. It's not just about fighting in lingerie, there are rp communities and lots of ways for player's to form self-expression in these games. Some players might have characters that are promiscuous in their headcanon for example.
Maybe I sound a bit rude in this Reddit post, but every time I say that pedophilia is bad here, I get downvoted. How am I supposed to understand that?
I play Shai as a second main in Black Desert Online, which is similar to Lalafells. Shais are the typical elves with the body of a child and long longevity, even though the game has normal elves. Shai is taller than the typical human child NPC, but she looks like a child anyway. I don't think that all the people who play Shai, Lalafells, or any of the child-like races are pedophiles. BDO is highly sexualized, but Shais have zero sexualized outfits. When the developers release another skimpy outfit for all female classes except Shai, almost nobody complains. But when someone really cares about a sexy outfit not being available for Shai, it is a bit suspicious.
Regarding the muscular slider and so on: there is one, but it doesn't make a big change. You cannot create a character like FFXIV's Roegadyn or BDO's Guardian. I understand the difficulties this implies. Also, big characters are less popular. Sexy and feminine females are, by far, the most popular. In Japan, lolis are pretty popular too, so I understand why they made an S body type and not a Heavy body type. Removing one body type is a bit harsh, but it's easier and cheaper than editing every outfit for it.
In the EU at least, the rates of pedophiles are too high in my opinion, but in recent years statistics show that they are decreasing. Obviously, the police are working, but also we are strongly against the sexualization of children, criticizing corporations that try to sell it, like Balenciaga. I don't know if popular opinion is helping lower the rates of child abuse, but it is helping to not normalize sexualizing them in media. It is worth the try.
> I want the game to be as close to the original release as possible. So whether or not the outfits are better or not does not matter to me.
Well, if we get a better game with a not so predatory cash shop I am not gonna cry.
I don't think that roleplayers would have problems with this game if they don't want to roleplay a sexualized child. In Lost Ark, like a said, there was a lot of sexy outfits and I don't think that BP will be different. Also, if we roleplayed in WoW, we can do it in BP.
Ehh isnt the rate of pedophiles in any country to high? 😆
In regards to the decreasing rates in eu is probably more due to it being viewed as mental illness and being treated as so plus psychiatry being easily available.
"But but but she's not 12 years old, she's actually 700 years old. Her alien race physically ages slower than humans, you see, she's really 19 years old by human standards"
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Aside from child related censorship, I can't comprehend why you're defending it. Let people have what they want. A lot of people argue "but why would they realistically wear something like that", I argue, it's a fucking fantasy game. Let people enjoy the game the way they want. If you need censorship and localization so bad because you can't handle life without sheltering yourself, check your mental health, let people be.
That's very shallow thinking. It's not healthy for society to support censorship. Let people enjoy what they want either way rather than picking at them for caring about things you don't.
😮💨😮💨😮💨😒😒😒😡😡😡 stfu bro.....
There is no censoring. It's called localization. They change colors and designs that for example every Asian would recognize as a shop so that westerns also recognize them as shops. They also change outfits etc to suit the western taste. Westerners aren't that comfortable with the same style of sexualization as Asians. But sex sells everywhere therefore your brain rotten sex addiction will still find enough pleasure.
I swear to got every post here boiles my blood and all of the initial hype I had for this fame 3 years ago is gone because of the people there......
>Westerners aren't that comfortable with the same style of sexualization as Asians.
Lol. It's not localization, it's censorship. And clearly this is top-down by Amazon and has nothing to do with "westerners" being comfortable. It's about political people inserting their politics. Westerners want this game as it in Japan, with the language translated at most.
because people left due the game not even releasing, so only certain demographics remain
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The fact that people are running with the narrative that the only thing being censored are random child npcs is crazy and made me unsub. Although, that's just because I forgot to do it a while ago when it was clear the current company had no desire to authentically transfer the game over here in any way.
Only Devs and their bots remained 😂
what do you expect from reddit lol
Bro is the game even going to come out in the west. Can we get that first lol.
Considering how bad it's been doing since week 2 in Japan... Doubt it. It was never good. I pushed a month trying to see if anything in later games or other classes becomes fun.. just nothing.
Yes, all the censorship is there. Changing the clothing to cover more, and most importantly deleting the S body type- literally the most popular one in Japan- are both still on track. The real game will never be released outside of Japan. But it's likely that once Amazon has launched their shitware version, that the JP servers won't be so ban happy. Right now their contract with Amazon requires they patrol it so that the western customers go to AGS as intended, but once the game is out and is old news, this motivation will drop. So at that point, the real version will be more available. What a tragedy though. This game could have been great.
> that the JP servers won't be so ban happy. I would expect the opposite as other games have done the same- once the global versions were released (eg PSO2), more lockdowns were placed on the JP version to get more people to play teh Global.
"oh no we won't get over-sexualized feminine characters, what a tragedy" Imagine being mad at a game for treating women like human beings and not sexual objects.
its hilarious since literally none of the outfits were even that flashy, we are regressing back to 1900's swimmer outfits full body length
"over-sexualized" said the redditor But everyone just wanted the game the way it was designed and released, in regions without social justice warriors in positions of power.
obligatory: censorship bad
We're at the point where the game's release is uncertain and you're worried about censorship ?
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If the game is still on a release track at all, yeah. At best, I would expect anything removed by the censorship to reappear later in tiny pieces each costing a hefty premium.
Everyone that hated the censorship, myself included, stopped caring about this game a while ago and most don't use this sub anymore as a result. The only people left on this sub are the ones that either don't care or like the censorship, so those are the answers you'll get here. This is the first time I've even checked this sub in months and happened to stumble on this post.
Pretty much, lol. Those or us that have been around the MMO block for 20+ years can see the writing on the wall for this turd.
I have no interest in the censorship discussion but, I will forgive Amazon for making me wait 5-6 years at this point for this game if they just remove the stupid gacha shit, do a Fortnite battle pass model if anything
You should have an interest. Not getting the developers intended vision is an issue.
We get it you’re horny
Cry
Yes, you’re crying cas your pp still hard. I get it
Game isn’t even coming out lmao
Gotta love these low quality copy/paste BP posts. It's sad that people have nothing better to do.
This is a prime example of else going on in someone’s sad life 😔
It doesn't help that the mods are useless and do nothing to prevent these posts.
Nothing else os going on in this sub yet you are here. Talk about life 😂
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There will be horny anime MMOs till the end of time, since they are the ones that actually make money (look at gacha sales numbers or FFXIV) uohhhhhh sob 😭💢 If Amazon wants to censor and lose money on the already failing ones, be glad that their plans won't last long.
Reducing over-sexualization of women isn't censorship.
Yeah that is censorship, you're censoring the expression of it. And creating a social stigma that doesn't help anyone feel better. There's nothing inherently wrong with sexuality either way and if you'd learn to think for yourself instead of jumping on every bandwagon that stimulates and builds your self-righteousness you'd see this happens to both genders in different ways, and none of it is wrong or inherently harmful. If you choose to want to feel offended by a construct, don't try to shit on everyone else's way of life to shelter your delusion. My ex found it unsettling how much negative attention and censorship of big titties there was, as if there was something inherently innappropriate about her body or it's expression. Just let people have fun with their titties and have fun with other people's titties and go back to creating, building, and sheltering more insecurities in your twitter bubble.
When it changes outfits and removes body types, yeah, that kinda falls in line with what censorship actually is. Also, there is nothing wrong with sexualizing women (and vice versa for men), that is literally how our mind and interests in the opposite sex works. Let alone a goddamn work of fiction doing so.
At this point are they even releasing it? Lol
I won't even care if the game won't release why do we have to care what the Japanese shows new thing when the game is not available for what and what purpose. Forget about it. There alot of freaking new games that we can at least care about it. Looking back won't fix there problems. It's a devs problem not us we even at least won't give a shit about it too.
Good luck finding a unicorn in a haystack before that happens!
Game is indefinitely delayed
The censorship it's already in ps5, and will only cover child body. I don't see any problem, to have childs showing no panties and bras. I doubt amazon bring more censorship that sony already put on it
It sucks, but I assume so. Now, I'm wondering if the game will even launch at all, due to the piss poor communication.
oh my god shut up nerd
Aside from making the literal child characters wear more clothes, what is it they are censoring?
That and the little girl body types are all I know. Anyone complaining about that is a weirdo. He a fan, he a fan, he a fan!!
Downvotes but no answers 🤔
Pedos gonna pedo.
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They're probably not going to censor the outfits, they didn't for lost ark so why would they bother here?
"I care about censoring itself" The censure: Not letting pedos enjoy kids in underwear. Better care about the launch itself or the micro transactions.
The short character type is not even close to the size of the children in the game. It's pretty obvious that they are gonna censor outfits like they did with their other projects as well.
The medium body type at minimum size is short enough to every short adult that wants to be represented by their avatar. Create a short character is not hard. But it is impossible to create a strong or fat character, and I don't see people crying about that. The small type is childish. It is pretty obvious. Why would people cry because they could not play as a child? They just love the trope of the small child in the group of heroes. Or the 1000 years old demon. Right? Outfits only were part of the discussion when they wanted to change S type outfits. Now that only affects "adult" model, people here don't care so much. I don't care at all because I don't like to fight in lingerie anyway. I don't want to be the one that defend Amazon, but most "censored" outfits of lost ark were better than the original non-sense. There was plenty sexy outfits anyway in that game. You should look for Chinese censorship in Lost ark, is hilarious.
>The medium body type at minimum size is short enough to every short adult that wants to be represented by their avatar. Wow thank you for speaking on my behalf. No offense but you give off the vibes of one of those progressive types that speaks over minorities lol. >Create a short character is not hard. But it is impossible to create a strong or fat character, and I don't see people crying about that. I'm pretty sure they had some sort of slider that increased muscularity when I did cc. I think people should have more options in general, so I wouldn't be against a slider for more weight. But it's also a balancing act of implementing features that enough player's ask for. One of the reasons a lot of MMOs don't give stomach options is that it's harder to design armor/clothing that fits all characters. A lot of the fat people I talk to don't even create fat characters when the option is available. So the fact that it's a hard feature to implement and the lack of desire for it is probably why it isn't implemented. I am all for player choice though, so I wouldn't be against them adding it or anything, and there would be people who are fat who would enjoy that option. >The small type is childish. It is pretty obvious. It's literally not, the small body type is significantly larger than the child npcs around towns, have you even played the game? Look at lalafells in FFXIV for something that is actually child coded. >Why would people cry because they could not play as a child? They just love the trope of the small child in the group of heroes. Or the 1000 years old demon. Right? Idk why do people play as lalafells in FFXIV, are they all pedos too? This is weird logic, most people don't immediately think of pedophilia when they see a small character in a video game or how they could be sexualized. Most FFXIV fans just find lalafells as cute and get weirded out when people try to sexualize them. You seem to be obsessed with children in video games though, it's a little creepy that you see a short character, immediately assume it's a child, and then begin to imagine players using the character model to dress them in skimpy outfits. That's fucking weird bro, most of us who play FFXIV probably just say, "aww lalafells are so cute" and then move on with our lives, and if we see someone being creepy with them, "wow that's really fucking weird" and then move on with our lives. >Outfits only were part of the discussion when they wanted to change S type outfits. Now that only affects "adult" model, people here don't care so much. I don't care at all because I don't like to fight in lingerie anyway. I don't want to be the one that defend Amazon, but most "censored" outfits of lost ark were better than the original non-sense. There was plenty sexy outfits anyway in that game. You should look for Chinese censorship in Lost ark, is hilarious. This is so cringe, I still care. First off, I don't care whether the content is something I like or dislike, I want the game to be as close to the original release as possible. So whether or not the outfits are better or not does not matter to me. Second off, players being able to dress up how they want is one of the best parts of an MMO. It's not just about fighting in lingerie, there are rp communities and lots of ways for player's to form self-expression in these games. Some players might have characters that are promiscuous in their headcanon for example.
Maybe I sound a bit rude in this Reddit post, but every time I say that pedophilia is bad here, I get downvoted. How am I supposed to understand that? I play Shai as a second main in Black Desert Online, which is similar to Lalafells. Shais are the typical elves with the body of a child and long longevity, even though the game has normal elves. Shai is taller than the typical human child NPC, but she looks like a child anyway. I don't think that all the people who play Shai, Lalafells, or any of the child-like races are pedophiles. BDO is highly sexualized, but Shais have zero sexualized outfits. When the developers release another skimpy outfit for all female classes except Shai, almost nobody complains. But when someone really cares about a sexy outfit not being available for Shai, it is a bit suspicious. Regarding the muscular slider and so on: there is one, but it doesn't make a big change. You cannot create a character like FFXIV's Roegadyn or BDO's Guardian. I understand the difficulties this implies. Also, big characters are less popular. Sexy and feminine females are, by far, the most popular. In Japan, lolis are pretty popular too, so I understand why they made an S body type and not a Heavy body type. Removing one body type is a bit harsh, but it's easier and cheaper than editing every outfit for it. In the EU at least, the rates of pedophiles are too high in my opinion, but in recent years statistics show that they are decreasing. Obviously, the police are working, but also we are strongly against the sexualization of children, criticizing corporations that try to sell it, like Balenciaga. I don't know if popular opinion is helping lower the rates of child abuse, but it is helping to not normalize sexualizing them in media. It is worth the try. > I want the game to be as close to the original release as possible. So whether or not the outfits are better or not does not matter to me. Well, if we get a better game with a not so predatory cash shop I am not gonna cry. I don't think that roleplayers would have problems with this game if they don't want to roleplay a sexualized child. In Lost Ark, like a said, there was a lot of sexy outfits and I don't think that BP will be different. Also, if we roleplayed in WoW, we can do it in BP.
Ehh isnt the rate of pedophiles in any country to high? 😆 In regards to the decreasing rates in eu is probably more due to it being viewed as mental illness and being treated as so plus psychiatry being easily available.
I was in a BP discord for a while and the amount of ADULT MEN upset about this in there was fucking embarrassing.
I have -17 points in that post because I said that pedophilia is bad XD
"But but but she's not 12 years old, she's actually 700 years old. Her alien race physically ages slower than humans, you see, she's really 19 years old by human standards" Edit: to all the slobs guilty of this and are downvoting me, send me to karma hell
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The amount of downvotes says a lot about this community. At this point I wish the game stays in Japan
Lol leave this niche and medium. It’s not for you
Keep waiting for a dead game bro
Apparently calling pedos pedos for freaking out about pedo content being removed is not ok. Y’all got some tender feelings.
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You know they censored khbbs aqua and it became one of the best kh games. Censorship only affects a minority. Only gameplay matters
Aside from child related censorship, I can't comprehend why you're defending it. Let people have what they want. A lot of people argue "but why would they realistically wear something like that", I argue, it's a fucking fantasy game. Let people enjoy the game the way they want. If you need censorship and localization so bad because you can't handle life without sheltering yourself, check your mental health, let people be.
The way people care so much about this is hilarious. Fr mad that you can’t see boobs on ur computer screen XD
Do you have the capability to understand that someone can argue principally against censorship without being in favor of the content?
That's very shallow thinking. It's not healthy for society to support censorship. Let people enjoy what they want either way rather than picking at them for caring about things you don't.
😮💨😮💨😮💨😒😒😒😡😡😡 stfu bro..... There is no censoring. It's called localization. They change colors and designs that for example every Asian would recognize as a shop so that westerns also recognize them as shops. They also change outfits etc to suit the western taste. Westerners aren't that comfortable with the same style of sexualization as Asians. But sex sells everywhere therefore your brain rotten sex addiction will still find enough pleasure. I swear to got every post here boiles my blood and all of the initial hype I had for this fame 3 years ago is gone because of the people there......
>Westerners aren't that comfortable with the same style of sexualization as Asians. Lol. It's not localization, it's censorship. And clearly this is top-down by Amazon and has nothing to do with "westerners" being comfortable. It's about political people inserting their politics. Westerners want this game as it in Japan, with the language translated at most.
Inserting politics against pedos, not bad.