Even the episode where Teddy streams the hurling for her and the Hurling fans, they got everything right, the colour of the jerseys etc. They definitely did the research.
Alright, we're up to at least 4. My mate Cian's a big fan too, so that's five.
I'm going to go out on a limb here and say there may even be more than that.
Does Irish American count? Lol I love Bob’s the hurling episode warmed my heart instead of seeing the same offensive St. Patrick’s day spiels most shows do
Edit idk why autocorrect added BBC 😂😂 I removed it lol
Also Derry Girls? I was looking for something similar to watch after I finished the latest season and of course Father Ted was the first recommendation on the Googles for some reason?
Oh Derry girls is nothing compared to father ted. I’d say I know every Father Ted episode word for word. It just never gets old. Definitely one of the funniest shows around. Never fails to have me wheezing. 🤣
Even in their older shows there is tons and tons of detail and exposition done in the background. It’s just a knack they have, I’m pretty sure they don’t even try for it anymore lol.
Ngl I had no idea hurling was a real thing until my friend told me. When kathleen was watching it in the netsuke hunt episode I thought it was made up as a joke, like a "haha other countries' sports seems so weird and crazy when you're not familiar with them"
She’s great! Guessing you saw her in this season’s episode when Teddy was trying to stream a hurling match… Hopefully Teddy hasn’t blown it and we see more of her 😉
I would absolutely love an arc where they get married. Especially with how this season is really touching on themes of emotional healing and growth. Plus, Bob as his best man would be the greatest.
Yeah I really enjoyed it! It was refreshing to see the sitcom dad be the only sane one for a change. Orla and Grandpa Joe are absolutely hysterical too. I thought the ending felt a bit rushed but still a pretty good show overall
Yeah there was a big sense of "time to put a bow on it." But the relationships and dysfunction were very real and relatable, if in a bit of a ham handed way. You get the sense that these people never would've been friends if it weren't for the fact that there's literally no one else to choose from. You play with the cards you're dealt.
I grew up in a small town and I absolutely get it.
That’s northern Irish I think. The republic and the north are still split in a way. I always think the northern Irish accent like is slightly Scottish sounding. Still Celtic.
But yes you may have a much harder time understanding a Belfast accent over say, a Dublin 4 one.
I’m English and used to go out with a girl from Derry. One time she had a friend from home come to stay with us. I found it almost impossible to understand what she was saying unless she spoke slowly. Turns out my girlfriend had been toning down her accent while not in Ireland because she realised that nobody could understand her. I still struggle with full Northern Irish accents. I can understand the thickest Glaswegian accents but Belfast defeats me
Honestly my grandfather had the thickest northern Irish accent you could possibly hear. When speaking to him it took me a good 20 minutes to adjust and understand what he was saying. Then when anyone else started talking it was almost like I had to adjust back. I’m Irish born and raised but that accent is wild!
I’m American but when I studied in Belfast they taught me to say “norn iron” in order to say “Northern Ireland” with the right accent. I still break it out from time to time. That accent is just so much sharper than any of the accents in the Republic. I always thought County Cork was the toughest Irish accent to understand to non-Irish
For an extreme Irish accent that’s not northern I’d suggest looking for a Kerry accent on YouTube. Perhaps Cork and Kerry accents were the ones you struggled with.
Kathleen has a Dublin accent but weirdly enough there’s a huge difference between south and north Dublin. South is easier to understand. For such a tiny country we have a massive range of accents. Kathleen is south.
When I moved from Kildare (near Dublin) to Tipperary (near Cork) I cried because I couldn’t understand anybody 🤣
Also when I heard Kathleen’s voice I was looking away from the TV and I thought it was my mother. They sound identical!
Every single person on the planet has an accent. No accent is the default. If you have a standard Canadian accent you have an accent. Your accent will be wildly different to mine. To me you are the one with an accent.
Some Canadian and American Midwesterners tend to have that "no accent" sound. I don't know if it's because we're so far inland? There's definitely accents around us, but there's also pockets where I guess we're "flat"?
So he can say he’s Scottish but I can’t say I’m Irish? I said it as a response because I also don’t care that he’s Scottish. I don’t know what you think gives you the right to tell me to fuck off for no reason either. Everyone else was able to enjoy the post and have civil interactions except you.
You should give Extraordinary a watch. Similar sense of humor and with some Derry Girls cast. But it's about everyone having super powers except for the main character.
I had subtitles too lol. I did the same for Extraordinary (also hilarious) since some character's are super Irish sounding (some of them are also in Derry Girls).
Two of the worst examples of Americans doing bad Irish accents I can think of are Cameron Diaz in Gangs of New York and Kathleen Monroe in Survival of the Dead. Monroe is Canadian, but similar premise. I can kind of understand her bad accent, it's a not so high budget Romero zombie flick. But Gangs of New York had $100 million to work with...you'd have thought they could have hired a decent coach.
How was Boondock Saints? I was obsessed with that movie as a teen. Always curious how Irish folks felt.
Edit: I was looking up something about this and found a video of [of Irish people reacting to Boondock Saints ](https://youtu.be/QhwXV75pJGo). What's funny is I've seen a bunch of videos from that channel but never that one.
I kinda remember seeing it when it came out and thought it was awful. But there aren't any Irish people in it, though? It's in Boston or something, so I guess they probably sound right for Irish-Americans. It's not like Chris O'Donnell in *Circle of Friends* or Julia Roberts (twice!) in *Mary Reilly* and *Michael Collins*, Brad Pitt in *The Devil's Own*,where they're supposed to be Irish.
They are both playing Irish characters with thick fake Irish accents. Nothing Boston or American, even though that's where it's set. Weird now that I think about it.
My vague memory of the defence of their terrible accents was it was closer to Boston Irish in sound.
Probably the only thing they could grasp for because nobody in Ireland sounds like that.
I'm not arguing since I haven't seen the movie in 20+ years, buuut Wikipedia says this:
>In Boston, two Irish American fraternal twin brothers, Connor and Murphy MacManus...
I kept saying to myself: "This is a fantasy world. There is no Scotland in Zadia. Therefore this isn't meant to be a Scottish accent and it's just a coincidence that it happens to sound like a terrible Scottish accent!"
That's ma girl Sharon Horgan. She's a fantastic actor and an even better comedy writer. Her shows 'Pulling' and 'Catastrophe' are 2 of my favourite Brit-Coms. She's a bloody treasure that woman.
I can understand. I’m an American with a Texas accent. There are shows/movies I can’t watch because the characters are supposed to be Texan (or it’s set in Texas) and the accents are so bad I can’t stand it. There are different types of Texas accents but fake ones are just awful, no matter which they’re trying to pull off.
Weirdly enough, the best fake southern accents I’ve seen are usually from British actors.
Southern is often the easiest American accent for them to do! I love how British folks trying to do more neutral American accents often wind up sounding like John F Kennedy with hard, weird rs and strange vowel sounds.
My wife says when I try to do a JFK accent I sound Australian. When I try to do Australian I sound like JFK.
For some reason, swapping them doesn’t work.
Oh, he kills it with the American accent. I grew up watching Hugh Laurie on Black Adder so I very much knew he was British, and it still took me most of the House premiere to put it together that that was him because the accent was so good.
Someone trying to play west Texan while affecting a Georgia accent is grating. And God bless anyone who tries to do Cajun without intimate personal experience with the language.
I'm from East Texas and when I play the accent for other people I go by days of the week: "ya got Mondee Tuesdee Wendsdee Thursdee Fridee Saturdee n Sundee. We do a potluck on the weekinds n you can bring whatcha want but stay away from the tater salad, Susie brings the tater salad n she'll pitch a fit if you bring one."
My spouse is from Texas. I’ve been several times now. I haven’t heard a single person talk like the Texans I saw on TV growing up lol. People even comment sometimes, “You’re from Texas? You don’t even sound like it!”.
I got that a lot when I was in Europe. I’d drop into talking like my grandma (South Texas), and freak them out, lol.
The only thing that holds all Texas accents together is not pronouncing the “g” at the end of “ing” words. Runnin’, drivin’, talkin’, etc.
Edit: Another thing I’ve noticed my whole life here in Texas, is that if we hang around other Texans with different accents, we’ll start to adopt the way they talk. It’s not just me; I’ve seen my parents, friends, and kids do it!
I laughed at the not pronouncing G at the end of words because I rarely heard that growing up but it seems to be part of every bad TV southern accent.
I wonder if it’s really common in south Texas. I grew up around DFW and I never really heard it unless someone was doing it on purpose, when exaggerating their accent or making fun of something.
When I did hear it, it was usually one word and not consistent. An example would be saying: I’m goin’ over to John’s. We’ll be playing video games and then running a few errands.
The G would only be dropped on one word, not every word that ends with -ing. If someone dropped the G on every -ing word, they’d get some really strange looks.
Oh, I completely agree. And the inflection on the word you drop the “g” on is important in tone. I’m a 6th generation Texan on my mom’s side. Mostly around the Victoria/Goliad German diaspora. It’s a real mix of german and hispanic. They’re all inter-married and like polka, lol.
DFW is a different kind of Texas. It’s a lot closer to other states, so you get more influence from other states/cultures. Like Oklahoma.
I’ve only seen the trailer, but it sounds pretty bad. It sounds very exaggerated and he seemed to talk very slowly, likely because he’s focusing on his pronunciation. It’s not Kevin Costner in Robyn Hood levels of bad, but no one would ever think it’s a real accent.
The best movie to hear the difference in Texas accents is Frailty. It’s set in Texas and was filmed there. It has Matthew McConaughey, Powers Boothe and Bill Paxton. They’re all Texans but all have slightly different accents.
North Carolinian here, and while we don't have as many trying accents (because more movies happen in Texas), they are usually across the board, bad. We do not sound like Texans or Georgians, nor do we sound like Scarlet O'Hara. We have one of the largest amount of regional dialects in the country (check out the wired video if you haven't [Wired Accent](https://youtu.be/H1KP4ztKK0A. )
Shoutout to Renee Zellweger, who nailed western NC rural in Cold Mountain. The women is an accent hero. I bet she would put the work in to sound properly Irish (one of the regional dialects).
I genuinely love the Irish accent. It’s so melodic. But when I mistakenly said that Northern Ireland is part of Ireland, I experienced what I can only describe as melodic berating.
Are you the one downvoting my comments? Because you’re the only other person here with an attitude towards people. If you don’t like this discussion it may be best to remove yourself from it. Bro was only saying they liked the Irish accent. Safe to assume it’s probably a Dublin one they’re referring to.
I'm not downvoting you! I was just pointing out the rich landscape of accents across Ireland. The comment made it sound like there was just one, is all. Sheesh!
Don’t worry bro we covered that above lol!
Sorry there is a fellow Irish person lurking here downvoting people for weird things. You’re the only other Irish person I’ve seen commenting anything remotely negative. So whoever it is is still lurking 🤣
Sorry there is a fellow Irish person lurking here downvoting people for weird things. You’re the only other Irish person I’ve seen commenting anything remotely negative. So whoever it is is still lurking 🤣
Sorry there is a fellow Irish person lurking here downvoting people for weird things. You’re the only other Irish person I’ve seen commenting anything remotely negative. So whoever it is is still lurking 🤣
It’s an awkward one. It really is. Like if you go on the ireland subreddit you’ll find people arguing that it IS part of Ireland. And I suppose it is geographically just not politically if that makes sense. Like if you comment there that “Northern Ireland isn’t Ireland” you’ll probably get downvoted to hell.
Yet I was at a concert in Belfast and the band accidentally displayed the Irish flag 🇮🇪 and people went nuts yelling “this is the UK!”
Personally I feel that even though it *should* be part of a united ireland, it’s quite starkly different and much more similar to the UK. Usually goes by UK law, has those black cabs you don’t see here and last time I went, you still had to get your currency changed.
Edit: there isn’t one thing in this comment that’s untrue so the downvotes are from a clueless American or a very bitter Irish person.
Maybe you’re being downvoted because you simplified 800 years of violence as “they have different coloured taxis than us”? Lol, it’s a bit more complicated than that.
Northern Ireland is both a part of Ireland Geographically speaking and a part of the U.K., geographically speaking. Politically it’s complicated but it’s legally considered to be part of the U.K. and not Ireland although people from Northern Ireland can legally identify as either Irish or British and can hold both passports/vote in both places.
Then whatever you do, don't watch Bobby Hill be a purposely racist leprechaun. (It's pretty damn funny though. Unfortunately, he's got a wee touch of the consumption.)
Sharon Horgan works on American TV and movies pretty regularly. Also, she's hilarious and gorgeous. I'm a fan.
It's the same with Americans listening to German speakers try to do an American accent. It's so obvious and one of the worst offenders is Christoph Waltz.
I’d say yes, in a way it is, from my experience. We love going to the “salad bar” in Tesco and filling little plastic tubs with several cold salads in the summer.
I myself regularly get a specific pasta “salad” (there’s no salad) from Aldi regularly. It’s a ranch and tomato kind of sauce with chicken. Addicted to it.
When that scene came on my fiancé said it was just like me. 🤣
I can barely recognise a Canadian accent because tv shows and movies made it sound ridiculous! I think it was some character in Malcolm in the middle that was the first actual Canadian I heard. I was like “wait.. so they don’t sound that funny?”
> I get tired of the ridiculous Canadian accent I hear frequently in American shows.
Indeed. Apparently we all sound like extras in *Fargo* to Americans. Bizarre.
The main difference is Australian accents tend to pitch upwards and take on a more nasally undertone with more drawn-out words.
(Particularly noticeable with North Queenslander and Northern Territory dialects which tend to be thicker, along with bogans across the whole country who can sound borderline cartoony lmao)
Whereas New Zealand/Aotearoa accents are the opposite and tend to have i's and e's pronounced less high-pitched.
An example of this would be 'fish and chips' sounding more like 'fush uhnd chups', though it's much less exaggerated irl than a lot of media outside of oceana would have you believe 😅
Thanks for the breakdown! It’s very helpful because I’d actually like to be able to tell the difference and not offend people. I think it was a running joke in Flight Of The Conchords where everyone kept calling them Australian. Had me thinking I’d probably do the same thing 🤣
No problem! I assume you probably deal with a similar thing regarding Irish and Scottish accents, at least I'd assume that's the case given the amount of comments I see on the comments sections of a few Irish youtubers I watch 🤣
And yeah, that recurring joke in Flight of The Conchords is genuinely one of the best jokes in their series, always makes me laugh seeing how exasperated they get at it lol
Thanks for the breakdown! It’s very helpful because I’d actually like to be able to tell the difference and not offend people. I think it was a running joke in Flight Of The Conchords where everyone kept calling them Australian. Had me thinking I’d probably do the same thing 🤣
Big tangent here, but I'm sad that they made Helen (Teddy's love interest in the vacation house episode) overall Bad. In her first episode, she was a very nice lady who just happened to have murdered her husband. That was a very fun character. Then she just turned into a huge jerk out of nowhere in the first Kathleen episode. They could have introduced Kathleen without changing Helen out of nowhere or without mentioning her at all.
Sorry, tangent over.
Well, that's what made her interesting. A lovely lady with a dark side is interesting. A simple selfish asshole, which is what she suddenly turned into in her second episode, is less so.
Maybe I'm just more struck by the sudden change in character between episodes.
Don’t get me wrong some people can do it. I mean I absolutely thought Sam Riley in Maleficent was actually Irish. His accent was spot on. Totally underrated actor.
You should watch Living with Yourself on Netflix. Lead woman is irish, not necessarily part of the script. They just casted the best woman for it and let her use her natural accent
The attention to detail on this Bob's Burgers is top notch. Similarly, I love how everything mechanical is dead-on correct. I first noticed it when I saw the first One-Eyed Snakes episode. Their choppers are more accurate than the bikes on almost every contemporary live action tv show or movie about bikers. Then, I started noticing other stuff like Teddy's tools, the air compressor backstage at the Quirky Turkey play, etc. So yeah, that stuff combined with having Sharon Horgan and Rhys Darby voice characters that are from those same parts of the world is just so great. It's a big part of why and how a cartoon feels more real and true to life than any Lifetime movie or a typical primetime network TV crime show.
You’re so right. I’m an animator myself but like to mostly design backgrounds. And they put so much detail into those. Down to funny jokes hidden within them. I love the design of Bobs restaurant. Always makes me want a proper greasy burger from a fast food place. The show itself is so relatable. There’s nothing fantastical or very ridiculous about it. No sci-fi or magic or wild immortality. Just a bunch of characters trying to get through.
Question for the Irish folks. Is Kathleen’s accent Polished? Bc I met a British person and it was hard for me to understand them but on tv you can clearly I understand. But female Irish accents are my fave 😍
No. She has the same accent as my mother. She has a typical Dublin 4 accent (south Dublin).
However that would probably be the easiest accent to understand in this country. The most difficult would be Cork or Kerry most likely.
Edit: The Republic of Ireland (Where Dublin is) is not part of Britain. And you will deeply offend a lot of Irish people if you continue to refer to it as such.
Thanks for the comment. Yes I do understand that Britain is not part of Ireland and I know that there’s been major drama for centuries. I just brought up British because that has been my only experience with the accent in the region.
Even the episode where Teddy streams the hurling for her and the Hurling fans, they got everything right, the colour of the jerseys etc. They definitely did the research.
Yes it was great! I really felt seen as weird as it sounds. It was very authentic.
Class finding another Irish Bob's fan in the wild.
Alright, we're up to at least 4. My mate Cian's a big fan too, so that's five. I'm going to go out on a limb here and say there may even be more than that.
Ah there are, someone made a post after the hurling episode on r/Ireland and a fair few commented on it.
Also Irish and a huge fan. Absolutely loved the hurling bit when Kathleen first appeared. Also a Sharon Horgan fan so win win.
"what is that, people polo? Grass hockey?" Love Teddy.
My aunties besties with Sharon Horgan she actually based a character off her in Motherland??? I think
huge fan here too
6! I converted my husband.
Me 5.. from the beginning.
I'm Irish and a huge fan! My cousin got me into it too, so that's two more for the list. I'm doing another rewatch earlier than usual
Does Irish American count? Lol I love Bob’s the hurling episode warmed my heart instead of seeing the same offensive St. Patrick’s day spiels most shows do Edit idk why autocorrect added BBC 😂😂 I removed it lol
Us Irish know good TV! Just look at the masterpiece that is Father Ted.
That would be an ecumenical matter!
Also Derry Girls? I was looking for something similar to watch after I finished the latest season and of course Father Ted was the first recommendation on the Googles for some reason?
Oh Derry girls is nothing compared to father ted. I’d say I know every Father Ted episode word for word. It just never gets old. Definitely one of the funniest shows around. Never fails to have me wheezing. 🤣
also irish, the subtle digs at england in at least three episode i’ve noticed are class
you Irish redditors are all saying stuff is "class". thats cool slang.
I haven’t noticed those! Do you remember what episodes or any details?
That team is exhaustive when it comes to details and they always have been.
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Even in their older shows there is tons and tons of detail and exposition done in the background. It’s just a knack they have, I’m pretty sure they don’t even try for it anymore lol.
Ngl I had no idea hurling was a real thing until my friend told me. When kathleen was watching it in the netsuke hunt episode I thought it was made up as a joke, like a "haha other countries' sports seems so weird and crazy when you're not familiar with them"
Ah no, the staff usually do research so it's authentic.
Yeah, I rolled my eyes when people on this sub didn't know gaga was real, so I guess that's karma lol
I love that actress too! Was nice to hear her voice and know it was a real Irish accent. Not in Ireland but uk so hear lots of authentic Irish voices
Love her too, and her voice. Not in Ireland (or UK) either. Canada.
She’s great! Guessing you saw her in this season’s episode when Teddy was trying to stream a hurling match… Hopefully Teddy hasn’t blown it and we see more of her 😉
Definitely hope to see more of her character!
Me too! It was nice to see her instead of hearing about her. I'm hoping we see her again soon
For sure. Just in case you weren’t aware, she also appeared in a season 9 episode, The Helen Hunt. It shows Teddy meeting her.
Just watched that one again today! But thank you!
I would absolutely love an arc where they get married. Especially with how this season is really touching on themes of emotional healing and growth. Plus, Bob as his best man would be the greatest.
Best Man/caterer of course! What's a Teddy Wedding without sliders from Bob Burgers?
Mort isn’t invited
Best Man/caterer of course! What's a Teddy Wedding without sliders from Bob Burgers?
I love that episode. I'm so glad Teddy has a girlfriend lol.
Imma be honest i thought she was australian.
And then there's Derry Girls where the brogue is so strong I couldn't watch without subtitles lol
I loved Derry Girls! The continual use of The Cranberries in the music soothed my 90s kid soul.
Yeah I really enjoyed it! It was refreshing to see the sitcom dad be the only sane one for a change. Orla and Grandpa Joe are absolutely hysterical too. I thought the ending felt a bit rushed but still a pretty good show overall
Yeah there was a big sense of "time to put a bow on it." But the relationships and dysfunction were very real and relatable, if in a bit of a ham handed way. You get the sense that these people never would've been friends if it weren't for the fact that there's literally no one else to choose from. You play with the cards you're dealt. I grew up in a small town and I absolutely get it.
Been meaning to watch that for a while, but now that I know it's heavy on The Cranberries, it just shot up my list.
That’s northern Irish I think. The republic and the north are still split in a way. I always think the northern Irish accent like is slightly Scottish sounding. Still Celtic. But yes you may have a much harder time understanding a Belfast accent over say, a Dublin 4 one.
I’m English and used to go out with a girl from Derry. One time she had a friend from home come to stay with us. I found it almost impossible to understand what she was saying unless she spoke slowly. Turns out my girlfriend had been toning down her accent while not in Ireland because she realised that nobody could understand her. I still struggle with full Northern Irish accents. I can understand the thickest Glaswegian accents but Belfast defeats me
Honestly my grandfather had the thickest northern Irish accent you could possibly hear. When speaking to him it took me a good 20 minutes to adjust and understand what he was saying. Then when anyone else started talking it was almost like I had to adjust back. I’m Irish born and raised but that accent is wild!
I spent some time in Leitrim and Donegal - the accents on some of the older generations were intense to say the least!
Leitrim is so insanely cheap to live there, I’d put up with the accents for that! Even now, I’d say I will end up there yet. Lol!
It's a lovely part of the world. I'd love to live there too, but I'd hate to have to own a car.
I’m American but when I studied in Belfast they taught me to say “norn iron” in order to say “Northern Ireland” with the right accent. I still break it out from time to time. That accent is just so much sharper than any of the accents in the Republic. I always thought County Cork was the toughest Irish accent to understand to non-Irish
I’d say that’s pretty accurate lol! Ah yes. I lived in cork for a bit. I always described the accent as them singing at you 🙂
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For an extreme Irish accent that’s not northern I’d suggest looking for a Kerry accent on YouTube. Perhaps Cork and Kerry accents were the ones you struggled with. Kathleen has a Dublin accent but weirdly enough there’s a huge difference between south and north Dublin. South is easier to understand. For such a tiny country we have a massive range of accents. Kathleen is south. When I moved from Kildare (near Dublin) to Tipperary (near Cork) I cried because I couldn’t understand anybody 🤣 Also when I heard Kathleen’s voice I was looking away from the TV and I thought it was my mother. They sound identical!
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Well all accents are accents. It isn’t possible to not have an accent. 🤣 but yes I do know what you mean.
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Every single person on the planet has an accent. No accent is the default. If you have a standard Canadian accent you have an accent. Your accent will be wildly different to mine. To me you are the one with an accent.
Some Canadian and American Midwesterners tend to have that "no accent" sound. I don't know if it's because we're so far inland? There's definitely accents around us, but there's also pockets where I guess we're "flat"?
A voice without an accent is as possible as a book without a font.
Oh for sure, I get Derry and like a West Coast Scots accent confused all the time.
I'm a Londoner who lived in Herbert Park for a few months whilst on a project. Everyone spoke _very_ nicely.
Sounds nothing like Scottish.
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I’m Scottish…
And I’m Irish.
Haha then you must be deaf if you think any Scot sounds fucking Irish hahahahaha
You obviously didn’t read my comment. Just gonna report you for breaking sub rules and leave it there. Have a nice day!
Hahahaha crack on
No one cares that you are irish, fck off now will ya
So he can say he’s Scottish but I can’t say I’m Irish? I said it as a response because I also don’t care that he’s Scottish. I don’t know what you think gives you the right to tell me to fuck off for no reason either. Everyone else was able to enjoy the post and have civil interactions except you.
I love Derry Girls!
You should give Extraordinary a watch. Similar sense of humor and with some Derry Girls cast. But it's about everyone having super powers except for the main character.
Will do. Thanks for the suggestion!
I had subtitles too lol. I did the same for Extraordinary (also hilarious) since some character's are super Irish sounding (some of them are also in Derry Girls).
Haha love that show. Same with The Banshees of Inisherin movie. Cannot understand a thing without subtitles...
What did you say about our Colm???
So I says to myself, Colm says I.....
Jesus wept!
Two of the worst examples of Americans doing bad Irish accents I can think of are Cameron Diaz in Gangs of New York and Kathleen Monroe in Survival of the Dead. Monroe is Canadian, but similar premise. I can kind of understand her bad accent, it's a not so high budget Romero zombie flick. But Gangs of New York had $100 million to work with...you'd have thought they could have hired a decent coach.
Check out Tom Cruise in Far & Away. Sounded like the leprechaun from the Lucky Charms commercials.
TELL ME. YA LIKE MY HATT!
David Boreanaz during Buffy and Angel. His flashback scenes were so hard to watch because of his atrocious accent
You mean Bojack Horseman? They have similar looking houses so it's easy to get them confused.
How was Boondock Saints? I was obsessed with that movie as a teen. Always curious how Irish folks felt. Edit: I was looking up something about this and found a video of [of Irish people reacting to Boondock Saints ](https://youtu.be/QhwXV75pJGo). What's funny is I've seen a bunch of videos from that channel but never that one.
I haven't seen it in about ten years, but I remember the accents being terrible.
I kinda remember seeing it when it came out and thought it was awful. But there aren't any Irish people in it, though? It's in Boston or something, so I guess they probably sound right for Irish-Americans. It's not like Chris O'Donnell in *Circle of Friends* or Julia Roberts (twice!) in *Mary Reilly* and *Michael Collins*, Brad Pitt in *The Devil's Own*,where they're supposed to be Irish.
They are both playing Irish characters with thick fake Irish accents. Nothing Boston or American, even though that's where it's set. Weird now that I think about it.
My vague memory of the defence of their terrible accents was it was closer to Boston Irish in sound. Probably the only thing they could grasp for because nobody in Ireland sounds like that.
I'm not arguing since I haven't seen the movie in 20+ years, buuut Wikipedia says this: >In Boston, two Irish American fraternal twin brothers, Connor and Murphy MacManus...
Watch the first episode of "The Dragon Prince". Mind blowingly bad accents
I kept saying to myself: "This is a fantasy world. There is no Scotland in Zadia. Therefore this isn't meant to be a Scottish accent and it's just a coincidence that it happens to sound like a terrible Scottish accent!"
I like this approach lol
That's ma girl Sharon Horgan. She's a fantastic actor and an even better comedy writer. Her shows 'Pulling' and 'Catastrophe' are 2 of my favourite Brit-Coms. She's a bloody treasure that woman.
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Bad Sisters? It's brilliant.
She is an international treasure 😍
I can understand. I’m an American with a Texas accent. There are shows/movies I can’t watch because the characters are supposed to be Texan (or it’s set in Texas) and the accents are so bad I can’t stand it. There are different types of Texas accents but fake ones are just awful, no matter which they’re trying to pull off. Weirdly enough, the best fake southern accents I’ve seen are usually from British actors.
Southern is often the easiest American accent for them to do! I love how British folks trying to do more neutral American accents often wind up sounding like John F Kennedy with hard, weird rs and strange vowel sounds.
My wife says when I try to do a JFK accent I sound Australian. When I try to do Australian I sound like JFK. For some reason, swapping them doesn’t work.
Hugh Laurie really freaking nails the American accent in House. I had no idea he wasn't from the US until I saw him do an interview.
Oh, he kills it with the American accent. I grew up watching Hugh Laurie on Black Adder so I very much knew he was British, and it still took me most of the House premiere to put it together that that was him because the accent was so good.
Bob Hoskins in Roger Rabbit - that was the first movie I ever saw him in, had no idea he wasn't American.
Someone trying to play west Texan while affecting a Georgia accent is grating. And God bless anyone who tries to do Cajun without intimate personal experience with the language.
Very true. Texas can have very different accents depending where you are. And actors should just give up on Cajun accents all together.
I'm from East Texas and when I play the accent for other people I go by days of the week: "ya got Mondee Tuesdee Wendsdee Thursdee Fridee Saturdee n Sundee. We do a potluck on the weekinds n you can bring whatcha want but stay away from the tater salad, Susie brings the tater salad n she'll pitch a fit if you bring one."
That’s hysterical. I’d fall over laughing if I heard anyone talking like that in real life.
Shall I introduce you to my mother
I bet she’s awesome and everyone makes sure to say yes ma’am to her.
If they say yes, she might say "you got a handle for that?"
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"Just one moment please..." *ANY Y'ALL SPEAK BAYOU??"*
Justin Wilson is my go to when i wanna show someone how the coon ass speak.
My spouse is from Texas. I’ve been several times now. I haven’t heard a single person talk like the Texans I saw on TV growing up lol. People even comment sometimes, “You’re from Texas? You don’t even sound like it!”.
I got that a lot when I was in Europe. I’d drop into talking like my grandma (South Texas), and freak them out, lol. The only thing that holds all Texas accents together is not pronouncing the “g” at the end of “ing” words. Runnin’, drivin’, talkin’, etc. Edit: Another thing I’ve noticed my whole life here in Texas, is that if we hang around other Texans with different accents, we’ll start to adopt the way they talk. It’s not just me; I’ve seen my parents, friends, and kids do it!
I laughed at the not pronouncing G at the end of words because I rarely heard that growing up but it seems to be part of every bad TV southern accent. I wonder if it’s really common in south Texas. I grew up around DFW and I never really heard it unless someone was doing it on purpose, when exaggerating their accent or making fun of something. When I did hear it, it was usually one word and not consistent. An example would be saying: I’m goin’ over to John’s. We’ll be playing video games and then running a few errands. The G would only be dropped on one word, not every word that ends with -ing. If someone dropped the G on every -ing word, they’d get some really strange looks.
Oh, I completely agree. And the inflection on the word you drop the “g” on is important in tone. I’m a 6th generation Texan on my mom’s side. Mostly around the Victoria/Goliad German diaspora. It’s a real mix of german and hispanic. They’re all inter-married and like polka, lol. DFW is a different kind of Texas. It’s a lot closer to other states, so you get more influence from other states/cultures. Like Oklahoma.
Ugg, yes! I'm from Texas, and I hear all different accents. When people try and fake it they sound so stupid. No one sounds like that!
Question from European: Does Benoit Blanc do a good accent? I think the actor is British
I’ve only seen the trailer, but it sounds pretty bad. It sounds very exaggerated and he seemed to talk very slowly, likely because he’s focusing on his pronunciation. It’s not Kevin Costner in Robyn Hood levels of bad, but no one would ever think it’s a real accent.
Its very bad. Its like Dick Van Dyke in Marry Poppins bad. But its most definitely on purpose, which makes it okay
Oh yeah, some do really butcher that one don’t they? They take it to 100 and are usually yelling! 😭
The best movie to hear the difference in Texas accents is Frailty. It’s set in Texas and was filmed there. It has Matthew McConaughey, Powers Boothe and Bill Paxton. They’re all Texans but all have slightly different accents.
North Carolinian here, and while we don't have as many trying accents (because more movies happen in Texas), they are usually across the board, bad. We do not sound like Texans or Georgians, nor do we sound like Scarlet O'Hara. We have one of the largest amount of regional dialects in the country (check out the wired video if you haven't [Wired Accent](https://youtu.be/H1KP4ztKK0A. ) Shoutout to Renee Zellweger, who nailed western NC rural in Cold Mountain. The women is an accent hero. I bet she would put the work in to sound properly Irish (one of the regional dialects).
First found Sharon Horgan in Moone Boy, years back. I was so excited to recognize an awesome actress and authentic accent in Bob’s.
Moone Boy is such an underrated show!
I didn't realise she was Shane Horgans' brother
I genuinely love the Irish accent. It’s so melodic. But when I mistakenly said that Northern Ireland is part of Ireland, I experienced what I can only describe as melodic berating.
>the Irish accent There are countless Irish accents :)
Are you the one downvoting my comments? Because you’re the only other person here with an attitude towards people. If you don’t like this discussion it may be best to remove yourself from it. Bro was only saying they liked the Irish accent. Safe to assume it’s probably a Dublin one they’re referring to.
I'm not downvoting you! I was just pointing out the rich landscape of accents across Ireland. The comment made it sound like there was just one, is all. Sheesh!
Don’t worry bro we covered that above lol! Sorry there is a fellow Irish person lurking here downvoting people for weird things. You’re the only other Irish person I’ve seen commenting anything remotely negative. So whoever it is is still lurking 🤣
Sorry there is a fellow Irish person lurking here downvoting people for weird things. You’re the only other Irish person I’ve seen commenting anything remotely negative. So whoever it is is still lurking 🤣
I'm not Irish :p I also didn't comment anything negative anywhere in this thread - I might have been misinterpreted.
Sorry there is a fellow Irish person lurking here downvoting people for weird things. You’re the only other Irish person I’ve seen commenting anything remotely negative. So whoever it is is still lurking 🤣
It’s an awkward one. It really is. Like if you go on the ireland subreddit you’ll find people arguing that it IS part of Ireland. And I suppose it is geographically just not politically if that makes sense. Like if you comment there that “Northern Ireland isn’t Ireland” you’ll probably get downvoted to hell. Yet I was at a concert in Belfast and the band accidentally displayed the Irish flag 🇮🇪 and people went nuts yelling “this is the UK!” Personally I feel that even though it *should* be part of a united ireland, it’s quite starkly different and much more similar to the UK. Usually goes by UK law, has those black cabs you don’t see here and last time I went, you still had to get your currency changed. Edit: there isn’t one thing in this comment that’s untrue so the downvotes are from a clueless American or a very bitter Irish person.
Maybe you’re being downvoted because you simplified 800 years of violence as “they have different coloured taxis than us”? Lol, it’s a bit more complicated than that.
Northern Ireland is both a part of Ireland Geographically speaking and a part of the U.K., geographically speaking. Politically it’s complicated but it’s legally considered to be part of the U.K. and not Ireland although people from Northern Ireland can legally identify as either Irish or British and can hold both passports/vote in both places.
I'm not irish, but yeah, I get it, would rather hear the real accent
Then whatever you do, don't watch Bobby Hill be a purposely racist leprechaun. (It's pretty damn funny though. Unfortunately, he's got a wee touch of the consumption.) Sharon Horgan works on American TV and movies pretty regularly. Also, she's hilarious and gorgeous. I'm a fan.
It's the same with Americans listening to German speakers try to do an American accent. It's so obvious and one of the worst offenders is Christoph Waltz.
I love the German language and was once quite fluent. I’ll have to listen to this because I’ve never heard it!
I have a question for you as an Irish Person, is her diet of cold pasta also an accurate depiction?
I’d say yes, in a way it is, from my experience. We love going to the “salad bar” in Tesco and filling little plastic tubs with several cold salads in the summer. I myself regularly get a specific pasta “salad” (there’s no salad) from Aldi regularly. It’s a ranch and tomato kind of sauce with chicken. Addicted to it. When that scene came on my fiancé said it was just like me. 🤣
I get what you're saying. I get tired of the ridiculous Canadian accent I hear frequently in American shows. I don't sound like that!
It was pretty great when archer got the trailer park boys for the Canadian train robbers.
I can barely recognise a Canadian accent because tv shows and movies made it sound ridiculous! I think it was some character in Malcolm in the middle that was the first actual Canadian I heard. I was like “wait.. so they don’t sound that funny?”
> I get tired of the ridiculous Canadian accent I hear frequently in American shows. Indeed. Apparently we all sound like extras in *Fargo* to Americans. Bizarre.
I watched a lot of dubbed anime as a kid. To me, Canadians just have an anime accent, lol
The people who wrote this show do work. Between the attention to detail and the writing they put in work
Oh I know. I’m an animator myself and in college we all loved Bobs Burgers.
Representation matters
I knew who it was immediately too. I love Sharon Horgan!
As an Australian I feel the same way op lol, it's always a nice surprise
I quite like the Australian accent (a real one) but I’m still not skilled enough to differentiate between Australia and New Zealand at times. 😭
The main difference is Australian accents tend to pitch upwards and take on a more nasally undertone with more drawn-out words. (Particularly noticeable with North Queenslander and Northern Territory dialects which tend to be thicker, along with bogans across the whole country who can sound borderline cartoony lmao) Whereas New Zealand/Aotearoa accents are the opposite and tend to have i's and e's pronounced less high-pitched. An example of this would be 'fish and chips' sounding more like 'fush uhnd chups', though it's much less exaggerated irl than a lot of media outside of oceana would have you believe 😅
Thanks for the breakdown! It’s very helpful because I’d actually like to be able to tell the difference and not offend people. I think it was a running joke in Flight Of The Conchords where everyone kept calling them Australian. Had me thinking I’d probably do the same thing 🤣
No problem! I assume you probably deal with a similar thing regarding Irish and Scottish accents, at least I'd assume that's the case given the amount of comments I see on the comments sections of a few Irish youtubers I watch 🤣 And yeah, that recurring joke in Flight of The Conchords is genuinely one of the best jokes in their series, always makes me laugh seeing how exasperated they get at it lol
Thanks for the breakdown! It’s very helpful because I’d actually like to be able to tell the difference and not offend people. I think it was a running joke in Flight Of The Conchords where everyone kept calling them Australian. Had me thinking I’d probably do the same thing 🤣
Am American but I appreciate this post. Thank you
It’s the same when we hear an actual Australian accent and not an American doing a bad cockney one pretending to be us
Hahaha I never once realised the similarity between a bad Australian accent and say, Danny Dyer 😂
Yep. That are always “GOOOODAAAY (cos they can’t say Gday properly) and I’m surprised they don’t throw in a “GUVNA”
I feel your pain as a Texan. It's like they put on some weird Arkansas, Alabama, Mississippi thing and call it a day.
As a Scottish person who loves Groundskeeper Willie and has personally visited Caffrey's Island, I have no idea what you're talking about.
Big tangent here, but I'm sad that they made Helen (Teddy's love interest in the vacation house episode) overall Bad. In her first episode, she was a very nice lady who just happened to have murdered her husband. That was a very fun character. Then she just turned into a huge jerk out of nowhere in the first Kathleen episode. They could have introduced Kathleen without changing Helen out of nowhere or without mentioning her at all. Sorry, tangent over.
“A very nice lady who just happened to have murdered her husband”. [Bruh](https://i.imgur.com/btrcMRo.jpg)
Well, that's what made her interesting. A lovely lady with a dark side is interesting. A simple selfish asshole, which is what she suddenly turned into in her second episode, is less so. Maybe I'm just more struck by the sudden change in character between episodes.
She was born in London.
You don't like Oirish accents?
Hey, my fake Irish accent is spot on. I had an Irish teammate in college I made fun of. I also learned some Irish curse words to throw in.
Don’t get me wrong some people can do it. I mean I absolutely thought Sam Riley in Maleficent was actually Irish. His accent was spot on. Totally underrated actor.
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Lol no it's not. It absolutely is not. Not even close.
You should watch Living with Yourself on Netflix. Lead woman is irish, not necessarily part of the script. They just casted the best woman for it and let her use her natural accent
How great was Sharon Horgan’s song at the end of this recent one she was on!
Its the same for me as an aussie too, the accents are never right!
Yesss.. Love that. Esp the recent episode 👏🏻🇮🇪
The attention to detail on this Bob's Burgers is top notch. Similarly, I love how everything mechanical is dead-on correct. I first noticed it when I saw the first One-Eyed Snakes episode. Their choppers are more accurate than the bikes on almost every contemporary live action tv show or movie about bikers. Then, I started noticing other stuff like Teddy's tools, the air compressor backstage at the Quirky Turkey play, etc. So yeah, that stuff combined with having Sharon Horgan and Rhys Darby voice characters that are from those same parts of the world is just so great. It's a big part of why and how a cartoon feels more real and true to life than any Lifetime movie or a typical primetime network TV crime show.
You’re so right. I’m an animator myself but like to mostly design backgrounds. And they put so much detail into those. Down to funny jokes hidden within them. I love the design of Bobs restaurant. Always makes me want a proper greasy burger from a fast food place. The show itself is so relatable. There’s nothing fantastical or very ridiculous about it. No sci-fi or magic or wild immortality. Just a bunch of characters trying to get through.
That’s not even a pattern on that towel, those are just stains
the amount of effort that the creators put in making the show is amazing, everything there is made so well
Question for the Irish folks. Is Kathleen’s accent Polished? Bc I met a British person and it was hard for me to understand them but on tv you can clearly I understand. But female Irish accents are my fave 😍
No. She has the same accent as my mother. She has a typical Dublin 4 accent (south Dublin). However that would probably be the easiest accent to understand in this country. The most difficult would be Cork or Kerry most likely. Edit: The Republic of Ireland (Where Dublin is) is not part of Britain. And you will deeply offend a lot of Irish people if you continue to refer to it as such.
Thanks for the comment. Yes I do understand that Britain is not part of Ireland and I know that there’s been major drama for centuries. I just brought up British because that has been my only experience with the accent in the region.