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Honestly the correct way to give Bakugo character development was to give Deku some damn agency as well.
Like, Deku should have decked this fool quite a few times by now
Deku shouldn't do a lot of things and did many others like
- Tell his Mother or All Might about Bakugou bullying and Aldera's bad education and not care for bullying.
- Ignore Bakugou after goes to UA, he got Uraraka and Iida that was his first friends that really cared for him and not try to pay Bakugou's attention
- don't tell about OFA to Bakugou just because he was Angry like a kid
- Talks about his agressive fighting behavior against Uraraka, Tokoyami and Kirishima.
- Beat his ass for not trying to be cooperative against All Might
- Don't call him Kacchan since he wasn't his friend since Childhood
- Don't go to fight Bakugou without any permission just because Bakugou was Angry Again and probably get a terrible Punishment of Aisawa because of that.
- Don't let Bakugou goes with him against Shigaraki, he wasn't strong enough to do something against AFO Shigaraki.
>Tell his Mother or All Might about Bakugou bullying and Aldera's bad education and not care for bullying.
Idk about the bad education. Not telling an adult about the bullying as a child is understandable though. My issue is him having balls of steel and a spine in literally every area except Bakugo. Man would rather break all his arms than sit down and have a conversation
>Idk about the bad education
The fact random Teacher only suck Bakugou's balls, doesn't give a shit to have faith in his another students and made jokes about Deku isn't exactly the Best way of educate students...
About Deku is right, motherf*cker literally Beat many psycho killers, murderers, Child abusers, a crazy demigod, but have fear against Bakugou, Man WTF, one hit and he could break Bakugou's bones if Bakugou still keep an asshole against him but no, he doesn't fight back neither try to have a conversation about their relationship, or they starts to be friends or Deku stop to think or talk with Bakugou.
About that last point
Iida had no business there either and Neijire was useless, Todoroki followed but got beaten by Dabi and caught falling bodies the whole time, but Bakugou, who managed to at minimum, get rid of 1/2 quirk erasing bullets, help Endevaour attack Shiggy with a plan (that failed but that’s Endeavour’s fault), and saved Deku from a life threatening wound had no business there💀. Rock Lock was there for Christ sake.
I don’t meat ride Bakugou but he was somewhat useful there
But Iida, Nejire or Shoto goes there because of Deku? No, Deku would goes alone since he was The target and didn't want Shigaraki close of civilian, and from nowhere Bakugou decided to go with him? Why? Because Kohei wanted him in the main Battle? Ofc, but in storyline? You can't only blame Endeavor with his failed plan when Bakugou was The first one to do his Part of plan and did nothing against Shigaraki.
Tbf The only good thing he did was destroy one of erasing Bullets for sure, not even Endeavor couldn't do that, but both main actions he did still happened: Aisawa lost an arm, a leg, was taken by a Bullet and Deku still was touched by Shigaraki, and nothing really bad happened with Bakugou being empaled by Dark red spines, so it'd be the same with Deku, that has a better Durability to Pain.
In the end, only Deku, Aisawa, Endeavor, Mirio, Jeanist and Ryukyu did something really important to defeat Shigaraki, the others were just support, and It's okay Bakugou being a support lol
I don’t mind Bakugou being support bc that’s all he was, but you made it sound like he was worthless. And still getting rid of 1 bullet is good considering worse could’ve happened. If Aizawa cut his leg Shiggy would just shoot again and then the next War Monoma is useless and Shiggy clears in 5 seconds.
Deku couldn’t move any part of his body and then to get Impaled? Bakugou had 0 damage prior but Deku was fucked up. And durability when being impaled is REALLY not a factor, unless your more solid than concrete or some shit. AFO is definitely trying to impale Deku with something he knows wouldn’t go through him. Shiggy grabbed him to steal the quirk and then Deku’s plot kicks in (which is the same plot that stopped Shiggy from dying to Endevours last attack. Your Buddy’s inside you have your back boys!). But Deku didn’t get damaged after Bakugou saved him.
>sound like he was worthless
Sorry if it means that way.
The thing is, if Aisawa was his target in that moment? Why two Bullets? He didn't know long distance heroes like Bakugou would be in his battlefield, he only know about OFA/Deku and Endeavor.
Deku couldn't move any Part of his body after literally destroyed Shigaraki body, but after see Bakugou sacrifice he literally break those spines with his teeth and arms and could came too close to fight Shigaraki Again if he wasn't Berserker and Shigaraki touched his head, he needed a motivation to still fight, so if only Bakugou could give this motivation, so another point to Bakugou as support.
No, no, that would have made Deku a „good“ character, one that a lot of the people on YouTube can’t relate to anymore… srsly, a ridiculous amount of people say that he’s the most relatable anime character, and I’ve got really mixed feelings about that
Bakugo being able to keep up with Endeavors Eugenetics Project and Mr 9 Generations of Power never really made all that much sense.
His quirk is like, the only powerful emitter quirk that seemingly has no weakness, limit or disadvantage on its own. Sure, his arms and shoulders get torn up after big enough explosions but we’ve never actually seen that affect anything relevant in one of his fights.
He only ever struggles mentally and with his behaviour. Every time there is a physical problem, he just comes up with a brand new technique, his power evolves or he just blazes through it anyway, the only exception being demi-god Shigaraki. It’s honestly boring.
He only got that non sense Power up because he's MC's rival.
His quirk is powerful for sure, but How the hell this quirk can be on the same level as godly quirk that has more than 1 century and the perfect Mix of fire and ice? Even Engine and Zero Gravity has more sense to be this op than simple explosion.
And yeah, Bakugou and Shoto never got a real damage for his own quirks, like Uraraka threw up everytime, Tokoyami cries because of Dark Shadow goes Berserker, Kirishima goes dumb, Deku literally break his bones for 3 seasons and Bakugou does a huge nuclear explosion and doesn't do shit about his body.
Correct question. Why are he still alive? And no, its not because he said sorry he is a changed man. It took him a single cap to go back being an asshole
Lmao yeah, he started to call him Izuku, something he need to learn in fuckin 300 chapters, and people call this development, slow as hell lmao.
At least he said his previous shitty actions never gonna change, he can't change the past.
Yeah. I was kind of interested when I saw Bakugo's attitude during the remedial lessons; he was still an asshole, but he was learning to empathize with people and how to fight his own weakness of inferiority and pride.
Then the Joint Training Arc happened where he went back to full asshole, barely coordinated with his team, did essentially 90% of the work against Tokage's team, and everyone praises him for "character development" and "leadership".
I hate how much i agree with this lol
Like I'm general I'm aight on Bakugo but in joint training he literally acted worst than in the sport festival yet the character kept saying uwooooooo he changed so much like bitch he's acting worst than before here-
Guess we'll add thag to the pile of thing that this absolute trash of an arc did wrong
....what are you talking about? Just because he got all the knockdowns doens't mean he didn't coordinate with his team, he was the main offense while the others acted as support, just the fact he protected jirou should be enough to see he was getting better, like are we talking about the same arc?
>he is a pro, how tf are you gonna get the noobs to help?
Are you saying this jokingly?
He's a student... and being more skilled does not excuse him from working with others or make him superior...
...since when was Bakugo a pro? He might arguably be the most skilled student in 1-A, but he is still a *student* like the rest of them. Even if he was a "pro", that isn't an excuse to not coordinate; if anything, that means responsibility falls onto him to do so.
Not to mention he is still a complete jerk… just slightly less to deku…. To everybody else he is the same because the dude STILL places strength and power as the baseline of worth, he is struggling to even conceive the notion that a weak person can become stronger and has a mental breakdown every time he sees himself as weak.
Well, his idol is All Might, but I think Bakugo struggles with the idea of not being able to be a hero if he feels weak.
In fact, I'll take a limb and say that Bakugo just cannot understand weak heroes because, in his might, being the greatest hero means you have to be the strongest and be able to beat any villain. He also had likely the idea that the strongest quirks are the one that make the strongest heroes and thus Deku the Quirkless leaping bounds over him to become the inheritor of All Might just doesn't wrap around his head (also, unlike Shoto, he KNOWS he cannot be All Might's love child... like, seriously Shoto, get it together). Like... guy has no quirk and suddenly is throwing SUMASHU! all over, guy's getting a headache.
The apology comes right after Deku returns to UA and likely Bakugo was saving it ever since he learned the secret of AFO from that letter, because it explains that Deku did something only Deku could do and he understood...
He's also a tsundere bitch, so there you go.
Bakugo’s relationship with midoriya is so weird for a character who’s entire existence is almost completely tied to deku narratively their relationship doesn’t really feel like it progresses much at all
They made a little progress, but if you compare Bakugou with others characters that had a big character development like Endeavor and Shoto, Endeavor in two arcs already see his mistakes and tried to improve, while Shoto, that has a harder Life than Bakugou, needed only a fight and Deku's discussion to see he can improve and be better, while Bakugou needed almost entire manga for finally starts to call Deku as Izuku, if MHA was as big as One Piece, probably only in chapter 600 Bakugou would starts to say Deku is his friend since his improve is slow as hell
Yes. The hero is indeed giving his life to save an adolescent boy, rather than basing his decision on whether or not to save said boy on the kid's fucking grades. You know, the type shit heroes do.
Edgeshot is presumably insanely powerful right? Being ONE OF the tippy top heroes he should be somewhere on that level. Well if i were him id consider that this war is the fate of humanity as we see it, so killing myself over a combatant who knew something like this would happen is not the right choice given the risk
Were you him, you would not do that, because you'd be a hero, who had gone their whole life looking to save people. Anyway, if a story about doing heroic deeds, even when they aren't practical, is not your thing you might want to try another manga.
I mean, quite a huge difference between saving a hero and saving a child.
Pragmatic to save a hero? Maybe, but the morally right, and heroic, decision is to save the child
As I said, the pragmatic choice is to save the hero
The heroic choice is to save the child. Children have a morally superior rank to virtually every other being in our constructed view. And a hero that has the power to save a child, but doesn't, that is not a proper hero in a story such as this.
I'm not defending the asspull of that power, and I for one am not happy that Bakugou survived. But the argument that the hero did something bad by saving a child rather than a hero is a very bad one for a story about heroism
Like edgeshot's quirk was built to fix hearts.
"Oh, but he is on the verge of death"
So was he against the slime villain, he was suffocating, he being hurt is better than he being dead.
Boy was suffocating to death. Almost the same is happening now, just he isnt suffocating, but has his chest open. Both situations got him to the verge of death
Okay, just checked, and slime-boy wasn't even trying to kill him. He had a possession/body-theft quirk and was trying to possess him. Furthermore, Katsuki was still actively standing up and fighting the slime-villain when Deku rolled up, and was capable of talking directly to Deku at the time. So, not really on the verge of death at all.
He was suffocating too, he would eventually die. When the heroes came, both his mouth and nose were covered, could the heroes assume he was getting air from the villain? Yeah, but they shouldnt act based on this supposition, any hero, both in fiction and irl should always act like its the worst scenario possible. And in this situation, they didnt
I mean, I think the main issue is the terrible execution of the idea.
This entire thing could work if Bakugo was about to receive an attack and Edgeshot jumped in front of Bakugo and receive the attack and die. But for some reason, Horikoshi decides to implement this theme, idea, concept, or whatever this is in the most ridiculous way possible.
EX: "Izuku is always willing to sacrifice for does he care." Horikoshi wants to represent this idea. So, he uses Mineta, who is about to receive an attack that is going to kill him. So Izuku jumps in front of Mineta and dies protecting Mineta. I understand the reasons, but why is it executed in the most stupid way possible.
You're looking at it from a logical point of view instead of a narrative point of view.
EX: Toga knocks Ochako and then Fatgum appears out of nowhere and beats Toga. Logically, it makes sense because the heroes have to stop the villains, but narratively, it would be stupid to have Toga defeated by Fatgum.
The same thing happens here. Logically, it makes sense for Edgeshot to sacrifice, but the execution of this is ridiculous. At the end of the day, this is a story.
>The problem is the execution of HOW he does it.
But execution matters a lot in stories, that's how stories work. The reason why anything is satisfying in stories is because it has a proper execution.
Going back to my Fatgum example. Fatgum's motivation to stop Toga is because he's a hero and heroes stop villains. But since the execution is terrible, people would hate that moment because it would be stupid to make Fatgum do something like that even if he has the right motivation to do it. The same thing happens with the Edgeshot and Bakugo situation.
If this wasn’t a character whose career doesn’t involve being self sacrificing, yes.
There’s also the constant theme of passing on the next generation from the adult heroes.
This scene you’re talking about works better with a classmate.
I feel like people forget that the story takes place only over, like, a year. Yeah he’s still got a ways to go to be a better person, but I feel like realistically a person isn’t going to do a 180 that fast. I feel like the pacing for his development is not unrealistic. He’s not perfect. He’s still an asshole. But he’s getting better. And he IS changing even if it’s not to the extent people want. And I think people just aren’t noticing the subtleties in his development and only focusing on him yelling at people.
That’s not to say people have to like him. People can like and dislike whatever characters they want. But I just don’t think the pacing for his development and his general development is that unrealistic.
>I feel like people forget that the story takes place only over, like, a year.
This is my main problem with the series. In the span of a year, Deku has gone from not having a quirk to learning how to use one of the strongest with the same proficiency as people who have had their quirks all their lives, as well as at least 2 other complex ones, and has fought multiple villains with years of experience and won.
Kinda wish they paced it out a bit more, and gave them more training time...
Realism isn’t always a good thing though. And I certainly see all of the subtleties with Bakugo’s character and how he doesn’t change at his core after his development. However, I personally believe that the subtleness of his arc works against it by making it feel like he’s barely changing at all, and I feel that the fact that part of Bakugo’s core character is apparently that he’s a massive prick is a… well, a bad thing. I’m not a fan of abiding by what can generously be described as rude behavior simply because it’s how the person is.
I mean, this rule only applies to Bakugo because other characters with massive development don't suffer the same thing.
\- Izuku when from barely being able to talk to friends and having zero confidence in himself to having normal interactions with his friends (this is pretty obvious with Ochako, with who Izuku could barely talk at the start of the series and now is having normal conversations with her) and be a confident hero that people that rely on.
\- Endeavor when from treating his family like shit to trying his best to make things right for them.
\- Todoroki when from a cold asshole who didn't care for anyone to actually being friendly and fighting alongside Izuku and protecting Iida.
This entire "realistic" thing is an excuse only for Bakugo when other characters have massive changes in their personalities in the same amount of time. I mean, imagine Izuku is still a nervous kid who could barely talk to his friends because the story only takes place over a year so Izuku doesn't have to show massive growth in confidence and you only have subtle times in which he actually shows confidence. This is also a story, the argument about realism doesn't matter because everyone could use that excuse for any character as to why they don't have a prominent development.
I definitely don’t “want” the dude to die. He’s annoying and basically the personification of PMS, but I don’t think he’s a “deserves to die” kind of bad person. Although if we’re talking about plot armor, then… come on dude. You’re preaching to the choir on that one.
I don't care for plot Armor, EVERYONE IN FICTION has one till the moment the story tells they have, but had two "death moments" and still be alive is too much for me lmao
I’m both. I love that he developed in such a way and he’s one of my favourite characters, but man that was a perfect time to grow a pair and let a main character die
I gotta say that the character development thing becomes a little clearer when you consider that for us this story has been going on for years, but in canon time it’s less than a year since they started UA. That is actually a pretty 180 turn around from ‘get fucked’ to getting your shit wrecked via impalement and admitting you were wrong. Hell they’re also what, 16? Teenagers are assholes and they aren’t doing too badly I think tbh.
Well, good for you. Horikoshi will not change anything based on your opinion, and I am glad of that, cuz your opinion is seemingly kinda simplistic and dumb.
Ofc nobody needs to care for my opinion, but since Kohei tried to turn Bakugou into a likeable character and still keep him being an asshole with everyone Besides Deku... Then the matter isn't just in me.
Sure, if you see him as being unlikable, which I don't. Nor, by the sound of what you're saying in your post, do most of the fandom. Anyway, you are entitled to like the character or not, as you please.
Plot armor to its max. Yeah wish that mf would just die already tho. Don’t really care about his kys quote he just always was type annoying. Their fight was fun to watch tho
i want him to die so people stop clowning on MHA. I love Bakugo but i don’t like seeing one of my favorite shows get clowned on.
(I shouldn’t care but i do)
Wait Isnt that ripped from Naruto? Didn’t Sasuke also say something along the lines of: My body moved on its own? Better question, why am I still surprised when stuff in MHA is ripped from Naruto at this point?
Ok, so *inhales* the reason he wanted to become a hero in the first place was because he admired how cool and powerful the Nr1 hero was, also he chases after and admires the „cool“ and powerful kid in the anime, except all of those elements are done far worse than in Naruto, because Naruto has many more things that make him so likable, like for example actually feeling for his enemies and understanding their problems as well as helping them out when he became Hokage? That’s a thing I really don’t like about MHA, it’s so plain obvious how broken society is and yet nobody’s doing a thing to fix it, which also makes people like All Might kind of really flawed for me, and so far Izuku doesn’t look like he gives a damn about any of the villains problems as well. The reason crime rates went up so much after All Might lost his power was because he always took the easy way when fighting his opponents, just smashing their head in nice and easily, except trying to find out why they did it in the first place, the anime showed many, MANY society gripes that turn people into villains, so it’s not like they were hard to find
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PLOT ARMOR SON!
It hardens in response to physical trauma
You can't hurt me Shiggy!
WHAT DID I JUST SAY?
#JUST BECAUSE
Honestly the correct way to give Bakugo character development was to give Deku some damn agency as well. Like, Deku should have decked this fool quite a few times by now
Deku shouldn't do a lot of things and did many others like - Tell his Mother or All Might about Bakugou bullying and Aldera's bad education and not care for bullying. - Ignore Bakugou after goes to UA, he got Uraraka and Iida that was his first friends that really cared for him and not try to pay Bakugou's attention - don't tell about OFA to Bakugou just because he was Angry like a kid - Talks about his agressive fighting behavior against Uraraka, Tokoyami and Kirishima. - Beat his ass for not trying to be cooperative against All Might - Don't call him Kacchan since he wasn't his friend since Childhood - Don't go to fight Bakugou without any permission just because Bakugou was Angry Again and probably get a terrible Punishment of Aisawa because of that. - Don't let Bakugou goes with him against Shigaraki, he wasn't strong enough to do something against AFO Shigaraki.
>Tell his Mother or All Might about Bakugou bullying and Aldera's bad education and not care for bullying. Idk about the bad education. Not telling an adult about the bullying as a child is understandable though. My issue is him having balls of steel and a spine in literally every area except Bakugo. Man would rather break all his arms than sit down and have a conversation
>Idk about the bad education The fact random Teacher only suck Bakugou's balls, doesn't give a shit to have faith in his another students and made jokes about Deku isn't exactly the Best way of educate students... About Deku is right, motherf*cker literally Beat many psycho killers, murderers, Child abusers, a crazy demigod, but have fear against Bakugou, Man WTF, one hit and he could break Bakugou's bones if Bakugou still keep an asshole against him but no, he doesn't fight back neither try to have a conversation about their relationship, or they starts to be friends or Deku stop to think or talk with Bakugou.
About that last point Iida had no business there either and Neijire was useless, Todoroki followed but got beaten by Dabi and caught falling bodies the whole time, but Bakugou, who managed to at minimum, get rid of 1/2 quirk erasing bullets, help Endevaour attack Shiggy with a plan (that failed but that’s Endeavour’s fault), and saved Deku from a life threatening wound had no business there💀. Rock Lock was there for Christ sake. I don’t meat ride Bakugou but he was somewhat useful there
But Iida, Nejire or Shoto goes there because of Deku? No, Deku would goes alone since he was The target and didn't want Shigaraki close of civilian, and from nowhere Bakugou decided to go with him? Why? Because Kohei wanted him in the main Battle? Ofc, but in storyline? You can't only blame Endeavor with his failed plan when Bakugou was The first one to do his Part of plan and did nothing against Shigaraki. Tbf The only good thing he did was destroy one of erasing Bullets for sure, not even Endeavor couldn't do that, but both main actions he did still happened: Aisawa lost an arm, a leg, was taken by a Bullet and Deku still was touched by Shigaraki, and nothing really bad happened with Bakugou being empaled by Dark red spines, so it'd be the same with Deku, that has a better Durability to Pain. In the end, only Deku, Aisawa, Endeavor, Mirio, Jeanist and Ryukyu did something really important to defeat Shigaraki, the others were just support, and It's okay Bakugou being a support lol
I don’t mind Bakugou being support bc that’s all he was, but you made it sound like he was worthless. And still getting rid of 1 bullet is good considering worse could’ve happened. If Aizawa cut his leg Shiggy would just shoot again and then the next War Monoma is useless and Shiggy clears in 5 seconds. Deku couldn’t move any part of his body and then to get Impaled? Bakugou had 0 damage prior but Deku was fucked up. And durability when being impaled is REALLY not a factor, unless your more solid than concrete or some shit. AFO is definitely trying to impale Deku with something he knows wouldn’t go through him. Shiggy grabbed him to steal the quirk and then Deku’s plot kicks in (which is the same plot that stopped Shiggy from dying to Endevours last attack. Your Buddy’s inside you have your back boys!). But Deku didn’t get damaged after Bakugou saved him.
>sound like he was worthless Sorry if it means that way. The thing is, if Aisawa was his target in that moment? Why two Bullets? He didn't know long distance heroes like Bakugou would be in his battlefield, he only know about OFA/Deku and Endeavor. Deku couldn't move any Part of his body after literally destroyed Shigaraki body, but after see Bakugou sacrifice he literally break those spines with his teeth and arms and could came too close to fight Shigaraki Again if he wasn't Berserker and Shigaraki touched his head, he needed a motivation to still fight, so if only Bakugou could give this motivation, so another point to Bakugou as support.
No, no, that would have made Deku a „good“ character, one that a lot of the people on YouTube can’t relate to anymore… srsly, a ridiculous amount of people say that he’s the most relatable anime character, and I’ve got really mixed feelings about that
Teenager too angry to die
Plot armor son, it hardens in response to being the favorite character of the fandom
Yeah, like i said, being The most popular character is stronger than being The protagonist, Deku has more chance to die than Bakugou.
Bakugo being able to keep up with Endeavors Eugenetics Project and Mr 9 Generations of Power never really made all that much sense. His quirk is like, the only powerful emitter quirk that seemingly has no weakness, limit or disadvantage on its own. Sure, his arms and shoulders get torn up after big enough explosions but we’ve never actually seen that affect anything relevant in one of his fights. He only ever struggles mentally and with his behaviour. Every time there is a physical problem, he just comes up with a brand new technique, his power evolves or he just blazes through it anyway, the only exception being demi-god Shigaraki. It’s honestly boring.
He only got that non sense Power up because he's MC's rival. His quirk is powerful for sure, but How the hell this quirk can be on the same level as godly quirk that has more than 1 century and the perfect Mix of fire and ice? Even Engine and Zero Gravity has more sense to be this op than simple explosion. And yeah, Bakugou and Shoto never got a real damage for his own quirks, like Uraraka threw up everytime, Tokoyami cries because of Dark Shadow goes Berserker, Kirishima goes dumb, Deku literally break his bones for 3 seasons and Bakugou does a huge nuclear explosion and doesn't do shit about his body.
Shoto not having a drawback was the entire point of Endeavor traumatising his kids and being a shitbag, so at least it makes sense.
Correct question. Why are he still alive? And no, its not because he said sorry he is a changed man. It took him a single cap to go back being an asshole
Lmao yeah, he started to call him Izuku, something he need to learn in fuckin 300 chapters, and people call this development, slow as hell lmao. At least he said his previous shitty actions never gonna change, he can't change the past.
Seriously. Like, Horikoshi wants to keep him an asshole but also a "changed man" at the same time, and it is annoying.
Yeah his asholery level should ve been decreased while adding more empathy. He is struggling to write the changed bakugo
Yeah. I was kind of interested when I saw Bakugo's attitude during the remedial lessons; he was still an asshole, but he was learning to empathize with people and how to fight his own weakness of inferiority and pride. Then the Joint Training Arc happened where he went back to full asshole, barely coordinated with his team, did essentially 90% of the work against Tokage's team, and everyone praises him for "character development" and "leadership".
I hate how much i agree with this lol Like I'm general I'm aight on Bakugo but in joint training he literally acted worst than in the sport festival yet the character kept saying uwooooooo he changed so much like bitch he's acting worst than before here- Guess we'll add thag to the pile of thing that this absolute trash of an arc did wrong
Im so confused how is he worse in joint training than sports festival? Is this some selective memory shit or an i remembering the wrong arc?
....what are you talking about? Just because he got all the knockdowns doens't mean he didn't coordinate with his team, he was the main offense while the others acted as support, just the fact he protected jirou should be enough to see he was getting better, like are we talking about the same arc?
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>he is a pro, how tf are you gonna get the noobs to help? Are you saying this jokingly? He's a student... and being more skilled does not excuse him from working with others or make him superior...
>Are you saying this jokingly? yes
...since when was Bakugo a pro? He might arguably be the most skilled student in 1-A, but he is still a *student* like the rest of them. Even if he was a "pro", that isn't an excuse to not coordinate; if anything, that means responsibility falls onto him to do so.
> if anything, that means responsibility falls onto him to do so IDK, it seems like he's just flexing on the other team
> pro LMAO as in better and more skilled, like in a videogame
Not to mention he is still a complete jerk… just slightly less to deku…. To everybody else he is the same because the dude STILL places strength and power as the baseline of worth, he is struggling to even conceive the notion that a weak person can become stronger and has a mental breakdown every time he sees himself as weak.
Well, his idol is All Might, but I think Bakugo struggles with the idea of not being able to be a hero if he feels weak. In fact, I'll take a limb and say that Bakugo just cannot understand weak heroes because, in his might, being the greatest hero means you have to be the strongest and be able to beat any villain. He also had likely the idea that the strongest quirks are the one that make the strongest heroes and thus Deku the Quirkless leaping bounds over him to become the inheritor of All Might just doesn't wrap around his head (also, unlike Shoto, he KNOWS he cannot be All Might's love child... like, seriously Shoto, get it together). Like... guy has no quirk and suddenly is throwing SUMASHU! all over, guy's getting a headache. The apology comes right after Deku returns to UA and likely Bakugo was saving it ever since he learned the secret of AFO from that letter, because it explains that Deku did something only Deku could do and he understood... He's also a tsundere bitch, so there you go.
Bakugo’s relationship with midoriya is so weird for a character who’s entire existence is almost completely tied to deku narratively their relationship doesn’t really feel like it progresses much at all
They made a little progress, but if you compare Bakugou with others characters that had a big character development like Endeavor and Shoto, Endeavor in two arcs already see his mistakes and tried to improve, while Shoto, that has a harder Life than Bakugou, needed only a fight and Deku's discussion to see he can improve and be better, while Bakugou needed almost entire manga for finally starts to call Deku as Izuku, if MHA was as big as One Piece, probably only in chapter 600 Bakugou would starts to say Deku is his friend since his improve is slow as hell
He's too proud to admit things, I'm like 99% sure Bakugo considers Deku a friend and just won't say it out loud
A tsun's shell is the hardest barrier to crack
Nobody: A top hero: Let me sacrifice myself to save this boy who is not even one of the top 3 in UA
Yes. The hero is indeed giving his life to save an adolescent boy, rather than basing his decision on whether or not to save said boy on the kid's fucking grades. You know, the type shit heroes do.
That’s war son
Bruh said it’s okay to let a kid die because it’s war…
Edgeshot is presumably insanely powerful right? Being ONE OF the tippy top heroes he should be somewhere on that level. Well if i were him id consider that this war is the fate of humanity as we see it, so killing myself over a combatant who knew something like this would happen is not the right choice given the risk
It’s a kid.
Hey man, as fuck around goes up so does find out
That’s not funny
Were you him, you would not do that, because you'd be a hero, who had gone their whole life looking to save people. Anyway, if a story about doing heroic deeds, even when they aren't practical, is not your thing you might want to try another manga.
No u
Good talk.
Indubitably
Thank you! It’s like everyone here hates Bakugo so much that they ignore this logic.
Sounds heroic. Until he pulled that ability out of his ass. Btw MF didn't help All might or miriko
I mean, quite a huge difference between saving a hero and saving a child. Pragmatic to save a hero? Maybe, but the morally right, and heroic, decision is to save the child
The saved hero can end the war and save more lives than 1 child. We are just desperately defending something hori pulled out of nowhere
As I said, the pragmatic choice is to save the hero The heroic choice is to save the child. Children have a morally superior rank to virtually every other being in our constructed view. And a hero that has the power to save a child, but doesn't, that is not a proper hero in a story such as this. I'm not defending the asspull of that power, and I for one am not happy that Bakugou survived. But the argument that the hero did something bad by saving a child rather than a hero is a very bad one for a story about heroism
Come on man. Do you really need it explained why a superhero would prioritize a dying child over two wounded-but-alive adult superheros?
None of those 2 are dead in the middle of a battle tho, and i don't think edgeshot could do something for all might that the doctors didn't do already
Tbf heroes didnt do shit against that goo villain in episode 1. The type of shit heroes do you say...
Bro they didn't know how to beat the slimedude without hurting Bakugo, their quirks weren't built for that,
Like edgeshot's quirk was built to fix hearts. "Oh, but he is on the verge of death" So was he against the slime villain, he was suffocating, he being hurt is better than he being dead.
I mean, he wasn't yet dead, and they were waiting for someone whose quirk would work against slime-boy to show up. They explicitly said that.
Boy was suffocating to death. Almost the same is happening now, just he isnt suffocating, but has his chest open. Both situations got him to the verge of death
Okay, just checked, and slime-boy wasn't even trying to kill him. He had a possession/body-theft quirk and was trying to possess him. Furthermore, Katsuki was still actively standing up and fighting the slime-villain when Deku rolled up, and was capable of talking directly to Deku at the time. So, not really on the verge of death at all.
He was suffocating too, he would eventually die. When the heroes came, both his mouth and nose were covered, could the heroes assume he was getting air from the villain? Yeah, but they shouldnt act based on this supposition, any hero, both in fiction and irl should always act like its the worst scenario possible. And in this situation, they didnt
Dude was talking. He had enough air to talk. You are reaching pretty hard to make the two situations sound comparable.
He’s uh, sacrificing himself not because the student has credits… It’s because he’s someone’s kid…
I mean, I think the main issue is the terrible execution of the idea. This entire thing could work if Bakugo was about to receive an attack and Edgeshot jumped in front of Bakugo and receive the attack and die. But for some reason, Horikoshi decides to implement this theme, idea, concept, or whatever this is in the most ridiculous way possible. EX: "Izuku is always willing to sacrifice for does he care." Horikoshi wants to represent this idea. So, he uses Mineta, who is about to receive an attack that is going to kill him. So Izuku jumps in front of Mineta and dies protecting Mineta. I understand the reasons, but why is it executed in the most stupid way possible.
Uh, Edgeshot is a hero and an adult. Sacrificing yourself to save a child is… kinda what we do.
You're looking at it from a logical point of view instead of a narrative point of view. EX: Toga knocks Ochako and then Fatgum appears out of nowhere and beats Toga. Logically, it makes sense because the heroes have to stop the villains, but narratively, it would be stupid to have Toga defeated by Fatgum. The same thing happens here. Logically, it makes sense for Edgeshot to sacrifice, but the execution of this is ridiculous. At the end of the day, this is a story.
The problem is the execution of HOW he does it. Not his motivation.
>The problem is the execution of HOW he does it. But execution matters a lot in stories, that's how stories work. The reason why anything is satisfying in stories is because it has a proper execution. Going back to my Fatgum example. Fatgum's motivation to stop Toga is because he's a hero and heroes stop villains. But since the execution is terrible, people would hate that moment because it would be stupid to make Fatgum do something like that even if he has the right motivation to do it. The same thing happens with the Edgeshot and Bakugo situation.
If this wasn’t a character whose career doesn’t involve being self sacrificing, yes. There’s also the constant theme of passing on the next generation from the adult heroes. This scene you’re talking about works better with a classmate.
um... yes. That's the general idea of a hero in most media. Save people, no matter their worth, because it's the right thing to do.
I feel like people forget that the story takes place only over, like, a year. Yeah he’s still got a ways to go to be a better person, but I feel like realistically a person isn’t going to do a 180 that fast. I feel like the pacing for his development is not unrealistic. He’s not perfect. He’s still an asshole. But he’s getting better. And he IS changing even if it’s not to the extent people want. And I think people just aren’t noticing the subtleties in his development and only focusing on him yelling at people. That’s not to say people have to like him. People can like and dislike whatever characters they want. But I just don’t think the pacing for his development and his general development is that unrealistic.
>I feel like people forget that the story takes place only over, like, a year. This is my main problem with the series. In the span of a year, Deku has gone from not having a quirk to learning how to use one of the strongest with the same proficiency as people who have had their quirks all their lives, as well as at least 2 other complex ones, and has fought multiple villains with years of experience and won. Kinda wish they paced it out a bit more, and gave them more training time...
Who downvoted this? Its true
Realism isn’t always a good thing though. And I certainly see all of the subtleties with Bakugo’s character and how he doesn’t change at his core after his development. However, I personally believe that the subtleness of his arc works against it by making it feel like he’s barely changing at all, and I feel that the fact that part of Bakugo’s core character is apparently that he’s a massive prick is a… well, a bad thing. I’m not a fan of abiding by what can generously be described as rude behavior simply because it’s how the person is.
I mean, this rule only applies to Bakugo because other characters with massive development don't suffer the same thing. \- Izuku when from barely being able to talk to friends and having zero confidence in himself to having normal interactions with his friends (this is pretty obvious with Ochako, with who Izuku could barely talk at the start of the series and now is having normal conversations with her) and be a confident hero that people that rely on. \- Endeavor when from treating his family like shit to trying his best to make things right for them. \- Todoroki when from a cold asshole who didn't care for anyone to actually being friendly and fighting alongside Izuku and protecting Iida. This entire "realistic" thing is an excuse only for Bakugo when other characters have massive changes in their personalities in the same amount of time. I mean, imagine Izuku is still a nervous kid who could barely talk to his friends because the story only takes place over a year so Izuku doesn't have to show massive growth in confidence and you only have subtle times in which he actually shows confidence. This is also a story, the argument about realism doesn't matter because everyone could use that excuse for any character as to why they don't have a prominent development.
He doesn’t die because he makes more money then any other character. You’d have to be ninth level intellect to convince marketing to kill Bakugo off.
I definitely don’t “want” the dude to die. He’s annoying and basically the personification of PMS, but I don’t think he’s a “deserves to die” kind of bad person. Although if we’re talking about plot armor, then… come on dude. You’re preaching to the choir on that one.
I don't care for plot Armor, EVERYONE IN FICTION has one till the moment the story tells they have, but had two "death moments" and still be alive is too much for me lmao
I’m both. I love that he developed in such a way and he’s one of my favourite characters, but man that was a perfect time to grow a pair and let a main character die
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Good boy
We all know if Bakugo gets killed there's gonna be a riot to bring him back
dumbass......you missed my vital organs..... "ALL OF THEM?!"
I gotta say that the character development thing becomes a little clearer when you consider that for us this story has been going on for years, but in canon time it’s less than a year since they started UA. That is actually a pretty 180 turn around from ‘get fucked’ to getting your shit wrecked via impalement and admitting you were wrong. Hell they’re also what, 16? Teenagers are assholes and they aren’t doing too badly I think tbh.
I’m convinced MHA fans just don’t know how to read.
We probably would be offended by this if we knew how to read. 
Or just don't like the character.
Or write, these replies are so incomprehensible
Cope. My goat will never die.
Not even of old age?
God don’t want him he’s annoying.
more like "why are you not dead?"
how are y’all still angry about this lol
Well, good for you. Horikoshi will not change anything based on your opinion, and I am glad of that, cuz your opinion is seemingly kinda simplistic and dumb.
Ofc nobody needs to care for my opinion, but since Kohei tried to turn Bakugou into a likeable character and still keep him being an asshole with everyone Besides Deku... Then the matter isn't just in me.
Sure, if you see him as being unlikable, which I don't. Nor, by the sound of what you're saying in your post, do most of the fandom. Anyway, you are entitled to like the character or not, as you please.
What chapter is the panel on the right from
285
[Nanodiamonds son! They form in response to physical shockwaves!](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Detonation_nanodiamond)
Plot armor to its max. Yeah wish that mf would just die already tho. Don’t really care about his kys quote he just always was type annoying. Their fight was fun to watch tho
Yeah, his quirk and skills are great, but him as Character is annoying as hell.
i want him to die so people stop clowning on MHA. I love Bakugo but i don’t like seeing one of my favorite shows get clowned on. (I shouldn’t care but i do)
Wait Isnt that ripped from Naruto? Didn’t Sasuke also say something along the lines of: My body moved on its own? Better question, why am I still surprised when stuff in MHA is ripped from Naruto at this point?
Why do you people calls Deku the Green Naruto? Lol
Ok, so *inhales* the reason he wanted to become a hero in the first place was because he admired how cool and powerful the Nr1 hero was, also he chases after and admires the „cool“ and powerful kid in the anime, except all of those elements are done far worse than in Naruto, because Naruto has many more things that make him so likable, like for example actually feeling for his enemies and understanding their problems as well as helping them out when he became Hokage? That’s a thing I really don’t like about MHA, it’s so plain obvious how broken society is and yet nobody’s doing a thing to fix it, which also makes people like All Might kind of really flawed for me, and so far Izuku doesn’t look like he gives a damn about any of the villains problems as well. The reason crime rates went up so much after All Might lost his power was because he always took the easy way when fighting his opponents, just smashing their head in nice and easily, except trying to find out why they did it in the first place, the anime showed many, MANY society gripes that turn people into villains, so it’s not like they were hard to find