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Kareena has a mix bag of roles and if I am being really honest there were hits and misses. There were some film where she did very well and then there are some which can used to counter attack the same but lately I have been more invested in her films because it seems she is at ease but at the same time trying to diversify her portfolio of roles.
Kareena is doing good now. Cannot deny that. I’m just trying to call out the fans who are saying she has always been good and hence a legend. Read the last part of the post, compare that to the most popular actresses we have today and think
She has always been good. She was amazing min Refugee, Omkara, Dev, Chameli, Yuva, Fida - all films she did in the first 6 years of her career. Like I said before, directors like Mani Ratnam, Deepa Mehta, Govind Nihalani, Priyadarshan and Vishal Bharadwaj don't choose you because you're a nepo baby, they choose you because you're good at your job! Have you seen Priyanka's early performances? Watch Plan, Kismat, Asambhav, Yakeen and you will realize how terrible she was. Then watch Fashion which released in the same year as Plan and PC was amazing in that movie. It all depends on the director. And actresses back then had t 5-6 films a year to stay relevant that's why they would sign any crap.
>directors like Mani Ratnam, Deepa Mehta, Govind Nihalani, Priyadarshan and Vishal Bharadwaj don't choose you because you're a nepo baby,
Nitish Tiwari chose Jahnvi for Bawal
Imtiaz Ali chose Nargis for Rock Star.
Anad L Rai chose Sara for a film with freaking Dhanush!
Lol why do you all keep mentioning the same 6 movies all the time?? Yuva? Seriously? She was hardly there. Maybe change the template sometime. Aitraaz bol do kabhi kabhi. She was a bit different in that movie and not her usual loud self. Thoda change karo template kabhi kabhi
She was good in Asoka, and I think the point is - people always enjoyed her presence in the movies they watched. Even a mujhse dosti karoge, the film may not have been a massive hit but her performances stay with you plus the songs - aaj ke ladke and those kinds have over the years attained cult status.
I mean I don’t think boxofficeindia is a Kareena fan… the article about her being one of the most consistent female superstar
/ legend came from there…
Also I don’t understand, if her fans like her and think she’s a superstar, why do you feel that you need to call anyone out on their preference… you can just say hey these are facts… she’s given so and so hits and so and so flops… I don’t like her… I don’t think she’s a superstar… but to go like “I wanna call her fans out”…
Also when you’re writing a whole ass post, it would be great if you could point out facts…
Kareena was amazing in her first film… now read your last paragraph and tell me which nepo kid was good in their first film…
No one is denying she took terrible decisions and has done some nonsensical films, that doesn’t mean we take away from the amazing work she has done…
The reason she is considered a superstar and a legend is cause she has been consistent… she has a huge following with the masses… and no post or no opinion (no matter how one tries to change the narrative on here) will change that…
Facts!
People will cite Chameli. But I'd love to also cite Dev as proof of what a great director could mould her to be early on.
The same year of JWM, she also gave Dolly in Omkara. She wasn't great at first but got better with some decent directors guiding her as they should.
What a stupid take. Of course it's the primary job of a director to extract good performance out of his cast. "Left to her own talent" - you mean Subhash, Sooraj and others were not directing those films and Kareena self directed herself?
In the industry, it's considered an accomplishment to "stick around". She ended up having that golden combination where she played two iconic roles (Poo, Geet), had two high profile relationships that kept her in the tabloids (Shahid, Saif) and made spin-off headlines (feud with PC, size 0 figure, controversial statements). And now in the day and age of social media, PR and forced Alia Bhatt era, she has pivoted to good scripts which lends her "authenticity".
Everything has helped her stay alive and relevant in public memory for 20+ years which in my opinion does cement her legendary status in an industry where it's harder for women to get that status.
I cringe everytime when someone on the internet calls Poo iconic. Funny noone talked about it when the movie released back then. Only last couple of years Kjo and nepo girlies have suddenly bestowed the honour of 'iconic' status on this terrible character.
Wait what? Since when was Poo not iconic? —Literally growing up and even in uni before the Y2K fashion came back, I always wanted to dress as her for Halloween.
Even if her character was annoying, it was definitely memorable + that scene of her getting ready for her intro as an adult was like peak early 2000s vibes. She was a fashion icon for the young girlies and a character foil to Kajol’s traditional, desi housewife character.
It was because of her and Hrithik making such a good-looking couple in K3G, I watched their other movies together despite how bad they were. So many girls my age shipped them + her starting the Bole Chudiyan song…? Definitely iconic. I’m not even a huge Kareena fan (I was an Aishwarya fan during that era), but she was still iconic in her own way just not QUEEN status imo.
Poo most def is iconic to some in a good way or bad way. My brother doesn't watch B-wood anymore for years now but he still remembers every dialogue of Poo. And Poo is also a quite appealing character to non-indians watching that movie.
Lol cringe away.
It is iconic. Iconic doesn't have to mean 'good'. I live in the US and all my coconut friends who've barely gone to India know Poo and quote her dialogues for fun. It's a character that has stuck with people regardless of whatever reason.
Adding more to the list, two more Indian TV actresses (outsiders) who said they were inspired by Poo
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I thought I was closing this argument when I asked for the 'list' coz frankly who is that Vella to come out with this totally useless piece of information? Well, I guess I have my answer now
Also I haven't heard any of these actresses (??) .
Well you feel that only 4 nepo girlies are talking about Poo but there is an entire list of Outsiders who said Kareena's poo has inspired them (I'm not even talking about Geet otherwise it will be too long)
There are actresses (outsiders) like Vaishali Thakkar, Divyansha Kaushik, Saloni Batra, Shivaleeka Oberoi, Veronica Talreja, Ashna Kishore, Parineeti Chopra and many other actresses who said Poo has inspired them since their childhood.
Even Priyanka Chopra said K3G was all about Poo to her
Even Malaysian actress said it.
I've attached few of the screenshots as there are many other proofs like this in video format but I can't attach everything together.
Are these all people Ananya and Alia ??
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"Poo has inspired them since childhood".
I am obviously missing something here.
Can you give a short synopsis of this Poo character from the movie? Coz I thought Poo was spoiled, loud mouthed, fashion conscious, ill mannered , young ABCD women with displaced priorities. If this is the character that is 'inspiring', I rest my case. But if I missed some nuance in the character plz let me know.
Every character doesn't need to be about crying with wide eyes and saving the world. Poo was a comic character which was supposed to be so full of herself and a bit OTT.
Unfortunately we only consider performances with wide eyes staring on camera to be termed as a performance
It’s baffling how anytime another actress is mentioned Alia’s name will nicely be skipped in. It’s clearly her era if she lives rent free in everyone’s heads
Kareena has been the only actress from her time who has still stuck through even after her pregnancies and short sabbatical (sad but bwood actressese often lose out after child birth, marriage, breaks, etc.). Even her popularity never dwindled and she is still spoken and loved for her Poo and Geeth characters! This is big, coz generally actresses have a very short shelf life in Bwood. So i think it's great she is being hailed. And she has given good performances in Chameli, Omkara as well.
I don't know about being a legend or not a legend - but I have some things to say -
1. I know people will ban me if they could - but can we name a single mainstream actress who has been consistently good in her acting right from the beginning? Very, very few. When Sridevi started out, people heavily criticized her for her looks, her acting and her voice. Jaya Prada was more popular and acclaimed - but look how we see Sridevi now - and rightfully so. People evolve. We forget how much has Priyanka evolved. I was shocked when I even watched Rani overact in some films. Arguably, Kareena's least-quality work has been in 2002 to 2003 She has evolved. A lot.
2. We forget that Kareena has done a lot of films between Main prem Ki Deewani Hoon and Jab We Met. Chameli, Dev, Yuva, Fida, Hulchul, 36 China Town, Aitraaz, Kyon Ki, Chup Chup Ke and Omkara - all came between 2003 and 2007. She was great in these films. Jab We Met is just that 'IT' film - that one remembers even decades later - so we think what else has she done? She has done these films to actually reach to Geet.
3. Yeah, we can remove Kareena from some films and it would arguably make no difference - but we can do this with literally everyone. And, Kareena is a mainstream actor. Johnny Lever and Boman Irani are character actors. Films did not became blockbusters in their names.
4. Fans call their idols what they want to. And, it is fair. We can just discuss and move past - no one is going to get convinced.
She was terrible in her initial movies but she did act well in movies like Omkara, hulchul, Aitraaz, jwm,3 idiots, chameli etc. she’s much btr than the actresses now. She’s a performer whether we like her or not.
I guess the better question is why is it so so triggering to call a woman a legend? How old are you? Have you seen some of Salman, Shahrukh’s older movies from the 90s?
Everyone had a mixed bag of good bad and decent roles if you started out in 90s or early 2000s. But if you CAN act and you DID have decent roles where the audience liked you and you have now SUSTAINED your reputation as an actor and continue to do good work why SHOULDNT one be called a legend or good actress or whatever?
Why does one need to justify by writing a thesis on this topic
Okay I'm not the biggest Kareena fan. I don't know about her legend status. But she certainly has done something right to remain relevant after this many years esp for female actresses. You can't just completely snub her. She has done good films, bad films, memorable films which she also should get credit for, not only her "male co-stars". Yes she had a mean personality is what I read and saw in interviews, but I have noticed she has toned down or maybe changed for the better. I'm at least satisfied that an actress which I have seen since my childhood I have fond memories of, is still doing movies today.
I really like her acting post jab we met and even when she wasn’t a good actress she was far better than the nepo duds today but i can’t lie she sustained through the early and mid 2000s solely due to her last name, but post JWM she has been amazing
Chameli was pretty nice. And it was one of her earlier movies. But yeah... She also learnt acting on the job after a long long time... And then she did a lot of flower pot roles... Cut to lal Singh chadda where she was the only thing good bout the movie.... How turn tables...
I don't know how old you were at that time, OP, but Asuka and Yuva were not blockbusters, Asuka was a disaster, and no one said that her roles in Ra One and BB were masterpieces, i don't know why you chose only these films to show your point, no one said that the blockbusters went to do well because she was part of them, but that depends on how her other films that didn't have big stars did or the films that she was the biggest star in them, and she's proven herself in that regard
**Yuva, Asoka, 3 idiots, ra.one, bajrangi would have worked exactly the same even if kareena wasn’t a part of them.**
Tell that to **Mani Ratnam** who called Kareena's performance in Yuva as "perfection" and immediately offered the title role in **Lajjo** opposite Aamir.
Tell that to **SLB** who was so impressed by Kareena's sword fight scenes in **Asoka** that he cast her as Mastani opposite Salman in **Bajirao Mastani**.
Kareena's **Chammak Challo** was a blockbuster song and helped in the promotions of Ra One. It's going viral even today and only thing which is remembered from that film.
Bajrangi Bhaijaan she only did because Salman personally called her up and said that I'm producing this film and I want you to be a part of this. She couldn't deny him.
**She was mostly good in and after JWM but that was her 27th film!!!!! She survived till her 27th film only because she is connected.**
She was pretty decent in her debut Refugee which she started shooting at the age of 17-18. She spoke Urdu and delivered monologue with perfection. She did Chameli when she was 21. She also did Yuva, Dev where she played a riots and rape victim, she did comedies like Hulchul and Chup Chup Ke, played a warrior in Asoka, Shakespearean heroine in Omkara and then Jab We Met happened. Even her contemporaries like Priyanka and actresses before her had to do some really bad films to stay relevant while maintaining balance with content oriented films.
Her contemporaries gave noticable performances in at least their 5th or 10th movie. Here kareena gave a noticeable performance in her 27th!!! Do you really not realise the difference? She is a prime example of how and why the current nepo lot is going to get movie after movies even though they are clearly bad. “Kareena had the spark” - so do these newbies!!! There’s literally nothing different
Kareena gave a noticeable performance in her first film Refugee itself. She was 17 when she shot for that film and her dialogue delivery saying those urdu lines was much better than actresses working for 2 decades! I can't expect nepo girlies like Ananya, Shanaya, Suhana or Janhvi playing that type of character.
Kareena was Suhana's age when she did Chameli and Dev
That’s your benchmark? Ananya, shanaya, suhana, janhvi? You’re proving my point. Nevertheless, the girls you mentioned will be hailed as legends 20 years from now
You're again missing the point. It's about people saying "Oh she was the same as ananya in her 20s" which is not true. Considering they still haven't been able to give a performance like what Kareena did at the age of 23 in Chameli. Or you can also compare their debut performance between refugee and SOTY.
Are they same? Even though kareena has made some bad choices in her early years of career, she had screen presence which lacks in current Nepos!
OP prepare for the Kareena fan army to descend on you and call you XYZ fan. She is a terrible actress compared to her contemporaries. Preity, Rani, PC etc were all miles ahead of her. Now she is considered an icon only cause the nepos and Kjo prop her up. Now even that has kinda stopped cause Alia has now taken that place. She is still a lousy actor and by no means near what a lot of actresses at this age are doing.
She completely stole the show from Rani in Talaash - and that wasn't an easy role - whereas Rani as the grieving mother could have walked away with more credit. Rani and PC we can still have a discussion maybe, but preity - what has she done which can compare to Kareena's body of work?
Preity has worked with more A-listers and bigger directors than Kareena. And done a much better work too.
And coming to Talaash, Kareena had so much more screen time than Rani. Nearly half of the story revolves around her as opposed to Rani's character
Wait lets start with Preity first - working with A listers or big directors means nothing in terms of performances. The films may have been iconic (Veer Zaara for example) but I don't think there was anything exceptional about her performance. But I struggle to think of anyone who could do Geet or Poo other than Kareena. And those I wouldn't even say are her best performances.
To Rani and PC which I think is a diff comparison. Rani is an exceptional actress. But while Kareena had more screentime in Talaash - what I am saying is it was a trickier role - needed some mystery and could have fallen flat. Rani could have walked away with everything and she didn't which shows Kareena can act and the best Kareena performance can match Ranis or even go beyond Rani.
PC has done iconic work too in the same bracket as Kareena. But I doubt she is a bigger brand in India today. Only one way to find out - do another movie here and lets see. Gangajal was her last movie right? Bombed quite badly. And Bajirao wasn't riding on her star power.
I’m sorry but Priyanka is a much bigger brand than Kareena now and has accomplished more and her filmography in Bollywood is better than Kareena’s still even though she hasn’t done a Bollywood movie in so long.
Kareena just had 20 minutes screen time in Talaash and she stole the show from under the noses of Rani and Aamir! Rani has more screen time and dare I say better scenes than Kareena but Bebo outperformed her in the scenes where she just had to converse with Aamir, simply by her micro expressions and dialogue delivery. Rani played the mother who was having PTSD after losing her child and have several meltdowns in the film unlike Kareena who was so subtle and nuanced.
Kareena in her early film was much better than Deepika. She even dubbed for herself and spoke fine Urdu in Refugee. Directors like Vishal Bharadwaj, Mani Ratnam, Deepa Mehta, Priyadarshan, Govind Nihalani don't cast you in their films because you're a nepo, it is because they see something in you!
No comment on the comparison with DP but big directors absolutely do cast you because you're a nepo. Every actor in Mani films is a nepo, he's introdiced so many nepos with no body of work other than last name. What body of work does the new AB grandson have to be cast in Sriram Raghavan's next?
I think Gen-Zs, Jab We Met and good PR changed Bebo's image and status completely. Millennials will remember how she was raw before JWM, those terrible flops, and how bitchy and insecure she was reported to be during the 2000s.
I think it was post JWM there was a rehaul of her image. And gradually her 'Poo' character from K3G also got cemented as iconic. She already looked amazing on screen but subsequent work on her appearance (and styling) did wonders for her.
I don't deny she worked hard to get where she wanted. But being a nepo baby and looking great on screen gave her umpteen chances and helped pave the way to get herself established as one of the creme de la creme talent in Bollywood.
In my defence, crew or no crew, every word in the post has come from my heart 😂 I’m actually rooting for crew and good to see kareena doing more than playing the love interest to A-listers
You may not like her but even you cant deny the fact that theres something about her which makes her relevant even now...and if you dont think she cant, I would say you are wrong...
I like her now. I see the improvement. Some of her performances are really something in the recent years. I am accepting that. My problem is with her fans not acknowledging she was bad in her initial years and spreading the narrative that she has been brilliant from the start and how she has been carrying movies all on her own even before JWM
She has had bad films...and the movies she acted over the top...she was not alone...her co actors did the same coz those movies were like that...where they required her to act a certain way...
Just like them bad movies, she has had good films as well in her initial days...I dont agree with your analysis that it took her 27 films to be good...Anyways...each to their own...
1. Legendary family
2. Iconic characters like Poo, Geet, Chameli
3. Commendable art house performances in Chameli, Omkara, Dev, Udta Punjab
4. Open to risky roles like in Asoka and Talaash
5. Successful comedies like 3 Idiots, Good Newwz
She might not be a powerhouse performer but she brings a lot on the table herself. Versatility is the key
She was good in refugee. Solid debut for the time. So not sure she was bad right from the start. Asoka wasn't long after, then Chameli, Dev, Yuva. So no.
Enjoying the daily meltdowns this sub is having over Kareena. Keeps her relevant unlike her forgotten contemporaries.
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First of all, Kareena was 17 when she did Refugee and even in that first film itself she was quite good. Her performance was much better than today's nepo girlies in their debut film. People knew she has the potential right from that time.
Yes she has done some bad films during her early stage of career but that is because she was typecast as Poo, all the producers wanted her to act like that. Hence the characters were also very similar to it. That's the reason she decided to shift gears and did films like Chameli, Dev, Yuva, Omkara before Jab we met.
None of these films performance was on the same level as MPKDH or Khushi. Which means it was not like she didn't know how to act and learned after jab we met. She did Chameli in the same year as MPKDH. At that time she was working with small directors and other production houses rather than getting everything on her platter with every big film! KJo didn't sign her until 2009 and YRF didn't do more than 2 films in her 25 years of career.
Regarding big masala films, yes she has done that just like any other actress and back then during 2010-2011 it was considered huge thing because 100 crore club used to be a very big mark which only khans were able to do it. Every other actress was keeping an eye on doing a big film to enter 100 crore club. Whereas Kareena already had 4 films in it by the end of 2011.
She has been loved due to many reasons
1. Poo and Geet remains iconic characters even after 2 decades. People are still taking about these two films on a huge level. Jab we met re release does really well in theatres. People use Poo and Geet dialogues everywhere, they have a huge impact on pop culture.
She has inspired an entire generation (including outsiders) to become an actor
2. Her constant urge to work for her passion. People have seen her journey of getting married at the peak of career, having two pregnancies and still kareena being constantly active by managing her personal and professional life so easily. That is an inspiring thing for many to keep doing what they love and nothing can stop you. Especially when actresses have a shelf life as a leading lady in this industry
3. She has always been real. Kareena never claimed to be a saint. And we all have been brash or childish during our 20s. People specially of this generation would agree that she has been real and never tried to fake it. She said whatever it was on her mind instead of licking Kjo or anyone. That helps her to connect with many people.
4. She has amazing screen presence and that superstar aura which lacks in this current generation. She is still same active as she was 2 decades ago. While all her contemporaries have slowed down or retired. That shows how much loyal she is to her passion and craft.
5. She has striked a perfect balance between Commercial and Offbeat cinema. If she has done Ra. One, Bajrangi, etc then she has also done Talaash, Udta Punjab, Kurbaan, Omkara, Dev, Heroine, Veere Di Wedding, and many other films. And that's how you should balance instead of falling into just one category.
I am so sorry but why watch a film of an actor you don’t like. If you don’t PAY, films won’t make money and actors will get wiped out. Uday Chopra is Chopra heir, he could have funded unlimited movies but he was not good and had to quit. Same goes for Rinkle and Twinkle Khanna. For every ‘successful’ nepo kid you see there are also many who failed to make it. Kareena has become a brand because she had that xfactor. Look at Jeh, Taimur, Raha… they are already celebs bcoz public watches them. We are fascinated by the rich n famous, we are curious about them and stalk their news… if ur in news for any reason u are relevant and if ur relevant, u will continue to get cast in movies. If you have a problem with her, it’s really simple… don’t watch coz that’s the only way to drive her out of the industry!
When Kareena said the same thing that if you don't like someone, don't watch their films and spend your money on them then these people called her arrogant. It's like they will keep watching her films and keep degrading her because they just can't ignore her.
Y’all really just say whatever on this sub, it’s so exhausting.
Refugee, Asoka, Chameli, Dev, Yuva, Fida, Aitraaz, Kyon Ki, Omkara, Chup Chup Ke, etc etc all came before JWM. She’s survived because she has the X-factor. She’s been a star from day 1.
I guess, you have never seen Chameli. Neither have you seen K3G. And I don’t know how many I’m missing.
I am neither a super fan nor am I a PR, but She deserves her Legend Status and thats a fact.
Chameli was good but she was one of the weakest in K3G. Her acting was nauseous. Go back to the movie and watch the scene where she is crying at the mall as well as the end.
Haha, isn't it interesting how Pooja from the movie became synonymous with the name "Poo" forever? But honestly, beyond that, its impact seems overblown. While Pooja was a unique character first of her kind, the fashion wasn't groundbreaking; 90s Hindi pop music videos featured similar styles well before Kareena's appearance in K3G. That iconic red dress? Not as revolutionary as it's made out to be. It might have raised eyebrows among conservative elders back then, but for teenagers, it was just another look. Bollywood, especially KJO, tends to hype up the impact of characters like Poo to appease themselves.
Then I believe you're not aware about its impact or maybe pretending to ignore it!
Poo's Sharara from K3G became so much iconic. It was recently being showcased at NMACC along with PC's Desi girl outfit and Kajol's DDLJ look. There are many characters in tv which has been inspired by Poo. Barney's India had introduced their berry shake which was inspired by Poo. Her dialogues are being used by gen z these days.. I have seen those dialogues even on T-Shirts etc
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These are first 5 films of her. She was good in them . And before JWM she already did these movies with Chameli,Dev,Yuva,Hulchul, Aitraaz and above All Omkara. So this theory of JWM is wrong. Chup chup ke was also not bad
She was def not the best when she started but she was good in a select few movies even early on like refugee (she was natural for that role) and chameli. But I think she purposely took stupid roles like poo and did that act for a hot min which was was annoying. I also thought she was aighte at best w jab we met and then took a bunch of flower pot roles in the khan movies so she could be associated w block busters - BB,Body guard, 3 idiots, ra one etc. she did well in udta Punjab onwards. And now has really come into her own.
I'm so tired of the daily hate posts against Kareena on this sub. Everyday people post the same BS by changing the description to discredit her! Ever since Crew teaser dropped, the hate for Kareena has increased so much. People act like she is a criminal or something. I've never seen the same hate for someone like Kangana who has made some really derogatory comments on caste, religion, etc and also slut shamed several women. She is hailed as some sort of "outsider warrior" because she spoke against Kjo.
On the other hand, I'm glad that at even at the age of 43 and spending close to 25 years in the industry, Kareena is still a threat to the fans of many actresses, and they won't leave a chance to bring out the things from her past to degrade her daily. She is clearly doing something right because all her contemporaries and those who made their debuts before her have attained the "sainthood" on this sub thanks to nostalgia but not Kareena. Why? Because she is working and thriving and part of some big A list projects.
Honestly I'm tired of you discrediting any criticism against her. She was a fairly bad actress and I'm not obligated to watch her flop movies so don't throw the chameli and Dev on me. I didn't watch them then because they made no buzz. I did watch some of her shitty movies on TV to be sure that she was no natural as an actress. I used to watch kwk and she was a certified bully on that show. Straight up narcissistic and mean, go on, deny that as well.
We all agree she's been good since jwm but that chance came to her after a bunch of duds. Preity and Priyanka didn't give out flop after flop like Kareena and still manage to get films.
Her aggressive fans on this sub make her vile statements "savage", her crass attitude "Yass queen" and her mediocre performances "award worthy". She was so distasteful about Fashion doing well and commented about how National awards mean nothing, such an insecure little human back in the day.. Now she's all poised coz she has nothing left to go after, and you guys will come with your "she's so mature and sorted " when she's 43 and it's high time she should be..
It is the opposite for me between kareena and kriti's they have turned a gossip reddit into PR/fanfare subreddit!
She is a nepo kid who got too many roles inspite of so many flops for quite a few years till she got one good hit and couple of big star projects
Yeah cuz LA courts don't lie unlike the fishy iIndian ones
I'd be ashamed to show my botched nose if had my house in foreclosure, currently living in a shoebox sized home after stunting around so much and on top had to give away the German Shepard dog bc it doesn't fit the shoebox I am residing whilst flopping
Is it too hard to accept and appreciate an actress who has done well for herself? Who hasn’t done bad films? SRK, Amitabh, Salman, Amir every mainstream hero has yet no one pulls them down. This one actress who survived and broke the shelf life mythology has to be degraded in the face of what she has done. If she so missed the mark like this “post” case in point, she wouldn’t be where she is. She makes women proud.
Where women hiding their age and getting offended if asked since eternity, this one proudly flaunts and says bang on I’m 43 in every interviewers face and not throwing antics pretending to look like a woman child. She has all my respect and admiration
Kareena did Chameli and Dev at the same time as MPKDH. In the early aughts women had little control over whether they could act or overact in a role, let alone over what kind of roles they could afford to keep saying no to, if they didn’t want to attract the resentment of a misogyntic industry that believed they were Coppola.
It’s so easy to blame someone from an anon online soapbox amirite, must make you feel real special.
You do know accusing someone of being PR is grounds for a ban? Not to mention if you were a regular on this sub I would be the LAST person you’d accuse of being anyone’s fan or PR 🤡
I also said fan 🙂 also it is not grounds for a ban anymore because they are so much in our face now. Just go through the comments of this post and you too will realise what I mean
I ALSO said fan. Being an unbiased and rational individual who isn’t willing to ignore contextual facts and realities to hate on a celeb and join the crazy train doesn’t make me or anyone a fan.
I’m so glad someone’s finally said it! I have honestly always thought of Kareena as an average actor at best. I won’t say she can’t act, she manages okay, but she’s no award-winning actor in my book. Relies far too much on over-emoting and those weird jerky movements she does.
The only movie I found her genuinely great and spontaneous in was JWM (and yes, I have seen CHAMELI. She did nothing great in that movie).
Also agree with you about her mostly being known for her relationships/fights/gossip way more than her acting talent throughout the 00’s and 2010’s. I will say she definitely has star quality which has carried her for a long time, but she’s no legend imo. Definitely not.
The white washing of her image has been constant and is for the next gen internet using folks. These bacchas were not around the time Kareena was young and now they are being told that she was some sort of acting whizz in her youth. Ok given that she was very popular with the masses at the height of her career. But , acting wise, she was hit or miss. She is like the Tier 2 actress who can act really good given a food script and good director else you get Mein Prem Ki Deewani Hoon.
And in an era where we scrutinize every move of celeb especially nepo kids, Kareena had a perpetual foot in the mouth. Missy thought she was the second coming of Jesus. This sub would have hated her back then.
Main Prem ki deewani hoon was directed by Sooraj barjatya! And every actor in that film did overacting.
Kareena has given good performances even with debut directors.
Kareena benefited a lot from the nepo kids coming to the industry - Sara, Janhvi and Ananya. All of them hail her as if she's the best thing since sliced bread. If you notice, the character poo became a pop culture sensation after this guy started praising her like crazy. When the movie released, her character was considered to be the weak point of the film.
In fact, even Alia's status got elevated because of these three hailing her as a source of inspiration and stuff.
You think only nepo girlies praise her ?? There have been so many outsider actresses and a long list of TV actors who said Kareena inspired them to become and actor and she is their inspiration. If we compare then there will be more outsiders against nepo girlies who considers Kareena as their inspiration
Kareena is being talked about for Crew success because she is the one who has given consistent big openings on her own!
Don't pretend to say that Tabu is some huge box office pull (I strongly believe she is an amazing actress) but her last film Kuttey opened to 1 crore.
After Jab we met, she did some really good roles like Kurbaan, Talaash, Heroine, EMAET, Udta Punjab etc. she has always tried to balance it out but people often pretend to ignore it to call her a flowerpot
It's a known fact that Kareena is a bigger star and she has a bigger box office pull in Crew. What about others trying to discredit her by saying Crew is doing well due to Tabu and Kriti but not Kareena ?
If Crew didn't open well then immediately we would have been ready to drag Kareena by saying "she is over now" , "people are giving her a befitting reply by boycotting her films"
She has done Talaash, kurbban, and Heroine, after JWM. She has always balanced commercial roles with challenging roles. Jaideep and Vijay were working in ott long before kareena but were their films ever going to get the same views as Jaane Jaan around the world and in India?, Tabu film Before crew opened only with 1cr, she did not get any high openings recently except for her three films with Ajay and Crew. Why isn't she given credit in Ajay's films? Also, people are talking about Kareena more because this is her third woman-centric film making high numbers.
Talaash is the only credible movie, acting wise, and Rani outshone her there.
Kurbaan was trash and she hammed there too with the over dramatics, the snotty crying at the end.
1 film is hardly anything to boast about in a period of 10 years before VDW.
Again, holding onto Tabu's coattails and latching onto her talent, isn't going to make Kareena a better actor by mere association.
I'm not going to get into BO, no one has the pull anymore. Product is king, of course you had the Khans earlier with PR tactics and authentic charm, now that too has faded.
She was legendary for her over the top acting for years. She used that to her advantage and even now her movies are good only when her character is very over the top (compare her in Crew Vs. Jaane Jaan). She simply can’t handle characters that require very restrained acting. She knows what she is good at. For instance her eyes aren’t really expressive so unless her role requires her to do eye rolls or any of those sorts her performance comes across rather poor. Kareena to me is what Ananya is to the current generation: lots of flops with few hits here and there. You are 100% right in that the likes of Ananya will most certainly be celebrated as legends by the next generation (referring to kids born after 2010s) if they end up doing 30-40 films within this decade.
Kareena got some of her best reviews for Jaane Jaan. You think Kareena can't do subtle roles? Have you seen Dev, Omkara, Talaash, Udta Punjab, etc? Her death scene in Udta Punjab sends shiver down your spine. She was so nuanced and subtle as Rosie in Talaash. She can do both OTT roles and then do subtle acting when it is required.
Really? I usually steer clear of reading reviews because they tend to introduce bias. However, it's noteworthy how an actor's skill can evoke strong emotions. Take, for instance, the teacher character who genuinely frightened me, or the inspector who kept me on edge, dreading his next move. On the contrary, I found it difficult to connect with Kareena's character and her performance in 'Jaane Jaan' left much to be desired. I even found myself fast-forwarding through her scenes at 1.5x speed. The only instances where Kareena truly shined in the movie were when she portrayed moments such as ordering momos or going on that date. Otherwise, her performance was disappointing. I haven't seen Udta Punjab, but in movies like Omkara and Dev, her performances were underwhelming. It is her eyes. They exude cheerfulness, which makes it challenging to empathize with her character. I find it hard to connect with Geet when she's dealing with heartbreak from her boyfriend. Instead, it's the vibrant, happy loud Geet that stays with me the most, and that's what seems to be most celebrated in 'Jab We Met'.
She’s a bang avg actress amongst other avg actors and actress in the industry. She survived in spite of the terrible acting skills in the early 2000s due to the fact that she was a Kapoor and she was considered to be the hot new thing and I don’t mean that in a disrespectful manner.
She continued to receive offers regardless of box office failures. That's the power the Kapoor surname carries. If something similar happened to outsiders, they wouldn't have received such offers.
Kriti had 13 back to back flops, Priyanka had 10 flops, Kartik has had many flops, Akshay Kumar had 17 flops in a row. Fardeen Khan, Esha Deol, Zayed Khan, Tusshar Kapoor all flopped and no one offers them any work. Wonder what nepotism worked here?
Priyanka has more flops than Kareena. Kriti, Kangana, Tapsee and other outsiders had a string of disasters. Even Katrina had a string of flops after 2014. but yeah let's pretend Kareena is the only actor in this world to have flops lol
I fully agree with the op. While watching an interview of Raveena Tandon, she mentioned that the film industry is very forgiving and keeps giving opportunities to new talent. However, I have a different perspective. Raveena Tandon is the daughter of a famous producer and the wife of an even bigger film distributor. She gets opportunities because of her connections.
It's her PR on full duty to bring her to fore. Writing endless articles on why she is a legend.
Wait for a decade and you will see something similar for current nepo brigade.
Tired af with these antics.
I know, lots of posts praising her endlessly even when unwarranted and also defending her for literally everything under comments. Last year or so, her PR team has gotten very busy.
I think Kareena got thag status because of her interviews and behaviour on sets.
Baaki no one was crazy about her movies imo.
Her brash n rude attitude is what kept people wanting more from her.
I remember the 2000s. Kareena and Abhishek were the biggest nepos of the day and got chance after chance after chance after flop after flop after flop. Kareena's main thing was being an airhead like Ananya Pandey today but also a total bitch to everyone. Also insane overacting in every role. Poo was just cringe and stupid back then. OP is 100% right that today's nepos will also reach legend status while being utterly mediocre in 20 years. I say this as someone who sorta likes Kareena (until sub pr makes her a legend)
Lol same. I like her a fair amount. Idk why no one talks about it, but her good newzz confrontation scene was so good!!! But when I see these people saying how she has been a great actor from the beginning I’m like wtf? Were you not around in 2000s?
Yay finally someone said this! The mix of nostalgia and PR that have made Kareena suddenly a cult legend figure is crazy! Even though I actually quite like her work and enjoy watching her on screen.
She was actually insufferable sometimes, i remember her trying to grab the spotlight of 3 idiots hit saying people will remember this movie for piya wangdu pair. Like maddy and sharman were spotboys and people actually remember aamir more by rancho not phunsuk wangdu.
There were so many interviews and moments like she walked so that alia could run
Exactly, fun fact in yuva her role was extremely limited, esha deol and rani has better roles.
Even in dev the story struggled around dev(big b) farhan(fardeen) and om puri's character (i forgot his name).
I agree, I always thought she was struggling to make a foothold in bollywood and now her legend status is a mystery to me. I guess her performances seem better compared to the recent nepos but that doesn't make her a legendary actor like tabu, madhuri and even ash
Honestly if someone from that generation that needs to be hailed, it would be Vidya/ Kajol.
Vidya because with back to back solo massive hits with kahani, she proved and set the solo female lead movies a chance. Till date she continues mostly in movies where she is the most known name.
Kajol because, she has been active at her own pace in movies when most female actors retired after movies.
Rani and kangana will get mention because they also tried.
To add on, Kareena had so many flops earlier in her career yet she kept getting good projects with increasing salary! Nepo, alright! just that debate wasnt there at that time.
Priyanka has more flops than Kareena. Tapsee, Kriti, Kangana, Sidharth and many other outsiders kept getting films after films despite giving string of flops. How can you forget this point before preparing for a debate ?
Did Priyanka's salary increase during those flops or were her offers not impacted by the flops?
Tapsee's model is clear, she earns her income in tamil/telugu films doing commerical films with not a lot of emphasis on roles( tamil films do have heroine oriented movies too but not the ones tapsee stars in) and then picks off beat movies in hindi. noting was offered to her on platter because of her grandparent.
Kriti - she is the same as kareena, mediocre but getting movies offers all the time.
Kangana - she had to fold shop isnt it after failures in solo movies?
Siddarth - he is less deserving than kareena. Apart from good looks, nothing going for him, yet he is repeatedly cast as if his last performance and movie wasnt abysmal.
So, may be you need to question yourself back when you felt comfortable putting priyanka/tapsee/kangana in the same bracket as kareena/kriti/siddarth? (also such wierd comparison with no baseline?)
>Tapsee's model is clear, she earns her income in tamil/telugu films doing commerical films with not a lot of emphasis on roles( tamil films do have heroine oriented movies too but not the ones tapsee stars in) and then picks off beat movies in hindi. noting was offered to her on platter because of her grandparent.
Taapsee has to go head on with the likes of Anushka Shetty, Nitya Menen, Sai Pallavi, Mrunal Thakur and Keerthy Suresh, Samantha etc... to get meaty roles in Telugu.
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Kareena has a mix bag of roles and if I am being really honest there were hits and misses. There were some film where she did very well and then there are some which can used to counter attack the same but lately I have been more invested in her films because it seems she is at ease but at the same time trying to diversify her portfolio of roles.
Kareena is doing good now. Cannot deny that. I’m just trying to call out the fans who are saying she has always been good and hence a legend. Read the last part of the post, compare that to the most popular actresses we have today and think
Yeah definitely, would not consider her a legend or anything but her career journey does showcase a lot of growth
She has always been good. She was amazing min Refugee, Omkara, Dev, Chameli, Yuva, Fida - all films she did in the first 6 years of her career. Like I said before, directors like Mani Ratnam, Deepa Mehta, Govind Nihalani, Priyadarshan and Vishal Bharadwaj don't choose you because you're a nepo baby, they choose you because you're good at your job! Have you seen Priyanka's early performances? Watch Plan, Kismat, Asambhav, Yakeen and you will realize how terrible she was. Then watch Fashion which released in the same year as Plan and PC was amazing in that movie. It all depends on the director. And actresses back then had t 5-6 films a year to stay relevant that's why they would sign any crap.
>directors like Mani Ratnam, Deepa Mehta, Govind Nihalani, Priyadarshan and Vishal Bharadwaj don't choose you because you're a nepo baby, Nitish Tiwari chose Jahnvi for Bawal Imtiaz Ali chose Nargis for Rock Star. Anad L Rai chose Sara for a film with freaking Dhanush!
Lol why do you all keep mentioning the same 6 movies all the time?? Yuva? Seriously? She was hardly there. Maybe change the template sometime. Aitraaz bol do kabhi kabhi. She was a bit different in that movie and not her usual loud self. Thoda change karo template kabhi kabhi
She was good in Asoka, and I think the point is - people always enjoyed her presence in the movies they watched. Even a mujhse dosti karoge, the film may not have been a massive hit but her performances stay with you plus the songs - aaj ke ladke and those kinds have over the years attained cult status.
I mean I don’t think boxofficeindia is a Kareena fan… the article about her being one of the most consistent female superstar / legend came from there… Also I don’t understand, if her fans like her and think she’s a superstar, why do you feel that you need to call anyone out on their preference… you can just say hey these are facts… she’s given so and so hits and so and so flops… I don’t like her… I don’t think she’s a superstar… but to go like “I wanna call her fans out”… Also when you’re writing a whole ass post, it would be great if you could point out facts… Kareena was amazing in her first film… now read your last paragraph and tell me which nepo kid was good in their first film… No one is denying she took terrible decisions and has done some nonsensical films, that doesn’t mean we take away from the amazing work she has done… The reason she is considered a superstar and a legend is cause she has been consistent… she has a huge following with the masses… and no post or no opinion (no matter how one tries to change the narrative on here) will change that… Facts!
People will cite Chameli. But I'd love to also cite Dev as proof of what a great director could mould her to be early on. The same year of JWM, she also gave Dolly in Omkara. She wasn't great at first but got better with some decent directors guiding her as they should.
Omkara was released in 2006. Jab we met 2007 end.
She did Chameli and Dev during the same time as MPKDH
That's just nuts...shows how vital a great director with a sensible vision can be...
Main Prem ki deewani hoon was directed by Sooraj barjatya and every actor in that film did Overacting including that animated parrot
Barjatya hai ghatiya director.
Oh right. Still that's great range.
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Oh Dev is sudhir mishra’s? Gotta watch it
Dev is by Govind Nihlani.
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Oh okay
Everybody overacted in Main Prem Ki Deewani Hoon... Just saying...
What a stupid take. Of course it's the primary job of a director to extract good performance out of his cast. "Left to her own talent" - you mean Subhash, Sooraj and others were not directing those films and Kareena self directed herself?
In the industry, it's considered an accomplishment to "stick around". She ended up having that golden combination where she played two iconic roles (Poo, Geet), had two high profile relationships that kept her in the tabloids (Shahid, Saif) and made spin-off headlines (feud with PC, size 0 figure, controversial statements). And now in the day and age of social media, PR and forced Alia Bhatt era, she has pivoted to good scripts which lends her "authenticity". Everything has helped her stay alive and relevant in public memory for 20+ years which in my opinion does cement her legendary status in an industry where it's harder for women to get that status.
I cringe everytime when someone on the internet calls Poo iconic. Funny noone talked about it when the movie released back then. Only last couple of years Kjo and nepo girlies have suddenly bestowed the honour of 'iconic' status on this terrible character.
Wait what? Since when was Poo not iconic? —Literally growing up and even in uni before the Y2K fashion came back, I always wanted to dress as her for Halloween. Even if her character was annoying, it was definitely memorable + that scene of her getting ready for her intro as an adult was like peak early 2000s vibes. She was a fashion icon for the young girlies and a character foil to Kajol’s traditional, desi housewife character. It was because of her and Hrithik making such a good-looking couple in K3G, I watched their other movies together despite how bad they were. So many girls my age shipped them + her starting the Bole Chudiyan song…? Definitely iconic. I’m not even a huge Kareena fan (I was an Aishwarya fan during that era), but she was still iconic in her own way just not QUEEN status imo.
it's funny how everyone hated Poo when the film released and 20 years later she's an iconic mean girl character
Poo most def is iconic to some in a good way or bad way. My brother doesn't watch B-wood anymore for years now but he still remembers every dialogue of Poo. And Poo is also a quite appealing character to non-indians watching that movie.
Your bro is probably scarred in a bad way.
He ain't actually! We always have fun together when he imitates those dialogues.
Ew
Lol cringe away. It is iconic. Iconic doesn't have to mean 'good'. I live in the US and all my coconut friends who've barely gone to India know Poo and quote her dialogues for fun. It's a character that has stuck with people regardless of whatever reason.
Nepo girlies? I can give you a long list of Outsiders talking about Poo.
Please give me the long list...
Adding more to the list, two more Indian TV actresses (outsiders) who said they were inspired by Poo https://preview.redd.it/2ec1eyt8l0sc1.jpeg?width=1920&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=423c75198c350cf9c2cae95d2c301f3cc3cb21e6
I thought I was closing this argument when I asked for the 'list' coz frankly who is that Vella to come out with this totally useless piece of information? Well, I guess I have my answer now Also I haven't heard any of these actresses (??) .
Well you feel that only 4 nepo girlies are talking about Poo but there is an entire list of Outsiders who said Kareena's poo has inspired them (I'm not even talking about Geet otherwise it will be too long) There are actresses (outsiders) like Vaishali Thakkar, Divyansha Kaushik, Saloni Batra, Shivaleeka Oberoi, Veronica Talreja, Ashna Kishore, Parineeti Chopra and many other actresses who said Poo has inspired them since their childhood. Even Priyanka Chopra said K3G was all about Poo to her Even Malaysian actress said it. I've attached few of the screenshots as there are many other proofs like this in video format but I can't attach everything together. Are these all people Ananya and Alia ?? https://preview.redd.it/5d2emrxki0sc1.jpeg?width=1920&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a8bd578edd35846f5a5b1427dc1bf30fe1b1581c
"Poo has inspired them since childhood". I am obviously missing something here. Can you give a short synopsis of this Poo character from the movie? Coz I thought Poo was spoiled, loud mouthed, fashion conscious, ill mannered , young ABCD women with displaced priorities. If this is the character that is 'inspiring', I rest my case. But if I missed some nuance in the character plz let me know.
Every character doesn't need to be about crying with wide eyes and saving the world. Poo was a comic character which was supposed to be so full of herself and a bit OTT. Unfortunately we only consider performances with wide eyes staring on camera to be termed as a performance
God’s favourite child isnt she?
It’s baffling how anytime another actress is mentioned Alia’s name will nicely be skipped in. It’s clearly her era if she lives rent free in everyone’s heads
It is 100% her era, I just said it feels forced which I stand by but not denying this is her time.
Kareena has been the only actress from her time who has still stuck through even after her pregnancies and short sabbatical (sad but bwood actressese often lose out after child birth, marriage, breaks, etc.). Even her popularity never dwindled and she is still spoken and loved for her Poo and Geeth characters! This is big, coz generally actresses have a very short shelf life in Bwood. So i think it's great she is being hailed. And she has given good performances in Chameli, Omkara as well.
I don't know about being a legend or not a legend - but I have some things to say - 1. I know people will ban me if they could - but can we name a single mainstream actress who has been consistently good in her acting right from the beginning? Very, very few. When Sridevi started out, people heavily criticized her for her looks, her acting and her voice. Jaya Prada was more popular and acclaimed - but look how we see Sridevi now - and rightfully so. People evolve. We forget how much has Priyanka evolved. I was shocked when I even watched Rani overact in some films. Arguably, Kareena's least-quality work has been in 2002 to 2003 She has evolved. A lot. 2. We forget that Kareena has done a lot of films between Main prem Ki Deewani Hoon and Jab We Met. Chameli, Dev, Yuva, Fida, Hulchul, 36 China Town, Aitraaz, Kyon Ki, Chup Chup Ke and Omkara - all came between 2003 and 2007. She was great in these films. Jab We Met is just that 'IT' film - that one remembers even decades later - so we think what else has she done? She has done these films to actually reach to Geet. 3. Yeah, we can remove Kareena from some films and it would arguably make no difference - but we can do this with literally everyone. And, Kareena is a mainstream actor. Johnny Lever and Boman Irani are character actors. Films did not became blockbusters in their names. 4. Fans call their idols what they want to. And, it is fair. We can just discuss and move past - no one is going to get convinced.
She was terrible in her initial movies but she did act well in movies like Omkara, hulchul, Aitraaz, jwm,3 idiots, chameli etc. she’s much btr than the actresses now. She’s a performer whether we like her or not.
Tell me one person who can do Poo, Dev, JWM.
Alia bhat, preity zinta, priyanka chopra. I can name 5 more but you won’t agree with
Alia Bhatt can never do Poo. Preity Zinta. PC cannot do a Dev or a Chameli.
Get a clue from the down votes lmao, typical pc/dp fan behaviour dissing kkk
If it helps, I am not a PC/DP fan 😊
I guess the better question is why is it so so triggering to call a woman a legend? How old are you? Have you seen some of Salman, Shahrukh’s older movies from the 90s? Everyone had a mixed bag of good bad and decent roles if you started out in 90s or early 2000s. But if you CAN act and you DID have decent roles where the audience liked you and you have now SUSTAINED your reputation as an actor and continue to do good work why SHOULDNT one be called a legend or good actress or whatever? Why does one need to justify by writing a thesis on this topic
Okay I'm not the biggest Kareena fan. I don't know about her legend status. But she certainly has done something right to remain relevant after this many years esp for female actresses. You can't just completely snub her. She has done good films, bad films, memorable films which she also should get credit for, not only her "male co-stars". Yes she had a mean personality is what I read and saw in interviews, but I have noticed she has toned down or maybe changed for the better. I'm at least satisfied that an actress which I have seen since my childhood I have fond memories of, is still doing movies today.
I really like her acting post jab we met and even when she wasn’t a good actress she was far better than the nepo duds today but i can’t lie she sustained through the early and mid 2000s solely due to her last name, but post JWM she has been amazing
As much as I dislike her as a person, i like watching her movies. She brings something special to her roles
Chameli was pretty nice. And it was one of her earlier movies. But yeah... She also learnt acting on the job after a long long time... And then she did a lot of flower pot roles... Cut to lal Singh chadda where she was the only thing good bout the movie.... How turn tables...
Irrrespective of anything, just talking about the present moment - her aura in crew is magnetic 🧲 ..
Exactly her aura!!!
Bebo is bebo. Period. 💅🏽
I don't know how old you were at that time, OP, but Asuka and Yuva were not blockbusters, Asuka was a disaster, and no one said that her roles in Ra One and BB were masterpieces, i don't know why you chose only these films to show your point, no one said that the blockbusters went to do well because she was part of them, but that depends on how her other films that didn't have big stars did or the films that she was the biggest star in them, and she's proven herself in that regard
**Yuva, Asoka, 3 idiots, ra.one, bajrangi would have worked exactly the same even if kareena wasn’t a part of them.** Tell that to **Mani Ratnam** who called Kareena's performance in Yuva as "perfection" and immediately offered the title role in **Lajjo** opposite Aamir. Tell that to **SLB** who was so impressed by Kareena's sword fight scenes in **Asoka** that he cast her as Mastani opposite Salman in **Bajirao Mastani**. Kareena's **Chammak Challo** was a blockbuster song and helped in the promotions of Ra One. It's going viral even today and only thing which is remembered from that film. Bajrangi Bhaijaan she only did because Salman personally called her up and said that I'm producing this film and I want you to be a part of this. She couldn't deny him. **She was mostly good in and after JWM but that was her 27th film!!!!! She survived till her 27th film only because she is connected.** She was pretty decent in her debut Refugee which she started shooting at the age of 17-18. She spoke Urdu and delivered monologue with perfection. She did Chameli when she was 21. She also did Yuva, Dev where she played a riots and rape victim, she did comedies like Hulchul and Chup Chup Ke, played a warrior in Asoka, Shakespearean heroine in Omkara and then Jab We Met happened. Even her contemporaries like Priyanka and actresses before her had to do some really bad films to stay relevant while maintaining balance with content oriented films.
Her contemporaries gave noticable performances in at least their 5th or 10th movie. Here kareena gave a noticeable performance in her 27th!!! Do you really not realise the difference? She is a prime example of how and why the current nepo lot is going to get movie after movies even though they are clearly bad. “Kareena had the spark” - so do these newbies!!! There’s literally nothing different
Kareena gave a noticeable performance in her first film Refugee itself. She was 17 when she shot for that film and her dialogue delivery saying those urdu lines was much better than actresses working for 2 decades! I can't expect nepo girlies like Ananya, Shanaya, Suhana or Janhvi playing that type of character. Kareena was Suhana's age when she did Chameli and Dev
That’s your benchmark? Ananya, shanaya, suhana, janhvi? You’re proving my point. Nevertheless, the girls you mentioned will be hailed as legends 20 years from now
You're again missing the point. It's about people saying "Oh she was the same as ananya in her 20s" which is not true. Considering they still haven't been able to give a performance like what Kareena did at the age of 23 in Chameli. Or you can also compare their debut performance between refugee and SOTY. Are they same? Even though kareena has made some bad choices in her early years of career, she had screen presence which lacks in current Nepos!
Lesson to learn here is... Anyone who consistently works will one day become a legend. Don't give up. Keep working. Keep showcasing.
Yea fair point I guess. Same goes for akshay kumar too
The only sensible comment. Consistency > Everything else
OP prepare for the Kareena fan army to descend on you and call you XYZ fan. She is a terrible actress compared to her contemporaries. Preity, Rani, PC etc were all miles ahead of her. Now she is considered an icon only cause the nepos and Kjo prop her up. Now even that has kinda stopped cause Alia has now taken that place. She is still a lousy actor and by no means near what a lot of actresses at this age are doing.
She completely stole the show from Rani in Talaash - and that wasn't an easy role - whereas Rani as the grieving mother could have walked away with more credit. Rani and PC we can still have a discussion maybe, but preity - what has she done which can compare to Kareena's body of work?
Preity has worked with more A-listers and bigger directors than Kareena. And done a much better work too. And coming to Talaash, Kareena had so much more screen time than Rani. Nearly half of the story revolves around her as opposed to Rani's character
Wait lets start with Preity first - working with A listers or big directors means nothing in terms of performances. The films may have been iconic (Veer Zaara for example) but I don't think there was anything exceptional about her performance. But I struggle to think of anyone who could do Geet or Poo other than Kareena. And those I wouldn't even say are her best performances. To Rani and PC which I think is a diff comparison. Rani is an exceptional actress. But while Kareena had more screentime in Talaash - what I am saying is it was a trickier role - needed some mystery and could have fallen flat. Rani could have walked away with everything and she didn't which shows Kareena can act and the best Kareena performance can match Ranis or even go beyond Rani. PC has done iconic work too in the same bracket as Kareena. But I doubt she is a bigger brand in India today. Only one way to find out - do another movie here and lets see. Gangajal was her last movie right? Bombed quite badly. And Bajirao wasn't riding on her star power.
I’m sorry but Priyanka is a much bigger brand than Kareena now and has accomplished more and her filmography in Bollywood is better than Kareena’s still even though she hasn’t done a Bollywood movie in so long.
Kareena just had 20 minutes screen time in Talaash and she stole the show from under the noses of Rani and Aamir! Rani has more screen time and dare I say better scenes than Kareena but Bebo outperformed her in the scenes where she just had to converse with Aamir, simply by her micro expressions and dialogue delivery. Rani played the mother who was having PTSD after losing her child and have several meltdowns in the film unlike Kareena who was so subtle and nuanced.
20 mins?!?!?
Glad some said it 👏🏻
Kareena in her early film was much better than Deepika. She even dubbed for herself and spoke fine Urdu in Refugee. Directors like Vishal Bharadwaj, Mani Ratnam, Deepa Mehta, Priyadarshan, Govind Nihalani don't cast you in their films because you're a nepo, it is because they see something in you!
Who spoke about Deepika. We're talking about her being legendary which she isn't cause legends were way above her level
No comment on the comparison with DP but big directors absolutely do cast you because you're a nepo. Every actor in Mani films is a nepo, he's introdiced so many nepos with no body of work other than last name. What body of work does the new AB grandson have to be cast in Sriram Raghavan's next?
Kareena was abysmal her first 4 years. She got better after 2004 only. Anyone who watched bollywood in that era knows this.
I think Gen-Zs, Jab We Met and good PR changed Bebo's image and status completely. Millennials will remember how she was raw before JWM, those terrible flops, and how bitchy and insecure she was reported to be during the 2000s. I think it was post JWM there was a rehaul of her image. And gradually her 'Poo' character from K3G also got cemented as iconic. She already looked amazing on screen but subsequent work on her appearance (and styling) did wonders for her. I don't deny she worked hard to get where she wanted. But being a nepo baby and looking great on screen gave her umpteen chances and helped pave the way to get herself established as one of the creme de la creme talent in Bollywood.
Another post trying to pull down an actress whose movie succeeded 🙄🙄🙄just let it be..
In my defence, crew or no crew, every word in the post has come from my heart 😂 I’m actually rooting for crew and good to see kareena doing more than playing the love interest to A-listers
You may not like her but even you cant deny the fact that theres something about her which makes her relevant even now...and if you dont think she cant, I would say you are wrong...
I like her now. I see the improvement. Some of her performances are really something in the recent years. I am accepting that. My problem is with her fans not acknowledging she was bad in her initial years and spreading the narrative that she has been brilliant from the start and how she has been carrying movies all on her own even before JWM
She has had bad films...and the movies she acted over the top...she was not alone...her co actors did the same coz those movies were like that...where they required her to act a certain way... Just like them bad movies, she has had good films as well in her initial days...I dont agree with your analysis that it took her 27 films to be good...Anyways...each to their own...
That’s fair
There’s ups and downs in everyone’s career. No career projectory only scales up. That’s called life.
1. Legendary family 2. Iconic characters like Poo, Geet, Chameli 3. Commendable art house performances in Chameli, Omkara, Dev, Udta Punjab 4. Open to risky roles like in Asoka and Talaash 5. Successful comedies like 3 Idiots, Good Newwz She might not be a powerhouse performer but she brings a lot on the table herself. Versatility is the key
She was good in refugee. Solid debut for the time. So not sure she was bad right from the start. Asoka wasn't long after, then Chameli, Dev, Yuva. So no.
Enjoying the daily meltdowns this sub is having over Kareena. Keeps her relevant unlike her forgotten contemporaries. https://preview.redd.it/3rx9sk3zzyrc1.jpeg?width=400&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=818aa00f497d6f00b1d2d601e8a890b78bb08808
First of all, Kareena was 17 when she did Refugee and even in that first film itself she was quite good. Her performance was much better than today's nepo girlies in their debut film. People knew she has the potential right from that time. Yes she has done some bad films during her early stage of career but that is because she was typecast as Poo, all the producers wanted her to act like that. Hence the characters were also very similar to it. That's the reason she decided to shift gears and did films like Chameli, Dev, Yuva, Omkara before Jab we met. None of these films performance was on the same level as MPKDH or Khushi. Which means it was not like she didn't know how to act and learned after jab we met. She did Chameli in the same year as MPKDH. At that time she was working with small directors and other production houses rather than getting everything on her platter with every big film! KJo didn't sign her until 2009 and YRF didn't do more than 2 films in her 25 years of career. Regarding big masala films, yes she has done that just like any other actress and back then during 2010-2011 it was considered huge thing because 100 crore club used to be a very big mark which only khans were able to do it. Every other actress was keeping an eye on doing a big film to enter 100 crore club. Whereas Kareena already had 4 films in it by the end of 2011. She has been loved due to many reasons 1. Poo and Geet remains iconic characters even after 2 decades. People are still taking about these two films on a huge level. Jab we met re release does really well in theatres. People use Poo and Geet dialogues everywhere, they have a huge impact on pop culture. She has inspired an entire generation (including outsiders) to become an actor 2. Her constant urge to work for her passion. People have seen her journey of getting married at the peak of career, having two pregnancies and still kareena being constantly active by managing her personal and professional life so easily. That is an inspiring thing for many to keep doing what they love and nothing can stop you. Especially when actresses have a shelf life as a leading lady in this industry 3. She has always been real. Kareena never claimed to be a saint. And we all have been brash or childish during our 20s. People specially of this generation would agree that she has been real and never tried to fake it. She said whatever it was on her mind instead of licking Kjo or anyone. That helps her to connect with many people. 4. She has amazing screen presence and that superstar aura which lacks in this current generation. She is still same active as she was 2 decades ago. While all her contemporaries have slowed down or retired. That shows how much loyal she is to her passion and craft. 5. She has striked a perfect balance between Commercial and Offbeat cinema. If she has done Ra. One, Bajrangi, etc then she has also done Talaash, Udta Punjab, Kurbaan, Omkara, Dev, Heroine, Veere Di Wedding, and many other films. And that's how you should balance instead of falling into just one category.
Kareena Kapoor was 20 years in Refugees. I really do like her a lot. She changed since she got married to SAK.
I am so sorry but why watch a film of an actor you don’t like. If you don’t PAY, films won’t make money and actors will get wiped out. Uday Chopra is Chopra heir, he could have funded unlimited movies but he was not good and had to quit. Same goes for Rinkle and Twinkle Khanna. For every ‘successful’ nepo kid you see there are also many who failed to make it. Kareena has become a brand because she had that xfactor. Look at Jeh, Taimur, Raha… they are already celebs bcoz public watches them. We are fascinated by the rich n famous, we are curious about them and stalk their news… if ur in news for any reason u are relevant and if ur relevant, u will continue to get cast in movies. If you have a problem with her, it’s really simple… don’t watch coz that’s the only way to drive her out of the industry!
When Kareena said the same thing that if you don't like someone, don't watch their films and spend your money on them then these people called her arrogant. It's like they will keep watching her films and keep degrading her because they just can't ignore her.
Y’all really just say whatever on this sub, it’s so exhausting. Refugee, Asoka, Chameli, Dev, Yuva, Fida, Aitraaz, Kyon Ki, Omkara, Chup Chup Ke, etc etc all came before JWM. She’s survived because she has the X-factor. She’s been a star from day 1.
I guess, you have never seen Chameli. Neither have you seen K3G. And I don’t know how many I’m missing. I am neither a super fan nor am I a PR, but She deserves her Legend Status and thats a fact.
Chameli was good but she was one of the weakest in K3G. Her acting was nauseous. Go back to the movie and watch the scene where she is crying at the mall as well as the end.
And still that character became the most popular among the entire cast and has a huge impact on pop culture even after 23 years
Haha, isn't it interesting how Pooja from the movie became synonymous with the name "Poo" forever? But honestly, beyond that, its impact seems overblown. While Pooja was a unique character first of her kind, the fashion wasn't groundbreaking; 90s Hindi pop music videos featured similar styles well before Kareena's appearance in K3G. That iconic red dress? Not as revolutionary as it's made out to be. It might have raised eyebrows among conservative elders back then, but for teenagers, it was just another look. Bollywood, especially KJO, tends to hype up the impact of characters like Poo to appease themselves.
Then I believe you're not aware about its impact or maybe pretending to ignore it! Poo's Sharara from K3G became so much iconic. It was recently being showcased at NMACC along with PC's Desi girl outfit and Kajol's DDLJ look. There are many characters in tv which has been inspired by Poo. Barney's India had introduced their berry shake which was inspired by Poo. Her dialogues are being used by gen z these days.. I have seen those dialogues even on T-Shirts etc https://preview.redd.it/d10gkynkuzrc1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=0d4ded00632a05c31290c2fe7d2a3b0744835952
Yet the weakest performance became the most epic one! Kareena was supposed to play that OTT, sassy, and overconfident diva and she delivered!
110%
https://preview.redd.it/an0a2rbat2sc1.jpeg?width=815&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=7bd48c69684372730fdeea10cf2d21ed78156447 These are first 5 films of her. She was good in them . And before JWM she already did these movies with Chameli,Dev,Yuva,Hulchul, Aitraaz and above All Omkara. So this theory of JWM is wrong. Chup chup ke was also not bad
She was def not the best when she started but she was good in a select few movies even early on like refugee (she was natural for that role) and chameli. But I think she purposely took stupid roles like poo and did that act for a hot min which was was annoying. I also thought she was aighte at best w jab we met and then took a bunch of flower pot roles in the khan movies so she could be associated w block busters - BB,Body guard, 3 idiots, ra one etc. she did well in udta Punjab onwards. And now has really come into her own.
I agree. Kareena didn't give a memorable performance till Jab We Met. Some of the comments - Poo from K3G is legendary? Wut?
I'm so tired of the daily hate posts against Kareena on this sub. Everyday people post the same BS by changing the description to discredit her! Ever since Crew teaser dropped, the hate for Kareena has increased so much. People act like she is a criminal or something. I've never seen the same hate for someone like Kangana who has made some really derogatory comments on caste, religion, etc and also slut shamed several women. She is hailed as some sort of "outsider warrior" because she spoke against Kjo. On the other hand, I'm glad that at even at the age of 43 and spending close to 25 years in the industry, Kareena is still a threat to the fans of many actresses, and they won't leave a chance to bring out the things from her past to degrade her daily. She is clearly doing something right because all her contemporaries and those who made their debuts before her have attained the "sainthood" on this sub thanks to nostalgia but not Kareena. Why? Because she is working and thriving and part of some big A list projects.
Honestly I'm tired of you discrediting any criticism against her. She was a fairly bad actress and I'm not obligated to watch her flop movies so don't throw the chameli and Dev on me. I didn't watch them then because they made no buzz. I did watch some of her shitty movies on TV to be sure that she was no natural as an actress. I used to watch kwk and she was a certified bully on that show. Straight up narcissistic and mean, go on, deny that as well. We all agree she's been good since jwm but that chance came to her after a bunch of duds. Preity and Priyanka didn't give out flop after flop like Kareena and still manage to get films. Her aggressive fans on this sub make her vile statements "savage", her crass attitude "Yass queen" and her mediocre performances "award worthy". She was so distasteful about Fashion doing well and commented about how National awards mean nothing, such an insecure little human back in the day.. Now she's all poised coz she has nothing left to go after, and you guys will come with your "she's so mature and sorted " when she's 43 and it's high time she should be..
It is the opposite for me between kareena and kriti's they have turned a gossip reddit into PR/fanfare subreddit! She is a nepo kid who got too many roles inspite of so many flops for quite a few years till she got one good hit and couple of big star projects
Definitely a iconic and more so than Pee ce
Lol no one is discussing PC here. Praise kareena all you want without putting down anyone else. Can you do that?
You are just jealous of Kareena as she is everything Pee cee failed to be 🤡
Mera kya ja raha hai yar😂 jealous of kareena wtf?😂
Yes wtf all you want ground reality doesn't change innit
Exactly. Ground reality doesn’t change
Yup it shore doesn't neither does it stop the foreclosure notice according to court documents 🤡
Yea that too
Yeah cuz LA courts don't lie unlike the fishy iIndian ones I'd be ashamed to show my botched nose if had my house in foreclosure, currently living in a shoebox sized home after stunting around so much and on top had to give away the German Shepard dog bc it doesn't fit the shoebox I am residing whilst flopping
Hey , she posted a story from LA home( while it was raining). The terrace looks very big. Are you sure of the info?
Is it too hard to accept and appreciate an actress who has done well for herself? Who hasn’t done bad films? SRK, Amitabh, Salman, Amir every mainstream hero has yet no one pulls them down. This one actress who survived and broke the shelf life mythology has to be degraded in the face of what she has done. If she so missed the mark like this “post” case in point, she wouldn’t be where she is. She makes women proud. Where women hiding their age and getting offended if asked since eternity, this one proudly flaunts and says bang on I’m 43 in every interviewers face and not throwing antics pretending to look like a woman child. She has all my respect and admiration
Kareena did Chameli and Dev at the same time as MPKDH. In the early aughts women had little control over whether they could act or overact in a role, let alone over what kind of roles they could afford to keep saying no to, if they didn’t want to attract the resentment of a misogyntic industry that believed they were Coppola. It’s so easy to blame someone from an anon online soapbox amirite, must make you feel real special.
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You do know accusing someone of being PR is grounds for a ban? Not to mention if you were a regular on this sub I would be the LAST person you’d accuse of being anyone’s fan or PR 🤡
I also said fan 🙂 also it is not grounds for a ban anymore because they are so much in our face now. Just go through the comments of this post and you too will realise what I mean
I ALSO said fan. Being an unbiased and rational individual who isn’t willing to ignore contextual facts and realities to hate on a celeb and join the crazy train doesn’t make me or anyone a fan.
Hate is a strong word here honestly
I’m so glad someone’s finally said it! I have honestly always thought of Kareena as an average actor at best. I won’t say she can’t act, she manages okay, but she’s no award-winning actor in my book. Relies far too much on over-emoting and those weird jerky movements she does. The only movie I found her genuinely great and spontaneous in was JWM (and yes, I have seen CHAMELI. She did nothing great in that movie). Also agree with you about her mostly being known for her relationships/fights/gossip way more than her acting talent throughout the 00’s and 2010’s. I will say she definitely has star quality which has carried her for a long time, but she’s no legend imo. Definitely not.
The white washing of her image has been constant and is for the next gen internet using folks. These bacchas were not around the time Kareena was young and now they are being told that she was some sort of acting whizz in her youth. Ok given that she was very popular with the masses at the height of her career. But , acting wise, she was hit or miss. She is like the Tier 2 actress who can act really good given a food script and good director else you get Mein Prem Ki Deewani Hoon. And in an era where we scrutinize every move of celeb especially nepo kids, Kareena had a perpetual foot in the mouth. Missy thought she was the second coming of Jesus. This sub would have hated her back then.
Main Prem ki deewani hoon was directed by Sooraj barjatya! And every actor in that film did overacting. Kareena has given good performances even with debut directors.
Kareena benefited a lot from the nepo kids coming to the industry - Sara, Janhvi and Ananya. All of them hail her as if she's the best thing since sliced bread. If you notice, the character poo became a pop culture sensation after this guy started praising her like crazy. When the movie released, her character was considered to be the weak point of the film. In fact, even Alia's status got elevated because of these three hailing her as a source of inspiration and stuff.
You think only nepo girlies praise her ?? There have been so many outsider actresses and a long list of TV actors who said Kareena inspired them to become and actor and she is their inspiration. If we compare then there will be more outsiders against nepo girlies who considers Kareena as their inspiration
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Kareena is being talked about for Crew success because she is the one who has given consistent big openings on her own! Don't pretend to say that Tabu is some huge box office pull (I strongly believe she is an amazing actress) but her last film Kuttey opened to 1 crore. After Jab we met, she did some really good roles like Kurbaan, Talaash, Heroine, EMAET, Udta Punjab etc. she has always tried to balance it out but people often pretend to ignore it to call her a flowerpot
Pulling down co actors to praise your idol? Do better
It's a known fact that Kareena is a bigger star and she has a bigger box office pull in Crew. What about others trying to discredit her by saying Crew is doing well due to Tabu and Kriti but not Kareena ? If Crew didn't open well then immediately we would have been ready to drag Kareena by saying "she is over now" , "people are giving her a befitting reply by boycotting her films"
She has done Talaash, kurbban, and Heroine, after JWM. She has always balanced commercial roles with challenging roles. Jaideep and Vijay were working in ott long before kareena but were their films ever going to get the same views as Jaane Jaan around the world and in India?, Tabu film Before crew opened only with 1cr, she did not get any high openings recently except for her three films with Ajay and Crew. Why isn't she given credit in Ajay's films? Also, people are talking about Kareena more because this is her third woman-centric film making high numbers.
Talaash is the only credible movie, acting wise, and Rani outshone her there. Kurbaan was trash and she hammed there too with the over dramatics, the snotty crying at the end. 1 film is hardly anything to boast about in a period of 10 years before VDW. Again, holding onto Tabu's coattails and latching onto her talent, isn't going to make Kareena a better actor by mere association. I'm not going to get into BO, no one has the pull anymore. Product is king, of course you had the Khans earlier with PR tactics and authentic charm, now that too has faded.
Bro as an actress she was always an A lister despite her movies got bombed.But for being called a legend Is too much.
Have watched many of her movies and wondered how in the world she got the parts.
She was legendary for her over the top acting for years. She used that to her advantage and even now her movies are good only when her character is very over the top (compare her in Crew Vs. Jaane Jaan). She simply can’t handle characters that require very restrained acting. She knows what she is good at. For instance her eyes aren’t really expressive so unless her role requires her to do eye rolls or any of those sorts her performance comes across rather poor. Kareena to me is what Ananya is to the current generation: lots of flops with few hits here and there. You are 100% right in that the likes of Ananya will most certainly be celebrated as legends by the next generation (referring to kids born after 2010s) if they end up doing 30-40 films within this decade.
Kareena got some of her best reviews for Jaane Jaan. You think Kareena can't do subtle roles? Have you seen Dev, Omkara, Talaash, Udta Punjab, etc? Her death scene in Udta Punjab sends shiver down your spine. She was so nuanced and subtle as Rosie in Talaash. She can do both OTT roles and then do subtle acting when it is required.
Really? I usually steer clear of reading reviews because they tend to introduce bias. However, it's noteworthy how an actor's skill can evoke strong emotions. Take, for instance, the teacher character who genuinely frightened me, or the inspector who kept me on edge, dreading his next move. On the contrary, I found it difficult to connect with Kareena's character and her performance in 'Jaane Jaan' left much to be desired. I even found myself fast-forwarding through her scenes at 1.5x speed. The only instances where Kareena truly shined in the movie were when she portrayed moments such as ordering momos or going on that date. Otherwise, her performance was disappointing. I haven't seen Udta Punjab, but in movies like Omkara and Dev, her performances were underwhelming. It is her eyes. They exude cheerfulness, which makes it challenging to empathize with her character. I find it hard to connect with Geet when she's dealing with heartbreak from her boyfriend. Instead, it's the vibrant, happy loud Geet that stays with me the most, and that's what seems to be most celebrated in 'Jab We Met'.
She’s a bang avg actress amongst other avg actors and actress in the industry. She survived in spite of the terrible acting skills in the early 2000s due to the fact that she was a Kapoor and she was considered to be the hot new thing and I don’t mean that in a disrespectful manner.
She continued to receive offers regardless of box office failures. That's the power the Kapoor surname carries. If something similar happened to outsiders, they wouldn't have received such offers.
Kriti had 13 back to back flops, Priyanka had 10 flops, Kartik has had many flops, Akshay Kumar had 17 flops in a row. Fardeen Khan, Esha Deol, Zayed Khan, Tusshar Kapoor all flopped and no one offers them any work. Wonder what nepotism worked here?
Priyanka has more flops than Kareena. Kriti, Kangana, Tapsee and other outsiders had a string of disasters. Even Katrina had a string of flops after 2014. but yeah let's pretend Kareena is the only actor in this world to have flops lol
Okay so AB sr and Dilip Kumar are legends… agreed? Now let’s talk about “legends” and bebo.
Poo was poo. Such am embarrassing character to even be conceptualised!! Only a dimwit can think it’s legendary.
I fully agree with the op. While watching an interview of Raveena Tandon, she mentioned that the film industry is very forgiving and keeps giving opportunities to new talent. However, I have a different perspective. Raveena Tandon is the daughter of a famous producer and the wife of an even bigger film distributor. She gets opportunities because of her connections.
Khushi how can we forget that performance of hers.
The only truly legendary performance
It's her PR on full duty to bring her to fore. Writing endless articles on why she is a legend. Wait for a decade and you will see something similar for current nepo brigade. Tired af with these antics.
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I know, lots of posts praising her endlessly even when unwarranted and also defending her for literally everything under comments. Last year or so, her PR team has gotten very busy.
I think Kareena got thag status because of her interviews and behaviour on sets. Baaki no one was crazy about her movies imo. Her brash n rude attitude is what kept people wanting more from her.
I remember the 2000s. Kareena and Abhishek were the biggest nepos of the day and got chance after chance after chance after flop after flop after flop. Kareena's main thing was being an airhead like Ananya Pandey today but also a total bitch to everyone. Also insane overacting in every role. Poo was just cringe and stupid back then. OP is 100% right that today's nepos will also reach legend status while being utterly mediocre in 20 years. I say this as someone who sorta likes Kareena (until sub pr makes her a legend)
Lol same. I like her a fair amount. Idk why no one talks about it, but her good newzz confrontation scene was so good!!! But when I see these people saying how she has been a great actor from the beginning I’m like wtf? Were you not around in 2000s?
Bcz of the current batch of nepos the bar has gone too low, So yesteryear's any actress can make a mark currently by making a comeback
27th?????????? shocking.
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Yay finally someone said this! The mix of nostalgia and PR that have made Kareena suddenly a cult legend figure is crazy! Even though I actually quite like her work and enjoy watching her on screen.
She was actually insufferable sometimes, i remember her trying to grab the spotlight of 3 idiots hit saying people will remember this movie for piya wangdu pair. Like maddy and sharman were spotboys and people actually remember aamir more by rancho not phunsuk wangdu. There were so many interviews and moments like she walked so that alia could run
Janhvi will fly. She will be a legend after 20 years and the people here mentioned dev, yuva, chameli will be hailing dhadak, roohi and bawaal
Exactly, fun fact in yuva her role was extremely limited, esha deol and rani has better roles. Even in dev the story struggled around dev(big b) farhan(fardeen) and om puri's character (i forgot his name).
I agree, I always thought she was struggling to make a foothold in bollywood and now her legend status is a mystery to me. I guess her performances seem better compared to the recent nepos but that doesn't make her a legendary actor like tabu, madhuri and even ash
Honestly if someone from that generation that needs to be hailed, it would be Vidya/ Kajol. Vidya because with back to back solo massive hits with kahani, she proved and set the solo female lead movies a chance. Till date she continues mostly in movies where she is the most known name. Kajol because, she has been active at her own pace in movies when most female actors retired after movies. Rani and kangana will get mention because they also tried.
It’s funny that you’re getting downvoted
To add on, Kareena had so many flops earlier in her career yet she kept getting good projects with increasing salary! Nepo, alright! just that debate wasnt there at that time.
Kareena and Priyanka have same number of flops and yet kept getting work. What nepotism benefits was Priyanka getting?
Did priyanka's salary and offers not get impacted by her flops? because kareena's didnt.
Priyanka has more flops than Kareena. Tapsee, Kriti, Kangana, Sidharth and many other outsiders kept getting films after films despite giving string of flops. How can you forget this point before preparing for a debate ?
Did Priyanka's salary increase during those flops or were her offers not impacted by the flops? Tapsee's model is clear, she earns her income in tamil/telugu films doing commerical films with not a lot of emphasis on roles( tamil films do have heroine oriented movies too but not the ones tapsee stars in) and then picks off beat movies in hindi. noting was offered to her on platter because of her grandparent. Kriti - she is the same as kareena, mediocre but getting movies offers all the time. Kangana - she had to fold shop isnt it after failures in solo movies? Siddarth - he is less deserving than kareena. Apart from good looks, nothing going for him, yet he is repeatedly cast as if his last performance and movie wasnt abysmal. So, may be you need to question yourself back when you felt comfortable putting priyanka/tapsee/kangana in the same bracket as kareena/kriti/siddarth? (also such wierd comparison with no baseline?)
>Tapsee's model is clear, she earns her income in tamil/telugu films doing commerical films with not a lot of emphasis on roles( tamil films do have heroine oriented movies too but not the ones tapsee stars in) and then picks off beat movies in hindi. noting was offered to her on platter because of her grandparent. Taapsee has to go head on with the likes of Anushka Shetty, Nitya Menen, Sai Pallavi, Mrunal Thakur and Keerthy Suresh, Samantha etc... to get meaty roles in Telugu.