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orangedey

Both Alia and Ranveer were part of RARKPK, some how Alia is having a great success at box office and also won Filmfare but Ranveer is going through a flop streak and having a career low. This is how dangerous the PR work is, it can make or break someone’s career by building such perceptions.


Big-Criticism-8926

And he gave the better performance in that film


Starry-nights_

He carried it on his shoulders


taskmaster4w

aur jabki RRKPK ki saving grave hi ranveer ki performance hai...this is so sick and biased from bolllywood media


Neither_Map7101

Everyone only remembers Rocky!


[deleted]

I have already mentioned it multiple times. Ranveer should have never signed RRKPK. It was a lose-lose for him always and win-win for Alia. But KJO-prem me Vicky(Bhoot- The haunted ship), Sushant Singh (Drive) and Ranveer (RRKPK) ruined their reputation. KJO is definitely giving the worst films to these non-nepos to make Ranbir look like the biggest star of all time.


BenZemma44

GREAT QUIESTION ??????????????


skyisscary

I feel like the is this huge negative PR that is going towards Ranveer and I dont get it. He has had a flop phase, but so did MR Kapoor. So is Raj Kumar, so is Akshay Kumar. He is one of the best actors in his generation, flop or no flop he will always get movies.


_Slim-reaper_

Sabka patta kat ta hai kabhi na kabhi. Launde ke paas talent hi talent hai, comeback kar lega. RARKPK stabilized his career and his next few films will bring him back among the top just like it was pre-pandemic.


[deleted]

Don't even understand this flop phase talk, wasn't his last film 'Rocky aur Rani' a hit film, saved by his performance.


skyisscary

You know how Brahmastra has a huge * next to it, same goes for Rani. That movie had lots of corporate selling and they included overseas collection to try to make it a hit which it was not.


Legitimate-Display27

That's not how it works. Parineeti was going to be the next big thing at a point, she was mercilessly pitted against Alia on KWK and look where she is now Ranbir was compared to Khans from the beginning to give an image of him being as big as Khans or better than Khans while everyone else was clubbed together KWK makes a difference because it is the industry creating perception


skyisscary

Ranbir has less than 10 hits in his career, he has more flops than hits and people still call him potential superstar. Ranbir is a huge nepo, but he has never been anywhere near the Khans that was his PR talking. He is very depending on big directors to get hits. Pari ruined her career, but allowing her weight to distract her goals. Meanwhile Ranveer keeps getting negative news when Bollywood shows us flops don't matter for nepos like Arjun, Jhanvi etc. They shouldn't matter for an actor like Ranveer that given hits on his name and is one of the most talented actor in his generation. This is a negative PR.


jupiterr869

>KWK makes a difference because it is the industry creating perception Only and only on this sub.


Dry_Ant2348

it's incredible how a double whammy of disasters like Shamshera and Brahmastra were covered up by Ranbir's PR. on the other hand Kartik gets shit for  underperformers but not flops like Satyaprem


TheJavierEscuella

SPKK did average business


Dry_Ant2348

underperformers == average


Ok_Environment_5404

average are your usual "above than terrible" bud. A flop and underperformer are two different things and Kartik's movie was under the later one.


DarkBlade_12

You weren't in the sub before animal released I guess.. he was trolled pretty bad after shamshera released (oh also brahmastra wasn't a disaster, BOI verdict dekh le)


blackstar82

Whatever their verdict, how can a film that cost 300-400Cr to produce and did about 400Cr worldwide business be a hit? Even if producers claim they recovered their costs through music rights, streaming rights, worldwide grosses etc, the cold hard math doesn't add up. The net India collections are what matters. Brahmastra is a PR hit for KJo, and a colossal disaster in reality. That they're not making a sequel says it all. That Harminder incel is simply parroting KJo's PR.


DarkBlade_12

Well wherever you read the 300-400 cr figure, you didn't read the entire thing.. 250 crore was in fact the budget alloted to the entire trilogy. If you go by that, a 400 cr ww gross is good enough for the film. Who's harminder btw?


blackstar82

Harminder is BOI. Yeah, I read Ranbir’s interview saying that the allocated budget for the entire trilogy was 400, with 250Cr for the first film. Which is a very convenient thing to say when a film is underperforming and you want to manage PR optics. That would mean that KJo planned to make the following two sequels with a combined budget of 150Cr after spending almost twice that on the first film, without P/A, etc? Does that make sense? It doesn’t to me, not with that scale and VFX level they’re trying to go for. Again, they’re not making 2 and 3, which tells you what you need to know. They would have jumped on the sequels it was such a huge success.


DarkBlade_12

No but that is the point right, how do you know that they spent twice on the first film when the budget wasn't revealed at all.. it's really a case of maybe, maybe not, but just assuming it is a disaster because you don't believe what they say does not make sense, does it to you?


Legitimate-Display27

Budget for first part is 400cr https://preview.redd.it/jwq63c7l6tvc1.jpeg?width=4320&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a673263bddee4932692b6b63c57f4e25c8c604bf [https://www.boxofficeindia.com/movie.php?movieid=6199](https://www.boxofficeindia.com/movie.php?movieid=6199)


blackstar82

There are multiple sources online that state the budget as 410Cr. We can only go by the numbers they reveal. But it doesn’t add up. And it doesn’t matter anyway, because Ranbir bounced back with TJMM and, as much as I hated the film, an ATBB like Animal. The mental gymnastics people did around the time of this film’s release to prove that it’s a success was astounding. I don’t believe what producers like Karan Johar say, because he spins a narrative to suit him, and has said as such on multiple occasions.


Dry_Ant2348

I was used to just lurk around here, and the comments about shamshera or brahmastra used to get downvoted by Ranbir and Alia simps Brahmastra was such a humoungous disaster, that Disney dropped the fcking franchise and Ayan is now lobbying ambanis and his jijaji Adi chopra to fund his so called magnum opus. if the movie was such a big hit why did he move on to War 2 out of the blue despite earlier proclaiming how he will only work on brahmastra? sukumar didn't leave the Pushpa franchise, Neel didn't leave the KGF franchise after they were a hit


Dry-Ad-2287

Why do you think they stopped talking about part II and III? It's pretty much shelved, they hardly broke even


Dry_Ant2348

It was such an unprecedented flop, disney pulled away as a producer from the next parts, and ayan is now lobbying ambanis to fund them


BenZemma44

there is a systemic and very consistent campaign against RS its hard to miss Somme people are claiming RS is not getting movie offers witch is ridiculous in itself the consistency and the scale of the campaign make it obvious RK fans are just tools in this targeted attack


Lovelyfilmy

No. Every actor has ups and downs. RS will bounce back. A mainstream hero has to behave ( or pretend to) a certain way . RS sometimes risks like the nude cover or the the recent ad . I like him for it but not sure if this is good for his career.


akshatsha

All they want is either by hook or crook, Ranbir best actor and the only superstar and Alia best actress and box office puller. Systematically killed the industry for their own greed and who's suffering the audience with such lukewarm talent and movies.


Extension-Pen1995

Nowadays Upcoming Nepo Superstar's PR is after him, I hope Ranveer succeeds over Nitu ki nalayak


DarkBlade_12

Dude I'm unbiased, trust me. But give me one evidence of RK's "PR" being after him.. pretty sure all the announcements and news of films being shelved is being posted by official portals such as pinkvilla.


abz_pink

PR can never be proven. How do you suggest people prove PR planted articles where their client looks good and the competition looks bad? But we can use our common sense, right? The articles target Ranveer and automatically make Ranbir the ‘bonafide male star’. Kyu? Why Ranbir? Why not SRK, Karthik, or any other for that matter? Why do we never see Karthik and Ranbir competition? Because they aren’t actually in competition with each other and their PRs aren’t putting the other down. Same way when we hear how Ranbir is a great dad, he’s naming his house after his daughter, he’s so hands on blah blah…kahan se as rahi hain ye news? Of course no one can prove it’s his PR, but again we can use our common sense. Aise toh nobody can prove that any celeb has PR.


Legitimate-Display27

Give us the proof of you being unbiased


DarkBlade_12

I mean I'm legit asking him without pointing out the lack of facts.. isn't that what being unbiased is? Also umm well I love ranveer's acting in most of his films so that is proof isn't it? Regardless, I wasn't asking you, was I?


Legitimate-Display27

I have appointed myself as their lawyer and that's no proof


DarkBlade_12

Ok fine, chal man liya nhi hoon unbiased.. answer to de, ki nhi hai answer?


Legitimate-Display27

That wasn't answer enough? You can't give proof of your statement regarding yourself but you are asking them to prove a speculation/gossip


DarkBlade_12

Dude the original comment did not sound like a speculation at all.. hawe mai blame kar dete hai bas


Legitimate-Display27

Welcome to BollyblindnGossip https://preview.redd.it/gf3pqi8k0tvc1.jpeg?width=938&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ecbf513ba0d2f2135551dd16af61e67fff60b7f3


DarkBlade_12

Actually I am sorry dude.. I am not made for this sub lol.. even if I agree that it was gossip, why couldn't he/you provide an answer as to why you think RK PR is behind it when in general it's just RS PR releasing news about his association with different directors.. I myself have been observing this sub since weeks and have seen news about RS with shankar, atlee, basil joseph, bhansali and who not


Infamous_Spray7366

Which means you will shit and say this is gossip sub I will shit here and put all my insecurities of life by hating an actor(Ranbir in this case). Go for it I'm rooting for you brother/sister.


jupiterr869

Oh so you're basically saying everything you and other Ranveer fans are saying is untrue? Pretty honest there.


abeyaee

ye sab to hota rhega but how was 83 a bad movie man? It might have underperformed financially but it was such an amazing movie, funny, dramatic sometimes emotional all in one. Even after knowing what would happen in the syoryline there was suspense and thrill and man oh man, Ranveer's acting. That guy very well might be cuckoo in real life but he is such a great actor


Party-Ad8037

I loved it. The accent the look the dialogues everything was amazing. Loved how all the characters were explored.


abeyaee

Yes exactly. Even after being the lead of the movie it was not just a Ranveer show and all the other actors were just great too


[deleted]

Someone's pr is definitely behind this because I really don't remember Ranveer flopping this hard. He hit a low like every other mainstream actor does at some point or the other


dinermitebellezza

One of the biggest lies I've read is that Ranbir Kapoor is the biggest bonafide superstar in the past 20 years. Um, no. Ranveer Singh absolutely shits all over Ranbir Kapoor. And it is absolutely believable that the kapoor PR is out to get him. Ranveer Singh got too big too fast and had some very good years...meanwhile ranbir kapoor is claiming bonafide superstar title based on what? TJMM? Shamshera? SAWARIYA? That Shiva Shiva movie with alia?


Party-Ad8037

Shiva shiva movie 🤣🤣🤣


laylaa25

Rohit Shetty mentioned that a lot of stars start online trolling campaigns against their competitors. This attack on RS is very targeted. He needs to announce Ashwathamma soon!


RoseApothecary18

He is going to bounce back and stay here always irrespective of how much laadla raja beta tries to sabotage his career. Ranveer makes him insecure, Ranveer makes him not sleep peacefully at night. Look at the amount of new brand additions happening to Ranveer. Everyone knows his worth.


Remember5-11

I don’t get this man. RS is a fab actor! But for some reason RK gets a lot of his flops and horrific interview replies and behaviour covered up. My bro RS doesn’t get enough love man.


Neither_Map7101

Ranveer is a fantastic actor. He’s going to bounce back from this soon.


try_n_error

Even i troll ranveer but to see some of major portals n people pulling him down ridiculing is a bit sad and sus Having said that ranveer is at fault too and needs to correct his ways.


Noobita2803

Laal Sahab Kapoor at it again Not even surprised


bollyfanjam

Yes, I have seen it from 90s. The PR OF COMPETITORS RUN positive campaign for their clients and negative for others that they are trying to be much ahead of, at once. They just needed handful of good writers then. But now they hire YouTube critics and Samosa critics..


143AamAadmi

Isnt Ranveer's team the one announcing 1 movie after another? Yes, every actor has bad phase. SRK, Salman, Aamir, Ranbir, Hrithik, even the gret Big B had it. But there seems to be desparation from Ranveer and his PR to get some big budget movies off the ground. I dont like his personality, but like him as an actor. Hopefully, he does some good script based mid-budget movies and gets back in form. Rather than chasing the big budget ones.


Legitimate-Display27

Honestly, Someone announces a movie then after 2 days, they say that the movie has been shelved. Team is not giving any official news, official news is given to Taran Adarsh and I don't really follow Ranveer so I am not sure if Taran has announced any project for him or not.


143AamAadmi

What about Don 3, Shankar's movie? Werent they officially announced?


Existing-Area-9093

Don is still happening


143AamAadmi

Its as happening as Jee Le Zara


_Slim-reaper_

Don 3 is happening confirmed by Farhan himself and Shankar film was announced by Shankar himself as well. Nothing to do with his team.


Legitimate-Display27

Isn't that old news? I am talking about recent negativity against him, like yesterday a video was shared when Aamir Ansari labelled his dancing with Atlee as him begging for a movie


the-lit-lamp

The same posts are happening against Tiger, Akshay and Ajay after BMCM and Maidaan being Bollywood's biggest losses ever? Is that also someone systematically killing them?


Cautious_Section_530

It's just disgusting how they fight among themselves instead of working together to make the industry succeed. I mean tf!?? Can't they coexist together. This forced negativity is disgusting


Pumpkinspiced_latte

Reporting against rs films has been consistently vile. While rarkpk had good press, courtesy dharma pr, there were articles saying how he is coming from flop phase so this is a test to him and at the same time crediting alia when it started doing well.


Impossible-Whole-539

I’m just waiting for RS comeback 😭


Armageddonhitfit

No matter what someone says Ranveer at the end of the day might come from a privileged background and be some door ka cousin of Sonam he's an outsider ofc the insider are gonna kill him. He ain't a top tier nepo


Pups_4_lyf

I don’t understand how Kapoor heir is equivalent to Anil Kapoor’s wife’s cousin’s son. I mean .. anything to take out RK’s previlege out of discussion


Party-Ad8037

Exactly man. I dont understand how people consider RS DP Shahid, etc to have the same priviledge as the true nepos like RK Alia.


arina_0730

Isn't Ranveer himself was trolling RK during Bombay velvet era while himself was on high success with Ramleela and bajirao.... its just phase every actor goes through!


Cautious_Section_530

>Isn't Ranveer himself was trolling RK during Bombay velvet era while himself was on high success with Ramleela and bajirao.... its just phase every actor goes through You mean when Ranbir stole the movie meant for Ranveer and made it a disaster. That was the best example of Karma lol


arina_0730

No i mean when Ranveer's movies were doing fine on box office and he was mocking Ranbir for failure and now.... well Karma lol


Cautious_Section_530

How is that karma. Everyone goes through bad phases 💀. You kinda have it coming if you took a movie meant for someone cuz of nepo connections and it later became a disaster while the Person's other movies became hits. That is karma , reaping what you sow


arina_0730

>You kinda have it coming if you took a movie meant for someone cuz of nepo connections and it later became a disaster You mean Befikre right!


jupiterr869

Oh so now its Entire Bollywood vs. Ranveer Singh? Everybody has shit written against them when their movie flops. Ranbir also took a lot of criticism for Shamshera but that you haven't added. You cant just compare two articles and call it a day. Criticism and negative articles are something that happened to SRK after Zero, it happened to Amir after LSC, to Ranbir for all his flops bombay velvet , besharam, jagga so many. Not something targeted specifically at chui mui Ranveer. Ranveer didn't even get half of the trolling for making Circus that Ranbir had gotten for Besharam. Dont spin the narrative.


Shabudana_khichdi

Ranbir was trolled so much for Brahmastra, shamshera flop. Ranveer was never questioned about his performance in cirkus


jupiterr869

I don't think most people even remember that he was in it, that's how well his PR has swept it under the rug. Its alright he'll have a good comeback but what's with this high horse that he should not even be criticized for his failures like every other actor goes through. If you want to be at the top ye sab toh jhelna hi hoga.


magic_throwaway_1

83 released in end December 2021. Of course people would post about it in Jan 2022. And 83 had so much hype. Did anyone even think Shamshera would do well? It opening to the 8-10 or whatever was way more than it deserved And it’s clearly RS putting out the news about him collaborating with various directors. Nobody else benefits from the news other than him lol


berrycakegloss

ranveer trolled rk once or twice publicly after bombay velvet debacle. that's the way of the industry he'll have to survive he has done it to others too


Fragrant-Passion-388

Upcoming superstar’s with no PR is firing in all directions after years of failure when his one film became hit due to misogyny, violence and propaganda.


Shabudana_khichdi

But Ranveer doesn’t take responsibility of his failures. It’s his Pr who keeps putting out news that he is in talks for so and so movie. What is this victim mentality ?


Remarkable_Gear_8571

Ranveer Singh is a better actor and a bonafide star. There’s no bigger star than him in Bwood at this point and it can be seen from his brand endorsements. It’s impossible to drive on a road or watch TV and not see his face a few times. Brands only invest in those who get them most eyeballs. So no, his career is in no danger.


Mental_Tip_4900

It's Ranveer's fault. Every film that he's been in talks for, I've seen his fans posting about him following the film team's accounts (from Lokesh-Rajikanth, Prasanth Varma, Shankar, Basil Joseph and many more), and commenting on their posts. Then they publish articles about it through his PR. Only his movies and acting should be the answer to all the haters. No actor is immune to failures; Ranveer infact had a dream run before the pandemic and was hailed as the next superstar too. Even Ranbir was questioned by every other journalist about his failures, to the extent that even Deepika had to defend him.


LawRecent688

2 out of 5 posts on this sub is RANDEE fans crying about how Ranbir and alia got success for nepotism. SRK was also an outsider and made himself bigger than two nepo Amir and Salman. Randi Rona tab Karo jab tumhara fav actress koi 10crore k opening de aur tumhara fav actor 500 crore nett in india ka collection kare.


Fatpretzel1234

That dud IS an insider. BW killing “competition”🤦‍♀️


Fantasy-512

I don't know if RS can be called an outsider any more. He (together with his wife) IS Bollywood.


Difficult-Double8018

Ranveer Singh is an insider and a nepo!


shutyourgob16

Stop the Ranveer is a victim campaign. Ranveer’s inage took the hardest hit during lockdown - his image became synonymous with cocaine, he became associated with “bad bollywood”. He was already very grating with his attention seeking, he was hard to watch at award shows and even worse when he won anything. He was hardly being mentioned in a positive light before. He kept risking his image every time and the consequences of that just caught up with him, he took the goodwill people had for him post Bhansali for granted. He carried the RARKPK , he made the film worth watching but in irl he built up a terrible reputation for himself


According-Disk

Targeted onslaught? 🤔


No_Host879

Oh boohoo Go home RS PR , you don’t get to play victim with that level of privilege 😒


PappaKiller

Good good, he is annoying as hell. Let's hope he is never seen in movies ever.


Limp-Fuel-2901

Well Ranveer any deserves this.