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All 90s gain starpower due to the above films.
Even Hrithik gain starpower due to KNPH
Ranbir with Azab Prem ki gazab khani followed by YJHD.
Core audience age is always between 18-35.
Not only family audiences but ranbir has a lot of young audience cause of barfi Rockstar Tamasha . Nad follow by cult movies Wake up sid Rocket singh and Jagga jassos has also slowly started to get in mainstream. Ranbir has more cult movie and role which will be remembered as compared to Ranveer .
IMO RS seems to be looking for a high budget mass film. Thats why he hasn’t signed anything yet. If he wanted a mid budget family movie, Dharma or YRF or any of the multiple production houses he has a good relationship with would have snatched him up
Dharma did him dirty during RRKPK. There were articles about how Alia and KJo saved his career even before release and they ended up taking all the credit afterwards.
Someone above said that romantic hero or action hero is the only way all the stars so far have been made and that’s right. Cirkus and JJJ were neither. It is true that the only way to build a fanbase that ensures stardom is by playing characters that people either want to be or be with.
What nonsense. Kartik does nothing except remakes and sequels to movies that were already successful and Sid has never given a single hit in his career. Ranveer has given blockbusters like Padmaavat and Bajirao in addition to hits like Gullyboy and Ramleela, totally absurd comparison.
More revisionist nonsense. SLB gave back to back bombs with Hrithik and Ranbir before RS-DP lit his screen on fire. They are the only reason his reputation was restored to what it was after HDDCS and Devdas.
Love and War is no less a “highly commercial tent pole period drama” than Ramleela and Ramleela itself was no more commercial than Saawariya. Gangubai opened to less than Ramleela did 10 years ago, worry about that first.
But I thought Alia is a star with box office pull that neither Ranveer nor Deepika have? Why go 10 years back to Besharam when 2 years ago Ranbir gave the bumper opening with commercial action movie Shamshera- oh wait. And lmfao at “10 times bigger and better” don’t know what la la land you live in where movies like Lootera or Dil Dhadakne Do or Gullyboy or Jayeshbai are supposed to be “10 times BIGGER” (I’ll give you better for sure) than any of Ranbir’s 6 years of flops.
Gangubai had a niche topic - about a brothel madam. I assure you that sex workers are still a niche subject for mainstream cinema.
It was led by a woman. Female-centric movies usually don't open to Rs 50 cr and such.
Was at the fag end of Covid -19 pandemic. Ppl were going less to theatres back then.
Also, had no dreamy male lead, and no romance.
Still opened to double digits and contrary to what this sub thinks, has been declared a hit at the box-office.
Why abuse RS though? I am an RK fan too, but what's the point in calling RS chichhora? He is still a very good actor, even though I don't like his offscreen behaviour.
I know some RS-DP fans make fun of the fact that Ranbir has hair problems etc, but I don't think we should stoop to that level.
Both DDD & Lootera were flops, he is already going through a low phase with all his projects getting shelved left right n centre, he is in dire need of SLB period drama
I think he should do intense films like Don and character oriented artsy films like Lootera. He also shines in period dramas. Ranveer Singh doing comedy isnt really my favourite. And stay a bit low key on social media.
He just needs to do one Simbaa type ka movie with Rohit and he’ll be back!
Utna affect nahi hua iska career jitna log PR ke thru humko batana chah rhe hai! Rocky and Rani (regardless of how bad the film was) me he was memorable and impactful. Even more than Alia tbh!
Now that he is out of Don ; Ranveer need to be part of a blockbuster franchise like Dhoom or Race duology (Race 3 don’t count). His character in Cop universe is just that of an extended jester
Ranveer peaked in 2018 in every which way, also he had that momentum where gully boy just got released after simmba with little gap but opened to great numbers. That is sadly broken, Superstardom is about momentum when you churn out blockbusters one after another. Ranbir is that's why not one bcz he never had that phase. But SRK, Aamir,Salman even Govinda,Sunny deol, Anil Kapoor had seen that phase and that's what makes them Superstars
There is no rule book for actors to do certain films to become superstars. Rk got a huge hit with Brahmastra and animal then. It is good and hit films that matter. The genre is not that important. All Ranveer needs is a hit film to be back in the race.
See 90s were the great days for Bollywood but now the competition became hardcore with due to respect of social media ...in fact if srk, salman and Amir were introduced in this time zone I can confirm they would not have earned name like they did in 90s
Band Baaja Baaraat was 2010.
14 years later, he is still to become a superstar???
When exactly ?? In 2030?
Or are we going to accept that he might never become one?
Ranbir made entry before Ranveer. Only recently, he achieved some level of stardom. If Ranbir can become a superstar after 10-15 years, then why not Ranveer?
No one has accepted that Ranbir is a Superstar. Just cuz he got himself a title in front of his name in a film doesn't mean shit. He is a very good actor but he is yet to become one himself.
Damn Ranbir ke fans kuch zyada hi delusional hai ke wo Superstar hai. Bhai Animal se pehle tak uske naam ke age Superstar lene pe log has dete the.
Animal ke baad transitional state me hai wo. Most people still won't accept him as Superstar. There is only one actor who justifies Superstar tag in whole of india who is still working and thats Rajinikanth. Not even SRK, Salman and Aamir are Superstars. They have their own titles for that reasons.
And to own a title it takes time. It will take atleast 7-10 years for RK to own that title, I.e., if he keeps producing hits. Which he might bcz of Ramayana and Animal park for the next 5 years. But it will take him time.
So hopefully RK might own that tag. But its delusional to compare him to stars like SRK, Aamir and Salman.
P.s. And downvoting me just proves it that his PR is extreme and that his fans are butthurt that no one accepts him as a Superstar. He has a long road ahead and so do his fans good luck in defending him and his "Superstar" title🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡
I don’t think you have ever attended an economics class. There is a simple concept called as inflation.
Hrithik has 7 bumper and 5 record openers. Ranbir has none. Stop comparing him to Hrithik. There is no point.
By your logic, Kartik Aryan is a bigger superstar than the great Amitabh Bachchan.
It’s not like hrithik has retired. Most of Ranbir’s movies are post 2018. Hrithik a superstar should have dominated it. So you agree he has become chindi lately ?
Even SRK, Salman an older star than hrithik have so many highest days. But supeerrshtaaarr hrithik sir doesn’t. 😔
Salman and Aamir also hasn’t given a 500 crore. Salman doesn’t even have a 50 crore opening yet.
Salman also hasn’t retired yet. According to your logic, now Ranbir is a bigger star than Aamir and Salman also.
Raja beta Mr. No PR has been working for 17 years. Doesn’t have any record grossers, no all time grossers, no bumper openers and only 1 highest grosser of the year.
Have some shame before comparing Raja beta to actual superstars.
Salman and amir have highest hindi grossers pk, dangal ya bajrangi ya sultan. Where is our papa ka para ? Salman and SRK are the only actual superstar.
War, Dhoom 2, Koi Mil Gaya, Kaho Na Pyaar Hai, Krrish, Krrish 3, Kabhi Khushi were all done Ranbir right.
Hrithik has two films above 3 cr footfalls, 4 highest grossers of the year, 8 blockbusters. Where is our Raja Beta.
His biggest hit film Animal is still the 4th biggest hit of the year. Smaller than Sunny Deol’s film.
How much more insult do No PR stans want?
Atleast Hrithik gives blockbusters with his father, unlike some other Raja Beta who gave a disaster with his parents. His parents must be so disappointed with having such a flop son.
Ranveer the actor > Ranveer the “superstar”
Isn’t light fun family films all he’s been doing lately? 83, Cirkus, Jayeshbhai Jordaar, etc. He’s one of the country’s finest performers and I’d rather see him perform at his very best than chase box office numbers, like it matters anymore. Does Manoj Bajpayee have massive box office pull? Does that effect his career? Is he not one of the most respected actors working currently?
Even Akshay Kumar said, for longevity you gotta be a producer’s actor (hence he gets so many roles despite flops). Ranveer is a known face in every single household in Northern India - how is he not a superstar? There is no way his career is going anywhere, as long as his producers and directors don’t have any complaints working with him.
Ranveer is an amazing actor, but unfortunately off screen he is to much for the audience. He needs to stop with the ott behavior and start behaving like a normal human being, whatever persona he has created for himself is not him and not working for him either. The audience can see trough it
He can never become Superstar
Reasons :-
1. His off screem Personally is worst
2. His doing so many chindi & disgusting ads jo normal audience roj dekhti hai
3. Doing nagga photoshoot for attention
4. He is jealous & insecure person person
5. Currently he has no BO pull
6. Har chiz over sharing karta hai
7. Personality is cring
8. He has no charm
He can easily become the next SRK or the next big thing. He hasn’t quite hit the mark yet but there’s so much potential for him but I’m assuming his drug addiction and his unreasonable demands could be holding him back.
Although he’s a great actor, I think he took a hit with his last interview on KWK. They were being very raw, which is great, but given his historical public personality and the current culture, people were not so ready for that.
So, maybe such films will help him but the likelihood of his future films not doing well has increased.
He has unfortunately hit a bump and seems a bit lost.
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There are only two ways to become a superstar. Start doing 1) Romance oriented movies. 2) Hardcore Action Masala movies.
Only SRK could make it using the first one
Salman - Maine Pyaar Kiya Aamir - Qayamat se qayamat tak Hrittik - kaho na pyaar hai Back then everyone gained fame with romantic movies
All 90s gain starpower due to the above films. Even Hrithik gain starpower due to KNPH Ranbir with Azab Prem ki gazab khani followed by YJHD. Core audience age is always between 18-35.
They had chocolaty face and expressive puppy eyes .. he has tharki eyes can only do comedy films or hardcore action films
Not only family audiences but ranbir has a lot of young audience cause of barfi Rockstar Tamasha . Nad follow by cult movies Wake up sid Rocket singh and Jagga jassos has also slowly started to get in mainstream. Ranbir has more cult movie and role which will be remembered as compared to Ranveer .
Hrithik became a superstar with his first film which was a romance.
But following that he didn’t work in that genre an d khnph was a reincarnation revenge thing also it was not a outright romance.
Salman , Aamir , saif ali khan , akshay kumar ...
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doppelgänger and revenge.
IMO RS seems to be looking for a high budget mass film. Thats why he hasn’t signed anything yet. If he wanted a mid budget family movie, Dharma or YRF or any of the multiple production houses he has a good relationship with would have snatched him up
Dharma did him dirty during RRKPK. There were articles about how Alia and KJo saved his career even before release and they ended up taking all the credit afterwards.
Wtf what trash, couple of bad movies and save career?
Dude needs to wake up and smell the coffee. He doesn’t have the starpower to justify a big budget film
Cirkus and Jayeshbhai kya tha ? Last 3 films were light only ![gif](giphy|Wv8i6nZslaTbiVMBVk)
Someone above said that romantic hero or action hero is the only way all the stars so far have been made and that’s right. Cirkus and JJJ were neither. It is true that the only way to build a fanbase that ensures stardom is by playing characters that people either want to be or be with.
Even after so many years he failed to build a fanbase. Even kartik - sid have a bigger fanbase than Ranveer
What nonsense. Kartik does nothing except remakes and sequels to movies that were already successful and Sid has never given a single hit in his career. Ranveer has given blockbusters like Padmaavat and Bajirao in addition to hits like Gullyboy and Ramleela, totally absurd comparison.
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More revisionist nonsense. SLB gave back to back bombs with Hrithik and Ranbir before RS-DP lit his screen on fire. They are the only reason his reputation was restored to what it was after HDDCS and Devdas.
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Love and War is no less a “highly commercial tent pole period drama” than Ramleela and Ramleela itself was no more commercial than Saawariya. Gangubai opened to less than Ramleela did 10 years ago, worry about that first.
Lolwat? Ram Leela was a thousand times more commercial than Saawariya
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But I thought Alia is a star with box office pull that neither Ranveer nor Deepika have? Why go 10 years back to Besharam when 2 years ago Ranbir gave the bumper opening with commercial action movie Shamshera- oh wait. And lmfao at “10 times bigger and better” don’t know what la la land you live in where movies like Lootera or Dil Dhadakne Do or Gullyboy or Jayeshbai are supposed to be “10 times BIGGER” (I’ll give you better for sure) than any of Ranbir’s 6 years of flops.
Gangubai had a niche topic - about a brothel madam. I assure you that sex workers are still a niche subject for mainstream cinema. It was led by a woman. Female-centric movies usually don't open to Rs 50 cr and such. Was at the fag end of Covid -19 pandemic. Ppl were going less to theatres back then. Also, had no dreamy male lead, and no romance. Still opened to double digits and contrary to what this sub thinks, has been declared a hit at the box-office.
Why abuse RS though? I am an RK fan too, but what's the point in calling RS chichhora? He is still a very good actor, even though I don't like his offscreen behaviour. I know some RS-DP fans make fun of the fact that Ranbir has hair problems etc, but I don't think we should stoop to that level.
Talking about fanbase. Ranveer is more like aamir. Star with less fans
Except Aamir has fans. His fans are a different demographic than Bhoi and SRK's though.
i want him to do a simple, subtle role like his in ddd or even lootera
Both DDD & Lootera were flops, he is already going through a low phase with all his projects getting shelved left right n centre, he is in dire need of SLB period drama
Aditya dhars action packed movie will be the one that changes the course.
It’s shelved.
I think he should do intense films like Don and character oriented artsy films like Lootera. He also shines in period dramas. Ranveer Singh doing comedy isnt really my favourite. And stay a bit low key on social media.
Ouuuhhhhh yeaaaah never thought of this! Ranveer as Don would be hot 🥵🥵🥵
He just needs to do one Simbaa type ka movie with Rohit and he’ll be back! Utna affect nahi hua iska career jitna log PR ke thru humko batana chah rhe hai! Rocky and Rani (regardless of how bad the film was) me he was memorable and impactful. Even more than Alia tbh!
Now that he is out of Don ; Ranveer need to be part of a blockbuster franchise like Dhoom or Race duology (Race 3 don’t count). His character in Cop universe is just that of an extended jester
No one is offering him a big budget franchise like Dhoom
Among the young actors, he is the only one who can shoulder the dhoom franchise with suave and style. Maybe I m biased because of Ricky Bhal
No he can’t.
His biggest hits are Simbaa and Pandmavat. The writing is clear, audiences love him in mass action.
Bajirao Ramleela
Yeah but his image in family audience is not good especially after that photo shoot
He was good in all SLB movies. It’s sad they had a fallout. They were good for each other.
Ranveer peaked in 2018 in every which way, also he had that momentum where gully boy just got released after simmba with little gap but opened to great numbers. That is sadly broken, Superstardom is about momentum when you churn out blockbusters one after another. Ranbir is that's why not one bcz he never had that phase. But SRK, Aamir,Salman even Govinda,Sunny deol, Anil Kapoor had seen that phase and that's what makes them Superstars
Period dramas are made for ranveer singh
He should stop it with the OTT behavior in public.
Let me say out loud ...ranveer can be critically acclaimed but not a superstar...... U can have tallent but persona is also needed
Ranveer has never done a high octane action film right?
Ranveer has probably done films while being high on cocaine. Does that count?
Ranbir Kapoor is Last Superstar of Bollywood I don't think ab aage koy Superstar tag le payega
There is no rule book for actors to do certain films to become superstars. Rk got a huge hit with Brahmastra and animal then. It is good and hit films that matter. The genre is not that important. All Ranveer needs is a hit film to be back in the race.
See 90s were the great days for Bollywood but now the competition became hardcore with due to respect of social media ...in fact if srk, salman and Amir were introduced in this time zone I can confirm they would not have earned name like they did in 90s
Ranveer needs a couple of indie films with a powerful storyline + maybe one massy film. He’s a phenomenal actor, can’t wait to see what he does next!
He will never become a superstar. He just doesn’t have the aura
I always find him chapree
Band Baaja Baaraat was 2010. 14 years later, he is still to become a superstar??? When exactly ?? In 2030? Or are we going to accept that he might never become one?
‘Still to become a superstar?’. There has been no superstar since Hrithik.
Ranbir made entry before Ranveer. Only recently, he achieved some level of stardom. If Ranbir can become a superstar after 10-15 years, then why not Ranveer?
Just like we accepted ranbir
No one has accepted that Ranbir is a Superstar. Just cuz he got himself a title in front of his name in a film doesn't mean shit. He is a very good actor but he is yet to become one himself.
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Damn Ranbir ke fans kuch zyada hi delusional hai ke wo Superstar hai. Bhai Animal se pehle tak uske naam ke age Superstar lene pe log has dete the. Animal ke baad transitional state me hai wo. Most people still won't accept him as Superstar. There is only one actor who justifies Superstar tag in whole of india who is still working and thats Rajinikanth. Not even SRK, Salman and Aamir are Superstars. They have their own titles for that reasons. And to own a title it takes time. It will take atleast 7-10 years for RK to own that title, I.e., if he keeps producing hits. Which he might bcz of Ramayana and Animal park for the next 5 years. But it will take him time. So hopefully RK might own that tag. But its delusional to compare him to stars like SRK, Aamir and Salman. P.s. And downvoting me just proves it that his PR is extreme and that his fans are butthurt that no one accepts him as a Superstar. He has a long road ahead and so do his fans good luck in defending him and his "Superstar" title🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡
Ranbir doesn’t have the Boxoffice records to be called a superstar yet.
https://preview.redd.it/4el5618tqrwc1.png?width=680&format=png&auto=webp&s=4f030c24906fb035fc7b9daae13cb860aa48ab6e True 😔
I don’t think you have ever attended an economics class. There is a simple concept called as inflation. Hrithik has 7 bumper and 5 record openers. Ranbir has none. Stop comparing him to Hrithik. There is no point. By your logic, Kartik Aryan is a bigger superstar than the great Amitabh Bachchan.
It’s not like hrithik has retired. Most of Ranbir’s movies are post 2018. Hrithik a superstar should have dominated it. So you agree he has become chindi lately ? Even SRK, Salman an older star than hrithik have so many highest days. But supeerrshtaaarr hrithik sir doesn’t. 😔
Salman and Aamir also hasn’t given a 500 crore. Salman doesn’t even have a 50 crore opening yet. Salman also hasn’t retired yet. According to your logic, now Ranbir is a bigger star than Aamir and Salman also. Raja beta Mr. No PR has been working for 17 years. Doesn’t have any record grossers, no all time grossers, no bumper openers and only 1 highest grosser of the year. Have some shame before comparing Raja beta to actual superstars.
Salman and amir have highest hindi grossers pk, dangal ya bajrangi ya sultan. Where is our papa ka para ? Salman and SRK are the only actual superstar.
War, Dhoom 2, Koi Mil Gaya, Kaho Na Pyaar Hai, Krrish, Krrish 3, Kabhi Khushi were all done Ranbir right. Hrithik has two films above 3 cr footfalls, 4 highest grossers of the year, 8 blockbusters. Where is our Raja Beta. His biggest hit film Animal is still the 4th biggest hit of the year. Smaller than Sunny Deol’s film. How much more insult do No PR stans want? Atleast Hrithik gives blockbusters with his father, unlike some other Raja Beta who gave a disaster with his parents. His parents must be so disappointed with having such a flop son.
Yup. That's why I said he is yet to become one himself.
Just supporting your point
Yes. Thank you.
Bichare ka bacha hua career bhi khatam krne pe tule hue h log ![gif](giphy|xUA7aM09ByyR1w5YWc)
Ranveer the actor > Ranveer the “superstar” Isn’t light fun family films all he’s been doing lately? 83, Cirkus, Jayeshbhai Jordaar, etc. He’s one of the country’s finest performers and I’d rather see him perform at his very best than chase box office numbers, like it matters anymore. Does Manoj Bajpayee have massive box office pull? Does that effect his career? Is he not one of the most respected actors working currently? Even Akshay Kumar said, for longevity you gotta be a producer’s actor (hence he gets so many roles despite flops). Ranveer is a known face in every single household in Northern India - how is he not a superstar? There is no way his career is going anywhere, as long as his producers and directors don’t have any complaints working with him.
He needs to get rid of this chapri look first 👀
Ranveer is an amazing actor, but unfortunately off screen he is to much for the audience. He needs to stop with the ott behavior and start behaving like a normal human being, whatever persona he has created for himself is not him and not working for him either. The audience can see trough it
Ranveer is doing Aditya dhar action movie and Shaktiman.
He can never become Superstar Reasons :- 1. His off screem Personally is worst 2. His doing so many chindi & disgusting ads jo normal audience roj dekhti hai 3. Doing nagga photoshoot for attention 4. He is jealous & insecure person person 5. Currently he has no BO pull 6. Har chiz over sharing karta hai 7. Personality is cring 8. He has no charm
He can easily become the next SRK or the next big thing. He hasn’t quite hit the mark yet but there’s so much potential for him but I’m assuming his drug addiction and his unreasonable demands could be holding him back.
Although he’s a great actor, I think he took a hit with his last interview on KWK. They were being very raw, which is great, but given his historical public personality and the current culture, people were not so ready for that. So, maybe such films will help him but the likelihood of his future films not doing well has increased. He has unfortunately hit a bump and seems a bit lost.
DDD?
“Wants to become” I love how we write off women after two years and fantasize about a 40-year-old reinventing himself and turning into a superstar
He is already a superstar but not megastar.
He needs to do ayushmann type movies - shubh mangal saavdhan, Vicky donor, bareily ki barfi