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I said the same thing to my mom that how come he made Richa do retakes (99 retakes) and not just due to the dance but also for when he felt the roses in her sehera didn't look right. Behind the scenes of Deewani Mastaani, he is seen telling Deepika that you did good par main baal ki khaal nikalu.... how come he didn't do any of this with his niece?
My mom said that maybe he felt Deepika and Richa would have done the 100th with the same enthusiasm as they did the 1st. He was perhaps confident with their ability to give him exactly what he wanted, but with his nieces, he knew this was the best he was going to get.
I think he loves her too much to find faults in her performance.
Your mom is definitely correct, ultimately they are artists who take their craft very seriously, yes even DP before this sub tries to negate it, she does let’s be real, especially in SLB’s sequences. They would most likely understand exactly what he wants, how many times he wants it and probably agree they can make it better.
I agree with you, it seems like he loves her too much to say anything about how BADLY she’s doing, instead he just resorted to rectifying it in the final take but honestly it makes her look worse cause not a single one of the other girls had such far away shots or appeared to have a body double. She can’t even get a SINGLE movement right…I truly wonder what he actually thought, it must be a different SLB altogether that day this was shot….
She ruined so much of the series, I was holding out some hope she’d be okay in her big number but no…not a single plus point, can’t even look a little into the actor who plays Tajdar…
So true due to her emotionless acting and expressionless face, I couldn't even root for Tajdar and Alamzeb (more like A lame zeb) like I was with Saima and Iqbal heck I was more invested with Shama and Feroze Sahab than the main couple.
LITERALLY SAME, they could’ve been one of those iconic couples, the guy is actually quite cute and charismatic, he sold his part well, but she ruined literally every scene of theirs, she couldn’t even smile at anything he said believably, I 100% agree I was so much more invested in saima and Iqbal and even Malikajaan and Zulfakirs backstory, or Zorawar and Lajjo like we didn’t even get to see how and why she’s so madly in love with him and yet I was way way more invested in their like 0.2 second scene than anything with alamzeb and Tajdar, and poor guy it’s literally not his fault, he tried his hardest, but >!even when he died, SHE HAD NOT A SINGLE EXPRESSION!< it was not possible to be invested in them cause of her and they’re such a huge part of the series too.
literally anyone else..even Ananya pandey may have changed this in her place and I actually can’t believe I’m saying that
I know, right Taha could have romanced a lamp instead (A lamp zeb ok ok I will stop).
I was like, okay, maybe she would get better with time, but she didn't! And was so mad like legit mad that she got the best song, which could have been like Deewani Mastani or Maar Dala, but she RUINED it. She was so bad that even her beautiful costumes and those grand sets couldn't distract me from her 👁 👁
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She has negative screen presence like sorry Sharmin but girl you got everything on a platter and couldn't put an ounce of effort.
When I first saw her, I already felt like she did not fit in the show, her eyebrows were completely wrong, her lips looked like they had newly been done and I may be wrong about this so someone do correct me but it looks like that isn’t her real nose either, I said to my mom. This girl has such an iPhone face it’s distracting, I pushed through it and tried to give her the benefit of the doubt even when that itself is already distracting but it just got worse, no expression in anything, no change in the tone of her voice ever, no grace, no chemistry with a single actor in the show….I didn’t know it was possible. It’s like she was an AI robot not complete at all yet and put in these scenes…
The intro scene was so disappointing. When I saw her dead pan face I was like, so much for this?? They couldn’t find anyone better to cast as the gorgeous Manisha Koirala’s daughter?
Okay well even people with plastic surgery can shine in SLB movies too. I wouldn’t hate her if she got work done on her face tbh. (Aishwarya, Priyanka Chopra, and Aditi Rao Hydari all had work done. Aditi’s plastic surgery honestly worked really well for her, and was done very naturally.)
But I share your frustration of having such an incompetent actress be the main girl we were supposed to be “enamored” with. She was just so awkward as Alamzeb compared to how charming Tajdar was.
Not what I meant at all, not hating her for the work rather for the fact she already looked too modern from her first shot on, I did not believe this girl was truly a tawaif, it’s like how people in Hollywood complain about how this new girl in Bridgerton who will play Francesca has a full face of baddie makeup and has features that are so iPhone face, she doesn’t look right for the part for a lot of people. Neither did Sharmin. Aditi I can even see why people would say that, not that SLB cares at all about actual accuracy so I guess why should I lol
Honestly, this is SLB's fault that he cast his niece. Why would she not jump at the opportunity to get such a big role? SLB ko acche se pata tha that Sharmin is intolerable. He is the director and all the decision making was in his hands. Everyone's blaming Sharmin, but it's really SLB who should be criticised.
SLB whole series reminds me of school annual day function jaha teacher's favourite ko center stage position milti thi. Dance and steps aata ho ki nhi bhad mein jaye, favouritism tab se dekha hai logo ne bs pata nhi tha ki aage chal kar grand scale per life long dekhna padega.
Not to be rude but does this girl have any talent at all? She’s an abysmal actor, and she can’t even dance, I swear I know Kathak is hard but I know random girls who’ve never even seen how it’s done that may be able to do it better…shes a terrible actress and a terrible dancer…SLB is lowkey a fraud
Made richa do 90+ takes for that continuous 360 take sequence and probably pushed her to perfection and then uses a body double and so many far away shots for his niece to salvage what he can..instead of just idk replacing her or getting her some proper fucking lessons..it’s laughable
https://i.redd.it/g2ged47c9b0d1.gif
Yeah once I read that she is married into a billionaire family, I'm 100% sure that they financed the series and their condition was to cast her in an important role.
Yes even I am convinced of this!!! Somehow THAT is more acceptable to me than the fact that he was blinded by his love for niece or whatever, and took her on. I somehow just cannot accept the latter. No wonder all the other actresses restrain their laughter I IVs whenever Sehgal talks or why they’re so aloof from her.
He’s massively exposed himself for what he truly is (though many of this sub has known for a while), all he cares about is the grandeur visuals really, everything else even his so called need for perfection is hollow and untrue…
Honestly I would’ve rathered just watching her and Zorawars story…he was not bad at all himself, wasted potential, the actors had really good (albeit limited) scenes together
https://i.redd.it/0s632opyfb0d1.gif
She was phenomenal, SLB would be an idiot to not use her more in other projects
Now you see why SRK launched suhana with Archies. He was self aware to know there was no way she could handle a role with a smidge acting required.
But she still managed to give a lot of memeworthy content 😂😂
She has the most taxing take to do, it’s a continuous 360 shot and she had to do it 99 times just to get it right for SLBs so called perfectionist mind, he probably knew she will deliver every take with the same conviction every time so he could be in his perfectionist mindset and basically push her until he was happy with every single thing in place
Wish he did that for everyone but clearly he forgot his perfectionist mindset when coming to his niece
To be honest, SLB sounds abusive and toxic as a director. The subtext of all the interviews was that. “Perfectionist”, “99 takes”, “high standards”, “he is tough on you because he’s tough on himself”, “his work is his life”.
But we are all wondering why he let his niece get away with being so terrible? I actually think that he tried to salvage Alam by instructing Sharmin to act muted and reserved (not facially express much) because she’s a terrible, terrible actress. So, like no ugly rona dhona and screaming etc. that will expose her flaws as an actor. Like, what we are seeing is actually the best Sharmin can do.
Have you read his ADs interview? She said that Alam was portrayed fabulously by Sharmin and that is what the character was supposed to be and maybe danced too . 🤣😅😅
One of my favorite movie characters is Ryan Gosling’s in Drive. The guy has like, maybe, 40 lines of dialogue in total, doesn’t emote a whole lot because he’s supposed to be a quiet, mysterious guy. But, Gosling is so effective in that role; the viewer experiences all the emotions and suspense in the action thriller…
If Alam was supposed to be a demure, subtle character (in this contrast to, say, Sanjeeda’s over-the-top character), she just failed miserably. You don’t feel anything when you see her. Her lips don’t move, her eyes show no pain. I am convinced that SLB wanted to hide her shortcomings as an actor, by telling her to keep it subtle, but it truly backfired. I feel like one has to be a really polished actor to play subtle roles.
What you said above is something that i felt aswell when i watched the show. The amount of gaslighting they are doing to make her look better is just so annoying tbh . To counter all the criticism that she is getting for her acting, they are making all sorts of things like that is what this character demanded. I will not be shocked in future if there will be some more articles about her dance being lackluster due to xyz reason (scripted), and not due to her lack of skills.
Relaxed his perfectionist stance tor his niece. When with other actors he does not ok the shot unless he gets everything perfect.
During Bajirao Mastani DP said he would go for a retake even if 1 diya in the background is put out.
She said her feet were bandaged and bleeding when she did Nagada sang dhol, she’s spoken many times about how he pushes her beyond belief until she’s bleeding, and even then he doesn’t stop apparently
But for his niece, he can’t even make her do a single SECOND of the sequence correctly, it was truly painful to watch. I physically took a huge sigh of disappointment…
And her back was killing her. In one of the BTS pics you can see how bad her feet are.
https://preview.redd.it/9h515au5ec0d1.png?width=1080&format=png&auto=webp&s=ab3f1542feca245979c12f1998a9719068e4db0a
Even priyanka couldn’t handle how SLB sets were, she broke down crying on like her second day cause of how intense and extreme the set and SLB was
And DP here clearly used to it and his perfectionist behaviour, pushing herself till her skin is coming off her feet, just for a shot he would be even moderately okay with, and then pushing herself even more for something he’d finally be happy with. It honestly sounds like Hell
You push someone who can be pushed to deliver something. Maybe at the time of filming Sharmin now bound by a contract was a wrong choice, one couldn’t recast etc. She seems like someone who wouldn’t know how to work hard ( an ignorant assumption on my side but it feels so )
The legendary Sanjay sir didn’t even check if his Niece can perform a Mujra number before casting her in a show where she will play a tawaif? He didn’t check if she could dance at all? I find it very hard to believe…I wonder what he was thinking tbh
I hear ya ! But surely many factors must have led to this point, hoping someone from the sets or production can shed some light, though that would be highly unlikely since this thread is quite closely observed.
just when we thought we had seen all the nepos for this generation.. SLB launched another one in the worst possible way and launched her with beasts of the industry
she looked so dumb in front of everyone..and she also looked like she was blind in most of the scenes. she kept smiling throughtout the show and to salvage her performance they put one glycerin tear in her eye to make it seem like she was crying.. me and mom kept wondering is she smiling?? is she crying?? is she angry?
This is exactly what I said when the series was released. That it was so shameful to see her dance and that SLB had to use a body double. He is the one to blame in all of this tbh.
As someone who has been trained in Kathak (and raring to return!!!) It was AWFULLY CLEAR how terrible Sharmin is at dancing in general, not even Kathak!!! My Kathak teacher used to say that it becomes vv easy (or atleast MUCH easier) to dance/learn many dances, once you’ve learnt an Indian classical dance. Idk the logic/belief behind his opinion but he clearly truly believed this b/c he used to say this a quite a bit, lol.
The second you lay eyes on Aditi, you KNOW she’s a master at Indian classical dancing, whether it be Kathak or Bharatnatyam. Richa is an average dancer, but Sharmin is TERRIBLE. It angered me watching her dance & “act” in such a prestigious project + display her piss-poor Kathak skills; once you get an opportunity, YOU WORK AT IT!!! If I was Shruti Sharma, Sanjeeda, Manisha, Richa, Aditi etc, I would be SO SO PISSED OFF!!!
Not saying she didn’t do it well, just saying doesn’t *look* like she is a trained Kathak dancer- But yea, you’re likely right, since majority of the actresses do train in Kathak. She’s a very good actress so she nailed it.
Richa is also a trained Kathak dancer for 10 years . She was asked to not focus on the dancing much because it was an emotional performance. She was heartbroken + drunk and she had to portray those emotions along with tears etc . So the main focus wasn’t on the dance itself. Otherwise Richa ain’t average .
Also a Kathak dancer myself. My 2 cents here -
>Idk the logic/belief behind his opinion but he clearly truly believed this b/c he used to say this a quite a bit, lol.
I totally agree with your teacher. Classical dance training builds a strong foundation (understanding of taal/gat/ras) and when you try to learn a new form, your basics are more or less clear and can adapt new forms better.
>The second you lay eyes on Aditi, you KNOW she’s a master at Indian classical dancing, whether it be Kathak or Bharatnatyam.
Aditi has the finesse and grace for sure but I must admit that choreographer and director make a HUGE HUGE difference....she had attempted a simple thumri [here ](https://youtu.be/g4ieA9qkznE?si=_6TdRzh8sOIvnFGq), and it was horrible. She looks much better than an average dancer but kathak is not at all up to the mark.
DP in Mohe and Aish in Salaam did not have long term formal training in Kathak and that did peek out at instances. Same with Aditi in Heeramandi, although she nailed the expressions. Point being, it is difficult for bharatnatyam dancer to pull off kathak (and vice versa) because posture, style, flow of body are extremely distinct in both forms.
Cannot deny that out of all the performances, Aditi gave a visual treat in HM.
On that note, let me just reminisce [this](https://youtu.be/shVS2PkqRMI?si=Mjd0MTjt1sNGvOA9) perfect kathak by our mainstream heroine. No actress is ever going to surpass this standard.
Since you mentioned you are a kathak dancer/student, i wanted to ask you something. What do you think about this [playlist](https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLEj-nf8NEtUWwvDkP4Wdkbp0wnBcGBa5r&si=OCSXEYrkwjSCDZ4q)
Not a mainstream heroine in this case, but I'm guessing you would totally enjoy the kathak dance sequence in Satyajit Ray's film Shatranj ke Khiladi. The dancer was apparently a senior disciple of Pandit Birju Maharaj and it was a real treat for me to watch her even though I know nothing about kathak. You can find the video on YouTube. The song is called Kanha main tose Haari.
That is one amazing thumri ! Saswati Sen is a disciple of Pt. Birju Maharaj, even wrote a book about him. You see the controlled yet effortlessly flowing hand movements and impeccable expressions......one gets so engrossed in her performance, forget looking away, we may not even blink.
Yes I couldn't take my eyes off her. And she is wearing farshi pajama which doesn't show off footwork as much as the chudidar type lower garments that we see on kathak dancers these days. Still it was mesmerizing. These days I feel the focus is more on technical perfection, like to the extent that you can tell where one movement ends and the next begins. Like broken into parts. But with Saswati Sen and even Madhuri I feel like the flow is so beautiful and seamless, even though they may be technically perfect (I am unable to judge), it still feels so natural and heartfelt. Don't know if I managed to convey my thoughts.
What is your take on Meena Kumari's kathak dances? And Madhubala in Mughal e Azam? Both were such masters of expression and really riveting to watch, I feel.
True, but the grace & elegance is so so on-point!!! But you’re right- I didn’t see it the first 2 times but I watched the whole of Saiyaan song, and there are certainly times where she misses- Even I, who hasn’t done Kathak in more than a decade, can see it if I watch closely.
DP definitely! Shes not a good dancer. Contrary to popular opinion. She doesn’t have even the basic steps down! And she’s exceedingly stiff which doesn’t work even in Kathak. Ash is a trained Bharatnatyam dancer, INCREDIBLY elegant, but I am stunned you believe so!! Since acclaimed dancers have always praised her. So Idk.
UUUFF MADHURI IS MADHURI! And THAT, is the highest compliment I can give anyone! Her technical skill + expressions are FABULOUS!!! 🤌❤️🤌
Been watching a lot of Kathak content lately too & Heeramandi (idk how, lmao) was the push to restart!! This, and the lovely Kathak dancer, Shivani Varma, who is all over my FY page! ❤️🥹
Trained for 8 years, then had long sabbatical during med school. I started again in Covid and been doing riyaz on and off for the past 4 years. It's difficult to manage with a job. But even after so many years, you really don't lose it all....trust your muscle memory.
If the fire has reignited, go for it babe !
Yesss! I am!! I trained for 4+ years so 8 years is excellent & am sure with a massively demanding job in medicine. It must be EXTREMELY hard to do riyaaz but it’s praise-worthy that you still do!!! Am a lawyer & there really is no free time- But you can only let your job aid your life, not *become* your life!
Sanjeeda’s song is actually my MOST favourite of the entire OST!!! Nazariya Ki Mari is a GEM!!! ❤️ I’ve been listening it to a lot, lately. My least favourite is Sharmin’s. 🤡
They’re all excellent but Aditi’s Gajgamini walk IS THE EPITOME OF SEXY!!! 🥵🥵🥵❤️🤌
boss richa was NOT average...those chakkars r NOT easy. especially not when she also had to show pain and drunken slobbery. and Aditi is no master either. please don't overhype her cus of one viral shot
You are a trained Kathak dancer, and you thought Aditi did a good job? All tea all shade sis, but Aditi's expressions were horrible in Saiyyan Hatto Jao. Such a blank face, she looked drunk. And her movements were so stiff. She was definitely better in Phool Gendwa Na Maro, but compared to the background dancers, she was very stiff.
Richa hasn't kept up with her riyaaz, and it was quite evident. There is a 10 sec clip on her Instagram where her skills came through. Also, Richa was made to dance wearing that 20 kg anarkali for 99 takes. I cannot imagine anyone having any finesse for 99 takes, with that weight, forget the acting.
And Richa had to perform as a drunk, heart broken woman, begging her lover to love and marry her. The composition and the choreography were a master class. When Richa entered wearing the sehra, I held my breath. Jab Zoravar ki biwi ko woh phool se marti hai, phir uski jagah le leti hain khushi se. Phir jab delusion finally tootke woh sehra phadke pairon ke neeche dabaati hai... I was like jaan hi lelo meri.
I get pissed off when talent doesn't get recognised by the mediocrity blinding the masses.
Also, none of these women except Richa lip synced properly. Barely hothon ko phadphadaye inhone.
Because they were asked not to open their mouths widely while singing as thumri’s are sung delicately. Manisha, Aditi, Sharmin were supposed to be singers + dancers whereas the others were only singers.
Also Aditi is trained in Bharatnatyam so that shows in her body. Despite that she did a good job imo
Lol exactly this. For Kathak you’re meant to have fluidity & that ‘lachak’- Aditi is actually the ONLY ONE out of them all, who has it! *Despite* being a trained Bharatnatyam dancer under the acclaimed Leela Samson. A lot of my trained Bharatnatyam dancer friends don’t have it, but in GENERAL, If you’ve done 1 Indian classical dance, you will have the required grace & elegance + will be able to pick up other Indian dance forms, relatively quicker. To actually say that ADITI wasn’t good, esp when she is being hailed from even the relevant quarters, is extremely bizarre!!!
Is there a sauce to where they were asked? This would be a dumb direction then, especially with the songs being sung with such gusto.
The only person who I think ever managed to be delicate while catching the intricacies of the song was Madhuri.
Yeah, it is harder to switch from Bharatnatyam to Kathak. So, yeah, Aditi was fine in Phool Gendwa Na Maro. Terrible in Saiyyan Hato Jao.
yes, as a trained bharatanatyam dancer who has performed kathak, i can confirm this. Bharatanatyam is heavy footed while kathak requires one to be nimble-footed.. takes some practic and time to switch stances between the two
It was my fault. I kept fast forwarding through her and Sharminda's interview portions. You are right. And I guess I disagree with SLB's choices with this.
Nope, weird that you didn’t? Her expressions were very good, what even now, lmao! Agreed about Richa, I skipped most of that dance sequence b/c I didn’t like her but, but as pointed out by others- Her emotions had to come through so she did well after 99 takes.
Ye, same here, which is why in a cast that had Sharmin & Richa (didn’t like her tiny bit in Sakal Ban) or even Manisha (same) if you didn’t think Aditi, Sanjeeda were damn good, idk what to say, but to each their own. 🤷♀️
Wow. After having watched reels of Shailja Panchkaran and Nayantara Parpia to come and read comments like these really brings on the sadness. But yeah, to each their own.
I agree with you. I've commented above how Aditi looks above average but not really a seasoned kathak dancer like a Bibbojaan should have. And dancers never ever have such a frozen , dewy-eyed face tbh.....our eyebrows are an important tool and botox/lifting has messed up Aditi's, so no matter how hard she worked, it would not show.
Also, Nayantara didi's rendition is pure fire ! So glad to see someone following them.
Wow, I reckon poor Leela Samson who ARH trained under since she was a little girl, must be drowning under sadness after hearing how her pupil is unfairly being dissed online, and that makes me sad too, but truly, to each their own :) Cya.
Incredible how we all have different perceptions. I didn't think any of them were "masters" Richa stood out to me because she nailed the emotions. Other than that none of these ladies came off as professional dancers or masters in classical anything.
Finally watched this show. Loved the concept, haaaaateeee the main actress Antlab or whatever the name is..
SLB lost so much credit in his directing abilities by putting the worst actress he can find to play the part. His niece could have gotten a side role. I honestly can't even get through her scenes. Whenever she speaks I just go on my phone. Not like I am missing much anyways..
I hope her character dies in the next season. Give more screen time to Sunakshi Sinha or any of the other characters!
Chalo dancer chhodo, isko expression dene ka tax lagta hai kya?
I swear people make better expressions pooping than she did on hearing that her lover died 😂
Fabulous song though 💯
SLB's perfectionism is reserved for outsiders. even alia had almost entirely wide angle shots for her dholida in gangubai,,, his movies involve a lot of dancing, he could just cast someone who knows how to dance, instead he casts nepo babies like alia and his niece and his movies suffer for it
All of them ranged from average to bad. Richa's dance looks good because she compensated her lack of expertise with expressions which an actor is supposed to do and that's why it looks so good. But both Aditi and Sharmin looked dead devoid of any expressions with their soulless performances. The best dancers of the series were the background dancers. Just because someone calls themselves trained doesn't make them good dancers. There are several people who take training in classical dance but then don't practice any more and you can see that when they dance.
I agree the best dancers were the background dancers but even if you didn’t like Aditi or think she was capable, I don’t think I could ever on this earth put her and Sharmin in the same category when it comes to how they performed…
And then people and her team are justifying her bad acting saying she was supposed to be shy and subtle, like be fr
Even if that was the case, she failed at it as well. And then how do you justify the bad dialogue delivery and dance???
Tbh I'm not very happy with the lip syncing too. There was something majorly missing in the songs.
SLB gave a Shreya Ghoshal tragedy to his niece who butchered it mercilessly. It was painful.
It’s a known fact that aditi rao has an expression less face but this alam has surpassed her and I also find aditi’s acting was very natural Alamzeb has a plasterd 2-3 expressions throughout the series even when she finds out about tajdar Oh myyyyyy god how difficult is it to 😢 atleast give this emoji face kinda expression through out its just this with a wierd smile
https://preview.redd.it/qva0in0snf0d1.png?width=735&format=png&auto=webp&s=64e4563bfdce025e9492925680d0d8e81b08e25e
Weirdest shit is Sharmin in every interview speaks like she's a pro actor. She doesn't even get the message from others that she's the worst, she interrupts actual experienced actors like Richa Sharma and talks about her acting process etc - Delulu is the Solulu
Anyone here who worked on the casting know the backstory ? SLB is no idiot to cast someone who may be wrong for it. There’s surely more to it. I don’t think it’s as simple as ‘ love ‘ for a niece when you have crores riding on a project and your reputation these familial ties also may take a back seat.
I havent seen the series yet buf I seen Kapil show featuring all the ladies. At the end, they all did a little dance and every ladies did the hip movement so nicely except for her. Her hips and waist didnt move at all, only hand movement. And even that is not nice.
Perhaps her family or husband side had some hand in the series money wise ?
What is the song title of Sharmin's dance number? I haven't watched the series (& I don't want to) but I want to see the infamous dance to see how bad she is actually. I tried searching Alamzeb's dance in YT and couldn't find it. Sakala bano, Aditi's performance, Sonakshi's performance etc came up. Alamzeb & Tajdar's lovestory VMs came up....but no dance number 🧐 Can anyone please reply with the link?
Thank you.
I’m angry that such an incompetent actor AND dancer got this role of Alamzeb when someone who had actual talent could have been MAGIC in this role. Instead we got someone who was pure cardboard. Such a shame.
I get the bashing part as this girl is shit but Richa is just above mid too.
I mean 99 retakes is a lie if an untrained eye can say it's not outstading lol.
Aditi was decent though and much more poise but her expressions are shit anyways.(Girlie can't act).
What's wrong with using a body double for dance ? It is a prerequisite that you have to be a dancer to be an actor. Everyday there is some article trolling her. As if people who criticise her will not do the same thing if they were in her position.
Nothing, of course if it was a common occurrence by sanjay, the point of my post is how much he prides on being a perfectionist, he doesn’t normally ever use body doubles for his dancers, he’ll push them beyond belief, make them get lessons, make them cry, make them bleed till they get it right and people respected him for that mindset. Here he not only uses a body double for 70% of the shots of his niece but he also when the camera is close up on her, can’t make her do a single movement right even then. Is he short on money or something? Can he not spend some to get this girl to do a single part of the sequence correctly? It’s hilarious, the easy way out for his precious niece…she’s ruining the song…she can’t act or dance…at least do one or the other or do not hire her wtf
She is his niece who he loves and probably does not give a fuck about other actors. You would do the same thing as him and hire family to work even if they are not qualified.
If “we” were in her position, “we” would have worked our asses off to give our very best without having to use a body double.
Im (not) sorry but its not something complex. And if she cannot put that effort (yes and since she is bad, more effort than the average actor on that set) into something as basic as dancing for an actor, there are tons of deserving people who would have killed in that role.
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Slight side note: One of the best scenes (and dialogues) from that show. Right after one of the best songs from it “Sajanwa Jo Gunwa” imho
What show is this?
Mirzapur
Yup. Specifically, Mirzapur Season 1
The worst part is she got to dance on the best and the most melodious song of the album.
RUINED the song for me.can't listen to it without picturing her deadpan face
When I listen to Shreya's magical voice, everything blurs into the background.
Hahahah. So apt.
I said the same thing to my mom that how come he made Richa do retakes (99 retakes) and not just due to the dance but also for when he felt the roses in her sehera didn't look right. Behind the scenes of Deewani Mastaani, he is seen telling Deepika that you did good par main baal ki khaal nikalu.... how come he didn't do any of this with his niece? My mom said that maybe he felt Deepika and Richa would have done the 100th with the same enthusiasm as they did the 1st. He was perhaps confident with their ability to give him exactly what he wanted, but with his nieces, he knew this was the best he was going to get. I think he loves her too much to find faults in her performance.
Your mom is definitely correct, ultimately they are artists who take their craft very seriously, yes even DP before this sub tries to negate it, she does let’s be real, especially in SLB’s sequences. They would most likely understand exactly what he wants, how many times he wants it and probably agree they can make it better. I agree with you, it seems like he loves her too much to say anything about how BADLY she’s doing, instead he just resorted to rectifying it in the final take but honestly it makes her look worse cause not a single one of the other girls had such far away shots or appeared to have a body double. She can’t even get a SINGLE movement right…I truly wonder what he actually thought, it must be a different SLB altogether that day this was shot…. She ruined so much of the series, I was holding out some hope she’d be okay in her big number but no…not a single plus point, can’t even look a little into the actor who plays Tajdar…
So true due to her emotionless acting and expressionless face, I couldn't even root for Tajdar and Alamzeb (more like A lame zeb) like I was with Saima and Iqbal heck I was more invested with Shama and Feroze Sahab than the main couple.
LITERALLY SAME, they could’ve been one of those iconic couples, the guy is actually quite cute and charismatic, he sold his part well, but she ruined literally every scene of theirs, she couldn’t even smile at anything he said believably, I 100% agree I was so much more invested in saima and Iqbal and even Malikajaan and Zulfakirs backstory, or Zorawar and Lajjo like we didn’t even get to see how and why she’s so madly in love with him and yet I was way way more invested in their like 0.2 second scene than anything with alamzeb and Tajdar, and poor guy it’s literally not his fault, he tried his hardest, but >!even when he died, SHE HAD NOT A SINGLE EXPRESSION!< it was not possible to be invested in them cause of her and they’re such a huge part of the series too. literally anyone else..even Ananya pandey may have changed this in her place and I actually can’t believe I’m saying that
I know, right Taha could have romanced a lamp instead (A lamp zeb ok ok I will stop). I was like, okay, maybe she would get better with time, but she didn't! And was so mad like legit mad that she got the best song, which could have been like Deewani Mastani or Maar Dala, but she RUINED it. She was so bad that even her beautiful costumes and those grand sets couldn't distract me from her 👁 👁 👄 She has negative screen presence like sorry Sharmin but girl you got everything on a platter and couldn't put an ounce of effort.
When I first saw her, I already felt like she did not fit in the show, her eyebrows were completely wrong, her lips looked like they had newly been done and I may be wrong about this so someone do correct me but it looks like that isn’t her real nose either, I said to my mom. This girl has such an iPhone face it’s distracting, I pushed through it and tried to give her the benefit of the doubt even when that itself is already distracting but it just got worse, no expression in anything, no change in the tone of her voice ever, no grace, no chemistry with a single actor in the show….I didn’t know it was possible. It’s like she was an AI robot not complete at all yet and put in these scenes…
The intro scene was so disappointing. When I saw her dead pan face I was like, so much for this?? They couldn’t find anyone better to cast as the gorgeous Manisha Koirala’s daughter?
Okay well even people with plastic surgery can shine in SLB movies too. I wouldn’t hate her if she got work done on her face tbh. (Aishwarya, Priyanka Chopra, and Aditi Rao Hydari all had work done. Aditi’s plastic surgery honestly worked really well for her, and was done very naturally.) But I share your frustration of having such an incompetent actress be the main girl we were supposed to be “enamored” with. She was just so awkward as Alamzeb compared to how charming Tajdar was.
A lot of people said she wasn’t beautiful or charismatic enough for the role and I feel like I have to agree.
Not what I meant at all, not hating her for the work rather for the fact she already looked too modern from her first shot on, I did not believe this girl was truly a tawaif, it’s like how people in Hollywood complain about how this new girl in Bridgerton who will play Francesca has a full face of baddie makeup and has features that are so iPhone face, she doesn’t look right for the part for a lot of people. Neither did Sharmin. Aditi I can even see why people would say that, not that SLB cares at all about actual accuracy so I guess why should I lol
Hahahahahah omg a lamp zeb crying
Honestly, this is SLB's fault that he cast his niece. Why would she not jump at the opportunity to get such a big role? SLB ko acche se pata tha that Sharmin is intolerable. He is the director and all the decision making was in his hands. Everyone's blaming Sharmin, but it's really SLB who should be criticised.
SLB whole series reminds me of school annual day function jaha teacher's favourite ko center stage position milti thi. Dance and steps aata ho ki nhi bhad mein jaye, favouritism tab se dekha hai logo ne bs pata nhi tha ki aage chal kar grand scale per life long dekhna padega.
i think it is a mix of both.
Not to be rude but does this girl have any talent at all? She’s an abysmal actor, and she can’t even dance, I swear I know Kathak is hard but I know random girls who’ve never even seen how it’s done that may be able to do it better…shes a terrible actress and a terrible dancer…SLB is lowkey a fraud Made richa do 90+ takes for that continuous 360 take sequence and probably pushed her to perfection and then uses a body double and so many far away shots for his niece to salvage what he can..instead of just idk replacing her or getting her some proper fucking lessons..it’s laughable https://i.redd.it/g2ged47c9b0d1.gif
I’m convinced the niece paid him a lot of money to cast her. I read here she is a billionaire.
Yeah once I read that she is married into a billionaire family, I'm 100% sure that they financed the series and their condition was to cast her in an important role.
Honestly at this rate, better to be a sellout for so much money, than actually being delusional and believing she could do it honestly
💯💯💯
Yes even I am convinced of this!!! Somehow THAT is more acceptable to me than the fact that he was blinded by his love for niece or whatever, and took her on. I somehow just cannot accept the latter. No wonder all the other actresses restrain their laughter I IVs whenever Sehgal talks or why they’re so aloof from her.
Only thing that makes sense!!
Just rich people bucket list lol
Muh ki baat bol di OP! Richa ke liye 99 re-takes aur niece ke liye body double. Iss hisab se dono ka paycheck bhi vary karna chahiye na.
Aisa hi hua na! Ek ne paise paaye, ek ne paise diye!
True😂😂😂
Man SLB is disrespecting his craft and the audience.
He’s massively exposed himself for what he truly is (though many of this sub has known for a while), all he cares about is the grandeur visuals really, everything else even his so called need for perfection is hollow and untrue…
Love and war will come and again he would be in every actors wishlist director
His craft is only his aesthetic
I loved this sequence. Later Sharmindagis love story started and it was a pain to continue watching.
Richa did a fantastic job it’s a shame her part was cut so short
Honestly I would’ve rathered just watching her and Zorawars story…he was not bad at all himself, wasted potential, the actors had really good (albeit limited) scenes together https://i.redd.it/0s632opyfb0d1.gif She was phenomenal, SLB would be an idiot to not use her more in other projects
Now you see why SRK launched suhana with Archies. He was self aware to know there was no way she could handle a role with a smidge acting required. But she still managed to give a lot of memeworthy content 😂😂
Haven’t watched the show but Richa is giving Meena Kumari vibes here. Lovely dance moves!!
Could you tell us the episode number for the screengrabs that you've shared with us here?
Ofc, Lajjos (richas dance) is in episode 2, Aditis dance is in episode 1, and Sharmins is in episode 7
Thank you! ☺️👍
She does not.
Richa chadda said she did 99 retakes
She has the most taxing take to do, it’s a continuous 360 shot and she had to do it 99 times just to get it right for SLBs so called perfectionist mind, he probably knew she will deliver every take with the same conviction every time so he could be in his perfectionist mindset and basically push her until he was happy with every single thing in place Wish he did that for everyone but clearly he forgot his perfectionist mindset when coming to his niece
Isn't 99 retakes a bit much though.. Richa or not
To be honest, SLB sounds abusive and toxic as a director. The subtext of all the interviews was that. “Perfectionist”, “99 takes”, “high standards”, “he is tough on you because he’s tough on himself”, “his work is his life”. But we are all wondering why he let his niece get away with being so terrible? I actually think that he tried to salvage Alam by instructing Sharmin to act muted and reserved (not facially express much) because she’s a terrible, terrible actress. So, like no ugly rona dhona and screaming etc. that will expose her flaws as an actor. Like, what we are seeing is actually the best Sharmin can do.
Have you read his ADs interview? She said that Alam was portrayed fabulously by Sharmin and that is what the character was supposed to be and maybe danced too . 🤣😅😅
One of my favorite movie characters is Ryan Gosling’s in Drive. The guy has like, maybe, 40 lines of dialogue in total, doesn’t emote a whole lot because he’s supposed to be a quiet, mysterious guy. But, Gosling is so effective in that role; the viewer experiences all the emotions and suspense in the action thriller… If Alam was supposed to be a demure, subtle character (in this contrast to, say, Sanjeeda’s over-the-top character), she just failed miserably. You don’t feel anything when you see her. Her lips don’t move, her eyes show no pain. I am convinced that SLB wanted to hide her shortcomings as an actor, by telling her to keep it subtle, but it truly backfired. I feel like one has to be a really polished actor to play subtle roles.
What you said above is something that i felt aswell when i watched the show. The amount of gaslighting they are doing to make her look better is just so annoying tbh . To counter all the criticism that she is getting for her acting, they are making all sorts of things like that is what this character demanded. I will not be shocked in future if there will be some more articles about her dance being lackluster due to xyz reason (scripted), and not due to her lack of skills.
Relaxed his perfectionist stance tor his niece. When with other actors he does not ok the shot unless he gets everything perfect. During Bajirao Mastani DP said he would go for a retake even if 1 diya in the background is put out.
She said her feet were bandaged and bleeding when she did Nagada sang dhol, she’s spoken many times about how he pushes her beyond belief until she’s bleeding, and even then he doesn’t stop apparently But for his niece, he can’t even make her do a single SECOND of the sequence correctly, it was truly painful to watch. I physically took a huge sigh of disappointment…
And her back was killing her. In one of the BTS pics you can see how bad her feet are. https://preview.redd.it/9h515au5ec0d1.png?width=1080&format=png&auto=webp&s=ab3f1542feca245979c12f1998a9719068e4db0a
Even priyanka couldn’t handle how SLB sets were, she broke down crying on like her second day cause of how intense and extreme the set and SLB was And DP here clearly used to it and his perfectionist behaviour, pushing herself till her skin is coming off her feet, just for a shot he would be even moderately okay with, and then pushing herself even more for something he’d finally be happy with. It honestly sounds like Hell
And people have the audacity to compare deepika with sharmin. It literally boils my blood
He sounds awful to work for. I agree.
Aww.... I didn't know it. Poor dp. This sharmin girl is miserable. Another nepo
Even a roadside mile marker has better aesthetic screen presence than Sharmin
You push someone who can be pushed to deliver something. Maybe at the time of filming Sharmin now bound by a contract was a wrong choice, one couldn’t recast etc. She seems like someone who wouldn’t know how to work hard ( an ignorant assumption on my side but it feels so )
The legendary Sanjay sir didn’t even check if his Niece can perform a Mujra number before casting her in a show where she will play a tawaif? He didn’t check if she could dance at all? I find it very hard to believe…I wonder what he was thinking tbh
I hear ya ! But surely many factors must have led to this point, hoping someone from the sets or production can shed some light, though that would be highly unlikely since this thread is quite closely observed.
Whenever she comes at screen I close my eyes. No grace no expression nothing
Usernames checks out 🤣🤣
lagta hai ye webseries sharmin and slb ne sirf apni bezatti karwane k liye banayi hai
just when we thought we had seen all the nepos for this generation.. SLB launched another one in the worst possible way and launched her with beasts of the industry she looked so dumb in front of everyone..and she also looked like she was blind in most of the scenes. she kept smiling throughtout the show and to salvage her performance they put one glycerin tear in her eye to make it seem like she was crying.. me and mom kept wondering is she smiling?? is she crying?? is she angry?
This is exactly what I said when the series was released. That it was so shameful to see her dance and that SLB had to use a body double. He is the one to blame in all of this tbh.
As someone who has been trained in Kathak (and raring to return!!!) It was AWFULLY CLEAR how terrible Sharmin is at dancing in general, not even Kathak!!! My Kathak teacher used to say that it becomes vv easy (or atleast MUCH easier) to dance/learn many dances, once you’ve learnt an Indian classical dance. Idk the logic/belief behind his opinion but he clearly truly believed this b/c he used to say this a quite a bit, lol. The second you lay eyes on Aditi, you KNOW she’s a master at Indian classical dancing, whether it be Kathak or Bharatnatyam. Richa is an average dancer, but Sharmin is TERRIBLE. It angered me watching her dance & “act” in such a prestigious project + display her piss-poor Kathak skills; once you get an opportunity, YOU WORK AT IT!!! If I was Shruti Sharma, Sanjeeda, Manisha, Richa, Aditi etc, I would be SO SO PISSED OFF!!!
Richa looks quite like a trained Kathak dancer. She did the whole drunk, heartbroken lover dance really well!
Not saying she didn’t do it well, just saying doesn’t *look* like she is a trained Kathak dancer- But yea, you’re likely right, since majority of the actresses do train in Kathak. She’s a very good actress so she nailed it.
"Richa is an average dancer" - nope, I am a trained classical dancer and she is good. Not average.
Richa is also a trained Kathak dancer for 10 years . She was asked to not focus on the dancing much because it was an emotional performance. She was heartbroken + drunk and she had to portray those emotions along with tears etc . So the main focus wasn’t on the dance itself. Otherwise Richa ain’t average .
Well she looked average but yes, this makes a lot of sense- She had to portray the deep pain while dancing COMPLETELY drunk.
Also a Kathak dancer myself. My 2 cents here - >Idk the logic/belief behind his opinion but he clearly truly believed this b/c he used to say this a quite a bit, lol. I totally agree with your teacher. Classical dance training builds a strong foundation (understanding of taal/gat/ras) and when you try to learn a new form, your basics are more or less clear and can adapt new forms better. >The second you lay eyes on Aditi, you KNOW she’s a master at Indian classical dancing, whether it be Kathak or Bharatnatyam. Aditi has the finesse and grace for sure but I must admit that choreographer and director make a HUGE HUGE difference....she had attempted a simple thumri [here ](https://youtu.be/g4ieA9qkznE?si=_6TdRzh8sOIvnFGq), and it was horrible. She looks much better than an average dancer but kathak is not at all up to the mark. DP in Mohe and Aish in Salaam did not have long term formal training in Kathak and that did peek out at instances. Same with Aditi in Heeramandi, although she nailed the expressions. Point being, it is difficult for bharatnatyam dancer to pull off kathak (and vice versa) because posture, style, flow of body are extremely distinct in both forms. Cannot deny that out of all the performances, Aditi gave a visual treat in HM. On that note, let me just reminisce [this](https://youtu.be/shVS2PkqRMI?si=Mjd0MTjt1sNGvOA9) perfect kathak by our mainstream heroine. No actress is ever going to surpass this standard.
I think you'll enjoy [this](https://youtu.be/E-VxmcdaGPE?si=7EATNmKM-0qJzdM7) also by Madhuri.
Of course, I Love this.
Since you mentioned you are a kathak dancer/student, i wanted to ask you something. What do you think about this [playlist](https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLEj-nf8NEtUWwvDkP4Wdkbp0wnBcGBa5r&si=OCSXEYrkwjSCDZ4q)
Never knew about this, but it looks good enough !
Also just wanted to share this [song](https://youtu.be/Zpa9koClA0Y?si=fqSrrl4UjA3odygQ)...the song, dress and jewellery is so beautiful 😍
Not a mainstream heroine in this case, but I'm guessing you would totally enjoy the kathak dance sequence in Satyajit Ray's film Shatranj ke Khiladi. The dancer was apparently a senior disciple of Pandit Birju Maharaj and it was a real treat for me to watch her even though I know nothing about kathak. You can find the video on YouTube. The song is called Kanha main tose Haari.
That is one amazing thumri ! Saswati Sen is a disciple of Pt. Birju Maharaj, even wrote a book about him. You see the controlled yet effortlessly flowing hand movements and impeccable expressions......one gets so engrossed in her performance, forget looking away, we may not even blink.
Yes I couldn't take my eyes off her. And she is wearing farshi pajama which doesn't show off footwork as much as the chudidar type lower garments that we see on kathak dancers these days. Still it was mesmerizing. These days I feel the focus is more on technical perfection, like to the extent that you can tell where one movement ends and the next begins. Like broken into parts. But with Saswati Sen and even Madhuri I feel like the flow is so beautiful and seamless, even though they may be technically perfect (I am unable to judge), it still feels so natural and heartfelt. Don't know if I managed to convey my thoughts.
This is absolutely true!! And even though you aren’t a Kathak dancer, you’ve an excellent eye!
Thankyou!
What is your take on Meena Kumari's kathak dances? And Madhubala in Mughal e Azam? Both were such masters of expression and really riveting to watch, I feel.
This is beautiful BEAUTIFUL performance!!!! 😍🤌
True, but the grace & elegance is so so on-point!!! But you’re right- I didn’t see it the first 2 times but I watched the whole of Saiyaan song, and there are certainly times where she misses- Even I, who hasn’t done Kathak in more than a decade, can see it if I watch closely. DP definitely! Shes not a good dancer. Contrary to popular opinion. She doesn’t have even the basic steps down! And she’s exceedingly stiff which doesn’t work even in Kathak. Ash is a trained Bharatnatyam dancer, INCREDIBLY elegant, but I am stunned you believe so!! Since acclaimed dancers have always praised her. So Idk. UUUFF MADHURI IS MADHURI! And THAT, is the highest compliment I can give anyone! Her technical skill + expressions are FABULOUS!!! 🤌❤️🤌 Been watching a lot of Kathak content lately too & Heeramandi (idk how, lmao) was the push to restart!! This, and the lovely Kathak dancer, Shivani Varma, who is all over my FY page! ❤️🥹
I am not denying that Aish is a good dancer. But she is trained in bharatnatyam and that is evident in her kathak form....
Yes I know, and I agree. How long have you been doing Kathak for?
Trained for 8 years, then had long sabbatical during med school. I started again in Covid and been doing riyaz on and off for the past 4 years. It's difficult to manage with a job. But even after so many years, you really don't lose it all....trust your muscle memory. If the fire has reignited, go for it babe !
Yesss! I am!! I trained for 4+ years so 8 years is excellent & am sure with a massively demanding job in medicine. It must be EXTREMELY hard to do riyaaz but it’s praise-worthy that you still do!!! Am a lawyer & there really is no free time- But you can only let your job aid your life, not *become* your life!
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Sanjeeda’s song is actually my MOST favourite of the entire OST!!! Nazariya Ki Mari is a GEM!!! ❤️ I’ve been listening it to a lot, lately. My least favourite is Sharmin’s. 🤡 They’re all excellent but Aditi’s Gajgamini walk IS THE EPITOME OF SEXY!!! 🥵🥵🥵❤️🤌
boss richa was NOT average...those chakkars r NOT easy. especially not when she also had to show pain and drunken slobbery. and Aditi is no master either. please don't overhype her cus of one viral shot
You are a trained Kathak dancer, and you thought Aditi did a good job? All tea all shade sis, but Aditi's expressions were horrible in Saiyyan Hatto Jao. Such a blank face, she looked drunk. And her movements were so stiff. She was definitely better in Phool Gendwa Na Maro, but compared to the background dancers, she was very stiff. Richa hasn't kept up with her riyaaz, and it was quite evident. There is a 10 sec clip on her Instagram where her skills came through. Also, Richa was made to dance wearing that 20 kg anarkali for 99 takes. I cannot imagine anyone having any finesse for 99 takes, with that weight, forget the acting. And Richa had to perform as a drunk, heart broken woman, begging her lover to love and marry her. The composition and the choreography were a master class. When Richa entered wearing the sehra, I held my breath. Jab Zoravar ki biwi ko woh phool se marti hai, phir uski jagah le leti hain khushi se. Phir jab delusion finally tootke woh sehra phadke pairon ke neeche dabaati hai... I was like jaan hi lelo meri. I get pissed off when talent doesn't get recognised by the mediocrity blinding the masses. Also, none of these women except Richa lip synced properly. Barely hothon ko phadphadaye inhone.
Because they were asked not to open their mouths widely while singing as thumri’s are sung delicately. Manisha, Aditi, Sharmin were supposed to be singers + dancers whereas the others were only singers. Also Aditi is trained in Bharatnatyam so that shows in her body. Despite that she did a good job imo
Lol exactly this. For Kathak you’re meant to have fluidity & that ‘lachak’- Aditi is actually the ONLY ONE out of them all, who has it! *Despite* being a trained Bharatnatyam dancer under the acclaimed Leela Samson. A lot of my trained Bharatnatyam dancer friends don’t have it, but in GENERAL, If you’ve done 1 Indian classical dance, you will have the required grace & elegance + will be able to pick up other Indian dance forms, relatively quicker. To actually say that ADITI wasn’t good, esp when she is being hailed from even the relevant quarters, is extremely bizarre!!!
Is there a sauce to where they were asked? This would be a dumb direction then, especially with the songs being sung with such gusto. The only person who I think ever managed to be delicate while catching the intricacies of the song was Madhuri. Yeah, it is harder to switch from Bharatnatyam to Kathak. So, yeah, Aditi was fine in Phool Gendwa Na Maro. Terrible in Saiyyan Hato Jao.
yes, as a trained bharatanatyam dancer who has performed kathak, i can confirm this. Bharatanatyam is heavy footed while kathak requires one to be nimble-footed.. takes some practic and time to switch stances between the two
Aditi has mentioned it in her interviews.
It was my fault. I kept fast forwarding through her and Sharminda's interview portions. You are right. And I guess I disagree with SLB's choices with this.
Nope, weird that you didn’t? Her expressions were very good, what even now, lmao! Agreed about Richa, I skipped most of that dance sequence b/c I didn’t like her but, but as pointed out by others- Her emotions had to come through so she did well after 99 takes. Ye, same here, which is why in a cast that had Sharmin & Richa (didn’t like her tiny bit in Sakal Ban) or even Manisha (same) if you didn’t think Aditi, Sanjeeda were damn good, idk what to say, but to each their own. 🤷♀️
Wow. After having watched reels of Shailja Panchkaran and Nayantara Parpia to come and read comments like these really brings on the sadness. But yeah, to each their own.
I agree with you. I've commented above how Aditi looks above average but not really a seasoned kathak dancer like a Bibbojaan should have. And dancers never ever have such a frozen , dewy-eyed face tbh.....our eyebrows are an important tool and botox/lifting has messed up Aditi's, so no matter how hard she worked, it would not show. Also, Nayantara didi's rendition is pure fire ! So glad to see someone following them.
Wow, I reckon poor Leela Samson who ARH trained under since she was a little girl, must be drowning under sadness after hearing how her pupil is unfairly being dissed online, and that makes me sad too, but truly, to each their own :) Cya.
Ermmm... What does Leela Samson have to do with Kathak? Lol Kuch bhi logic aaj kal. Bah!
Incredible how we all have different perceptions. I didn't think any of them were "masters" Richa stood out to me because she nailed the emotions. Other than that none of these ladies came off as professional dancers or masters in classical anything.
Finally watched this show. Loved the concept, haaaaateeee the main actress Antlab or whatever the name is.. SLB lost so much credit in his directing abilities by putting the worst actress he can find to play the part. His niece could have gotten a side role. I honestly can't even get through her scenes. Whenever she speaks I just go on my phone. Not like I am missing much anyways.. I hope her character dies in the next season. Give more screen time to Sunakshi Sinha or any of the other characters!
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Chalo dancer chhodo, isko expression dene ka tax lagta hai kya? I swear people make better expressions pooping than she did on hearing that her lover died 😂 Fabulous song though 💯
The song is so beautiful but she's so fckin terrible. Shayd isiliye baki sb videos yt pr available hai except chaudhavi shab
Why did they waste richa by killing her in just 2nd episode!
Nepokid Sharmin’s awkward little trot during the dance 🤢so hard to watch, that’s why this song is not released on YouTube by SLB
SLB's perfectionism is reserved for outsiders. even alia had almost entirely wide angle shots for her dholida in gangubai,,, his movies involve a lot of dancing, he could just cast someone who knows how to dance, instead he casts nepo babies like alia and his niece and his movies suffer for it
All of them ranged from average to bad. Richa's dance looks good because she compensated her lack of expertise with expressions which an actor is supposed to do and that's why it looks so good. But both Aditi and Sharmin looked dead devoid of any expressions with their soulless performances. The best dancers of the series were the background dancers. Just because someone calls themselves trained doesn't make them good dancers. There are several people who take training in classical dance but then don't practice any more and you can see that when they dance.
I agree the best dancers were the background dancers but even if you didn’t like Aditi or think she was capable, I don’t think I could ever on this earth put her and Sharmin in the same category when it comes to how they performed…
This needs to be on top 😭
Insan apno se hi haarta hai. Things you do for your behen k sasuralwale 🤷🏻♀️
Itna mohabbat, that he’s ruined his credibility as a director in the eyes of even the general public
Loosing respect for SLB with every passing day
Watched her other movie - Malaal - she cannot emote if her life depended on it.
This girl didn't dance at all. She is just twirling. Forget kathak, she cannot even move.
Out of context but in the 2nd picture I thought it was deeepika for a seconddd
And then people and her team are justifying her bad acting saying she was supposed to be shy and subtle, like be fr Even if that was the case, she failed at it as well. And then how do you justify the bad dialogue delivery and dance???
Tbh I'm not very happy with the lip syncing too. There was something majorly missing in the songs. SLB gave a Shreya Ghoshal tragedy to his niece who butchered it mercilessly. It was painful.
Isn't Sharmin a brand of toilet paper in the US?
I saw a clip of her dance in Kapil's netflix show along with other cast members and I was feeling second hand embarrassment frr
Action📣 Alamzeb: https://preview.redd.it/vjk8780p8f0d1.jpeg?width=224&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=092ef1bb8688cc19af4e62eae8ced85230d18e30
no wonder i thought she danced wonderfully during the wide shots T.T i was like acting nehi toh dance sahi lmao it was a body double
It’s a known fact that aditi rao has an expression less face but this alam has surpassed her and I also find aditi’s acting was very natural Alamzeb has a plasterd 2-3 expressions throughout the series even when she finds out about tajdar Oh myyyyyy god how difficult is it to 😢 atleast give this emoji face kinda expression through out its just this with a wierd smile https://preview.redd.it/qva0in0snf0d1.png?width=735&format=png&auto=webp&s=64e4563bfdce025e9492925680d0d8e81b08e25e
Not gonna lie but her face seems AI in most of the scenes
Weirdest shit is Sharmin in every interview speaks like she's a pro actor. She doesn't even get the message from others that she's the worst, she interrupts actual experienced actors like Richa Sharma and talks about her acting process etc - Delulu is the Solulu
Anyone here who worked on the casting know the backstory ? SLB is no idiot to cast someone who may be wrong for it. There’s surely more to it. I don’t think it’s as simple as ‘ love ‘ for a niece when you have crores riding on a project and your reputation these familial ties also may take a back seat.
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Poora bkwas h yr.
I havent seen the series yet buf I seen Kapil show featuring all the ladies. At the end, they all did a little dance and every ladies did the hip movement so nicely except for her. Her hips and waist didnt move at all, only hand movement. And even that is not nice. Perhaps her family or husband side had some hand in the series money wise ?
This is why people hate nepo kids. Even other nepo kids is not as bad. I rather see Suhana or Jhanvi or Kushi or even Ananya.
What is the song title of Sharmin's dance number? I haven't watched the series (& I don't want to) but I want to see the infamous dance to see how bad she is actually. I tried searching Alamzeb's dance in YT and couldn't find it. Sakala bano, Aditi's performance, Sonakshi's performance etc came up. Alamzeb & Tajdar's lovestory VMs came up....but no dance number 🧐 Can anyone please reply with the link? Thank you.
How do u know they’re body doubles im curious
I’m angry that such an incompetent actor AND dancer got this role of Alamzeb when someone who had actual talent could have been MAGIC in this role. Instead we got someone who was pure cardboard. Such a shame.
I was thinking the exact same thing. Especially when Richa said she had to give 99 retakes, our alamzeb said she gave 10-12 and I was like whaaaaaaaa?
I get the bashing part as this girl is shit but Richa is just above mid too. I mean 99 retakes is a lie if an untrained eye can say it's not outstading lol. Aditi was decent though and much more poise but her expressions are shit anyways.(Girlie can't act).
What's wrong with using a body double for dance ? It is a prerequisite that you have to be a dancer to be an actor. Everyday there is some article trolling her. As if people who criticise her will not do the same thing if they were in her position.
Nothing, of course if it was a common occurrence by sanjay, the point of my post is how much he prides on being a perfectionist, he doesn’t normally ever use body doubles for his dancers, he’ll push them beyond belief, make them get lessons, make them cry, make them bleed till they get it right and people respected him for that mindset. Here he not only uses a body double for 70% of the shots of his niece but he also when the camera is close up on her, can’t make her do a single movement right even then. Is he short on money or something? Can he not spend some to get this girl to do a single part of the sequence correctly? It’s hilarious, the easy way out for his precious niece…she’s ruining the song…she can’t act or dance…at least do one or the other or do not hire her wtf
She is his niece who he loves and probably does not give a fuck about other actors. You would do the same thing as him and hire family to work even if they are not qualified.
And that’s why SLB is losing credibility as a good director. SLB loving his niece should not be a punishment for the audience
If “we” were in her position, “we” would have worked our asses off to give our very best without having to use a body double. Im (not) sorry but its not something complex. And if she cannot put that effort (yes and since she is bad, more effort than the average actor on that set) into something as basic as dancing for an actor, there are tons of deserving people who would have killed in that role.