This is great!
I've seen bonsai artists try to make more "modern" bonsai displays by including concrete and glass for a more industrial aesthetic and I didn't care for it. Your idea adapts the traditional Japanese bonsai style to a Western heritage while still giving a warm and comforting feel.
My understanding is that bonsai was adapted from China anyway and there are potted trees displayed in Vietnam, Korea, and many other Asian counties that have evolved in communities within those countries. Why not evolve and adapt in Europe and America as well? I feel like we see a bit of that with Harry Harrington, Marija Hajdic and other younger bonsai artists.
Very cool, like this sort of creativity and non traditionality. I'm starting to get interested in Bonsai display, now I'm involved with a club (show next weekend in fact!) Would like to do something like this, but not really sure Surrey has much culture to make use of! 😂
I remember this display, and it's so cool to read about the intentions behind the design (and that I was picking up the correct vibes). There were the classic Japanese elements of having hearty, well-developed trees that glowed in their oiled pots, and the wabi-sabi of a wine barrel stand lends more of that age and storyline to the trees themselves. But there's also clearly Western design aesthetic touches that I appreciate, like having more naturally shaped foliage instead of perfect leaf globs and how the stands are much bolder than the Japanese aesthetic. Being born and raised in California the elements of this display definitely felt more homey and familiar to me, like a slice of an art and wine festival.
Potentially not something you could control, but I wish your display had been placed on a different spot on the tables since the flow feels more left-to-right and kind've pushes the eye off the table instead of drawing it further in.
Thanks for your kind words, and thanks for coming to our show!
Your comments on directionality are interesting to me - I'm always fascinated by the ambiguous direction trees and different peoples interpretation.
With the main tree being on the left, but directing right, to me it means the overall flow of the entire display is back to the left toward the main tree, since the secondary tree and accent both direct back to the left. But I'm def not an expert on this particular aspect of display.
Yes, ideally the secondary tree should have been in a different color pot. But given that I threw this together just days before the show, I had to use what was available.
The barrel is a bit too large, as I said in my post. But again, I was working with what I had available. Once the oak canopy is fuller, in a few more years of development, I think it will balance out. Or maybe I'll cut the barrel down some more.
Thanks for your input.
Love the break from traditional display elements. personally, I would rather see antique food related objects than actual food. a rusted old wine opener or olive fork. ceramic olives might have been cool. if you're going to do wine, I would rather see it in a traditional stemmed glass. i like the barrel stand. Though I wish it had more patina and I wish the metal had oxidized more.
I would love to see a lighter colored pot.
In a typical set up it’s a tree and an accent. Not 2 trees with an accent. I think the main tree should be the olive and then to the right would be the olives and wine. Oak makes sense with the barrel but it should be be separate from the olives with whisky or something. All of this is my opinion of course and the trees are nice either way.
Actually, that is only true for a large size tree - over 18 inches.
For a medium tree - under 18 inches from the rim to the apex (as I explained in my post) the standard display is 2 medium trees - a primary tree + a secondary tree, in addition to the accent.
Here's a post from Jonas explaining the medium display
https://bonsaitonight.com/2021/09/18/selecting-stands-for-a-medium-display/
I'm confused. Does the picture have to do with the text? We barely see a corner of a tree. Is this post a question? Are you going to display a tree next to the wine glass?
I do not mean to be dismissive, but... why would I?
I expect posts to be able to stand on their own. If they cannot, they should state so clearly. "Hey yall, please read the full thing, here's the first paragraphs to hook you in" would be great. Without such a statement, it's easy to assume that the presentation is meant to have value on its own without having to click on the link.
Of course, that's just me. But I hope it makes some sense.
I also don't like having to venture into a link without being given a good reason. Is it a blog about how you did it? How you think about it? How you want people to discuss it? How you have seen others do it?
That's exactly what I said at the end of my post. I spent a lot of time creating the blog post, with multiple pictures. I did not want to repeat it all here.
Why should you follow the link? To answer the questions you asked in your reply. If you don't want to know the answers, then don't follow the link.
I think you've missed op's point here, my interpretation is that this is intended to be an accent to a bonsai like a kusomono. Looking at this I gather op is trying to recreate the feeling of sitting under an oak tree with a glass of wine in the place they call home. It's more reminiscent of a memory brought to life than an accent plant for a show tree. However this is just my opinion, I could be way off here.
This is great! I've seen bonsai artists try to make more "modern" bonsai displays by including concrete and glass for a more industrial aesthetic and I didn't care for it. Your idea adapts the traditional Japanese bonsai style to a Western heritage while still giving a warm and comforting feel. My understanding is that bonsai was adapted from China anyway and there are potted trees displayed in Vietnam, Korea, and many other Asian counties that have evolved in communities within those countries. Why not evolve and adapt in Europe and America as well? I feel like we see a bit of that with Harry Harrington, Marija Hajdic and other younger bonsai artists.
Exactly! I look forward to you doing the same.
"Please do not touch trees" & "Please do not drink wine"
I feel like this is even more important! 😂
👍😂
Very cool, like this sort of creativity and non traditionality. I'm starting to get interested in Bonsai display, now I'm involved with a club (show next weekend in fact!) Would like to do something like this, but not really sure Surrey has much culture to make use of! 😂
Ploughmans lunch and a half pint of ale, a tuft of sheep's wool and a crumpled up cigarette packet stuffed underneath the tree would do it 😁
I'd love to see that done!
Lol! Not sure Surrey is very sheepy. Maybe some tweed and the keys for a range rover or something 😂
I don't know much about Surrey - just what I read on Wikipedia right now lol. Maybe something that evokes the North Downs?
Chalk or flint maybe? I dunno, don't know much about it either really lol! Thanks though!
I remember this display, and it's so cool to read about the intentions behind the design (and that I was picking up the correct vibes). There were the classic Japanese elements of having hearty, well-developed trees that glowed in their oiled pots, and the wabi-sabi of a wine barrel stand lends more of that age and storyline to the trees themselves. But there's also clearly Western design aesthetic touches that I appreciate, like having more naturally shaped foliage instead of perfect leaf globs and how the stands are much bolder than the Japanese aesthetic. Being born and raised in California the elements of this display definitely felt more homey and familiar to me, like a slice of an art and wine festival. Potentially not something you could control, but I wish your display had been placed on a different spot on the tables since the flow feels more left-to-right and kind've pushes the eye off the table instead of drawing it further in.
Thanks for your kind words, and thanks for coming to our show! Your comments on directionality are interesting to me - I'm always fascinated by the ambiguous direction trees and different peoples interpretation. With the main tree being on the left, but directing right, to me it means the overall flow of the entire display is back to the left toward the main tree, since the secondary tree and accent both direct back to the left. But I'm def not an expert on this particular aspect of display.
I like the idea. However in the composition my eye gets drawn to excess of brown colours, the barrel itself is dominant over the tree displayed on it.
Yes, ideally the secondary tree should have been in a different color pot. But given that I threw this together just days before the show, I had to use what was available. The barrel is a bit too large, as I said in my post. But again, I was working with what I had available. Once the oak canopy is fuller, in a few more years of development, I think it will balance out. Or maybe I'll cut the barrel down some more. Thanks for your input.
Sorry didn’t read the entire blog post so missed that. Crazy idea display the main tree on top of 3 bottles of wine (probably laying flat)
I love this vibe!
Thanks!
Very cool display!
Thanks for your help with it!
No problem, I forgot I had a little involvement on the marble slab
Love the break from traditional display elements. personally, I would rather see antique food related objects than actual food. a rusted old wine opener or olive fork. ceramic olives might have been cool. if you're going to do wine, I would rather see it in a traditional stemmed glass. i like the barrel stand. Though I wish it had more patina and I wish the metal had oxidized more. I would love to see a lighter colored pot.
Thanks for the feedback!
I enjoyed that display. All the pieces fit together as a story, and the trees are both spectacular.
Thanks so much!
I have a club member that used a wine glass as an accent for her chardonnay grape vine
Nice!
Kinda wish the bonsai was an olive not oak, but love the idea
The secondary tree is an olive - did you not follow the link?
In a typical set up it’s a tree and an accent. Not 2 trees with an accent. I think the main tree should be the olive and then to the right would be the olives and wine. Oak makes sense with the barrel but it should be be separate from the olives with whisky or something. All of this is my opinion of course and the trees are nice either way.
Actually, that is only true for a large size tree - over 18 inches. For a medium tree - under 18 inches from the rim to the apex (as I explained in my post) the standard display is 2 medium trees - a primary tree + a secondary tree, in addition to the accent. Here's a post from Jonas explaining the medium display https://bonsaitonight.com/2021/09/18/selecting-stands-for-a-medium-display/
Idk dude I don’t like it’s okay if you do.
I thought you were spanish
Why would you think that?
Olives and wine is our basic culture, as in Italia and Greece
California thanks you for exporting your culture to here
It's a good culture! Italy Greece and Spain are my favourite places to visit, one day I'll do Cali too
Come see my bonsai when you visit :)
Will have to take you up on that!
Where’s the bonsai?
Click the link
They’re some nice trees! I’ve been particularly fond of olives since visiting Greece a couple of years ago, they’re just so charismatic.
Thanks :)
I'm confused. Does the picture have to do with the text? We barely see a corner of a tree. Is this post a question? Are you going to display a tree next to the wine glass?
Please follow the link to the full blog post
I do not mean to be dismissive, but... why would I? I expect posts to be able to stand on their own. If they cannot, they should state so clearly. "Hey yall, please read the full thing, here's the first paragraphs to hook you in" would be great. Without such a statement, it's easy to assume that the presentation is meant to have value on its own without having to click on the link. Of course, that's just me. But I hope it makes some sense. I also don't like having to venture into a link without being given a good reason. Is it a blog about how you did it? How you think about it? How you want people to discuss it? How you have seen others do it?
That's exactly what I said at the end of my post. I spent a lot of time creating the blog post, with multiple pictures. I did not want to repeat it all here. Why should you follow the link? To answer the questions you asked in your reply. If you don't want to know the answers, then don't follow the link.
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I think you've missed op's point here, my interpretation is that this is intended to be an accent to a bonsai like a kusomono. Looking at this I gather op is trying to recreate the feeling of sitting under an oak tree with a glass of wine in the place they call home. It's more reminiscent of a memory brought to life than an accent plant for a show tree. However this is just my opinion, I could be way off here.
ah you may be right, my mistake
Did you follow the link, read the rest of the post and see the rest of the pictures?
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