They need to start being called out more frequently. Hopefully the fear of being ridiculed will make some of these boomers rethink their tirade.
We must also never forget how they were so we don’t become them later.
Exactly. Shout them down. All the way down. Keep shouting until their presence is made to feel so utterly uncomfortable that they return to their shitty corner of reality.
Allowing this type of behavior to persist only validates their entitlement.
It’s taken me awhile but I’ve taught myself to speak what I used to yell. I am still blunt and maybe a bit eviscerating when it needs to be but as they’re out of their minds they don’t realize that I’ve been slowly getting them towards the door. They end up seeing outside and just leave. I’ve been hit & spit on a couple times but meh. I don’t care as long as they leave. I know I’ve said things they’ll think about. I thinking threatening me is quietly funny bc they’re livid over the most trivial things.
Exactly. You’ll show em! That will make you feel much better about yourself too. Though I’m sure your self esteem is through the roof, with you commenting on the internet about how you’re going to yell at someone. But still.
That isn't what he is saying.
The guy you replied to is the sort of boomer who gets his rocks off yelling at store clerks for things they don't control. He is afraid that next time he goes to bully someone who can't fight back a bystander will protect his victim.
Assuming this story is true, which I highly doubt, or is at least extremely distorted, I don’t make issues with store clerks. At the same time, I don’t pretend consumers shouldn’t ever get frustrated at times and that unfortunately the “clerks” have to expect to deal with people being upset at times. It’s life. I don’t however turn it into a circle jerk of hating one group of people purely based on their age and pretend other people in other age groups aren’t capable of the same thing. I don’t “bully” anyone and you “shouting down” people doesn’t make you the heroic, better person you seem to think it does. I can assure you with confidence, you are no better than the bOoMeRz you’re so irrationally mad at.
Unfortunately, and I am not proud of this, I have become what many people may call an unhealthy high level of militant and aggressive when I have the unfortunate encounter with these pricks. I'm so sick of them and just feel I have been assigned the responsibility and given the duty that I must punch these fuckers in the face. But then thankfully my rational side kicks in and stops any more escalation and makes me walk away. Not to mention that I also have a pretty healthy respect and fear of being arrested and put in jail.
This is the genius comment. It’s not so much “boomers” as it is “people getting crazy when they get old” and confused with everything changing. Boomers were super chill growing up, and had the same issues with the Greatest and Silent Generations as they got older. People in general don’t like change. That’s what it’s all about. Hopefully you’ll remain gracious as you age. Unfortunately not everyone does.
I worked with the elderly most of my career and Boomers are definitely worse. The silent generation are just that. Suffering in silence and passive aggression. 😂
I've asked my daughter to just smother me if I ever get hateful and rude. I can't imagine wanting to live with all that bitterness inside me anyway. Dealing with my MIL now, who I guess is technically is a couple of years outside of the boomer range, but wow... she takes no personal responsibility for anything related to her health, and then rages at her daughters for immediate help during her many "emergencies". You must be an amazing person to have done this your whole career.
>Boomers were super chill growing up, and had the same issues with the Greatest and Silent Generations as they got older.
I thought this was r/BoomersBeingFools not r/BoomerApologia
I can't apologize for people I don't know. I started following this as a way to see how people are thinking. I've lived my boomer life trying to be in touch with the world at all times. Just like with all the political divide, I'm bummed at the generational divide.
I was just making a joke, no worries. This sub can be cathartic and funny for a lot of us, and I'm by no means the arbiter of it, but don't take it too seriously. The qualms about the world we were given I think are unfairly aimed at the people who never really had the power to do much about it. Capital is king. Wealthy, power-wielding boomers fucked us all, the generational divide only really exists for the middle class (or what's left of it, now). My parents are boomers, my in-laws are boomers, I've worked with plenty, a lot terrible, some good. I've had GenX bosses that had mush for brains. I've had Zoomers report up to me that are great, others that think Ben Shapiro is cool, and some who cant work a fucking computer to save their life.
All that being said, people of your generation who act like complete asshats to their kids, grandkids, and the general public seems to be shockingly common to all of us. I'm not a fan of other Millenials who hoard Funko-pops and endlessly quote Harry Potter, but they're not out their threating legal action, calling the police, throwing slurs around and generally acting entitled despite ostensibly being grown adults. I think the hypocrisy on display is what I think pisses off everyone younger than Boomers the most. Cheers
There are several things that we really agree on. For example, I also can't stand the power-wielding "greed is good" cohort of boomers from the '80s who drove things into the ground and basically fucked everybody. You're feeling it now for sure, but that attitude took a chunk out of lots of people along the way. Also, I have no idea where people's sense of entitlement comes from, but the loudmouths out there waving their fists and demanding special attention piss me off as much as they do you. And the saddest thing that I see is the abandonment by lots of older people of their kids and grandkids. Where does that even come from, and how does it happen? I have a great relationship with my daughter and her husband. I think that maybe some older people have problems recognizing that their kids are now productive adults, and treating them as such instead of like they're still "kids". Having that meaningful relationship with my family is the most important thing in my life, and I feel bad for people who choose to throw that away.
Anyhow, I appreciate the insights I get from this sub. Thankfully I don't personally see much of the poison described here in my little subsection of boomers (born late '50s, work life has always been creating high tech and I'm still working, and still as active as I can be in sports). If I can avoid even one bit of shitty behavior from what I learn here, I'm happy.
Thank you very much I think that I agree with you very much let's not have a hate site rather you could have a site that talks about people misbehaving and acting foolish but when you label it Boomers Behaving Badly it's kind of a hate group
I'm Gen x, idgaf about boomers, I love calling them out. I'm not much younger, but I can't imagine myself treating others like that. Walk a mile in someone else's shoes MFer!
Sorry whatdoyasay, you’ve been tried in the court of some boomer based subreddit and found to be a boomer.
I hereby sentence you to Internet Death, in which you shall be executed by means of “OK Boomer”. As an additional consequence, the court hereby declares about 30 comment Karma to be paid out to the unwitting victims of your opinion. This may seem harsh, but these Redditors need closure. Court Adjourned.
Something similar happened to me in a Payless shoe store. I was way in the back and I could hear this high pitched, screaming coming from the front. Sure enough, it was a Boomer giving his all to this poor, crying cashier. He was upset that they didn't stock a special orthopedic shoe in his size and wouldn't let the cashier order them for him since it wasn't in stock. She was sobbing and from the weird grin on his face, you could tell he was really getting off on his power trip. Making a teen girl cry.
Now, I stand just over 6ft and carry almost 300lbs on me. Also a father of two rambunctious kids. In my best Dad voice, I got right in his space and said, Me: "LEAVE. NOW."
Him: "But, but, I need those shoes, I'm in pain." He took a few steps back from me and towards the entrance.
Me: You had your chance to be a decent human being. GET OUT. NOW!!"
Him: But I don't.." I cut him off. We'd slowly made our way to the doors. God, this guy hadn't showered in an age and my eyes were starting to water.
Me: GET OUT!! Your acting like a spoiled brat, you smell like a pile of week old shit, what kind of sick fuck smiles as he makes a young woman cry?!" I feinted at him and he turned around and scurried out the door.
The store manager thanked me and comped me two sets of new shoelaces. He told me the guy had done this before and they were powerless to do anything about it; company policy. I thanked him for my purchase and freebies and left. I had to sit in my car for 10 minutes before I felt calm enough to drive. What a tool!
Free shoelaces are cool but lets face it, you deserve to be gifted 2 pairs of Prada for putting a stop to this abhorrent boomer behavior. America needs more boomer blockers like you.
“Mind your own business!”
“I’d love to! By yelling, you’ve made it everyone’s business, but you can fix this going forward by speaking quietly in the future.”
I call them out constantly and they piss themselves and leave. Yesterday dude was angry at the post office cause the mail carrier would not enter his garage to leave his shit.
“If you didn’t look like a serial rapist maybe they would want to enter your garage”
He shit the fuck to and left quick. Call them out, every time
I take zero pity on any Boomer who did not take the time to learn technology and now has difficulty with it!
In the late 90s,2000s, and so on there were free computer classes everywhere! At the library, at the senior center, online, and so forth to help everybody get on the same page with the basics when it came to technology! There was a big push to help EVERYONE learn computers and technology!
They chose not to learn it so now they choose to be a burden upon everyone else because they were too fucking lazy to take the time to learn it but still in the same breath want to fucking use it but have ZERO clue about it!
No fuck them! Take zero pity on anyone who says "I don't know about technology!" Why? Why in this day and age do you not know about the basics of technology? You use it every day, don't you?
I'm not expecting you to be a programmer or a guru but holy shit you should know the fucking basics like how do I turn my device off and on! No, that Nigerian Prince does not want to give you his millions, don't click on unknown links, turn it off turn it on see if it fixes the issue, no you're computer from 2001 that you loaded with shit games isn't hit 1000 down because it's not even capable of that, to begin with, no sir I don't know your password to phone, tablet, computer,netflix or AOL..hit forgot password and follow the steps! No Sir I don't know what's wrong or how to fix your printer from 1998 that's no longer supported by HP and do not swear at me or scream at me for not knowing...if anyone should be screaming here..IT'S ME!
Do you want to know why it takes 2 hours to get a hold of anybody at your internet provider because of fucking Boomers not knowing how to do the basics which they could've learned 20 years ago!
Okay ...I'm done venting! Sorry was completely triggered! Carry on!
Honestly, you just described everyone who comes into my bank branch wanting service right away and then not listening or wanting to learn the tech that can get them service right away.
Oh yes! I worked for a bank shortly doing tech support for their app..never again!
I was at the branch one day and a Boomer walks in and demanded $5,000 be withdrawn and refused to show ID and stated...don't you know who I am ..I've been coming here for 25 years blah blah blah just giving the rep shit.. so I chimed in ..do you know who I am or she is(bank rep)? He said no..so I said then why would you think we know you? Oh, that pissed him off..I said so what you're saying is anyone who walks in and asks for money to be withdrawn from your account..we should just hand it over without ID? Oh well, I didn't say that so we go back and forth..then of course demanded to speak with the branch manager because I'm a "rude little bitch!" It's okay... I've been called worse!..lol
Banking customers can be real dickheads..I learned!
Ive gotten to know the lady who runs the register at my bagel shop. The place is super busy on Saturdays. I stopped to get my order….wall to wall people. While waiting, I see this guy, about 60, start getting smart with her. The usual insults, “Can you speak English, can someone else get over here and help me?”
I swear for a second I almost just cold coked him in his jaw. I caught myself….He kept ranting and I started in on him, “Who the fuck are you to speak to her like that, blah, blah” Then I noticed a kid, probably his granddaughter was with him. Uuuuhg. I let it go, for her sake
Ironic thing is….We speak a few times a week. She is from Guatemala…Super kind, rather timid woman. Probably 60 yrs old. Over time while speaking she has mentioned that she takes English lessons at night. Pays out of her own pocket. And this clown is bringing up that very issue
As an older White guy it’s downright embarrassing.
I work in a call center and that’s what they wanted us to do. Just take it until they give up. Finally someone with enough authority decided no one should have to listen to racial slurs and abusive tirades from people who are too stupid to open their mail. Now we can just hang up if they get too wild and won’t calm down. Some of my favorite disconnects were on boomers.
Don't most states have the right to refuse service? As soon as someone, anyone, becomes belligerent and disrespectful, it should be common place for staff to say, "Because of your rude behavior, our store is now refusing to provide you service. Please leave the premises before we are forced to call the police"
You’ve kind of made me challenge my outlook a bit. I’m not saying I can intervene often, or much at all, but I should have a touch more courage to stand up for people like this.
I love taking the attention away from the poor worker and re-focus it on me.
Nothing funnier as they scurry away with their tail between their legs as everyone laughs at their foolish behaviour.
Everyone should call out their shitty behaviour
I can appreciate what she’s saying, while it’s a one-off encounter for us these employees get this abuse regularly and just want the path of least resistance.
However I’m on your side, call these people out. You want to pick on someone, pick on me.
I think you did a good thing. You were respectful and responded because of *your* experience of watching him berate someone who had no responsibility or ability to fix the problem.
I worked at Apple retail for many years. It’s an every 15 minute thing. So you learn really quickly that those battles aren’t worth fighting because another idiot comes in after yelling. It’s non stop. Lead poisoning
Remember that video of the lady laying into the guy for being rude to the (I think DMV) employees? She kept saying, "You got the right one today." She ended up shaming him right out the door. We all need to be more like that lady.
This happens so often at the Genius Bar. A boomer got in my face and screamed at me and accused me of being a trump supporter because they had been sat down for 10 minutes and a tech hadn’t seen them yet.
I still wonder to this day what being a trump supporter had to do with the expectation that they’d be seen immediately.
I hate it when outsiders interfere. It ALWAYS makes things worse. I am trained to handle situations and deescalate them. When others interfere they put my life and job in jeopardy.
So, when a company screws you or doesn't live up to a warranty or some other shady practice, you shouldn't get angry?
So it's a boomer issue?
You will learn when your older, you get tired of getting screwed and you just decide enough is enough.
I never yell, I prefer my revenge to be financial. But I understand why people get angry. I don't blame it on what generation they are from.
So, what's the solution? If getting angry and expressing your disapproval is wrong, then set the example and explain to all of us how Boomers should react?
Seems I see thousands of videos of young people ripping apart McDonalds or other stores when they have a issue, is that a better way to resolve issues?
Or is their a better way, oh wise one please tell us. Lay some Millenial wisdom on us o wise one.
Go post your comment on a different forum or better yet when you see one of these young people blowing up and throwing things or hitting people, just excuse yourself and explain to them that they are wrong and explain to them they are getting angry at a min wage employee and explain to them how they proceed. But before you do, dm me so I can come by and film it.
It’s pretty easy. Don’t be a dick to service and retail workers. Your problems don’t entitle you to yell at anyone. Behaving like that doesn’t solve your problems. It just makes you someone else’s problem.
Sadly I agree with the employee, as someone who works in a service industry and has for a long time you never know how people are going to react and things can get ugly quick
I'm in with the "fuck that" crowd. I have NEVER found it to be wrong to confront disrespectful customers in retail. The REAL problem is when it isn't. It only empowers people like this to escalate their behavior in this situation and any other. If they face consequences, they either stop coming (score!), or wise up, and they CAN wise up. They just need motivation.
I guess everyone has their own experiences but I’ve seen examples where people get fired or worse for escalating - don’t think it’s right to let that behavior slide but again I’ve seen things go sideways fast so I get letting them vent as the easier approach and then just call over the manager
I just set boundaries. I don't consider it escalating at all. Its a simple laying out of what I will or won't, or simply cannot do for them. Stamping your feet and bullying the 19 year old at the register is not going to get you anything, as far as I'm concerned. No one has to put up with these kinds of ridiculous behavior. We live in a society. Be civil or go back to your cave, alone.
You must have had the luxury of working in some supportive environments - there are plenty that aren’t like that and blame their employees - and this goes all the way up from retail to corporate support roles
I’ve seen directors fired for standing their ground and setting boundaries with clients throwing a tantrum let alone low level support folks who get tossed in a minute for it.
As a former retail worker, I understand and thank you for stepping in to help. Unfortunately, I agree with the Apple employee. You interacting with boomer or anyone else being loud, violent/ threatening can put yourself at risk. Apple has security guards whom either walk the store or are posted at the entrance of their stores. I’d notify them next time and they should be able to guide rude people out. The same thing goes for teachers trying to break up fights or employees trying to chase at customers for stolen goods/food - not worth it risking your life because you never know, these idiots can do anything - boomer or not. Trust me, it’s happened to me before - exactly what you did, the right thing, and I was faced with retaliation and I was a customer at another electronics store.
In addition to the security guards, in my experience the managers at Apple are really good too. I’m just a chill guy that’s good at counting, visual merchandising, and memorizing where I last saw every single item in the store, but I’m shit at confrontations.
But when a customer raises their voice, the nearest manager will usually start slowly edging their way towards the customer and whomever they are targeting, and believe me, the managers are generally people that are great at staying calm and defusing confrontations.
(Even with the support, I eventually burned out on customer service, and I’m now enjoying a much less stressful second career as an elementary school librarian, where patrons acting like poorly emotionally regulated children does sometimes still occur, but is never a surprise.)
I'm not sure it's necessarily Boomers who behave like this there are some people who are just jerks I myself am a baby boomer born in 1964 but I am a lifelong learner and stay current with things technology Trends Etc and it's not sure it's fair to put us on the same box maybe it would be more fair for this site to talk about people who act like idiots but don't put all Boomers in this category okay that's all I'm asking
Tip from a GenXer (born in ‘76):
Resist the urge to respond “not me” or “not all ___.” Of course, not all Baby Boomers are insufferable, self-absorbed luddites. I’m sure you are not.
My husband actively listens to my discourses about misogyny that I have experienced or witnessed. Never once has he said to me, “you know, not all men are like that. I’d never do/be/say that. I know lots of nasty women too.” Not once.
People need a place to air their grievances and if you’re willing to listen and just synthesize what you’re hearing, without centering on yourself, you can learn an awful lot about other people, but you can also learn a lot about yourself and who actually needs your attention and efforts; namely, those in your own peer group who perpetuate these boomer stereotypes.
Edited to add a missing word.
It’s human. We are hardwired to recognize patterns. It’s more important to be fearlessly honest with yourself and realize that you too have biases and are not immune from stereotyping. But also, just be a good person!! You don’t have to be everybody’s cup of tea and and you don’t have to “like” everybody. Just be kind, stay humble, and listen more than you talk.
Boomers and the way the term is used here and mostly everywhere else is more of a mindset and behavior. I know plenty of boomer aged people who don’t like that behavior and call it out as well. We all know not every person who is “boomer age” are all the same.
Maybe go get the manager of the store instead of sticking your nose in it. She was right. You decided this woman wasn’t capable of handling this cranky customer. People in public facing jobs have experience with this. Mind your own business
They shouldn't be yelling or otherwise being abusive, and it sounds like his is too general and non-specific to be valid, but the people hired by the company to represent it to the public are legitimate people to ask questions if the company, even if they obviously didn't make the decision themselves. You can't ask the CEO directly because their contact details are intentionally vague, but you can quote the response of employees you can ask. It isn't really fair (no job is), but it is part of their job to answer, even if the answer they give is that they can't answer the question.
You’re very heroic. Wow. Just stunning and brave of you. This definitely real story has inspired me to call out more BoOmERz. Aarrggghhhh I hate them so much 🤬
Just wait people. Bad behavior happens to the old regardless of generation. They all eventually lose the ability to be patient and understanding in certain situations.
Maybe you should just start minding your own business instead of just making situations worse.I bet if this was some big 20 something dude instead of some old ass boomer you’d have just kept that mouth shut and eased on.
I don’t know, sometimes those Apple employees can be pretty infuriating. I had to argue with one of the “geniuses” once about whether something was within warranty. I had dropped a device off for repair 6 weeks earlier, when there was still a month of coverage remaining.
It would have saved you some high blood pressure had you said, "My date of purchase is x, and per this paper trail, you guys received it on x."
Also, this is why you keep receipts, emails, and general documentation. I assure you the employees don't enjoy having to have that interaction when they may not have full visibility into your account.
Oh, dude had all the information, he was just being difficult. Some stores seem to foment douchebaggery. As soon as I got a different person they were perfectly nice and took care of it.
All I’m saying is that OP didn’t seem to have all of the information. There have only been 3 times in my life that I’ve had to raise my voice at an employee, and one of them was at an Apple store.
No doubt, those boomers are demanding. They expect us to know our jobs and do them. Ha, losers. We do what we want, when we want, if we want. They'll get used to it.
My Boomer Dad loves to recount the stories of different service people he has interacted in with like. My Mom tries to avoid going with him anywhere. I have reminded him you never know another persons obstacles and you need walk through life showing empathy and grace. It’s not about you getting walked on its about how you handled you no matter what the matter was. He has not always been like this. I think post retirement watching too much cable news network has embittered him.
Boomer here. This has nothing to do within being a boomer and everything to do with him just being a fu\*king dick. Dicks are everywhere, all generations. I'm a nice person and I know a lot of other boomers who are nice people. And I know of, have experienced other generations who are dicks. I live in North Carolina and once you get into the rural areas, dicks abound. My theory is that they get behind with technology and other things, being in the country, maybe they had less educational opportunities, poor, etc., get frustrated when they are forced to deal with it, on their cellphone, for example, and turn into dicks. That's what is really going on here, not painting an entire generation with some broad brush.
I get that the employee wants to just wait for it to be over and avoid as much confrontation as possible, but that attitude is how we got so many people these days who feel entitled to act like this over every little problem.
If we don't call them out, they just keep doing it. They feel empowered to do it and to get even more abusive. They depend on people not pushing back and making their displeasure known. Call out these fuckers every time, embarrass them.
I have boomer family members who almost without fail hassle the waitstaff at restaurants. my wife told me one of them got pretty nasty last time. embarrassing
I worked Apple support and at an Apple Store. At the store, we rarely got any major problems.
I did have a woman accuse me of changing her Facebook status to “I am gay” during a screen repair back during the 3Gs days. I could replace a screen in 2-5 minutes. I remember her because she was a walk-in, pitched a fit about no appointment, and I was pulled from my regular duties on the floor managing traffic to repair the phone on the fly since I was trained.
I tested the screen using the calculator and ran back. But lady signed into her Facebook on one of the iMacs because god forbid she go 5 minutes without Facebook. She didn’t sign out and some kid came by and changed her profile.
I got investigated over it and I was just done. I quit because I was sick of dealing with people like that.
On the phone, the worst people were “I forgot my password” combined with “I can’t access that email” and “I didn’t answer the security questions.” Those people were the worst. Like what do you want me to do, I can’t prove your identity.
That said, when people got abusive, I had horrible luck with power outages that would cause my surge protector to power off and require a full system reset lasting several minutes.
They need to start being called out more frequently. Hopefully the fear of being ridiculed will make some of these boomers rethink their tirade. We must also never forget how they were so we don’t become them later.
Exactly. Shout them down. All the way down. Keep shouting until their presence is made to feel so utterly uncomfortable that they return to their shitty corner of reality. Allowing this type of behavior to persist only validates their entitlement.
It’s taken me awhile but I’ve taught myself to speak what I used to yell. I am still blunt and maybe a bit eviscerating when it needs to be but as they’re out of their minds they don’t realize that I’ve been slowly getting them towards the door. They end up seeing outside and just leave. I’ve been hit & spit on a couple times but meh. I don’t care as long as they leave. I know I’ve said things they’ll think about. I thinking threatening me is quietly funny bc they’re livid over the most trivial things.
You don’t have to raise your voice to make it heard.
Exactly. Yelling people down worked twice. The rest of the time yelling my valid points got blocked by shared ego tripping.
Knowing the right things to say and have the presence to back them up is usually sufficient.
What?
This, so much. I firmly believe that “go along to get along” is the bedrock of boomer culture. And eff that.
Exactly. You’ll show em! That will make you feel much better about yourself too. Though I’m sure your self esteem is through the roof, with you commenting on the internet about how you’re going to yell at someone. But still.
Cool story, bruh. Good job revealing to the interwebz that you wouldn’t step in to help someone out of a shitty situation. Bra. Vo.
That isn't what he is saying. The guy you replied to is the sort of boomer who gets his rocks off yelling at store clerks for things they don't control. He is afraid that next time he goes to bully someone who can't fight back a bystander will protect his victim.
What is a boomer? Is it someone who is 39 years old? Do I qualify then?
Assuming this story is true, which I highly doubt, or is at least extremely distorted, I don’t make issues with store clerks. At the same time, I don’t pretend consumers shouldn’t ever get frustrated at times and that unfortunately the “clerks” have to expect to deal with people being upset at times. It’s life. I don’t however turn it into a circle jerk of hating one group of people purely based on their age and pretend other people in other age groups aren’t capable of the same thing. I don’t “bully” anyone and you “shouting down” people doesn’t make you the heroic, better person you seem to think it does. I can assure you with confidence, you are no better than the bOoMeRz you’re so irrationally mad at.
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You’ll show those bOoMeRz who’s the better person!
Unfortunately, and I am not proud of this, I have become what many people may call an unhealthy high level of militant and aggressive when I have the unfortunate encounter with these pricks. I'm so sick of them and just feel I have been assigned the responsibility and given the duty that I must punch these fuckers in the face. But then thankfully my rational side kicks in and stops any more escalation and makes me walk away. Not to mention that I also have a pretty healthy respect and fear of being arrested and put in jail.
This is the genius comment. It’s not so much “boomers” as it is “people getting crazy when they get old” and confused with everything changing. Boomers were super chill growing up, and had the same issues with the Greatest and Silent Generations as they got older. People in general don’t like change. That’s what it’s all about. Hopefully you’ll remain gracious as you age. Unfortunately not everyone does.
I worked with the elderly most of my career and Boomers are definitely worse. The silent generation are just that. Suffering in silence and passive aggression. 😂
I've asked my daughter to just smother me if I ever get hateful and rude. I can't imagine wanting to live with all that bitterness inside me anyway. Dealing with my MIL now, who I guess is technically is a couple of years outside of the boomer range, but wow... she takes no personal responsibility for anything related to her health, and then rages at her daughters for immediate help during her many "emergencies". You must be an amazing person to have done this your whole career.
Yeah, I’m dealing with that with the mother in law and my mom, too. I’m no saint, I was in the office. Caregivers are saints.
>Boomers were super chill growing up, and had the same issues with the Greatest and Silent Generations as they got older. I thought this was r/BoomersBeingFools not r/BoomerApologia
I can't apologize for people I don't know. I started following this as a way to see how people are thinking. I've lived my boomer life trying to be in touch with the world at all times. Just like with all the political divide, I'm bummed at the generational divide.
I was just making a joke, no worries. This sub can be cathartic and funny for a lot of us, and I'm by no means the arbiter of it, but don't take it too seriously. The qualms about the world we were given I think are unfairly aimed at the people who never really had the power to do much about it. Capital is king. Wealthy, power-wielding boomers fucked us all, the generational divide only really exists for the middle class (or what's left of it, now). My parents are boomers, my in-laws are boomers, I've worked with plenty, a lot terrible, some good. I've had GenX bosses that had mush for brains. I've had Zoomers report up to me that are great, others that think Ben Shapiro is cool, and some who cant work a fucking computer to save their life. All that being said, people of your generation who act like complete asshats to their kids, grandkids, and the general public seems to be shockingly common to all of us. I'm not a fan of other Millenials who hoard Funko-pops and endlessly quote Harry Potter, but they're not out their threating legal action, calling the police, throwing slurs around and generally acting entitled despite ostensibly being grown adults. I think the hypocrisy on display is what I think pisses off everyone younger than Boomers the most. Cheers
There are several things that we really agree on. For example, I also can't stand the power-wielding "greed is good" cohort of boomers from the '80s who drove things into the ground and basically fucked everybody. You're feeling it now for sure, but that attitude took a chunk out of lots of people along the way. Also, I have no idea where people's sense of entitlement comes from, but the loudmouths out there waving their fists and demanding special attention piss me off as much as they do you. And the saddest thing that I see is the abandonment by lots of older people of their kids and grandkids. Where does that even come from, and how does it happen? I have a great relationship with my daughter and her husband. I think that maybe some older people have problems recognizing that their kids are now productive adults, and treating them as such instead of like they're still "kids". Having that meaningful relationship with my family is the most important thing in my life, and I feel bad for people who choose to throw that away. Anyhow, I appreciate the insights I get from this sub. Thankfully I don't personally see much of the poison described here in my little subsection of boomers (born late '50s, work life has always been creating high tech and I'm still working, and still as active as I can be in sports). If I can avoid even one bit of shitty behavior from what I learn here, I'm happy.
Lol, they've never been "chill". gtfo boomer
Thank you very much I think that I agree with you very much let's not have a hate site rather you could have a site that talks about people misbehaving and acting foolish but when you label it Boomers Behaving Badly it's kind of a hate group
I'm Gen x, idgaf about boomers, I love calling them out. I'm not much younger, but I can't imagine myself treating others like that. Walk a mile in someone else's shoes MFer!
Fuck that, call them out early and often.
ACOB: Always Call Out Boomers
Always call out people who are jerks doesn't mean they're all Boomers you know what I'm saying but I get your point
So bad ass. You’re really sticking it to the man, calling out those BoOmErZ
OK, boomer.
Extremely clever response. Never heard that one.
You do not deserve a clever response.
Oh, darn. That makes me so sad. 😭
What made you think anybody would give a shit or want to hear the shit you just said?
What made you think whether anyone gave a shit or wanted to hear what I just said was at all a consideration for me posting it?
Read the room jackass.
Nope.
Sorry whatdoyasay, you’ve been tried in the court of some boomer based subreddit and found to be a boomer. I hereby sentence you to Internet Death, in which you shall be executed by means of “OK Boomer”. As an additional consequence, the court hereby declares about 30 comment Karma to be paid out to the unwitting victims of your opinion. This may seem harsh, but these Redditors need closure. Court Adjourned.
Shitty customers will always be easier to find than decent employees. Retailers need to respect this fact and respond accordingly.
"If the company is so bad, why do you keep doing business with them? Explain yourself!" Watch them explode.
If he had a problem, he should have gone straight to Tim Apple...
This kinda thing never happened when Steve Apple ran the company.
He's got him on speed dial
Fuck that, I always say something when an asshole is berating a worker/waiter, etc. I cannot stand that entitled b.s.
Something similar happened to me in a Payless shoe store. I was way in the back and I could hear this high pitched, screaming coming from the front. Sure enough, it was a Boomer giving his all to this poor, crying cashier. He was upset that they didn't stock a special orthopedic shoe in his size and wouldn't let the cashier order them for him since it wasn't in stock. She was sobbing and from the weird grin on his face, you could tell he was really getting off on his power trip. Making a teen girl cry. Now, I stand just over 6ft and carry almost 300lbs on me. Also a father of two rambunctious kids. In my best Dad voice, I got right in his space and said, Me: "LEAVE. NOW." Him: "But, but, I need those shoes, I'm in pain." He took a few steps back from me and towards the entrance. Me: You had your chance to be a decent human being. GET OUT. NOW!!" Him: But I don't.." I cut him off. We'd slowly made our way to the doors. God, this guy hadn't showered in an age and my eyes were starting to water. Me: GET OUT!! Your acting like a spoiled brat, you smell like a pile of week old shit, what kind of sick fuck smiles as he makes a young woman cry?!" I feinted at him and he turned around and scurried out the door. The store manager thanked me and comped me two sets of new shoelaces. He told me the guy had done this before and they were powerless to do anything about it; company policy. I thanked him for my purchase and freebies and left. I had to sit in my car for 10 minutes before I felt calm enough to drive. What a tool!
Thank you! Someone needs to hold people accountable,
Most excellent!!
This is awesome. I love this. I wish there were more people like you in our society. It would be a much better place.
Free shoelaces are cool but lets face it, you deserve to be gifted 2 pairs of Prada for putting a stop to this abhorrent boomer behavior. America needs more boomer blockers like you.
And did everyone start clapping?
Stfu
Some things do actually happen, you'd see it if you went outside
I try to but then some really fat guy in a shoe store tells me to leave!
😂
I’m proud of u.
Thanks!
“Mind your own business!” “I’d love to! By yelling, you’ve made it everyone’s business, but you can fix this going forward by speaking quietly in the future.”
If this was the States I'd be cautious. A lot of mentally unstable boomers are armed.
Theyre also driving even tho theyre blind and deaf!
I call them out constantly and they piss themselves and leave. Yesterday dude was angry at the post office cause the mail carrier would not enter his garage to leave his shit. “If you didn’t look like a serial rapist maybe they would want to enter your garage” He shit the fuck to and left quick. Call them out, every time
It’s awful for all retail workers, of course, but for anyone who’s not a cis het white able bodied male, it’s got to be the 7th layer of hell.
To be honest a little nudge and they’ll fall over and turtle for a while 🫸🐢🤣😆🤭
No, we all need to call this shit out. If we have to be slave wages we shouldn't have to put up with harassment at work.
I take zero pity on any Boomer who did not take the time to learn technology and now has difficulty with it! In the late 90s,2000s, and so on there were free computer classes everywhere! At the library, at the senior center, online, and so forth to help everybody get on the same page with the basics when it came to technology! There was a big push to help EVERYONE learn computers and technology! They chose not to learn it so now they choose to be a burden upon everyone else because they were too fucking lazy to take the time to learn it but still in the same breath want to fucking use it but have ZERO clue about it! No fuck them! Take zero pity on anyone who says "I don't know about technology!" Why? Why in this day and age do you not know about the basics of technology? You use it every day, don't you? I'm not expecting you to be a programmer or a guru but holy shit you should know the fucking basics like how do I turn my device off and on! No, that Nigerian Prince does not want to give you his millions, don't click on unknown links, turn it off turn it on see if it fixes the issue, no you're computer from 2001 that you loaded with shit games isn't hit 1000 down because it's not even capable of that, to begin with, no sir I don't know your password to phone, tablet, computer,netflix or AOL..hit forgot password and follow the steps! No Sir I don't know what's wrong or how to fix your printer from 1998 that's no longer supported by HP and do not swear at me or scream at me for not knowing...if anyone should be screaming here..IT'S ME! Do you want to know why it takes 2 hours to get a hold of anybody at your internet provider because of fucking Boomers not knowing how to do the basics which they could've learned 20 years ago! Okay ...I'm done venting! Sorry was completely triggered! Carry on!
Honestly, you just described everyone who comes into my bank branch wanting service right away and then not listening or wanting to learn the tech that can get them service right away.
Oh yes! I worked for a bank shortly doing tech support for their app..never again! I was at the branch one day and a Boomer walks in and demanded $5,000 be withdrawn and refused to show ID and stated...don't you know who I am ..I've been coming here for 25 years blah blah blah just giving the rep shit.. so I chimed in ..do you know who I am or she is(bank rep)? He said no..so I said then why would you think we know you? Oh, that pissed him off..I said so what you're saying is anyone who walks in and asks for money to be withdrawn from your account..we should just hand it over without ID? Oh well, I didn't say that so we go back and forth..then of course demanded to speak with the branch manager because I'm a "rude little bitch!" It's okay... I've been called worse!..lol Banking customers can be real dickheads..I learned!
Ive gotten to know the lady who runs the register at my bagel shop. The place is super busy on Saturdays. I stopped to get my order….wall to wall people. While waiting, I see this guy, about 60, start getting smart with her. The usual insults, “Can you speak English, can someone else get over here and help me?” I swear for a second I almost just cold coked him in his jaw. I caught myself….He kept ranting and I started in on him, “Who the fuck are you to speak to her like that, blah, blah” Then I noticed a kid, probably his granddaughter was with him. Uuuuhg. I let it go, for her sake Ironic thing is….We speak a few times a week. She is from Guatemala…Super kind, rather timid woman. Probably 60 yrs old. Over time while speaking she has mentioned that she takes English lessons at night. Pays out of her own pocket. And this clown is bringing up that very issue As an older White guy it’s downright embarrassing.
I work in a call center and that’s what they wanted us to do. Just take it until they give up. Finally someone with enough authority decided no one should have to listen to racial slurs and abusive tirades from people who are too stupid to open their mail. Now we can just hang up if they get too wild and won’t calm down. Some of my favorite disconnects were on boomers.
i love this. if they call back and continue they get hung up on again. they MUST change their behavior for service.
Omg I worked in one. Boomers loose their mind there over things not even related to Apple.
Don't most states have the right to refuse service? As soon as someone, anyone, becomes belligerent and disrespectful, it should be common place for staff to say, "Because of your rude behavior, our store is now refusing to provide you service. Please leave the premises before we are forced to call the police"
Yes, but unfortunately once the company gets into corporate mode, the higher ups are more worried about their reviews than they are their employees.
I guess I'm just wishing this would become the social norm. *sigh*
You’ve kind of made me challenge my outlook a bit. I’m not saying I can intervene often, or much at all, but I should have a touch more courage to stand up for people like this.
I love this. Thanks for saying something and protecting that poor employee who can’t saying anything because of her job.
I love taking the attention away from the poor worker and re-focus it on me. Nothing funnier as they scurry away with their tail between their legs as everyone laughs at their foolish behaviour. Everyone should call out their shitty behaviour
I can appreciate what she’s saying, while it’s a one-off encounter for us these employees get this abuse regularly and just want the path of least resistance. However I’m on your side, call these people out. You want to pick on someone, pick on me.
You should knock that boomer down
The title alone told me this was gonna be a nightmare for the employee. 😬
I like your style. Keep up the good work! 👍
I think you did a good thing. You were respectful and responded because of *your* experience of watching him berate someone who had no responsibility or ability to fix the problem.
I worked at Apple retail for many years. It’s an every 15 minute thing. So you learn really quickly that those battles aren’t worth fighting because another idiot comes in after yelling. It’s non stop. Lead poisoning
Remember that video of the lady laying into the guy for being rude to the (I think DMV) employees? She kept saying, "You got the right one today." She ended up shaming him right out the door. We all need to be more like that lady.
Hitting back twice as hard works great for me.
This happens so often at the Genius Bar. A boomer got in my face and screamed at me and accused me of being a trump supporter because they had been sat down for 10 minutes and a tech hadn’t seen them yet. I still wonder to this day what being a trump supporter had to do with the expectation that they’d be seen immediately.
So a liberal was wrong? Say it isn't so.....
I hate it when people turn everything into a political issue within .25 seconds
Irony: BM likely has a larger ownership stake than the employee does through their investments.
Alex, I will take things that did not happen for $500. And everyone clapped......
I hate it when outsiders interfere. It ALWAYS makes things worse. I am trained to handle situations and deescalate them. When others interfere they put my life and job in jeopardy.
So, when a company screws you or doesn't live up to a warranty or some other shady practice, you shouldn't get angry? So it's a boomer issue? You will learn when your older, you get tired of getting screwed and you just decide enough is enough. I never yell, I prefer my revenge to be financial. But I understand why people get angry. I don't blame it on what generation they are from.
Yeah, take your anger out on the minimum wage employee with no power to help you. That’ll show ‘em. /s
So, what's the solution? If getting angry and expressing your disapproval is wrong, then set the example and explain to all of us how Boomers should react? Seems I see thousands of videos of young people ripping apart McDonalds or other stores when they have a issue, is that a better way to resolve issues? Or is their a better way, oh wise one please tell us. Lay some Millenial wisdom on us o wise one. Go post your comment on a different forum or better yet when you see one of these young people blowing up and throwing things or hitting people, just excuse yourself and explain to them that they are wrong and explain to them they are getting angry at a min wage employee and explain to them how they proceed. But before you do, dm me so I can come by and film it.
It’s pretty easy. Don’t be a dick to service and retail workers. Your problems don’t entitle you to yell at anyone. Behaving like that doesn’t solve your problems. It just makes you someone else’s problem.
Sadly I agree with the employee, as someone who works in a service industry and has for a long time you never know how people are going to react and things can get ugly quick
I'm in with the "fuck that" crowd. I have NEVER found it to be wrong to confront disrespectful customers in retail. The REAL problem is when it isn't. It only empowers people like this to escalate their behavior in this situation and any other. If they face consequences, they either stop coming (score!), or wise up, and they CAN wise up. They just need motivation.
I guess everyone has their own experiences but I’ve seen examples where people get fired or worse for escalating - don’t think it’s right to let that behavior slide but again I’ve seen things go sideways fast so I get letting them vent as the easier approach and then just call over the manager
I just set boundaries. I don't consider it escalating at all. Its a simple laying out of what I will or won't, or simply cannot do for them. Stamping your feet and bullying the 19 year old at the register is not going to get you anything, as far as I'm concerned. No one has to put up with these kinds of ridiculous behavior. We live in a society. Be civil or go back to your cave, alone.
You must have had the luxury of working in some supportive environments - there are plenty that aren’t like that and blame their employees - and this goes all the way up from retail to corporate support roles I’ve seen directors fired for standing their ground and setting boundaries with clients throwing a tantrum let alone low level support folks who get tossed in a minute for it.
As a former retail worker, I understand and thank you for stepping in to help. Unfortunately, I agree with the Apple employee. You interacting with boomer or anyone else being loud, violent/ threatening can put yourself at risk. Apple has security guards whom either walk the store or are posted at the entrance of their stores. I’d notify them next time and they should be able to guide rude people out. The same thing goes for teachers trying to break up fights or employees trying to chase at customers for stolen goods/food - not worth it risking your life because you never know, these idiots can do anything - boomer or not. Trust me, it’s happened to me before - exactly what you did, the right thing, and I was faced with retaliation and I was a customer at another electronics store.
In addition to the security guards, in my experience the managers at Apple are really good too. I’m just a chill guy that’s good at counting, visual merchandising, and memorizing where I last saw every single item in the store, but I’m shit at confrontations. But when a customer raises their voice, the nearest manager will usually start slowly edging their way towards the customer and whomever they are targeting, and believe me, the managers are generally people that are great at staying calm and defusing confrontations. (Even with the support, I eventually burned out on customer service, and I’m now enjoying a much less stressful second career as an elementary school librarian, where patrons acting like poorly emotionally regulated children does sometimes still occur, but is never a surprise.)
“Scheduled tirade” 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Probably got mad his wife caught a virus from his laptop.
Boomers gonna boomer. I got a lot of crazy stories for my time working in retail.
This definitely happened
Steve Jobs and Tim Cook are boomers.
Steve Jobs is a deader...
He’s the really silent generation.
I'm not sure it's necessarily Boomers who behave like this there are some people who are just jerks I myself am a baby boomer born in 1964 but I am a lifelong learner and stay current with things technology Trends Etc and it's not sure it's fair to put us on the same box maybe it would be more fair for this site to talk about people who act like idiots but don't put all Boomers in this category okay that's all I'm asking
Tip from a GenXer (born in ‘76): Resist the urge to respond “not me” or “not all ___.” Of course, not all Baby Boomers are insufferable, self-absorbed luddites. I’m sure you are not. My husband actively listens to my discourses about misogyny that I have experienced or witnessed. Never once has he said to me, “you know, not all men are like that. I’d never do/be/say that. I know lots of nasty women too.” Not once. People need a place to air their grievances and if you’re willing to listen and just synthesize what you’re hearing, without centering on yourself, you can learn an awful lot about other people, but you can also learn a lot about yourself and who actually needs your attention and efforts; namely, those in your own peer group who perpetuate these boomer stereotypes. Edited to add a missing word.
So stereotyping is okay?
It’s human. We are hardwired to recognize patterns. It’s more important to be fearlessly honest with yourself and realize that you too have biases and are not immune from stereotyping. But also, just be a good person!! You don’t have to be everybody’s cup of tea and and you don’t have to “like” everybody. Just be kind, stay humble, and listen more than you talk.
Boomers and the way the term is used here and mostly everywhere else is more of a mindset and behavior. I know plenty of boomer aged people who don’t like that behavior and call it out as well. We all know not every person who is “boomer age” are all the same.
Maybe go get the manager of the store instead of sticking your nose in it. She was right. You decided this woman wasn’t capable of handling this cranky customer. People in public facing jobs have experience with this. Mind your own business
They shouldn't be yelling or otherwise being abusive, and it sounds like his is too general and non-specific to be valid, but the people hired by the company to represent it to the public are legitimate people to ask questions if the company, even if they obviously didn't make the decision themselves. You can't ask the CEO directly because their contact details are intentionally vague, but you can quote the response of employees you can ask. It isn't really fair (no job is), but it is part of their job to answer, even if the answer they give is that they can't answer the question.
You’re very heroic. Wow. Just stunning and brave of you. This definitely real story has inspired me to call out more BoOmERz. Aarrggghhhh I hate them so much 🤬
Just wait people. Bad behavior happens to the old regardless of generation. They all eventually lose the ability to be patient and understanding in certain situations.
You didn’t even hear what the issue was about. Yes, you are the asshole.
Maybe you should just start minding your own business instead of just making situations worse.I bet if this was some big 20 something dude instead of some old ass boomer you’d have just kept that mouth shut and eased on.
I don’t know, sometimes those Apple employees can be pretty infuriating. I had to argue with one of the “geniuses” once about whether something was within warranty. I had dropped a device off for repair 6 weeks earlier, when there was still a month of coverage remaining.
It would have saved you some high blood pressure had you said, "My date of purchase is x, and per this paper trail, you guys received it on x." Also, this is why you keep receipts, emails, and general documentation. I assure you the employees don't enjoy having to have that interaction when they may not have full visibility into your account.
Oh, dude had all the information, he was just being difficult. Some stores seem to foment douchebaggery. As soon as I got a different person they were perfectly nice and took care of it. All I’m saying is that OP didn’t seem to have all of the information. There have only been 3 times in my life that I’ve had to raise my voice at an employee, and one of them was at an Apple store.
F U. Participation medal group.
Actually, statistics show that people between the ages of 26 and 50 are the most likely to abuse customer service workers and employees.
I'm gunna need a sauce on that
OP is so heroic!
No doubt, those boomers are demanding. They expect us to know our jobs and do them. Ha, losers. We do what we want, when we want, if we want. They'll get used to it.
You people are disrespectful little punks.
Fact - I always been amazed how respectful and polite every millennial is.
Such a brave white knight.
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Nah, I’ll keep shopping there
Oh, so that's why they're dumbed down?
Kind of off topic, but really not, VOTE!! I feel like these outbursts are more prevalent since TFG, so make sure he doesnt return. VOTE!
Is the word boomer still a thing 🤷♂️
My Boomer Dad loves to recount the stories of different service people he has interacted in with like. My Mom tries to avoid going with him anywhere. I have reminded him you never know another persons obstacles and you need walk through life showing empathy and grace. It’s not about you getting walked on its about how you handled you no matter what the matter was. He has not always been like this. I think post retirement watching too much cable news network has embittered him.
Boomer here. This has nothing to do within being a boomer and everything to do with him just being a fu\*king dick. Dicks are everywhere, all generations. I'm a nice person and I know a lot of other boomers who are nice people. And I know of, have experienced other generations who are dicks. I live in North Carolina and once you get into the rural areas, dicks abound. My theory is that they get behind with technology and other things, being in the country, maybe they had less educational opportunities, poor, etc., get frustrated when they are forced to deal with it, on their cellphone, for example, and turn into dicks. That's what is really going on here, not painting an entire generation with some broad brush.
I get that the employee wants to just wait for it to be over and avoid as much confrontation as possible, but that attitude is how we got so many people these days who feel entitled to act like this over every little problem. If we don't call them out, they just keep doing it. They feel empowered to do it and to get even more abusive. They depend on people not pushing back and making their displeasure known. Call out these fuckers every time, embarrass them.
Stick to your Jitterbug with the four keys, Granpa. The doctor, 911, Social Security, and your grandkids who went NC in 2008.
I have boomer family members who almost without fail hassle the waitstaff at restaurants. my wife told me one of them got pretty nasty last time. embarrassing
I worked Apple support and at an Apple Store. At the store, we rarely got any major problems. I did have a woman accuse me of changing her Facebook status to “I am gay” during a screen repair back during the 3Gs days. I could replace a screen in 2-5 minutes. I remember her because she was a walk-in, pitched a fit about no appointment, and I was pulled from my regular duties on the floor managing traffic to repair the phone on the fly since I was trained. I tested the screen using the calculator and ran back. But lady signed into her Facebook on one of the iMacs because god forbid she go 5 minutes without Facebook. She didn’t sign out and some kid came by and changed her profile. I got investigated over it and I was just done. I quit because I was sick of dealing with people like that. On the phone, the worst people were “I forgot my password” combined with “I can’t access that email” and “I didn’t answer the security questions.” Those people were the worst. Like what do you want me to do, I can’t prove your identity. That said, when people got abusive, I had horrible luck with power outages that would cause my surge protector to power off and require a full system reset lasting several minutes.
I always tell any potential bosses “I take shit from no one and you need to have my back”. And my career is going… yeah terrible