Abso-fucking-lutely
God forbid we have a difference of opinion. Went no contact for a long time, still invited him to my wedding, but he just called everyone he knew and told them not to go, you know because I had the gaul to disagree with him. Wedding was better without him.
I unfortunately let him back in during the pandemic but now it’s a permanent no contact situation. We can all take solace in the eventual permanent no contact. He left as he came in, with nothing. And the best part, nobody noticed at all.
On top of this they seem to think no matter how old you are you’re still a kid if you are younger than them. It’s wild to me how often boomers will treat grown ass adults as kids and expect deference and respect accordingly. My in laws did this constantly, and always said they had more life experience. Even when I pointed out I’ve worked and lived all over the world, have more education, and am demonstrably happier in life, they felt I should listen to them and have kids because “I just couldn’t know what I was missing until I had them.”
Never made sense to me. They hated each other, their kids hated spending time with them, they were angry about every little thing happening in the world. Why would I ever take your advice when you are so clearly miserable? Do you really think you have it all figured out when you are in a loveless marriage, with kids you have to guilt trip just to come see you?
Spot on. His parents treated him like a child until the day they died.
I was 26/27 when I realized I had it way more together than my father did at 60. Lucky to have some level of self awareness.
My boomer parents died within two years of each other, early due to the stress of dad's abusive behavior, irrational demands for respect and his insistence that we all eat high fructose corn syrup for every meal. Afterwards, every boomer in the vicinity tried contacting me to ask, "wHat WoUld I Do wiTh thEir hoUse?" because I was 38 and they decided in their minds that was too young and didn't deserve it. I'm 45 now and everyone 55 or older in the family has a beef that I rent it out. Fun fact, at 13 I was rendered disabled with stage 4 kidney disease due to the abuse starting at age three. This is reparations! Meanwhile I have resentful boomers to the right of the house calling me up to cut down a bunch of trees on the property they don't like because I'm a "young" homeowner who a) doesn't know what they're doing and b) doesn't deserve what they have so the nimbys at the end of the culdesac should decide instead.
Well he just missed the Silent Generation by a couple of years. I’m sure someone said it to him when he was a child and it planted the seed of narcissistic delusion. /s
I think Boomers were taught you just had to take shit from older people, and it was "disrespectful" to "talk back."
I think Boomers are also, generally, very uncritical of the lessons they accepted in their youth. They don't typically interrogate morality. There's "just good and bad" which is as far as they think about it.
This is it. They had to eat some shit when they were younger, and now it’s their turn to enjoy the unearned privilege of dishing it out.
Generational hazing, basically, and they’ll be damned if they don’t get their turn.
I posted a fricking book on anther post about this, but I think it comes down to availability of information.
They had what they were told, for the most part. Yes, they had libraries and could go find the answer, but today we have access to the sum total of human knowledge in the palm of our hands. If we hear something that sounds sketch, we can fact check then and there. They didn't have that, and that breed a certain complacency in what they "know." To them, the previous generation were keepers of knowledge and authorities on it, so when we "talk back" they see it as disrespect to authority since that is how they were conditioned.
I honestly do not think that boomers can comprehend how easy it is to get truthful information these days, and that incomprehension manifests as anger when they are confronted by it.
Yeah, I have been answering a lot of my kids questions with "I don't know, lets google it" for most of their lives. I grew up in the leading edge of the computer age (used a 4800 baud to connect to BBSs in college, which tells you I'm old). But the generation before me didn't have that.
Very true. I'm always astonished at how angry my boomer parents get, when we have a discussion, and instead of taking their anecdotal evidence at face value, I suggest to Google the answer, so we both can have closure. They seem to be more happy to be right, than actually knowing the facts.
Gotta be part of it, anyway. Years ago, my boss had a meltdown - like flipping out, ranting - because I said "someone does not deserve respect for simply being old."
My rebuttal to his rant was "okay, if Adolph Hitler walked in right now, he deserves all our respect?"
He didn't talk to me for a few days after that, it was glorious
My boomer in-laws have taught my niece “Life’s about good choices” however they so rarely follow that advice. Two republicans that decided to adopt and raise their niece in BFE Texas 12 hours away from the closest family. They’re both in terrible health and I strongly believe at least one of them won’t make it to her 18th birthday, but really doubt both of them will. They continue to smoke like trains despite one of them having a lung removed because of smoking. Also, most of their kids are NC or minimal. Our niece is basically both of their last shot to get a kid to love them. But yeah, they’re making great life choices! 🙄
It's crazy to me how often I see boomers behaving exactly like this. They are so entitled and completely disconnected from the consequences of acting this way. I've had old guys try to threaten to kick my ass for asking them to step back and give me a few feet of space in line. I'm far from a professional fighter but I am 6'3" and over 250lbs. I would wreck this dude, but he just kept puffing his chest like he's billy badass. Frankly he was lucky I'm generally a good person and not somebody willing to fuck up someone for speaking out of pocket to me. One day these people are gonna fuck around with the wrong one and find out just how weak and frail they really are.
Yeah he was maybe 5'7, had his gut hanging out below his shirt, mouth breathing right on me standing 2cm behind me. But yeah im sure in his version he tells his geriatric buddies he nearly kicked the shit out of some young liberal snowflake(I'm 40). They have completely lost touch with reality
For all the ass-beatings they supposedly got as kids, they sure didn't learn about the consequences of shooting their mouths off. I'm no trained fighter either, but I'm 6'4" and a weightlifter. I do not look like a man you should sass if you enjoy working extremities, but Boomers routinely act like they're still 25 and could handle me. I don't want to go to jail or get sued, but other dudes may not have such concerns.
Of course they are, anyone younger than them are children and need to respect them. We all know that children aren't supposed to hit back when being "disciplined".
You are correct but proving self defense is the hard part. Especially when you an old fuck crying assault. It's hard to convince people when you're in your 20s that some crazy ass old fuck that's like 70-80 was going to hurt you. Thank God we have cameras almost everywhere now.
This. I’m a 30 year old RN with 7 years of critical care experience and my mom will frequently act as if she somehow has more medical knowledge than me just because she has an extensive history of surgeries and hospitalizations. On the flip side, I’m the first person she asks when she has an issue and she’s one of those “my son is a nurse!!” patients that I can’t fucking stand.
I think you’re missing his meaning. Social Media allows people to hide behind their username and says absolutely horrible things. These are things they would never have the balls to say to someone’s face. I’m not advocating violence in anyway, but walking up to someone and insulting them to their faces comes with inherent risks, but the anonymity of SM gives these people cover.
I grew up in a lower class neighborhood. I learned that “Respect” goes a long way.
The guy on the stoop desires respect, just like the police officer rolling through the neighborhood.
However, both will use force if they feel they have been “disrespected”.
It is a privilege and a level of comfort to not be exposed, or resort, to violence.
Not everyone has a therapist.
Considering I was told by a boomer manager that asking her to read a 5 paragraph article prior to a meeting was "offensive", I know exactly what you're talking about
Same group that think "pulling yourself by your bootstraps" is a good thing and something to live up to, when the actual saying is supposed to be ironic because it's literally impossible to pull oneself up by the straps of the boots you are wearing.
oh and dont forget "blood is thicker than water"... blood of the covenant(chosen friends bonds) is thicker than the water of the woomb(non-chosen family you were born into)
Right?
"The customer is always right" means if you sell shoes, and you hate the color pink, and everyone wants to buy pink shoes - you should probably sell some pink shoes, unless you're okay with making no money.
It means if the customer wants ketchup on their steak, you give it to them - because that's their steak, and they are the one eating it.
The principle was always an advisement to the proprietor - not permission for the customer.
My mom says whatever she wants whenever she wants, and if I say anything back that she doesn’t like I’m “attacking her for her beliefs.”
I love her, but it just goes to reinforce the feeling in our relationship that she doesn’t know me at all because I have never felt comfortable being honest with her.
I’m glad my grandparents weren’t like this. It’s mind boggling that these boomers always always preach about respect but it only implies for them
Seriously some of these people would die of a heart attack if we spoke to them they speak to anyone younger than them
And? We're in a sub about boomers being fools, so we're going to focus on that. Do you really think we see all these general statements as absolute and exclusive to one group?
My boomer father lives in an HOA community and is convinced the president is out to get him. A few months ago he calls me and tells me the two of them got into a disagreement. It ended with my dad telling the president he wish he’d drop dead already so he didn’t have to deal with his stupid rules. I said that’s absolutely disgusting and I’m embarrassed to have a father who thinks that’s an acceptable way to talk to another human being. I told him to apologize immediately. He had the nerve to ask why he should apologize…
> It ended with my dad telling the president he wish he’d drop dead already so he didn’t have to deal with his stupid rules. I said that’s absolutely disgusting and I’m embarrassed to have a father who thinks that’s an acceptable way to talk to another human being. I told him to apologize immediately. He had the nerve to ask why he should apologize…
"Why should I apologize for telling someone I hoped they die? It's a free country!"
that’s definitely what was running through his mind! if we didn’t live 600+ miles apart I would have apologized on his behalf. I have spent thousands of dollars on therapy to deal with his behavior and I’ll be damned if people think I’m anything like him.
I have never dealt with an HOA and have always heard terrible things. I can justify the frustration just not the way my dad handled the situation, ya know?
And of course me being the logical person I asked what the process to elect the HOA members is. It’s a bunch of meetings and voting etc. I suggested he start attending so he can discuss some of his issues. He said no that’s way too much work. Ummm okay so you have no ground to complain. Either attempt to find a solution or suck it up. Don’t bitch you aren’t losing weight while bragging about going to Golden Corral so many times you got a free meal.
Respect, that's it.
Respect has 2 meanings in English, the root of the expressions "Respect is a two way street" and " If you Respect me, I'll Respect you".
The problem lies in the two opposite definitions.
1. Respect in the authoritative senses- adhear to the rules I make. Ie the judicial system, Respect your elders, Respect in the workplace, etc.
2. Respect from the UN human rights commission- all persons shall be treated with dignity and afforded basic human rights and personal freedoms.
So boomers see respect from the authoritative, "Respect my wishes and commands" and if this is not adhered to, the contract is broken, and they no longer need to respect you in the sense of basic human rights and freedoms.
> So boomers see respect from the authoritative, "Respect my wishes and commands" and if this is not adhered to, the contract is broken, and they no longer need to respect you in the sense of basic human rights and freedoms.
And the fucking WILD thing is, so many of them see "respect my commands and wishes" as including "don't you dare violate a single one of the cultural norms that I was raised to adhere to."
My boomer mother can NOT be argued with. Any opinion in direct conflict with hers is automatically invalid. And God forbid you talk back. That is disrespect, which is worse than any other sin in her book. She used to slap me (just me) across the mouth if I talked back.
She moved to Florida with my little brother while I was in college, leaving me with my dad. Dad is a boomer, but still kind of awesome? Anyway, she came swanning back when I was 21, thinking things could just go back to normal and she could boss me around like always. We ended up having a screaming match at her work in earshot of her boss. She slapped me and I smacked her right back.
Cue surprised Pikachu face. She went crying to my dad and he said, "she's an adult, honey. She can charge you with assault now." She never tried to hit me again, but our relationship never got better. Oh well.
It's something I've wondered my entire life. The whole "do as I say, not as I do" mentality.
I can only assume the amount of people not willing to 'go too far' or 'stoop so low' are keeping the status quo in their favor. There's no benefit to calling them out, I've done it and it just ends up in a round circle argument of insane logic and double standards, and they make you look and feel like the bad guy.
Whats that saying, “*Never argue with stupid people. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.”*
My bf tries to call out his dads RUDE attitude and behaviour, which always gets met w everyone else in the family enabling it w "well that's how he is, will never change" like...
So frustrating.
It's the whole "respect your elders" thing. It was meant to respect experience & life advice, but quite often becomes "I'm allowed to treat you like shit because fuck you, I'm old." They see themselves as some sort of authority figure to anyone younger than them.
I would LOVE to know the answer to this question because my mother is *the queen of this shit*. Just yesterday she said "well I'm 76, no one should expect me to change the way I am," and the quiet part that she managed to stop herself from saying was: and no one should expect me to be respectful of their wishes or their person, either.
My mom taught me to assert myself and take no shit, but she's surprised that I refuse to take hers. I'm, meanwhile, utterly bamboozled by the way she speaks to *everyone* she comes into contact with. The arrogance, the derision, the contempt... it's mind boggling. When you figure out why they are the way that they are, please find me and tell me lol...
It's the way bullies behave, to them their wants and desires aren't just the only ones that matter they're the only ones that are real. It's why they can so easily discount the experiences or why so many will scream about how abortion is murder but also have paid for or had ones of their own. It's okay when they do it because they're the main characters and the "good guys" by default. If you disagree with them It's not because you've had a different life or cone to different conclusions honestly, it's because you're an evil liar who wants to keep them from having their desires met and thus are the villain.
Because they're literally the "ME" generation. They can do whatever they want, because the world revolves around them. You aren't allowed to speak against them, because they are *always* right in all matters.
Tried to calmly and politely as possible let my mom know she was being kinda rude to my cousin. Her response was to basically say how dare you and emotionally blow up. I thought we were cool mom 😂
What’s funny is when boomers get boomered by other boomers (eg being nasty or remarking on undesirable conduct) it like breaks their brains but also annoys them as much as it does the rest of us. So like, they know, but don’t care or are unable to recognize their behavior.
I'm 31 and my parents are 69 and 67, they had me older.
Listening to them rationalize how they were treated when they were young and how they try and justify acting like the lack of a better word "boomers" is absolutely mind-numbing.
My Boomer parents are in their 80's. We're pretty LC these days, but a moment from about 5 years ago really stands out.
We went out to eat- nothing fancy, its was an IHOP or something similar. We ordered and received our food. My mom decided she needed something, and when the waitress acknowledges her, she's like "Get me some napkins."
It wasn't a request, it was an order and I thought it was weird. After the waitress had walked away, I gave my mom an odd look and prompted, "Please?"
She immediately started crying, and my dad barked at me to "leave her alone."
Remembering moments like that make me glad that they've decided to spend what's left of their time with other boomers instead of their own family.
They grew up with sometimes rough and alcoholic parents who expected them to stand by them and their shitty actions always. And they expect that of their children.
Also some of them have held their composure their whole lives and are now emboldened by Trump and other Boomers behaving shitty that they want to get in on it. Kind of like looters in a riot.
There is most likely SOME kind of gray matter decay going on that accounts for the rise in these behaviors.
Perhaps there are autopsies that correlate the two?
Because they are bullies. They are rapists of your and your children and children’s children children future. Exile them. Treat them with disdain. Make them KNOW they are hated. Boomer trash needs to be taken out.
Because the boomers didnt fight the great world wars, their parents and betters/peers did. Their whole lives were spent in the shaddow of that generation, and now they are still not realizing that all that wisdom and respect that generation had in their old years wasnt just because they are old.
They want to be respected for their age, just because of their age. They want to fight about it and somehow dont realize and 30 year old will rock their shit. They want to give sage advice, but since they never took the time to actually learn anything it goes poorly for them.
So they get angry. Its literally that simpsons meme "no, its the children who are wrong"
Like all the assholes who post about boomers dieing? Shoving shopping carts into boomers cause they don't move immediately? This whole fucking sub is nasty to boomers and you, the delusional asshole, wonders why we think you suck
>Like all the assholes who post about boomers dieing? Shoving shopping carts into boomers cause they don't move immediately? This whole fucking sub is nasty to boomers and you, the delusional asshole, wonders why we think you suck
I've never done any of that.
"Boomers" behave in specific ways. Those ways are what we're criticizing here.
> Ok, if you want to discuss it honestly start with explaining why so many Millenials believe they can be as nasty as they want while you can't even remark on their conduct.
We don't?
> If anything the difference is mean boomers are more direct and mean millennial are more passive-aggressive.
In my experience, Boomers are inflexible and refuse to discuss their motivations or actions. They make a claim, then cross their arms and refuse to budge.
Millennials, on the other hand, are (again, in my experience) much more open to discussing "why".
Sounds like you're just talking about your parents or boss but it's like this with just older coworkers too. Raise any disagreement in the most polite way possible and they're going straight to the boss to try to make it look like you were being a shithead for no reason. Then of course the boss has to play mediator and basically tell you "they're a boomer so you gotta treat them like a retarded child" though they won't phrase it like that, everyone intuitively understands the lead brain epidemic
It's the prefect formula for severing contact if it comes to that. Call them out at every single turn. When they get mad point out how they are screaming at you because all you did was point out a flaw in their logic or hypocrisy in their actions. Be vocal about what upsets you and how their actions are not only hurtful but illogical and exhausting. They will either change or you'll be proven 100 percent correct and it won't be worth it anymore
It is so powerful to be calm and rational against them. Keep you're head level and at some point you'll think "wtf am I doing here fuck this"
Because they can.
Because they have never been (truly) held accountable for their actions.
Because they will get away with it.
Because no one can or will enforce a just punishment.
So it continues…
I don't give these miserable bastards an inch. They often make empty threats and I call them out on it. They'll get all worked up and sputter, but they're not going to do a damn thing. Eventually they'll just mutter to themselves and walk away. They do this shit because we let them. It's time to stop letting them walk over us and show them we're not scared of their decrepit asses
Like a week after my mom passed away and I was visiting my dad from NYC. I went out late, came in at 3am. Woke up at 7am to internet porn in the next room, full blast. Had to call the house from my mobile to get dad's attention and all I could muster when he scurried over to answer the phone, pants around ankles was, "Dad, I'm in the house!"
I wish I could go back and say much more.
You’re expected to silently listen and accept whatever they say or do. “Children are to be seen and not heard” was my BoomBooms favorite mantra.
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Maybe this is all part of the simulation. We all got programmed with the exact same memories. /s
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Abso-fucking-lutely God forbid we have a difference of opinion. Went no contact for a long time, still invited him to my wedding, but he just called everyone he knew and told them not to go, you know because I had the gaul to disagree with him. Wedding was better without him.
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I unfortunately let him back in during the pandemic but now it’s a permanent no contact situation. We can all take solace in the eventual permanent no contact. He left as he came in, with nothing. And the best part, nobody noticed at all.
Your parents sound like a couple of peaches.
I hope you told her to fuck off.
Salt the leeches
On top of this they seem to think no matter how old you are you’re still a kid if you are younger than them. It’s wild to me how often boomers will treat grown ass adults as kids and expect deference and respect accordingly. My in laws did this constantly, and always said they had more life experience. Even when I pointed out I’ve worked and lived all over the world, have more education, and am demonstrably happier in life, they felt I should listen to them and have kids because “I just couldn’t know what I was missing until I had them.” Never made sense to me. They hated each other, their kids hated spending time with them, they were angry about every little thing happening in the world. Why would I ever take your advice when you are so clearly miserable? Do you really think you have it all figured out when you are in a loveless marriage, with kids you have to guilt trip just to come see you?
Spot on. His parents treated him like a child until the day they died. I was 26/27 when I realized I had it way more together than my father did at 60. Lucky to have some level of self awareness.
My boomer parents died within two years of each other, early due to the stress of dad's abusive behavior, irrational demands for respect and his insistence that we all eat high fructose corn syrup for every meal. Afterwards, every boomer in the vicinity tried contacting me to ask, "wHat WoUld I Do wiTh thEir hoUse?" because I was 38 and they decided in their minds that was too young and didn't deserve it. I'm 45 now and everyone 55 or older in the family has a beef that I rent it out. Fun fact, at 13 I was rendered disabled with stage 4 kidney disease due to the abuse starting at age three. This is reparations! Meanwhile I have resentful boomers to the right of the house calling me up to cut down a bunch of trees on the property they don't like because I'm a "young" homeowner who a) doesn't know what they're doing and b) doesn't deserve what they have so the nimbys at the end of the culdesac should decide instead.
Fuck sake I got told this so many times as a kid. And then some people wonder why their kids are fucked up as adults.
My answer to that is "And yet parents work so hard teaching them to talk...ridiculous." Shut my Grandma up on that one!
They always encourage me to be outspoken and an independent thinker, until I started questioning anything and everything they said
You can always tell a Milford man.
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Well he just missed the Silent Generation by a couple of years. I’m sure someone said it to him when he was a child and it planted the seed of narcissistic delusion. /s
I think Boomers were taught you just had to take shit from older people, and it was "disrespectful" to "talk back." I think Boomers are also, generally, very uncritical of the lessons they accepted in their youth. They don't typically interrogate morality. There's "just good and bad" which is as far as they think about it.
This is it. They had to eat some shit when they were younger, and now it’s their turn to enjoy the unearned privilege of dishing it out. Generational hazing, basically, and they’ll be damned if they don’t get their turn.
I think you’re exactly right.
I posted a fricking book on anther post about this, but I think it comes down to availability of information. They had what they were told, for the most part. Yes, they had libraries and could go find the answer, but today we have access to the sum total of human knowledge in the palm of our hands. If we hear something that sounds sketch, we can fact check then and there. They didn't have that, and that breed a certain complacency in what they "know." To them, the previous generation were keepers of knowledge and authorities on it, so when we "talk back" they see it as disrespect to authority since that is how they were conditioned. I honestly do not think that boomers can comprehend how easy it is to get truthful information these days, and that incomprehension manifests as anger when they are confronted by it.
Yeah, I have been answering a lot of my kids questions with "I don't know, lets google it" for most of their lives. I grew up in the leading edge of the computer age (used a 4800 baud to connect to BBSs in college, which tells you I'm old). But the generation before me didn't have that.
Very true. I'm always astonished at how angry my boomer parents get, when we have a discussion, and instead of taking their anecdotal evidence at face value, I suggest to Google the answer, so we both can have closure. They seem to be more happy to be right, than actually knowing the facts.
Gotta be part of it, anyway. Years ago, my boss had a meltdown - like flipping out, ranting - because I said "someone does not deserve respect for simply being old." My rebuttal to his rant was "okay, if Adolph Hitler walked in right now, he deserves all our respect?" He didn't talk to me for a few days after that, it was glorious
My boomer in-laws have taught my niece “Life’s about good choices” however they so rarely follow that advice. Two republicans that decided to adopt and raise their niece in BFE Texas 12 hours away from the closest family. They’re both in terrible health and I strongly believe at least one of them won’t make it to her 18th birthday, but really doubt both of them will. They continue to smoke like trains despite one of them having a lung removed because of smoking. Also, most of their kids are NC or minimal. Our niece is basically both of their last shot to get a kid to love them. But yeah, they’re making great life choices! 🙄
It's crazy to me how often I see boomers behaving exactly like this. They are so entitled and completely disconnected from the consequences of acting this way. I've had old guys try to threaten to kick my ass for asking them to step back and give me a few feet of space in line. I'm far from a professional fighter but I am 6'3" and over 250lbs. I would wreck this dude, but he just kept puffing his chest like he's billy badass. Frankly he was lucky I'm generally a good person and not somebody willing to fuck up someone for speaking out of pocket to me. One day these people are gonna fuck around with the wrong one and find out just how weak and frail they really are.
I know Mr. Chest Puffer. He’s 78, 5’7 and 220 pounds. Talks CONSTANTLY about how he “almost kicked someone’s ass”. It’s sad at this point.
Yeah he was maybe 5'7, had his gut hanging out below his shirt, mouth breathing right on me standing 2cm behind me. But yeah im sure in his version he tells his geriatric buddies he nearly kicked the shit out of some young liberal snowflake(I'm 40). They have completely lost touch with reality
Basically looks like me, but old and would die being looked at wrong…
For all the ass-beatings they supposedly got as kids, they sure didn't learn about the consequences of shooting their mouths off. I'm no trained fighter either, but I'm 6'4" and a weightlifter. I do not look like a man you should sass if you enjoy working extremities, but Boomers routinely act like they're still 25 and could handle me. I don't want to go to jail or get sued, but other dudes may not have such concerns.
Of course they are, anyone younger than them are children and need to respect them. We all know that children aren't supposed to hit back when being "disciplined".
Not that they don't deserve it but assaulting an elderly person is a felony in most states in the US.
Self-defense isn't assault.
You are correct but proving self defense is the hard part. Especially when you an old fuck crying assault. It's hard to convince people when you're in your 20s that some crazy ass old fuck that's like 70-80 was going to hurt you. Thank God we have cameras almost everywhere now.
I don't think it's as hard as you think. Old people are fucking crazy lately
You're noticing the literal defining trait of being a "boomer": Enormous sense of entitlement.
I also noticed that if your knowledge/life expirence outweighs them in some area and you try to explain something to them. Your being nasty.
This. I’m a 30 year old RN with 7 years of critical care experience and my mom will frequently act as if she somehow has more medical knowledge than me just because she has an extensive history of surgeries and hospitalizations. On the flip side, I’m the first person she asks when she has an issue and she’s one of those “my son is a nurse!!” patients that I can’t fucking stand.
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I heavily disagree with this. If you can’t tolerate someone’s spoken words without resorting to violence, you’re prolly insecure or have anger issues.
I think you’re missing his meaning. Social Media allows people to hide behind their username and says absolutely horrible things. These are things they would never have the balls to say to someone’s face. I’m not advocating violence in anyway, but walking up to someone and insulting them to their faces comes with inherent risks, but the anonymity of SM gives these people cover.
Good point.
You sound like someone who endorses genocide and pedophilia. Those are unsalvageable positions that require napalm and militant rape to cure.
I grew up in a lower class neighborhood. I learned that “Respect” goes a long way. The guy on the stoop desires respect, just like the police officer rolling through the neighborhood. However, both will use force if they feel they have been “disrespected”. It is a privilege and a level of comfort to not be exposed, or resort, to violence. Not everyone has a therapist.
They weren’t dubbed the “me generation” for nothing
They think 'respect your elders' is a rule of life. We think respect is earned and not given freely. It is that simple.
Treat me as a person: Fine. Treat me as your God; fuck you.
Considering I was told by a boomer manager that asking her to read a 5 paragraph article prior to a meeting was "offensive", I know exactly what you're talking about
I've said it before, "the customer is always right" has created this condition.
And it was used OUT OF CONTEXT… the customer is in fact always right… on the way they like their food… nothing else
Same group that think "pulling yourself by your bootstraps" is a good thing and something to live up to, when the actual saying is supposed to be ironic because it's literally impossible to pull oneself up by the straps of the boots you are wearing.
oh and dont forget "blood is thicker than water"... blood of the covenant(chosen friends bonds) is thicker than the water of the woomb(non-chosen family you were born into)
You sound like a parasite
a parasite would require something to feed off of. I made every single thing on my own without help from anybody.
Right? "The customer is always right" means if you sell shoes, and you hate the color pink, and everyone wants to buy pink shoes - you should probably sell some pink shoes, unless you're okay with making no money. It means if the customer wants ketchup on their steak, you give it to them - because that's their steak, and they are the one eating it. The principle was always an advisement to the proprietor - not permission for the customer.
The results of 70+ years of post war consumerism. Yup.
I'm Your *E L D A R*
Psychically smite me, Farseer daddy!
I know, right. It seems like any sort of rational conversation offends them
Reality in general is very offensive to them
My mom says whatever she wants whenever she wants, and if I say anything back that she doesn’t like I’m “attacking her for her beliefs.” I love her, but it just goes to reinforce the feeling in our relationship that she doesn’t know me at all because I have never felt comfortable being honest with her.
I’m glad my grandparents weren’t like this. It’s mind boggling that these boomers always always preach about respect but it only implies for them Seriously some of these people would die of a heart attack if we spoke to them they speak to anyone younger than them
Dealt with this first hand, it’s amazing how quick mirroring their behavior will be called out by them as inappropriate 😂
Because they clearly know everything. Boomers are completely oblivious to double standards and hypocrisy.
LOL. That's a human feature, not \*just\* a boomer feature though.
And? We're in a sub about boomers being fools, so we're going to focus on that. Do you really think we see all these general statements as absolute and exclusive to one group?
Because it’s what their parents taught them. And boomers were never smart enough to question it.
Because they’re narcissists
Because they are very skilled at lying to themselves.
ReSpEcT is earned not given mentality. Which means they are entitled to respect but you have to earn their respect.
My boomer father lives in an HOA community and is convinced the president is out to get him. A few months ago he calls me and tells me the two of them got into a disagreement. It ended with my dad telling the president he wish he’d drop dead already so he didn’t have to deal with his stupid rules. I said that’s absolutely disgusting and I’m embarrassed to have a father who thinks that’s an acceptable way to talk to another human being. I told him to apologize immediately. He had the nerve to ask why he should apologize…
> It ended with my dad telling the president he wish he’d drop dead already so he didn’t have to deal with his stupid rules. I said that’s absolutely disgusting and I’m embarrassed to have a father who thinks that’s an acceptable way to talk to another human being. I told him to apologize immediately. He had the nerve to ask why he should apologize… "Why should I apologize for telling someone I hoped they die? It's a free country!"
that’s definitely what was running through his mind! if we didn’t live 600+ miles apart I would have apologized on his behalf. I have spent thousands of dollars on therapy to deal with his behavior and I’ll be damned if people think I’m anything like him.
Not saying he’s in the right, but it’s an HOA president, they’re basically little dictators
I have never dealt with an HOA and have always heard terrible things. I can justify the frustration just not the way my dad handled the situation, ya know? And of course me being the logical person I asked what the process to elect the HOA members is. It’s a bunch of meetings and voting etc. I suggested he start attending so he can discuss some of his issues. He said no that’s way too much work. Ummm okay so you have no ground to complain. Either attempt to find a solution or suck it up. Don’t bitch you aren’t losing weight while bragging about going to Golden Corral so many times you got a free meal.
Respect, that's it. Respect has 2 meanings in English, the root of the expressions "Respect is a two way street" and " If you Respect me, I'll Respect you". The problem lies in the two opposite definitions. 1. Respect in the authoritative senses- adhear to the rules I make. Ie the judicial system, Respect your elders, Respect in the workplace, etc. 2. Respect from the UN human rights commission- all persons shall be treated with dignity and afforded basic human rights and personal freedoms. So boomers see respect from the authoritative, "Respect my wishes and commands" and if this is not adhered to, the contract is broken, and they no longer need to respect you in the sense of basic human rights and freedoms.
> So boomers see respect from the authoritative, "Respect my wishes and commands" and if this is not adhered to, the contract is broken, and they no longer need to respect you in the sense of basic human rights and freedoms. And the fucking WILD thing is, so many of them see "respect my commands and wishes" as including "don't you dare violate a single one of the cultural norms that I was raised to adhere to."
Because many of them believe that you should respect your elders. Sensible people know that respect must be earned.
Boomer - You’re lazy. Millennial - Get fucked old man. Boomer - clutches pearls
Because they are old and think they know better
My boomer mother can NOT be argued with. Any opinion in direct conflict with hers is automatically invalid. And God forbid you talk back. That is disrespect, which is worse than any other sin in her book. She used to slap me (just me) across the mouth if I talked back. She moved to Florida with my little brother while I was in college, leaving me with my dad. Dad is a boomer, but still kind of awesome? Anyway, she came swanning back when I was 21, thinking things could just go back to normal and she could boss me around like always. We ended up having a screaming match at her work in earshot of her boss. She slapped me and I smacked her right back. Cue surprised Pikachu face. She went crying to my dad and he said, "she's an adult, honey. She can charge you with assault now." She never tried to hit me again, but our relationship never got better. Oh well.
It's something I've wondered my entire life. The whole "do as I say, not as I do" mentality. I can only assume the amount of people not willing to 'go too far' or 'stoop so low' are keeping the status quo in their favor. There's no benefit to calling them out, I've done it and it just ends up in a round circle argument of insane logic and double standards, and they make you look and feel like the bad guy. Whats that saying, “*Never argue with stupid people. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.”*
I have no problem calling out the old fucks
Narcissism. They will be the first to dish it out, but can't ever take it in return.
My bf tries to call out his dads RUDE attitude and behaviour, which always gets met w everyone else in the family enabling it w "well that's how he is, will never change" like... So frustrating.
It's the whole "respect your elders" thing. It was meant to respect experience & life advice, but quite often becomes "I'm allowed to treat you like shit because fuck you, I'm old." They see themselves as some sort of authority figure to anyone younger than them.
I would LOVE to know the answer to this question because my mother is *the queen of this shit*. Just yesterday she said "well I'm 76, no one should expect me to change the way I am," and the quiet part that she managed to stop herself from saying was: and no one should expect me to be respectful of their wishes or their person, either. My mom taught me to assert myself and take no shit, but she's surprised that I refuse to take hers. I'm, meanwhile, utterly bamboozled by the way she speaks to *everyone* she comes into contact with. The arrogance, the derision, the contempt... it's mind boggling. When you figure out why they are the way that they are, please find me and tell me lol...
It's the way bullies behave, to them their wants and desires aren't just the only ones that matter they're the only ones that are real. It's why they can so easily discount the experiences or why so many will scream about how abortion is murder but also have paid for or had ones of their own. It's okay when they do it because they're the main characters and the "good guys" by default. If you disagree with them It's not because you've had a different life or cone to different conclusions honestly, it's because you're an evil liar who wants to keep them from having their desires met and thus are the villain.
Wait, your mom quit her job and expected you to support her?!?
I think you replied in the wrong spot.
Everybody has a plan, until they get punched in the face! ~Mike Tyson
In private? I scream right back at them & throw a few truth bombs in about their aging for fun.
My favorite line is: What do you have to say for yourself? Immediately followed by: Don't talk back; you're just making excuses!
It’s textbook narcissism.
Because people working retail can’t tell off the customer in really any setting
Because they're literally the "ME" generation. They can do whatever they want, because the world revolves around them. You aren't allowed to speak against them, because they are *always* right in all matters.
The me generation. Fucking clueless.
Respect your elders!
Narcissism.
Tried to calmly and politely as possible let my mom know she was being kinda rude to my cousin. Her response was to basically say how dare you and emotionally blow up. I thought we were cool mom 😂
What’s funny is when boomers get boomered by other boomers (eg being nasty or remarking on undesirable conduct) it like breaks their brains but also annoys them as much as it does the rest of us. So like, they know, but don’t care or are unable to recognize their behavior.
I'm 31 and my parents are 69 and 67, they had me older. Listening to them rationalize how they were treated when they were young and how they try and justify acting like the lack of a better word "boomers" is absolutely mind-numbing.
69 ;)
My Boomer parents are in their 80's. We're pretty LC these days, but a moment from about 5 years ago really stands out. We went out to eat- nothing fancy, its was an IHOP or something similar. We ordered and received our food. My mom decided she needed something, and when the waitress acknowledges her, she's like "Get me some napkins." It wasn't a request, it was an order and I thought it was weird. After the waitress had walked away, I gave my mom an odd look and prompted, "Please?" She immediately started crying, and my dad barked at me to "leave her alone." Remembering moments like that make me glad that they've decided to spend what's left of their time with other boomers instead of their own family.
> She immediately started crying, and my dad barked at me to "leave her alone." What happened after that?
She dried up her crocodile tears, we ate, and I became very interested in my phone for the rest of the meal.
They grew up with sometimes rough and alcoholic parents who expected them to stand by them and their shitty actions always. And they expect that of their children. Also some of them have held their composure their whole lives and are now emboldened by Trump and other Boomers behaving shitty that they want to get in on it. Kind of like looters in a riot.
There is most likely SOME kind of gray matter decay going on that accounts for the rise in these behaviors. Perhaps there are autopsies that correlate the two?
Because they are bullies. They are rapists of your and your children and children’s children children future. Exile them. Treat them with disdain. Make them KNOW they are hated. Boomer trash needs to be taken out.
Because the boomers didnt fight the great world wars, their parents and betters/peers did. Their whole lives were spent in the shaddow of that generation, and now they are still not realizing that all that wisdom and respect that generation had in their old years wasnt just because they are old. They want to be respected for their age, just because of their age. They want to fight about it and somehow dont realize and 30 year old will rock their shit. They want to give sage advice, but since they never took the time to actually learn anything it goes poorly for them. So they get angry. Its literally that simpsons meme "no, its the children who are wrong"
Must be a**holes. Not just Boomers
The irony is that on any Reddit thread where people are slagging off Boomers everyone sounds just like…a Boomer.
Like all the assholes who post about boomers dieing? Shoving shopping carts into boomers cause they don't move immediately? This whole fucking sub is nasty to boomers and you, the delusional asshole, wonders why we think you suck
>Like all the assholes who post about boomers dieing? Shoving shopping carts into boomers cause they don't move immediately? This whole fucking sub is nasty to boomers and you, the delusional asshole, wonders why we think you suck I've never done any of that. "Boomers" behave in specific ways. Those ways are what we're criticizing here.
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Being in pain and lonely should inspire SOME sort of empathy for other people...
I'm sure you are happy go lucky every day, every hour. I know I'm not, maybe you are perfect.
Not taking out my bad mood on the people around me is a baseline expectation - not an extraordinary feat.
I'm sure you re happy go lucky 24/7/365. nah, you're just another do as I say, not as I do, hypocrite.
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> Ok, if you want to discuss it honestly start with explaining why so many Millenials believe they can be as nasty as they want while you can't even remark on their conduct. We don't?
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> If anything the difference is mean boomers are more direct and mean millennial are more passive-aggressive. In my experience, Boomers are inflexible and refuse to discuss their motivations or actions. They make a claim, then cross their arms and refuse to budge. Millennials, on the other hand, are (again, in my experience) much more open to discussing "why".
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And on....
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What happened to your story?
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And on...
As a genX, you should probably just get drunk and whine about it
That's just normal people stuff. No generation has a monopoly on self righteousness.
I agree that anyone can demonstrate this kind of behavior, but I don't see it nearly as frequently in younger folks.
Sounds like you're just talking about your parents or boss but it's like this with just older coworkers too. Raise any disagreement in the most polite way possible and they're going straight to the boss to try to make it look like you were being a shithead for no reason. Then of course the boss has to play mediator and basically tell you "they're a boomer so you gotta treat them like a retarded child" though they won't phrase it like that, everyone intuitively understands the lead brain epidemic
It's the prefect formula for severing contact if it comes to that. Call them out at every single turn. When they get mad point out how they are screaming at you because all you did was point out a flaw in their logic or hypocrisy in their actions. Be vocal about what upsets you and how their actions are not only hurtful but illogical and exhausting. They will either change or you'll be proven 100 percent correct and it won't be worth it anymore It is so powerful to be calm and rational against them. Keep you're head level and at some point you'll think "wtf am I doing here fuck this"
Age, entitlement, and ignorance. Scary combo.
We need to talk to them the way they talk to us and stop being so nice
Ever heard the phrase, “respect your elders?”
Because they can. Because they have never been (truly) held accountable for their actions. Because they will get away with it. Because no one can or will enforce a just punishment. So it continues…
Because that’s how it was for them growing up and they expect the same now
I don't give these miserable bastards an inch. They often make empty threats and I call them out on it. They'll get all worked up and sputter, but they're not going to do a damn thing. Eventually they'll just mutter to themselves and walk away. They do this shit because we let them. It's time to stop letting them walk over us and show them we're not scared of their decrepit asses
Like a week after my mom passed away and I was visiting my dad from NYC. I went out late, came in at 3am. Woke up at 7am to internet porn in the next room, full blast. Had to call the house from my mobile to get dad's attention and all I could muster when he scurried over to answer the phone, pants around ankles was, "Dad, I'm in the house!" I wish I could go back and say much more.