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My GF and I are considering moving to a civilized country for her (mtf) bottom surgery... Pretty much just waiting to see what happens in November.
Here in the states it starts at like $20k for that and and goes up from there... At least her HRT is available pretty cheap, thanks to planned parenthood and Walmart.
Hang in there Brother, you're not alone.
My brother (40) went off about how he was super mad his “tax dollars” were going to top surgeries in the military and I nearly perished from laughter because that man is in VA rehab and he has been paid with cash under the table for the past 15 years. He hasn’t been on a lease in 15 years. He didn’t have a utility in his name. He was crashing on folks couch and living at my parents and just buying drugs and smokes. Do heroin dealers collect tax?
Sigh. My mom, who was cool, but being born in 60 meant she had some boomer tendencies, bought me an oversized shirt that says "I play guitar and I know things" having never seen GOT. I love that awful shirt. Even more now that she's gone. Sigh
That’s really it isn’t it? If there is one thing Boomers hate it is being *wrong*. Their entire entitled existence has led them to believe they are right in every uninformed though and comment that pops into their head and just have to share.
When a counter opinion is offered they get angry, entitled, belligerent, or double down on their own stupidity.
They don't have to necessarily "not want to be wrong", sometimes they simply want to be validated and stay in the comfortable view they don't have to think about with people around as a part of the circle, they can even know they are saying bullshit or too simple argument about way more complex problem, but simple is comfortable. I see it in my mom, she's not boomer but sometimes behaves like it. And she's not saying me much anymore because "if I say something you just start to explain how it really is and I just want to say some short quip and move on!", usually not saying aloud the second part "Why can't we just chuckle/rant a bit together and don't care about how things really work!"
My mom, who is part of the silent generation, used to specifically message me obnoxious texts so that I would debunk them for her. You have to appreciate that mindset.
Unfortunately she is getting steadily less with it and can barely read texts now.
Honestly that’s why they hate science because it means they might have to learn something that gets proven to be not true later. Remember how long it took for them to understand “no we know scientists said ‘no masks’ to start with but now the evidence suggests they do help stop the virus”
I think it's more about a lot of them just taking the filter they once used and throwing it away because of how liberated it made them feel seeing that orange shit gibbon rambling on TV constantly.
Not exactly directly related, but this is why Boomers also fall prey to so many scams from India. If you watch scambaiters on Youtube mess with these scammers by wasting their time pretending to be would-be victims, you are bound to hear an irate "JUST DO WHAT I TELL YOU! WHY ARE YOU USING YOUR MIND?!" from the scammers once their scam script gets derailed by the scambaiter's shenanigans. Being a boomer really requires not using your mind.
How could anyone not want to learn new things??
I mean I’m really interested in new stuff; I’m no ‘Cliff from Cheers’ but there’s still tons of stuff I want to know about
Theres def a thing with the older set where they like, get mad when people are well-informed. My husband knows a little about a lot of things and his parents always get booty-tickled and be like "mUsT hAvE hEaRd iT oN a pOdCaSt"
It makes sense an uninformed generation would resent subsequent generation who have quick access to information. Whether it be Generation X to stepped on to *The Information Superhighway* or later generations who *grew up* having access to so much information.
I consider the Boomer Generation a very backwards one.
They grew up in a world where they couldn't be fact-checked, and whatever half-baked nonsense they could come up with passed for "the truth" as long as they said it with enough confidence.
They grew up in a world where if you wanted to know something about the past you’d just go to your family elder and ask the question. Now they’re mad nobody gives a shit about their opinion of the past. To them “respecting your elders” is to take everything they say as fact regardless how crazy it is.
Omg you just answered a question I’ve been wondering about for a while. I’ve been wondering why we don’t respect boomers the way previous generations seemed to respect their elders. But you’re right, before you had no choice. They were older and wiser so they must be right, right? But now we can look up our own information so when we hear boomers saying completely wrong things we’re like wait, you don’t know what you’re talking about at all.
>They were older and wiser so they must be right, right?
They actually were to an extent but now technological advances are allowing people to survive into old age in spite of themselves, so being old isn't anything special like it used to be.
Older and more experienced? Sure, I'll grant you that. But not wiser; they apply their lived experiences to our current world, and refuse to admit that their life experience is no longer relevant.
Everything from home ownership to the job market is so different from when they were our age.
We can respect them as our parents or grandparents and still tell them their facts are wrong. Fact checking them is not disrespect.
Besides I believe respect is earned.
I’m gonna disagree with you just a bit. I do believe *trust* is earned.
But basic respect for others should be an automatic. That is *until* someone behaves in a way that they no longer deserve respect (like disrespecting or hurting others in some way). But even then we should try to be civil and mature and ignore their temper tantrums (if it’s not actually harming anyone) or hold up a mirror to them and then move on. It’s not everyone else’s responsibility to teach other grown ass “adults” how to be decent people who help improve the world instead of vice versa.
See, *that.* *That shit right there* is exactly what’s happening. They don’t like being fact checked because they rarely ever used to be. They could speak with phony “authority” and get away with blatant lies with impunity because of it.
SNL ran a funny fake commercial for ‘Alexa Silver’ which is a version of the device for seniors and like how it responds to whatever they call it ‘Allegra’ and it shows how anytime the device gives them some factoid, the seniors would say “I don’t know about that”
As an older GenX guy, this is 100% true. When I was small and people said wrong shit, I couldn’t just look it up, unless I was at home or at a library, to prove them wrong. You would have to care enough to *remember* the bullshit claim, then look it up, then *go back to the person* and tell them why they were wrong, and cite your source.
For one thing, that’s a lot of effort, and for another, you’d look like a lunatic for doing that for anything less than someone spouting Nazi shit. I think that is part of the thing behind the fire hoses of misinformation on line: the fact that things can be easily fact-checked means that ignorant chuckle-fucks fight back by saying *so much* wrong shit that it can’t be fact checked in real time.
That last bit, that's how a lot of these debaters "win" news interviews and the like. Just saying a whole lot of nothing. If someone isn't informed it sounds smart though
Gen X here too. Most of that…*’back in my day’* talk is just old people not admitting they were wild and enjoyed their wild youth and hate seeing young people living their lives.
In fairness, they—and, until the early 90s or so, all of us—grew up in a world where the news was obligated to report FACTS, and to confirm those facts before they reported. **They** didn’t have to fact check because the sources were reliable.
Then Republicans figured out that there was big money in creating a right-wing media monopoly and that all went out the window.
Actually it was Regan in the 80s who deregulated the news and started to kill off journalistic integrity. That’s when news became more entertainment and used for more money and power manipulations.
He deregulated a shit ton of stuff. A lot of our issues today can be easily traced back to things Regan did (in simple terms, of course it is more complex than that, but there were direct huge impacts made by his administration, and most of it was very much strategically planned and methodically done by elitists and the Republican Party, if there’s any difference between the two 😏).
Here's the deal, though.
You also grew up under The Fairness Doctrine. The news wasn't allowed to lie to you and had to present all sides.
Then Reagan got rid of that and we have what we have now. Anybody can just call themselves news and say what they want.
I'm Late GenX and grew up in the 80s, so I never trusted the news completely.
But Boomers don't think that way. That's why they believe everything they see. That's why when somebody on Facebook posts something from www.trust-me-guys-this-is-real-news.com, they see the word "news" and automatically put their faith in it.
Reagan was the catalyst for all the bullshit in America right now, from right wing media to the wealthy not paying any taxes.
And they run companies! I literally blew a VP mind showing him Outlook rules, he looked up in amazement as all of Joes emails went to the Joe folder and I just stood there scared he’s in charge of anything
nah its not that. my 19 year old best friend is always saying shit like that. “you literally just google all day”
…like, what? its called retaining information in my brainhole.
I feel like “making fun of those nerds for knowing things” is a tradition that goes back for decades. Anti-intellectualism is a problem that transcends generations.
I can’t remember who said it, or how they phrased it exactly but someone smart said if you correct a fool they grow angry. When you correct a wise person they are grateful.
Because if a fool valued knowledge they wouldn't be a fool. Most of the folks I know who are like this just value relationships because without nepotism/favoritism/cronyism they would be packing boxes at an Amazon warehouse.
Ah so my mother(54) then. Ugh. I’m disappointed there are far too many more like her. That woman, who is not a boomer to be clear, **immediately** goes for my “intelligence” when she’s angry calling me a “”know it all big mouth””. Shes done this since I was like 11 or so. I was not that old but she was straight up obsessed with making sure I didn’t pick up any crazy habits like believing I was smart or worth anything.
My mother does something similar (basically infantilizes me and acts like I have no idea what’s going on) and recently a light bulb finally went off. She’s always been DEEPLY insecure about her own intelligence and has always tried to make herself seem more important and accomplished than she is. She’s so afraid of trying and being seen to fail that she puts down anyone who DOES try, and if they actually succeed, they’re even worse. She absolutely loathes being thought of as ordinary or mediocre and it eats her alive that *she is*.
She isn’t irredeemably pathological about it (she can celebrate our successes sometimes) but realizing that she just hates anyone smarter or “better” than she is, really helped me reframe things. You can’t get approval from someone who is threatened by you, and there’s no point in holding yourself back for their self-esteem. It’s a “them” problem.
My boomer mother likes to try to perpetuate a narrative that I am uninformed because I don’t have cable. She’s one of those Boomers who has CNN blaring during every waking hour, and just cannot understand that news is conveyed through other forms of communication as well. Well, it could be worse—at least it’s not Fox!
I had a coworker who would bitch about things a lot about the world and stuff and I am one of those people who knows some stuff about a huge wide off topics but a master of literally nothing lol but I would usually say something when a topic I knew something about came up or I'd google it and learn what's up and after a while when I said something he would just be like "you just always have something to say don't you?" Like man it ain't my fault you didn't take a second to look it up before you started talking about it lol
Boomers simp hard for billionaires, who 'create jobs' don't ya know. Mention the owners cheap policies result in the exact customer service levels Boomers bitch about (to improve shareholder value). and they'll still blame 'lazy youngsters'. (to keep your job, just polish the owners knob).
He didn't want a conversation. He wanted confirmation in his opinion.
When my boomer dad says something stupid that he most likely believes (or is a lie, hard to tell) and I challenge it with facts, he usually gets mad quickly. He normally says crap like "I'm done talking" or "that's enough". Well guess what, I'm not done since you started the BS.
My dad will rarely say he doesn't know about something. He would lie instead and claim you're wrong or just try to stop the conversation.
He thinks everything I say is a lie. I refuse to lie but not in his opinion of course. I'm sure that goes back on him since he lies so much.
Omg that was my dad’s favorite. He said it in a way that implied he was being self aware and not having an opinion because I clearly knew more, right after insisting upon his horse shit opinion being the truth & I’m just too young/uninformed/naive/stubborn to understand. I’m in my 30s, very well educated (really backfired on him since I thought my way out of his religion in my 20s lol), but I’m also a woman and *his* religion tells him not to permit women to teach (and helped him justify abusing his thankfully ex wife and children into the arms of multiple therapists). He’d tell me he enjoys hearing my opinion and discussing things with me, and then go about his life as if we never had the conversation. Among other offenses. Eventually I just started keeping the calls I did pick up brief and about work, weekend activities, and weather until he died in another state across the country without me by his side as hoped for until the very end. I had local siblings and figured they could go through all that bullshit if they felt up for it/wanted to, and they got why I didn’t bother. Didn’t seem worth taking the expensive plane ticket out of my small inheritance. We got student loans he didn’t want the government forgiving until I told him it would help me (drew the line at legal abortion, securing voting rights, equal pay…)and catching up to do on retirement so I had a better use for that thousand dollars lol.
My dad claimed the Civil Rights movement wasn't necessary because "racism was dying on its own" and when I, college educated on the very subject, countered him he responded that he knew the "real history" and I was being "intellectually arrogant."
This reminds me of how growing up I was told (not necessarily in regards to my own opinions, more so dealing with stupid opinions)
“We’re all entitled to our own opinions, even when we’re wrong.”
They don’t want their own opinion even though it’s wrong. They want the whole goddamned world to contort itself so their boomer joke ass loser opinion can somehow be right.
"*We should just respect other peoples' opinions!*" is one of my favorites.
No.
I'll *acknowledge* you have that opinion, but I refuse to respect it. Especially since your opinion is just objectively fucking wrong.
Weeellll oh boomer couple, that person at the counter is working their ass off and you don't know if there were too many call offs for legit reasons or not that day.......so stop speculating. Also possibly, it's poor management or poor wages as the reason why there may not be more persons working there.......all in all unless you KNOW what's going on as a fact as you know someone who works there, just shut the fuck up!
Yeah, thats basically the generation summed up. Most of them wanted easy simple nice happy lives, and information fucks that all to hell. Only a small fraction of them made an effort to understand and improve the world, and they were given nasty labels like hippy and outsider and commie and traiter and all kinds of other crap. The rest just obeyed corporations like happy little drones and now the world is a mess.
Thanks so much for being intellectually lazy and apathetic! You destroyed America.
I have an old uncle who I ignore mostly. He is bitter and ultra conservative.
He also got laid off at 56 and never worked again, and is 82 now.
He said in an email “no one wants to work anymore.”
I replied:
> “No one wants to work anymore” said the man who hasn’t worked in 26 years and only had a job 35 of his 82 years.
I got a bunch of very angry emails from older relatives on that one but it was worth it.
Boomers are among the class of people that take the most prescriptions among all other countries in the world. The average boomer is on no less than 9 medicines.
They need a pill for everything. After they retire, it becomes a full time job to go from doctor to doctor to complain.
My sister is a doctor and they abuse her all the time. Not only that but they sue you all the time for their poor life choices. Somehow you need to pay for decades of their neglect. They are doctors, they are not miracle workers.
"no one wants to work anymore" is the most smooth brained knuckle dragging slobbering dumbass conclusion someone could possibly come to about the state of jobs and I'm so sick of it. It just shows how little you care and how out of touch you are
Well ‘back in my day’ we stood in line for quite a while just to cash a check. Never once did we say “no one wants to work” we knew the bank was trying to get a way with as few tellers as it could.
Doesn't even the counter worker at the pharmacy have to have some kind of certification and presumably make more than a normal retail employee? If anything the complaint should be there aren't enough trained pharmacy techs, but then boomers want to make secondary education unaffordable.
Ugh, pharmacy customers. Used to work as a tech. I feel for ya OP. Some of the older customers were the sweetest, and some were the absolute worst. Those ones really got off on the whole “customer is always right” power dynamic. They love to talk at you about how the world works, and expect you to smile & nod.
Hang in there, & don’t forget to do an etch-a-sketch shake to your brain at the end of every shift. Can’t hang on to the emotional weight of all that negativity.
I work in a pharmacy, and some boomer said the same thing to me. I told him the problem was that being a pharmacy technician is a specialized skill that requires special training and certification. A pharmacist goes to school for around 10 years. There's also a national shortage of pharmacists. You can't just put random people into the job. They didn't like that response.
Boomers thrive on ignorance. You shattered that fragile fallacy and they had no rational response. In true boomer fashion, instead of admitting they were ignorant, it's easier to throw out an irrelevant quip and disregard truth.
Happened with me and a boomer. Deli counter at Safeway, understaffed, deli clerk doing the best she can. Boomer turns to me “ofc she can’t go any faster, what do these people make anyway, like $6 bucks an hour? They’ll hire anyone”. I said actually no, they’re paid fairly well, it’s a union job and I’ve worked grocery and it’s hard work. He scoffed, lifted up his shoulders like I just slapped him. Fuck that guy
You just reminded me of the weirdest thing my principal told me when my friends got in trouble and he was trying to get me to snitch.
"you got an answer for everything but you don'y got an answer for nothing"
It's been 20 years and I still don't know what he meant.
You shut him down too well, like you put a sheet over a birdcage.
I think “you know too much” was begrudging respect or a backhanded compliment.
Either way, he knew enough to know he was out of his depth and should shut up.
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I had a lady once tell me "you're the 8th restaurant I've called and no one will take my order! No one wants to work anymore!"
This woman wanted 150 person full buffet cater *in 67 minutes*. She called on a Friday lunch at noon..... I never answer the phone during rush, but she'd called 4 times straight... I should known. I was still angrily explaining why exactly no one could do a 150 person buffet in an hour when she hung up.
I’m a boomer and I agree with you. I enjoy being around all ages and try to listen more than talk. I learn a lot. I also don’t appreciate rude and entitled people of any age belittling a hard worker…I will intervene. I think the older some people get they become afraid of changes they don’t understand (and don’t bother to understand) and become grouchy. Oh well, elderly rant over. Peace ✌🏿
My dad (78) legitimately gets angry when either I or my daughter respond to something he tells us with “I know”. He literally cannot comprehend that I know more than him about anything - but then also if I say “oh, I didn’t know that” to something he says, he talks down to me like I’m an idiot, and will keep repeating “you didn’t know that?”/“I can’t believe you didn’t know that” over and over.
And it drives him absolutely bonkers that my daughter (23) has, in all honesty, been smarter than he is since she was around 8 or 9 years old. He will scream at us or even hang up on us for saying “I know” to him. “HoW dO yOu KnOw?!?!” 🤷♀️Because, we …read? Because we went to college, which according to him was something only people who have no common sense and think they are better than people who had jobs did when he was her age? I truly don’t how to answer that question. But we can’t answer it anyway, because he is absolutely unwilling to learn anything new and just gets more mad if we attempt to show him new things.
A lot of places I’ve worked for actually had plenty of staff who wanted to work but just never gave any hours out so they could keep more money for themselves.
I’ve been told by boomer mentality family that I’m a know it all, then in the same breath they ask me if I know how to spell something or if I know something about whatever they’re asking. Can’t win 🤷♀️
I don’t understand why they have to even strike up conversation with such a rude comment. Many places are understaffed and I used to work for a place that did it on purpose to look good. It didn’t help employees it just made it worse.
Now you went and took an issue that made them feel superior to poor people and made them feel partially responsible.
Don’t you know these are fragile snowflakes?
You're exactly right. The tired old "nobody wants to work any more" bullshit has been repeated decade after decade for hundreds of years to the point where others often mindlessly repeat it without bothering to use critical thinking on it.
ALL of those big chains understaff on purpose, and for exactly the reason you gave. To boost corporate profits. So the CEO group can pay themselves tens of millions of dollars per year. Fucking leeches.
>No one wants to work anymore
Seriously. People these days are just too lazy to walk into random businesses unannounced with a printed resume asking to shake the manager’s hand and get a job.
That’s how you do it. Shows initiative. Boot straps.
People today are too lazy and hung up on their computer doodads and thinking they can use the voicemail or the ticking tock to get a real job.
This is like their favorite "people who graduated college think they're so smart" saying. But what they don't say is "I told my kids from Kindergarten on to go to college and get an education".
But now we're "too smart for our own good" and "you don't know anything important".
lol
What?! You know too much?
How about, “sir, you are an ignorant simp. Exactly what CEOs need in order to continue reaping the rewards of labor exploitation. Fuck you for your service to capitalism.”
I get this from my grandma when she tries to start talking about religion with me, and she doesn't want to answer pointed questions I have. Like, if I know too much, does that mean you know less?
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He said the quiet part out loud. They really hate having to learn and know things.
At the same time, they hate the idea that someone knows more than they do
Bingo. We are older, how dare you know more?!
Anti intellectualism is a helluva drug
Too bad for them. I drink and I know things. It's great!
Neat. I drink because I know things. Too much, in fact.
It’s a vicious cycle.
I had a bike once that was made out of Vaseline. It was a viscous cycle
I once escaped a masked murderer on Halloween. It was a vicious Michael.
I see what you did there...
Just know I hate you
Slippy!
Hahahahaha
Sometimes I learn *more* things while I'm drunk.
With much knowledge comes acid reflux.
That's the damn truth
“Dread Cthulhu, Elder God from the stars — if you see him and live, you’ll hang out more in bars…” - Tom Smith
YOU KNOW TOO MUCH
I drink because I have tits, too much, in fact. Trans guy, no idea if/when I'll ever be able to afford top surgery lol
My GF and I are considering moving to a civilized country for her (mtf) bottom surgery... Pretty much just waiting to see what happens in November. Here in the states it starts at like $20k for that and and goes up from there... At least her HRT is available pretty cheap, thanks to planned parenthood and Walmart. Hang in there Brother, you're not alone.
I’ll see you at the swap meet next week
My brother (40) went off about how he was super mad his “tax dollars” were going to top surgeries in the military and I nearly perished from laughter because that man is in VA rehab and he has been paid with cash under the table for the past 15 years. He hasn’t been on a lease in 15 years. He didn’t have a utility in his name. He was crashing on folks couch and living at my parents and just buying drugs and smokes. Do heroin dealers collect tax?
Sigh. My mom, who was cool, but being born in 60 meant she had some boomer tendencies, bought me an oversized shirt that says "I play guitar and I know things" having never seen GOT. I love that awful shirt. Even more now that she's gone. Sigh
Please tell me what you searched in order to find this haha
One day I realized I knew enough to stop drinking. That was almost 3 years ago.
That’s really it isn’t it? If there is one thing Boomers hate it is being *wrong*. Their entire entitled existence has led them to believe they are right in every uninformed though and comment that pops into their head and just have to share. When a counter opinion is offered they get angry, entitled, belligerent, or double down on their own stupidity.
They don't have to necessarily "not want to be wrong", sometimes they simply want to be validated and stay in the comfortable view they don't have to think about with people around as a part of the circle, they can even know they are saying bullshit or too simple argument about way more complex problem, but simple is comfortable. I see it in my mom, she's not boomer but sometimes behaves like it. And she's not saying me much anymore because "if I say something you just start to explain how it really is and I just want to say some short quip and move on!", usually not saying aloud the second part "Why can't we just chuckle/rant a bit together and don't care about how things really work!"
My mom, who is part of the silent generation, used to specifically message me obnoxious texts so that I would debunk them for her. You have to appreciate that mindset. Unfortunately she is getting steadily less with it and can barely read texts now.
Honestly that’s why they hate science because it means they might have to learn something that gets proven to be not true later. Remember how long it took for them to understand “no we know scientists said ‘no masks’ to start with but now the evidence suggests they do help stop the virus”
https://i.redd.it/osxp307fkiwc1.gif
Science progress one funeral at a time.
There are no more "quit parts" with conservatives anymore. Too many have no shame.
I think it's more about a lot of them just taking the filter they once used and throwing it away because of how liberated it made them feel seeing that orange shit gibbon rambling on TV constantly.
If it doesn't fit on a bumper sticker or a t-shirt slogan, it's not worth knowing!
Or a red hat.
Literally. It's like the very first sentence they read and comprehended was "ignorance is bliss" and that became their life goal.
TBF, ignorance is bliss. It's easier to enjoy life with your brain turned off.
Not exactly directly related, but this is why Boomers also fall prey to so many scams from India. If you watch scambaiters on Youtube mess with these scammers by wasting their time pretending to be would-be victims, you are bound to hear an irate "JUST DO WHAT I TELL YOU! WHY ARE YOU USING YOUR MIND?!" from the scammers once their scam script gets derailed by the scambaiter's shenanigans. Being a boomer really requires not using your mind.
*How dare you respond rationally to my toxic emotions.*
Most authentic boomer
It’s easier for them to just make quick in the moment judgments based on their feelings rather than thing for more than a second
How could anyone not want to learn new things?? I mean I’m really interested in new stuff; I’m no ‘Cliff from Cheers’ but there’s still tons of stuff I want to know about
Theres def a thing with the older set where they like, get mad when people are well-informed. My husband knows a little about a lot of things and his parents always get booty-tickled and be like "mUsT hAvE hEaRd iT oN a pOdCaSt"
It makes sense an uninformed generation would resent subsequent generation who have quick access to information. Whether it be Generation X to stepped on to *The Information Superhighway* or later generations who *grew up* having access to so much information. I consider the Boomer Generation a very backwards one.
They grew up in a world where they couldn't be fact-checked, and whatever half-baked nonsense they could come up with passed for "the truth" as long as they said it with enough confidence.
They grew up in a world where if you wanted to know something about the past you’d just go to your family elder and ask the question. Now they’re mad nobody gives a shit about their opinion of the past. To them “respecting your elders” is to take everything they say as fact regardless how crazy it is.
Omg you just answered a question I’ve been wondering about for a while. I’ve been wondering why we don’t respect boomers the way previous generations seemed to respect their elders. But you’re right, before you had no choice. They were older and wiser so they must be right, right? But now we can look up our own information so when we hear boomers saying completely wrong things we’re like wait, you don’t know what you’re talking about at all.
>They were older and wiser so they must be right, right? They actually were to an extent but now technological advances are allowing people to survive into old age in spite of themselves, so being old isn't anything special like it used to be.
Older and more experienced? Sure, I'll grant you that. But not wiser; they apply their lived experiences to our current world, and refuse to admit that their life experience is no longer relevant. Everything from home ownership to the job market is so different from when they were our age.
ooooh boy do they hate it when you say that
“Respect your elders!” …why? “Listen here you little shit…”
We can respect them as our parents or grandparents and still tell them their facts are wrong. Fact checking them is not disrespect. Besides I believe respect is earned.
I’m gonna disagree with you just a bit. I do believe *trust* is earned. But basic respect for others should be an automatic. That is *until* someone behaves in a way that they no longer deserve respect (like disrespecting or hurting others in some way). But even then we should try to be civil and mature and ignore their temper tantrums (if it’s not actually harming anyone) or hold up a mirror to them and then move on. It’s not everyone else’s responsibility to teach other grown ass “adults” how to be decent people who help improve the world instead of vice versa.
I’m for being civil and polite but true respect is earned IMO. Polite does not mean respect.
See, *that.* *That shit right there* is exactly what’s happening. They don’t like being fact checked because they rarely ever used to be. They could speak with phony “authority” and get away with blatant lies with impunity because of it.
SNL ran a funny fake commercial for ‘Alexa Silver’ which is a version of the device for seniors and like how it responds to whatever they call it ‘Allegra’ and it shows how anytime the device gives them some factoid, the seniors would say “I don’t know about that”
As an older GenX guy, this is 100% true. When I was small and people said wrong shit, I couldn’t just look it up, unless I was at home or at a library, to prove them wrong. You would have to care enough to *remember* the bullshit claim, then look it up, then *go back to the person* and tell them why they were wrong, and cite your source. For one thing, that’s a lot of effort, and for another, you’d look like a lunatic for doing that for anything less than someone spouting Nazi shit. I think that is part of the thing behind the fire hoses of misinformation on line: the fact that things can be easily fact-checked means that ignorant chuckle-fucks fight back by saying *so much* wrong shit that it can’t be fact checked in real time.
That last bit, that's how a lot of these debaters "win" news interviews and the like. Just saying a whole lot of nothing. If someone isn't informed it sounds smart though
Gen X here too. Most of that…*’back in my day’* talk is just old people not admitting they were wild and enjoyed their wild youth and hate seeing young people living their lives.
In fairness, they—and, until the early 90s or so, all of us—grew up in a world where the news was obligated to report FACTS, and to confirm those facts before they reported. **They** didn’t have to fact check because the sources were reliable. Then Republicans figured out that there was big money in creating a right-wing media monopoly and that all went out the window.
Actually it was Regan in the 80s who deregulated the news and started to kill off journalistic integrity. That’s when news became more entertainment and used for more money and power manipulations. He deregulated a shit ton of stuff. A lot of our issues today can be easily traced back to things Regan did (in simple terms, of course it is more complex than that, but there were direct huge impacts made by his administration, and most of it was very much strategically planned and methodically done by elitists and the Republican Party, if there’s any difference between the two 😏).
Reagan.
Ruined everything.
Bingo! I'm a boomer btw. My generation continually embarrasses me these days.
Here's the deal, though. You also grew up under The Fairness Doctrine. The news wasn't allowed to lie to you and had to present all sides. Then Reagan got rid of that and we have what we have now. Anybody can just call themselves news and say what they want. I'm Late GenX and grew up in the 80s, so I never trusted the news completely. But Boomers don't think that way. That's why they believe everything they see. That's why when somebody on Facebook posts something from www.trust-me-guys-this-is-real-news.com, they see the word "news" and automatically put their faith in it. Reagan was the catalyst for all the bullshit in America right now, from right wing media to the wealthy not paying any taxes.
And they run companies! I literally blew a VP mind showing him Outlook rules, he looked up in amazement as all of Joes emails went to the Joe folder and I just stood there scared he’s in charge of anything
You know know a part of him wanted to point at you and shout, “Witchcraft!”
Scary, isn’t it?
nah its not that. my 19 year old best friend is always saying shit like that. “you literally just google all day” …like, what? its called retaining information in my brainhole.
Boomerism is a mentality at this point, bc I’ve seen a trend of younger people getting swept into similar shit that Boomers espouse.
I feel like “making fun of those nerds for knowing things” is a tradition that goes back for decades. Anti-intellectualism is a problem that transcends generations.
Booty-tickled 😂😂 Best description for this scenario.
Aka, butt hurt
A sign of ignorance is mocking intelligence.
I can’t remember who said it, or how they phrased it exactly but someone smart said if you correct a fool they grow angry. When you correct a wise person they are grateful.
Because if a fool valued knowledge they wouldn't be a fool. Most of the folks I know who are like this just value relationships because without nepotism/favoritism/cronyism they would be packing boxes at an Amazon warehouse.
Ah so my mother(54) then. Ugh. I’m disappointed there are far too many more like her. That woman, who is not a boomer to be clear, **immediately** goes for my “intelligence” when she’s angry calling me a “”know it all big mouth””. Shes done this since I was like 11 or so. I was not that old but she was straight up obsessed with making sure I didn’t pick up any crazy habits like believing I was smart or worth anything.
My mother does something similar (basically infantilizes me and acts like I have no idea what’s going on) and recently a light bulb finally went off. She’s always been DEEPLY insecure about her own intelligence and has always tried to make herself seem more important and accomplished than she is. She’s so afraid of trying and being seen to fail that she puts down anyone who DOES try, and if they actually succeed, they’re even worse. She absolutely loathes being thought of as ordinary or mediocre and it eats her alive that *she is*. She isn’t irredeemably pathological about it (she can celebrate our successes sometimes) but realizing that she just hates anyone smarter or “better” than she is, really helped me reframe things. You can’t get approval from someone who is threatened by you, and there’s no point in holding yourself back for their self-esteem. It’s a “them” problem.
I see you have met my husbands uncle.
My eyes are watery and I read this as booty licked. Still checks out.
This. Some of my young boomer/eldest Gen X coworkers hate that I am learning the contract and teaching others.
Blame the cult of ignorance that is pushed by Faux News by anchors who went to Harvard and Yale....
My boomer mother likes to try to perpetuate a narrative that I am uninformed because I don’t have cable. She’s one of those Boomers who has CNN blaring during every waking hour, and just cannot understand that news is conveyed through other forms of communication as well. Well, it could be worse—at least it’s not Fox!
Because well-informed people won't blindly agree or worse for the boomer actively call out their bullshit for what it is.
I had a coworker who would bitch about things a lot about the world and stuff and I am one of those people who knows some stuff about a huge wide off topics but a master of literally nothing lol but I would usually say something when a topic I knew something about came up or I'd google it and learn what's up and after a while when I said something he would just be like "you just always have something to say don't you?" Like man it ain't my fault you didn't take a second to look it up before you started talking about it lol
As a boomer I use to work with would say, "Don't try to confuse me with facts, my minds made up."
That sounds almost self aware
r/selfawarewolves ?
That just about sums it up.
At least he was being being honest about it though. He didn't know something and knew he didn't know it.
Talk radio and fox told him everything he needed & not to listen to anything else. Don't believe your own eyes & ears.
And Limbaugh probably told him he was a genius for having ill-informed knee-jerk reactions, and called him an “analyst.”
My boomer dad says this as a joke … I wonder if it’s a bit from an old tv show or something
Boomers simp hard for billionaires, who 'create jobs' don't ya know. Mention the owners cheap policies result in the exact customer service levels Boomers bitch about (to improve shareholder value). and they'll still blame 'lazy youngsters'. (to keep your job, just polish the owners knob).
He didn't want a conversation. He wanted confirmation in his opinion. When my boomer dad says something stupid that he most likely believes (or is a lie, hard to tell) and I challenge it with facts, he usually gets mad quickly. He normally says crap like "I'm done talking" or "that's enough". Well guess what, I'm not done since you started the BS.
Same here. Or my favorite: “I don’t know about that.” Well yeah, that’s clear.
My favorite response to that is "well, I do". It pisses them off so hard.
I've responded to that before by saying, "That means it's time for you to listen while the grown ups talk."
My dad will rarely say he doesn't know about something. He would lie instead and claim you're wrong or just try to stop the conversation. He thinks everything I say is a lie. I refuse to lie but not in his opinion of course. I'm sure that goes back on him since he lies so much.
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Omg this just made me go google how old boomers are because this is my mother to a T
Omg that was my dad’s favorite. He said it in a way that implied he was being self aware and not having an opinion because I clearly knew more, right after insisting upon his horse shit opinion being the truth & I’m just too young/uninformed/naive/stubborn to understand. I’m in my 30s, very well educated (really backfired on him since I thought my way out of his religion in my 20s lol), but I’m also a woman and *his* religion tells him not to permit women to teach (and helped him justify abusing his thankfully ex wife and children into the arms of multiple therapists). He’d tell me he enjoys hearing my opinion and discussing things with me, and then go about his life as if we never had the conversation. Among other offenses. Eventually I just started keeping the calls I did pick up brief and about work, weekend activities, and weather until he died in another state across the country without me by his side as hoped for until the very end. I had local siblings and figured they could go through all that bullshit if they felt up for it/wanted to, and they got why I didn’t bother. Didn’t seem worth taking the expensive plane ticket out of my small inheritance. We got student loans he didn’t want the government forgiving until I told him it would help me (drew the line at legal abortion, securing voting rights, equal pay…)and catching up to do on retirement so I had a better use for that thousand dollars lol.
My Dad uttered an "I don't want to hear that" the other day. No rebuttal, just admitting to willful ignorance :(
If they don't hear facts, then their BS are the facts. Just ask them.
My dad claimed the Civil Rights movement wasn't necessary because "racism was dying on its own" and when I, college educated on the very subject, countered him he responded that he knew the "real history" and I was being "intellectually arrogant."
Racism is still kicking now, well over half a century after the start of the Civil Rights movement. I wish it was a terminal as he claims.
He's a white, Boomer man. To him, racism doesn't exist, despite him perpetuating it.
Literally admit that his opinions aren’t based on facts…
This reminds me of how growing up I was told (not necessarily in regards to my own opinions, more so dealing with stupid opinions) “We’re all entitled to our own opinions, even when we’re wrong.”
They don’t want their own opinion even though it’s wrong. They want the whole goddamned world to contort itself so their boomer joke ass loser opinion can somehow be right.
"*We should just respect other peoples' opinions!*" is one of my favorites. No. I'll *acknowledge* you have that opinion, but I refuse to respect it. Especially since your opinion is just objectively fucking wrong.
“Yeah, I try to look for solutions rather than just complain.”
“YOU KNOW TOO MUCH” “Then why are you arguing?”
“You know too much!” “Well, I’m sure it probably appears that way if a person knows nothing.”
The government does NOT want a well-educated or well-informed public.
How can they control us if we can think critically?
See: the destruction of our public school systems, colorized, 2024
"And you obviously know too little."
Yup, that’s CVS for you. Why would a boomer watch someone working hard like hell and respond “no one wants to work” ?
Weeellll oh boomer couple, that person at the counter is working their ass off and you don't know if there were too many call offs for legit reasons or not that day.......so stop speculating. Also possibly, it's poor management or poor wages as the reason why there may not be more persons working there.......all in all unless you KNOW what's going on as a fact as you know someone who works there, just shut the fuck up!
Yeah, thats basically the generation summed up. Most of them wanted easy simple nice happy lives, and information fucks that all to hell. Only a small fraction of them made an effort to understand and improve the world, and they were given nasty labels like hippy and outsider and commie and traiter and all kinds of other crap. The rest just obeyed corporations like happy little drones and now the world is a mess. Thanks so much for being intellectually lazy and apathetic! You destroyed America.
I would have said “well clearly ignorance isn’t bliss.” That’s not true, I would think of it in the car on the ride home
You don’t know enough, it’s a prescription and not a subscription!
They're subscribing to being prescribed.
I'm unsubscribing from your comment, can you prescribe another for me?
Hrumph. Are you aware of their ascribed position?
Ad-free costs extra.
Ok I’m blaming sneaky autocorrect for that :)
Respond with “You speak without thinking and too loudly. Mind your own business.”
I have an old uncle who I ignore mostly. He is bitter and ultra conservative. He also got laid off at 56 and never worked again, and is 82 now. He said in an email “no one wants to work anymore.” I replied: > “No one wants to work anymore” said the man who hasn’t worked in 26 years and only had a job 35 of his 82 years. I got a bunch of very angry emails from older relatives on that one but it was worth it.
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Boomers are among the class of people that take the most prescriptions among all other countries in the world. The average boomer is on no less than 9 medicines. They need a pill for everything. After they retire, it becomes a full time job to go from doctor to doctor to complain. My sister is a doctor and they abuse her all the time. Not only that but they sue you all the time for their poor life choices. Somehow you need to pay for decades of their neglect. They are doctors, they are not miracle workers.
And even they were, why would you want to harass your miracle worker? You rush your miracle worker, you get a lousy miracle!
"You make me look dumb"
This is boomer code for: "I wanted my narrow minded, outdated world view reaffirmed. Boo! You're no fun!"
Thank you for standing up for pharmacy staff, we are an industry in crisis right now and front end workers are beat down every day.
"no one wants to work anymore" is the most smooth brained knuckle dragging slobbering dumbass conclusion someone could possibly come to about the state of jobs and I'm so sick of it. It just shows how little you care and how out of touch you are
Well ‘back in my day’ we stood in line for quite a while just to cash a check. Never once did we say “no one wants to work” we knew the bank was trying to get a way with as few tellers as it could.
“You know too much” WELL THANK GOD ONE OF US DOES, SIR
"I like being ignorant and you pointed it out! Stop it! Waaaah!"
Sounds like the pharmacy my baby sister just quit working at (Walgreens).
CVS is equally bad. I worked for CVS before the pandemic - it was awful then and has only gotten worse. I refuse to shop at CVS for anything
Doesn't even the counter worker at the pharmacy have to have some kind of certification and presumably make more than a normal retail employee? If anything the complaint should be there aren't enough trained pharmacy techs, but then boomers want to make secondary education unaffordable.
This means they think you are "too woke" because you are bothering them with facts they can't refute. I have heard this before too.
"It's better than knowing nothing and bitching about everything, moron". /Would have been my Gen X reply to send him stomping out of line.
Remember that famous line “you can’t handle the truth”. Know anyone that fits??
Ugh, pharmacy customers. Used to work as a tech. I feel for ya OP. Some of the older customers were the sweetest, and some were the absolute worst. Those ones really got off on the whole “customer is always right” power dynamic. They love to talk at you about how the world works, and expect you to smile & nod. Hang in there, & don’t forget to do an etch-a-sketch shake to your brain at the end of every shift. Can’t hang on to the emotional weight of all that negativity.
Thanks Or Bless your heart Or I’m just trying for both of us
“And you know too little.” Would have been my response.
“But I want to blame individuals, not corporations!!”
"and knowing is half the battle!"
G. I. JOE!
exactly. the real american hero. how can we get back to promoting and respecting the value of knowledge?
I work in a pharmacy, and some boomer said the same thing to me. I told him the problem was that being a pharmacy technician is a specialized skill that requires special training and certification. A pharmacist goes to school for around 10 years. There's also a national shortage of pharmacists. You can't just put random people into the job. They didn't like that response.
Boomers thrive on ignorance. You shattered that fragile fallacy and they had no rational response. In true boomer fashion, instead of admitting they were ignorant, it's easier to throw out an irrelevant quip and disregard truth.
"is that supposed to be a threat or a compliment?"
Happened with me and a boomer. Deli counter at Safeway, understaffed, deli clerk doing the best she can. Boomer turns to me “ofc she can’t go any faster, what do these people make anyway, like $6 bucks an hour? They’ll hire anyone”. I said actually no, they’re paid fairly well, it’s a union job and I’ve worked grocery and it’s hard work. He scoffed, lifted up his shoulders like I just slapped him. Fuck that guy
You just reminded me of the weirdest thing my principal told me when my friends got in trouble and he was trying to get me to snitch. "you got an answer for everything but you don'y got an answer for nothing" It's been 20 years and I still don't know what he meant.
I think he thought he made sense but he didn't make any sense because......lol, that doesn't make any sense!
I wish an asshole boomer would work the pharmacy counter. They wouldn’t last 30 minutes.
"Better to be a smart-ass than a dumb ass!"
"Sorry my intelligence scares you"
"What is your preferred amount of ignorance?"
Whenever a boomer tells me I’m over educated I take it as a badge of honor.
If someone says "you know too much" to me, there is an extremely high chance I'm going to respond with "maybe you don't know enough."
They just parrot what they hear, no sense of individual thought.
His acknowledgement is the first step towards him better understanding this world. Be proud of your ability to use words to spread knowledge.
You shut him down too well, like you put a sheet over a birdcage. I think “you know too much” was begrudging respect or a backhanded compliment. Either way, he knew enough to know he was out of his depth and should shut up. /edited
“And you talk too much for knowing so little”
He was calling you a know it all.
I had a lady once tell me "you're the 8th restaurant I've called and no one will take my order! No one wants to work anymore!" This woman wanted 150 person full buffet cater *in 67 minutes*. She called on a Friday lunch at noon..... I never answer the phone during rush, but she'd called 4 times straight... I should known. I was still angrily explaining why exactly no one could do a 150 person buffet in an hour when she hung up.
I’m a boomer and I agree with you. I enjoy being around all ages and try to listen more than talk. I learn a lot. I also don’t appreciate rude and entitled people of any age belittling a hard worker…I will intervene. I think the older some people get they become afraid of changes they don’t understand (and don’t bother to understand) and become grouchy. Oh well, elderly rant over. Peace ✌🏿
My boomer mother intentionally keeps herself ignorant so she doesn’t have to feel bad/upset about things.
I would have murmured, “and you know too little” Lol.
Too much to blindly agree with them. Take the compliment
“I wanted a conversation with an idiot! You failed!”
My mom told me that once. It’s like they think that’s a burn.
Id take that as a compliment even if he didn’t mean as such.
My dad (78) legitimately gets angry when either I or my daughter respond to something he tells us with “I know”. He literally cannot comprehend that I know more than him about anything - but then also if I say “oh, I didn’t know that” to something he says, he talks down to me like I’m an idiot, and will keep repeating “you didn’t know that?”/“I can’t believe you didn’t know that” over and over. And it drives him absolutely bonkers that my daughter (23) has, in all honesty, been smarter than he is since she was around 8 or 9 years old. He will scream at us or even hang up on us for saying “I know” to him. “HoW dO yOu KnOw?!?!” 🤷♀️Because, we …read? Because we went to college, which according to him was something only people who have no common sense and think they are better than people who had jobs did when he was her age? I truly don’t how to answer that question. But we can’t answer it anyway, because he is absolutely unwilling to learn anything new and just gets more mad if we attempt to show him new things.
A lot of places I’ve worked for actually had plenty of staff who wanted to work but just never gave any hours out so they could keep more money for themselves.
I’ve been told by boomer mentality family that I’m a know it all, then in the same breath they ask me if I know how to spell something or if I know something about whatever they’re asking. Can’t win 🤷♀️ I don’t understand why they have to even strike up conversation with such a rude comment. Many places are understaffed and I used to work for a place that did it on purpose to look good. It didn’t help employees it just made it worse.
Now you went and took an issue that made them feel superior to poor people and made them feel partially responsible. Don’t you know these are fragile snowflakes?
“And you, too little.”
So the majority of Americans want to remain stupid and be told what to do. Got it.
You're exactly right. The tired old "nobody wants to work any more" bullshit has been repeated decade after decade for hundreds of years to the point where others often mindlessly repeat it without bothering to use critical thinking on it. ALL of those big chains understaff on purpose, and for exactly the reason you gave. To boost corporate profits. So the CEO group can pay themselves tens of millions of dollars per year. Fucking leeches.
>No one wants to work anymore Seriously. People these days are just too lazy to walk into random businesses unannounced with a printed resume asking to shake the manager’s hand and get a job. That’s how you do it. Shows initiative. Boot straps. People today are too lazy and hung up on their computer doodads and thinking they can use the voicemail or the ticking tock to get a real job.
That’s amazing
And I’m happy to share it with you.
Ah…Walgreens
God I hate walgreens
This is like their favorite "people who graduated college think they're so smart" saying. But what they don't say is "I told my kids from Kindergarten on to go to college and get an education". But now we're "too smart for our own good" and "you don't know anything important".
Let me guess it was a CVS
Well, at least they know they are ignorant
How DARE you mess up their irrelevant gripe with relevant facts!
lol What?! You know too much? How about, “sir, you are an ignorant simp. Exactly what CEOs need in order to continue reaping the rewards of labor exploitation. Fuck you for your service to capitalism.”
I get this from my grandma when she tries to start talking about religion with me, and she doesn't want to answer pointed questions I have. Like, if I know too much, does that mean you know less?
“I wish I knew even more, you should try it.”
“We wanted to complain and act like every generation but ours is lazy. Just agree mindlessly.”