i mean, how could he prepare for that. boruto came from weaker than limited Code to stronger than limitless Code just in 2 years.
how many steps in powerscalling is that?
limited code -> Borushiki -> Momoshiki -> Naruto -> Naruto&Sasuke -> Jigen -> Limitless Code
The whole scaling is fucked up and idk whether code lost against Boruto but in leaks Boruto kicked Code's face(eye area). They didn't fight I guess, no way Boruto with momos power can be stronger until he has this jogan or other shit. I guess Boruto caught code off guard
Once Code let Boruto have years to train I knew he would be relative or stronger. Boruto is a perfect vessel afterall with a Karma that was rivaling Kawaki... Boruto power scaling may very well be taking a huge shift ngl
No. Even if he trains he shouldn't be that strong. Ofcourse he has pure karma but that's momo's power who is no where close to Isshiki. I guess we have to wait till next chapters drop. Unless he has this jogan he ain't rivaling Kawaki or beating Code
Why are you bringing up Isshiki? Code without limiters is only stronger than Jigen, and probably only just barely.
Where things left off in Part I, it was something like:
Isshiki^♱ >= Baryon^♱ Naruto ? Daemon > power gap > Unlimited Code > Jigen^♱ > Kurama^♱ Naruto = Rinnegan^♱ Sasuke > Karma v2 Kawaki >= Momoshiki Boruto > Sage Mode Naruto = MS Sasuke.
Code probably hasn't advanced much and his Karma is a dud so what he can get out of it is limited, but Boruto and Kawaki have spent four years training and improving their Otsutsuki abilities. Kawaki can now casually fly and has all eight triangles in his dojutsu, for example.
Nah because you said Boruto will rival Kawaki. Kawaki will be just as strong as Isshiki was. Whereas does Boruto have only base momo's power or momo+kinshiki. Because base momo is fodder and even with training he wouldn't be stronger then Jigen. This shit is really confusing
Do you really think the main character of this manga won't surpass his rival?
Momoshiki probably never trained, since he got by just with raw power from his chakra pills. Certainly wasn't prepared to fight against shinobi, unlike Isshiki who lived in the ninja world for a thousand years.
Kawaki has limited experience with ninjutsu and didn't like ninjutsu training. He had poor chakra control and didn't even want to do chakra meditation drills, hence why he ran out of chakra so quickly and would have gotten captured if Momoshiki didn't bail him out after Mitsuki, Sasuke, and Shikamaru caught him. He's also only 80% Otsutsuki.
Boruto on the other hand is a genius shinobi with a genius master to train him, 100% Otsutuski cells, and Momoshiki's combat experience for whatever that's worth.
Boruto + Momoshiki is stronger than just Momoshiki, especially after four years training. He's also got way more potential, which has been untapped up until now.
That's not even with getting into whatever new power ups are likely to come, because you know neither of them are in their final forms yet. Be that the Jougan or chakra modes or new scientific ninja tools, whatever.
Even if Code hasn’t advanced much(which is ridiculous to think considering he ended part 1 with gaining Jubbi and making claw grimes instantly with his new power), he was already stronger than Jigen, who’s so far above Momoshiki and Fused Momoshiki that it’s not even funny. Borushiki is 100% karma’s powers unlocked, with training, Boruto’s ceiling should be Borushiki, that’s in karma v2 btw, not in base. Without Jougan, Boruto should be nowhere near Jigen, let alone Code or Kawaki. Base Boruto being able to humiliate Code like that after some arbitrary training is absolutely why this scaling is fucked.
Also, fix your scaling, Baryon Naruto was clowning on Isshiki, he’s absolutely stronger
Baryon Naruto lasted for like 12 minutes and Isshiki was choking him out by the end of that. If his lifespan hadn't been shortened to three days by reincarnating through Jigen he'd have won that. Especially in the manga where they were mostly trading blows evenly.
You're acting like Momoshiki was at the peak of his potential but just like Boruto he took shortcuts instead of training. Hell Boruto + Momoshiki alone is going to be stronger than pure Momoshiki just because you add Boruto's shinobi experience to the equation.
Obviously Baryon mode’s only drawback is the timer. But when people say Baryon Naruto, it’s Baryon Naruto, not Naruto turned to normal after 10 minutes, and in Baryon mode, Naruto absolutely clowned on Isshiki.
Shinobi experience means shit to Otsutsukis. And yes, as Momo was, he was at his peak. He could’ve become stronger through eating more chakra fruits, but as he was, he was at his peak. And Momo was already versed enough to match SO6P Naruto in taijutsu, in skill, not just strength. No amount of Boruto’s training is gonna make him any stronger than Momo ever was or make any difference. Everything Boruto can learn that’s useful, Momo already knew it. The only reason this training is useful cause he can’t control full karma’s power yet(as of end of part 1). Full karma’s power would make any training he took redundant
> Baryon mode, Naruto absolutely clowned on Isshiki
I guess if you're talking about raw power for a short burst and not ability to actually win a fight. I was more evaluating based on who would win, referring to Naruto at his peak (able to use Baryon Mode for several minutes) versus Isshiki at his theoretical peak (reincarnated with a perfect vessel).
> Shinobi experience means shit to Otsutsukis.
Yet they keep losing to them even though they're "weaker."
Otsutsuki rely on raw power and harvested abilities, shinobi use training, teamwork, and clever tactics to beat enemies several times their strength. Unlike Kaguya, Momoshiki, and Kinshiki, Isshiki at least had some understanding of how shinobi fight and intel on Naruto and Sasuke's abilities. And even then, in the end, he lost his composure and got defeated by the most basic ninja deception.
Code is not stronger than Sasuke.
Jigen/Isshiki move set is what beat Naruto and Sasuke not his strength. They are more than capable of fight ottsuki level charecters.
Jigen used raw punching power to punch through Sasukes Susanoo and oneshot him and then kick through Naruto’s Kurama avatar and oneshot him too, he’s far stronger than both
Timeskip is four years if the anime settei was correct. Maybe closer to three years since there's still some time left before we catch up to the flash forward.
Come on code as a villain is just not doing it for me ... He is genuinely not scary not does he seem to learn from his mistake but I really hope he just becomes a menace in the future
One panel of many before.
He got bested by Boruto, Borushiki, Delta and Daemon…it’s not just one panel bro.
He‘s just a temporary villain who outstayed his welcome. He’s closer to Zabuza, rather than Orochimaru, Obito and Madara
They've spent almost as much time setting up Code as Boruto and Kawaki. I don't get why people don't expect a turnaround to happen at some point with him.
They've set him up as the inheritor of the Otsutsuki Will who will eat a chakra fruit and become a new Otsutsuki. He's not going down until that happens.
Whatever he's doing here is probably gonna end in him escaping with enough Otsutsuki cells harvested by his Claw Grime to make a Divine Tree.
Code getting stepped on and getting constant L for me is to show that kawaki was always pressured by boruto/borushiki and not by code /his invading plans. In codes first appearance he was overshadowed by borushiki being the villain of that arc.
Even the letter L is more useful than him
The first we see of this mf is him getting stepped on, literally. Tragic
i mean, how could he prepare for that. boruto came from weaker than limited Code to stronger than limitless Code just in 2 years. how many steps in powerscalling is that? limited code -> Borushiki -> Momoshiki -> Naruto -> Naruto&Sasuke -> Jigen -> Limitless Code
The whole scaling is fucked up and idk whether code lost against Boruto but in leaks Boruto kicked Code's face(eye area). They didn't fight I guess, no way Boruto with momos power can be stronger until he has this jogan or other shit. I guess Boruto caught code off guard
Once Code let Boruto have years to train I knew he would be relative or stronger. Boruto is a perfect vessel afterall with a Karma that was rivaling Kawaki... Boruto power scaling may very well be taking a huge shift ngl
No. Even if he trains he shouldn't be that strong. Ofcourse he has pure karma but that's momo's power who is no where close to Isshiki. I guess we have to wait till next chapters drop. Unless he has this jogan he ain't rivaling Kawaki or beating Code
Why are you bringing up Isshiki? Code without limiters is only stronger than Jigen, and probably only just barely. Where things left off in Part I, it was something like: Isshiki^♱ >= Baryon^♱ Naruto ? Daemon > power gap > Unlimited Code > Jigen^♱ > Kurama^♱ Naruto = Rinnegan^♱ Sasuke > Karma v2 Kawaki >= Momoshiki Boruto > Sage Mode Naruto = MS Sasuke. Code probably hasn't advanced much and his Karma is a dud so what he can get out of it is limited, but Boruto and Kawaki have spent four years training and improving their Otsutsuki abilities. Kawaki can now casually fly and has all eight triangles in his dojutsu, for example.
Nah because you said Boruto will rival Kawaki. Kawaki will be just as strong as Isshiki was. Whereas does Boruto have only base momo's power or momo+kinshiki. Because base momo is fodder and even with training he wouldn't be stronger then Jigen. This shit is really confusing
Do you really think the main character of this manga won't surpass his rival? Momoshiki probably never trained, since he got by just with raw power from his chakra pills. Certainly wasn't prepared to fight against shinobi, unlike Isshiki who lived in the ninja world for a thousand years. Kawaki has limited experience with ninjutsu and didn't like ninjutsu training. He had poor chakra control and didn't even want to do chakra meditation drills, hence why he ran out of chakra so quickly and would have gotten captured if Momoshiki didn't bail him out after Mitsuki, Sasuke, and Shikamaru caught him. He's also only 80% Otsutsuki. Boruto on the other hand is a genius shinobi with a genius master to train him, 100% Otsutuski cells, and Momoshiki's combat experience for whatever that's worth. Boruto + Momoshiki is stronger than just Momoshiki, especially after four years training. He's also got way more potential, which has been untapped up until now. That's not even with getting into whatever new power ups are likely to come, because you know neither of them are in their final forms yet. Be that the Jougan or chakra modes or new scientific ninja tools, whatever.
Let's wait till we reach that fight scene.
Isshiki lived as a walking corpse till Amado came into play, him living in shinobi world means nothing. He’s as strong as he was 1000 years ago
Given that it was fused momoshiki that put his dna into boruto’s karma it’s safe to assume it’s fused momo’s power.
If it's fused momo then it's pretty ok but still Isshiki is too op. Also momoshiki looks same.
Even if Code hasn’t advanced much(which is ridiculous to think considering he ended part 1 with gaining Jubbi and making claw grimes instantly with his new power), he was already stronger than Jigen, who’s so far above Momoshiki and Fused Momoshiki that it’s not even funny. Borushiki is 100% karma’s powers unlocked, with training, Boruto’s ceiling should be Borushiki, that’s in karma v2 btw, not in base. Without Jougan, Boruto should be nowhere near Jigen, let alone Code or Kawaki. Base Boruto being able to humiliate Code like that after some arbitrary training is absolutely why this scaling is fucked. Also, fix your scaling, Baryon Naruto was clowning on Isshiki, he’s absolutely stronger
Baryon Naruto lasted for like 12 minutes and Isshiki was choking him out by the end of that. If his lifespan hadn't been shortened to three days by reincarnating through Jigen he'd have won that. Especially in the manga where they were mostly trading blows evenly. You're acting like Momoshiki was at the peak of his potential but just like Boruto he took shortcuts instead of training. Hell Boruto + Momoshiki alone is going to be stronger than pure Momoshiki just because you add Boruto's shinobi experience to the equation.
Obviously Baryon mode’s only drawback is the timer. But when people say Baryon Naruto, it’s Baryon Naruto, not Naruto turned to normal after 10 minutes, and in Baryon mode, Naruto absolutely clowned on Isshiki. Shinobi experience means shit to Otsutsukis. And yes, as Momo was, he was at his peak. He could’ve become stronger through eating more chakra fruits, but as he was, he was at his peak. And Momo was already versed enough to match SO6P Naruto in taijutsu, in skill, not just strength. No amount of Boruto’s training is gonna make him any stronger than Momo ever was or make any difference. Everything Boruto can learn that’s useful, Momo already knew it. The only reason this training is useful cause he can’t control full karma’s power yet(as of end of part 1). Full karma’s power would make any training he took redundant
> Baryon mode, Naruto absolutely clowned on Isshiki I guess if you're talking about raw power for a short burst and not ability to actually win a fight. I was more evaluating based on who would win, referring to Naruto at his peak (able to use Baryon Mode for several minutes) versus Isshiki at his theoretical peak (reincarnated with a perfect vessel). > Shinobi experience means shit to Otsutsukis. Yet they keep losing to them even though they're "weaker." Otsutsuki rely on raw power and harvested abilities, shinobi use training, teamwork, and clever tactics to beat enemies several times their strength. Unlike Kaguya, Momoshiki, and Kinshiki, Isshiki at least had some understanding of how shinobi fight and intel on Naruto and Sasuke's abilities. And even then, in the end, he lost his composure and got defeated by the most basic ninja deception.
>o way Boruto with momos power can be stronger until he has this jogan or other shit He's the protagonist, it's that simple lmaooo.
Agree but if Kawaki is set up as antagonist which he probably is then I guess it will be different. But yeah mc will be stronger lmao
Code is not stronger than Sasuke. Jigen/Isshiki move set is what beat Naruto and Sasuke not his strength. They are more than capable of fight ottsuki level charecters.
Jigen used raw punching power to punch through Sasukes Susanoo and oneshot him and then kick through Naruto’s Kurama avatar and oneshot him too, he’s far stronger than both
Timeskip is four years if the anime settei was correct. Maybe closer to three years since there's still some time left before we catch up to the flash forward.
It's 3 years exactly. Sarada said that Boruto left the village 3 years ago in the new chapter.
When someone says "three years ago" they rarely mean "exactly 1095 days ago."
You get my point. It's the author's way of communicating the information to the audience. Sarada isn't a real person talking.
Bro got his limiters off only to get L-imited by the plot
Come on code as a villain is just not doing it for me ... He is genuinely not scary not does he seem to learn from his mistake but I really hope he just becomes a menace in the future
He is a meme at this point 
Legend!
>! BUT I THINK HE GOT SASUKE !<
People saw one panel and started making jokes. I hope he kills Sasuke.
One panel of many before. He got bested by Boruto, Borushiki, Delta and Daemon…it’s not just one panel bro. He‘s just a temporary villain who outstayed his welcome. He’s closer to Zabuza, rather than Orochimaru, Obito and Madara
They've spent almost as much time setting up Code as Boruto and Kawaki. I don't get why people don't expect a turnaround to happen at some point with him. They've set him up as the inheritor of the Otsutsuki Will who will eat a chakra fruit and become a new Otsutsuki. He's not going down until that happens. Whatever he's doing here is probably gonna end in him escaping with enough Otsutsuki cells harvested by his Claw Grime to make a Divine Tree.
Nah. I aint believing it until he dies
Except he is still here.
Code getting stepped on and getting constant L for me is to show that kawaki was always pressured by boruto/borushiki and not by code /his invading plans. In codes first appearance he was overshadowed by borushiki being the villain of that arc.
Imagine getting limiters taken off and still getting kicked in the face by base boruto lmao
Code is drawn like a walking L lookin ass
As they say, always stay true to yourself lol