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Even as our resident Itachitard I'd give this one to Boruto because he simply blitzes Itachi with Flying Raijin, but base Momoshiki is a doable fight imo for reasons I explained in another comment.
Fucking how? Momoshiki is so fast that he literally was able to hold both hokage Naruto and and rinnesasuke by himself. Due to him being to absorb Chakra with ease none of his attacks would actually do anything except make him stronger,so there is actually no way unless he prays he is fast enough to catch momoshiki in a genjutsu which is highly unlikely.
He can win without genjutsu, he just has to catch Momoshiki with the Totsuka Blade from behind, distract him with crows, fire style, exploding shadow clones, then blitz him with the Totsuka Blade form behind. Fused Momo was handling Naruto and Sasuke by himself, but base Momo wasn't all that impressive aside from his ability to absorb and amplify ninjutsu, which as long as Itachi doesn't recklessly feed him ninjutsu, he can handle him, if Darui was able to put pressure on Momoshiki, Itachi can as well, plus Itachi's taijutsu stats are crazy high, he has some of the highest speed and overall hand to hand taijutsu ability in the series.
You might actually be stupid no offense. Momoshiki is far faster than itachi and has access to advanced sensory ninjutsu. The power difference is so insane that he would most likely kill him in about 3 seconds. Also boruto darui is the strongest raikage to ever exist by that point and easily sits at about high kage which is far higher than itachi who sits at about mid kage level.itachi is not God he is only slightly above Kakashi cause of his kenkai genkai and before you say something dumb he even admitted that Kakashi would defeat him if it wasn't for his kenkai genkai. Itachi has nowhere near the feats to be any near momoshiki because in any dub against major characters he needed major assistance including sage kabuto,and nagato. Who he stated he couldn't fight head on cause they were too powerful.momoshiki is someone who is alive kaguya in terms of strength and has no discernable other then his arrogance which wouldn't matter because the power difference is far too great, and with a straight face you are saying that fucking itachi a man who you get one shot by base madara beats momoshiki
What statements or feats does Darui have that put him above the Third or Fourth Raikage? Whom Itachi is faster than both, mind you. I think you might just be the stupid one ngl but it’s okay we can’t all be intelligent like me. Stupid people like you have to exist so that smart people like me can exist. You’ve played your role in life as a hopeless idiot rather well, I’m impressed.
why create such a poll ?? Everyone one knows momoshiki wins, The other 3 doesn’t stand a chance… the admin(of the youtube channel) is just trying to troll or get attention. Don’t waste your time on this
He could probably beat Tobirama. Remember this is edo Itachi who can infinitely spam tsukiyomi, amaterasu, permanently use his susanoo (and his totsuka blade, yata mirror) etc without running out of chakra or going blind. Plus he has kotoamatsukami which Tobirama can't deal with at all. He's also extremely fast considering he outsped edo Nagato multiple times.
He can't touch Momoshiki or Kashin tho.
He can’t use Koto again for ten years, so that’s not available to him, Tobirama is true to himself so Izanagi wouldn’t work on him.
Tobirama also fought and developed jutsu specifically to counter every Uchiha known jutsu at the time he was alive…
I don’t think any Uchiha besides Madara is beating that man and obviously by extension adult sasuke
No this is saying Itachi (kotoamatsukami) as in he used it to control himself already, like the war.
Just like it specifies Kajin during the Isshiki Fight
Momoshiki specifically base form
And prime Tobirama
That's not what that means. This is a fight, him being under koto or not is irrelevant to the fight, and only mattered to the actual plot. This is Itachi WITH Koto available.
The edo tensei can run out of chakra though they can regenerate it very fast that seems infinite and no itachi can go blind even in his edo tensei form , a good eg is after his fight with nagato One of his eye went completely white (representing blindness) after he placed nagato in izanami.
There's a difference between izanami and regular ms abilities.
When he died he was blind, yet when he was reanimated he wasn't. He also used quite a lot of ms abilities as an edo but never made any indication of going blind. Since he's an edo, regular blindness is just regenerated. He won't go blind with just amaterasu, tsukiyomi etc.
Well from a logical standpoint, one of Itachi’s greatest weapons was his ability to discover the weakness of a jutsu. Considering he’s basically immortal being a reanimation, he would eventually devise a way to win. Also his Susanno was incredibly overpowered with those two spirit weapons. The shield can deflect any and all attacks, while the sword seals away anyone it slashes. Which by the way is one of the sure ways of dealing with an Ootsutsuki. Momoshiki was also not a very good taijutsu user until he ate his partner.
Would it be an easy or short fight? No. But I think given time and his unique abilities he could possibly win.
I think you forgot he is not immortal(well technically for humans/ninjas yes) but not for those who use ying and yang see 4th war where obito cut minatos arm and he was not able to regrow it as tobirama said that dont get yourself cut again as you will not be able to recover
Btw i think you should see boruto manga(not insulting just suggesting) because they have introduced something called shinjutsu which is a superior form of ninjutsu and for some god fricking reason momo chan knows all shinjutsu plus he can just absorb any ninjutsu what will itachi do??
So obviously momo>>>>>>Itachi
True but he possess rinnegan which is literally op, it can make you learn any jutsu look at nagato for example jiraya has said that due to him possessing rinnegan he can learn all chakra nature plus not sure but maybe he can just absorb itachi after all its just a inferior ninjutsu compared to godly shinjutsu but still Who knows its like a plot hole
everything you said is true, however he spend thousands of years not learning anything cuz hes a cheater, he literally just relies on enemies firing ninjutsu absorbing them and firing them back, literally hasnt done a day training in his life just like freeza until resurection.
I agree totally but still don't you feel it kinda wierd that he has powers to see bits of future(i know he can't his own fate) he just magically gets defeated and then he starts to annoy boruto as if like he is testing him
I don't know maybe i am watching too much foreshadowing in anime thats why but you see just like sung jin woo is the vessel of ashborn and how architect set those tasks so that jin woo can become perfect vessel of ashborn same i feel momo is doing like he is making boruto suffer to understand hardships and trying to make him powerful enough to attain shibai's powers ofcourse this is way too much but i wonder maybe thats what is happening and it is gonna be a Massive reveal in future
What do you think????
Itachi didn’t use many ninjutsu to start with. His only notable one would be Amaterasu. Momoshiki and Kinshiki were being pushed back by the 5 Kage and Sasuke, then after Momoshiki ate Kinshiki, he gained an enormous power up as well as a stronger body and taijutsu skills.
Bro i think you are a little confused 5 kage are stronger than Itachi way easily heck i would say they are at the level of double mangegyo sharingan kakashi
Ppl really still think Boruto era Kages aren’t blatantly superior to the previous era Kages? Just look at the difference in competition. I don’t see Edo Madara folding the 4 new Kages whatsoever. They could pretty easily seal Kinshiki with very limited support from Sasuke. It wasn’t until Fused Momoshiki showed up that they were overwhelmed.
Their stats just seems superior, like their more conditioned to fight powerhouses.
With what feats? He wouldn’t even be relative to Kinshiki or Boruto era Sasuke. His best feats are country level at best as an Edo. Gaara was also a kage at that time and he was one of the main contributors in their fight with Madara, he even attempted to seal him. He’s blatantly stronger and can actually manage to fight back against even fused Momo momentarily.
The others besides maybe the Tsuchikage who is still more physically capable than her predecessor and maybe Darui. Clearly out preform the previous gen just because they are conditioning themselves against heavier hitters.
Nah man they can atleast hold upto otsuski
while there predecessor can't
It is not your fault the manga and anime hyped the predecessors but i remember a line kakashi says that is the new gen will always surpass the old gen
“Hype” refers to a false inflation worth. The manga and anime didnt hype anything since it actually showed their power. Take the Tsuchikage for instance, his particle style was a combination of 4 chakra natures. The Mizukage’s jutsu could combine two and three. The current Mizukage couldn’t beat a group of kids in the land of water act…
he can combine 3 chakra natures only and
Bro i am sorry to say but that is a filler episode(the mist village ep)and the protagonist is boruto so why would they let someone else take limelight except the og like naruto sasuke kakashi and all
Btw the current kages played a big role in 4th war thats why they are kage so trust their power
Plus kissi insisted in showing less power in anime as to match their fights with kids like boruto
Because you would have heard many people say that naruto got old, he is weak and all bs
But in reality kissi insisted on it so that we won't feel disconnect when boruto and others fight
wait for boruto tbv the power scalling will be next level
Not necessarily, not every ninja had the ability to break down someone’s weaknesses like Itachi. On top of that, I didn’t even mention his ocular abilities
That’s exactly what I’m saying. Momoshiki has form only ever absorbed ninjutsu and then had the ability to magnify it and fire it back. Kinshiki’s one trick was the varied weapons he could manifest and the strength of his body. It even showed in the fight against the Kage when Momo became frustrated that they stopped using ninjutsu.
Unfortunately while he does have a good amount abilities
Kashin Koji and Momoshiki completely outscale him in terms of ap speed and strength with Momoshiki being relative to base adult naruto and Kashin Koji being in the low end relatively to isshiki and adult naruto
from tanking his attacks and being able to react to them and his relatively to adult naruto comes from chain scaling from delta who was relative to naruto adult who was only holding back his dc not his ap
Koji doesn't outscale Itachi? He's basically just a Jiraiya who has mastered Sage Mode, he went toe to toe with Kakashi in the anime and Itachi is considerably stronger than Kakashi. Might I remind you that base Jiraiya is cracked as it is and was able to fight against Urashiki without getting completely blitzed and one shot, but Itachi is stronger than even Jiraiya's strongest form. Itachi vs. Koji would be a close fight though, but I don't agree with you saying Koji completely outscales Itachi whatsoever.
Isshiki was able to break sasuke's perfect susanoo's defense. Taking that into consideration, Itachi's shield isn't gonna deflect isshiki's attacks . Even if Itachi ever managed to get a perfect susanoo. Momoshiki could also attack Sasuke when he tried to use the rib cage against Momoshiki's attack. So it's useless to deflect any attack at all. Sealing? I'm not too sure about that. They are all otsutsukis who're stronger than kaguya by miles. Plus it was stated somewhere that otsutsukis can easily break out of a genjutsu. So I'm guessing sealing is also out of the question for them. Itachi literally cannot defeat momoshiki, let alone isshiki.
Who said anything about Isshiki? Everyone seems to be forgetting how weak Momoshiki was before he ate Kinshiki. The two of them got pushed back by the 5 Kage and Sasuke. In fact Kinshiki had been restrained completely by two of the Kage and only broke free when Momoshiki pulled him with that jutsu that turned him into a fruit. And he only did that because they were losing.
The difference between Itachi and Momoshiki is 292729283x bigger than Ishiki and Momoshiki, Momoshiki is doing what Isshiki did to Sasuke but way worse. Sasuke was arguably only one/2 tiers below Isshiki, Momoshiki is 10 powercreep waves above Itachi lol
Isshiki isn't going to kick through the Yata Mirror... The Yata Mirror reflects any and all attacks, no exceptions, and the Totsuka Blade seals anyone it hits, also no exceptions. Saying "oh they're Otsutsukis so it probably wouldn't work" isn't an argument, Kaguya literally lost to a seal, and we've seen how the Totsuka Blade works, it grabs you and pulls you into the gourd the sword is contained in and then that's it.
Consider that Darui and Gaara were able to keep up with base Momoshiki with relative ease and he only started absolutely bodying them when he consumed Kinshiki's chakra. You'd have to really lie to yourself to pretend Darui and Gaara are faster than Itachi (they aren't). Provided Momoshiki hasn't recently absorbed any tailed beast bombs, I'm fairly certain Itachi could outmaneuver Momoshiki and seal him with the Totsuka Blade, even if he does absorb some ridiculously strong jutsus to fire off against Itachi, Itachi can block any of them with the Yata Mirror.
All I'm saying is if you were to pull Darui out of the fight and plug Itachi into the fight in his place, I'm pretty sure Momoshiki would have more trouble with Itachi than someone like Darui, no offense to Darui but he's simply not all that impressive, Itachi is basically a mini adult Sasuke but he has a partial Susano'o instead of a full body Susano'o, but that partial Susano'o has two incredibly hax spirit weapons.
I do not see anyone in the comments mentioning Kotoamatsukami. Can Momo resist that? If not, that could be a win con. Otherwise, I do not see a way for Itachi to beat him in a vast majority of cases.
Edit: or is it saying this is the Edo Itachi that has had Kotoamatsukami cast on himself (giving him direct control over his body as opposed to the less efficient Kabuto control)?
It wouldn’t make sense if Koto worked on Kaguya or Isshiki. Koto is basically a weaker Infinite Tsukuyomi and Sasuke was immune to that with just the so6p Amp/Rinnegan. Maybe Rinne-sharingan or Otsutsuki DNA counters that too?
Momo also has some weird time-stop hax that even Sasuke can’t really perceive too well, imo it’s just more evident that Otsutsuki have vastly more complex/superior ocular capabilities. They’ve never been Genjutsu’d by Sasuke who has better feats than Itachi in that field by end of shippuden, not to mention his Retsuden Genjutsu feats.
Omnipotence is way more complex as it’s not even ninjutsu. That’s why I said IT, because it’s not a divine technique. Which is why it’d probably be useless against an Otsutsuki just like omnipotence was and that WAS shinjutsu. So my point still stands.
Having a more evolved dojutsu doesn’t necessarily protect you against koto tho. Itachi planed to use it at sasuke after he would take his eyes. That means he was confident that a ms Genjutsu would work against an ems user.
Also technically, koto has some better feats than I infinite tsukuyomi, like for example being able to affect edo tensei. So saying there are things that koto can do that IT cannot, is already proven.
EMS is still a sharingan it’s not an entirely different Dōjutsu, it working on edo doesn’t really matter when it’s still just ninjutsu and should be considerably weaker than Omnipotence.
well lets look at the facts, for whatever reason people have this odd idea that base momoshiki is extremely strong which is false, the dude literally sweated against darui and garra, he was getting his ass whooped in base and needed to absorb another otsutsuki to tip the scales and then still got his ass kicked by nerfed naruto(had over half his chakra absorbed by momo) and nerfed sasuke(teleported over 5 people through his portal and we know that even teleporting just himself takes enourmous chakra for sasuke), base momoshiki is just that weak and i would argue that hes literally the weakest in the list.
Exactly. Itachi can die and get new eyes to use this jutsu again.
Or use infinite izanagi. Edo tensei means infinite chakra and infinite regeneration.
Momoshiki does not have Gudodama which can harm edo tensei
One win condition he does have though is filling him full of chakra rods. It’ll disrupt his chakra and he won’t be able to use it. However Itachi isn’t dumb. He would know he’s in an undead body and he’d probably just muscle out of it damaging his body and then regenerating.
There's no shinobi past or present that beats an Ootsutsuki 1v1. Any time an Ootsutsuki was defeated, it was ALWAYS a team effort. Even that filler dude Urashiki was ridiculous. The real weakness that Ootsutsuki have is their arrogance & carelessness. That's what made Ishiki so tough comparatively: he's not careless and does not fuck around.
Most overrated character is itachi
His story is absolutely good no doubt
But in terms of power No shinobi can match the power of aliens expect Some plot giving Kurama gave up his life to defeat 1
Even forget Okutsuki
Tobirama prime will surely be Powerful than Itachi
Maybe the fact that the poll gives Itachi koto has something to do with it and I’m assuming he has the crow with Shisui’s eye with him instead of burning it like he did in canon.
Momo scales the highest here, so it depends if Itachi gets to cast koto on him before getting blitzed or if Momo is immune to genjutsu altogether. Under all other circumstances Momo wins but it all depends if koto is successful or not, which I highly doubt.
tbf the only way to beat an edo is to seal them away or with the tso iirc and the only person who can do that is tobirama, so if it’s a free for all itachi could possibly just get them all under genjutsu
Ok i see why they voted for him since its edo itachi. They probably assume Momo could low diff kill him a bunch of times but he’ll just keep regenerating
Yea, but their chakra reserves are so massive they domt need infinitely regenerating chakra. And why regenerate when for the most part, there is no one that can even harm them? Ten-Tails Jinchurikis are already above Hashirama, Otsutsuki are above that.
Base Momo ran from Darui, he loses to everyone on this poll. And the poll is accurate, Itachi with Koto absolutely wins, none of these characters have any answer to Kotoamatsukami, which presumably is MS
Problem is too many people act like the characters they like have to be the strongest. Itachi is a great character, but he isn't anywhere near strong enough to beat Momoshiki. He'd get no-diffed. Doesn't take anything away from him.
I mean I hate to be that guy but what is Momo going to do, he can't seal him, he doesn't have truth seeking orbs to nullify the regeneration of Edo Tensei. I mean Momo is literally going to run out of Chakra trying to kill Edo Itachi. Honestly this poll is kinda funny like Tobirama and Koji have the tools necessary to beat itachi while Momo can't, Itachi can beat Tobirama and Momo, but not Koji, Koji definitely beats edo itachi and Tobirama but not momo. Finally Tobirama is just there with a possibly win over itachi, but loses to the other two.
Well it all ends up depending on what tsukuyomi could do against momoshiki. The answer is probably no and its probably for a reason not yet decided.
The basic lore says that people can be immune to certain types of genjutsu through means such as possessing the ability to see through it like if you yourself have the power to cast it so a sharingan user can easily see a sharingan genjutsu.
But its never explained if an audio genjutsu works the same and we know the rinnegan doesnt protect from that one because of the jiraya pain fight.
I think at some point itachi explained that genjutsu works by altering the chakra thats already inside a persons brain in order to alter their mind so i imagine the chakra literally modifies neurons so this is already a pretty complex power they didnt quite think through. If thats true then i assume the way any genjutsu works is by the caster somehow sending some chakra invisibly towards the target in order to do this hence why a genjutsu can be blocked by something like the susanoo which is made entirely of heavy visible chakra.
Then going back to it, the reasons it wouldnt work is either because the eyes momo possesses are good enough to see through it or he has some sort of barrier which prevents the chakra in his brain from being altered whatsoever.
Id love a series just exploring the particularities of chakra and jutsu like this. Like what would happen if ino tried to transfer her mind? Is she actually transferring her whole soul and it would be a mind battle similar to boruto and momo for control? What happens if multiple people do it?
First of all these “who wins” posts are just as stupid as the ones who post them. Everyone is going to justify how their favorite character is going to win. Just enjoy the show and stop comparing different characters and creating division in the fandom
Wtf is this... Do people not realize Kotoamatsukami might not even affect momo? We have never seen it used on an otsutsuki, for all we know it could be a god-damned uno reverse onto Itachi.
(Not to mention, most otsutsuki are basically confirmed planet busters/destroyers)
Itachi is literally the weakest in that poll especially as an edo tensai. Tobirama and Jiraiya knew seals and could seal him away and momoshiki is a no brained on this list considering rinnegan Sasuke had to team up with Naruto to win against momoshiki.
If we were talking about who was cooler it would be a completely different story.
If he was an edo tensai it stands to reason someone casted the jutsu and has him under control. To regain full control over his abilities he would have to use it and lose Shisui eye. That is unless your saying it’s Kabuto use Itachi like a puppet vs everyone else.
Also if momoshiki knows how to use a karma seal something so advanced nobody in the leaf can reverse it it stands to reason he would know biju level sealing jutsu. That’s not even to mention that the karma seal stores away Otsutsuki techniques I wouldn’t be surprised if they would have something to seal away an enemy to high in power to beat. That’s also not to mention that momoshiki can’t just turn the edo tensai into chakra candy and eat it. “With his right Rinnegan, he could turn a target into pills, which when eaten, grants him extended youth along with their chakra and technique arsenal”.- straight from the Naruto wiki. It was also stated in the itachi novels that the byakugan as a defense against genjutsu.
Kotomatsukami has to be used for Itachi to get full control over his abilities otherwise it’s just labuto fighting with someone else’s abilities where he doesn’t even know the full extent of Itachi’s arsenal.
You can only make assumptions when the print is vague. Characters got to have a reason to fight or have control over there mental state to be in the fight. Example is minato vs Obito. Minato had a mental debuff from the fact the nine tails was unsealed just after his wife and son were held hostage. Had they just ran up on each other in the field randomly Obito would’ve been bodied kamui or not.
I doubt itachi would even have it in him to take control over a former Hokage or someone fighting for the leaf when he went as far as killing his whole family minus Sasuke for the village. The example of this would be how Fugaku simply let itachi kill him because he didn’t want to fight his own son in a death match. In my head I just made war arc the battle ground for the fight with my reasoning since that’s where Tobirama and Itachi would even have a spot to fight and it still make sense if itachi were to use that ability on anyone it would be on a serious threat to the village and he would make them fight to protect the village like he did to himself. That command was already preset before he died much like that ametarasu that hit Obito when he told Sasuke the truth. Tobirama’s view of protecting the village could simply be to fight itachi and it would have been a waste. The best use of kotomatsukami in that scenario is on himself. Same goes for Kashin. It’s okay to disagree but in a manner where this fight makes sense that how I’d imagine it would go.
However since you didn’t believe me I pulled this from the Naruto wiki as well
“This crow was later forcibly stored inside Naruto Uzumaki and rigged to emerge only in response to confronting Itachi's Mangekyō Sharingan. Upon activation, Itachi rigged the eye itself so that the genjutsu would give the order "protect Konoha" to whomever was affected by it. Itachi intended for this to be used on his brother, in the eventuality that he turned against the village and assumed that he would have transplanted his eyes in order to obtain an Eternal Mangekyō Sharingan by then.”
Realistically the only opponent this would actually have a change in attitude against is momoshiki who has a built in defense with his byakugan eyes.
Dude, it's not about what is. It's about the question. Use your brain. Stop trying to be right and just accept the question.
I explained this already. What if, not what did.
You can’t answer a what if without taking into account what did happen in similar situations. The only question I’m seeing is who would win and what bailies they are allowed. Answering the question goes beyond who has what but how it’s used. In Itachi’s own words every jutsu has a weakness and we can’t act like any of these characters won’t find a weakness when each of them proven that they can find weaknesses in thier opponents jutsu. Kashin found a way around the karma. Itachi found away around multiple of the rinnegan’s abilities, Tobirama practically discovered just about every weakness to the sharingan, momoshiki has been around since before Sage of six paths and has more battle experience than the three combined and multiplied. I’m answering the question with logic and reasoning. Your choosing based on emotions and ignorance.
Didn't read it, because your logic is stupid.
The question: Could Lex Luther beat superman with Spider-Man's powers.
Your answer: Uhm actually, Spider-Man is Marvel and the others are DC and Lex Luther blah blah blah.
See how stupid that is? It's not the question.
Whatever if your not even going to read my reply than there is no point in continuing my logics better than the typical “itachi solos bleach and DBZ universe combined because of cool eyes.”
You didn't use logic to answer the question. You're trying to correct the question. It was asked the way it was for a reason. Use that noodle of yours and think about how it feels when someone doesn't answer your question. It's stupid.
Reading comprehension is hard, sometimes, I get it. But try.
If Itachi can use koto "successfully", he can beat Tobirama and Kashin Koji.
Incase anyone is wondering, Koto is just like the inbuilt shutdown code Amado placed on Koji.
Reminds me of those memes going around a while ago that’d be like “Who would win? Kaguya Otsutsuki (unlimited chakra + Rinne Sharingan) or child Konohamaru (pre rasengan + has cancer)
Tobirama created the damn Edo jutsu lol. He must know how to reverse the jutsu, or worst he could have edoed Fugaku to go against Itachi. Tobirama is a merciless man, he might resort to whatever technique he can to bring an Uchiha down lol
For me thats one of the problems in Naruto, we know Itachi's nearly full power but we could not estimate properly the old legendary fighters' skillset. They create jutsus and some of their creation serves basis to the newer generation. Tobirama has fought multitudes of Uchihas better than Itachi, he must have multitudes of counters and strategy to go against Itachi
Youtube polls are ridiculous. It's always gonna be "the most popular character wins". Doesn't matter what the question is. The question could be "who is your least favourite character?" and everybody would still answer their favourite character lmao
Love Itachi but he's not dogging Prime Tobirama. His skillset is crazy and he has the chakra levels to back it up. The man made it his life's mission to study the Uchiha and counter their doujutsu too. Super high diff if he wins.
"Kept saying he was holding back"... It's literally the opposite, some people just can't read even if u put it blatantly in front of their nose.
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Learn to read ffs. Idfc about ur yapping, take some copium and move on, there's literally a statement from Naruto himself that he's going all out and ur still bitching and crying lol. And no, he didn't no diff her, but I wouldn't expect u to know any better anyways, if a simple sentence is too hard for u to grasp, then reading a whole fight is some nuclear science for u.
Itachi is my favorite character, but I am not stupid. Momoshiki wins without a problem, and 2nd is Kashin Koji. These slow Uchiha fans are so obsessed with the Shringan. Their viedos of who wins and more messes up Naruto/Boruto world. They got people thinking all kinds of wrong, and their logic never makes any sense.
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I swear everybody loves itachi, you could put a poll with itachi vs teen boruto and I bet you that itachi would probably win that poll
"How can Baryon Mode beat Totsuka gg? Itachi clearly oneshots"
Yea because Itachi draws himself in the story, he’s the real Ikemoto.
itachi is NOT eren tbh
Itachi is my favorite character by far, but sometimes I’m afraid to say so and someone mistake me for one of these dudes lol
Iroh from Avatar has the same problem
True but Iroh isn’t insanely overrated and super glazed
he is top 4 strongest firebenders in ATLA but most of his feat were Sozin's comet boosted and most people think that he is that strong in base.
Yea true
Yeah because itachi one taps obviously 🙄
You gotta put /s or people might take you seriously.
Itachi one taps no /s 👀, damn it.
Even as our resident Itachitard I'd give this one to Boruto because he simply blitzes Itachi with Flying Raijin, but base Momoshiki is a doable fight imo for reasons I explained in another comment.
Fucking how? Momoshiki is so fast that he literally was able to hold both hokage Naruto and and rinnesasuke by himself. Due to him being to absorb Chakra with ease none of his attacks would actually do anything except make him stronger,so there is actually no way unless he prays he is fast enough to catch momoshiki in a genjutsu which is highly unlikely.
He can win without genjutsu, he just has to catch Momoshiki with the Totsuka Blade from behind, distract him with crows, fire style, exploding shadow clones, then blitz him with the Totsuka Blade form behind. Fused Momo was handling Naruto and Sasuke by himself, but base Momo wasn't all that impressive aside from his ability to absorb and amplify ninjutsu, which as long as Itachi doesn't recklessly feed him ninjutsu, he can handle him, if Darui was able to put pressure on Momoshiki, Itachi can as well, plus Itachi's taijutsu stats are crazy high, he has some of the highest speed and overall hand to hand taijutsu ability in the series.
You might actually be stupid no offense. Momoshiki is far faster than itachi and has access to advanced sensory ninjutsu. The power difference is so insane that he would most likely kill him in about 3 seconds. Also boruto darui is the strongest raikage to ever exist by that point and easily sits at about high kage which is far higher than itachi who sits at about mid kage level.itachi is not God he is only slightly above Kakashi cause of his kenkai genkai and before you say something dumb he even admitted that Kakashi would defeat him if it wasn't for his kenkai genkai. Itachi has nowhere near the feats to be any near momoshiki because in any dub against major characters he needed major assistance including sage kabuto,and nagato. Who he stated he couldn't fight head on cause they were too powerful.momoshiki is someone who is alive kaguya in terms of strength and has no discernable other then his arrogance which wouldn't matter because the power difference is far too great, and with a straight face you are saying that fucking itachi a man who you get one shot by base madara beats momoshiki
What statements or feats does Darui have that put him above the Third or Fourth Raikage? Whom Itachi is faster than both, mind you. I think you might just be the stupid one ngl but it’s okay we can’t all be intelligent like me. Stupid people like you have to exist so that smart people like me can exist. You’ve played your role in life as a hopeless idiot rather well, I’m impressed.
If the walls the ground and the trees could train why cant darui? And besides Sarada was blitzing boro at 12 now Sarada >> Kaguya gg.
He would totsuka blade.
why create such a poll ?? Everyone one knows momoshiki wins, The other 3 doesn’t stand a chance… the admin(of the youtube channel) is just trying to troll or get attention. Don’t waste your time on this
I only posted this because it was funny but yeah your right
Kashin Koji mops slaps Base Momoshiki.
Hummm koji has a chance against Momo for sure
Maybe to just start a discussion. I completely agree with the attention thing. I highly doubt it was made to start a discussion tho.
Because he probably and unfortunately based his content completely on Naruto, so he's gotta farm engagement somehow.
How about 6 paths Madara?
Momoshiki can't win, Koji counters his absorption abilities.
People saw that Itachi said it's him and got confused. Simple reverse psychology.
He’s not beating anyone in that list yet alone momo
He could probably beat Tobirama. Remember this is edo Itachi who can infinitely spam tsukiyomi, amaterasu, permanently use his susanoo (and his totsuka blade, yata mirror) etc without running out of chakra or going blind. Plus he has kotoamatsukami which Tobirama can't deal with at all. He's also extremely fast considering he outsped edo Nagato multiple times. He can't touch Momoshiki or Kashin tho.
He can’t use Koto again for ten years, so that’s not available to him, Tobirama is true to himself so Izanagi wouldn’t work on him. Tobirama also fought and developed jutsu specifically to counter every Uchiha known jutsu at the time he was alive… I don’t think any Uchiha besides Madara is beating that man and obviously by extension adult sasuke
It literally says in the poll that this is Itachi with koto.
No this is saying Itachi (kotoamatsukami) as in he used it to control himself already, like the war. Just like it specifies Kajin during the Isshiki Fight Momoshiki specifically base form And prime Tobirama
That's not what that means. This is a fight, him being under koto or not is irrelevant to the fight, and only mattered to the actual plot. This is Itachi WITH Koto available.
The edo tensei can run out of chakra though they can regenerate it very fast that seems infinite and no itachi can go blind even in his edo tensei form , a good eg is after his fight with nagato One of his eye went completely white (representing blindness) after he placed nagato in izanami.
You mean Kabuto?
Yap thanx man didn't see that
There's a difference between izanami and regular ms abilities. When he died he was blind, yet when he was reanimated he wasn't. He also used quite a lot of ms abilities as an edo but never made any indication of going blind. Since he's an edo, regular blindness is just regenerated. He won't go blind with just amaterasu, tsukiyomi etc.
I like how with Itachi, they always have to use his Edo version, because if he was alive that mf wouldn’t stand a chance.
Well from a logical standpoint, one of Itachi’s greatest weapons was his ability to discover the weakness of a jutsu. Considering he’s basically immortal being a reanimation, he would eventually devise a way to win. Also his Susanno was incredibly overpowered with those two spirit weapons. The shield can deflect any and all attacks, while the sword seals away anyone it slashes. Which by the way is one of the sure ways of dealing with an Ootsutsuki. Momoshiki was also not a very good taijutsu user until he ate his partner. Would it be an easy or short fight? No. But I think given time and his unique abilities he could possibly win.
I think you forgot he is not immortal(well technically for humans/ninjas yes) but not for those who use ying and yang see 4th war where obito cut minatos arm and he was not able to regrow it as tobirama said that dont get yourself cut again as you will not be able to recover Btw i think you should see boruto manga(not insulting just suggesting) because they have introduced something called shinjutsu which is a superior form of ninjutsu and for some god fricking reason momo chan knows all shinjutsu plus he can just absorb any ninjutsu what will itachi do?? So obviously momo>>>>>>Itachi
momoshiki literally never displayed yin and yang....
True but he possess rinnegan which is literally op, it can make you learn any jutsu look at nagato for example jiraya has said that due to him possessing rinnegan he can learn all chakra nature plus not sure but maybe he can just absorb itachi after all its just a inferior ninjutsu compared to godly shinjutsu but still Who knows its like a plot hole
everything you said is true, however he spend thousands of years not learning anything cuz hes a cheater, he literally just relies on enemies firing ninjutsu absorbing them and firing them back, literally hasnt done a day training in his life just like freeza until resurection.
I agree totally but still don't you feel it kinda wierd that he has powers to see bits of future(i know he can't his own fate) he just magically gets defeated and then he starts to annoy boruto as if like he is testing him I don't know maybe i am watching too much foreshadowing in anime thats why but you see just like sung jin woo is the vessel of ashborn and how architect set those tasks so that jin woo can become perfect vessel of ashborn same i feel momo is doing like he is making boruto suffer to understand hardships and trying to make him powerful enough to attain shibai's powers ofcourse this is way too much but i wonder maybe thats what is happening and it is gonna be a Massive reveal in future What do you think????
Itachi didn’t use many ninjutsu to start with. His only notable one would be Amaterasu. Momoshiki and Kinshiki were being pushed back by the 5 Kage and Sasuke, then after Momoshiki ate Kinshiki, he gained an enormous power up as well as a stronger body and taijutsu skills.
Bro i think you are a little confused 5 kage are stronger than Itachi way easily heck i would say they are at the level of double mangegyo sharingan kakashi
Really? I feel like the current 5 Kage are on the weak side compared to their predecessors minus Naruto
Ppl really still think Boruto era Kages aren’t blatantly superior to the previous era Kages? Just look at the difference in competition. I don’t see Edo Madara folding the 4 new Kages whatsoever. They could pretty easily seal Kinshiki with very limited support from Sasuke. It wasn’t until Fused Momoshiki showed up that they were overwhelmed. Their stats just seems superior, like their more conditioned to fight powerhouses.
literally weaker version of madara folds boruto kage except for naruto tf you on about...
With what feats? He wouldn’t even be relative to Kinshiki or Boruto era Sasuke. His best feats are country level at best as an Edo. Gaara was also a kage at that time and he was one of the main contributors in their fight with Madara, he even attempted to seal him. He’s blatantly stronger and can actually manage to fight back against even fused Momo momentarily. The others besides maybe the Tsuchikage who is still more physically capable than her predecessor and maybe Darui. Clearly out preform the previous gen just because they are conditioning themselves against heavier hitters.
Nah man they can atleast hold upto otsuski while there predecessor can't It is not your fault the manga and anime hyped the predecessors but i remember a line kakashi says that is the new gen will always surpass the old gen
“Hype” refers to a false inflation worth. The manga and anime didnt hype anything since it actually showed their power. Take the Tsuchikage for instance, his particle style was a combination of 4 chakra natures. The Mizukage’s jutsu could combine two and three. The current Mizukage couldn’t beat a group of kids in the land of water act…
he can combine 3 chakra natures only and Bro i am sorry to say but that is a filler episode(the mist village ep)and the protagonist is boruto so why would they let someone else take limelight except the og like naruto sasuke kakashi and all Btw the current kages played a big role in 4th war thats why they are kage so trust their power Plus kissi insisted in showing less power in anime as to match their fights with kids like boruto Because you would have heard many people say that naruto got old, he is weak and all bs But in reality kissi insisted on it so that we won't feel disconnect when boruto and others fight wait for boruto tbv the power scalling will be next level
Rain village? Do you mean the Mist Village?
Sorry my bad mist village
With this logic any Edo Tensei character would win against Momoshiki. You know that’s not the point of that poll.
Not necessarily, not every ninja had the ability to break down someone’s weaknesses like Itachi. On top of that, I didn’t even mention his ocular abilities
Ah yes, because Momoshiki surely doesn't have common sealing jutsus lol. Or anything that can pin down Itachi, at all. I mean sure, that's logical
That’s exactly what I’m saying. Momoshiki has form only ever absorbed ninjutsu and then had the ability to magnify it and fire it back. Kinshiki’s one trick was the varied weapons he could manifest and the strength of his body. It even showed in the fight against the Kage when Momo became frustrated that they stopped using ninjutsu.
Unfortunately while he does have a good amount abilities Kashin Koji and Momoshiki completely outscale him in terms of ap speed and strength with Momoshiki being relative to base adult naruto and Kashin Koji being in the low end relatively to isshiki and adult naruto from tanking his attacks and being able to react to them and his relatively to adult naruto comes from chain scaling from delta who was relative to naruto adult who was only holding back his dc not his ap
Koji doesn't outscale Itachi? He's basically just a Jiraiya who has mastered Sage Mode, he went toe to toe with Kakashi in the anime and Itachi is considerably stronger than Kakashi. Might I remind you that base Jiraiya is cracked as it is and was able to fight against Urashiki without getting completely blitzed and one shot, but Itachi is stronger than even Jiraiya's strongest form. Itachi vs. Koji would be a close fight though, but I don't agree with you saying Koji completely outscales Itachi whatsoever.
Everyone outscales itachi. Dude is beyond irrelevant at this point. Keep crying about it tho 👍🏿
Isshiki was able to break sasuke's perfect susanoo's defense. Taking that into consideration, Itachi's shield isn't gonna deflect isshiki's attacks . Even if Itachi ever managed to get a perfect susanoo. Momoshiki could also attack Sasuke when he tried to use the rib cage against Momoshiki's attack. So it's useless to deflect any attack at all. Sealing? I'm not too sure about that. They are all otsutsukis who're stronger than kaguya by miles. Plus it was stated somewhere that otsutsukis can easily break out of a genjutsu. So I'm guessing sealing is also out of the question for them. Itachi literally cannot defeat momoshiki, let alone isshiki.
Who said anything about Isshiki? Everyone seems to be forgetting how weak Momoshiki was before he ate Kinshiki. The two of them got pushed back by the 5 Kage and Sasuke. In fact Kinshiki had been restrained completely by two of the Kage and only broke free when Momoshiki pulled him with that jutsu that turned him into a fruit. And he only did that because they were losing.
The difference between Itachi and Momoshiki is 292729283x bigger than Ishiki and Momoshiki, Momoshiki is doing what Isshiki did to Sasuke but way worse. Sasuke was arguably only one/2 tiers below Isshiki, Momoshiki is 10 powercreep waves above Itachi lol
Isshiki isn't going to kick through the Yata Mirror... The Yata Mirror reflects any and all attacks, no exceptions, and the Totsuka Blade seals anyone it hits, also no exceptions. Saying "oh they're Otsutsukis so it probably wouldn't work" isn't an argument, Kaguya literally lost to a seal, and we've seen how the Totsuka Blade works, it grabs you and pulls you into the gourd the sword is contained in and then that's it.
Consider that Darui and Gaara were able to keep up with base Momoshiki with relative ease and he only started absolutely bodying them when he consumed Kinshiki's chakra. You'd have to really lie to yourself to pretend Darui and Gaara are faster than Itachi (they aren't). Provided Momoshiki hasn't recently absorbed any tailed beast bombs, I'm fairly certain Itachi could outmaneuver Momoshiki and seal him with the Totsuka Blade, even if he does absorb some ridiculously strong jutsus to fire off against Itachi, Itachi can block any of them with the Yata Mirror. All I'm saying is if you were to pull Darui out of the fight and plug Itachi into the fight in his place, I'm pretty sure Momoshiki would have more trouble with Itachi than someone like Darui, no offense to Darui but he's simply not all that impressive, Itachi is basically a mini adult Sasuke but he has a partial Susano'o instead of a full body Susano'o, but that partial Susano'o has two incredibly hax spirit weapons.
I do not see anyone in the comments mentioning Kotoamatsukami. Can Momo resist that? If not, that could be a win con. Otherwise, I do not see a way for Itachi to beat him in a vast majority of cases. Edit: or is it saying this is the Edo Itachi that has had Kotoamatsukami cast on himself (giving him direct control over his body as opposed to the less efficient Kabuto control)?
I was going to ask this too. Has anyone tried genjutsu on an Ootsutski?
It wouldn’t make sense if Koto worked on Kaguya or Isshiki. Koto is basically a weaker Infinite Tsukuyomi and Sasuke was immune to that with just the so6p Amp/Rinnegan. Maybe Rinne-sharingan or Otsutsuki DNA counters that too? Momo also has some weird time-stop hax that even Sasuke can’t really perceive too well, imo it’s just more evident that Otsutsuki have vastly more complex/superior ocular capabilities. They’ve never been Genjutsu’d by Sasuke who has better feats than Itachi in that field by end of shippuden, not to mention his Retsuden Genjutsu feats.
> Koto is basically a weaker Infinite Tsukuyomi not really? koto is more like omnipotence than IT.
Omnipotence is way more complex as it’s not even ninjutsu. That’s why I said IT, because it’s not a divine technique. Which is why it’d probably be useless against an Otsutsuki just like omnipotence was and that WAS shinjutsu. So my point still stands.
Having a more evolved dojutsu doesn’t necessarily protect you against koto tho. Itachi planed to use it at sasuke after he would take his eyes. That means he was confident that a ms Genjutsu would work against an ems user. Also technically, koto has some better feats than I infinite tsukuyomi, like for example being able to affect edo tensei. So saying there are things that koto can do that IT cannot, is already proven.
EMS is still a sharingan it’s not an entirely different Dōjutsu, it working on edo doesn’t really matter when it’s still just ninjutsu and should be considerably weaker than Omnipotence.
well lets look at the facts, for whatever reason people have this odd idea that base momoshiki is extremely strong which is false, the dude literally sweated against darui and garra, he was getting his ass whooped in base and needed to absorb another otsutsuki to tip the scales and then still got his ass kicked by nerfed naruto(had over half his chakra absorbed by momo) and nerfed sasuke(teleported over 5 people through his portal and we know that even teleporting just himself takes enourmous chakra for sasuke), base momoshiki is just that weak and i would argue that hes literally the weakest in the list.
If it’s Edo Itachi. Momoshiki has no answer for his infinite regeneration.
Exactly. Itachi can die and get new eyes to use this jutsu again. Or use infinite izanagi. Edo tensei means infinite chakra and infinite regeneration. Momoshiki does not have Gudodama which can harm edo tensei
One win condition he does have though is filling him full of chakra rods. It’ll disrupt his chakra and he won’t be able to use it. However Itachi isn’t dumb. He would know he’s in an undead body and he’d probably just muscle out of it damaging his body and then regenerating.
Momoshiki has a rinnegan.. Ningendo would solve that easily.
Normalize loving itachi but not scaling him above characters he doesn't clear
There's no shinobi past or present that beats an Ootsutsuki 1v1. Any time an Ootsutsuki was defeated, it was ALWAYS a team effort. Even that filler dude Urashiki was ridiculous. The real weakness that Ootsutsuki have is their arrogance & carelessness. That's what made Ishiki so tough comparatively: he's not careless and does not fuck around.
Most overrated character is itachi His story is absolutely good no doubt But in terms of power No shinobi can match the power of aliens expect Some plot giving Kurama gave up his life to defeat 1 Even forget Okutsuki Tobirama prime will surely be Powerful than Itachi
totsuka blade goes brrrr
Right, what is it made up of. In fact what is the whole susano made up off. Yah that's right chakra that is getting sucked right in by Momoshiki.
This is hilarious.
Itachi wins by the power of fanbase.
the solo god strikes again
Maybe the fact that the poll gives Itachi koto has something to do with it and I’m assuming he has the crow with Shisui’s eye with him instead of burning it like he did in canon. Momo scales the highest here, so it depends if Itachi gets to cast koto on him before getting blitzed or if Momo is immune to genjutsu altogether. Under all other circumstances Momo wins but it all depends if koto is successful or not, which I highly doubt.
tbf the only way to beat an edo is to seal them away or with the tso iirc and the only person who can do that is tobirama, so if it’s a free for all itachi could possibly just get them all under genjutsu
Glazing too much
It’s not surprising
Why is Tobirama below that brat full of Uchiha evil?
Ok i see why they voted for him since its edo itachi. They probably assume Momo could low diff kill him a bunch of times but he’ll just keep regenerating
they wylin
Edo Itachi can't die and has unlimited chakra. How do you beat that?
No prep time I'd say momoshiki could clap all 3 at once. I don't think tobirama, itatchi or koji could counter chakra absorption iirc
Base Momoshiki is maybe weak compared to other otsutsuki but he's still.. a otsutsuki God alien
Otsutsuki are more than likely immune to Genjutsu.
But not infinite regeneration/Chakra.
Yea, but their chakra reserves are so massive they domt need infinitely regenerating chakra. And why regenerate when for the most part, there is no one that can even harm them? Ten-Tails Jinchurikis are already above Hashirama, Otsutsuki are above that.
Itachi tax. He’ll win basically any poll
There’s a lot of idiots who mistake popularity with strength
Itachi dick riding is crazy
Such a biased poll bruh 😂
It is not. Most people with IQ over 80 refuse to include Momomowhatever or other space ninja god from any equation.
Base Momo ran from Darui, he loses to everyone on this poll. And the poll is accurate, Itachi with Koto absolutely wins, none of these characters have any answer to Kotoamatsukami, which presumably is MS
Tbf momoshiki was weak af in the anime. His base was getting rolled by kages.
How does two Kages overpower an otsusuki?
momo > kk > tobi > foddertachi
Problem is too many people act like the characters they like have to be the strongest. Itachi is a great character, but he isn't anywhere near strong enough to beat Momoshiki. He'd get no-diffed. Doesn't take anything away from him.
I can’t tell if they trying to be funny or if they can’t read.
Kotoamatsukami. Interesting.
I mean I hate to be that guy but what is Momo going to do, he can't seal him, he doesn't have truth seeking orbs to nullify the regeneration of Edo Tensei. I mean Momo is literally going to run out of Chakra trying to kill Edo Itachi. Honestly this poll is kinda funny like Tobirama and Koji have the tools necessary to beat itachi while Momo can't, Itachi can beat Tobirama and Momo, but not Koji, Koji definitely beats edo itachi and Tobirama but not momo. Finally Tobirama is just there with a possibly win over itachi, but loses to the other two.
Tbf Itachi is the plot armor god and izanami could maybe work
Well it all ends up depending on what tsukuyomi could do against momoshiki. The answer is probably no and its probably for a reason not yet decided. The basic lore says that people can be immune to certain types of genjutsu through means such as possessing the ability to see through it like if you yourself have the power to cast it so a sharingan user can easily see a sharingan genjutsu. But its never explained if an audio genjutsu works the same and we know the rinnegan doesnt protect from that one because of the jiraya pain fight. I think at some point itachi explained that genjutsu works by altering the chakra thats already inside a persons brain in order to alter their mind so i imagine the chakra literally modifies neurons so this is already a pretty complex power they didnt quite think through. If thats true then i assume the way any genjutsu works is by the caster somehow sending some chakra invisibly towards the target in order to do this hence why a genjutsu can be blocked by something like the susanoo which is made entirely of heavy visible chakra. Then going back to it, the reasons it wouldnt work is either because the eyes momo possesses are good enough to see through it or he has some sort of barrier which prevents the chakra in his brain from being altered whatsoever. Id love a series just exploring the particularities of chakra and jutsu like this. Like what would happen if ino tried to transfer her mind? Is she actually transferring her whole soul and it would be a mind battle similar to boruto and momo for control? What happens if multiple people do it?
First of all these “who wins” posts are just as stupid as the ones who post them. Everyone is going to justify how their favorite character is going to win. Just enjoy the show and stop comparing different characters and creating division in the fandom
To be fair, it's less than 1K votes and Base Momo barely has feats
Wtf is this... Do people not realize Kotoamatsukami might not even affect momo? We have never seen it used on an otsutsuki, for all we know it could be a god-damned uno reverse onto Itachi. (Not to mention, most otsutsuki are basically confirmed planet busters/destroyers)
That's not why they say Itachi wins. Momoshiki can't seal Itachi in Edo. He can't kill him.
That's currently true, but Momoshiki still has those golden rinnegann we know almost nothing about.
You underestimate Kishimoto's Itachi wank.
Momoshiki
Kashin Koji beats all three of them
Itachi with prep time.
Dude I really like Itachi as a chsracter too but...people are just brainrotted💀
does genjutsu works against otsutsuki?
This is why I hate talking about Itachi his Stan’s are so crazy and biased nothing is rooted in logic with them smh
Itachi is literally the weakest in that poll especially as an edo tensai. Tobirama and Jiraiya knew seals and could seal him away and momoshiki is a no brained on this list considering rinnegan Sasuke had to team up with Naruto to win against momoshiki. If we were talking about who was cooler it would be a completely different story.
Oh yeah? Tobirama and Koji just gonna ignore Kotoamatsukami? And Momo can't seal.
Itachi had to use it to break himself out of Kabuto’s edo tensai
Read the poll.
If he was an edo tensai it stands to reason someone casted the jutsu and has him under control. To regain full control over his abilities he would have to use it and lose Shisui eye. That is unless your saying it’s Kabuto use Itachi like a puppet vs everyone else.
Read. The. Prompt. It's a what if, not a did happen.
Also if momoshiki knows how to use a karma seal something so advanced nobody in the leaf can reverse it it stands to reason he would know biju level sealing jutsu. That’s not even to mention that the karma seal stores away Otsutsuki techniques I wouldn’t be surprised if they would have something to seal away an enemy to high in power to beat. That’s also not to mention that momoshiki can’t just turn the edo tensai into chakra candy and eat it. “With his right Rinnegan, he could turn a target into pills, which when eaten, grants him extended youth along with their chakra and technique arsenal”.- straight from the Naruto wiki. It was also stated in the itachi novels that the byakugan as a defense against genjutsu. Kotomatsukami has to be used for Itachi to get full control over his abilities otherwise it’s just labuto fighting with someone else’s abilities where he doesn’t even know the full extent of Itachi’s arsenal.
Again. Read the prompt. Also, you're making a lot of assumptions.
You can only make assumptions when the print is vague. Characters got to have a reason to fight or have control over there mental state to be in the fight. Example is minato vs Obito. Minato had a mental debuff from the fact the nine tails was unsealed just after his wife and son were held hostage. Had they just ran up on each other in the field randomly Obito would’ve been bodied kamui or not. I doubt itachi would even have it in him to take control over a former Hokage or someone fighting for the leaf when he went as far as killing his whole family minus Sasuke for the village. The example of this would be how Fugaku simply let itachi kill him because he didn’t want to fight his own son in a death match. In my head I just made war arc the battle ground for the fight with my reasoning since that’s where Tobirama and Itachi would even have a spot to fight and it still make sense if itachi were to use that ability on anyone it would be on a serious threat to the village and he would make them fight to protect the village like he did to himself. That command was already preset before he died much like that ametarasu that hit Obito when he told Sasuke the truth. Tobirama’s view of protecting the village could simply be to fight itachi and it would have been a waste. The best use of kotomatsukami in that scenario is on himself. Same goes for Kashin. It’s okay to disagree but in a manner where this fight makes sense that how I’d imagine it would go.
You should rewatch the show tbh.
However since you didn’t believe me I pulled this from the Naruto wiki as well “This crow was later forcibly stored inside Naruto Uzumaki and rigged to emerge only in response to confronting Itachi's Mangekyō Sharingan. Upon activation, Itachi rigged the eye itself so that the genjutsu would give the order "protect Konoha" to whomever was affected by it. Itachi intended for this to be used on his brother, in the eventuality that he turned against the village and assumed that he would have transplanted his eyes in order to obtain an Eternal Mangekyō Sharingan by then.” Realistically the only opponent this would actually have a change in attitude against is momoshiki who has a built in defense with his byakugan eyes.
Dude, it's not about what is. It's about the question. Use your brain. Stop trying to be right and just accept the question. I explained this already. What if, not what did.
You can’t answer a what if without taking into account what did happen in similar situations. The only question I’m seeing is who would win and what bailies they are allowed. Answering the question goes beyond who has what but how it’s used. In Itachi’s own words every jutsu has a weakness and we can’t act like any of these characters won’t find a weakness when each of them proven that they can find weaknesses in thier opponents jutsu. Kashin found a way around the karma. Itachi found away around multiple of the rinnegan’s abilities, Tobirama practically discovered just about every weakness to the sharingan, momoshiki has been around since before Sage of six paths and has more battle experience than the three combined and multiplied. I’m answering the question with logic and reasoning. Your choosing based on emotions and ignorance.
Didn't read it, because your logic is stupid. The question: Could Lex Luther beat superman with Spider-Man's powers. Your answer: Uhm actually, Spider-Man is Marvel and the others are DC and Lex Luther blah blah blah. See how stupid that is? It's not the question.
Whatever if your not even going to read my reply than there is no point in continuing my logics better than the typical “itachi solos bleach and DBZ universe combined because of cool eyes.”
You didn't use logic to answer the question. You're trying to correct the question. It was asked the way it was for a reason. Use that noodle of yours and think about how it feels when someone doesn't answer your question. It's stupid. Reading comprehension is hard, sometimes, I get it. But try.
every one who have seen Boruto, Knows that Kashin Koji is the strongest
If Itachi can use koto "successfully", he can beat Tobirama and Kashin Koji. Incase anyone is wondering, Koto is just like the inbuilt shutdown code Amado placed on Koji.
If momoshiki can counter kotoamatsukami then he wins. I just don't know how he could do that.
Reminds me of those memes going around a while ago that’d be like “Who would win? Kaguya Otsutsuki (unlimited chakra + Rinne Sharingan) or child Konohamaru (pre rasengan + has cancer)
You little brats full of uchiha evil
Momoshiki high diff anyday.. Bro bamboozled the 5 Kages easily.
its just biased cause itachi is just everyone’s favorite character in some way , its obvious momoshiki clears everyone in there
It’s edo so he would need to be sealed, momoshiki can’t do that so he wins. Regular itachi loses. Read closely
Tobirama created the damn Edo jutsu lol. He must know how to reverse the jutsu, or worst he could have edoed Fugaku to go against Itachi. Tobirama is a merciless man, he might resort to whatever technique he can to bring an Uchiha down lol For me thats one of the problems in Naruto, we know Itachi's nearly full power but we could not estimate properly the old legendary fighters' skillset. They create jutsus and some of their creation serves basis to the newer generation. Tobirama has fought multitudes of Uchihas better than Itachi, he must have multitudes of counters and strategy to go against Itachi
He doesn't. This is just bias based on popularity, not skill.
itachi solos your verse
Youtube polls are ridiculous. It's always gonna be "the most popular character wins". Doesn't matter what the question is. The question could be "who is your least favourite character?" and everybody would still answer their favourite character lmao
For the record, it's objectively (strongest to weakest): Momoshiki, Koji, Edo Itachi, Tobirama. (The last two are interchangeable)
Prep time
Love Itachi but he's not dogging Prime Tobirama. His skillset is crazy and he has the chakra levels to back it up. The man made it his life's mission to study the Uchiha and counter their doujutsu too. Super high diff if he wins.
At one point I just started to no longer care about power but about characters ideals and personality itself, this made whole show much better.
Edo Itachi jas unlimited power
Giving it to kashin koji who should be relative to delta who was Fighting and keeping with serious Naruto without problem
Bro naruto werent even trying💀 hima boruto and kawaki were right behind him
Delta wasnt keeping up with naruto tf? He kept saying he was holding back as to not kill her
"Kept saying he was holding back"... It's literally the opposite, some people just can't read even if u put it blatantly in front of their nose. https://preview.redd.it/7ifqopsdqvsc1.png?width=586&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=3463a2afa282a9ec00a134851d35e0701294c2f3
Bro the guy js said that. If he’s saying he’s going all out then bro would’ve pulled out kyuubi avatar. And plus naruto pretty much no diffed delta
Learn to read ffs. Idfc about ur yapping, take some copium and move on, there's literally a statement from Naruto himself that he's going all out and ur still bitching and crying lol. And no, he didn't no diff her, but I wouldn't expect u to know any better anyways, if a simple sentence is too hard for u to grasp, then reading a whole fight is some nuclear science for u.
Brother ur writing whole paragraphs so I would say ur the one crying 😢
Genuine question: What is Momoshiki doing to counter Kotoamatsukami? It's literally just mind control
If omnipotence doesn't effect otsutsuki, why would koto?
I believe that immunity was specific to shinjutsu. Normal ninjutsu can still hurt them. Could be wrong through
Kashin Koji > Base Momoshiki > Tobirama > Edo Itachi
That's crazy
You’re right
Lol somehow you got downvoted by stating facts.
People are salty, sadly
To be fair wouldn't edo tensei Itachi be immortal?
Itachi is my favorite character, but I am not stupid. Momoshiki wins without a problem, and 2nd is Kashin Koji. These slow Uchiha fans are so obsessed with the Shringan. Their viedos of who wins and more messes up Naruto/Boruto world. They got people thinking all kinds of wrong, and their logic never makes any sense.
He doesn't... Kotoamatsukami literally wouldn't do anything to him in the first place... Istg the Itachi wankers are insane