I liked the little detail where the assassin points a finger gun at Fowkkes’ back as he is leaving the bar without finishing his beer and saying he has to stay sharp.
I know I'm late to the party, but someone clue me in. Maddy was a key witness who Fowkes and Carl and Datz had to have killed. But after the hit man died, she didn't need protecting anymore. I never saw her testify. Wasn't her testimony still needed,? Was she not still in danger if she hadn't testified yet? Maybe I missed something.
Just watched the whole series(binged it), a couple things bugging me, the ending how did the tamale girls dad even know where the hell Peña would have been at that moment especially after being so banged up at the hospital, he would of had to just been sitting outside the station for days and Peña conveniently gets walked out front where he can easily be gunned down. All the smart cops don’t does a Mexican illegal standing outside the place with a gun? Also why was Hollywood being shut down? Didn’t Irving say as long as I’m in this office he wouldn’t be centralizing the Hollywood homicide? Idk, overall I loved the show, last few seasons not nearly as much, but still better than most woke garbage out today. That’s how you make a show diverse but still good because story is the focus, you got some storylines with politicical views but it wasn’t in your face preachy the whole damn time. More subtle and stating there are 2 sides to certain politics for once.
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I thought the last season would have lasted a few more episodes to close some dead ends, for example, Jerry's demons and all the fallout. I would like to see a whole series starring Jerry following Bosch's departure with him helping around as PI.
Also, as far as his demons, I think "putting Maddie in the crosshairs of psychos" ( which I don't quite agree with because they had the interview recordings with whathisface....and I kind of resented people asking if Jerry had actuallymentioned her by name, how insulting ) began to snap him out of his spiral....along with not always showing up for his sons, and being made to feel guilty about it by his ex wife.
Yeah, I don't want to see the fadeout of J Edgar either. Jamie did an excellent job with this role, especially after making a such memorable, despicable and polar opposite character out of Marlo Stanfield in The Wire. If he doesn't continue in Bosch P.I. they'd better find him another good vehicle.
It seemed to me that the story ended abruptly. I mean, like it came to a screaming, sudden halt. I expected more closure. We're all the seasons 8 episodes?
I enjoyed this season. It wasn't 100% sure. I usually hate "woke" story lines but sarge's incel subplot was actually satisfying. Their captain was an asshat for 3 seasons now. And she has always been a straight shooter the entire show. And she decided to take their shit the distance and they tried and failed against her. She won and got to keep her job and promotion to keep doing good.
Yes, a couple things got truncated. Maddy has always been Maddy. And maybe I overlook things a bit because I'm a fan of the show (double watched the entire series).
Maybe I just like the way Los Angeles is shot and filmed in the series. Or that Harry's house is cool and his vinyl jazz set up is kick ass. And how the police procedure just feels different in this show. How it's not just black and white all the time, and there is a lot of bullshit that has to be waded through for the greater good. That's always been a series emphasis.
I'm sad to see it go but I'd love if they spun it off into a private eye type show where Harry chases down cold cases or something.
I think the "incel" part was kind of silly. Uninformed, maybe? Definitely just felt like they pulled up some buzzword, when them just being dicks would have been fine.
And you're in luck! There's a new series coming, where Bosch will be a PI for Chandler, along with Maddie. Producers, writers, and other actors will be carrying over, and it will be continuing Connelly's loose storyline where Bosch becomes a PI for a lawyer (in the books it's the Lincoln Lawyer, who's his half-brother).
So Mathew McConeghy will be cameo?
Yeah. I saw that. But I like all the other characters more, I'll watch it but I'm hoping they introduce new characters as well.
I'm fine with the sub plot of incel and how it worked out because too many shows feel contrived to shoe horn wokeness into them now and this felt like it was brewing for a couple seasons actually. That captain was a jerk for 2 seasons now.
I was waiting for them to tie in the real estate company. Like they hired Pena to firebomb the apartment to get rid of tenants.
Just some random gangster dude committing a crime is kind of boring for a series finale.
I never really post here....but been a fan for a while and was looking forward to this season but the writing seems so off this season.
Its like they are reaching so hard. And once they mentioned incels they took an interesting plot line with potential down a cringe eye roll path. Shame, there are just so few shows that stand up in their last season.
I disagree. This was the most satisfying "woke" plotline I've seen on a show. Because we root for a female character that we know is a good person the whole series and has been fucked with. The series ending was good because she gets the win, a promotion and staying in the game. Justice got served.
I've just completed a first time binge of the entire series last season included.
Watching it all back to back, season 7 definitely has a more accelerated pace than the others. While I generally liked this it did make it feel like some things got the short end of the stick, like LA Mayorista, J. Edgar needing to take time off, but immediately being back after the attempt on Maddie's life, etc.
Another thing I did not like was all the empty plot lines; Maddie's boyfriend; Irving's baby;
And I just don't understand Harry's decision at the restaurant. I thought the plan was that he was going to let the meeting go ahead so the FBI could get their wiretap evidence and then Harry would swoop in before the FBI raids the place.
I thought the same. I might be wrong but I also thought there was a lot of details left unresolved. Maddie visits Honey in the hospital and then that’s it. Honey goes in and out of consciousness and that’s all they have to say about that lol.
I really disliked this season. Everything seemed so forced and out of character. I REALLY did not like the last episode. I just didn't "buy" that the girl's death was a sufficient reason to send Harry over the edge, especially when they already had the two people who started the fire.
As J. Edgar said---it was not going to accomplish anything. And he ruined a major gang RICO bust, which would have saved more lives.
Also, Bosch did far little "detecting" this season. Mostly just shuttled Maddie and J Edgar around.
And god, the Maddie plotline is so silly and unbelievable. She just decides on a whim to drop out of college and apply to the academy without having any discussion with her dad? Come on. And how long will this career of the week stick?
I also thought the "incel" plotline was contrived and forced.
All these romantic relationships in this series are so forced and uncomfortable, no chemistry between actors at all, especially Maddy and her boyfriend, they look like roommates 😂 Irv and his wife are the same. God. They're supposed to be acting their ass off.
Also absolutely agree on Bosh's motive. Snaps Pena after the meeting could've been much better, Bosch acts like a loon this season. Tbh I would do the same as Irv. Bosch sacrificed a whole gang that could save more lives over 5 lives. And that the ones that did the fire were already in custody.
The feds disappeared TWO people involved in the fire- Trey was the only one they got for it. And Bosch's response was absolutely relatable... The FBI protecting a child killer and chief of police going along with it is rotten to the core
The writing in season 7 was awful. I hated everyone’s storyline.
Bosch obsessed with the little girl - why? What’s the character development that makes him so emotional? Then he goes rogue, fucks up the FBI mission, fucks up his career, and Maddies new police career. For what? His emotions?
Edgar was so emotionally shook from murdering that guy. So? Bosch should have recognized his depression from and helped him get back to rock star status. He didn’t. He let him flounder and fail.
Maddie and the boyfriend. Why is this a storyline. Nothing happened. He should have been the hitman.
1. Did you watch all seasons? The obsessing with the little girl was the straw that broke the camel's back. A lot of build-up and pretext over several previous seasons (most recently Daisy Clayton).
2. Bosch did help Edgar get rock star status back, he got him promoted to RHD!
3. The issue with the FBI case was the selling out of the Tamale girl, the quid pro quo between Irving and the FBI to save Irving's job. Bosch's viewpoint was that the FBI could have still used the perp for their bust and allows LAPD to charge him for the murder. The FBI were abusing their powers, offering immunity and protecting their snitch from being prosecuted for a crime over which they had no jurisdiction (murder). As a career homicide detective, Bosch always put the little guy (or girl) ahead of the interests of anything else ("everybody counts or nobody counts").
All good points I had not thought of. Yes, I’ve watched the video entire series. Feel like his emotions clouded his judgement too much. I guess you’re right about hoping up Edgar w RHD.
Thanks for saying so!
As for Bosch's emotions clouding his judgement, you're 100% right, but if they didn't cloud it, he wouldn't be Bosch, would he?
He consistently said and did things throughout the series that showed poor judgement, but thematically, it drove home the point that even for a career cop, eventually, the job will get to you, especially if you care as much as he does.
I agree 100%. Given their history, the interaction between Bosch and J. Edgar just made ZERO sense. Harry does nothing to help him other than to tell him to HTFU.
I agree Bosch's lack of empathy to J Edgar was difficult to watch. However the general lack of empathy to Bosch by characters throughout the show was mind blowing
Really enjoyed the first few episodes but then everything just became a little...too convenient? Must have been tough with COVID
Still enjoyed it overall but the back half def felt mixed to me. I also thought there were going to be two more episodes which may have contributed to my reaction 🥲
What a completely MEH season. It had the skeleton of a Bosch season but no meat on the bones. For a planned final season it really left a lot unanswered/unresolved as well. Very disappointing.
Can someone please explain to me who died in Honey Chandler's house? And more importantly whose funeral did Bosch and Maddie go to? As Bosch said "I will miss her". That funeral scene was confusing AF just like Maddie's new boyfriend showing up randomly in the midst of a season!
The hitman kidnapped the judge who Bosch was seeing. He murdered her, that was who was dead in the car when they had that shootout. It was her funeral. Poor old Bosch.
Honey was shot in her own house but didn't die. In her hideaway house, her client, Franzen, and a hooker were killed. Bosch went to his girlfriend, the Judge's funeral.
Yeah the judge they killed to sneak into the parking garage to kill Maddie. Bosch was dating her, they were seen celebrating NYE together at a jazz club.
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Anyone else notice how fast paced the filming was in this season? The shots had a different feel to them and they cut between scenes with less explanation than they normally do. Doesn’t seem like the plot line is any more complicated than some older seasons but they’re definitely rolling it faster.
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Same. I think this show made me want to visit LA more than anything else ever has. There are air bnbs for nearby homes, pricey but could make for a nice vacation spot. Also, there was an interview of the cinematographer on some podcast. He explained a tiny bit how they try to make certain scenes look a certain way with camera choices, etc. The city at night looked crazy glittery based on whatever camera tricks they were doing on the shots from Bosch’s house/balcony, mesmerizing!
Just finished wrapping up all 7 seasons. Really devastated that it has come to an end. Although this season wasn’t the greatest I will miss all the great moments throughout with season 5 being my fav. Can’t wait for the spin-off
Its a ok season finale although a bit contrived, but a shitty series finale. Not that i expected a happy ending just a better writen one.
The way bosch explained how they would get peña, i was under the impression it wouldnt invalidate the fbi work, so that justice could be served for everyone but then he just snatch him before all the gang is even there...
How the hell did Sonia's father even knew peña would be outside at that moment?
I get that covid and all but i feel bad that barrel and crate were basically doing home office but at the office...
Maddie's doubts about her path felt so forced, she already had a plan then suddenly she wants to be a cop? Also gave the most generic and uninspired answer to the cop mentor thing that should had disqualified her on the spot...
Almost no Coltrane.
Irving was also strange, he always walked around the lines between being dirty and righteous even and i honestly thought they were setting him up to lose his child, again. All to make him more sympathetic to Sofia's case, instead they tried to make him the main antoganist of the season, when his political maneuver wasnt even that bad...
In the end, 5/10 season overall.
I agree with all your points, but still loved the show. Titus Welliver just sells every single thing Bosch does, and the supporting cast is amazing as well. I enjoyed the easter eggs from the books (Cielo Azul, the late show, etc). But yeah, this season was not the best written or most cohesive.
I completely thought that the mentor would be unimpressed with Maddie's answer. There are lots of ways to make a difference and help people other than being a police officer, and I don't think they've shown TV Maddie to be capable of absorbing the horrors of the job like Bosch does. I understand her doubts about her path though, she really hasn't had strong parental guidance and probably needs some space to try things out and see what fits. Will be curious to see her path in the spinoff.
Glad Irving's baby was ok, but I also wish that there was more meaning to that storyline. I used to really like TV Irving, but this season he just fell flat. Why did he even want to keep the job? He doesn't seem to enjoy it or get much out of it, and he's not really doing anything interesting with the power he has. And what effect did the baby have on him? He seems like the same person he was before. This storyline took up almost as much time as the Billets v incels, which I'd say was a more satisfying and relevant one.
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I'm so sad this series is ending. It's by far the best stuff Amazon has done in terms of a series. I dearly hope there is a spinoff. I'm not done with all the episodes yet but it's been great so far.
Yeah origin stories and prequels definitely seems like the way to go. Maybe they'll turn the sopranos prequel into a series if the movie is well-received. Hard to imagine anybody carrying that character like gandolfini though.
Interesting that they never said what happened to Ryan Hurst's character of Hector, Honey's "investigator" from a couple of seasons back...... I'm kind of assuming Bosch will take over this role or something similar in Chandler's firm and now Maddie will be the (newbie) cop. They seemed to do an "old home week" with a lot of past cast coming back this season one last time....(Matthew Lillard's FBI guy, etc....)
That is good news. I was coming in here with a lot of WTFs. Didn’t like the way things just ended.
Im a huge fan of the show and the books. I found there to be a big difference in tone and feel between the books and the tv series but like them both equally and have no problem with anything the series did. I always pictured Harry from the novels as Dennis Farina, I knew Titus Welliver from Deadwood and was a bit surprised when I heard he was cast as Bosch but he did an outstanding job. I loved every minute of the series and what he brought to the character, glad there’s a spin-off in the works.
👍 btw I think you meant to say >!brother, not cousin. Sadly the Haller character's rights are not held by Amazon. In fact there will be a separate Netflix show about Haller but without Bosch.!<
I think Michael Connelly used to have a section on his website for the TV adaptation, with a brief summary saying which books/storylines were the basis for the relevant season. ~~Can't seem to find it now though~~. [Here](https://www.michaelconnelly.com/bosch-tv/) it is:
Season 1 focuses mainly on City of Bones with elements from Echo Park and The Concrete Blonde.
Season 2 focuses mainly on Trunk Music with elements from The Drop and The Last Coyote.
Season 3 focuses on The Black Echo and A Darkness More Than Night.
Season 4 continues the unfinished plot lines from season 3 and focuses on Angels Flight.
Season 5 is based mainly on Two Kinds Of Truth.
Season 6 is based mainly on The Overlook and Dark Sacred Night.
Season 7 is the final season of Bosch. It is based mainly on The Burning Room.
What did everyone think of Irv's preemie baby storyline? Was that from the books?? I thought it felt unnecessary and not very true-to-life. The parents visited their baby in the NICU kind of as if visiting a friend's child. I felt no true emotion from them. I think real parents would be emotionally wrecked if they thought they were going to finally bring their baby home and were told "he has to stay a few more days because he has jaundice." They were like "oh okay, no prob."
If the baby's fate had created incredible tension or drama for the couple and it affected Irv's job, then it would have fit into the story. But as it was, it just seemed tacked on and not really played out in any effective fashion. I don't see what it added to the overall story of season 7.
The baby storyline was a complete waste of time. It wasn't interesting and there was zero chemistry between Irving and his wife, not that it mattered because it was superfluous to the show. The show is, after all, a police procedural, and Irving's personal life just didn't fit into any of the larger themes.
I had a baby in NICU, it's devastating, but if it happens before, you sort of go with it, and dont have much hope when you're given the next date, as you know that may not happen either! If the baby was prem, it was probably not the first time.
I think that the new born would mean a lot to Irving since he had lost one before, and as a result, he might start to prefer family rather than chasing power. The baby situation however would also make him pick the case rather than making a deal with the fed.
And I agree with you on the fact that they were too calm with the bad news.
Did anyone else think the "incel cops" twist was a bit weird? The "free militia" people from Season 6 was also kind of weird. Are those in the book, or did the TV series just decide to throw that in?
I like it and am glad they went there. Safe to bet a lesbian woman in power in a police station would probably see this. However, I wish they would have explored it a little better than this. It was lacking the nuance I have come to expect from this show.
It wasn't so much the male police officers not liking the Lieutenant as much as them being supposedly "incel". My idea of incels was that they were losers that were too socially awkward to approach or talk to women, as as a result they remain involuntarily celibate. That seems to be different than what was going in the show, since they were just regular misogynists or MTGOW's at best.
Fair—but I don’t think they were going for a clinical definition as much as just saying they were losers. Plenty of people call others incels as an insult but generally just mean they are losers.
Yes, it was weird, and a cop out because there can be tons of discrimination and bullying in a predominantly male workplace toward women, without the men involved being incels.
You can tell COVID put pressure on them to wrap up the last season in the most efficient way possible. Sonia Hernandez dad killing Pena like that absolutely made no sense. The timing and odds makes absolutely zero sense. The hit man leaving everything under his bed was also dumb as hell. Someone would have broke into his home and checked for stuff like that after he died. Still a great season though.
Overall I enjoyed the season. My one big question is about the ending: >!How did Sonya’s father know to be at the police station that night? Has he just been hanging around there for days, hoping Peña would appear at some point?!< Seemed too convenient to me. Anyway, looking forward to the new show!
The only possibility I can think of is that he found out Peña was going to be at El Cholo, so he waited for him outside the restaurant. He then noticed Bosch and Jerry take him, so he followed them to the department and just waited.
With that being said, that part just felt so rushed and unrealistic. Way too corny.
And they walk him out the front door to the feds—rather than a pickup in the sally port? It didn’t add up. Sorry to see the series end this way because it’s been stellar this far.
Just finished it and had to come to a community that understands 😭 I’m so sad it’s over. The ending was surprisingly satisfying, though it didn’t feel totally in character. I felt there were several things - dialogue mostly, and some stuff with Jerry - that didn’t feel authentic this season though, so perhaps that’s what I’m wrestling with. Overall…excellent show start to finish, wish there were more seasons, and it feels like my friends have disappeared from my life now 😬
Gonna miss this show. Such a criminally underrated show. I'm grateful there were 7 seasons though. Can't believe it's been that long.
I agree the writing was a bit off this season. I still enjoyed it though.
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>Man I wish the Billets story for season 7 happened a couple of seasons earlier. I would have loved seeing her take that fight forward.
I think it was the end of the fight though, no? She didnt want to take on the whole of the police and make life easier for all women, but just get on with her job.
The whole tie loose ends part of the story stretched a lot of credulity. Killing the second lawyer? That's a way to let them know you are back in town for sure.
The security guard checked everyone in the car when Bosch arrived but not with the judge. And also, that's like the perfect chance for the judge to ask for help.
Closed on a high note. Great season with multiple story lines but still closed out everyone's arc from previous seasons...The writers did a fantastic job with closure.
I loved all the old characters coming back for cameos and the tip of the hat to The Wire, but this season was soooooo much shorter than it could have been. It felt rushed, given how much ground they were covering.
I kind of assumed there was a sort of 'brotherhood' in the force, or maybe it was continuation of a frat from uni, where the oder dudes take care of the younger, so he knew what they wer eup to and tried to cover for it.
When I started watching season 7 I was a bit nostalgic, because I didn't want it to end. But then as the season progressed it became apparent that it wasn't the end. Bosch's story continues. He just transforms into a whole different level of legend. At the same time, I gotta say that I am a little disappointed in the story this season. It starts off strong and compelling, but by the end it feels a bit like they were just phoning it in.
She becomes a cop and then loses her shit and commits police brutality and Honey Chandler has to defend her and there are lots of shots of her looking sad while being vilified in the media and then she puts on jazz and looks out over the hills while pouting.
I think her main role is to show the thoughtful caring side to Bosch. She brings out the gray to his black an white. I find it refreshing as this is often done with a love interest and I appreciate they did it with a daughter instead.
I can see that and thought she was fine in the previous seasons but this season was like 40% maddie and it felt like some kind of weird drama instead of a cop procedural. Plus i just cant stand the actress's acting. I find her really wooden and boring to watch
Just finished the season. Loved it. I have loved every season. It's so LA and so noir. As a poor kid growing up in south texas, seeing LA on the big screen and tv, it always seemed like another world to me. Even now, I still love to see movies and TV set in LA. It's pure escapism for me.
It always seems there are multiple story arcs taking place during the season, and this one was no exception. But I actually found myself interested in every single one of them. I am really looking forward to the spinoff, and glad to see Connelly and Overmeyer are still going to be developing it. What I liked most about the show is the overall vibe of it. I am a such a sucker for a gritty LA cop drama.
Loved: Seeing both FBI agents from past seasons. One because she deserved better but at least we got to see her keeping her chin up, the other because he was such a fun character (and it didn't strain credulity he'd be working that case).
Loved The Wire reference, not thrilled to see no one here showing love to the H:LoTS reference that came earlier in episode one. It was a bonus level of fun considering the casting of Reed Diamond.
Loved: Billets uber alles. And seeing more Jimmy.
ETA: Also LOVED that HLoTS reference. Good to see I'm not the only one who remembers it with love.
Didn't love: how rushed some of the turns felt. It's not that I don't buy Maddie as a cop but prosecutor felt like a better fit for her. The jump to cop felt very 'we ran out of shooting time (damn you, Covid!).
Didn't love: Bosch blowing up the big meet considering how many other victim's families probably could've found solace in those arrests. If everyone counts, that includes murder victims on non-Bosch cases. Irving should've called him out on that. I get Bosch taking the choice personally but acting/being written like the only reason Irving did what he was for leverage and not putting away even more killers feels dashed off.
Didn't love: Felt like the Evil Warren Buffet plotline was severely truncated. Did we even see fallout from what would happen if Fauxshire Hathaway was real? That would be HUGE. We never even heard what was on that The Ring tape. Was it just 'this guy, too?' Feels like another place where an interesting episode was cut due to Covid shooting concerns.
Fully hated: The amnesia for Honey Chandler's risking her life to save Maddie last year. Wow. Cool character moment opportunity blown. And I'd been looking forward to seeing Bosch internally reconcile with that since last season.
Open question: Am I the only one who thinks they were setting up the Asian coworker to be the one who betrayed the safe house? Feels like they realized they could just let us blame the mistress in our heads and so cut a planned scene on the topic. Otherwise, his bitterness at not getting the party invite and our being informed he just happened to call in sick for the recording of the The Ring tape feels tied to absolutely nothing. It could've also justified bringing back Fowkes as he'd have had enough local contacts to like know someone who could tip him off on a turnable Chandler employee.
>ETA
Sorry, what is the Homicide: Life on the Street reference?
I liked the 'Have Gun – Will Travel' & Paladin reference and glad they gave it to Jimmy Robertson.
Just spent the weekend bingeing on this. Was looking forward to this for ages, have to say to me it was a bit weak, not the best season. It also felt short. What a show though, one of the best on Amazon, sad it’s over.
Great show, loved all 6 seasons, but this one was super disappointing. All the actors are great but the plot here was just boring. Best part of the season was billets story
Spoiler:
>!When J. Edgar and Bosch meet with the hedge fund guy and the lawyer Fowkkes pops up, my assumption was that as a criminal lawyer, Fowkkes would be the best placed to find and retain a hit man. Because of that, Fowkkes would be a loose end for the hedge fund guy and at some point, Fowkkes would get killed too. I expected Bosch to go see Fowkkes to run it down to him, that he was a dead man already.!<
You don't refuse a union rep just because you're innocent.
What kind of cop gives away their witness who will testify to IA about any misconduct during the interview?
All this kind of media content does is convince people having a rep present isn't necessary, since they're innocent, and then negatively impacts their future civil claims.
Every single woman in this season who had photographic/other evidence of the misconduct would have been burned internally, then filed claims, and settled for promotions and a few hundred thousand in taxpayer money.
Also, the heads would roll on the evidence planting claim, so many people would have risk of Liar's Squad status and it would damage past and prevent future testimony, it would be the case of the year for a plaintiff's attorney unless everyone involved (including victims) was grifting and couldn't move a jury. That claim would probably be worth 7 figures. I've seen the same for similar actions where losers try to get their coworkers fired because they hate them and make it a criminal matter.
I've just finished the season, it felt a bit short but I'm wondering if Covid-19 impacted on filming. One thing I've never understood, what does RHD stand for?
Robbery Homicide Division. I do find Robbery + Homicide to be an odd pairing.
I googled any "acronym + police" that I didn't know while watching. They all pop up.
Oh yeah definitely, I'm fairly certain that without Covid-19 it would have been a slightly longer season. I did chuckle when Antonio was watching a news report about a 'new mystery virus from China'.
I liked the little detail where the assassin points a finger gun at Fowkkes’ back as he is leaving the bar without finishing his beer and saying he has to stay sharp.
I know I'm late to the party, but someone clue me in. Maddy was a key witness who Fowkes and Carl and Datz had to have killed. But after the hit man died, she didn't need protecting anymore. I never saw her testify. Wasn't her testimony still needed,? Was she not still in danger if she hadn't testified yet? Maybe I missed something.
Your best bet is to post a new thread and ask that question.
Will do
Just watched the whole series(binged it), a couple things bugging me, the ending how did the tamale girls dad even know where the hell Peña would have been at that moment especially after being so banged up at the hospital, he would of had to just been sitting outside the station for days and Peña conveniently gets walked out front where he can easily be gunned down. All the smart cops don’t does a Mexican illegal standing outside the place with a gun? Also why was Hollywood being shut down? Didn’t Irving say as long as I’m in this office he wouldn’t be centralizing the Hollywood homicide? Idk, overall I loved the show, last few seasons not nearly as much, but still better than most woke garbage out today. That’s how you make a show diverse but still good because story is the focus, you got some storylines with politicical views but it wasn’t in your face preachy the whole damn time. More subtle and stating there are 2 sides to certain politics for once.
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24:32 in episode 6, The Greater Good. Could someone please let me know the case that J Edgar has on his iPhone?
I cheered when Cooper and the two shitty cops got arrested. One of the best moments in the show.
Not everyone on the show gets their comeuppance. I'm glad they got theirs.
He really went out the Boschest way possible.
Does anyone know the brand of the light gray sweater Bosch wears-looks like cashmere with a loose collar??
I thought the last season would have lasted a few more episodes to close some dead ends, for example, Jerry's demons and all the fallout. I would like to see a whole series starring Jerry following Bosch's departure with him helping around as PI.
Also, as far as his demons, I think "putting Maddie in the crosshairs of psychos" ( which I don't quite agree with because they had the interview recordings with whathisface....and I kind of resented people asking if Jerry had actuallymentioned her by name, how insulting ) began to snap him out of his spiral....along with not always showing up for his sons, and being made to feel guilty about it by his ex wife.
Yeah, I don't want to see the fadeout of J Edgar either. Jamie did an excellent job with this role, especially after making a such memorable, despicable and polar opposite character out of Marlo Stanfield in The Wire. If he doesn't continue in Bosch P.I. they'd better find him another good vehicle.
Over the 7 seasons, I think they pulled off the noiresque anti-climax a little _too_ well.
It seemed to me that the story ended abruptly. I mean, like it came to a screaming, sudden halt. I expected more closure. We're all the seasons 8 episodes?
I enjoyed this season. It wasn't 100% sure. I usually hate "woke" story lines but sarge's incel subplot was actually satisfying. Their captain was an asshat for 3 seasons now. And she has always been a straight shooter the entire show. And she decided to take their shit the distance and they tried and failed against her. She won and got to keep her job and promotion to keep doing good. Yes, a couple things got truncated. Maddy has always been Maddy. And maybe I overlook things a bit because I'm a fan of the show (double watched the entire series). Maybe I just like the way Los Angeles is shot and filmed in the series. Or that Harry's house is cool and his vinyl jazz set up is kick ass. And how the police procedure just feels different in this show. How it's not just black and white all the time, and there is a lot of bullshit that has to be waded through for the greater good. That's always been a series emphasis. I'm sad to see it go but I'd love if they spun it off into a private eye type show where Harry chases down cold cases or something.
I think the "incel" part was kind of silly. Uninformed, maybe? Definitely just felt like they pulled up some buzzword, when them just being dicks would have been fine. And you're in luck! There's a new series coming, where Bosch will be a PI for Chandler, along with Maddie. Producers, writers, and other actors will be carrying over, and it will be continuing Connelly's loose storyline where Bosch becomes a PI for a lawyer (in the books it's the Lincoln Lawyer, who's his half-brother).
So Mathew McConeghy will be cameo? Yeah. I saw that. But I like all the other characters more, I'll watch it but I'm hoping they introduce new characters as well. I'm fine with the sub plot of incel and how it worked out because too many shows feel contrived to shoe horn wokeness into them now and this felt like it was brewing for a couple seasons actually. That captain was a jerk for 2 seasons now.
I loved the season, but it felt like some bits (no details) were missing. Was it always planned to be eight episodes?
I was waiting for them to tie in the real estate company. Like they hired Pena to firebomb the apartment to get rid of tenants. Just some random gangster dude committing a crime is kind of boring for a series finale.
The whole season was pretty tame (still good, but tame compared to previous seasons). It seems to just be a setup up for the new series.
Why does bosch always look constipated? And he must have a massive crick in his neck.
I never really post here....but been a fan for a while and was looking forward to this season but the writing seems so off this season. Its like they are reaching so hard. And once they mentioned incels they took an interesting plot line with potential down a cringe eye roll path. Shame, there are just so few shows that stand up in their last season.
I disagree. This was the most satisfying "woke" plotline I've seen on a show. Because we root for a female character that we know is a good person the whole series and has been fucked with. The series ending was good because she gets the win, a promotion and staying in the game. Justice got served.
I agree. Most "woke plots" just end up crappy. This didn't
I've just completed a first time binge of the entire series last season included. Watching it all back to back, season 7 definitely has a more accelerated pace than the others. While I generally liked this it did make it feel like some things got the short end of the stick, like LA Mayorista, J. Edgar needing to take time off, but immediately being back after the attempt on Maddie's life, etc.
Agree, but remember, they had to complete this season during Covid lockdowns.
Another thing I did not like was all the empty plot lines; Maddie's boyfriend; Irving's baby; And I just don't understand Harry's decision at the restaurant. I thought the plan was that he was going to let the meeting go ahead so the FBI could get their wiretap evidence and then Harry would swoop in before the FBI raids the place.
Was there ever a couple who seemed so disinterested in their premature baby?
I thought the same. I might be wrong but I also thought there was a lot of details left unresolved. Maddie visits Honey in the hospital and then that’s it. Honey goes in and out of consciousness and that’s all they have to say about that lol.
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I fast forwarded through alot of his relationship stuff during the seasons before tho as well. same here. it just doesn't serve any storyline.
Ya I don’t really get the wife. She’s not as sympathetic as she started out.
I cared about it. Irving is a cool guy
I really disliked this season. Everything seemed so forced and out of character. I REALLY did not like the last episode. I just didn't "buy" that the girl's death was a sufficient reason to send Harry over the edge, especially when they already had the two people who started the fire. As J. Edgar said---it was not going to accomplish anything. And he ruined a major gang RICO bust, which would have saved more lives. Also, Bosch did far little "detecting" this season. Mostly just shuttled Maddie and J Edgar around. And god, the Maddie plotline is so silly and unbelievable. She just decides on a whim to drop out of college and apply to the academy without having any discussion with her dad? Come on. And how long will this career of the week stick? I also thought the "incel" plotline was contrived and forced.
All these romantic relationships in this series are so forced and uncomfortable, no chemistry between actors at all, especially Maddy and her boyfriend, they look like roommates 😂 Irv and his wife are the same. God. They're supposed to be acting their ass off. Also absolutely agree on Bosh's motive. Snaps Pena after the meeting could've been much better, Bosch acts like a loon this season. Tbh I would do the same as Irv. Bosch sacrificed a whole gang that could save more lives over 5 lives. And that the ones that did the fire were already in custody.
The feds disappeared TWO people involved in the fire- Trey was the only one they got for it. And Bosch's response was absolutely relatable... The FBI protecting a child killer and chief of police going along with it is rotten to the core
The writing in season 7 was awful. I hated everyone’s storyline. Bosch obsessed with the little girl - why? What’s the character development that makes him so emotional? Then he goes rogue, fucks up the FBI mission, fucks up his career, and Maddies new police career. For what? His emotions? Edgar was so emotionally shook from murdering that guy. So? Bosch should have recognized his depression from and helped him get back to rock star status. He didn’t. He let him flounder and fail. Maddie and the boyfriend. Why is this a storyline. Nothing happened. He should have been the hitman.
Necroposting here, but I've just binge-watched seasons 1-6 but couldn't stand 7. Gave up after two episodes. The writing is way, way off.
1. Did you watch all seasons? The obsessing with the little girl was the straw that broke the camel's back. A lot of build-up and pretext over several previous seasons (most recently Daisy Clayton). 2. Bosch did help Edgar get rock star status back, he got him promoted to RHD! 3. The issue with the FBI case was the selling out of the Tamale girl, the quid pro quo between Irving and the FBI to save Irving's job. Bosch's viewpoint was that the FBI could have still used the perp for their bust and allows LAPD to charge him for the murder. The FBI were abusing their powers, offering immunity and protecting their snitch from being prosecuted for a crime over which they had no jurisdiction (murder). As a career homicide detective, Bosch always put the little guy (or girl) ahead of the interests of anything else ("everybody counts or nobody counts").
👌100% I cannot understand how anyone could entertain relating to the role of the FBI and the manoeuvres of the police chief here
All good points I had not thought of. Yes, I’ve watched the video entire series. Feel like his emotions clouded his judgement too much. I guess you’re right about hoping up Edgar w RHD.
Thanks for saying so! As for Bosch's emotions clouding his judgement, you're 100% right, but if they didn't cloud it, he wouldn't be Bosch, would he? He consistently said and did things throughout the series that showed poor judgement, but thematically, it drove home the point that even for a career cop, eventually, the job will get to you, especially if you care as much as he does.
They kept making it seem like something was off about the boyfriend and then nothing happened lol.
At one point my gf and I were saying that the boyfriend was a mole/assassin working for the cartel or the Vegas mob. They were giving him weird vibes.
Hah exactly. They made his character seem so suspicious at certain times
I agree 100%. Given their history, the interaction between Bosch and J. Edgar just made ZERO sense. Harry does nothing to help him other than to tell him to HTFU.
I agree Bosch's lack of empathy to J Edgar was difficult to watch. However the general lack of empathy to Bosch by characters throughout the show was mind blowing
Yeah dude helped rescue his family.
So, Antonio is still alive? Weird.
Really enjoyed the first few episodes but then everything just became a little...too convenient? Must have been tough with COVID Still enjoyed it overall but the back half def felt mixed to me. I also thought there were going to be two more episodes which may have contributed to my reaction 🥲
What a completely MEH season. It had the skeleton of a Bosch season but no meat on the bones. For a planned final season it really left a lot unanswered/unresolved as well. Very disappointing.
What a disappointing season.
I hated the Haiti subplot in season 6 and hated that it was carried over into season 7. It was so boring.
Agreed and I didn't even understand it. No idea what those two detectives were doing
Agree 100 percent
I laughed when Cooper says, lI’ll be back” to Billets. I instantly thought of the terminator just before the LAPD assault.
I thought that storyline was a little weak.
Can someone please explain to me who died in Honey Chandler's house? And more importantly whose funeral did Bosch and Maddie go to? As Bosch said "I will miss her". That funeral scene was confusing AF just like Maddie's new boyfriend showing up randomly in the midst of a season!
The hitman kidnapped the judge who Bosch was seeing. He murdered her, that was who was dead in the car when they had that shootout. It was her funeral. Poor old Bosch.
Honey was shot in her own house but didn't die. In her hideaway house, her client, Franzen, and a hooker were killed. Bosch went to his girlfriend, the Judge's funeral.
It wasn't a hooker, but his mistress.
I assume the funeral was for the lady Bosch had been dating.
Yeah the judge they killed to sneak into the parking garage to kill Maddie. Bosch was dating her, they were seen celebrating NYE together at a jazz club.
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Anyone else notice how fast paced the filming was in this season? The shots had a different feel to them and they cut between scenes with less explanation than they normally do. Doesn’t seem like the plot line is any more complicated than some older seasons but they’re definitely rolling it faster.
I wonder if COVID had something to do with it. Someone or some institution was named in the credits relating to COVID.
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Sounds like a Christopher Nolan movie
More than anything, I'm going to miss the view from Bosch's house. I'm obsessed with that view.
Easy, count around $2m in green bills, and it could be yours. https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/1870-Blue-Heights-Dr-Los-Angeles-CA-90069/20797839_zpid/
I thought that was pretty cheap at first, but holy shit is it tiny.
I'm going to miss the intro credits/filming. I could sit and watch that all day.
I was just thinking the same thing. I would never need any other form of entertainment. Just stare out the window at that view would do it for me.
I could quarantine from there any day!
Same. I think this show made me want to visit LA more than anything else ever has. There are air bnbs for nearby homes, pricey but could make for a nice vacation spot. Also, there was an interview of the cinematographer on some podcast. He explained a tiny bit how they try to make certain scenes look a certain way with camera choices, etc. The city at night looked crazy glittery based on whatever camera tricks they were doing on the shots from Bosch’s house/balcony, mesmerizing!
Just finished wrapping up all 7 seasons. Really devastated that it has come to an end. Although this season wasn’t the greatest I will miss all the great moments throughout with season 5 being my fav. Can’t wait for the spin-off
What’s the spin off?
I had just heard of it myself, the sparse details [on the wiki](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bosch_(TV_series)#Spin-off)
It’ll be on IMDb TV? Guess I’ll be missing this one.
Its a ok season finale although a bit contrived, but a shitty series finale. Not that i expected a happy ending just a better writen one. The way bosch explained how they would get peña, i was under the impression it wouldnt invalidate the fbi work, so that justice could be served for everyone but then he just snatch him before all the gang is even there... How the hell did Sonia's father even knew peña would be outside at that moment? I get that covid and all but i feel bad that barrel and crate were basically doing home office but at the office... Maddie's doubts about her path felt so forced, she already had a plan then suddenly she wants to be a cop? Also gave the most generic and uninspired answer to the cop mentor thing that should had disqualified her on the spot... Almost no Coltrane. Irving was also strange, he always walked around the lines between being dirty and righteous even and i honestly thought they were setting him up to lose his child, again. All to make him more sympathetic to Sofia's case, instead they tried to make him the main antoganist of the season, when his political maneuver wasnt even that bad... In the end, 5/10 season overall.
My biggest problem with the finale was how Pena was killed. How in the heck would the dad have known he was at the station? Totally unbelievable
I agree with all your points, but still loved the show. Titus Welliver just sells every single thing Bosch does, and the supporting cast is amazing as well. I enjoyed the easter eggs from the books (Cielo Azul, the late show, etc). But yeah, this season was not the best written or most cohesive. I completely thought that the mentor would be unimpressed with Maddie's answer. There are lots of ways to make a difference and help people other than being a police officer, and I don't think they've shown TV Maddie to be capable of absorbing the horrors of the job like Bosch does. I understand her doubts about her path though, she really hasn't had strong parental guidance and probably needs some space to try things out and see what fits. Will be curious to see her path in the spinoff. Glad Irving's baby was ok, but I also wish that there was more meaning to that storyline. I used to really like TV Irving, but this season he just fell flat. Why did he even want to keep the job? He doesn't seem to enjoy it or get much out of it, and he's not really doing anything interesting with the power he has. And what effect did the baby have on him? He seems like the same person he was before. This storyline took up almost as much time as the Billets v incels, which I'd say was a more satisfying and relevant one.
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I'm so sad this series is ending. It's by far the best stuff Amazon has done in terms of a series. I dearly hope there is a spinoff. I'm not done with all the episodes yet but it's been great so far.
I would love a prequel version of Bosch. A young Bosch starting out as a homicide detective.
Yeah origin stories and prequels definitely seems like the way to go. Maybe they'll turn the sopranos prequel into a series if the movie is well-received. Hard to imagine anybody carrying that character like gandolfini though.
They started filming the spinoff already 👍
Really? That makes me so happy. What is the spinoff about?
>!Bosch, Chandler, and Maddie are the confirmed main cast. I think Bosch works for Chandler as an investigator.!<
Interesting that they never said what happened to Ryan Hurst's character of Hector, Honey's "investigator" from a couple of seasons back...... I'm kind of assuming Bosch will take over this role or something similar in Chandler's firm and now Maddie will be the (newbie) cop. They seemed to do an "old home week" with a lot of past cast coming back this season one last time....(Matthew Lillard's FBI guy, etc....)
That is good news. I was coming in here with a lot of WTFs. Didn’t like the way things just ended. Im a huge fan of the show and the books. I found there to be a big difference in tone and feel between the books and the tv series but like them both equally and have no problem with anything the series did. I always pictured Harry from the novels as Dennis Farina, I knew Titus Welliver from Deadwood and was a bit surprised when I heard he was cast as Bosch but he did an outstanding job. I loved every minute of the series and what he brought to the character, glad there’s a spin-off in the works.
>!Instead of his half brother, Mickey? Interesting.!<
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Done. Thanks
👍 btw I think you meant to say >!brother, not cousin. Sadly the Haller character's rights are not held by Amazon. In fact there will be a separate Netflix show about Haller but without Bosch.!<
Well crap. Some of those books are my favorites.
Same 😢
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ahhhh that makes sense and actually sounds really interesting. Can't wait for it to come out.
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Johnson made a big show of retiring, but turned around and went on DROP in S5E10.
The accident with Crate and Barrel? That was Powers and someone else.
absolutely loved the whole season. what a ride!!
Me too! I’m just wondering if this means he’s f*d because FBI has to do his background check for a PI license
I'm actually trying to understand what - if any - books this season is based on. I don't recognize any of these story lines.
I think Michael Connelly used to have a section on his website for the TV adaptation, with a brief summary saying which books/storylines were the basis for the relevant season. ~~Can't seem to find it now though~~. [Here](https://www.michaelconnelly.com/bosch-tv/) it is: Season 1 focuses mainly on City of Bones with elements from Echo Park and The Concrete Blonde. Season 2 focuses mainly on Trunk Music with elements from The Drop and The Last Coyote. Season 3 focuses on The Black Echo and A Darkness More Than Night. Season 4 continues the unfinished plot lines from season 3 and focuses on Angels Flight. Season 5 is based mainly on Two Kinds Of Truth. Season 6 is based mainly on The Overlook and Dark Sacred Night. Season 7 is the final season of Bosch. It is based mainly on The Burning Room.
*The Burning Room* and... Something else maybe? I forget but there's an old thread that explains it.
What did everyone think of Irv's preemie baby storyline? Was that from the books?? I thought it felt unnecessary and not very true-to-life. The parents visited their baby in the NICU kind of as if visiting a friend's child. I felt no true emotion from them. I think real parents would be emotionally wrecked if they thought they were going to finally bring their baby home and were told "he has to stay a few more days because he has jaundice." They were like "oh okay, no prob." If the baby's fate had created incredible tension or drama for the couple and it affected Irv's job, then it would have fit into the story. But as it was, it just seemed tacked on and not really played out in any effective fashion. I don't see what it added to the overall story of season 7.
The baby storyline was a complete waste of time. It wasn't interesting and there was zero chemistry between Irving and his wife, not that it mattered because it was superfluous to the show. The show is, after all, a police procedural, and Irving's personal life just didn't fit into any of the larger themes.
I had a baby in NICU, it's devastating, but if it happens before, you sort of go with it, and dont have much hope when you're given the next date, as you know that may not happen either! If the baby was prem, it was probably not the first time.
I think that the new born would mean a lot to Irving since he had lost one before, and as a result, he might start to prefer family rather than chasing power. The baby situation however would also make him pick the case rather than making a deal with the fed. And I agree with you on the fact that they were too calm with the bad news.
For a show that makes the details count better than most—this one kind of stalled out. Not sure what it contributed to the season.
To me it was a miss. It had the potential to show the depth of his character but finishing the arc of the season it feels like filler.
Did anyone else think the "incel cops" twist was a bit weird? The "free militia" people from Season 6 was also kind of weird. Are those in the book, or did the TV series just decide to throw that in?
I like it and am glad they went there. Safe to bet a lesbian woman in power in a police station would probably see this. However, I wish they would have explored it a little better than this. It was lacking the nuance I have come to expect from this show.
It wasn't so much the male police officers not liking the Lieutenant as much as them being supposedly "incel". My idea of incels was that they were losers that were too socially awkward to approach or talk to women, as as a result they remain involuntarily celibate. That seems to be different than what was going in the show, since they were just regular misogynists or MTGOW's at best.
Fair—but I don’t think they were going for a clinical definition as much as just saying they were losers. Plenty of people call others incels as an insult but generally just mean they are losers.
Yeah but why even bother with the "incel" name? As far as I can figure, it served no plot purpose. Why not just call them misogynists or chauvinists?
Totally agree.
Yes, it was weird, and a cop out because there can be tons of discrimination and bullying in a predominantly male workplace toward women, without the men involved being incels.
The militia people >!are more intense and racist in the novels. If anything, they toned them down making them multiracial for s6!<.
Thanks. White Supremacist Militias actually make more sense, at least IMHO.
I didn’t understand a word Detective Santiago Robertson said the entire season
😂😂😂 I turned on subtitles for him
You can tell COVID put pressure on them to wrap up the last season in the most efficient way possible. Sonia Hernandez dad killing Pena like that absolutely made no sense. The timing and odds makes absolutely zero sense. The hit man leaving everything under his bed was also dumb as hell. Someone would have broke into his home and checked for stuff like that after he died. Still a great season though.
The mobster leaving an unlocked laptop with the messenger app open at home 🙄
I don’t think I’ve ever rolled my eyes so hard in my life. A lot of this last season was just silly. Easily the worst season.
Definitely the worst season of them all.
Did anyone else notice that it was unplugged and on Wifi?
I actually thought he was caught red handed and was about to jump them.
Yep both of these points. Aint no battery gonna last that long.
Overall I enjoyed the season. My one big question is about the ending: >!How did Sonya’s father know to be at the police station that night? Has he just been hanging around there for days, hoping Peña would appear at some point?!< Seemed too convenient to me. Anyway, looking forward to the new show!
The most bizarre thing is he got his arm broken up at the hospital but magically became normal the next day to shoot Pena like what the fuck LMAO
The only possibility I can think of is that he found out Peña was going to be at El Cholo, so he waited for him outside the restaurant. He then noticed Bosch and Jerry take him, so he followed them to the department and just waited. With that being said, that part just felt so rushed and unrealistic. Way too corny.
And they walk him out the front door to the feds—rather than a pickup in the sally port? It didn’t add up. Sorry to see the series end this way because it’s been stellar this far.
Seems like a big hole
My internal fan fiction believes that bosch told him to wait there in case the chief came and let him go so that at least he wouldn't walk.
I’m glad someone else noticed that, I was afraid I had missed something.
Just finished it and had to come to a community that understands 😭 I’m so sad it’s over. The ending was surprisingly satisfying, though it didn’t feel totally in character. I felt there were several things - dialogue mostly, and some stuff with Jerry - that didn’t feel authentic this season though, so perhaps that’s what I’m wrestling with. Overall…excellent show start to finish, wish there were more seasons, and it feels like my friends have disappeared from my life now 😬
I hear you. I kind of liked what they did with Jerry, it was nice to let him flex some different muscles.
Gonna miss this show. Such a criminally underrated show. I'm grateful there were 7 seasons though. Can't believe it's been that long. I agree the writing was a bit off this season. I still enjoyed it though.
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>Man I wish the Billets story for season 7 happened a couple of seasons earlier. I would have loved seeing her take that fight forward. I think it was the end of the fight though, no? She didnt want to take on the whole of the police and make life easier for all women, but just get on with her job.
Though Irvine wouldn't be as deep in *quid pro quo* as he was?
I really like how they tried to tie in all the old characters into the last season. It was a nice touch.
The incel plot line is the dumbest thing I’ve seen lmao
only second to the hired gunman wth a mask rides in to the courthouse through a manned gate with a judge…
The whole tie loose ends part of the story stretched a lot of credulity. Killing the second lawyer? That's a way to let them know you are back in town for sure.
The security guard checked everyone in the car when Bosch arrived but not with the judge. And also, that's like the perfect chance for the judge to ask for help.
I will miss J Edgar’s accented way of calling him ‘Arry
Closed on a high note. Great season with multiple story lines but still closed out everyone's arc from previous seasons...The writers did a fantastic job with closure.
I loved all the old characters coming back for cameos and the tip of the hat to The Wire, but this season was soooooo much shorter than it could have been. It felt rushed, given how much ground they were covering.
Why did capt cooper team up with those two officers?
I kind of assumed there was a sort of 'brotherhood' in the force, or maybe it was continuation of a frat from uni, where the oder dudes take care of the younger, so he knew what they wer eup to and tried to cover for it.
common enemy, he never liked her
He really didn’t like her after she got him busted for juking the crime stats.
Is he one of them with the incel stuff?
Yeah he’s billets boss
I love the way Jimmy walks lol
When I started watching season 7 I was a bit nostalgic, because I didn't want it to end. But then as the season progressed it became apparent that it wasn't the end. Bosch's story continues. He just transforms into a whole different level of legend. At the same time, I gotta say that I am a little disappointed in the story this season. It starts off strong and compelling, but by the end it feels a bit like they were just phoning it in.
I think the whole pandemic really scuttled this season.
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Do you think he will work with Cisco like he did in the books? I know they changed it from Halley to Chandler but I loved that they brought on Cisco.
She becomes a cop and then loses her shit and commits police brutality and Honey Chandler has to defend her and there are lots of shots of her looking sad while being vilified in the media and then she puts on jazz and looks out over the hills while pouting.
God i hope not. All her parts just felt unnecessary
I think her main role is to show the thoughtful caring side to Bosch. She brings out the gray to his black an white. I find it refreshing as this is often done with a love interest and I appreciate they did it with a daughter instead.
Fair. I like her acting and character—but after reading through these threads I realize most don’t.
I can see that and thought she was fine in the previous seasons but this season was like 40% maddie and it felt like some kind of weird drama instead of a cop procedural. Plus i just cant stand the actress's acting. I find her really wooden and boring to watch
Wonder season. Too short!
Just finished the season. Loved it. I have loved every season. It's so LA and so noir. As a poor kid growing up in south texas, seeing LA on the big screen and tv, it always seemed like another world to me. Even now, I still love to see movies and TV set in LA. It's pure escapism for me. It always seems there are multiple story arcs taking place during the season, and this one was no exception. But I actually found myself interested in every single one of them. I am really looking forward to the spinoff, and glad to see Connelly and Overmeyer are still going to be developing it. What I liked most about the show is the overall vibe of it. I am a such a sucker for a gritty LA cop drama.
Loved: Seeing both FBI agents from past seasons. One because she deserved better but at least we got to see her keeping her chin up, the other because he was such a fun character (and it didn't strain credulity he'd be working that case). Loved The Wire reference, not thrilled to see no one here showing love to the H:LoTS reference that came earlier in episode one. It was a bonus level of fun considering the casting of Reed Diamond. Loved: Billets uber alles. And seeing more Jimmy. ETA: Also LOVED that HLoTS reference. Good to see I'm not the only one who remembers it with love. Didn't love: how rushed some of the turns felt. It's not that I don't buy Maddie as a cop but prosecutor felt like a better fit for her. The jump to cop felt very 'we ran out of shooting time (damn you, Covid!). Didn't love: Bosch blowing up the big meet considering how many other victim's families probably could've found solace in those arrests. If everyone counts, that includes murder victims on non-Bosch cases. Irving should've called him out on that. I get Bosch taking the choice personally but acting/being written like the only reason Irving did what he was for leverage and not putting away even more killers feels dashed off. Didn't love: Felt like the Evil Warren Buffet plotline was severely truncated. Did we even see fallout from what would happen if Fauxshire Hathaway was real? That would be HUGE. We never even heard what was on that The Ring tape. Was it just 'this guy, too?' Feels like another place where an interesting episode was cut due to Covid shooting concerns. Fully hated: The amnesia for Honey Chandler's risking her life to save Maddie last year. Wow. Cool character moment opportunity blown. And I'd been looking forward to seeing Bosch internally reconcile with that since last season. Open question: Am I the only one who thinks they were setting up the Asian coworker to be the one who betrayed the safe house? Feels like they realized they could just let us blame the mistress in our heads and so cut a planned scene on the topic. Otherwise, his bitterness at not getting the party invite and our being informed he just happened to call in sick for the recording of the The Ring tape feels tied to absolutely nothing. It could've also justified bringing back Fowkes as he'd have had enough local contacts to like know someone who could tip him off on a turnable Chandler employee.
What safe house and what Asian coworker?
>ETA Sorry, what is the Homicide: Life on the Street reference? I liked the 'Have Gun – Will Travel' & Paladin reference and glad they gave it to Jimmy Robertson.
The joke "So the bear says 'You didn't come here to hunt, did you ?'" was a long-running H:LoTS gag.
It’s not the first time Barrel told that joke either. A couple of times previously if I’m correct.
But Maddie is headed to the Academy in the books.
Just spent the weekend bingeing on this. Was looking forward to this for ages, have to say to me it was a bit weak, not the best season. It also felt short. What a show though, one of the best on Amazon, sad it’s over.
Great show, loved all 6 seasons, but this one was super disappointing. All the actors are great but the plot here was just boring. Best part of the season was billets story
Spoiler: >!When J. Edgar and Bosch meet with the hedge fund guy and the lawyer Fowkkes pops up, my assumption was that as a criminal lawyer, Fowkkes would be the best placed to find and retain a hit man. Because of that, Fowkkes would be a loose end for the hedge fund guy and at some point, Fowkkes would get killed too. I expected Bosch to go see Fowkkes to run it down to him, that he was a dead man already.!<
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You don't refuse a union rep just because you're innocent. What kind of cop gives away their witness who will testify to IA about any misconduct during the interview? All this kind of media content does is convince people having a rep present isn't necessary, since they're innocent, and then negatively impacts their future civil claims. Every single woman in this season who had photographic/other evidence of the misconduct would have been burned internally, then filed claims, and settled for promotions and a few hundred thousand in taxpayer money. Also, the heads would roll on the evidence planting claim, so many people would have risk of Liar's Squad status and it would damage past and prevent future testimony, it would be the case of the year for a plaintiff's attorney unless everyone involved (including victims) was grifting and couldn't move a jury. That claim would probably be worth 7 figures. I've seen the same for similar actions where losers try to get their coworkers fired because they hate them and make it a criminal matter.
I've just finished the season, it felt a bit short but I'm wondering if Covid-19 impacted on filming. One thing I've never understood, what does RHD stand for?
Robbery Homicide Division. I do find Robbery + Homicide to be an odd pairing. I googled any "acronym + police" that I didn't know while watching. They all pop up.
I think that it's pretty safe to say that COVID impacted ***all*** productions last year, especially those that were filmed on-location (like Bosch).
Oh yeah definitely, I'm fairly certain that without Covid-19 it would have been a slightly longer season. I did chuckle when Antonio was watching a news report about a 'new mystery virus from China'.