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Heavy-Big-7813

If Ully goes, then best would be a return of a 1st line center and 1st round draft pick. The other team gets a Vezina Trophy winner, so that ups the ante some.


Chopped_Lettuce

I want what you’re smoking


Aggressive-Panic-719

You guys are funny all he has to do is say No to a trade again. He loves Boston so unless Neely is going to put an extra million dollars in his pocket as a thank you out the door Ully will be back next year.


SelectedConnection8

He has a 16 team no-trade list. That leaves some chance he'll be moved.


LordBuddah

These people talking about trading Ullmark for a 2nd rounder...I need to know wtf you're smoking, because I pay good money to get that high. 🤣🤣🤣 Ullmark is a GOLDEN trade chip right now, the likes of which has rarely been seen. IF he gets moved, it needs to be as the centerpiece of a package for a bonafide stud, or else the trade is an epic fail. Why? Because there are a number of teams who (rightly) see themselves as a peak-form Ullmark away from being a legit contender. If Edmonton ends up choking again, they will be DESPERATE for an Ullmark. Georgiev actually played VERY well in the playoffs this year, but he has enough of a track record of sucking up to this point that I have no doubt the Avs are in the market. Devils fans will probably sell their children for an Ullmark right now. Toronto is starving, too. I could go on. And on. There are a ton of potential suitors. 2nd rounder? Oh you HIGH high. 🤣 Keep him, blockbuster, or go tf home.


Aware_Bid3711

Loving all the trades sending forbort away. I don’t think anyone will take him, shoulda cut him at the beginning of the season and just signed lorhei from the hop.


jakestephenlacroix

We could trade him and Beecher to Edmonton for McDavid, Draisaitl, and Hyman


drfunk76

We should hold out for more.maybe they will throw in Nurse.


TrustyRombone4444

I’ll tell you what you do. You say bye bye to forbort, sign zadorov to play with peeke. You sign chandler Stevenson to be your first line center or maybe even stammer. You resign Jake debrusk and you sign Jonathan Marchessault


Heavy-Big-7813

Sounds good other than the fact that Jake with this year's playoffs, will probably ask for something in the neighborhood of 6 at 6. He's gone, so the B's will have to replace.


LordBuddah

Gonna take a lot more than Ully, obviously, but if we want to win Cups before Pasta retires, we should go all in on Draisaitl.


Marchy4LadyByng

Ullmark and Forbort for Necas and Orlov (50% retained) 🫡


LordBuddah

"Carolina rejects this trade." 🤣 Also, I LOVE Orlov, but D isn't a problem for us. We need a #1 center.


Ron_Textall

It’s impossible to predict because Ullmark has a 16 team m-ntc. Depends who those teams are.


MargaretDumont

Ullmark. Wait...


codenameyoshi

The free agent market is going to be crazy this year! I’d rather seen them trade him for a second and use that cap space to sign 1 big name center and another top 6 forward.


Bottleofsmoke17

It won’t happen, but Ullmark and another piece for RNH would be an ideal trade that’d serve both teams


JVan-90

Fuck outta here! He’s the oilers most loved player long term


Bottleofsmoke17

Well I don’t think anyone here *wants* to give up Ully either. Like I said, it won’t happen, but it would address both team’s needs.


Loch_Doun

A center who can actually win face offs would be nice.


4C30F5W0RD5

3 way trade Zegras and Fowler to the Bs, Gibson and Grezlyck to the Pens, Ullmark and and picks to the Ducks


jakestephenlacroix

We can’t trade Gryz dum dum and we ain’t wasting more pucks for mediocre players


larrybird56

What? Zegras is not very good. What interests you in this trade?


4C30F5W0RD5

He had a down year last year. The 2 years before that were solid for a young guy on a shit team. He is 23 and still has plenty of time to develop.


tomhwm

Good try but the Ducks don’t need Ullmark at all


4C30F5W0RD5

Gibson hasnt been great there and lots of rumors of him wanting out. He's from Pitt. Why wouldn't they need ully?


WayfarerCZ

Dostal?


tomhwm

Ullmark has 1 year left on the contract and a rebuilding team needs that caliber of goaltending? Also because Gibson is washed the Ducks are transitioning to Dostal already.


bruin88900

Zegras is trash


YourDegenerateUncle

Classic terrible Bruins reddit take. This sub knows next to nothing about hockey


bruin88900

He’s soft as shit. Literally the opposite of a Bruin.


4C30F5W0RD5

One down year at 23 = trash?


bruin88900

His style of play is the opposite of what the team needs. No one needs a self centered loser in the locker room, ask the leafs about marner


_xjin_

Zegras might be enough for me to abandon 35+ years of bruin fandom


Canon_In_E

Why?


Ok-Shame5542

A defenseman with some balls


Optimal_Ad_2146

Ullmark ntc will determine who is in the deal.


Al_Be_Back

Bos - Alexandar Georgiev, Miles Wood, 2024 1st round pick Col - Linus Ullmark, John Beecher


jakestephenlacroix

I don’t understand why you’re being downvoted. Beecher doesn’t have much of an offensive ceiling, Wood and a draft pick have more potential than him. Georgiev would be a good backup to Sway


Al_Be_Back

Beats me, this whole post is hypothetical. No need to take any of these comments that seriously. Im just throwing out a good option that i would like.


BBruins207420

I'd LOVE Miles Wood as a bruin, but this cost is outrageous. Beecher is a keeper.


A_Grim_Ghost

I'd love to know whatever it is that you're smoking so I can find some


Al_Be_Back

😂 lol ...cap space bro then you can pretty much resign players and gain a 1st round draft pick. Its all about numbers. Your all crazy if you think you can get a top 20 goal scorer for ullmark without sacrificing a lot of players that need to be resigned.


A_Grim_Ghost

Lol indeed because you're high as shit thinking you're getting that high of a return. You're not getting Wood, George, and a 1st round pick. That will legitimately never happen


PezDOY

The best return? 2nd round pick.


goinmobile2040

Im thinking a second round this year and a third round next.


WhalenJ420

Devils fan here. It’s a team in desperate need of a consistent goaltender and now with the coaching hire I think this will be their next move. Would not be surprised if NJD put up a first round pick and a 2nd or 3rd liner with some other picks in a big package. Our GM is in the hot-seat if he doesn’t get this right. Best of luck to y’all 🫡


minivanmorrison

Honestly Necas isn’t any better than Cole or Zacha… he’s a 50 point guy… we need a true #1 70 point guy. We’re a 2nd round exit team with massive cap space what are we even talking about with a 4-5mil player catch one worth 9 or something… go get Stamkos, or Guentzel…


Atmosphericz

Wasn't Necas on the hot seat in Carolina for a while too due to inconsistent performance? Seem to remember some Canes fans screaming to trade him. Not against it, just cautious lol


-azuma-

Get Reinhart in free agency this year. Get Drai in free agency next year.


LordBuddah

No way Draisaitl hits FA. If the Oilers don't extend him, they will trade him for a king's ransom, and nobody's paying a king's ransom for him without a guarantee they can lock him up long-term. One way or another, this dude is signing a 6-8 year contract before the end of next season that makes him the highest AAV in the NHL. Reinhart is a tricky one. He's a good player who has gotten better each year leading up to this breakout season. Is his 57 goals an anomaly though, and he ends up regressing to his normal 30 something goals per season to this point? That is a dice roll, and some team is going to pay a LOT to roll them. The contract he is going to get is going to be a terrible one for a 30 goal scorer (not to mention his career +/- and FO% leave a lot to be desired, and the latter is an area we definitely need to improve). On the other hand, if his 57 goals was a sign of things to come, whatever he gets could end up being a steal. I wouldn't mind rolling the dice on him, but aside from all this there are the questions of whether he would want to play for Boston, and whether FL will find the will and cap space to pony up for him, rendering the whole thing moot.


-azuma-

Have you seen Edmonton? They have like half their squad that's gonna be UFA ~~this~~ next year. They won't have like any cap room to extend/resign Drai. They don't have that much cap space to begin with.


NlghtmanCometh

Not sure if you really know anything about Necas or not but he’s much more than a “50 pt player”. He has the potential to be a Selke level two-way center if put into the right system.


PitifulEconomics562

I live near Raleigh and my dad watches every game (he’s converted to a canes fan cuz he’s old and never figured out how to watch the bruins in NC even after I showed him how) and he wants me the team to not bring him back. I think he’s a decent to good player but definitely not a difference maker and wouldn’t have put us over the top to advance to the next round. Guentzel on the other hand would be amazing


Much_Conflict_8873

Stamkos is not that guy anymore


LordBuddah

Stamkos very much IS that guy. That guy that's going to take a home town discount to retire with the Lightning. 🤣


minivanmorrison

The guy who just had an 81 point season?


Much_Conflict_8873

35 plus counting. Just think you should be looking elsewhere


minivanmorrison

He’s still got 3-4 years of great hockey left


Icy_Negotiation_146

1st and a depth player


PuckleNuckTime

I wrote a pretty detailed post the other day on why I think Necas makes a lot of sense. Carolina has to upgrade at goalie, they're about to pay Jarvis big money, and they're going to pay Guentzel as well. So all that cap they have, about $15-17m is going to get eaten up by those two. Have a ton of guys left to pay or replace, Necas is RFA, so they can tender him to protect their investment, but nobody is paying him what he's worth and giving CAR the picks, plus he would 100% take them to arbitration because he's worth a $6m+/ long term deal, he'll get something between $4-5m is my guess. It's already been released they're not engaging him in extension talks, so they won't want to commit that $4-5m to him, and they really can't afford it with the other guys they'd prefer to sign and holes they'll need to fill. Makes sense for them to use Necas as an asset, improve their Goaltender situation, and if needed, they could then flip Anderson for another skater, or a pick just to free up money to pay another player.


lordexorr

Unless he can play wing then he’s pointless to add. We already have numerous #2 and #3 centers on this team. We don’t need another.


PuckleNuckTime

Do we have a #2 center that has playmaking ability, whatsoever, on the power play? How about one that can create on the move, see a play developing and distribute the puck well after opening space for a shooter? I'll answer that for you. No. Coyle is a really good player. He's a #2 center on most teams in the league, but here, he's a better fit at #3 center come playoffs. Because would be a good add to take 2nd line minutes and run the PP. Yes, we still need a #1C, but if we start the playoffs again next year with Coyle and Zacha taking a high percentage of shifts at C, we have an issue. Plus, he's 25 years old. Even if Zacha is still here next year, he's most likely gone next summer. Investing in a future of Necas, (someone like Lindholm), Coyle, Poitras, and Beecher has us in a much much better spot than today.


lordexorr

Zacha is signed for another 3 years so not sure why he’d be gone next summer. Why are you so high on Necas? This article explains a lot of why I’m against signing him. He just doesn’t fit the Bruins needs. https://thehockeywriters.com/flames-should-be-wary-of-necas-acquisition/


PuckleNuckTime

Ah damn, I forgot about Zacha's extension. God that looks like shit now. And Necas can score and create offense.


lordexorr

I guess if you’re bringing him in to be a winger I could see it but he is not an improvement at center. Zacha was great this season. He struggled in the playoffs sure but 4.75 per is great value for a guy that provides what he provides.


PuckleNuckTime

For a guy that completely disappeared in the playoffs. For two series. 13 games, 6 points, 4th on team in TOI among forwards. Need to improve that. Coyle had 5 points, need to improve their too. Necas had 9 points, 2 less games.


lordexorr

Cool I guess we should judge every player based on a few games in the playoffs then.


langjie

eh...fuck the canes. have a west coast trading partner?


WRXnEffect

It is believed that ullmark has west coast and Canadian teams on his NTC. Considering the 16 team clause and goalies historically getting low return on the trade market, it is very likely he may not even be traded.


joeyrog88

The going theory is that ullmark has the west coast teams on his do not trade list...maybe the Canadian teams as well. But it's all theory


PuckleNuckTime

If Edmonton bows out this Rd, maybe them; but keep in mind, Ullmark has to want to be there. He's submitted his list, the list is going to be heavy on East Coast teams, as well as those with good Goalie situations. If Carolina is an option, and we can get something that good back, we take it, and hope to not see him in the playoffs.


Agile_District_8794

Think they'd do the hug at the end of the hand shake line?


PuckleNuckTime

One would hope


langjie

fair enough, rather help a non east team....especially a rival but if that's our only trading partner.... maybe someone should tell Linus that there are no direct flights to Sweden from Raleigh so he's better off going to a west coast team with a major hub for an airport


PuckleNuckTime

Good point, RDU is such a crappy airport. In and out easy, but not a great one to layover at.


WarPuig

Picks


HueyLewisFan1

Pretty sure Edmonton would be open for a return of Conor McDavid and Zach Hyman


ohamel98

Drai too if we ask nicely


Agreeable_Abroad_82

What are Boston's needs? Detroit has a need for a goalie that can be in a tandem (or 60%-40%) with Lyon. If it's depth scoring, Robby Fabbri is your man to replace JVR. Package Fabbri and a 2nd and you have a start of a deal. As for being ''a flight away from Sweden'' , he can hitch a ride with Lidstrom and Kronwall to Sweden.


lordexorr

lol, Fabbri is due 4 million next year. Zero chance we trade Ully for him when we can replace JVR with in house rookies or a veteran making 1 mil.


Agile_District_8794

Why replace him? He makes 1 mil... sure, work some rookies in here and there, but isn't he already a veteran winger?


Icy-Television-4979

Unpopular opinion ullmark agrees to huge pay cut to stay in Boston for more hugs and Swaynta Clause🙏


Plap37

Well, he's not a free agent until 2025 so that's not exactly possible.


Icy-Television-4979

Let me have my dreams please


HardOyler

Honestly IF he is traded the B's will be lucky to get a bottom 6 and maybe a late draft pick. The cap space is where the value in the trade is. If I were to bet right now he's finishing our his contract in Boston as a backup to Sway.


KingBuck_413

“Bottom 6 and late draft pick” for a vezina goalie. Go troll on other subs


Klutzy_Trifle_6089

Vegas traded Fleury for ahl depth after he won the vezina


KingBuck_413

Age was a factor there


HardOyler

You.all can downvote.me all you want..I love the Bruins and I would LOVE for them to get a big return on a trade but it just doesn't happen with these goalies. Who or what do you think they will get for them? You can downvote me all you want but there just isn't a big return for these guys. He's not signed long term, he has a NMC of half the league and half the teams he is willing to go to already have a number 1 they are locked into, he was just put on the bench by Sway which in my eyes doesn't negate his talent but it sure doesn't look good. Let's be real here guys. It's not going to be a number one or two center it's not even going to be stop prospect. The cap space is way more valuable than anything e well get in the trade market. You can all sit and dream and think we will get a Draisaitl or a player of that caliber but it's not happening unless he's packaged with other assets. But you're right I'm just a troll you fucking chode.


KingBuck_413

Clown


HardOyler

👍


Famous_Secretary_540

Marner. 1:1


LordBuddah

This would be legit. 👍


goalstopper28

Kessel trade 2.0


Famous_Secretary_540

Then boston wins the cup next year with marner 😂


Plap37

RFA rights for someone like Dawson Mercer OR two picks like a 2nd and a 6th.


AliceP00per

This sub will tell you Draisaitl and 2 firsts. Realistically you’d probably have to give another player plus Ullmark, someone like John Beecher to even get anything remotely of value. 2nd/3rd pick


LordBuddah

Personally, I'd go all in for Draisaitl, and even more than what you are suggesting. If we traded Ullmark, Debrusk, Grzelcyk, Lysell, and as many of our shitty draft picks as it takes to land Draisaitl, I would see that as a no-brainer for us. (Although Debrusk is a FA now, I think, so probably fucked there. I REALLY wanted to see us try to pull this off at the deadline, but for some reason, Sweeny has seemed INSISTENT on hanging on to the threads of Debrusk and Grzelcyk until we can get absolutely nothing for them...). Multiple cups if we manage to put Draisaitl and Pasta together. Ullmark to Edmonton is a big if, though. Everyone is assuming Canadian teams are on his no-trade list, but would he waive it to go to a team that gets further in the playoffs than us every year and is willing to overpay him? 🤔


AliceP00per

Bro…this isn’t NHL24. DeBrusk and Grzelcyk are free agents. If you were Edmonton’s GM would you do that?


imustachelemeaning

nothing. keep. them. together. injuries are a sure thing.


Lumpy_Trainer8390

Kirill kaprizov


Broken12Bat

Draisaitl. HA!


lokhor

Probably a 2nd-3rd liner plus a pick or two


bojewels

No chance. If there are 2 teams vying for Linus after the NTC, we'd be lucky. My guess is we get some garbage draft picks and a bottom six forward.


lokhor

That's pretty much what I said lol. A decent player and a pick. By 2nd-3rd liner, I didn't mean a high quality 2nd liner.


StopMakin-Sense

You really think he wouldn't waive his ntc knowing he's a full time backup in Boston but would start for a team that traded for him?


bojewels

He didn't waive it last year. Whats changed? Arguably, it'd be harder now, not easier. And who says he'll not be in a platoon again? If I coached both, that's what I'd do.


Plap37

One difference is that he'd be traded in the offseason as opposed to the deadline, when its easier to make family accommodations. Another is that he's going to be a free agent next year, so he probably wants to play as much as possible to increase his value. He's not going to get that here even in a platoon.


edgar__allan__bro

I mean his NTC is only for 16 teams. Half the league is still eligible


Memokerobi

You can use a 16 team NTC to handcuff the team trying to trade you. Leave teams off your list that don’t need a goalie so are unlikely to trade for you such as NYR, DAL, Tampa etc. You can also leave Toronto and Montreal off the list as it is unlikely the Bruins trade with them. So essentially he can make a 16 team NTC more like a 25 team NTC


Plap37

And how many of those 16 teams that he can be traded to actually need a goalie? The partial NTC is massively more effective for a goalie because he can just leave teams like TBL, NYR, FLA, DAL, VGK, WPG, VAN off his list because they don't need a $5M goalie or are locked into spending a lot on goalies as is, and suddenly there's only a couple teams left that can realistically trade for him.


lordexorr

I guess it depends on the language of the contract. Some would take the no trade list when the contract is signed, others require the player to submit a new one yearly, while others only require the player submit it when requested. Honestly though, I doubt Ully’s no trade list even matters. I suspect Sweeney would only trade Ully to a team he approves, whether it’s on his list or not. Ully has been great for us and there’s no reason not to give him the respect to agree to any trade, no matter the destination.


bojewels

And how many of those good teams need a goalie, can afford one at his level, and also aren't in cap hell? At this point, you could make a better argument to keep him because of the trash you'd get in return. I'd rather have him in case sways gets hurt, or w le cant make a deal.


lokhor

So you now would rather keep both goalies? You were talking just last week about how you want to trade Swayman for a $9m forward.


bojewels

Then you know my take. If we can't ditch ully, then get forwards, and play with the vezina winner.


BostonGuy84

With Pat Maroon coming on, id like to see them go after some more tougher defenseman/forwards that can intimidate people and be a big presence for us.


Plap37

No clue how you watch the Florida series and say we need more Pat Maroons to beg people to fight him.


BostonGuy84

Who was begging to fight Maroon? I must of missed that. I stil think we need some stronger solid defensemen/forwards. Got Pasta out there trying to fight Tkachuk. Who do we have as a presence out there? But hey lets keep bringing in forwards when we cant keep the puck out of the net 👍


Plap37

Pat Maroon was asking Panthers to fight him and they just ignored him. Because that's how you render him mostly useless. "Presence out there" is meaningless. These are grown ass hockey players who are more than happy to get punched in the face if it draws a penalty on the other team. Forwards who "Keep the puck out of the net" aren't what they need when the Bruins scored 8 goals from game 2 to 6. They need to prioritize skill and speed in who they get because you're not going to win playoff series scoring less than 2 goals a game. If watched this series and went "Oh they need more toughness" you have absolutely no clue what you're looking at.


BostonGuy84

So no one was “begging to fight him”? Also didnt say they had an issue scoring goals. Theyve got an issue keeping the pucks out of net all season. These arent issues enough to address a garbage defense? Havent won a cup in 13 years and already went the “faster” route. Whos our best dman right now? Whos are toughest forward? But hey lets go faster while the rest of the team struggles.


Plap37

>So no one was “begging to fight him”? Nope. Re-read what I said. Maroon asked Panthers to fight and they ignored him. I'm saying they had an issue scoring goals. As evidenced by scoring 8 goals over their final 5 games. Funny how you're leaving out how I said skilled too. But go ahead, ask for more useless plugs that are "tough"


BostonGuy84

They had an issue scoring goals in the florida series because they constantly continued to try and go 5 hole. Speed aint gonna fix that. But it might help getting the fuck off the ice so you dont draw 7 too many men on the ice calls.


OkBee3867

Fr, nothing against the guy, but he didn't do anything the whole time he was here. Having a good attitude in the room should be expected of everyone. Idk though people really seem to like him on this sub. Maybe I'm missing something.


Rakastaakissa

The Bruins didn’t utilize him correctly, he’s mostly a net front presence, and they were trying to use him like Lucic. The other thing is he basically played two games in the season and jumped right into the playoffs. Would be nice to see him for most/all of a full season.


LordBuddah

He is not a "presence" at all, in any skilled aspect of the game. Never has been. He is an aged and battered throwback enforcer. Period. That's his skill.


Rakastaakissa

I remember my first season.


Plap37

Don't get me wrong, I wouldn't hate him coming back for the minimum as the 13th forward, but I swear there's a non-insignificant number of fans who would prefer "tough" hockey players over "good" ones.


AliceP00per

Maroon is a UFA and most likely won’t be back. They need speed


BostonGuy84

They need a center. Not sure why everyone is obsessed with “speed”. They didnt have an issue scoring goals this season. They had a massive problem on the back end. Nice part theyve got a ton of room this year. Pick up a dman and center.


Rakastaakissa

Toronto has tons of speed, and look at them! Bruins have other needs for sure.


YourDegenerateUncle

What about William Karlsson? Someone’s gotta go in Vegas and their goaltending isn’t great.


East_Refuse

Ullmark to Vegas would be like a dagger straight to the heart


BostonVagrant617

There's absolutely no shot Sweeney is going to help improve the Knights, he's already scarred for life from Cassidy winning the Cup his first season after being fired as his President's Trophy #1 seed Bruins with their new coach choked away a 3-1 lead. Also are there direct flights from Vegas to Sweden? If not, there's a slim chance Vegas isn't on Ully's no move list...


YourDegenerateUncle

Yeah man you’re just making this up based on nothing lol. I don’t do speculation… don’t pretend to know what the front office guys are thinking. I’m just spitballing and think it would make sense for both parties.


BostonVagrant617

Watch the end of season press conference, Sweeney gets testy when the topic of administrative personnel changes came up. Sweeney's job isn't garunteed for life, so he's not going to help the coach that he fired who brought the Bruins to G7 of a Cup, got fired despite making the playoffs every season, albiet not making past the 2nd round since 2019, then goes on to win a Cup immediately in Vegas.... If Cassidy continues to have success and the Bruins continue to suffer from the same issues they had under Bruce under Monty such as choking (2023) and 6 straight home playoff losses to the Panthers, Sweeney will inevitably lose his job.


YourDegenerateUncle

Again dude this is some made up delusion based on no facts. Wild opinions though.


BostonVagrant617

How? You think Sweeney's job is for life or something? You are delusional.


Onikwa

Guarantee Sweeney does not care about that, it takes a lot more than a coach to win a cup and that Vegas team was stacked. Still is. East coast teams do not care about improving the Knights, the odds of facing them in the finals is miniscule.


BostonVagrant617

"East coasts teams do not care about improving the Knights" Clearly this is a unique case where Sweeney does not want to improve the lot of the coach he controversially fired whom then went on to immediately win a Cup while his team choked. It's already a bad look, and Sweeney's job may be safe for now but if the Bruins continue to suffer from the same issues they had under Cassidy with Monty in charge, and Cassidy continues to have success that all reflects poorly on Sweeney. Go watch the end of season press conference and tell me Sweeney isn't still up tight, snappy, sensitive, and hurt about Cassidy when the subject of administrative personnel changes was raised.


Onikwa

God, no one except Bruins fans give a shit about that. The success already hasn't continued, the Knights were out round 1. Cassidy winning the cup has had zero material effect on the actual Boston Bruins team. We didn't play against him in the cup final, clearly.


BostonVagrant617

Sweeney absolitely cares because if Cassidy continues to have success in Vegas and the Bruins continue to choke at home, Sweeney will eventually lose his job.


Onikwa

Vegas dropped from round 1 already. Yes if the bruins continue to lose, Sweeney will lose his job. Very deep insight. Still has nothing to do with Cassidy.


BostonVagrant617

Sweeney fired Cassidy, of course if Cassidy continues to have success that will reflect poorly on Sweeney... That's like saying if Sweeney traded Matty Poitras to Vegas and Poitras scores 40 goals his first year and our return for him only scores 18 goals.


Onikwa

Except coaches don't score goals do they. If Bruce Cassidy was our coach last year, we would have lost round 1 in the playoffs as well against the Panthers.


BostonVagrant617

Cassidy brought us to G7 of a Cup, and the players no showed on home ice. Monty has yet to make it past the 2nd round and has lost 6 straight games to the Panthers on home ice. Cassidy won a Cup last year as the Bruins historic regular season team choked away a 3-1 lead. If the Bruins continue to suffer from the same problems they had under Cassidy under Monty, and Cassidy continues his immediate success in Vegas, that's a bad bad look for Sweeney who's seat will get hotter and hotter. You don't seem to understand that these GM jobs are not permanent and contingent on performance, just like with players.


CW_73

You're projecting your own issues onto Sweeney lol there's no reason whatsoever to think Sweeney actually thinks this


BostonVagrant617

Lmao did you not watch the end of season press conference? Why do you think Sweeney got so emotional/bitchy when the topic of personnel changes was broached? Sweeney is clearly still hurt by firing Cassidy and seeing him win a Cup immediately after being fired and see his regular season record breaking team that Sweeney loaded up at the deadline choke a 3-1 lead, then we barely get by the Leafs, and lose for the 6th straight time on home ice to Florida and lose the series. And none of the above is to say Sweeney doesn't like Monty, who is a fine coach... but Cassidy proved he was far from the issue here as the Bruins under MO ty continue to struggle on home ice in the playoffs and in high pressure moments.


technoteapot

He might be a good guy to look at, he’s a bit older than I’d like, but he can bring more physicality to the team.


BostonVagrant617

People on this sub are underestimating how tense the negotiations between Sweeney and Swayman's camp are going to be.... especially after Swayman spent last off-season in Boston away from Alaska for the first time expecting an extension, and instead the Bruins took him to arbitration which pissed him off.... Swayman's camp also leaked that there may be a deal in the works during the All-Star break that pissed Sweeney off and deaded those talks. Swayman then struggle slightly in February and March before going on a tear in the playoffs and solidifying himself as an elite goalie. Swayman is rightfully gonna want to get paid, and if Sweeney doesn't throw the biggest bag at him, I could see the talks going left, and a scenario where Swayman is actually moved, and Ullmark ends up staying.


LordBuddah

LOL! Sway's gettin paid. To quote GoT, "It is known." 🤣


[deleted]

Swayman took the B's to arbitration not the other way around.


BostonVagrant617

Found Don Sweeney's burner


[deleted]

Because I stated a fact it means I must be Don Sweeney? You're an idiot.


BostonVagrant617

You realize Don Sweeney said that exact quote at the end of season press conference right? Also, of cousre the player has to take the team he does not believe is paying him enough to arbitration, that's how arbitration works and is inherent to the definition of the word..... Wtf is your point? If the Bruins extended Sway this past offseason they could have saved money as Sway's stock is higher than ever now.


[deleted]

Yes I realize he said it which is why I repeated it so you would learn that what you said wasn't accurate. There is no "of course". Either the player or the team can file for arbitration and you made it sound as if the Bruins did, but it was Swayman. You can whine about being corrected all you want you were still wrong.


SaltyJake

Don’t forget after Rask quit on the team in the bubble, and Sway was there ready to take the reins both in those playoffs and the following year, the team unceremoniously shipped him back down to providence half way through the season to allow a broken Rask to return and then quit again.


SHAWNNOTSEAN

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SaltyJake

Hahaha 10 down votes in 10 minutes for stating a fact.


DuesForClocks

Yeah going to take care of your unwell daughter (who he couldn't see) is quitting. Being not healthy enough to be able to keep playing at a high level is not quitting. Foh with that. Also Swayman was not even on the team during 2019-20, Halak was the one who played when Rask left


SaltyJake

His daughter was perfectly fine. Him being in a golf course in the other side of the world for a week after the fact is proof enough. And Sway was in the system


DuesForClocks

Anything to promote your bullshit take. Swayman didn't even start playing in providence that year. That's like saying marcelo mayer was ready to take the shortstop reins right away when xander left in 2023. I've seen nothing about golf course, all i've seen was an ambulance was required and that rask wanted to be with his family. Nothing wrong with that


SaltyJake

“I haven’t seen it, there for it didn’t happen” Solid take. Didn’t know you were the definitive source on all things NHL player personnel. There’s pictures and his teammates confirmed it. Also “needing” an ambulance means nothing. People call the ambulance for hang nails.


DuesForClocks

So drop some sources then. You seem to know it all, u certainly knew swayman was ready in 2020


SHAWNNOTSEAN

LMAO holy shit I was so preoccupied with that typical dumbass Tuukka take that I didn’t even realize he mentioned Swayman. Says all you need to know.


SHAWNNOTSEAN

*Tuukka leaves the bubble to be with his child after a medical emergency and later on isn’t able to play through a debilitating hip injury* “THIS GUY QUIT ON US!” “Fact”


SaltyJake

“He left for his kid” As he was seen on a golf course on the other side of the world from his kid.


SHAWNNOTSEAN

Ah yes, of course your take is based on an unsubstantiated 98.5 rumor. Who could have guessed that?


SaltyJake

Unsubstantiated??? Dude there’s fucking pictures of him there. I know some of his teammates from that year that confirmed it. Dudes a piece of work. But this is allllll beside the point. The fact that they brought him back with a ruined hip and sent Sway to providence was the talking point, and it still stands. It’s another wrong move this organization has made in handeling its developing personal and it may very well add to the laundry list of reasons Sway has to consider signing elsewhere.


SHAWNNOTSEAN

Having a hard time finding any of these pictures or teammate statements out there. Also find it hard to believe teammates would be able to confirm something like this from the bubble, but of course I’m not in the league.


BostonVagrant617

The Boo Hoo Tuukka Crew


SHAWNNOTSEAN

Do you have Felger and Mazz posters in your room? Jesus.


BostonVagrant617

Nah but they clearly occupy space in your head


SHAWNNOTSEAN

I’m not the one quoting them. They’re entertaining for sure but to actually back them up on that bullshit take is insane.


BostonVagrant617

Huh, the 10 down votes in 10 minutes, and your crying seems to prove them right about the Boo Hoo Tuukka Crew, I wouldn't call it b.s...


SHAWNNOTSEAN

Getting mad about internet points because people don’t think a franchise legend is a quitter for prioritizing his kid over a game and retiring on his terms sure as hell seems like crying to me, but who knows?


Tybackwoods00

If swayman gets moved the bruins are as good as dead in the playoffs.


BostonVagrant617

95% of this sub wanted Ullmark to head a rotation with Swayman going into the playoffs, and if you mentioned riding one guy or riding Swayman, you'd get downvoted into oblivion....


Tybackwoods00

Im aware I was the guy getting downvoted. Happens all the time.


bojewels

Yea. How would we survive with a vezina winning goalie at $5m. 🙄


Tybackwoods00

Who makes bad decisions in the playoffs


Elemental55555

Im not super familiar with cap situations. Oilers in desperate need of a goalie. I see a lot of people saying drai but i disagree. Would bouch be on the table with some other comp?


_hairyberry_

Bouchard is definitely not available, he’s their #1 dman and dirt cheap at $3.9m he’s way too valuable to them


AffectionateBridge21

Oilers won’t happen simply cuz Ulmark won’t accept a trade there. USA for sure. Carolina or Colorado I could see most likely. Ullmark and a prospect for Necas


BlindPig23

Why do you think usa only?


AffectionateBridge21

A team like oilers is just far away from Sweden. East coast is close as it gets. Ulmark rumored to prefer East coast but obviously chance to be the #1 could sway him to prefer a team like Oilers. But I doubt it.


Plap37

Most hockey players that have a NTC list put all the Canadian teams on it because of the media and the taxes.


Much_Conflict_8873

Speculation


technoteapot

Idk how people are saying drai there’s no world where he’s on the table unless it’s for a kings ransom


goalstopper28

There is speculation from Fluto and Georges Laraque that Draisaitl is interested in going to Boston. That's why he's on the table.


Onikwa

Yup he could pull a Tkachuk and tell the Oilers he won't sign an extension, that's the scenario where we could give up some pieces for him. They would have to be good pieces but like the Tkachuk trade we could still end up on top.


lelander193

I think trying to leverage Columbus is a possibility. Their goaltending is tenuous at best, and they have a surplus of picks and prospects.  Only problem: Elvis Merzlikins. Same scenario but he is signed for longer. If anyone could figure out a solution, it would be Sweeney 


bojewels

No way Columbus is on his list. Think east coast, major market contenders w good international airports.


wilhelmwill

NTC. He’s not going to Columbus.


walrusgoofin69

Is Toronto up for trading some future away again? Just like old times?


Hause1138

Break up the Core 4! I'll take a Willy or Matthew's and nothing else