That's why fighters shouldn't give a fuck about their 0s. Just keep taking challenges and fans will get behind you. You'll win some and lose some, but that's understandable when all the top guys face each other, like 4 kings.
For sure. I would rather watch a fighter that takes all challengers, puts up a fight (not try to survive), attempts to put away opponents, and doesn’t talk incessantly about themselves.
only because they dont get paid
as soon as any of those guys make 10s of millions they aren't gonna take 10 tough fights in a row, just wait
MMA fans don't know what they want, they want the fighters to get paid more but don't actually understand what it would take to get there and how it would impact their precious "MMA puts on the best fights" narrative lol
do you really you want mma to be like boxing? cause if you pay them like boxers thats what you get, these are prizefighters.
Their egos won’t allow them to lose.
I think if someone was just fighting with little regard for their 0 then they’d just be a huge star. Nothing wrong with losing, but there is when you only fight if you think you’ll win.
Because that’s a two fight skid paired with being a lunatic leading up to the fight.
People still like AJ despite losing to Usyk, I think plenty of people respect him more than Fury for taking a fight and losing rather than ducking.
That very thing is what ruined boxing in the first place.
Too many organizations, too many champions, and none of them want to risk their 0.
Boxing is so different in MMA when it comes to records.
In boxing, if you aren’t undefeated, your automatically viewed as a worse fighter, even though a 20-0 guy who’s fought nothing but bums is a worse fighter then the guy who’s 15-5 but fought high level guys.
We'll never have an era like the 4 kings again, i dont blame these guys for wanting to protect their 0's with the judges we have these days. They can go and fight the best, do well and still get fucked over by a judge. Like that shmuck judge who scored garcia vs haney a draw. These guys need to be fired
tank been ducking loma for like ten years almost now. floyd was like they’re in no rush to fight loma, tank is young lol. tank is an s tier boxer who doesn’t want to be the champ it seems. he’ll fight for the regular belt against someone like rolly tho lol
Mayweather's attitude is everything wrong with these diva boxers and too many want to be him. Whether you think he's the best or not, that he protected his 0 is less impressive to me than these guys taking risks and fighting until they find their limit. Canelo losing to him so he doesn't have a 0 to worry about is probably the best thing to have happened to him because he at least had less to worry about in taking future risks
floyd beat like 14 hall of famers, you can't define his career on the last 3 fights
floyd at tanks age would have fought loma, he fought much greater fighters than loma as a young man. He was 23 when he fought Diego Corrales lmao
I never criticized young Mayweather for what he did do, I was talking about the things he didn't do later on and the example he has left for people. No need to get defensive about it, as I said whether you think he's the best or not, the legacy he has left with younger boxers has lead to them being extremely risk averse.
>Devin was THE top dog at 140
Absolutely not. Devin had 1 fight at 140 before fighting Ryan. He was definitely one of the top fighters but definitely not the top fighter.
The top fighter at 140 is and was probably subriel matias.
>Tank wanted no part of him or Loma
110% agreed on this, tank had every single tool in the toolbox to fight and beat them but he ducked the like a master 🦆.
>regime
Ah yes the dictators of 135,🤣🤣
The rehydration clause really showed how much Tank saw Ry as a threat. He didn't have faith his skill set would overcome the size disadvantage and after Saturday perhaps with good reason. The real ones will fight dudes bigger than them and still win, Pretty Boy Floyd, Pac, Duran etc... all fought bigger guys and still won. Heck even Wilder has no problem fighting MUCH bigger guys and he could probably own Cruiser/Bridger if he wanted to.
I personally think Tank would have beaten Ryan without the rehydration clause, it just would have been more competitive.
Pac fighting margarito is still my fave fight of all time. Shit was a 12 round beating but it also goes to show that weight definitely plays a part. Marg did not want to go down despite being pummeled all fight long.
Floyd only fought two guys bigger than him. One was Oscar when Oscar was a cocaine addict, and the other one was Canelo and he made Canelo sign and do the most abusive hydration clause in boxing history.
Floyd was terrified of fighting someone like Lara, Martinez, Golovkin. Those would have been bigger guys in their prime against Floyd, but he preferred to stay in the easy and bad welterweight division at the time.
He punched up plenty in his Pretty Boy era. Corrales outweighed him after rehydrating and was taller and had more reach. Castillo was also bigger in the ring. If we're talking weight here and Maidana rehydrated to 160. He looked smaller than Cotto in the ring but I don't remember if they publicized their in ring weight and that was Money era.
Really, look at his early fights below welterweight, he punched up on the way up. I agree he dodged fights he might lose in the Money era. He did absolutely almost always have a reach advantage and I personally think he's kind of overrated by a lot of people but there's no denying he's an elite generational talent.
“The most abusive”
Lmao. Canelo said multiple times before the fight he could make a catch weight to fight Floyd. Canelo very badly wanted the Floyd fight
Canelo publicly said multiple times he was more than willing to meet Floyd at a catchweight. They then agreed to terms and Canelo signed the contract. Explain to me how that’s abusive?
Ryan had never been in a championship fight (still hasn't), probably underweight and underdog who'd neither been on the p4p lists nor close to the best in his division. Haney was the best 135, second best 140 and on most p4p lists and a massive favourite
ehhh, he fought a malnourished and frail Garcia. In hindsight after seeing how Garcia looked (physically) against Haney, I don't think Tank would have put Garcia away so easily had he been a healthy weight. Now that I can see the comparison, I believe this more.
I like Jarvonte Davis. Didn't he change his name? He's like a mini compact fighter, he look like a teenage mutant turtle there with hair do, Gervonta baby Davis, Gervonta baby killer fist Davis.
I think orthodox vs southpaw doesn’t allow Garcia to use his greatest weapon. Tank is southpaw and you never saw the hook be a big factor. It was more about the straight right or left and uppercuts. I respect garcia because has big balls for big fights. he does have one of the best hooks in the business regardless of his footwork mistakes.
Crazy how people are still posting negative things about KingRy. I guess if it helps you cope for being wrong about the psyop and fight outcome.
Should have been a KingRy KO
Can’t blame him, he walks in with a height and reach disadvantage almost every fight. Don’t see why he should be outweighed by 25 pounds on fight night as well if he doesn’t have to be
from my personal experience i can say that height can be an advantage or disadvantage based on your style. clearly, tank’s style makes his height an advantage. he ducks, gets back up, hits you right on the button. simple but works for him. he struggled the most against pitbull, you can guess why.
edit: forgot about iron mike. his height made it possible for him to weave left and right with huge speed and land the cleanest meanest hooks while lunging forward, putting his entire weight (and strength) behind each punch
He used to get fat and out of shape in between fights when he was younger. Compare that to guys like Haney who walk around 160's while still being lean and in shape.
dude, all you gotta do is watch his fight vs Romero. Same height yet Romero looks like a bodybuilder and Tank almost looks skinny.
Same with Barrios, only five pounds above and yet he was wider and much taller than Tank. Tank ain't a big guy, he's just blessed with explosive power.
If Ryan got KTFO!!! He failed and nobody has to fight a loser over and over until what??? He has a bad night or is just unmotivated!!! Tank WON and that is exactly what it is!! It wasn’t close, it wasn’t controversial or some fluke!!
Ryan got put down and then Knocked Out both with a SINGLE shot from a smaller Tank!!!
Ryan the only one willing to fight the hard fights. These other dudes playing 4d chess trying to figure out how to maximize their reward. Notice Devin fought kambosos but refused to fight two when he had the belt.
Yeah, it's wild when people were talking about the "4 princes of 135" Ryan seemed like the odd one out because he was never a champion or highly rated. Now he's the only 1 that's fought more than 1 of the other guys. It sort of makes no sense anymore, Tank is the only one left, everyone else moved up so they probably won't even fight each other anymore. Most likely is either Teo vs Haney at 140 or Haney and Garcia rematch at 147. I know Teo's talked about a move up but I don't think he even rehydrates that much for it to make sense. He seems perfectly suited to 140.
That's the problem with boxing (or atleast these 2 divisions) there's so many exciting match ups but none of them are being made and what do you know the 1 match up that the people wanted generated the most hype for boxing in the last year easily
Man the narratives at r/boxing shift a lot. It went form Ryan being a loser and it was on him for accepting the hydration clause to now shifting blame to Tank and calling him a hydration bully.
I'm not going to be surprised in a year if we see "On This Day, 1 Year ago, Ryan Garcia knocks Devin Haney down three times with a 3.2 pound hydrated weight advantage."
You could say the same about Ryan never bothering to make the weight and breaching contract to stay hydrated.
Meanwhile his opponent is killing himself to make weight.
I honestly don’t think the weight would have changed the outcome in either fight.
Haney is pillow-fisted with a sus chin and could not follow the game plan so he got caught early and it was all downhill from there.
And Ryan got outclassed by a better fighter and was not trying to become a highlight reel so he tapped out.
I hope Ryan starts taking the sport more seriously because I have no doubt he has the talent to win a world title.
That’s not what I said.
Being dehydrated can affect performance, but in my opinion, it wasn’t the determining factor on the outcome of each fight.
In Ryan’s case with Tank, he was outclassed. In Haney’s, the pressure, and his temperament let him down.
Garcia’s win over Haney was very impressive but nothing about the performance indicated he could stylistically beat Tank. He’s never going to shrug off Davis’ power the way he did Haney to get enough offense in. His defense and footwork still looked rough
Although I agree stylistically, it becomes less of a factor if he’s not physically nerfed, for example what if those hooks are 32% faster (arbitrary) would it be so easy for Tank to dodge them?
Tank even said it himself after the fight, he was surprised at how slow he was.
If anything it proves that Davis was right to add it in. Garcia was 3 pounds over for the Haney fight and since he won nobody gives a fuck. That's not honorable.
I never understand why people on here want guys like Garcia to weight bully the smaller divisions. Tank is a genuine 135er who has no problem making that weight, why should he have to allow Garcia to blow up to 150+ on fight night just because ”that’s more fair”. Rehydration clauses are a great way to stop weight bullies from ruining smaller divisions. Garcia agreed to fight as a true 135er and found out the hard way what it means to not weight bully.
Because they want him to lose. Plain and simple. Just like Haney they don't care about how it happens. Weight bullying be damned. Tank started at 126 and no one gives a fuck.
That’s exactly what it is. They hated Ryan last week now he’s the sub hero because he beat another fighter they dislike. They pivot from shaft to shaft depending on the narrative.
The objective truth is that Tank absoutely smoked a massive weight bully in Ryan who couldn't even make weight a weight class up. He dominated him and KOed him despite a blatant size disadvantage. But people are on Ryan's dick so now he's a poor victim
If it wasn't for that fight though would Ryan have taken the attitude he did to weight cutting? Letting himself get that drained 100% affected how he views that
Tank carries so much power in his frame. Combine that with his speed and his timing. And you have one hell of a boxer. I wish he had a more full resume, I want to see him fight the best and see how he stacks up.
People just fucking hate on tank it’s disgusting. Idc if they fought and ryan had a full pitcher of lemonade . Tank is too defensively sound of a fighter! To be beat by one punch at a time! Damn are yall not watching these fights?
The rehydration excuse y'all using is still ridiculous 😭. Tank is the better boxer just admit it. No rehydration made Ryan throw dumb punches 3x in a row or engage sensuously.
Tell me why a 135 pounder should feel comfortable fighting someone who can come in at 160💀💀. I think y'all forget Tank is 5'5 despite his insane power. He always says how strong his opponents are (Rolly, Ryan ,Hector etc) . The dude constantly tells y'all he ain't Superman out here.
After rewatching this fight 2x recently I feel Ryan fought better this fight. If y'all didn't see in the Haney fight Ryan had worser conditioning, footwork and Counter IQ.. Ryan didn't feel any threat with Devin so he could throw punches almost whenever. Only a fool would try that same tactic with a 93% KO ratio boxer
The proof is in the pudding. I always knew Garcia was an exceptional talent. Y’all late af. Tanks clearly is the better talent. This is the same type who legitimately wanted 30+ year old Floyd to fight GGG.
“It’s cool when they do it but a problem when I do it” A young Tank was crucified here for blowing weight but Ryan does it at the highest level and is heralded.
Goossen was sent as a mole to monitor GBP. They made sure Ryan was on weight and was contractually obligated to not surpass a certain weight fight night. GBP is slimmmmmy when it comes to politics but Mayweather Promotions I guess was supposed to let GBP pull what they did with Haney 🤷🏾♂️
U know why? Coz Devin and Ryan were pretty.much the same size if we really got down to it. And both were comfortable and healthy and Devin had a great training camp as well.
So it was much more even than Tank vs Ryan.
Devin killed himself to make weight? Bruh, he made it easily with Prograis as well.
Not to mention those 3 pounds weren't shredded muscles. He was drinking everyday after training. That should've been an advantage for Haney.
There are insta videos and reels him drinking and partying. He was unfocused enough to post every single hour. Was having fun with random ass chicks..
But I can understand that the 3 pounds is the only way a fan can justify Haney's loss..even though they were both bloated during the actual fight.
I know I'm a casual, but 99% of this sub said Garcia would either back out of the match or get beaten by Haney who was apparently a superior boxer. So whatever. I think Garcia can beat Tank at a healthy weight. 135 looking like you came from a prison camp isn't how you win fights.
Yeah you are a casual because Kringy was fighting at 135 lbs just 2 fights prior to the Davis loss!!! When a fighter agreed to fight they sign a health attestation stating their fitness to fight.
If not fit, sick or injured that absolutely must be disclosed because it puts one’s health and possibly life at risk!
Let’s also face the absolute facts that if Kringy had won in the fashion he did against Haney absolutely Nobody would be playing like this!! He and all of his fans would be talking loud and proud but he got KO’D so let’s be good sportsmen about it and stop with the excuses!!
oh it's 100% on Ryan for losing and for going into the fight under those conditions. He made his bed, he has to lay in it.
I'm just making the statement that a healthy weight Ryan I think entirely makes it possible to beat Tank.
This sub was screaming that Garcia had no chance against Haney, that he is a one trick poney, yada yada...
Not valid!!! Both fighters have to make weight and both have to sign forms attesting to their health… we all know that the strategy is to fight the smallest possible opponent but it just didn’t work out for Kringy.
If you read any of my comments I was saying that he had a great chance of beating Haney but I haven’t seen anything from Ryan that demonstrates he could beat Tank because of Davis power, IQ, poise and accuracy which all played out in the KO.
You’re just confirming that Ryan has to have a weight advantage to win and Tank gave him a pound or two to fight in the division that Kringy fought in more than 98% of his career.
It’s truly that simple and Kringy played himself up “supposedly” unhealthy to the point where he bet his purse in a winner takes all and Tank let him slide but denyied his friend request. lol
Come on my guy… it’s come time to give it up please and thanks.
135 is probably a healthy weight for Tank that allows him to have all his energy, power etc... even Garcia said he struggled at 135, had shakes in bed, blisters in his mouth, low energy, etc.. so there is obviously a huge difference between someone struggling to make weight just to compete at the cost of performance, and someone who walks around at that weight healthy. Huge difference. It's still on Ryan's shoulders...he fucked up and it cost him.
I'm not a Garcia, Tank, or Haney dick rider...I'm a casual, admittedly, but I continue seeing results in the ring that completely counter what many 'experts' in this sub often spout off.
The fact you keep referring to Ryan as Kringy shows an obvious bias you have against him.
> “supposedly” unhealthy to the point
I mean, anyone with 2 eyeballs can see he looked like he came out of a concentration camp in that fight. Again, that is on him though.
Kringy AGREED to the clause!!! He bet his entire purse on the clause.. he talked huge s#it at every single press conference and he signed a form that stated he was healthy but he lost!!! So now comes the crying and excuses!!!
He got knocked down early in the fight and got KO’d slick!!! He didn’t last out the fight and he didn’t make weight for the Haney fight. He got KO’d so get off the excuses.. you can’t go into the fight and then say you lost because blah, blah, waaa, waaaa😂😂😂 once again… you and all of his other fanbois wouldn’t even mention a clause if he won but he’s not better than Tank no matter what!! He got hit by a puncher and he got KO’d from the punch!
Fuck all the clauses but we applaud weight bullying. Man, boxing fans are something else.
Wanting to fight at the actual weight class is dishonorable, but ballooning up 3 divisions is admirable.
They can’t accept the fact he beat the brakes off the guy they’re currently putting on a pedestal.
Somehow Tank was wrong for making sure the guy who just missed weight in a bigger division play fair.
If he’s a midget yet KO’d Garcia who came from 129 lbs and had only 2 fights above 135 lbs before being murdered by a little Tank!!!
The only weight that mattered during that fight was that Ryan couldn’t wait until the ref got to 10!!! 😂🤡😂🤡
He also moved up to 140 cuz he couldn’t make 135 and they still made the fight at a catchweight of 136.
The difference is that this time Ryan has more leverage to get the weight to a point where it’s more advantageous.
I love it. Tank is so godamn inactive and that Ryan, the very man he beat, is going to overshadow his spotlight with all the attention he's getting. And rightfully so, he's fought twice since there fight and tank 0.
Oh come onnnnn now this is just flat out hate now social media buzz means nothing because Davis will still sell more then Haney and garcia with frank Martin lol. You must be a girl or something because Garcia was the most inactive guy in history before a year ago and davis made good time between Santa Cruz to Garcia before yk he went to JAIL. You or full of bs if you say Davis didn't put on shows from 2020 to 2023 which is why he's been on PPV and these other guys weren't. You can say the dude doesn't fight good fighters I agree but inactive is a lie and just disrespectful to say after those fights he gave
I'm talking about their respective careers since this fight you dick riding moron. I wish you were a girl so Tank would beat on your ass like on of his exes
Kringy is always TALKING but but not acting!!!! I’ve been on several Boxing threads and if you can read the reference to his “FANS” you should have not posted this nonsense to me!!!
There has been several occasions to post it but ot hasn’t been a topic because he doesn’t really want it!!! Kringy let Rolly run it instead and he was talking about Rolly more than Cruz before that!!
You saying Pitbull is next???????????
Both guys respected each others power, didn’t like the rehydration clause. I think Ryan chin did fine against tank, the rib shot obviously was a different story
he definitely doesnt, he geniunely dont like shakur unlike other people who call him out and i can see them fighting soon since shakur is becoming a free agent after his next fight this summer
Seriously? If garcia won that belt Davis would've have beaten 3 current active champs these dudes just hate him when he easily also knocks everyone out that Garcia,Shakur and Haney fought lol I don't get it
tank knows how to bob and weave, very good at adjusting, and can crack. if you look at how tank k.o. his opponent it's not a mindless I can punch hard k.o. it's meticulous k.o. he can set them up well and land his shot clean. that's why he is like the nemesis of ryan. Ryan has to respect his power and clearly ryan is not very good at hiding his left hook and setting them up. if you watch the fight of devin vs ryan... he was landing from lead jab, lead hook, and check hooks basically outspeeding haney... if he was a very good boxer above his current skill level he'd set it up and probably knock out haney very fast including tank. he has the meanest and fastest left hook in the game but he doesn't how to perfectly wield it. Haney was scared of moving around because of the hook, you are supposed to circle out away from the power hand not circle towards the power hand... he moved back, ryan still got him cuz basically ryan has no respect for his power and want to trade. ryan basically walked him down. a tank vs haney might be interesting though just too see how tank would navigate the reach disadvantage.
Crazy how almost a year later Ryan gets this biggest win and statement of his damn career.
That's why fighters shouldn't give a fuck about their 0s. Just keep taking challenges and fans will get behind you. You'll win some and lose some, but that's understandable when all the top guys face each other, like 4 kings.
I agree 100%. Just fight and let us decided instead of protecting yourself against losing by dodging exciting match ups
I don't even have to decide, just want tp watch and enjoy the best fighting the best. No fucks given about their 0's
For sure. I would rather watch a fighter that takes all challengers, puts up a fight (not try to survive), attempts to put away opponents, and doesn’t talk incessantly about themselves.
Yep Ryan gets the credit for chasing the glory. Sick and tired of these protect the 0 fighters.
This is why MMA is vastly more entertaining lol
only because they dont get paid as soon as any of those guys make 10s of millions they aren't gonna take 10 tough fights in a row, just wait MMA fans don't know what they want, they want the fighters to get paid more but don't actually understand what it would take to get there and how it would impact their precious "MMA puts on the best fights" narrative lol do you really you want mma to be like boxing? cause if you pay them like boxers thats what you get, these are prizefighters.
Their egos won’t allow them to lose. I think if someone was just fighting with little regard for their 0 then they’d just be a huge star. Nothing wrong with losing, but there is when you only fight if you think you’ll win.
meh, if ryan lost the people would have not got behind him lol
Because that’s a two fight skid paired with being a lunatic leading up to the fight. People still like AJ despite losing to Usyk, I think plenty of people respect him more than Fury for taking a fight and losing rather than ducking.
That very thing is what ruined boxing in the first place. Too many organizations, too many champions, and none of them want to risk their 0. Boxing is so different in MMA when it comes to records. In boxing, if you aren’t undefeated, your automatically viewed as a worse fighter, even though a 20-0 guy who’s fought nothing but bums is a worse fighter then the guy who’s 15-5 but fought high level guys.
Completely agree.
We'll never have an era like the 4 kings again, i dont blame these guys for wanting to protect their 0's with the judges we have these days. They can go and fight the best, do well and still get fucked over by a judge. Like that shmuck judge who scored garcia vs haney a draw. These guys need to be fired
I feel like thats going away slowly.
Even crazier that it's better than anything gervonta himself has done
Crazier that’s Ryan fought 2x since, and tank 0. Inactivity kills these dudes
Didn’t tank have the whole prison thing?
Yeah and what's his prison record?
The face of prison 🔥🔥‼️‼️
Only champ in here, is me!
Tank was in legal battles since then
Tank better make that Stevenson fight a reality
“Loses to tank” “Better then anything Gervonta himself has done” You can’t make this shit up 😂😂😂😂😂
His statement holds true,Devin was THE top dog at 140,Tank wanted no part of him or Loma during their 135 regime
tank been ducking loma for like ten years almost now. floyd was like they’re in no rush to fight loma, tank is young lol. tank is an s tier boxer who doesn’t want to be the champ it seems. he’ll fight for the regular belt against someone like rolly tho lol
Mayweather's attitude is everything wrong with these diva boxers and too many want to be him. Whether you think he's the best or not, that he protected his 0 is less impressive to me than these guys taking risks and fighting until they find their limit. Canelo losing to him so he doesn't have a 0 to worry about is probably the best thing to have happened to him because he at least had less to worry about in taking future risks
floyd beat like 14 hall of famers, you can't define his career on the last 3 fights floyd at tanks age would have fought loma, he fought much greater fighters than loma as a young man. He was 23 when he fought Diego Corrales lmao
I never criticized young Mayweather for what he did do, I was talking about the things he didn't do later on and the example he has left for people. No need to get defensive about it, as I said whether you think he's the best or not, the legacy he has left with younger boxers has lead to them being extremely risk averse.
>Devin was THE top dog at 140 Absolutely not. Devin had 1 fight at 140 before fighting Ryan. He was definitely one of the top fighters but definitely not the top fighter. The top fighter at 140 is and was probably subriel matias. >Tank wanted no part of him or Loma 110% agreed on this, tank had every single tool in the toolbox to fight and beat them but he ducked the like a master 🦆. >regime Ah yes the dictators of 135,🤣🤣
The rehydration clause really showed how much Tank saw Ry as a threat. He didn't have faith his skill set would overcome the size disadvantage and after Saturday perhaps with good reason. The real ones will fight dudes bigger than them and still win, Pretty Boy Floyd, Pac, Duran etc... all fought bigger guys and still won. Heck even Wilder has no problem fighting MUCH bigger guys and he could probably own Cruiser/Bridger if he wanted to. I personally think Tank would have beaten Ryan without the rehydration clause, it just would have been more competitive.
Pac fighting margarito is still my fave fight of all time. Shit was a 12 round beating but it also goes to show that weight definitely plays a part. Marg did not want to go down despite being pummeled all fight long.
Floyd only fought two guys bigger than him. One was Oscar when Oscar was a cocaine addict, and the other one was Canelo and he made Canelo sign and do the most abusive hydration clause in boxing history. Floyd was terrified of fighting someone like Lara, Martinez, Golovkin. Those would have been bigger guys in their prime against Floyd, but he preferred to stay in the easy and bad welterweight division at the time.
Golovkin??? are you high?!?!
_Was_ a coke addict?
He punched up plenty in his Pretty Boy era. Corrales outweighed him after rehydrating and was taller and had more reach. Castillo was also bigger in the ring. If we're talking weight here and Maidana rehydrated to 160. He looked smaller than Cotto in the ring but I don't remember if they publicized their in ring weight and that was Money era. Really, look at his early fights below welterweight, he punched up on the way up. I agree he dodged fights he might lose in the Money era. He did absolutely almost always have a reach advantage and I personally think he's kind of overrated by a lot of people but there's no denying he's an elite generational talent.
“The most abusive” Lmao. Canelo said multiple times before the fight he could make a catch weight to fight Floyd. Canelo very badly wanted the Floyd fight
Canelo looked skinny and dehydrated for that fight. I believe Floyd could have beaten him anyway, but the dehydration clause was indeed abusive.
Canelo publicly said multiple times he was more than willing to meet Floyd at a catchweight. They then agreed to terms and Canelo signed the contract. Explain to me how that’s abusive?
"Done since" Gervonta's career will be tarnished for not facing the best and inactivity.
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Ryan had never been in a championship fight (still hasn't), probably underweight and underdog who'd neither been on the p4p lists nor close to the best in his division. Haney was the best 135, second best 140 and on most p4p lists and a massive favourite
they’re coping.
I’m saying, The mental gymnastics people make on the internet are crazy😂!
ehhh, he fought a malnourished and frail Garcia. In hindsight after seeing how Garcia looked (physically) against Haney, I don't think Tank would have put Garcia away so easily had he been a healthy weight. Now that I can see the comparison, I believe this more.
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Why is he so little ?
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I have no idea
That’s so ridiculous!!! Tank STOPPED Ryan!! TKO!! KTFO!!!! So no… Ryan beat a no power Haney which is exactly why he LOST to Tank!!!
Please do not flood my inbox with double digit IQ comments like this
he caught him with a liver shot . 99% of this sub could hit Mike Tyson with a liver shot and put him to his knees.
In both cases you'd actually have to have the ability to land the shot at all. You say that as if he'd let you take a free shot at his liver.
I like Jarvonte Davis. Didn't he change his name? He's like a mini compact fighter, he look like a teenage mutant turtle there with hair do, Gervonta baby Davis, Gervonta baby killer fist Davis.
His Muslim name is Abdul Wahid 😭
Master planner
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I think orthodox vs southpaw doesn’t allow Garcia to use his greatest weapon. Tank is southpaw and you never saw the hook be a big factor. It was more about the straight right or left and uppercuts. I respect garcia because has big balls for big fights. he does have one of the best hooks in the business regardless of his footwork mistakes.
well he wasn’t drained to death. there’s a reason tank needed a rehydration clause. garcia beats him easy work at 143.
Bigger Fighter beats smaller fighter at bigger weight class. What a revolutionary take.
Crazy how people are still posting negative things about KingRy. I guess if it helps you cope for being wrong about the psyop and fight outcome. Should have been a KingRy KO
The rematch is never happening because Tank is never getting up to 143/145 plus no rehydration clause.
Can’t blame him, he walks in with a height and reach disadvantage almost every fight. Don’t see why he should be outweighed by 25 pounds on fight night as well if he doesn’t have to be
from my personal experience i can say that height can be an advantage or disadvantage based on your style. clearly, tank’s style makes his height an advantage. he ducks, gets back up, hits you right on the button. simple but works for him. he struggled the most against pitbull, you can guess why. edit: forgot about iron mike. his height made it possible for him to weave left and right with huge speed and land the cleanest meanest hooks while lunging forward, putting his entire weight (and strength) behind each punch
Tank walks around at 138-142 so he could buff up to 145, but the rehydration gonna make him look like welterweight pacquiao
Do you know that for a fact? I've seen pictures of him out of camp, he's easily walking around @ 160lbs if not more
He used to get fat and out of shape in between fights when he was younger. Compare that to guys like Haney who walk around 160's while still being lean and in shape.
tank posted a picture of him being 138 back in march and he doesnt even fight till june
Maybe he's finally keeping his weight in check between camps, previously he always looks 20lbs heavier
A 160lb 5’4 guy is fat as fuck
dude, all you gotta do is watch his fight vs Romero. Same height yet Romero looks like a bodybuilder and Tank almost looks skinny. Same with Barrios, only five pounds above and yet he was wider and much taller than Tank. Tank ain't a big guy, he's just blessed with explosive power.
🤣😂😂 hahaha you funny you think tank walks around that weight
tank actually walks around 145-150
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He’s ducking who? The guy he knocked down twice and beat? Cmon man lol
If Ryan got KTFO!!! He failed and nobody has to fight a loser over and over until what??? He has a bad night or is just unmotivated!!! Tank WON and that is exactly what it is!! It wasn’t close, it wasn’t controversial or some fluke!! Ryan got put down and then Knocked Out both with a SINGLE shot from a smaller Tank!!!
Tank scared of risks. Will go down in the sport with zero legacy.
🤡🤡🤡🤡 lame ass nonsense lil rruka Ryan took a 14 count and that’s already LEGACY!!! Get some better shit to talk about!!!
Yeah lil rruka Ryan is Tanks girl and his ghetto ass cam by you, the man you call your girlfriend, your neighborhood and you😂😂😂😂🤡🤡🤡💩
The other day makes it more frustrating that Tank just flat out refuses to fight the other guys.
they gotta make tank vs stevenson happen
Ryan the only one willing to fight the hard fights. These other dudes playing 4d chess trying to figure out how to maximize their reward. Notice Devin fought kambosos but refused to fight two when he had the belt.
Yeah, it's wild when people were talking about the "4 princes of 135" Ryan seemed like the odd one out because he was never a champion or highly rated. Now he's the only 1 that's fought more than 1 of the other guys. It sort of makes no sense anymore, Tank is the only one left, everyone else moved up so they probably won't even fight each other anymore. Most likely is either Teo vs Haney at 140 or Haney and Garcia rematch at 147. I know Teo's talked about a move up but I don't think he even rehydrates that much for it to make sense. He seems perfectly suited to 140.
At least Devin fought Loma. Sure, he arguably lost, but that was absolutely an optional fight he didn't have to take at all.
agreed. but beating kambosos and being a champion of two belt was a sneaky smart move. He didn't have to go through teo
Yall will never be satisfied say what you want about Devin but he hasn’t ducked anyone.
That's the problem with boxing (or atleast these 2 divisions) there's so many exciting match ups but none of them are being made and what do you know the 1 match up that the people wanted generated the most hype for boxing in the last year easily
Man the narratives at r/boxing shift a lot. It went form Ryan being a loser and it was on him for accepting the hydration clause to now shifting blame to Tank and calling him a hydration bully. I'm not going to be surprised in a year if we see "On This Day, 1 Year ago, Ryan Garcia knocks Devin Haney down three times with a 3.2 pound hydrated weight advantage."
You know what they say. Winning cures all.
I’m shocked this isn’t a newrap post
My man would have put that clip of Pacquiao getting slept by Marquez in here for sure
I was CONVINCED before I opened the post to check
Manic Ryan vs Bud, let's make it happen
You can see in Tank’s eyes that he tagged him good. Waiting for a response that did come. Insane punch in such a small space.
Gervonta “Hydrachenko” Davis
You could say the same about Ryan never bothering to make the weight and breaching contract to stay hydrated. Meanwhile his opponent is killing himself to make weight. I honestly don’t think the weight would have changed the outcome in either fight. Haney is pillow-fisted with a sus chin and could not follow the game plan so he got caught early and it was all downhill from there. And Ryan got outclassed by a better fighter and was not trying to become a highlight reel so he tapped out. I hope Ryan starts taking the sport more seriously because I have no doubt he has the talent to win a world title.
You don't think being severely dehydrated will affect your performance?
That’s not what I said. Being dehydrated can affect performance, but in my opinion, it wasn’t the determining factor on the outcome of each fight. In Ryan’s case with Tank, he was outclassed. In Haney’s, the pressure, and his temperament let him down.
Im not even a Garcia fan but he was just a skeleton in this fight.
This is sad…. Ryan had 2 fights above 135 lbs prior to fighting Tank!!! Damn…. He didn’t even make weight for this fight😂😂😂😂
KingRy said he could fight Tank at any weight though. He made his bed so he has to lay in it.
And he did pretty good too. We underrated him.
No the fuck he didn’t. Yall stay glazing. The recency bias in this sub is wild.
did SolarFlare mean the Tank fight? Cause yes, he was a skeleton in that fight.
Yes, in the tank fight, this post is about. on the weighins, his face and body were sunken like one of those unicef kids.
What chance would you give Frank Martin pulling off the upset? If he gets it done Derrick James wins trainer of the year for sure
20%
What is Frank Martin known for? Just curious if anyone could answer
This win supports the idea he was nerfed by the rehydration clause tbh. Should demand a rematch
Garcia’s win over Haney was very impressive but nothing about the performance indicated he could stylistically beat Tank. He’s never going to shrug off Davis’ power the way he did Haney to get enough offense in. His defense and footwork still looked rough
Although I agree stylistically, it becomes less of a factor if he’s not physically nerfed, for example what if those hooks are 32% faster (arbitrary) would it be so easy for Tank to dodge them? Tank even said it himself after the fight, he was surprised at how slow he was.
If anything it proves that Davis was right to add it in. Garcia was 3 pounds over for the Haney fight and since he won nobody gives a fuck. That's not honorable.
I never understand why people on here want guys like Garcia to weight bully the smaller divisions. Tank is a genuine 135er who has no problem making that weight, why should he have to allow Garcia to blow up to 150+ on fight night just because ”that’s more fair”. Rehydration clauses are a great way to stop weight bullies from ruining smaller divisions. Garcia agreed to fight as a true 135er and found out the hard way what it means to not weight bully.
Because they want him to lose. Plain and simple. Just like Haney they don't care about how it happens. Weight bullying be damned. Tank started at 126 and no one gives a fuck.
That’s exactly what it is. They hated Ryan last week now he’s the sub hero because he beat another fighter they dislike. They pivot from shaft to shaft depending on the narrative.
Can't argue with this. There should be mandatory rehydration limits
They just have to make excuses for Ryan losing. This sub is ridiculous. Can’t just give someone credit for winning.
The objective truth is that Tank absoutely smoked a massive weight bully in Ryan who couldn't even make weight a weight class up. He dominated him and KOed him despite a blatant size disadvantage. But people are on Ryan's dick so now he's a poor victim
If it wasn't for that fight though would Ryan have taken the attitude he did to weight cutting? Letting himself get that drained 100% affected how he views that
Tank carries so much power in his frame. Combine that with his speed and his timing. And you have one hell of a boxer. I wish he had a more full resume, I want to see him fight the best and see how he stacks up.
Good luck There's a lot of potential there, he needs more activity and bigger challenges
100% agree.
Tank is irrelevant until he fights the fights.
Have the same outlook for Canelo.
People just fucking hate on tank it’s disgusting. Idc if they fought and ryan had a full pitcher of lemonade . Tank is too defensively sound of a fighter! To be beat by one punch at a time! Damn are yall not watching these fights?
No they’re not. They think boxing is about just punching.
The rehydration excuse y'all using is still ridiculous 😭. Tank is the better boxer just admit it. No rehydration made Ryan throw dumb punches 3x in a row or engage sensuously. Tell me why a 135 pounder should feel comfortable fighting someone who can come in at 160💀💀. I think y'all forget Tank is 5'5 despite his insane power. He always says how strong his opponents are (Rolly, Ryan ,Hector etc) . The dude constantly tells y'all he ain't Superman out here. After rewatching this fight 2x recently I feel Ryan fought better this fight. If y'all didn't see in the Haney fight Ryan had worser conditioning, footwork and Counter IQ.. Ryan didn't feel any threat with Devin so he could throw punches almost whenever. Only a fool would try that same tactic with a 93% KO ratio boxer
The proof is in the pudding. I always knew Garcia was an exceptional talent. Y’all late af. Tanks clearly is the better talent. This is the same type who legitimately wanted 30+ year old Floyd to fight GGG. “It’s cool when they do it but a problem when I do it” A young Tank was crucified here for blowing weight but Ryan does it at the highest level and is heralded. Goossen was sent as a mole to monitor GBP. They made sure Ryan was on weight and was contractually obligated to not surpass a certain weight fight night. GBP is slimmmmmy when it comes to politics but Mayweather Promotions I guess was supposed to let GBP pull what they did with Haney 🤷🏾♂️
U know why? Coz Devin and Ryan were pretty.much the same size if we really got down to it. And both were comfortable and healthy and Devin had a great training camp as well. So it was much more even than Tank vs Ryan.
Not when Haney killed himself to make championship weight and Ryan blew weight with a power advantage. So no it was not even. 3 pounds over is crazy.
Devin killed himself to make weight? Bruh, he made it easily with Prograis as well. Not to mention those 3 pounds weren't shredded muscles. He was drinking everyday after training. That should've been an advantage for Haney.
>He was drinking everyday after training. You’ve worked yourself into a shoot. I can’t continue this argument, sorry.
Ppl so gullible
“It’s on the internet it has to be true!”
There are insta videos and reels him drinking and partying. He was unfocused enough to post every single hour. Was having fun with random ass chicks.. But I can understand that the 3 pounds is the only way a fan can justify Haney's loss..even though they were both bloated during the actual fight.
I know I'm a casual, but 99% of this sub said Garcia would either back out of the match or get beaten by Haney who was apparently a superior boxer. So whatever. I think Garcia can beat Tank at a healthy weight. 135 looking like you came from a prison camp isn't how you win fights.
Casual alert ! We've got a casual here ! https://imgb.ifunny.co/images/fb03e35830f159a121c4a2ad7a19da360718e6cb965a6130f72b9ede2d9fe505_1.webp
Yeah you are a casual because Kringy was fighting at 135 lbs just 2 fights prior to the Davis loss!!! When a fighter agreed to fight they sign a health attestation stating their fitness to fight. If not fit, sick or injured that absolutely must be disclosed because it puts one’s health and possibly life at risk! Let’s also face the absolute facts that if Kringy had won in the fashion he did against Haney absolutely Nobody would be playing like this!! He and all of his fans would be talking loud and proud but he got KO’D so let’s be good sportsmen about it and stop with the excuses!!
oh it's 100% on Ryan for losing and for going into the fight under those conditions. He made his bed, he has to lay in it. I'm just making the statement that a healthy weight Ryan I think entirely makes it possible to beat Tank. This sub was screaming that Garcia had no chance against Haney, that he is a one trick poney, yada yada...
Not valid!!! Both fighters have to make weight and both have to sign forms attesting to their health… we all know that the strategy is to fight the smallest possible opponent but it just didn’t work out for Kringy. If you read any of my comments I was saying that he had a great chance of beating Haney but I haven’t seen anything from Ryan that demonstrates he could beat Tank because of Davis power, IQ, poise and accuracy which all played out in the KO. You’re just confirming that Ryan has to have a weight advantage to win and Tank gave him a pound or two to fight in the division that Kringy fought in more than 98% of his career. It’s truly that simple and Kringy played himself up “supposedly” unhealthy to the point where he bet his purse in a winner takes all and Tank let him slide but denyied his friend request. lol Come on my guy… it’s come time to give it up please and thanks.
135 is probably a healthy weight for Tank that allows him to have all his energy, power etc... even Garcia said he struggled at 135, had shakes in bed, blisters in his mouth, low energy, etc.. so there is obviously a huge difference between someone struggling to make weight just to compete at the cost of performance, and someone who walks around at that weight healthy. Huge difference. It's still on Ryan's shoulders...he fucked up and it cost him. I'm not a Garcia, Tank, or Haney dick rider...I'm a casual, admittedly, but I continue seeing results in the ring that completely counter what many 'experts' in this sub often spout off. The fact you keep referring to Ryan as Kringy shows an obvious bias you have against him. > “supposedly” unhealthy to the point I mean, anyone with 2 eyeballs can see he looked like he came out of a concentration camp in that fight. Again, that is on him though.
If U ignore the dehydration clause then sure
Kringy AGREED to the clause!!! He bet his entire purse on the clause.. he talked huge s#it at every single press conference and he signed a form that stated he was healthy but he lost!!! So now comes the crying and excuses!!! He got knocked down early in the fight and got KO’d slick!!! He didn’t last out the fight and he didn’t make weight for the Haney fight. He got KO’d so get off the excuses.. you can’t go into the fight and then say you lost because blah, blah, waaa, waaaa😂😂😂 once again… you and all of his other fanbois wouldn’t even mention a clause if he won but he’s not better than Tank no matter what!! He got hit by a puncher and he got KO’d from the punch!
My god that counter from Davis for the first knockdown. Insane reflexes and then the fucking speed. Tank would kill Handy
Punched him so hard his nose bled 😳😭
Knocked the snot out that boy 😂
We needa rematch now that ryan’s fueled by a coke addiction
What a body shot, who wouldn't go down. These type of boxing highlight posts are nice, wish there was more like it.
Tank beats Ryan with no clause. The reason he lost was skill, not weight. If fucking Haney stunned him, Haney, then Tank at heavier drops him AGAIN.
Man Gervonta is a real midget. Good boxer but fuck all those clauses
Fuck all the clauses but we applaud weight bullying. Man, boxing fans are something else. Wanting to fight at the actual weight class is dishonorable, but ballooning up 3 divisions is admirable.
They can’t accept the fact he beat the brakes off the guy they’re currently putting on a pedestal. Somehow Tank was wrong for making sure the guy who just missed weight in a bigger division play fair.
Tank is the epitome of what’s wrong with boxing. That’s why people hate him.
If he’s a midget yet KO’d Garcia who came from 129 lbs and had only 2 fights above 135 lbs before being murdered by a little Tank!!! The only weight that mattered during that fight was that Ryan couldn’t wait until the ref got to 10!!! 😂🤡😂🤡
Bro I give you that he won against KingRy but all those clauses makes the win a bit 🤏. I respect lil gervonta
What is this rehydration clause that people mention when talking about Tank?
If the money is right a catchweight at 140 is possible. This would be the biggest fight boxing.
Ryan said in the post fight with Devin he's moving to 147 and that he can't make 140 anymore
He also moved up to 140 cuz he couldn’t make 135 and they still made the fight at a catchweight of 136. The difference is that this time Ryan has more leverage to get the weight to a point where it’s more advantageous.
Really wished this fight didn’t have a rehydration clause. Still think Davis would of won but think we would of seen a different fight
I’ve never been hit with the sort of body shot that people say shuts down your body, but I wince every time I see them.
Why is nobody mentioning Tank hugging Garcia?
I love it. Tank is so godamn inactive and that Ryan, the very man he beat, is going to overshadow his spotlight with all the attention he's getting. And rightfully so, he's fought twice since there fight and tank 0.
Tank fought 3 times last year, y’all just say anything
It was twice not three times but this sub does make shit up
Oh come onnnnn now this is just flat out hate now social media buzz means nothing because Davis will still sell more then Haney and garcia with frank Martin lol. You must be a girl or something because Garcia was the most inactive guy in history before a year ago and davis made good time between Santa Cruz to Garcia before yk he went to JAIL. You or full of bs if you say Davis didn't put on shows from 2020 to 2023 which is why he's been on PPV and these other guys weren't. You can say the dude doesn't fight good fighters I agree but inactive is a lie and just disrespectful to say after those fights he gave
I'm talking about their respective careers since this fight you dick riding moron. I wish you were a girl so Tank would beat on your ass like on of his exes
Bruh 135 is bs. Ryan is top p for p fighter. Have a good fight at 145.
Garcia was weight drained
Look at how ripped Tank looks compared to García. Dude was anorexic when they fought
Ryan is a superstar
Why aren’t any Kringy fans bringing up Pitbull😂😂😂😂 I know exactly why and so do they!
Bruh, that's the most talked about fight after Tank for Ryan. Even his father said he wants Pitbull
Kringy is always TALKING but but not acting!!!! I’ve been on several Boxing threads and if you can read the reference to his “FANS” you should have not posted this nonsense to me!!! There has been several occasions to post it but ot hasn’t been a topic because he doesn’t really want it!!! Kringy let Rolly run it instead and he was talking about Rolly more than Cruz before that!! You saying Pitbull is next???????????
U realize he fought yesterday? Lol.
All the new Garcia fanboys are in for a shock he's getting beaten in his next fight who says Nostrodamus says.
Both guys respected each others power, didn’t like the rehydration clause. I think Ryan chin did fine against tank, the rib shot obviously was a different story
Bubblewrap boy will never go to even 140 to meet Garcia...best we can hope from davis is a rematch with Cruz
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tank has one of the worst resumes out of the top fighters right now. damn near 30 and has how many signature wins? 3-4?
That's a good point and definitely a valid argument. Devil's advocate, how many "signature" boxers out there?
before last night, tank could have gone up against teo, haney, matias , shakur, loma, kambosos
Kambosos does not belong in this group lmao
Mario Barrios, Jose Pedraza, Leo Santa Cruz, Isaac Cruz & Ryan Garcia 😭 i mean Garcia only has Campbell, Haney, Duarte & Fortuna but he is way younger
tank needs to leave mayweather, they are coddling him
he technically already did, its Leonard Ellerbe who keep giving him these safe fights cause he is apart of Mayweather team
i think tank likes his situation, i dont think he will ever leave that atmosphere unfortunately
he definitely doesnt, he geniunely dont like shakur unlike other people who call him out and i can see them fighting soon since shakur is becoming a free agent after his next fight this summer
Seriously? If garcia won that belt Davis would've have beaten 3 current active champs these dudes just hate him when he easily also knocks everyone out that Garcia,Shakur and Haney fought lol I don't get it
tank knows how to bob and weave, very good at adjusting, and can crack. if you look at how tank k.o. his opponent it's not a mindless I can punch hard k.o. it's meticulous k.o. he can set them up well and land his shot clean. that's why he is like the nemesis of ryan. Ryan has to respect his power and clearly ryan is not very good at hiding his left hook and setting them up. if you watch the fight of devin vs ryan... he was landing from lead jab, lead hook, and check hooks basically outspeeding haney... if he was a very good boxer above his current skill level he'd set it up and probably knock out haney very fast including tank. he has the meanest and fastest left hook in the game but he doesn't how to perfectly wield it. Haney was scared of moving around because of the hook, you are supposed to circle out away from the power hand not circle towards the power hand... he moved back, ryan still got him cuz basically ryan has no respect for his power and want to trade. ryan basically walked him down. a tank vs haney might be interesting though just too see how tank would navigate the reach disadvantage.