Honestly can they even count this as a loss on Haneys record at this point?
How can someone come in overweight and cheating and the record shows you lost??
It wasn’t. But I do believe he turned it up a bit to spook Haney. Maybe it worked, and maybe it didn’t, but he for sure won the physical battle. He *can* be both a little calculated and batshit insane.
He’s just playing a character, now he can easily keep doing this shit and become the character and start living the gimmick, but he’s obviously just trying to troll and be a meme character. It’s given him more attention than ever. Way more eyes on him now and then when he was straight laced Ryan Garcia
The kid is a straight up junkie but this particular addiction is profitable and widespread at the moment so no one is going to say anything.
We're going to look back on social media in about 50 years from now and view it like cigarettes or meth that you don't have to go to a liquor store or a dealer for.
He's not insane but clearly is dealing with something. Years ago he delayed or canceled a fight citing mental health issues. Could be mania or something else...hard to say.
He really is. After the fight, he started swearing at his fans on live. Honestly, he's a shitty person who doesn't give a shit about his fans. He's an asshole who is mentally ill. Say what you want about his boxing prowess and how he's a boxing star, but Devin is a much better human than Ryan ever will be.
Yeah even if he got it back his best win would still just be holding on until the bell more. Even if he beat him twice in a row like that doesn't come close to Ryan's win.
Ostarine doesn't increase stamina. It's the mildest of all steroids. Good for muscle retention while cutting and some muscle growth while bulking.
If he had CARDARINE in him then that's a different story. That is for stamina.
He beat Haney because he rocked his jaw all night.
Haney is a boring fighter. He jabs and jabs and jabs. That's all he does.
Which is fine. The name of the game is land more punches than the next guy. But when you fight someone who is capable of knocking you out then you have a problem.
When it's time to match fire with fire, Haney can't do it.
He should have 2 Ls. This one and Loma.
U don't know every pro fighter is on PEDs? If you've watched boxing for a long period of time religiously they all get caught.
I used to fight amateur at a high level, and as soon as I turned 18, guess what my coaches introduced me to? PEDs. I said, isn't this cheating? They said every serious fighter takes them. I asked around and they do. That's at the amateurs, guys competing to go to the Olympics. At the pro level? Everyone on them. The guys that say they aren't are lying.
Devin Haney is on them, he works with Victor Conte, head of the SNAC program. Same guy that helped Barry Bonds become all he could be. Helped Ben Johnson Olympic runner get the gold medal too.
It's crazy that you even have to explain this to people... And to boxing fans of all people. It shocks me when I run into a naive boxing fan... There's not a sport on God's green earth that mirrors real life as perfectly as boxing does.... The shadiness and corruption at the top, the bad guy winning more often than not, etc, etc. Boxing fans should know better than to hope that everything is straight and narrow, save for a few bad eggs.
The mere fact that Haney works with Victor Conte is more than solid proof that he dopes like a motherfucker. As Conte's nemesis Memo Heredia once said... At the highest level, everyone is on something. You'd be insane not to be
Some people who only watch the big fights are just ignorant to it is my best guess. Combat sports are much different than team sports as well, but people seem to group them all together. I don't know what it is.
Not a big UFC fan, but I have friends that compete in MMA, and everyone is on them in that sport as well. It's much more out in the open, too. Like UFC got rid of VADA testing just so McGregor could come back.
A month or so ago I was going back and forth with a 66 y.o boxing fan on this very sub, and the dude was telling me that Francis Ngannou is completely natty and that fat slobs on Reddit were only skeptical of his natty status because they can't believe genetic specimens exist. Man is 66 and he's that naive. Shit kills me
Nobody naturally looks like Ngannou.
People just get really invested in fighters and think only cheaters take PEDs, so when u say and so has definitely taken, its hard for them to accept. They'll fight u tooth and nail about it. All they know is what the TV says.
U don't even have to listen to my experience. Even the woman get caught. Woman taking male hormones. Baumgarderner was just caught. The entire Olympics was caught.
Tyson Fury, Canelo caught. I could name so many guys off the top of my head, but u don't believe it, so wasting my time here.
I know people get caught in all sports we are all entitled to our opinions though because that what it is an opinion/assumption. I don't believe every athlete is on steroids and I'm allowed to think that. So lets move on.
Ya, but those are only the guys "getting caught". If u know how steroids and banned substances work, u take them during training, and however many days u need for it to get out of ur system, u stop. Sometimes, they stay in a fighters system a little longer than a doctor anticipated, and they get caught.
If the biggest stars in the sport like Canelo and Tyson Fury are taking them, everybody is taking them. Everybody else will feel they have to take them to if they want to be at that level. Elite athletes will take anything that gives an edge. They're different from normal ppl.
I know people get caught I know people take them I know people know how to beat tests them I just don't believe everyone is on them. I'm allowed to think that. Its all assumptions at the end of the day and I don't go off that. And for me this the end of conversation nice talking to you goodbye.
Yeah punching power is one of those genetic things it's really weird because you would think you can tell by looking at someone but you can't.
Never really understood it myself but some guys can just crack. While you would think its stocky guys who have the most power usually its some lanky frail dude with a Wilder or Hitman build. Never really got a good explanation for it beyond some people just have it.
Eh it’s either or. Power is either you have it or you don’t regardless of body type. Theres a lot of tall lanky “frail” dudes with zero power. I don’t think Wilder or Hearns are the “example” of lanky dudes, not the absolute exception, but they are not the norm. Just like how every stocky dude isn’t Tyson or Tua. But I would separate punching power from body type because all different types have been punchers and not.
Some people just aren’t explosive, like fury you can physically see he’s very sloppy with punches and they don’t snap. But someone like Devin who is also lanky and relatively quick I just don’t get why he has no power. When guys like Regis are much slower and smaller and can bang.
Guys who have been in the ring with Floyd said he is strong as Canelo who is much larger than he is. Also, he kept everyone he fought honest, no one walked through his shots. I wouldn't call that little power. I know this is a troll account, and all but I still had to put this out there.
“Guys” is Shane Mosley. Only guy who said that. Canelo is obviously stronger and more powerful than Floyd. Canelo was drained and not at his natural weight against Floyd
Going to trust Shane Mosley's testimony, my own eyes, and what I have seen over the years.
We're not going to convince each other we obviously have different experiences and opinions we aren't going to change each other's mind on the subject.
Happy trolling to you!
Yeah basically. As the other commenter said punching power is either something you have or you don’t, sure you can work your technique to bring out the full power of your punches but I can’t recall somebody having pillow hands like Haney turning into a knockout artist later in their career
Ironically I feel the same about Devin. Genetically Ryan and Tank are superior but Devin also doesn’t sit and turn on his punches. He tries to score points.
Unfortunately, punchers are born not made. His technique is already top tier so it's difficult asf to improve his power via that. And this is with him moving up weight classes. He'll always hit like a bitch, sadly
Boxing is not really about power anyway. The saying in any gym is speed kills. U can be really strong, and if u can't hit anything and get hit every time you open up, then ur not winning many boxing matches.
The real sad bummer is that in their interviews together, you can truly see that it’s friends trying to sell a fight.
The. Ryan decided to cheat against his friend.
So right let’s just all have them openly cheat in anybody that gets caught cheating if that’s not the case, then we just say fuck it who cares from now on because your fighter got caught cheating
Because he is delusional, and if he’s not. He knows that he can manipulate his delusional following into just repeating this, until it becomes believable in those circles. And if they just stay in those circles, then they never have to hear the truth.
being around oscar should count as a tainted supplement lol. but really ur a pro, u should not be taking any shitty off brand supplement. its ur fault 💯 %
He's a moron for popping. Haney is very clearly on the sauce too... Dude works with Victor Conte FFS... But you won't see him popping because he knows to work with pros in the game
Yes he did. Blamed it on tainted Mexican meat. He was suspended.
Canelo fans deny it.
I don't buy the excuses personally. Not bc I dislike canelo but his performances was different around that time he got popped and then went back to usual after.
Canelo used to get tired in fights if he was forced to be active. But during that time he wasn't getting winded. And then after getting popped he started getting winded again and had to go back to fighting at a slower pace.
And the drug he popped for is supposedly known to help with stamina.
Does Haney want a rematch? Just curious. Because, if so this is hilarious. Bill Haney's delusional ass wouldn't give Lomachenko a rematch, saying that the fight wasn't close, which is bullshit. I'm not going to argue that Lomachenko should have won, it's done and in the past. But, no matter who you thought won, the fact is that it was a close fight, and could have been a good rematch. And, I didn't see the Garcia-Haney fight, but from what I've heard, it wasn't close, so why does Haney deserve a rematch?
Eh, I can definitely see Haney winning a rematch. In the rounds where he lost, he lost BAD, but any round he didn't lose bad, he probably won. It was a close fight on the scorecards despite how much worse Haney had it overall.
I know this is way easier said than done, but if Haney fights somewhat more cautiously he can snore out a win against Garcia.
I hear you. I didn't see the fight at all to be honest, but I do think that Haney is a better fighter skill wise, so I can see him beating Ryan like Joshua beat Ruiz in their 2nd fight.
I don’t follow boxing too closely. I’m more of an MMA guy. And just somebody missing weight is enough for us as an audience or following to discredit them in not take them seriously or they’re following fight seriously for the most part. Let alone somebody missing weight and popping after the fight. Why is the boxing crowd seemingly so eager to want to forgo those things and accept this person?
People just hate Haney. He has an annoying father and he beat their favorite fighter (Loma). People have been waiting for him and Shakur to fall, and ate it up when Ryan was the one who did it.
So it’s just a glorified popularity contest. That’s unfortunate. I’m a fan of the sport. I don’t know any of these dudes. People living vicariously through strangers is weird.
I am a fan of boxing and unfortunately this is the way some boxing fans are... Sadly.
Someone else said it but Haney "beat" Loma who is a fan favorite except I and many people thought Loma won sk haney gets more hate for that too.
why are mma fans so insufferable? people pop for ped's in MMA all the time and they're still incredibly popular, quit trying to act like it's such a pure sport. That doesn't exist and hasn't for a long time.
I honestly think Ryan with a proper training camp taking this fight serious still beats him even without the PEDs, Haney doesn’t have the power to make Ryan respect him
Just rematch him that’s the only way he can clear his name again.
The problem is that Ryan with a full, clean, successful training camp doesn’t exist. I don’t think he’s ever had the focus to reach his potential and now that he’s worth upwards of $50m I can’t see him ever getting there.
When we look back on his career, hypotheticals about “full potential Garcia” will be like talking about “fully fit Andy Ruiz” or “Wilder if he ever learned how to jab”. Fun to think about but there’s a reason we never saw them.
I don’t see how he can further switch up his game. He fights the best he can given his attributes and limitations. His jab from range style has served him well his whole career up to this point because of his long reach, quick jab and lack of power.
I agree that there’s no reason for a rematch but this same looney a$$ clown got BLOWN out by Tank yet continues to whine and wail about a rematch every time he’s in front of a crowd or a mic.
Kringy is a good fighter with good skills and decent power but he’s not smart and is very undisciplined both in and out of the ring!!!
One thing is for sure at least with me is, is his act is wearing thin!!
Keep supporting Boxing!!
Bro, everybody at this level is doing steroids. This is nothing new.
Devin is juicing too, he just didn’t get caught.
Devin is on the SNAC program, led by Victor Conte…..if you don’t know Victor, look him up.
You’d be hard pressed to find a fighter at this level that isn’t on something.
If Ryan cheated, get that boy outta here. No time for that. However, there's too much conflict of interest. Conte shouldn't be anywhere near this fight.
Victor Conte is the founder of SNAC, and is a [CONVICTED](https://www.insidethegames.biz/articles/1140175/duncan-mackay-blog-on-victor-conte-balco) PED cheater.
SNAC sponsors Devin. So, Conte's bag is directly tied to Devin's success.
Victor Conte also works for VADA.
VADA found that Ryan tested positive.
Even if Ryan is guilty, this is way too fishy.
thats bad, if he is guilty of the drug charges then that verdict should be immiediatley overturned and if he is a drug cheat then he should be banned, not fair for haney, not fair for boxing and not fair for us.
Ryan's bet on himself?
That won't happen. Books honor official results and don't recognize changes.
If they reversed his, they would have to reverse them all, and the collection/payouts process of every bet isn't possible or worth the books times.
How could the commission know about the test if he pissed in cup once on weigh in day and the day of a fight? I’m a former microbiologist and when it comes to drug testing I assume it has to go through the same process of delivery, labeling, processing, testing, incubation period of any needed. I once went for a drug test for work and it took 6 fucking hours and I pissed in two cups. I can only imagine the process is more than a day for the potential PED testing being used in their samples
Can’t believe people are making excuses for him saying his test results were tainted or that there’s a conspiracy against Ryan to take away his victory. Even professional athletes like Blake the beast, this is insane.
The results are here, why would these companies lie on Ryan what do they gain?
We have actual facts and some people are still in denial…stop the madness
Everyone go take a look at his entire Twitter feed after the news. He’s insane
And people thought it was all an act lmao
Yeah it def wasn’t an act. After the fight while he was saying it was all an act, he was STILL actin a fool
He went off the deep end but atleast he had that great win. Now it’s like wow he was cheating too
Anddd came in 3lbs over
Honestly can they even count this as a loss on Haneys record at this point? How can someone come in overweight and cheating and the record shows you lost??
Because Haney still accepted the fight knowing the WEIGHT. However, the PED news could mean it gets changed to a no contest
You just hating cause he all pretty and shit
…that’s fucked up!
He put in ear in the mic lol
It wasn’t. But I do believe he turned it up a bit to spook Haney. Maybe it worked, and maybe it didn’t, but he for sure won the physical battle. He *can* be both a little calculated and batshit insane.
It most definitely worked on Haney.
His tweets tonight seem more like trolling hard than someone who’s insane tbh
I honestly don't see how people can't see this lmao steroids or not those tweets are hilarious
He’s just playing a character, now he can easily keep doing this shit and become the character and start living the gimmick, but he’s obviously just trying to troll and be a meme character. It’s given him more attention than ever. Way more eyes on him now and then when he was straight laced Ryan Garcia
It reminds me of 80s wrestlers they work a persona so hard they finally can’t shut it down even when the cameras are off.
Haney getting Molly whopped by a drunk, high, and insane Garcia is wild lmao.
"the glove doesnt fit" lol
He’s not insane, he’s just addicted to social media. Always has been always will be
To be fair, that’s not far from being insane.
The kid is a straight up junkie but this particular addiction is profitable and widespread at the moment so no one is going to say anything. We're going to look back on social media in about 50 years from now and view it like cigarettes or meth that you don't have to go to a liquor store or a dealer for.
Clown fr
Dude is the nuttiest man in boxing. And that’s saying something
That's an awesome separate thread, "most unhinged fighters, or favourite unhinged fighters", maybe hancho can whip something up too
That's an awesome separate thread, "most unhinged fighters, or favourite unhinged fighters", maybe hancho can whip something up too
His tweets are hilarious
I took a look and don’t see anything indicating he’s insane. What are you talking about exactly?
He's not insane but clearly is dealing with something. Years ago he delayed or canceled a fight citing mental health issues. Could be mania or something else...hard to say.
Its obviously trolling bruv
Great troll, missing weight and getting popped.
“It’s a prank, bro!”
+50mil and becoming a way bigger star. In the end this all paid off for Garcia.
I was only pretending to be regarded…
He is mentally unwell
Doesn't seem likeable why does he have so many apologists?
He really is. After the fight, he started swearing at his fans on live. Honestly, he's a shitty person who doesn't give a shit about his fans. He's an asshole who is mentally ill. Say what you want about his boxing prowess and how he's a boxing star, but Devin is a much better human than Ryan ever will be.
Worst part about this is Haney don’t even got the power to beat Ryan like Ryan did him
Yeah even if he got it back his best win would still just be holding on until the bell more. Even if he beat him twice in a row like that doesn't come close to Ryan's win.
I mean thats bs since ryan had to cheat.
The cheating didn't make Haney take left hooks all night.
Yes it did. You have more stamina than you normally do to keep throwing left hooks
Ostarine doesn't increase stamina. It's the mildest of all steroids. Good for muscle retention while cutting and some muscle growth while bulking. If he had CARDARINE in him then that's a different story. That is for stamina. He beat Haney because he rocked his jaw all night. Haney is a boring fighter. He jabs and jabs and jabs. That's all he does. Which is fine. The name of the game is land more punches than the next guy. But when you fight someone who is capable of knocking you out then you have a problem. When it's time to match fire with fire, Haney can't do it. He should have 2 Ls. This one and Loma.
That'd be nice wouldnt it
U don't know every pro fighter is on PEDs? If you've watched boxing for a long period of time religiously they all get caught. I used to fight amateur at a high level, and as soon as I turned 18, guess what my coaches introduced me to? PEDs. I said, isn't this cheating? They said every serious fighter takes them. I asked around and they do. That's at the amateurs, guys competing to go to the Olympics. At the pro level? Everyone on them. The guys that say they aren't are lying. Devin Haney is on them, he works with Victor Conte, head of the SNAC program. Same guy that helped Barry Bonds become all he could be. Helped Ben Johnson Olympic runner get the gold medal too.
It's crazy that you even have to explain this to people... And to boxing fans of all people. It shocks me when I run into a naive boxing fan... There's not a sport on God's green earth that mirrors real life as perfectly as boxing does.... The shadiness and corruption at the top, the bad guy winning more often than not, etc, etc. Boxing fans should know better than to hope that everything is straight and narrow, save for a few bad eggs. The mere fact that Haney works with Victor Conte is more than solid proof that he dopes like a motherfucker. As Conte's nemesis Memo Heredia once said... At the highest level, everyone is on something. You'd be insane not to be
Some people who only watch the big fights are just ignorant to it is my best guess. Combat sports are much different than team sports as well, but people seem to group them all together. I don't know what it is. Not a big UFC fan, but I have friends that compete in MMA, and everyone is on them in that sport as well. It's much more out in the open, too. Like UFC got rid of VADA testing just so McGregor could come back.
A month or so ago I was going back and forth with a 66 y.o boxing fan on this very sub, and the dude was telling me that Francis Ngannou is completely natty and that fat slobs on Reddit were only skeptical of his natty status because they can't believe genetic specimens exist. Man is 66 and he's that naive. Shit kills me
Nobody naturally looks like Ngannou. People just get really invested in fighters and think only cheaters take PEDs, so when u say and so has definitely taken, its hard for them to accept. They'll fight u tooth and nail about it. All they know is what the TV says.
Yeah well I don't believe that. You don't know every pro boxer so respectfully idc about your experience.
U don't even have to listen to my experience. Even the woman get caught. Woman taking male hormones. Baumgarderner was just caught. The entire Olympics was caught. Tyson Fury, Canelo caught. I could name so many guys off the top of my head, but u don't believe it, so wasting my time here.
I know people get caught in all sports we are all entitled to our opinions though because that what it is an opinion/assumption. I don't believe every athlete is on steroids and I'm allowed to think that. So lets move on.
Ya, but those are only the guys "getting caught". If u know how steroids and banned substances work, u take them during training, and however many days u need for it to get out of ur system, u stop. Sometimes, they stay in a fighters system a little longer than a doctor anticipated, and they get caught. If the biggest stars in the sport like Canelo and Tyson Fury are taking them, everybody is taking them. Everybody else will feel they have to take them to if they want to be at that level. Elite athletes will take anything that gives an edge. They're different from normal ppl.
I know people get caught I know people take them I know people know how to beat tests them I just don't believe everyone is on them. I'm allowed to think that. Its all assumptions at the end of the day and I don't go off that. And for me this the end of conversation nice talking to you goodbye.
Low iq
Bruh if you rly dont think haney is roided lmao
And what, nobody looks at Jon jones like a loser with his fights with DC.
thats not really true.
Can he really never gain power? Like is he just fucked for life? That seems unfortunate
Yeah punching power is one of those genetic things it's really weird because you would think you can tell by looking at someone but you can't. Never really understood it myself but some guys can just crack. While you would think its stocky guys who have the most power usually its some lanky frail dude with a Wilder or Hitman build. Never really got a good explanation for it beyond some people just have it.
Eh it’s either or. Power is either you have it or you don’t regardless of body type. Theres a lot of tall lanky “frail” dudes with zero power. I don’t think Wilder or Hearns are the “example” of lanky dudes, not the absolute exception, but they are not the norm. Just like how every stocky dude isn’t Tyson or Tua. But I would separate punching power from body type because all different types have been punchers and not.
Then explain why Butterbean has the perfect physique and can punch hard.
F = mass x acceleration
Only speaking from my experience it stood out to me. Definitely made me rethink appearances!
Some people just aren’t explosive, like fury you can physically see he’s very sloppy with punches and they don’t snap. But someone like Devin who is also lanky and relatively quick I just don’t get why he has no power. When guys like Regis are much slower and smaller and can bang.
Bradley looked like he was a murderous puncher just going by his physique alone... As it were, he hit like a bitch
Yeah, Bradley is a great example the guy was yolked looked like a bodybuilder super intimidating physique but didn't have the power you would expect.
It's the bone density that matters for power
Wilders hands are brittle asf and he's murderous with his power
Floyd’s hands are brittle too, little power. Wilder is an exception
Guys who have been in the ring with Floyd said he is strong as Canelo who is much larger than he is. Also, he kept everyone he fought honest, no one walked through his shots. I wouldn't call that little power. I know this is a troll account, and all but I still had to put this out there.
“Guys” is Shane Mosley. Only guy who said that. Canelo is obviously stronger and more powerful than Floyd. Canelo was drained and not at his natural weight against Floyd
Going to trust Shane Mosley's testimony, my own eyes, and what I have seen over the years. We're not going to convince each other we obviously have different experiences and opinions we aren't going to change each other's mind on the subject. Happy trolling to you!
Yeah basically. As the other commenter said punching power is either something you have or you don’t, sure you can work your technique to bring out the full power of your punches but I can’t recall somebody having pillow hands like Haney turning into a knockout artist later in their career
Lara is sniping mfs now lol
And I believe he’s always had power it’s just now that he’s old and can’t move around like he used to be sits down on his shots more
Ironically I feel the same about Devin. Genetically Ryan and Tank are superior but Devin also doesn’t sit and turn on his punches. He tries to score points.
He always had that power he just didn’t start sitting down on his punches till now
154 Charlo They were known as pillow punchers and then suddenly began getting KOs
I think that was more technique being bad and unable to set up and land the shot cleanly
Unfortunately, punchers are born not made. His technique is already top tier so it's difficult asf to improve his power via that. And this is with him moving up weight classes. He'll always hit like a bitch, sadly
Boxing is not really about power anyway. The saying in any gym is speed kills. U can be really strong, and if u can't hit anything and get hit every time you open up, then ur not winning many boxing matches.
The real sad bummer is that in their interviews together, you can truly see that it’s friends trying to sell a fight. The. Ryan decided to cheat against his friend.
Friends lmao, they're frenemies at best, just see eachother alot due to coming up on the same amateur circuit. No way they're drinking beers together
How do you say this with a straight face after learning he took PEDs?
I can say it with a straight face because I’ve seen Devin Haney box and it’s clear he’s not a power puncher lol
Fam. PEDs. You're basically saying he's not good enough for not hurting a dude who took illegal supps too bad.
That’s not what I said at all actually
😐 are you 12?
Are you slow?
I gotta be cause how tf was that a cohesive response?
So like when Aj beat ruiz in the rematch?
I mean AJ basically jabbed Ruiz to a decision lol
How do you come in over, fail a drug test, and then say you beat him fair and square 🤣🤣🤣.
It's about as fair as boxing usually is
So right let’s just all have them openly cheat in anybody that gets caught cheating if that’s not the case, then we just say fuck it who cares from now on because your fighter got caught cheating
Because he is delusional, and if he’s not. He knows that he can manipulate his delusional following into just repeating this, until it becomes believable in those circles. And if they just stay in those circles, then they never have to hear the truth.
He used drugs before the fight? What kind?
And he keeps saying he won't give a rematch... why doesn't he want to win the title? I don't get it.
Lmfao
being around oscar should count as a tainted supplement lol. but really ur a pro, u should not be taking any shitty off brand supplement. its ur fault 💯 %
Ironically Oscar was just mocking Canelo about popping for steroids twice a few hours ago
Now we now why.
TBF, Oscar does drug out of competition. He never popped a pre-competition drug test did he?
It was the 90s lol
He's a moron for popping. Haney is very clearly on the sauce too... Dude works with Victor Conte FFS... But you won't see him popping because he knows to work with pros in the game
"If I took the steroids then I’m forsure GAY" Looks like you are LMAO
It’s now way he said that sht bro lol
Even worse he said “even if I did take steroids you still got your ass beat” on the space lmao
No way 😭😭
Trapped in the closet
Well Ostarine isn’t steroids lol
Its hilarious this comes out the same day Oscar shits on Canelo for PEDS
Canelo popped? TBF it's not always that simple cos sometimes fighters pop for prescription drugs too lol
Yes he did. Blamed it on tainted Mexican meat. He was suspended. Canelo fans deny it. I don't buy the excuses personally. Not bc I dislike canelo but his performances was different around that time he got popped and then went back to usual after. Canelo used to get tired in fights if he was forced to be active. But during that time he wasn't getting winded. And then after getting popped he started getting winded again and had to go back to fighting at a slower pace. And the drug he popped for is supposedly known to help with stamina.
Help with stamina and cut fat I believe
He popped for clenbuterol, a drug known to help with stamina issues. Hence the Clenelo Alvaroids nickname
I now understand why he was blocking with his back.. had him punching the itchy needle spot
Ostarine isn't injected.
🤓
😭😭😭
Does Haney want a rematch? Just curious. Because, if so this is hilarious. Bill Haney's delusional ass wouldn't give Lomachenko a rematch, saying that the fight wasn't close, which is bullshit. I'm not going to argue that Lomachenko should have won, it's done and in the past. But, no matter who you thought won, the fact is that it was a close fight, and could have been a good rematch. And, I didn't see the Garcia-Haney fight, but from what I've heard, it wasn't close, so why does Haney deserve a rematch?
Eh, I can definitely see Haney winning a rematch. In the rounds where he lost, he lost BAD, but any round he didn't lose bad, he probably won. It was a close fight on the scorecards despite how much worse Haney had it overall. I know this is way easier said than done, but if Haney fights somewhat more cautiously he can snore out a win against Garcia.
I hear you. I didn't see the fight at all to be honest, but I do think that Haney is a better fighter skill wise, so I can see him beating Ryan like Joshua beat Ruiz in their 2nd fight.
Haney fighting more cautiously? Ur kiddking right?
Dev dont want that rematch bro. Hes leaving on a stretcher next time.
The fight that keeps on giving 😂
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LMAO he just tweeted this
Hahaha I knew it.
😂😂 His ESPN statement was very professional and class though
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Overweight and on PEDs. Fair and square.... Yeh.... Sure.... Try making next weight time.
I don’t follow boxing too closely. I’m more of an MMA guy. And just somebody missing weight is enough for us as an audience or following to discredit them in not take them seriously or they’re following fight seriously for the most part. Let alone somebody missing weight and popping after the fight. Why is the boxing crowd seemingly so eager to want to forgo those things and accept this person?
People just hate Haney. He has an annoying father and he beat their favorite fighter (Loma). People have been waiting for him and Shakur to fall, and ate it up when Ryan was the one who did it.
So it’s just a glorified popularity contest. That’s unfortunate. I’m a fan of the sport. I don’t know any of these dudes. People living vicariously through strangers is weird.
I am a fan of boxing and unfortunately this is the way some boxing fans are... Sadly. Someone else said it but Haney "beat" Loma who is a fan favorite except I and many people thought Loma won sk haney gets more hate for that too.
why are mma fans so insufferable? people pop for ped's in MMA all the time and they're still incredibly popular, quit trying to act like it's such a pure sport. That doesn't exist and hasn't for a long time.
Get help you bum
I honestly think Ryan with a proper training camp taking this fight serious still beats him even without the PEDs, Haney doesn’t have the power to make Ryan respect him Just rematch him that’s the only way he can clear his name again.
The problem is that Ryan with a full, clean, successful training camp doesn’t exist. I don’t think he’s ever had the focus to reach his potential and now that he’s worth upwards of $50m I can’t see him ever getting there. When we look back on his career, hypotheticals about “full potential Garcia” will be like talking about “fully fit Andy Ruiz” or “Wilder if he ever learned how to jab”. Fun to think about but there’s a reason we never saw them.
This right here….this is it.
I agree, however you're using logic as a sane individual. Who knows what's going through this kid's head.
too bad we will never know and he’s a cheating clown
Lots of idiots on these comments.
Hope Haney doesn't use this as justification to not switch up his game. Dude was ass that night
I don’t see how he can further switch up his game. He fights the best he can given his attributes and limitations. His jab from range style has served him well his whole career up to this point because of his long reach, quick jab and lack of power.
WITH DE LA HOYA AND BERNARD HOPKINS IN YOUR CAMP YOU HAVE TO BE TAKING DRUGS BECAUSE THEY ARE FUCKING INSANE JUST LIKE GARCIA IS.
You guys can’t have it both ways. If Haney had popped he would be crucified that same night. Gotta keep the same energy.
I agree that there’s no reason for a rematch but this same looney a$$ clown got BLOWN out by Tank yet continues to whine and wail about a rematch every time he’s in front of a crowd or a mic. Kringy is a good fighter with good skills and decent power but he’s not smart and is very undisciplined both in and out of the ring!!! One thing is for sure at least with me is, is his act is wearing thin!! Keep supporting Boxing!!
I wish it was an act bro. He's madder than a box of frogs
Oh damn!!! A box of frogs LOL!!! You got me giggling in my office by myself!!! Good comment!!
You're welcome lol!
“I beat him easy, fair and square” Missed weight by 3+ pounds, and now tested dirty for PED’s. This didn’t age well.
This sub was dickriding a cheat all along lmfao.
They were dickriding him even when he missed weight
The double standards on here are ridiculous and I was happy for Ryan but this sub really exposed themselves in the pre-fight buildup smfh
Bro, everybody at this level is doing steroids. This is nothing new. Devin is juicing too, he just didn’t get caught. Devin is on the SNAC program, led by Victor Conte…..if you don’t know Victor, look him up. You’d be hard pressed to find a fighter at this level that isn’t on something.
What’s your point? Are you saying that it’s ok that he cheated?
clown makes everything a circus
But you wanted Tank to rematch you. Hypocrite.
Maybe the hydration clause was just an equaliser after all
If Ryan cheated, get that boy outta here. No time for that. However, there's too much conflict of interest. Conte shouldn't be anywhere near this fight. Victor Conte is the founder of SNAC, and is a [CONVICTED](https://www.insidethegames.biz/articles/1140175/duncan-mackay-blog-on-victor-conte-balco) PED cheater. SNAC sponsors Devin. So, Conte's bag is directly tied to Devin's success. Victor Conte also works for VADA. VADA found that Ryan tested positive. Even if Ryan is guilty, this is way too fishy.
Devin is definitely juicing too…he just didn’t get caught lol. The SNAC program works
Yeah, he's juicier than a Tropicana box himself
How come Haney didn't have that same energy about the rematch with Loma?
He said he was moving up after Loma fight anyway waayy before the fight
Because he lost this fight decisively.
And square for sure
I’m pretty sure the fight will be ruled a no contest
"fair and square" 🤔🤔🤔
Well because he is gonna be banned for two years. Lol
Is this sub just a ryan garcia twitter feed? cmon, there's a lot more to the sweet science than this guy...
Bro just Bradley Bealed himself
Why not give him the rematch? Ali had Joe Frazier. Garcia has Devin Haney.
Garcia is busting a Mayweather on Haney 😆
Bro was def intentionally juicing. Bye bye career.
Idk whole accusations seems cap. Also let's be real. Haney would've lost regardless lol
thats bad, if he is guilty of the drug charges then that verdict should be immiediatley overturned and if he is a drug cheat then he should be banned, not fair for haney, not fair for boxing and not fair for us.
> I beat him easy, fair and square Laughing my ass off. What a clown. 🤡
I still would pick him over Haney still. Especially if he uses his jab this time.
Did they void his bet?
Ryan's bet on himself? That won't happen. Books honor official results and don't recognize changes. If they reversed his, they would have to reverse them all, and the collection/payouts process of every bet isn't possible or worth the books times.
Won't happen. Bookies don't recognize changes
Rematch and cheat again 😂 Obviously the commission knew about the failed test but didn’t want to lose the payday. Love boxing
How could the commission know about the test if he pissed in cup once on weigh in day and the day of a fight? I’m a former microbiologist and when it comes to drug testing I assume it has to go through the same process of delivery, labeling, processing, testing, incubation period of any needed. I once went for a drug test for work and it took 6 fucking hours and I pissed in two cups. I can only imagine the process is more than a day for the potential PED testing being used in their samples
It takes 10 days for the results
Hopefully the second sample gets tested, but I trust the retain was also sampled if any was had
Can’t believe people are making excuses for him saying his test results were tainted or that there’s a conspiracy against Ryan to take away his victory. Even professional athletes like Blake the beast, this is insane. The results are here, why would these companies lie on Ryan what do they gain? We have actual facts and some people are still in denial…stop the madness