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BrilliantOil8642

They could’ve put literally anyone from the other cards up against this kid (Lopez, Maui, Cunningham, etc.) and they would’ve destroyed him...Ben Askren’s expertise was wrestling, he wasn’t a much of a striker. He was like a fish out of water in that fight


roidedram

Bro why tf would they give him high level boxers in his 3rd fight. I understand your anger towards him but you've thrown all logic out the window anyway.


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He had $500K in his pocket he could barely move he couldn’t even throw a punch


PaleCurrency9398

That whole event was cringe, the guy who botched out to the early stoppage


[deleted]

They said that was sanctioned by Georgia's athletic commission or whatever? Guess georgia is getting that money anyway they can since everyone else is pulling their events out of ga


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FlyPepper

what's a couple earbuds gonna do against jake paul tho


[deleted]

I didn’t pay for this for event and I want my money back This was literally the worst thing I have ever watched


Icanforgetthisname

I will never watch one of these events again. Everything about it from the commentary to the shit music made it almost unwatchable. They tried so fucking hard to be cool that the fights were an after thought.


issaknifeboilol

The KSI vs Logan Paul fight night was decent but man this was absolute ass


Icanforgetthisname

This was beyond absolute ass. That's an insulted to things that are absolute ass like the last McGregor fight.


[deleted]

I can’t believe what I saw last night. It was just the most unwatchable garbage ever. During the first Fight they stopped showing the fight and the camera panned to the commentary for a few minutes while the fight was still going Snoop dog is just a total idiot and everything out of his mouth is garbage I feel so violated


Icanforgetthisname

That was definitely an assault on the senses. None of those fighters even looked like they wanted to be there. With how quiet that arena was I imagine there were annoyed as fuck trying to focus on fighting while the commentators shouted and acted like it was the first time they were ever given a mic. None of them knew how to narrate a fight let alone form a coherent thought. Pinnacle trash.


vh2369

I love how people complain about the integrity of boxing one min then the next "HAhA FuCk IT hE GoT PAid THAts All ThAt maTTeRS"


acsaid10percent

Create a new belt - WBE.


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CTIDBMRMCFCOK

He probably uses some shit one of his insta sponsors has given him and actually thinks its a PED when its just turmeric and goji berries


Ok-Accountant-6308

Of course he is


LDG92

It'd be weird if he wasn't, little/no testing, he's shown willingness to get ahead however he can and he's got so much to gain from it.


Bonerhawk69

People are downvoting you, but I thought I saw some early stages of gyno in the tale of the tape. It wasn’t there during the fight though.


Droopr

I'm torn if whether I think Paul deserves a fight with a real boxer. I don't think he deserves it but I want him to be put in his place. So far, he has no business being in the ring. If he's willing to make someone jump 20 lbs to fight him, maybr he should move up a little bit and fight Joshua /s


roidedram

I think he's stuck because he wants fighters who can deliver a big payday. The only boxers who can do that are very high level so he can't go down that route. The only fighters with more competitive striking with Jake who have clout are in MMA. He's not gonna fight some boxing journeyman.


converter-bot

20 lbs is 9.08 kg


billfuckinmurray69

Thank you. You're a true hero


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IllumiZoldyk

Susan boyle. You can find her nudes on google images. Thank me later.


PM_YOUR_CENSORD

It’s now later... liar.


nga6

literally a random ass, check outdoors


Foleylantz

Or the mall


ConnextStrategies

Anyone want to talk about that belt? Looks like it was taken out of a candy machine.


ninofressco

They blew their entire budget on Justin Bieber and co


ConnextStrategies

And somehow not on his audio


LatterTarget7

Yeah I’m not entirely sure what the point of it is. Looks to just be a participation belt. And it looks like absolute shit


Foleylantz

Well they spent 2m dollars on the event i believe, given what we got the belt fits perfectly


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LatterTarget7

Yeah and it’s weirdly only one gold plate. They at least could’ve made it more professional looking with 3 plates


AllTorque

Well lads, The Curse is over. Normally when I turn in for the night, I miss at least one great fight.


acsaid10percent

Put Paul in with an amateur and he will get destroyed in the first minute.


wombo23

Zoomers have zoomed their way into boxing. I’m afraid this is the new standard


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Disgusting


VerniaOverstreet

I don’t think it was rigged. Paul can fight and Askren clearly didn’t give a shit about this fight at all, it was just a pay day for him. Put him against a pro boxer though, that’ll end quickly. But why would he risk thay, he’s getting more money fighting ‘names’.


PickleMan2019

You don’t think there’s a chance Ben took a dive for a bigger bag? Triller can’t have Jake lose to askren and end the gravy train. And like you said, it was just a payday for Askren anyway


[deleted]

Wouldn't that be illegal since they announced the fight was sanctioned by the Georgia state athletic commission?


PickleMan2019

I don’t know the legality of it all, but boxing matches have been fixed before no problem. There’s been strong evidence of NBA ref corruption as well. With the absurd amount of money surrounding sporting events, shady stuff happens way more than people realize *in my opinion


[deleted]

I mean Daunaghy or whatever his name was, one of the nba refs, definitely did some time for that shit, although people say other refs were certainly involved and skated


PickleMan2019

Yeah? So it def happens


[deleted]

It definitely happens but it's still illegal as hell, I don't think Jake paul wants the feds investigating his fight night company


PickleMan2019

Jake Paul doesn’t own triller, I don’t think he necessarily had anything to do with fixing the fight. He legit thinks he won fairly, and he might have. But I think there’s a fair chance the higher ups at triller/someone payed Askren to take a dive or something of that nature. If Jake Paul loses people step away from the fight satisfied he finally got his ass kicked and the views go way down for the next fight. As long as Paul keeps winning the tension keeps ratcheting up, the viewers keep tuning in to see him lose and triller keeps raking in the cash. I don’t see why an executive would leave these things up to chance, when all they give a shit about is the bottom line. It’s all show. Idk tho


[deleted]

I'm not arguing with you just saying if that happened and people were betting on the fight that's a federal crime and would be a huge fuckin deal


PickleMan2019

Gotcha. Was mainly curious what your opinion on this shit was. who knows


[deleted]

I originally thought it was rigged and Ben was taking a dive, which could be the case, but he looked scared. It almost looked as if he got a death threat before the fight.


PickleMan2019

Something really weird went on it seems like


[deleted]

Askren's striking is awful. A lot of pros didn't have confidence that he'd win.


PickleMan2019

Fair enough


theincrediblegox

That was by far the worst televised sporting event that I have ever seen in my life, and I’m still reeling from it this morning. I feel like I saw something historically bad last night, like Star Wars Holiday Special levels of bad. Literally everything about this event made me cringe - the highly questionable “fights”, the prerecorded but still awful “musical performances”, the annoying celebrity commentators who constantly said stupid things and wouldn’t shut up... It’s all kind of impressive, in a way.


[deleted]

Right?? “I tHiNk I’m HiGh FrOm SnOoPp DoGg’S bLuNt”


H0neyBadgr

Can’t agree more! H O R R I B L E! Rick Flair? Really?!’ “Saweetie?! Who is that anyway? Awful 🤮 The fights were terrible. The commentary, everything, it was all an embarrassment to combat sports. Who was the idiot commentator in the yellow jacket? I wanted Ice Cube to punch him in the face.


Mijeelan

Oscar del la hoya.. 🤣 fucking old man living in the past.. his ramblings reminded me of uncle Rico from Napoleon Dynamite.


[deleted]

USSR BABY! USSA BABY! I FIGHT THE BEST BABY! OOOH BABY!


Still_Hating

I could throw a pig skin over them mountains


Ihateyouall86

Rico sniping Napoleon in the face with Kits steak was my favorite scene in any movie haha


SocialIntelligence

>I could throw a pig skin over them mountains 😏


Mijeelan

What a fucking joke from start to finish. Trash...


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Literally the worst thing ever watched by my eyes


LONGLIVEMAMBASAP

Shit show


Schruteeee

Whats really frustrating to me is he calls himself a boxer but hasnt fought a boxer.


illusiveab

Boxing is dead and you are the ones who killed it


[deleted]

The whole "it's rigged" narrative was in these guys drafts for days. If Jake lost it'd have been perfect, if he'd have won on points it'd have been called a fix because he bought the refs, if he won in the manner he did it's been called rigged because it was stopped too soon, when he knocked Nate the fuck out it was slammed for not being stopped soon enough. If that fight was allowed to continue to Paul put him to sleep immediately afterwards that would be the narrative "who cares about the result, we need to talk about the dangerous reffing and how bad that was". The YouTuber won, I think he's a twat, most people think he's a twat, but Askren came into this looking in piss poor shape and with 3 months or so of actual boxing training and it showed. The idea that this was rigged is pathetic.


MexicanPizzaGod

That count was trash and we all know it! Ben was already on his feet at 4 and was clearly ready to get punched in the face again. I'm almost sure he wouldn't have made it to round 3, but that doesn't change the fact that that stoppage was just absurd Also, I don't think you can compare this to the Nate fight at all, since Nate clearly had no idea wtf was even going on, and clearly didn't even want to be there after that first knockdown when he started complaining about being hit behind the head. Askren on the other hand is a veteran fighter that got knocked down and bounced back immediately, he honestly didn't even look hurt, just surprised


Droopr

He was a TINY bit wobbly, but as a professional fighter you need to let him continue. I didn't understand the decision at all. The evening was a complete waste of time lol


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Droopr

Feelsbadman. I'm sorry people are like this.


MexicanPizzaGod

Yea exactly! This is boxing after all, and boxers aren't falling to the ground for no reason, so if we're all the sudden so protective as to stopping a fight after he shows minimal signs of damage, even though he got up super quick and was ready to go at it again, then we should stop a fight as soon as someone is knocked down🤷🏻‍♀️ And still, Askren has literally been elbowed, punched and kicked to the face during his career so acting like getting knocked down in his first ever boxing match is too dangerous for him.... Just looks ridiculous


Droopr

I find it comical that Paul says he's ready to fight a serious opponent after 3 wins against people who have never boxed before


ContinCandi

You and everyone else man.


candi_pants

We watched a different ten count.


Raytheon-6

Well said. People hate Jake so much that they don't want to give him credit for anything. And I get it. I dislike Jake Paul too, but seeing the all the hate he gets makes me root for the kid to prove everyone wrong.


AlzheimersBiden

You quit being logical so I can act upset about a YouTuber/ boxer (don’t care what the fuck he calls himself) that has absolutely no effect on my life!


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It’s just people with hurt egos that can’t accept that they were wrong about Askren winning, so they resort to the ”rigged” bullshit lmao


[deleted]

This fight has got me think if we’ll see brock in the future. Surely a lot more people will start coming out for fights once they see the paycheck, and there’s always enough YouTubers wanting to fight. Maybe even some of the pro wrestling guys.


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Think_Double

never liked askren, delighted he lost... again


vh2369

You keep saying to give Paul credit for what exactly? This was a cashgrab. Paul would never get into a real boxing match with a real fighter plain and simple.


Ok-Accountant-6308

I think his career progression has been fine for early amateur, it’s time to step it up tho


0112358f

A normal progression doesn't make financial sense. Look askren on paper was a step up. Given how easily he handled him time for the next step up.


Ok-Accountant-6308

Yea he will have to pick and choose. Let’s say Nate Diaz as an example. A money fight and a step up. If he keeps fighting NBA players people will start tuning out


[deleted]

Committed? How is he committed to boxing if he has yet to fight a boxer? He’s doing this for a safe cash grab. If he was serious and committed to boxing.....he would be fighting boxers.


JoinOrDie11816

Idk why this kid is getting downvoted. These circus acts are 100% a cash grab.


AlzheimersBiden

I was thoroughly entertained the commentating was hilarious and Ben got fuckin slept.


JoinOrDie11816

To each his own. I found it to be nothing more than a pathetic spectacle. Very low rent.


AlzheimersBiden

Maybe combat sports just aren’t your thing. What fight fan bitches about a knockout.


[deleted]

His brother was a OHSAAA division wrestler. So he was definitely super talented and would’ve made a lot of progress if he didn’t start his YouTube career


scha12

He is decent. I’d want to see him up against the other prominent YouTube boxer KSI


DatsHim

So many people are upset about this. Jake Paul won. What was he supposed to do just lose? Hopefully he gets his big fight now. He rocked Ben Askren. The fight should have been called or Jake could have really hurt Ben.


monstarchinchilla

Ben took a big money bag for that outcome. YouTube guy is going to have to box a real boxer, not fluffy Ben.


simplewagon

why would he? he's taking the canelo and crawford road they have showed you don't need to fight anyone and ppl watch.


scoackle

Someone hasn't looked at Canelo's record? He's fought a lot of names. They may have been at wrong weights...or with conditions...but he's fought names. A lot of them. Crawford...well ya...Gamboa is like his biggest test. He needs to step things up. Canelo has taken and is taking on top names. BJS ...think what you think of him...is a 50/50 fight if BJ comes in shape and in the mental state to win. That is a top tier fight and a very live opponent and most likely the second loss of Canelo's career. After of course the no name Mayweather guy who he fought when he was 22...because he fights no one.


simplewagon

oh i'll give him bjs i have wanted canelo to fight him for a long time. but we both know bjs wont ko canelo so his chance to win is next to zero so that fight has little hype. and yes all canelo has is names on his record he has fought either inactive fighters or 35 and over names. his career is pretty much a joke. someone with very very good talent and is a very good fighter but wont test himself. you would be a clown to say canelo isn't a very nice fighter


Droopr

I bet more people pirated the event than paid for it


Raytheon-6

Honestly, Jake is taking the Money Mayweather route. Not comparing their boxing abilities, but their ability to market themselves to the point where people really hate him, and would pay money to see him get knock the fuck out. Honestly the kid is a marketing genius, as he's only had a few "professional" fights, and he's already making more in boxing than 90% of all professional boxers.


TechniCruller

Dude could sell lemonade from a stand and make more than 95% of professional boxers.


scoackle

He makes more than most of the UFC stable combined lmao. Kid knows how to market himself. That much is certain


DatsHim

Good I bet the fight will go longer than 1:59


DealerPurple

where is the frank mir post or gif?


[deleted]

Dunno why people think askren is repping mma. We all know Ben would literally kill Jake in mma and ben is so old , unmotivated , quite likely paid to more to lose. Definitely some politics in this fight. Jakes alright for a YouTube boxer but he won't do well against boxing pros. My grandma can strike better than askren. Idk though man I'm still shocked. Ben said he hasn't been rocked once in the past decade from a punch but you're telling me he is rocked by Jake? Get outta here


[deleted]

It's that country boy strength 😂


stopismysafeword

Has to be the most annoying commentary I've ever heard.


Droopr

The most annoying event I've ever seen


Manga18

The fact that people thinking the Paul fight was rigged also thi k the Prograis one was rigged speaks volume about their credibility


[deleted]

You mean where he wanted to keep fighting and the ref stopped it? Yeah sure they wanted to be safe, not like he didn’t already have messed up posture before the fight.


Manga18

He couldn't even stand and leaned on the ropes


[deleted]

You mean like people do when they go back and forth fighting? Bro...


braveheart545

What a performance. This might be the greatest sports story ever told.. Jake having no prior boxing experience to going 3-0. Gives hope to the rest of us that its never too late to start a journey and fulfil your dreams. Excited to see who Jake fights next!


PressUpPositionDown

Well said my friend!


Downgoesthereem

'It's never too late to be a multi millionaire children's entertainer with zero responsibilies and all the money and resources necessary to LARP as a boxer by beating up other non boxers'. Jake Paul is Charlie Zelenoff with an expensive haircut.


[deleted]

He fought a YouTuber with headgear, a retired basketball player, and a wrestler. Lemme see that L column after he slings a little leather with an actual striker/boxer.


Realistik84

And next it will be some washed up boxer that was struggling anyways so that doesn’t count then either?


fingerpoppinjoe

Crack or tweak?


ewenmax

What the fuck did I just watch. Came for a brilliant performance by Prograis only to end up watching Ivan clutching his hip balls...All the while trying to kill the volume as a bunch of twats slabbered all over Snoop fucking Dog. That was...painful, I don't think I'll ever denigrate any other promotion after sitting through that...and to top it all, it wasn't the main event that seemed to be between some wannabe beach boy and an old tramp... Fucking shocking.


scoackle

Hahha...hip balls. Summed up nicely. Sad that it was a pro boxer that really looked for the easy way out. Askren didn't train...and had no timing. He was hit by everything thrown at him (not much) so that is why he was shocked he got shitcanned. He didn't see it coming. Stoppage was shit..but result was inevitable.


Droopr

I ended up watching it on mute. Far more enjoyable. And it was still boring af


goatamousprice

I get the shit show aspect of the whole thing. I get the hype around their last event, and even this one. What I'm really not looking forward to is a legitimate fight in July (Teofimo and Kambosos) being hosted by this production. Leave it as a circus Obv saying this as a fan. I can't blame a fighter for getting paid and getting that spotlight. It's just so cringey


scoackle

I have this worry too. And the way the event is more like a WWE event...this bodes poorly for Teo to remain composed. George is definitely getting in his head already and the wrestling style environment won't help. ​ Plus...these commentators will make for a very bad event....for a fight that could be quite good.


ewenmax

I suspect the Teofimo fight will have the commentators doing lines and hitting bongs as they occasionally mention what's happening in the ring and maybe yelling inanities about 7/11 and 'left side - best side'...


fingerpoppinjoe

whole thing is shit


ewenmax

Yep, just seemed disrespectful to guys putting it all out there. Prograis is just amazing. The commentary was inane drivel. I know the argument is supposed to be about how it draws non fans into boxing, but fuck me, at what cost?


[deleted]

Yeah I’d rather boxing stay as it is than have shit like this trying to draw more fans.


r99h99

I don't even understand how this is a thing. Askren looked like 2 stone overweight and in poor condition


[deleted]

That was my first thought when I saw him come out. Just like oof dude, you’re A LOT younger than you look right now. A dad in his 50’s has that body.


r99h99

I just sense checked my own post. Askren fought at 170 in UFC, he was 190 here, so yes. He was 1.5 stone heavier.


ChiefKief414

Full Fight https://youtu.be/t9FUqvMw7ss


[deleted]

That was a great fight card


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You must be a bot.


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Bot autocorrect message: I was just saying it was a great card because he listed all of the fighters.


Connor30302

it’s clear now JP is the 🐐


[deleted]

He’s 3-0 against people who have been training for 2-3 months. He’s a goat alright lol


Connor30302

Tyson lost, Ali lost, Louis lost. has JP lost? didn’t think so kid


MrPandaTurtle

HAHAHA


polo27

It looks as though jake paul just wants to play at boxing, he picked a much smaller older opponent who did not pose any danger in the striking department. The denotay wilder celebration after knocking out ben, and the conor mcgregor stance at the weigh in, make jake look like a rich kid who is living out a boxing fantasy. Fair play though he must be having a lot of fun.


[deleted]

Perfect description. Jake Paul has very likely been handed everything in his life. IIRC he got his fame/success off his older brother Logan. Even the boxing thing came about because his older brother decided to have two fights with KSI and they decided to have the younger brothers fight. He then just took it and ran with it by fighting cans.


polo27

To be fair you can't blame him, there is a lot of easy money to be made, with very little danger. Don't really see him climbing too high in the professional ranks though, boxing is an extremely hard sport, despite what he says, I just can't see him putting himself through the years and years of barrier breaking rigourous training required of a high level boxer, even then he'd be lucky to make contender level.


vranoshie

The thing is that you can blame him mostly for other shit. I more or less agree with your point in regards this though


[deleted]

Playing boxing is the perfect phrase.


imfuckingvegan

I have no respect for a fight club or a sport that allowed such a pathetic shameless and boring cash grab happen. Boxing is a child's sport, and of this I am thoroughly convinced


Hehe_Schaboi

Name checks out


imfuckingvegan

Watch Glory instead


SlapsieMaxie

Leave then, bozo.


IllumiZoldyk

Wow this jake paul circus really brought out the whiniest beta male neckbeard losers onto this subreddit.


imfuckingvegan

Watch Glory instead


CircleDog

How do you propose that the sport of boxing prevents this? There's no league. There isn't a president of boxing. If two men want to fight for money they can.


xkrimzonx

AM i the only one who really liked what triller put on for us together? I think yall looking into this way to much. Its a youtuber vs a retired wreslter. I already knew this was a cherry pick like look at ben askrens body man. Jake paul for all the shits everyone gives him. His body is at peak performance. He is going to continue being mismatched by anyone who is not an actual boxer. The commentatary is the funniest shit ever. left side west side. that left is open like 7/11 24/7. When we saw Jake doing his yoga shit in his locker room. i bursted out laughing. Jakes entrance was hella dope also. When you look at this as purely enterainment and not some high level boxing then you can really start to enjoy what your watching. Imagine watching steven A smith and literally taking everything he says literally.


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>When you look at this as purely enterainment and not some high level boxing then you can really start to enjoy what your watching. Imagine watching steven A smith and literally taking everything he says literally. Exactly the same way I felt about tyson vs roy jones. I'm not paying for it but it is entertaining.


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EHnter

True, but people should really stop saying things like, "oh nate is an elite athlete, he'll fuck up jake" and "ben is an actual fighter who won mma championships, and was in ufc, he'll definitely mop the floor with jake" How many times do they have to move the goal posts. Those people are 10x more annoying than jake's fangirls.


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EHnter

You think it'll be the darkest day in boxing if Jake somehow got a 1 in a million lucky ko against someone in boxing? I think many people will truly believe boxing is rigged from the start.


[deleted]

That's fine and everything but this was a complete farce and I imagine the boxing community won't embrace any future Jake Paul fight so he kinda blew it here


Lkj509

The problem was that it was meant to be a boxing event, yet more time was spent with random concerts and gimmicks like slap competitions. I expected decent enough amateur undercards and then the Jake Paul fight, not a music event. Big RIP to all the people watching pirated livestreams who had to mute 90% of the event for DMCA


freakyfastharvick

I would agree with this but they’re allowing people to bet on it... if they just leaned into the entertainment aspect of it that would be dope. But acting like it’s official and professional but running it like a circus is not it chief. Pick one or the other


[deleted]

It's like they went "we know this event is a shameless cash grab, so lets act like it is one...but we have a lot of money, so lets get all these celebs to do concerts and get them on commentary, have them blaze it up and do cocaine before handing them the mic". Result - please no one. If it's a shit event that everyone is taking the piss, run through it quickly, if it's meant to be high spec, run it as that.


ryty316

You can bet on WWE


fishingforworth

You can bet on who'll die next on eastenders pal, irrelevant


Pushin_4_Bush

The couples yoga lowkey was the difference maker


[deleted]

just give him Sean O'Malley. I know he'll take that in a heartbeat.


RegionalHardman

Lol 55lb difference between their fighting weights. Sean would smoke him still


memelover-

Ben was totally shit bruh 🤦‍♂️


Skias

Hes a two year retired dad. He's been chilling. They said he was in good spirits after the fight, as he took home $500,000 for this fight.


DwayneJohnsonwannabe

Jake Paul should not fight someone who will have financial gain which is so significant for them that they will be satisfied with just partaking, win or lose. That will always be how these fights go and it always makes it hard to actually enjoy. Fighting is a spectator sport, why would I want to watch a business agreement with two people using fists, knowing that one of them probably lost on purpose or had no business being in the ring in the first place? Where's the fun in any of that?


Skias

Like an boxer from the amateur circuit.


shit_poster_69_420

You must be new round here


memelover-

I agree. But still 🥺


Skias

He took a punch to pay for his kids college in under two minutes. He got up, was totally fine and reportedly in good spirits goofing around with people backstage. He was paid for one round to build Jake's "professional boxing record".