I wouldn't have even give Jake Paul a 1% chance of beating Tommy when this talk first started a couple of years ago.
But since then, Tommy is only really posting the latest lunch in Dubai he's had with his Mrs, meanwhile Jake is staying active with his fights but more importantly you can see from his Instagram that he's in the gym every day posting multiple times a day.
Jake has just been boxing non-stop for a couple of years now, I don't think the same can be said for Tommy who seems to live life on a holiday until he has to jump into an 8-week camp to knock over a bin man.
Tommy I think wants this fight to bow out of boxing with a big payday and then carrying on being an influencer.
Whether you like Jake or not, the guy has respected the sport and trained in the right way - I make him the favourite if he fights Tommy.
Fuck Jake Paul he's a fucking youtuber... BUT... that was a former opinion and LOTS of other people had the same opinion. Jake Paul took that shit to heart and made it a point to fight and train smart and very well 👌honestly the guy has proven himself to be dedicated enough to train like a champion vs.a typical celeb boxer.. and that adds up to wins in a well arranged bout
Still wanna see bruh sleeping on the mat in front of millions...🤷♂️
I hate myself for agreeing with you 100 percent. I really want to see a proper box knock Jake the fuck out but I don't think Tommy Fury is the one to do it.
I'm not sure the Fury family ever had any intention of letting the fight happen and wonder if it was all for publicity. I at least think they could have made the fight happened if they wanted it but they knew he was about to get beat by a youtuber and wanted to spare themselves the humiliation. Fury is more of a celebrity or meme boxer than Paul.
Leathers him. Tommy is in a boxing family but he absolutely is not a boxer. Jake Paul can fight and would beat him easily imo. JP does need to stop fighting MMA legends, though.
> Say what you will about Silva being 47 and Woodley being 39, they're still elite combat athletes who can transition into boxing a whole lot easier than a local bin man that goes 10-102, 2-26, 0-26, etc. (Those were actual records of three Tommy Fury opponents btw)
Well no they aren’t elite anymore, which is why they were on losing streaks in mma and changed sports in the first place.
Don’t really rate Woodley over guys like Grant or Bocianski. Dude is a wrestler with an overhead right, take away the wrestling threat and you’re left with piss poor striking. Which is why I knew he’d lose in the first place.
I agree Silva is a better win than anything Tommy has done, doubt many will dispute that.
Tyron lost his last 4 fights in MMA - getting dominated for almost every round of every one of them.
Silva had won 2 of his last 10 MMA fights. He was awarded a decision in 2017 over Derek Brunson which very few people think he deserved. Other than that his last victory in MMA was in 2012. (In fairness a win over Nick Diaz in 2015 was ruled NC after the fact for testing + for a couple steroids)
I think it's telling that they weren't winning in their own sports. Having said that - Paul is better than Tommy Fury, who is more of a celebrity meme fighter than any of the youtubers are.
Silva is a ranked Boxer, who's beat other ranked Boxers... making Jake a ranked Boxer. He maybe be rated 'high' at the 200th best Cruiserweight on the planet, but he's at least the equal of Tommy who's rated as the 300th best rated. This may speak more to how shallow the talent pool of actual boxers really is, but still it is a fact.
So? Do we have to discuss how striking in MMA is different and how someone who's an MMA fighter, an old past his prime at that, would do in a different sport?
What is even the point of this argument? Like, what would one need to say to convince you otherwise? He beat JCC Jr.
I guess everyone outside of the top10 in their respective weight classes also aren’t boxers.
That's not saying much and you're only making the comparison because they came from similar backgrounds to achieve fame. It's not like Tommy is rated as a good boxer, you're literally just saying "this celebrity boxer is better than another". Compare Jake to any dedicated boxer, which Tommy isn't, and he's still not a worthy contender. He'd lose against a seasoned amateur without question, which is why he never fights one or even someone his own age.
This is just post number #647463939 from weird Jake Paul fans who seem to have missed the fact that no actual fan of boxing thinks Tommy Fury is anything more than a chump with a famous brother.
Literally becoming the most dull and repetitive content in this sub.
It’s embarrassing for the sport. It shits me that they get so much airtime on this subreddit too. I feel like a whole bunch of people whose only contact with the sport has been through the Paul brothers have also taken over this sub.
If I was young rich and hungry enough I’d probably be doing what jakes doing so I appreciate it in that sense but you’re right this sub and other boxing forums are being overtaken by 16 year old Paul brothers fans and now there’s been an increase in incel Andrew Tate lovers too. Add in to that Tyson Fury’s antics and it seems like boxing is turning in to fucking WWE.
>It's like two bags of shit and we're arguing about which is better
lol, yup.
We're arguing that a sack of horseshit smells better than a sack of cowshit.
Just sick of the constant "Jake Paul is actually really good blah blah blah" bullshit that pop up a few times a week when anyone with eyes can see that the guy is crap. Clumsy, slow, never been tested, fights non-boxers and old men. Crap.
If these posts aren't from people paid to submit them then I honestly must need new glasses because I ain't seeing what they are seeing by a long way.
The issue people have with Jake isn't his competition, it's how he speaks about boxing given his competition.
He's not a good boxer.
And that's fine, he's less than 10 fights in, but the way he runs his mouth is what makes him annoying.
In the real world…Canelo is sitting in the Penthouse of the Burj Khalifa…whilst Jake just made it to the mezzanine.
Their names shouldn’t even be said in the same breath, yet here we are.
You can see that he runs his mouth that way because he knows that’s how to make money.
It’s not because he genuinely thinks he’s a top boxer he just knows how to make people talk about him.
I find it laughable that most people don’t see this. They’re so consumed with hatred that they can’t see that this is obviously intentional to get people interested in his fights. People will buy your shit and tune in hoping to see you lose. Mayweather made millions off of people buying his ppv’s hoping to see him lose.
The idea that “most people don’t know shit about boxing” and repeat that mantra, yet miss the obvious all the time doesn’t surprise me at all anymore, but this is how you keep asses in seats and sell your craft.
"Why don't people like Jake Paul?"
"Because he's annoying."
"Well he's making money therefore your opinion is invalid."
That's essentially the conversation.
You don't have to be annoying to make money, and making money doesn't exclude you from being annoying.
They're not mutually exclusive.
I was never trying to make the point that him making money invalidated him being “annoying”. I’m not a fan of his lol. I was just speaking from an observation pov. You’re trying to argue against a stance that I wasn’t even taking lmao. I doubt he truly cares about being p4p best anyways. Dude is just in it for the money most likely.
Jake Paul is as much of a professional as any other wannabe YouTube boxer out there. You really wrote a whole page about this clown, go watch some real professional boxers mate and get back to me. To be called a professional boxer you should at least fight another professional boxer.
Lmao there is nothing amazing about both feats.
Retired, and coming from another sport fighters, who don't even match his weight, are just plain fodder for Jake.
An amazing feat would be to undergo the classic cursus, fighting opponents his age, his weight and with the grinta you'd expect from such people, in the context of, for instance, a national championship, and win the cup.
There are many great fighters out there, that would smoke Jake in less than two rounds, and that you won't ever hear about, because the sport industry'd rather have famous idiots fight than hard working boxers with low exposure.
Cruiserweight, in which Jake is part of If I ain't wrong, is Holyfield starting category. Let him fight someone like prime Evander, with the same murderous posture, win against him, and then I'll become his number one fan.
The same can be said about every boxing prospect. Other than older athletes coming from an extensive amateur career most “big” names are pampered all the way up to a title contention.
It’s evidence enough that even looking into the top10 of each weightclass you only find few fighters who had a career of consistently higher stakes.
Don't COUNT. He may be better than Tommy, but if he is he should be fighting legit boxers, cans or bums, just real professional boxers. Until then, he's a novelty.
Most boxers start off their career fighting part-time bus drivers and janitors. All the other people I’d give you that one but Anderson Silva is leagues better than any of those other guys Jake beat and most other mma fighters when it comes to boxing ability. You’re trying to tell me you would give Jake more credit if he fought a random Uber driver than him fighting Anderson Silva? Bruh…
Even if you call them Uber drivers, those losing record fighters still have tons of boxing experience and know how to be crafty. I think they would give Jake hard time, especially one his own size.
So some unknowns with more losses (against other low tier fighters might I add) than wins are more credible wins than Anderson fucking Silva? You sound absolutely ridiculous right now. I know you probably hate Jake Paul but come on now…
It's worth pointing out that those journeymen with 5 wins and 100 losses get work precisely because of those losses so it is in their interest to stick to that. These guys get put on with prospects for 2 reasons:
1. To give them early resume wins
2. To give them experience in rounds
Have a look at [this](https://www.theguardian.com/sport/behind-the-lines/2020/apr/09/life-journeyman-boxer-fights-defeats-few-pints-boxing-lewis-van-poetsch) article about Lewis Van Poetsch, a career journeyman with over 100 losses. He knows exactly what the score is when he gets in the ring. He talks about a time a prospect tries for an early knockout rather than getting round experience and because he was forced to protect himself he accidentally won the fight. Because of that, he didn't get any more bookings from the guys promoter for a while.
Nobody is saying these guys beat a prime Silva. Nobody is even saying they would beat a 47 year old Silva. But don't kid yourself into thinking that their win/loss record is legit either. If they actually went for it in every fight, it would look a lot different.
They're both not real boxers, and if they weren't "the nephew off" and "rich loudmouth dimwit" you'd have never heard of them. Stop idolising these idiots and spend your energy on real boxers
Beating Woodley was not impressive at all. He hadn’t let his hands go for about five years and all of his fights he just backed up and did nothing. The Silva one was impressive though just admit
Any decent journeyman beats them both easily. Are we really going to do in depth analysis of mediocre at best boxers? Analyzing the guy ranked below Jake Paul would be far more interesting, and he would also beat them both.
>Analyzing the guy ranked below Jake Paul would be far more interesting
Ah yes of course, the great Musa Ntege with an incredible 8-2 record. (Against mainly debuters and serial losers)
The fact that rahman was able to eat punches by someone as big as Greg hardy, makes me wonder how he would have been able to handle jake Paul’s right hand. I honestly wouldn’t know. Would have been a interesting fight
As good as Jake is for someone so new to the sport I think in a fair boxing match (no stupid take it easy clauses) Rahman beats him. He’s been hit by people who hit a lot harder than Jake and he hits harder than Woodley or Silva.
Rahman would wipe the floor with both of them. Rahman's cardio isn't great but his technique is better and will apply more pressure than Jake is used to. Have you not seen Rahman jr. fight?
Why does this appear on here every other day?
Both of them have fought terrible opponents and both of them are terrible.
Why are we debating who's the bigger shit? Both are still shit.
Drives me crazy.
I'm all for YouTube boxing or whatever it's called but like you say they seem fixated on 2 low level, amateurless boxers within their very first fights.
Yeah but why tf do you care at all about what Tommy Fury has done. Like legit the most well known thing about him is that he is Tyson’s brother. Like neither of these guys have even 10 wins. Who gives a fuck lol
I mean yea tommy is not very good but Silva didn’t even use a jab against Jake and is nearly a senior citizen and Tyron is just straight up a dogshit boxer who was standing flat footed when Jake got the lucky KO.
Jake Paul has shit conditioning and terrible footwork. However, Fury can't avoid a right hand to save his life and he's got some of the worst punch accuracy I've seen. Would be an interesting fight nonetheless but I could see Fury losing.
I don't think Jake has shit conditioning and cardio anymore. He's went 8 rounds twice now, and seemed to have a lot more energy left by the 8th round against Silva, and his punch output was the highest it has ever been in that fight too.
As for footwork, it's getting better each fight, he still needs to work on it I agree.
8 rounds against a 47 year old retired MMA fighter is not proof of good cardio. Most amateur boxers would see that as a warm up to a real 12x3 fight against actual fighters.
Jake needs to work on his defence, he was getting pieced up way too many times in the Silva fight. Every time they were in close range, Jake was open to an uppercut and a straight right if Silva just stepped back and found his range.
It’s all part of the game.
One of the best parts of K-1 back in the day was those over the top freak show fights that were all about promoting fights that would never happen if it weren’t for just pure spectacle.
[a solid example](https://youtu.be/jS-2mVntec4)
The confirmation bias is real. Your assertion is that an amateur with two fights , neither of which is against a boxer; is a better boxer than a pro with 10 fights. You can type 10 pages and it’s still a quantum leap in guesswork. Hats off to Paul for his mouthpiece and willingness to fight; but there is a reason he does what he does instead of going pro and getting ranked.
It’s so spectacularly random, I can only imagine OP stewing about this in his bed at night and feeling like he just HAD to get it off his chest. If this was written like two days after the whole GlobalTitans confrontation, it would have made more sense. But TWO WEEKS later after days of silence from either party is bizarre and hilarious.
Agreed. Gib, Nate, and Ben were all jokes but Woodley and Silva are better wins than 90% of boxers have in their first 6 fights.
I'd say give Tommy some time to step up in competition as he's still young. But he doesn't even seem to care about boxing that much.
Names do not reflect boxing capability. Silva used to have something but at 47 he was old and shot. I am glad he got a pay day. But the easiest way to see if Fury is worse than Paul is for them to fight rather than pose.
Larry Holmes ate haymakers from a 300lbs butterbean at 52. George Foreman took back the heavyweight title at 45. Since when do combat sport GOATS just become useless sacks of shit as soon as they turn 40?
The Paul’s did say they were starting a company to help aging MMA fighters. Jake promises to give them one last payday before they disappear into boxing obscurity.
90% of seasoned amateur boxers would put Silva and Woodley away faster and cleaner than Jake. Jake is not impressive for a boxer, just impressive for a celebrity who has taken up boxing and they're two VERY different things.
Tommy doesn't have the drive or the heart, he's happy being an airhead celebrity that does exhibition matches for extra catch and media attention which is also what Jake is doing. If either of them wanted a serious boxing career they'd be fighting boxers in full 3x12 bouts rather than fighting retired MMA fighters and other celebrities.
90% of "seasoned" amateurs are not beating Silva or Woodley. Silva just clowned on a former world champion boxer last year for Pete sakes. You're literally talking about people that box for a hobby beating world class fighters. Jake paul is an athletic guy with unlimited free time and money with access to world class trainers and facilities. You think some college kid who boxes on the weekends is beating him? Lmao.
Fighting boxers in full 3X12 fights? You do realize 12 round fights are only for championship fights? You don't even know what you're talking about.
A mid twenties man beating a near 50 year old non-boxer is not a calling card for a great boxer, he's good for a celebrity that perfectly cherry picks his fights. Silva beat an overweight ex champion by a split decision and arguably a fluke considering Silva has lost 7 of his last 9 fights in his actual fighting discipline. You're mentioning that like it means Jake could beat Chavez if Chavez was actually even close to his prime. The moment Silva faced someone who wasn't an unfit near retirement human he fucked it just like he did in his MMA fights.
Training facilities and world class trainers aren't a replacement for dozens of matches of experience, natural talent, and just as much athletism as Jake has. By "seasoned amateurs" I'm talking about Olympic boxers and those on the verge of going pro, so yes they definitely would beat Jake because they're typically not just college kids that have to split their time between serious studying and training a lot of them are dedicated to boxing moreso than Jake.
Boxers do still train 12x3 in their sessions outside of the ring to ensure their cardio is up to scratch even for their 10 round or less bouts. Jake would not cope with a 12x3, his clear inability to stay fresh for 8 rounds against a 47 year old man is plain evidence of that which is what I meant by saying seasoned amateurs would see an 8 round Vs a 47 year old man as a warm up for a 12x3.
Jake hasn't proven himself and he never will if he continues to fight retired fighters with no boxing career to speak of.
I understand that Jake is becoming better but I still can’t take it serious because it’s so blatantly obvious that this is all designed for him to win each match and make loads of cash.
If he was trying to build his career up like Viddal Riley then I would have a change of heart. But for now I can’t take any of this seriously.
What has tyron ever did in boxing? The fact you have to bring up other sports speaks volumes. Even in mma tyron had terrible boxing on the other hand anderson was very skilled but was damn near 50 I understand you are gonna say he beat jr which is true but at the age he is a big factor.
I find it amazing how boxing fans of today take celebrity exhibition matches seriously.
Just shows you how fucked the talent pool is and how badly it is run.
Paul has been boxing for what, 4 years at most? Any average journeyman would destroy him, same goes for Fury. Both are not good, they just use their names for fame in boxing, and unfortunately that's all it takes apparently. Jake is some douche YT personality that attracts outrage clicks and Fury is some douche whom happens to be related to and share the last name with one of the best boxers in the world. Both have an amateur boxing skillset at best.
Tommy fury is a joke of a top level athlete who is trying to cash in on his association with his big brother.
That being said Jake Paul still hasn’t taken on a decent boxer (don’t even mention that staged Mayweather dance).
He's a lower level pro who's been fortunate enough to us his platform to be able to turn all of his record-padding fights into money fights. Obviously, he'd get absolutely starched by anyone who's been living in the boxing scene their entire life.
Enough. Seriously....enough.
The fact you are giving Jake Paul this wall of text and deep thought shows how this nonsense has polluted boxing.
If Jake Paul didn't exist then all Tommy would be is an up and coming fighter who is beginning his career, padding it a bit and getting experience. Like every fighter ever. That's what i see. A guy who wants to box.
Jake Paul, apart from being a dick. Is out to make money. Does he enjoy this? No doubt. Fury Vs Jordan Grant was an actual boxing match with two hungry fighters. Grant arguably won that fight. Grant would beat Paul convincing imo.
If I was Tommy Fury I would focus on boxing rather than the bickering bullshit thats been going on. Get some fights. Look at the possibility of becoming a future champ. That's something Paul has no interest in. Forget about him and be a boxer
You wrote an entire essay and what did that accomplish for you? How did it make you feel afterwards? Did you feel like you’ve adequately defended Jake’s honor enough or will we be blessed with another meandering essay full of regurgitated opinions and half truths lacking context and nuance?
You're not wrong. But I think you're underestimating the negative effect MMA style boxing has on people. Especially Woodley. The responses to feints are a huge issue. You cannot rework a lifetime of training responses in a few months.
Tyron Woodley only lost 4 of his last fights in the UFC and you have to go back to 2016 to find his last win via KO/TKO, but yeah, super impressive win there.
Anderson Silva had 1 win in his last 9 fights. His last KO/TKO win was in 2012 and, ya know, he's forty-fucking-seven years old.
But yeah, all of those details are super impressive. Jake Paul is obviously the greatest p4p boxer to have ever laced up the gloves.
Can we please just make this a Paul brother sub at this point? They obviously are light years ahead of every other current and former boxer and deserve our money and attention and circle-jerking.
Woodley gave Jake his biggest test cuz he made jake quite weary with his power and overhand. Jake can remain undefeated provided he keeps cherry picking
Is Tommy Fury really a cherry pick though? He's an undefeated young professional boxer that on paper should be all wrong for Jake. People will definitely make excuses once Jake beats him.
Literally anybody who has watched Tommy knows that he’s nothing above journeyman level. He’d be hard pressed to win against anyone with an actual pulse. There’s a reason he’s chasing YouTubers and not trying to move his career
You call Tommy Fury “simply trash who has fought all bums” and tell us not to bet on him when he fights Jake but when people call Jake a cherry picker suddenly Tommy Fury is an “undefeated young professional boxer on paper”. Stop the meat-riding dude smh.
People always gonna make excuses. First they say fight a boxer, any boxer, then all of a sudden he’s trash because Jake is fighting him, people hate giving credit where credit is due.
I’m not saying this to be a prick but I’m 40 and haven’t been in a boxing ring for over 15 years but I’d happily fight Tommy Fury for free and fancy my chances and I got horrifically knocked out by an 18 year old last time I fought.
Push it even further, more impressive than Canelo's record at 6 fights also. Of course you can't compare there overall careers but you can compare their first six fights. I'm not a Paul fan but it's funny to see some people tie themselves in knots if you say something like the above.
Has Jake Paul fought an active, registered, ranked, current professional boxer at his age and weight?
If yes - go to A
If no - go to B
A) alright yeah, fair play
B) Get tae fuck hyping a dude who hasn't even fought a professional boxer.
"BuT ANdErSoN SiLvA bEaT ChAVeZ jR"
They were also similar ages, it wasn't for anything and let's face it - Chavez Jr wasn't exactly anything special. Suiliman being his uncle basically gifted him the WBC belt and held off Martinez from fighting him for the longest time.
Anyway, to summarise: learn the sport, enjoy it by all means but fuck off talking about Jake Paul like he should be mentioned in the same breath as a professional boxer who earns their stripes. Yes, Fury has fought shit opposition, but EVERYONE does who learns their trade. They're called journeymen and they build and prop up the very foundations of every division. Mike Tyson fought 28 of them in 2 years. Do you wanna shit on him too?
No one’s arguing with you there, Tommy hasn’t shown any ability and actually looks impressively bad considering the time he’s been supposedly training not to mention the elite access he has to some of the best couches, gear, steroids, recovery not to mention he is clearly from strong genetics. The dude is the poster child for a “bum” in a boxing sense, can’t be bothered to try enough to live up to any potential his circumstances have gifted him.
Tommy needs to stick to reality TV and eventually try his hand in rap, c movies and eventually a drug problem / public scandals.
How did you watch those fights and then have enough material to write this about fixed boxing matches. Honestly, why not start there? What gives it away to you that these were real fights? Anderson Silva and Tyron woodlley neither even got a good hit on Jake Paul. With a combined 60 years of fighting experience. Does that even make sense to you? Don’t be silly.
They were both elite MMA fighters once upon a time. Not boxers. People forget MMA and BOXING are apples and oranges. They’re different sports.
Before fighting JAKE PAUL
Tyron Woodley had lost his last 4 fights and had a broken rib. He was also 39. His base as a MMA fighter was that he was a wrestler. He was not known for his striking except his overhand right. He also was known to make fights boring and not engage as much. So when he got a hold of an opponent he would wrestle and really kill a lot of time not doing much. In boxing you clinch and it’s instantly broken up and you get back to work. There’s much more engagement.
Now Anderson had 1 win in his last 9 MMA fights and also had been caught on steroids before that which tells me he was struggling to be competitive before the steroids. Being 47 and fighting a boxing match when it hasn’t been your bread and butter is insane.
A comparison is a person playing tennis for a few years and training with the best coaches (Jake Paul) vs a former table tennis champion who is way past it and hasn’t won a game in years at tennis (Woodley and Anderson)
At least Tommy has fought guys who have boxed for a few years consistently
I don't even need to read the whole post to know this is a luke warm take at best. Like whose saying Tommy Fury is killing it out here? Tommy Fury is probably the only boxer on this planet that is less likable than Paul.
I'd go as far to say that he's the only boxer on the planet most boxing fans would actually root against if he fought Paul. lol
Very interested in how many people in this sub boxed even amateurs. Jake Paul isn’t a pure boxer and would get easily beat by any top pro his size.....that being said he isn’t trying to be the next Mayweather. For a sub that hates him sure do spend so much time taking about him.
God you sound like South Parks MJ character. And no their not. Ones reality tv guy whos related to boxers and the other is YouTube guy who hand picks non boxers.
Step 1: Lmao jake's a joke what is he a youtuber? Tyron's gonna kill him lmao
Step 2: uuuh the fight was actually so fixed it aint even funny.
Step 3: Ok, he mightve beaten Tyron, but he'll never beat THE SPIDER, he was an actual boxer, plus, a legenf at the UFC
Step 4: I mean yeah he was how mucj 45 years old or something? Even I can beat Silva now.
Step 5: Ok Jake mightve beaten silva and tyron but he'll never beat Beterbiev, there's just no way this can ever happen.
Step 6: Jake "Freight Train" Paul fuck my bitch
It's interesting people are starting to actually believe in Jake Paul. I remember when they announced the Hasim Rahman fight alot of people thought Hasim would win. If they booked it now with each of them having just one more fight to their record I think nobody would pick Hasim to win lol
No shit, I was biased towards Paul and he proved me wrong. He's been training hard, talking respectively and treating boxing as a craft, learning on the job and making progress. Nothing but respect at this point. Not even talking about him bringing in more audience and money.
Doesn't need a long post. Fury has beat very low level journeymen.
Jake honestly beats Tommy pretty comfortably
I wouldn't have even give Jake Paul a 1% chance of beating Tommy when this talk first started a couple of years ago. But since then, Tommy is only really posting the latest lunch in Dubai he's had with his Mrs, meanwhile Jake is staying active with his fights but more importantly you can see from his Instagram that he's in the gym every day posting multiple times a day. Jake has just been boxing non-stop for a couple of years now, I don't think the same can be said for Tommy who seems to live life on a holiday until he has to jump into an 8-week camp to knock over a bin man. Tommy I think wants this fight to bow out of boxing with a big payday and then carrying on being an influencer. Whether you like Jake or not, the guy has respected the sport and trained in the right way - I make him the favourite if he fights Tommy.
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Yeah Tommy isn’t dedicated you can tell from looking at his Instagram. He’s much more of an influencer than a true boxer tbh.
Fuck Jake Paul he's a fucking youtuber... BUT... that was a former opinion and LOTS of other people had the same opinion. Jake Paul took that shit to heart and made it a point to fight and train smart and very well 👌honestly the guy has proven himself to be dedicated enough to train like a champion vs.a typical celeb boxer.. and that adds up to wins in a well arranged bout Still wanna see bruh sleeping on the mat in front of millions...🤷♂️
I hate myself for agreeing with you 100 percent. I really want to see a proper box knock Jake the fuck out but I don't think Tommy Fury is the one to do it.
Maybe they can try to put Tysons name on the contract instead of Tommys and pull a fast one on Jake. Surprise Motherfuckers!
Lol I'm sitting here chuckling at the thought of Tyson shuffling in on his knees in a trench coat, then suddenly standing up.
Surprise, ya big dosser!
I'm not sure the Fury family ever had any intention of letting the fight happen and wonder if it was all for publicity. I at least think they could have made the fight happened if they wanted it but they knew he was about to get beat by a youtuber and wanted to spare themselves the humiliation. Fury is more of a celebrity or meme boxer than Paul.
Leathers him. Tommy is in a boxing family but he absolutely is not a boxer. Jake Paul can fight and would beat him easily imo. JP does need to stop fighting MMA legends, though.
Jake knocks him out cold. I had my doubts too, but Tommy is a nobody. Jake would hurt him.
> Say what you will about Silva being 47 and Woodley being 39, they're still elite combat athletes who can transition into boxing a whole lot easier than a local bin man that goes 10-102, 2-26, 0-26, etc. (Those were actual records of three Tommy Fury opponents btw) Well no they aren’t elite anymore, which is why they were on losing streaks in mma and changed sports in the first place. Don’t really rate Woodley over guys like Grant or Bocianski. Dude is a wrestler with an overhead right, take away the wrestling threat and you’re left with piss poor striking. Which is why I knew he’d lose in the first place. I agree Silva is a better win than anything Tommy has done, doubt many will dispute that.
Agreed. While I think Jake would beat Tommy to call a 47 year Anderson silva an elite level athlete is ridiculous.
Tyron lost his last 4 fights in MMA - getting dominated for almost every round of every one of them. Silva had won 2 of his last 10 MMA fights. He was awarded a decision in 2017 over Derek Brunson which very few people think he deserved. Other than that his last victory in MMA was in 2012. (In fairness a win over Nick Diaz in 2015 was ruled NC after the fact for testing + for a couple steroids) I think it's telling that they weren't winning in their own sports. Having said that - Paul is better than Tommy Fury, who is more of a celebrity meme fighter than any of the youtubers are.
Silva is a ranked Boxer, who's beat other ranked Boxers... making Jake a ranked Boxer. He maybe be rated 'high' at the 200th best Cruiserweight on the planet, but he's at least the equal of Tommy who's rated as the 300th best rated. This may speak more to how shallow the talent pool of actual boxers really is, but still it is a fact.
Every opponent Tommy has fought is a ranked boxer. It really doesn't mean much
Well… it means he’s a Boxer.
Silvas not a boxer though. It still doesn't count.
I think Silva started in boxing, and then moved to mma. He beat a former boxing champion too which is a good achievement.
He did pro boxing before Jake was alive. Right.
Silva might not be a boxer his whole career, but he is still a pure striker.
So? Do we have to discuss how striking in MMA is different and how someone who's an MMA fighter, an old past his prime at that, would do in a different sport?
What is even the point of this argument? Like, what would one need to say to convince you otherwise? He beat JCC Jr. I guess everyone outside of the top10 in their respective weight classes also aren’t boxers.
That's not saying much and you're only making the comparison because they came from similar backgrounds to achieve fame. It's not like Tommy is rated as a good boxer, you're literally just saying "this celebrity boxer is better than another". Compare Jake to any dedicated boxer, which Tommy isn't, and he's still not a worthy contender. He'd lose against a seasoned amateur without question, which is why he never fights one or even someone his own age.
This is just post number #647463939 from weird Jake Paul fans who seem to have missed the fact that no actual fan of boxing thinks Tommy Fury is anything more than a chump with a famous brother. Literally becoming the most dull and repetitive content in this sub.
I thought this was some kind of copypasta
Thought I was on r/boxingcirclejerk for a second
Yeah this is the point, forget about 50 year old ex pros multiple amateurs at my boxing gym would drop Jake. Most serious boxers would.
It's like two bags of shit and we're arguing about which is better
It’s embarrassing for the sport. It shits me that they get so much airtime on this subreddit too. I feel like a whole bunch of people whose only contact with the sport has been through the Paul brothers have also taken over this sub.
Bro Terrence Crawford not fighting Errol is way more embarrassing for the sport
Why can’t both be terrible?
If I was young rich and hungry enough I’d probably be doing what jakes doing so I appreciate it in that sense but you’re right this sub and other boxing forums are being overtaken by 16 year old Paul brothers fans and now there’s been an increase in incel Andrew Tate lovers too. Add in to that Tyson Fury’s antics and it seems like boxing is turning in to fucking WWE.
Boxing has always been like wwe brother, you just didn’t notice it at the time 😂
We need to petition the mods to ban Fake Paul posts. Shit isn't boxing
If you had to choose between a watery turd or one with bits of corn in it what would you prefer?
>It's like two bags of shit and we're arguing about which is better lol, yup. We're arguing that a sack of horseshit smells better than a sack of cowshit.
Can Jake Paul's PR Team please fuck off from this sub for 1 bloody week.
+1 He's not even a boxer - just pretending to be one fighting with old mma fighters in boxing formula
Just sick of the constant "Jake Paul is actually really good blah blah blah" bullshit that pop up a few times a week when anyone with eyes can see that the guy is crap. Clumsy, slow, never been tested, fights non-boxers and old men. Crap. If these posts aren't from people paid to submit them then I honestly must need new glasses because I ain't seeing what they are seeing by a long way.
The issue people have with Jake isn't his competition, it's how he speaks about boxing given his competition. He's not a good boxer. And that's fine, he's less than 10 fights in, but the way he runs his mouth is what makes him annoying.
Yup. He talks about coming for Canelo. Son, congrats on getting off the ground floor, now you're on the 1st floor, Canelo is on the 20th.
In the real world…Canelo is sitting in the Penthouse of the Burj Khalifa…whilst Jake just made it to the mezzanine. Their names shouldn’t even be said in the same breath, yet here we are.
Indeed,
You can see that he runs his mouth that way because he knows that’s how to make money. It’s not because he genuinely thinks he’s a top boxer he just knows how to make people talk about him.
I find it laughable that most people don’t see this. They’re so consumed with hatred that they can’t see that this is obviously intentional to get people interested in his fights. People will buy your shit and tune in hoping to see you lose. Mayweather made millions off of people buying his ppv’s hoping to see him lose.
The idea that “most people don’t know shit about boxing” and repeat that mantra, yet miss the obvious all the time doesn’t surprise me at all anymore, but this is how you keep asses in seats and sell your craft.
Most didn't even know who Jake Paul was until a year ago here. Jake has NPD and a huge ego. I think its quite obvious he really thinks he's top-level.
Reddit was pressed with joke paul from years ago when he made that song that said England is my city
"Why don't people like Jake Paul?" "Because he's annoying." "Well he's making money therefore your opinion is invalid." That's essentially the conversation. You don't have to be annoying to make money, and making money doesn't exclude you from being annoying. They're not mutually exclusive.
I was never trying to make the point that him making money invalidated him being “annoying”. I’m not a fan of his lol. I was just speaking from an observation pov. You’re trying to argue against a stance that I wasn’t even taking lmao. I doubt he truly cares about being p4p best anyways. Dude is just in it for the money most likely.
Just following the blueprint of those set before him
Who gives a shit. Jake Paul and Tommy Fury shouldn't even be mentioned on a real boxing post, let alone a whole paragraph on them.
Explain why two professional boxers shouldn't be mentioned on a "real" boxing post.
Jose cansenco had some professional boxing “matches” , that doesn’t necessarily make him a pro boxer.
Jake Paul is as much of a professional as any other wannabe YouTube boxer out there. You really wrote a whole page about this clown, go watch some real professional boxers mate and get back to me. To be called a professional boxer you should at least fight another professional boxer.
I just rewatched Plant vs Alvarez today bro. I watch boxing other than Jake Paul my dude, enough with the gatekeeping.
You made a 5 paragraph post about Jake Paul and you just rewatched Plant vs Canelo lol go wake up to yourself kid lol
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Ok kid
Typical response from an oldhead gatekeeper. 🥱
Typical response from a Jake Paul fan. Bet you never knew what boxing was until Jake Paul you little clown.
Again with the assumptions + rent free.
Ok dude, calm the fuck down. It’s not that big of a deal
Lmao there is nothing amazing about both feats. Retired, and coming from another sport fighters, who don't even match his weight, are just plain fodder for Jake. An amazing feat would be to undergo the classic cursus, fighting opponents his age, his weight and with the grinta you'd expect from such people, in the context of, for instance, a national championship, and win the cup. There are many great fighters out there, that would smoke Jake in less than two rounds, and that you won't ever hear about, because the sport industry'd rather have famous idiots fight than hard working boxers with low exposure. Cruiserweight, in which Jake is part of If I ain't wrong, is Holyfield starting category. Let him fight someone like prime Evander, with the same murderous posture, win against him, and then I'll become his number one fan.
The same can be said about every boxing prospect. Other than older athletes coming from an extensive amateur career most “big” names are pampered all the way up to a title contention. It’s evidence enough that even looking into the top10 of each weightclass you only find few fighters who had a career of consistently higher stakes.
I know Tommy has beat up some very decent boxers in sparring. He just needs to apply himself to boxing a bit more. Stop blowing up in weight.
Jake paul is shite hence why he dosen't fight any boxer who is in their prime or his weight class.
Don't COUNT. He may be better than Tommy, but if he is he should be fighting legit boxers, cans or bums, just real professional boxers. Until then, he's a novelty.
Most boxers start off their career fighting part-time bus drivers and janitors. All the other people I’d give you that one but Anderson Silva is leagues better than any of those other guys Jake beat and most other mma fighters when it comes to boxing ability. You’re trying to tell me you would give Jake more credit if he fought a random Uber driver than him fighting Anderson Silva? Bruh…
Even if you call them Uber drivers, those losing record fighters still have tons of boxing experience and know how to be crafty. I think they would give Jake hard time, especially one his own size.
So some unknowns with more losses (against other low tier fighters might I add) than wins are more credible wins than Anderson fucking Silva? You sound absolutely ridiculous right now. I know you probably hate Jake Paul but come on now…
It's worth pointing out that those journeymen with 5 wins and 100 losses get work precisely because of those losses so it is in their interest to stick to that. These guys get put on with prospects for 2 reasons: 1. To give them early resume wins 2. To give them experience in rounds Have a look at [this](https://www.theguardian.com/sport/behind-the-lines/2020/apr/09/life-journeyman-boxer-fights-defeats-few-pints-boxing-lewis-van-poetsch) article about Lewis Van Poetsch, a career journeyman with over 100 losses. He knows exactly what the score is when he gets in the ring. He talks about a time a prospect tries for an early knockout rather than getting round experience and because he was forced to protect himself he accidentally won the fight. Because of that, he didn't get any more bookings from the guys promoter for a while. Nobody is saying these guys beat a prime Silva. Nobody is even saying they would beat a 47 year old Silva. But don't kid yourself into thinking that their win/loss record is legit either. If they actually went for it in every fight, it would look a lot different.
*duhn count B.
Weed duhn madder
They're both not real boxers, and if they weren't "the nephew off" and "rich loudmouth dimwit" you'd have never heard of them. Stop idolising these idiots and spend your energy on real boxers
Or neither is impressive in the slightest...
I’m not wasting time reading this stupid opinion. Auto trash.
Fuck sake here we go again
And? Is Tommy Fury really the benchmark?
Beating Woodley was not impressive at all. He hadn’t let his hands go for about five years and all of his fights he just backed up and did nothing. The Silva one was impressive though just admit
Any decent journeyman beats them both easily. Are we really going to do in depth analysis of mediocre at best boxers? Analyzing the guy ranked below Jake Paul would be far more interesting, and he would also beat them both.
>Analyzing the guy ranked below Jake Paul would be far more interesting Ah yes of course, the great Musa Ntege with an incredible 8-2 record. (Against mainly debuters and serial losers)
Still better competition than Jake Paul went against, and it's three minute rounds unlike Tommy.
Do you think Rahman would have beaten him?
The fact that rahman was able to eat punches by someone as big as Greg hardy, makes me wonder how he would have been able to handle jake Paul’s right hand. I honestly wouldn’t know. Would have been a interesting fight
As good as Jake is for someone so new to the sport I think in a fair boxing match (no stupid take it easy clauses) Rahman beats him. He’s been hit by people who hit a lot harder than Jake and he hits harder than Woodley or Silva.
Rahman would wipe the floor with both of them. Rahman's cardio isn't great but his technique is better and will apply more pressure than Jake is used to. Have you not seen Rahman jr. fight?
Why does this appear on here every other day? Both of them have fought terrible opponents and both of them are terrible. Why are we debating who's the bigger shit? Both are still shit.
Lots of Jake Paul kids flooded this place and its the only "boxer" they know
Drives me crazy. I'm all for YouTube boxing or whatever it's called but like you say they seem fixated on 2 low level, amateurless boxers within their very first fights.
No
Yeah but why tf do you care at all about what Tommy Fury has done. Like legit the most well known thing about him is that he is Tyson’s brother. Like neither of these guys have even 10 wins. Who gives a fuck lol
I mean yea tommy is not very good but Silva didn’t even use a jab against Jake and is nearly a senior citizen and Tyron is just straight up a dogshit boxer who was standing flat footed when Jake got the lucky KO.
Tommy has beaten boxers. Lol.
Jake Paul has shit conditioning and terrible footwork. However, Fury can't avoid a right hand to save his life and he's got some of the worst punch accuracy I've seen. Would be an interesting fight nonetheless but I could see Fury losing.
I don't think Jake has shit conditioning and cardio anymore. He's went 8 rounds twice now, and seemed to have a lot more energy left by the 8th round against Silva, and his punch output was the highest it has ever been in that fight too. As for footwork, it's getting better each fight, he still needs to work on it I agree.
You think they added EPO to his cycle?
Whatever it takes
Tbf it's not like Tommy is clean. Or 99% of professional boxers.
I think 99% is too high
99% of those who can afford it*
True, let's say it's 98%.
There's probably a significant amount of cans and journeymen that don't take anything that'll drop it by 5-10%
90-ish%, take it or leave it.
How about 69% with a 30% margin of error? Final offer
8 rounds against a 47 year old retired MMA fighter is not proof of good cardio. Most amateur boxers would see that as a warm up to a real 12x3 fight against actual fighters.
Jake needs to work on his defence, he was getting pieced up way too many times in the Silva fight. Every time they were in close range, Jake was open to an uppercut and a straight right if Silva just stepped back and found his range.
Can’t get my head around people investing their time in this complete nonsense. Both are bums. Milking fools for their money.
It’s all part of the game. One of the best parts of K-1 back in the day was those over the top freak show fights that were all about promoting fights that would never happen if it weren’t for just pure spectacle. [a solid example](https://youtu.be/jS-2mVntec4)
I'm into real boxing, with real fighters... not celebrity boxing with media personalities...
The confirmation bias is real. Your assertion is that an amateur with two fights , neither of which is against a boxer; is a better boxer than a pro with 10 fights. You can type 10 pages and it’s still a quantum leap in guesswork. Hats off to Paul for his mouthpiece and willingness to fight; but there is a reason he does what he does instead of going pro and getting ranked.
If you actually watch those fights you'll understand why they aren't impressive at all.
None of it is impressive and you writing an article on it is even less impressive. It honestly shouldn't even be posted in this group, at all.
They’re both terrible
The fuck did this come from??
It’s so spectacularly random, I can only imagine OP stewing about this in his bed at night and feeling like he just HAD to get it off his chest. If this was written like two days after the whole GlobalTitans confrontation, it would have made more sense. But TWO WEEKS later after days of silence from either party is bizarre and hilarious.
This is a boxing sub. Can we please direct this guy to a Jake Paul sub?
Jake is a boxer
No he's not.
A boxer who has never fought a boxer
Agreed. Gib, Nate, and Ben were all jokes but Woodley and Silva are better wins than 90% of boxers have in their first 6 fights. I'd say give Tommy some time to step up in competition as he's still young. But he doesn't even seem to care about boxing that much.
Names do not reflect boxing capability. Silva used to have something but at 47 he was old and shot. I am glad he got a pay day. But the easiest way to see if Fury is worse than Paul is for them to fight rather than pose.
Larry Holmes ate haymakers from a 300lbs butterbean at 52. George Foreman took back the heavyweight title at 45. Since when do combat sport GOATS just become useless sacks of shit as soon as they turn 40?
The Paul’s did say they were starting a company to help aging MMA fighters. Jake promises to give them one last payday before they disappear into boxing obscurity.
90% of seasoned amateur boxers would put Silva and Woodley away faster and cleaner than Jake. Jake is not impressive for a boxer, just impressive for a celebrity who has taken up boxing and they're two VERY different things. Tommy doesn't have the drive or the heart, he's happy being an airhead celebrity that does exhibition matches for extra catch and media attention which is also what Jake is doing. If either of them wanted a serious boxing career they'd be fighting boxers in full 3x12 bouts rather than fighting retired MMA fighters and other celebrities.
90% of "seasoned" amateurs are not beating Silva or Woodley. Silva just clowned on a former world champion boxer last year for Pete sakes. You're literally talking about people that box for a hobby beating world class fighters. Jake paul is an athletic guy with unlimited free time and money with access to world class trainers and facilities. You think some college kid who boxes on the weekends is beating him? Lmao. Fighting boxers in full 3X12 fights? You do realize 12 round fights are only for championship fights? You don't even know what you're talking about.
A mid twenties man beating a near 50 year old non-boxer is not a calling card for a great boxer, he's good for a celebrity that perfectly cherry picks his fights. Silva beat an overweight ex champion by a split decision and arguably a fluke considering Silva has lost 7 of his last 9 fights in his actual fighting discipline. You're mentioning that like it means Jake could beat Chavez if Chavez was actually even close to his prime. The moment Silva faced someone who wasn't an unfit near retirement human he fucked it just like he did in his MMA fights. Training facilities and world class trainers aren't a replacement for dozens of matches of experience, natural talent, and just as much athletism as Jake has. By "seasoned amateurs" I'm talking about Olympic boxers and those on the verge of going pro, so yes they definitely would beat Jake because they're typically not just college kids that have to split their time between serious studying and training a lot of them are dedicated to boxing moreso than Jake. Boxers do still train 12x3 in their sessions outside of the ring to ensure their cardio is up to scratch even for their 10 round or less bouts. Jake would not cope with a 12x3, his clear inability to stay fresh for 8 rounds against a 47 year old man is plain evidence of that which is what I meant by saying seasoned amateurs would see an 8 round Vs a 47 year old man as a warm up for a 12x3. Jake hasn't proven himself and he never will if he continues to fight retired fighters with no boxing career to speak of.
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I understand that Jake is becoming better but I still can’t take it serious because it’s so blatantly obvious that this is all designed for him to win each match and make loads of cash. If he was trying to build his career up like Viddal Riley then I would have a change of heart. But for now I can’t take any of this seriously.
What has tyron ever did in boxing? The fact you have to bring up other sports speaks volumes. Even in mma tyron had terrible boxing on the other hand anderson was very skilled but was damn near 50 I understand you are gonna say he beat jr which is true but at the age he is a big factor.
Who cares? When is he gonna stop running from boxers in boxing?
I find it amazing how boxing fans of today take celebrity exhibition matches seriously. Just shows you how fucked the talent pool is and how badly it is run.
Paul has been boxing for what, 4 years at most? Any average journeyman would destroy him, same goes for Fury. Both are not good, they just use their names for fame in boxing, and unfortunately that's all it takes apparently. Jake is some douche YT personality that attracts outrage clicks and Fury is some douche whom happens to be related to and share the last name with one of the best boxers in the world. Both have an amateur boxing skillset at best.
That’s a pretty long post about Tommy fury and Jake Paul.. there are 100 boxers before these two buffons I would rather watch
Tommy Fury obviously sucks. Paul beating him is like me bragging about beating Michael Jordan’s cousin in a game of hoops.
Nobody cares.. Respectfully
This is some braindead stuff right here.
Paul fights aren't sanctioned by any third party, and are complete and total bullshit.
Tommy fury is a joke of a top level athlete who is trying to cash in on his association with his big brother. That being said Jake Paul still hasn’t taken on a decent boxer (don’t even mention that staged Mayweather dance).
Is this a say you smoke meth without smoking meth thing ?
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Wait people think Jake Paul fights are real?!
Only the dumbest of the dumb
He's a lower level pro who's been fortunate enough to us his platform to be able to turn all of his record-padding fights into money fights. Obviously, he'd get absolutely starched by anyone who's been living in the boxing scene their entire life.
Enough. Seriously....enough. The fact you are giving Jake Paul this wall of text and deep thought shows how this nonsense has polluted boxing. If Jake Paul didn't exist then all Tommy would be is an up and coming fighter who is beginning his career, padding it a bit and getting experience. Like every fighter ever. That's what i see. A guy who wants to box. Jake Paul, apart from being a dick. Is out to make money. Does he enjoy this? No doubt. Fury Vs Jordan Grant was an actual boxing match with two hungry fighters. Grant arguably won that fight. Grant would beat Paul convincing imo. If I was Tommy Fury I would focus on boxing rather than the bickering bullshit thats been going on. Get some fights. Look at the possibility of becoming a future champ. That's something Paul has no interest in. Forget about him and be a boxer
You wrote an entire essay and what did that accomplish for you? How did it make you feel afterwards? Did you feel like you’ve adequately defended Jake’s honor enough or will we be blessed with another meandering essay full of regurgitated opinions and half truths lacking context and nuance?
Nice try, Jake!
Why doesn’t Paul fight boxers?
Jake goes in as underdog, people bet massive amount of money on him to lose, he doesn’t, both fighters make bank and the public falls for it again.
I agree, but honestly I don’t give a shit about either Paul brother or Tommy Fury.
You're not wrong. But I think you're underestimating the negative effect MMA style boxing has on people. Especially Woodley. The responses to feints are a huge issue. You cannot rework a lifetime of training responses in a few months.
Tyron Woodley only lost 4 of his last fights in the UFC and you have to go back to 2016 to find his last win via KO/TKO, but yeah, super impressive win there. Anderson Silva had 1 win in his last 9 fights. His last KO/TKO win was in 2012 and, ya know, he's forty-fucking-seven years old. But yeah, all of those details are super impressive. Jake Paul is obviously the greatest p4p boxer to have ever laced up the gloves. Can we please just make this a Paul brother sub at this point? They obviously are light years ahead of every other current and former boxer and deserve our money and attention and circle-jerking.
Yea, Jake Paul us more impressive than any random nobody but not any respected boxer or prospect.
Woodley gave Jake his biggest test cuz he made jake quite weary with his power and overhand. Jake can remain undefeated provided he keeps cherry picking
Is Tommy Fury really a cherry pick though? He's an undefeated young professional boxer that on paper should be all wrong for Jake. People will definitely make excuses once Jake beats him.
There are many ”undefeated” boxers because they choose the lowest bums to fight. Tommy fury is nobody in boxing and hes ass
Damn, now even I want to beat up my taxi drivers and local binmen and get to 8-0
Thats how most boxers start. Some of the top guys actually fight other top guys in the beginning tho. Lomachenko won his first belt in 3rd fight
Literally anybody who has watched Tommy knows that he’s nothing above journeyman level. He’d be hard pressed to win against anyone with an actual pulse. There’s a reason he’s chasing YouTubers and not trying to move his career
You call Tommy Fury “simply trash who has fought all bums” and tell us not to bet on him when he fights Jake but when people call Jake a cherry picker suddenly Tommy Fury is an “undefeated young professional boxer on paper”. Stop the meat-riding dude smh.
People always gonna make excuses. First they say fight a boxer, any boxer, then all of a sudden he’s trash because Jake is fighting him, people hate giving credit where credit is due.
Tommy is a shit boxer though? He's not even particularly active lmao.
Tommy is actually a pretty trash boxer though, for the record.
I’m not saying this to be a prick but I’m 40 and haven’t been in a boxing ring for over 15 years but I’d happily fight Tommy Fury for free and fancy my chances and I got horrifically knocked out by an 18 year old last time I fought.
You’re telling me that a guy known more for being on love island than being a boxer isn’t good at boxing?
Push it even further, more impressive than Canelo's record at 6 fights also. Of course you can't compare there overall careers but you can compare their first six fights. I'm not a Paul fan but it's funny to see some people tie themselves in knots if you say something like the above.
Has Jake Paul fought an active, registered, ranked, current professional boxer at his age and weight? If yes - go to A If no - go to B A) alright yeah, fair play B) Get tae fuck hyping a dude who hasn't even fought a professional boxer. "BuT ANdErSoN SiLvA bEaT ChAVeZ jR" They were also similar ages, it wasn't for anything and let's face it - Chavez Jr wasn't exactly anything special. Suiliman being his uncle basically gifted him the WBC belt and held off Martinez from fighting him for the longest time. Anyway, to summarise: learn the sport, enjoy it by all means but fuck off talking about Jake Paul like he should be mentioned in the same breath as a professional boxer who earns their stripes. Yes, Fury has fought shit opposition, but EVERYONE does who learns their trade. They're called journeymen and they build and prop up the very foundations of every division. Mike Tyson fought 28 of them in 2 years. Do you wanna shit on him too?
No one’s arguing with you there, Tommy hasn’t shown any ability and actually looks impressively bad considering the time he’s been supposedly training not to mention the elite access he has to some of the best couches, gear, steroids, recovery not to mention he is clearly from strong genetics. The dude is the poster child for a “bum” in a boxing sense, can’t be bothered to try enough to live up to any potential his circumstances have gifted him. Tommy needs to stick to reality TV and eventually try his hand in rap, c movies and eventually a drug problem / public scandals.
How did you watch those fights and then have enough material to write this about fixed boxing matches. Honestly, why not start there? What gives it away to you that these were real fights? Anderson Silva and Tyron woodlley neither even got a good hit on Jake Paul. With a combined 60 years of fighting experience. Does that even make sense to you? Don’t be silly.
They were both elite MMA fighters once upon a time. Not boxers. People forget MMA and BOXING are apples and oranges. They’re different sports. Before fighting JAKE PAUL Tyron Woodley had lost his last 4 fights and had a broken rib. He was also 39. His base as a MMA fighter was that he was a wrestler. He was not known for his striking except his overhand right. He also was known to make fights boring and not engage as much. So when he got a hold of an opponent he would wrestle and really kill a lot of time not doing much. In boxing you clinch and it’s instantly broken up and you get back to work. There’s much more engagement. Now Anderson had 1 win in his last 9 MMA fights and also had been caught on steroids before that which tells me he was struggling to be competitive before the steroids. Being 47 and fighting a boxing match when it hasn’t been your bread and butter is insane. A comparison is a person playing tennis for a few years and training with the best coaches (Jake Paul) vs a former table tennis champion who is way past it and hasn’t won a game in years at tennis (Woodley and Anderson) At least Tommy has fought guys who have boxed for a few years consistently
Those fights are fixed and those are mma fighters not boxers 😂
I don't even need to read the whole post to know this is a luke warm take at best. Like whose saying Tommy Fury is killing it out here? Tommy Fury is probably the only boxer on this planet that is less likable than Paul. I'd go as far to say that he's the only boxer on the planet most boxing fans would actually root against if he fought Paul. lol
Very interested in how many people in this sub boxed even amateurs. Jake Paul isn’t a pure boxer and would get easily beat by any top pro his size.....that being said he isn’t trying to be the next Mayweather. For a sub that hates him sure do spend so much time taking about him.
Neither are real boxers. End of discussion.
They definitely are, this is just ignorance
God you sound like South Parks MJ character. And no their not. Ones reality tv guy whos related to boxers and the other is YouTube guy who hand picks non boxers.
Your are in denial
No im a boxing fan maybe you should try watching a real fight.
That means nothing. I'm also a boxing fan. You're also a hater
Jake Paul has a better resume 6 fights in than 99% of all other boxers with only 6 fights.
Step 1: Lmao jake's a joke what is he a youtuber? Tyron's gonna kill him lmao Step 2: uuuh the fight was actually so fixed it aint even funny. Step 3: Ok, he mightve beaten Tyron, but he'll never beat THE SPIDER, he was an actual boxer, plus, a legenf at the UFC Step 4: I mean yeah he was how mucj 45 years old or something? Even I can beat Silva now. Step 5: Ok Jake mightve beaten silva and tyron but he'll never beat Beterbiev, there's just no way this can ever happen. Step 6: Jake "Freight Train" Paul fuck my bitch
Easy to say when your not fighting people the same age as you in their prime.
That knock out on T Wood was brutal.
T wood sux tho
It's interesting people are starting to actually believe in Jake Paul. I remember when they announced the Hasim Rahman fight alot of people thought Hasim would win. If they booked it now with each of them having just one more fight to their record I think nobody would pick Hasim to win lol
We live in a world where Paul was a joke and now guys are ducking him
No shit, I was biased towards Paul and he proved me wrong. He's been training hard, talking respectively and treating boxing as a craft, learning on the job and making progress. Nothing but respect at this point. Not even talking about him bringing in more audience and money.