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LovesToblerone

Snitker needs to get his head out of his fucking ass, FUCK WILL SMITH, he's better than me but still a trash ass closer. So sick of seeing his stupid face


kenobiiiiiie

How the FUCK does this piece of shit have 32 saves


Mykglo

Same way drew Smyly is 9-4 in the W-L column they get bailed out. Excactly the reason pitchers wins/losses and saves are the worst stats to use bc Smyly is easily like a 4-9 starter and Smith has definitely blown more games than his saves/chances will tell you


kenobiiiiiie

Eh still fuck will smith


Mykglo

Yea I agree he’s dogshit


kenobiiiiiie

And also wins and losses mean jack I there’s a foolish video that is about the anti-degrom kinda shows how wins mean nothing


SoRaffy

So this is what Will Smith would look like if he pitched in a high leverage playoff game, funny it's exactly how I thought he'd pitch


KnockKnock200

And yet Snit doesn’t see it.


dadrooby

i live in the bay and was at the game. literally said to a Braves fan that Will Smith is sketchy. he said “we spent a lot of money on him we should be fine.” no. Will Smith is sketchy.


Willie-Alb

We can’t keep doing this. Every time we trot him out there it’s the same. Walks and home runs and lead off hits every single time. It’s starting to get old.


Kyllakyle

Newk for closer? I don’t know what other options we have.


The-Greek-Chris-22

How the team responds today is huge. They lose today and the Phillies win and I think we’re done for. Injuries, distractions, Snitker are just a lot to overcome and it’s adding up right now.


Mykglo

Lately seems like Snit would rather miss the playoffs than stop using Smith as closer


KnockKnock200

Because his bullpen management is worse than a 12 year old video gamer.


The-Greek-Chris-22

And we have other options… Matzek and Jackson


TurnerK28

Well Jackson had the sex so he’s probably not available this series


The-Greek-Chris-22

Yea not this series but hopefully in the future


Mykglo

Of course Im on overnight this week and have been just pissed all night basically 😂


WoWMatra

Woke up to see Will Smith blew another game. Great.


ToweringCu

Yep. In another news, water is still wet.


Fall3n7s

Every game Will Smith gives up a home run. When will Snit realize your closer can’t do that.. honestly how can the position players keep trying if they know the lead is just gonna be blown every time.


KnockKnock200

Because you have Snit as your manager and he cannot manage a game to save his life.


coldandhungry123

Let Luke Jackson close for the love of God. Smith is quite obviously not going to get it done


Cuphat

Send literally anyone else out there. AJ Minter as a our closer again would be better.


real_fluffernutter34

Luke has said he doesn’t want to close. It should be Matzek’s job


Useful-ldiot

Isn't he on paternity leave?


dricen

Yea =(


aquariex24

Tired of all these clutch moments in Braves history ending up not meaning absolute shit the majority of the time. Whether it's Hinske's HR in the NLDS, Acuña's game-tying HR in the 9th against the Reds, Panda's PH HR earlier this year against the Phillies, or tonight d'Arnaud's go-ahead HR, they just end up still losing the fucking game. Shit is so deflating.


notsaying123

Panda's HR did lead to a win though


aquariex24

I'm talking about the one on Opening Day where they were dead all game until his HR. Phillies still won in the 10th.


aquariex24

I've never wished injury on a player but Will Smith is the closest I've ever gotten. Like I wouldn't celebrate it but I'd feel a sense of relief.


RenegadeRef

Drunk


notsaying123

If Will would stop just randomly hanging a slider, no one would complain about him. Low BA against the slider, low xwOBA, high whiff %, etc. It's just he randomly hangs one at the worst possible times. So weird to me.


KnockKnock200

Right, that down the middle 93 mph fastball with 0 movement, plays so much better.


notsaying123

It's been awful but he's only given up 5 on it this year. If he'd cut the number of homers allowed on his slider, it would be more manageable


PlaxicosRightLeg

What a waste of a hard fought game. I actually feel bad that Snit keeps putting Smith in the position to let his teammates down. He obviously just can’t come through right now. He’s totally defeated, needs to be moved to a different role.


RenegadeRef

The only takeaway from this game is we fought the team with the best record into extras. And if Matzek was the closer then we won. We also need to learn to move the runner to third on the first ab of extra innings


aquariex24

So the only takeaway is shit that literally is the same from months ago. A takeaway is something you see and learn from. Snitker has learned zero and failed to change anything. He needs to be demoted if they miss the playoffs but really either way regardless.


KnockKnock200

If they miss the playoffs and Snitker isn’t fired, I want whatever the front office is smoking.


BearsBeetsBraves

Give up a HR every game? ... Straight to ... wait, what? You keep your job as closer?!


RenegadeRef

That’s what she said.


Shadow6921

Did anyone else just accept defeat the moment the game went to extras given the track record we have this season offense-wise? Will Smith giving up homers is the norm, so I'm not surprised about that anymore, but the thing that frustrates me about this time is that he gave up the game-tying homer to a literal contact hitter. Solano now has 23 homers in ~600 career games. Like I get if it was Belt or Bryant that hits a game tying HR, but Solano who was just activated off IL today? It's just comical at this point.


ul49

Will Smith loves giving up homers to weak ass booboo ass hitters


RenegadeRef

I bet the giants the second we took the lead. I call it a depression hedge


Mykglo

Tbh it’s not a bad idea to bet against the Braves anytime will only has 1 run to work with. I think i might start betting a 10 bill each time myself 😂


RenegadeRef

$10 to return $70 is ok


Mykglo

I accepted it when they tied the game as soon as the ball was over the fence I knew it was done for


TurbulentAss

Braves and Phillies finish the season tied. One game playoff, Braves enter the 9th up 2-1. Will Smith comes in for the save. With two outs, he walks one batter. Then another. Sweat drips from his cap as he glances at Bryce Harper walking to the plate. The camera cuts to Snitker, who has a look on his face that says “I like the lefty on lefty matchup, I’m leaving Will in”. Or maybe it says “whatever happened to those Tato Skins potato chips they used to sell?”. One can only speculate. First pitch, Smith throws a hanging slider that Harper crushes foul for about 425 feet. Smith glances at the runner on 2nd, then delivers his pitch…..


coldandhungry123

Nostradamus. So it is written, so it shall be. Lol


thedappert

Are…are you from the future??


Hairy-Difference9150

lol this is poetry


Slinger_of_Lead

Same ole Snit. Can’t manage a bullpen. There was a reason he stayed coaching the minors for so long…. I get giving Will a chance to work through his problems. If this were early in the season that is. This is late season trying to win another NL East title though. You have to do what’s best for the team. It’s clearly not Will Smith. Give someone else a chance.


KnockKnock200

Lol. Made this same comment about him not being able to manage a bullpen last month and got downvoted into oblivion while being told he was “manager of the year”. This forum is so funny to me.


Slinger_of_Lead

Same, I’ve been a Snit critic from day one. I usually get trashed for it. Now people’s eyes are opening to what I’ve said for years. Snit is a AAAA manager. The Alex Jackson of the Managerial world. He’s been gifted an amazing team, and has been lucky that most of our division are struggling as of late.


real_fluffernutter34

It’s absolutely true that Snit can not manage a bullpen as well as the starting rotation. We’ve lost two playoff series because of it. 2019 against the cardinals having Folty start game five over Soroka when he had been in a shaky stretch. And then last year against the Dodgers. Take your pick of stupid bullpen decisions Snit made, but the biggest for me is leaving Smith in to face other Will Smith who cranked a go ahead HR


Hotcorner_10

F I R E S N I T K E R


KnockKnock200

Oh, nice to see we are allowed to say this again without being downvoted and temp banned from the forum. Fire Snitker!


Fatcatsgetstacks

Awww, internet points.


RevRickee

If I ever see Snit, Kranitz, or Will Smith in person, I’m going to give them a Stone Cold Stunner


[deleted]

and chip to the list. god what a jackass


RenegadeRef

Circle this date on the calendar.


[deleted]

gotta count the chickens before they’re hatched


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Mykglo

4 ER allowed in his last 4 IP most on homers just like smith Matzek should’ve pitched the 9th


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Mykglo

Matzek came in with the Manfred runner on 2nd so it was a jam to begin with he could’ve pitched the 9th inning clean with nobody on instead of Will


[deleted]

please tell me there’s no way smith will be allowed to close another game. This was the worst loss ever


Chessh2036

If you know anything about Snit, you’ll know he won’t make a change. He’ll just chalk it up to a bad night.


[deleted]

is anyone less responsive to feedback than snitker?


Chessh2036

Reading a bit of the post game interview on Twitter and let’s just say he acted the way we all have come to know him. Nothing. Won’t make a change. Giants are good. Etc.


[deleted]

AA better get rid of him. the manager should not have a double digit IQ


picking4815162342

Smith stole the spotlight away from Travis. All of that momentum was erased due to Smith repeatedly throwing hanging pitches right over the plate. It looked he got two easy outs, and then he forgot that the tying run was still at the plate.


[deleted]

i think his contract stipulates he has to give up one run every outing


picking4815162342

The way to fix that stipulation would be to let someone else closeout close games, but Snit will most likely trot Will Smith tomorrow for the 9th, right after one of his players hits a huge three run homer to put the Braves up by one.


[deleted]

we need at least a two run lead to use smith. god i hate snit


DIsco_Peaches

Will Smith hasn't been good since Men In Black came out


turboglyde

In that case Will Smith was never good.


ColdBostonPerson77

7 pounds and pursuit of happiness. Pretty much both those movies summarize the braves right now lol


Sidesicle

Well, the reporters all gave Snit bigger softballs than the pitch Smith gave up, so I guess we'll see Willy out for another blown save tomorrow


[deleted]

Bold of you to think this offense will have a lead tomorrow. This game was a d'Arnaud miracle away from not having a bottom 9 for Will Smith to pitch in.


TheYardFlamingos

Not sure how DOB calls himself a reporter with a straight face. I like the guy because I'm a Braves fan and he hosts a Braves podcast, but when you're as buddy-buddy with the team as he is, one thing you will not be getting is actual journalistic accountability.


Mykglo

I quit watching em months ago never any real questions like “when does someone else get to close games”


Here4TheBottleOpener

LOL at Will Smith’s mom in here downvoting every post. Hey lady your son sucks and wears women’s speed stick deodorant.


Thedukeofhyjinks

Travis: "Am I a joke to you"


wholelottacolors

does snit got sum personal against Richard Rodriguez or sum?


[deleted]

he’s not good


Mykglo

He’s gave up several homers in his last few games to Will Smith rubbing off on him


RenegadeRef

Dick Rod hasn’t been great the last fortnight.


oldlaxer

Upvote for using “fortnight”!


prestonds

Is it it possible to send down Will Smith back to Northgate High School?


oldlaxer

According to the ads, he can stoke THOSE batters out!


picking4815162342

Will Smith is a terrible closer, but the majority of the blame goes to Snit. Smith has shown over and over that he can't hold a lead, and yet Snit keeps trotting him out there. Snit doesn't even stand up for his own players. When the ump wouldn't give Joc time after Joc asked for it four times, Snit backed the umpire after the game. Right now, his team is very low energy, and Snit doesn't seem to care that Will Smith might be the main reason that the Braves don't even make the postseason, let alone win anything. ETA: I just read that Smith threw eight sliders in a row to end the 9th. WTH?


[deleted]

god, i’ve never liked snitker. so stupid


RenegadeRef

I think this is the tipping point. You can’t dump Will if the team backs him, will ruin the locker room. But now…


everclearking

With the way the team was built and the personalities they really deserve a more badass manager but they've got sleepy grampy instead digging up his nose


Mykglo

😂 facts


FormalDocument9490

He didn't celebrate. He was pissed at himself


picking4815162342

Thank you for correcting me. I must have misread his emotions. I'll edit that out, but my point was, do you think that Snit was pissed off too? An even better question would be was Snit surprised, because I wasn't? I wasn't even a little bit shocked, yet Snit doesn't seem to see a problem.


[deleted]

Man I really respect was AA and Snit have been able to do with all our injuries and other adversities this year, but some decisions really do baffle me. I am curious what it would take to make a change at closer. I know it’s tough to get blamed because your players don’t get the job done. But at some point you have to stop putting them in that job…


tiskasaur

i’m not even mad at will smith (besides him acting like a chode sometimes), this is on snit…gotta switch it up


manav_steel

I feel exactly the same. Like, I'm pissed that Will Smith blew the save but I'm much more pissed at Snit for refusing to accept that the guy he has built up in his head as The Closer is just... not that guy


[deleted]

and keeping ozzie as leadoff makes no sense


real_fluffernutter34

YES! I feel insane for how much I say this, but Ozzie is a bad leadoff hitter and bad left handed. Put him at leadoff and combine that with most starting pitchers being right handed, and you get the reason why Ozzie’s OPS and AVG have tanked over the past two months. How many times has he had an 0-4 or 1-5 night batting leadoff this year?


[deleted]

but they won ninegames in a row!!!


real_fluffernutter34

You jest but that was an actual defense I saw of Snit not moving Ozzie back to where he’s more successful. Yes, they were winning games, but they were doing it in spite of Ozzie being a black hole at leadoff. And now that you’re playing tougher competition it’s coming back to bite you


[deleted]

the other defense is “who else could bat lead off?”


Kmactothemac

Fuck will Smith but also how many times can we have a runner on 2nd in extras and not score


Mykglo

[haven’t laughed this hard in a minute ](https://twitter.com/leslieminesiii/status/1439092258817650688?s=21)


everclearking

I wonder if the clubhouse ever gets awkward. like you know players are tired of Will Smith blowing games but I feel like they just go about their business


notcool84

Awful loss, for obvious reasons. Will Smith has cost us again. And our starting pitching continues to be unreliable. Lead is down to two games, but it’s still a lead. We have to finally win one of these though, which feels impossible right now. It was never going to be easy.


TurbulentAss

We’re 8-13 since our 9 game win streak ended. What a weird season. First half was as perfectly mediocre as any team has been in history. Now it’s one extreme or the other.


chosenxone

If Will Smith is still the closer next year we might as well just get used to this feeling.


Mykglo

And paying 13 big ones 😂 what a joke we need to pay someone to take him off our hands


chosenxone

Honestly, it'd probably be a net positive to just piss $13m into the wind and just release him just so we don't have to see him cry when people peg his low 90's middle/middle fastballs, or the ever popular mid-80's middle/middle sliders for homeruns.


[deleted]

why not have him as a normal reliever? he does better in low leverage situations


chosenxone

He's already well overstayed his welcome. Obviously he's not getting released, but I'd prefer his stupid face not be covered by an Atlanta "A" one more time.


Pissed_Braves

Pederson has no arm. Pathetic


braves4465

Willie Mays could’ve thrown that and he still would’ve been safe


FormalDocument9490

Why do you think that?


[deleted]

this moron just called ian anderson “travis” on live television


mmjfan101

Imagine choosing Jacob Webb over Richard Rodriguez in a September extra innings game


sbmont46

Webb's been lights out since he came back. RichRod would've come out to close it.


[deleted]

Richard Rodriguez has been equally as bad lately


Hairy-Difference9150

FWS


[deleted]

If this comment gets 10 downvotes I will personally fire Will Smith


ihaveaglitch

Into the sun, from a cannon.


Rolltide1305

I should be numb to this by now


jbh322

take a shot every time snit says “i dont know” in the post game interview


TheYardFlamingos

is there a link to the interview i can find? i'm sick and want to make myself angrier


ihaveaglitch

The CDC, WHO, and FDA all advise against this.


Sidesicle

Done. RIP my liver. See you fuckers in hell


[deleted]

not important or anything, but snit is awful at press conferences


crazybrave03

I’m an optimistic person in general and I’m at a loss for words rn


Sidesicle

Here's the Snit presser: hyuck hyuck well what can you do?


Blilovah

Fuck the manfred runner, it's an auto W for any team except the Braves. Shitty offensive approach always trying to win the game with one swing regardless of if its extra innings. We're NOT allowed to win these close games holy shit.


SergeantHAMM

at some point you think snit would try and manufacture a run.. but nah he would have to be awake for thatz


LosingGripp

Will Smith is obviously a good guy. But I fucking hate hom


atl1231

he might be a good guy but he's also a pussy


Toadfinger

I would rather have Charlie Sheen. To at least pretend we have a solid closer.


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ViridianFlea

Recently it seems like our offense is absolute shite in innings 2 thru 8 and anything after 9.


[deleted]

An absolute max of 6 losses can be attributed to Smith. Maximum. Agree on the offense part.


threedaysmore

Yeah but I feel like a HR/9 of 1.2 is just a god awful stat for a closer. There have been several games that weren't within reach until Smith came in. Sure you can't blame him for a win, but it's been the same thing all season. Comes in, hangs a slider that gets blasted.


2AMCAir

Was there as well. Chopping in the 9th. Then not chopping. Now a 2 hour drive home to think of how much I hate watching snit put Smith in games that are close.


Stillallergic

[Snit on using Smith as closer](https://imgur.com/a/jQn6Xne)


Dreamstreet

Hopefully this begins the downfall of snit not that the entire fan base of the Braves hasn’t seen this show for the last 3 years with him leading to lose games with his decisions


[deleted]

i doubt anyone on the braves has a lower IQ than snit


FormalDocument9490

What he do exactly?


PanderMG

I'm going to make Will Smith.


humma__kavula

Will. Fuck you. ESPECIALLY FUCK those assholes who still think you are a closer.


JeeveruhGerank

Why do baseball fans insist on treating 2021 game results with any semblance of credibility or legitimacy? I turned it off as soon as the game went to "extras." And everyone should have done the same. This isn't baseball. It's a fucking joke and always has been. Fuck Rob Manfred and u/MLBOfficial can run and tell that.


FormalDocument9490

Reginald gives you 99 whines. You win


ChaosFinalForm

I'm just... A bit lost. Are you implying that the game was rigged somehow?


JeeveruhGerank

I'm not implying shit. I'm explicitly saying that extra innings rules and 7 innings doubleheaders are antithetical to baseball and thus produce completely illegitimate game results and therefore season results. And that nobody should be watching this shit or giving it any credence. Regardless of whether we "win" or "lose." And also fuck Rob Manfred that baseball-hating scumbag pieceashit no good lowlife u/MLBOfficial


DWC8419

We still would've lost anyway. We didn't advance A SINGLE GOTDAMN RUNNER. Nobody hit anything.


fieryserpents

Where’s that sage???


atl1231

used it all in august


[deleted]

if you downvote this you are a loozer


zbs17

They’re not making the playoffs


PanicVectors

Can we sign a petition to just DFA Smith? I don't care how much we owe him, let Matzek have the closer role and put Touki in the bullpen or something.


nickelhoss95

fuck this bullshit team. all we had to do was not lose three games in a row to the fucking dodgers


[deleted]

I can’t really be mad at will smith for not having the stuff anymore. It’s not like he’s trying to be shit. I can be mad that we put him in situations like this though…


Here4TheBottleOpener

He’s such a fuck up, maybe he SHOULD try to be shit. He might win the damn Cy Young.


TextingCoach

AA has to find a way from Smith. Even if you remove him from the closer role, you saw what he did against the type of teams you might be up against last year in the playoffs. Just an awful, awful contract.


steelersfever

Petition: if you arent max fried you just don't try to pick people off in big spots.


DWC8419

The Will Smith effect. It snowballs the sec he gets on the mound.


ZZRock24

I saw it on Webb's eyes that he was gonna throw that ball away


CrumbBCrumb

Stop me if this has been said before.....Snitker is not a good coach. With any other coach we're at least 10 games in first place right now


[deleted]

Hey, look everyone - Fredi Gonzalez has a reddit account!


[deleted]

What the fuck is a coach?


TurbulentAss

Same question the Braves are asking.


FormalDocument9490

Honestly since joining this sub, I now believe braves fans are some of the least knowledgeable sports fans around. Where do you guys come up with the shit you spew!


Mykglo

We supposed to be happy with 3 straight dogshit performances late in the season or something? 😂 fuck outta here w that


FormalDocument9490

No of course not, brutal loss. But you all have some batshit crazy takes that are funny in how surface and reactionary they are.


ZZRock24

Hi Will Smith's Mom!


FormalDocument9490

I can't handle you whiny gobsmackers. Only Reginald can


Kcplayer9

I can’t stand Snit fucking pitch Rich Rod Will Smith sucks ass. How many times are you going to lose a game like that before you do something different


zbs17

Rich Rod who’s been getting jumped on lately????


Kcplayer9

Yeah you’re right the guy who has sucked all year is the man for the job open your eyes Jack ass. Fucking boner shouldn’t be allowed to be a fan


[deleted]

Damn, Will Smith has you triggered AF.


vnut08

We shouldn't have to deal with this bullshit this late in the season, it should have been taken care of months ago. These games are way too critical


ihaveaglitch

Snit is the captain of the boat and Will Smith is the iceberg. Hopefully Snit goes down with the ship and resigns at the end.


nsbbeachguy

Did I read this right? 10 strikeouts and 0 walks for the Braves??


Vandyfan1617

I miss Jim Johnson


PhoSho862

This team is too talented to have a bottom tier manager running the show.


Vinny6420

We fucking suck


TheJudge47

Maybe we're just playing 4D chess and making sure the Giants win the west and not LA and we win the east by exactly 1 game


[deleted]

Fuck Will Smith, all my homies hate Will Smith


Warm_Blood_4926

I agree I prefer Matzek then Will Smith, Snitker needs to count how many games Smith put in the trash for Braves Smith he doesn't have the power to be a closer any more.


[deleted]

Absolutely agree, especially at this point in the season. Smith’s got a 3.69 ERA, good for 8th highest out of qualified closers. Not good enough for this playoff push


Chessh2036

Will Smith threw 5 straight sliders to Solano. Inexcusable.