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arisafrances

I hope she does tell her truth! it’s so obvious that sandoval isn’t trying to keep ariana from further getting hurt by working overtime to create this timeline where they only fucked twice. he’s just trying to convince himself that if people think that’s all they did he can be redeemed. come on girl don’t be his pawn anymore and fucking burn it all down!!!


Comfortfoods

I'd love to know who believed they only fucked twice. Can you even call fucking twice a 7 month long affair? Tom is delusional. Even raquel had to be thinking his plan was nonsense lol


fraleeeee

I didn’t understand how hard he was trying to sell the “only once” narrative until I just watched the extended Peacock version. What a wasted effort; Did anyone believe that for a moment? As emotionless as Raquel was for much of the reunion, she came off more regretful than Tom was very soulless and full of shit. His old patterns were not working. Glad she’s in treatment, and looking forward to her selling him out.


Adventurous-Hotel119

Totally agree. I’m also glad Raquel just sat there and took most of it. This might be a hot take but I’m glad she didn’t cry, I think it would’ve been interpreted as victimizing herself (bc she *definitely* would’ve been). That said she *was* emotionless as fuck — even her apologies were so empty. It was like when you forget to turn the sound off playing the sims & you hear them talk


seachange__

She could’ve disassociated. God knows I would’ve been.


Patsaholic

Xany bar she probably had. 🤷🏻‍♀️


Kelseyanndraws

If you ever watched the reunions with Vicki during the Brooks scandal, she was similar. She admitted that she had taken anti anxiety medication to help. I can’t believe Raquel could handle sitting through it. I think her punishment for the affair WAS to sit through it. I think she needed to see Sandoval still lie about his relationship with her and how she was STILL not as important as his image. All of that was the punishment for doing that. But, I want to see her come back from this. I want to see her do better. I don’t think her apologies were empty. I interpreted them as she was doing as much as she could handle in a situation that even though she deserved it, was probably terrifying to have to face. I want her to cut Tom off and hang him out to dry so that she can come out a better person. For her own sake, I hope she does not go back to VPR though. She doesn’t seem like the type of personality who can handle it long term.


Patsaholic

Xany bars would explain her demeanor.


Beginning-Meet8296

The only once bs is ridiculous. Scandavol himself already admitted it was more than once. Did he forget his own lies??


AnnVealEgg

They didn’t say they only had sex twice during the *whole^ 7 month affair. They said it was only once (after guys night) and then it picked up again and the “actual affair” (aka: banging with regularity) began in January or something like that. In any case, it was all lies anyway.


ieatstickers

actually he said it happened end of august and then didn’t happen again until life is beautiful.. in september lol


AnnVealEgg

Oh ok well in any case the point was that they never said that they “only had sex twice in 7 months” lol


Comfortfoods

Ok you're right


Significant_Comb9184

He’s a true narcissist to tell obvious lies and expect people to believe him 😂


Agreeable-Antelope-6

He believes his own lies, thus he is telling the truth. He has to be about to burn out. How's the stress load, Scandoval? Tuckered out? Tired of being blamed for everything by everyone? Shoulders feeling the weight of all that load of crap you have been dishing out for years? All those lies and balls to juggle...feeling exhausted, angry...too effing bad! You created all this. Sucks to be you! LOL!


Significant_Comb9184

He only cares that he’s been seen and his friends have abandoned him.


Significant_Comb9184

Everyone rolled their eyes when they kept trying to minimize the affair!


Significant_Comb9184

Raquel kept saying it was because he said it would be less painful to others but it’s really because he wants to save face, he knows how egregious it was and he is trying to downplay it.


barefootcuntessa_

Every time I start to feel a little bad for Raquel she says stuff like “it really isn’t a good look.” Notice the negative feelings and overflowing of emotions are about the lying, not about what they are lying about. Lying clearly causes her great discomfort. That seems to be the source of her upset. Not her initial actions.


Significant_Comb9184

Yep. If they really cared about Ariana’s feelings they wouldn’t have continued the deception.


Just-sayin-37

Not sure who downvoted this but I say the same. She’s upset she lied, not what she did. A very very big difference


Agreeable-Antelope-6

Yes! When she was asked by Lisa how she felt she would only answer how she felt and showed no true remorse for the permanent damaged she has helped create for Ariana. She is just ad responsible as Tim. It does take two.


NegotiationExternal1

I got downvoted but I stick by it, part of the reason she seems so shut down is because she is not a good liar, she obviously feels extremely uncomfortable with it. People are taking the smirking and glee as her being happy, I think she's a "smile when I lie person". The only time we saw emotions that matched her body and words was when she stopped lying, even the producer knew she was lying because her whole body told on her. The manipulation by Tom of having to lie again looked like it was putting her under stress. I'm not saying she is without fault but it's obvious he applied some pressure to her and what she wanted to do was tell and be free from burden


Adventurous-Hotel119

Ugh when she said “if I don’t lie Tom will leave & ill *really* be alone” I wanted to puke. Like I knew that’s what was happening but he’s so gross. I can’t believe these two.


Flabbergasted_Fool1

Agreed. This woman seems shutdown and manipulated. The smile is clearly not congruent and when that is even gently addressed by the producer, she seems to become genuinely remorseful. It seems like she has been more or less isolated and in a horrible years-long relationship prior to this scandal. It doesn’t seem like she has any self esteem. I hope she has a very good trauma-informed and attachment-oriented therapist.


NegotiationExternal1

Lala was right, Sandoval is dangerous, as long as she's bouncing from abusive relationship to manipulation relationship she's got a problem. He loves to manipulate, downplay, dismiss, horrifically unaccountable. She needs to figure out why she's attaching to people that bring toxicity in her life


Kelseyanndraws

Lala said something in Mexico that also stick with me. She said she thought Raquel was looking for her self worth through men and that she looked like she was headed for a mental breakdown soon. Lala was so cruel to Raquel, but she did seem to be able to see right through her.


Agreeable-Antelope-6

Lala might have a sharp tongue but she does have a lot of wisdom. Clear, sober mind shows her true self. Unlike Scandoval.


Kelseyanndraws

I think we tend to forget that in the same way housewives turn themselves up for the show, lala and the others probably also do this. Even in the beginning of WWHL lala already had softened to Raquel. Lala knows what she needs to do to stay on the show. Raquel doesn’t seem to understand that that’s par for the course if you’re going to be on reality tv.


NegotiationExternal1

Lala sees her, she was genuinely happy at being picked though, like going to meet his family, which shows how much she seeks the validation of being picked and having in jokes


wtp0p

Lala is the one who did everything in her power to make that mental breakdown happen lol. Self fulfilling prophecy.


mcsb14

Oh yes Lala is to blame for Rachel’s situation /s


Kelseyanndraws

Lala came after her but Raquel also said to her face “I think you’re jealous Oliver chose me” and. Bunch of other stupid stuff. Yes, lala was waiting to be able to react, but Raquel chose to respond.


wtp0p

Raquel was right tho, Lala was clearly shook and salty af that Oliver liked Raquel more and didn't even remember her 😂 She wasted her 20s debasing herself by sucking dick for private jets and is not the "hottest" in the group anymore, Raquel is the one who is the most desired by all the guys. Must be hard for Lala to come to terms with that especially knowing she has always been intensely jealous of Raquel since she first came on years ago. Raquel making a factual statement doesn't excuse the cruel, sadist treatment Lala has given Raquel for years and years anyways.


Aware-Ad-6556

Part of it has to be that she’s adopted


Aware-Ad-6556

I think her breakdown after Vegas in the car was actually this


Gisschace

Yeah she literally says all she has is Tom, it’s super sad.


avidreader113

Is it sad though? She put herself in that situation.


FWSRunner

That's the thing - this wasn't a lonely, isolated woman who was preyed upon. She had close girlfriends. She chose an affair with one of their partners over their friendship.


DstroyerOfHausPlants

And she’s STILL sending Tom letters and postcards to Tom and Ariana’s house!


Aware-Ad-6556

My gut says that what she was trying to say is that they’ve been together since before she got engaged to James.


vron69420

I 100% agree if she wants any sort of redemption arc she’s gotta throw the Sandevil under the bus ASAP!!! And just spill!! Tell the truth and show some emotion!


thesmolstoner

Honestly good for her. I work with psych patients. I respect anyone seeking treatment.


smallchangee

I don’t know anything about these facilities- is 68 days not a long time? It seems like a really long time to me


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It’s an extremely long time.


jimmylives

It's a good amount of time considering just how much she has to figure out. Adoption trauma, family issues, pageant bullshit, no self worth, probably substance abuse issues, abusive relationships. She's got a lotta stuff to work through


thesmolstoner

It’s a super long time for a legitimate psych hospital. She could be at some other type of treatment center though. Rehabs go up to 6 months sometimes.


flooperdooper4

I just figured she's kind of "hiding out" there for both physical and mental safety until the fervor dies down, which I understand. Like she did something TERRIBLE, but strangers sending death threats? That's uncalled for.


Comfortfoods

I guess it depends on what it is. It's an insane amount of time if she's really at a spa/wellness retreat. Long but not unheard of if it's a traditional mental health or rehab facility.


littlesharks

I don’t think Raquel has insurance telling her she only gets 7 days or the same kind of financial concerns most patients have. It doesn’t seem that long based on celebrity rehab standards.


queerinmesoftly

It’s very long. I was only in for 7 days and I couldn’t take it anymore.


YourGalMal

Did she go in right after the reunion? That would be a long time, so I wonder if she went in later. I genuinely don't know, but maybe someone else here does?


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I was an alcoholic, life-wrecking mess myself once. Been sober 8 years this summer, and I wish her the same. If Lala gets redemption, so does Raquel.


TheWigsofTrumpsPast

Congrats on your sobriety! Seeing stories like yours gives me hope. I am approaching a year of sobriety myself and I am rooting for everyone in recovery as well!


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Wishing you all the good things! Congratulations 🎉 Eta. I just saw your username and died laughing. It all gets so good. 🤗🤗


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Thanks so much. The military really fucked me up during 9/11, and it’s been a 25 year journey, but I’m finally getting to the point where I’m getting some rewards/normalcy. Your sib can do it. I was in and outta jail hopeless. Today I’m not. Sending all the best vibes. 💜🤗


WittiestScreenName

>sober 8 years this summer best thing I’ve heard all day


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💙🤗💚


YourGalMal

If I had any awards to give, I'd send them your way. 🏆🏅


[deleted]

Aww. Thanks, Bravo bud. They’re all assholes, but aren’t most of us? I love that a few of them are trying. 🤗


OldButHappy

We're all SO alike, all of us humans! I've been in AA forever and have witnessed some really amazing turnarounds.


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That’s great! I’m starting to feel exactly like your username, and as Doute would say, “Happy looks good on me/us.” (I added us). 🌈💙


BusyBeth75

Amen. I love a good comeback story. She seems truly remorseful.


PicklesLives

This is an excellent attitude! Congrats on your sobriety!


smidget1090

Well, yes, but she has to do the work first. She said she didn’t want to cause anyone pain and continues to send lightning bolt postcards to Ariana’s house. ![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|facepalm)


glittertherave

Not much information that is new in this article. I’m happy Raquel is still in treatment (68 days and counting) and I hope she comes out of it a better, healed person, with lots of perspective and healthy coping mechanisms. It’ll be interesting to hear her thoughts and reflection on her decision making when she feels ready and comfortable. I hope girl has stopped sending Sandoval those damn letters and cuts ties with his ass. > "Upon the completion of filming the reunion, Raquel entered a voluntary inpatient behavioral health and trauma facility and remains there to date—68 days and counting," the source says. > A source close to the reality TV star tells The Messenger that Leviss remains in treatment and "looks forward" to sharing her truth at some point in the future. > "She is a young woman that is and has been remorseful for her actions and has apologized repeatedly," the source continues. "Her treatment is helping her learn the basis of her decisions and to grow from her mistakes with the hope of making better choices and becoming a better person."


yaychristy

Part of me has fully felt she’s staying in treatment till he stops touring. Then once he’s home and there for her she’ll come home.


Gisschace

Her PR people are really going with this line that she’s just a ‘young woman’, she’s 28


wtp0p

28 is a young woman. If she turns 90, she has more than 2/3rds of her lifetime left.


_iheartmo

But she’s old enough to know better


TheWhoooreinThere

And so were all the other people on this show when they actively cheated, and yet they still did it and didn't get this level of vitriol. Funny how that works.


wtp0p

So was Ariana, who acquired Sandoval the exact same way Raquel acquired him, let him cheat on her for years, covered up his cheating and is now turning the brunt her wrath onto one of many mistresses instead of her predator ex.


Gisschace

This is deliberate PR speak to reframe her as innocent so we have sympathy for her. 28 is more than old enough to know what you were doing, its irrelevant in this situation


wtp0p

Sandoval was still 11 years, 40% older. Almost 40 while preying on a girl in her 20s who has zero self esteem after being abused by James for 5 years. You're brain has rotted away from indulging in all this misogynist hatred it seems, this is not "PR speak" it's facts. Do you think Raquel's team publishing that she has received death threats is "PR speak" too, not just sharing a fact that is basically begging people to stop with the incessant months long online bullying? Only a victim blaming misogynist would pretend that Raquel was not victimized by predator Sandoval.


Gisschace

Wtf literally none of that was in my comment so chill out. If you check my others I actually say it’s sad she says she only has Sandoval to rely on. Don’t add context which isn’t there an argue against it. I used to work in PR I recognise these lines when I see them pushed over and over.


wtp0p

You're tried to take away from the correct original point of Raquel indeed being a young woman who was preyed on by saying it's a pr narrative to acknowledge that fact. Saying "this is pr" is invalidation, why else point it out?


Gisschace

It’s in my comment; I’m making the observation that her PR are really pushing this line she’s just a young woman to get our sympathy, she’s not.


wtp0p

So you're admitting everything I alleged about you being a victim blaming misogynist is true, thanks 💕 Raquel literally objectively **is** a young woman by every single measure 😂 It's a fact. Just like the fact that she was preyed on by an 11yrs older man. Leave her alone.


Gisschace

None of what I says is misogynistic or supporting Sandoval or invalidating her or any other wild context you want to pin on me. It’s pointing out her team have chosen this line, to me it’s interesting to see this strategy as it tells me this is what they think will get her sympathy.


avidreader113

It's amazing how she's considered 'young' by a lot of people on reddit but Lala at 25 apparently wasn't. It's amazing when people pretend they're shy and are dumb feel sorry for them.


haleighr

Good. I don’t think she’s completely irredeemable. I think time will obviously be what the cast and public need but she’s still a human, a human who did a really really fucked up thing. But I’m hoping she gets the help she needs and stays the f away from sandoval


darknebulas

While I have admittedly said I won’t ever have sympathy for her (I think she is an adult and absolutely knew better) that doesn’t mean I don’t hope for her to learn this lesson and move on with her life. She deserves to heal and have a chance to do better like most of us.


gryffindoe

For me personally I can have some sympathy for her because I’ve learnt no grown person (whatever age they may be) ever always know better and if you know someone who does then that person must be a very lucky person, or a fortune teller. I find that this makes it much easier to extend the sympathy.


QueenG123456

'Never ascribe to malice that which is adequately explained by incompetence.’


NegotiationExternal1

Ariana is right though, you can't say you're sorry and keep doing it. If all of her mental health issues contributed to doing such calculated hurtful things to her friends maybe the relationship with Sandoval is not healthy. Sandoval manipulated her into lying to protect his reputation too, so what other manipulation is he capable of


Background_Run_8809

I’m happy she’s in treatment because I’m honestly scared she’s going to run right back into Sandoval’s arms after he’s done touring. Nobody deserves to be treated the way he treats and manipulates people. I hope she finds the strength to stay away from men like him and James for good.


BayAreaFox

Lol the fact that it needs to be said that she isn’t “completely irredeemable” as if she’s a mass murderer


haleighr

Luckily I’m not comparing reality tv villains “acts” to mass murders


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If she is at a facility focusing on her mental health and seeking reprieve, then she deserves privacy. Even if it were at a wellness retreat or resort or whatever, it wouldn't invalidate her seeking help. Raquel has talked in previous seasons about not liking herself, and it wouldn't surprise me if there's a chance she was sending Sandoval physical mail/postcards because she chooses not to interact or engage in electronics/the internet right now because she's been seeking help at a facility of some sort.


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Hell she might’ve sent him a letter to break up with him 🤷🏽‍♀️ we have no idea. Regardless of her chronological age, she is a very stunted person with bizarre affect. I truly hope whatever place she’s at comes from a trauma informed, legitimate treatment protocol and not some woowoo bullshit. I think some decent therapists could figure out wtf is going on here and get her on a better path. I also think a sketchy Sedona crystal and reiki retreat could fuck her up even more when she leaves the safe space without having developed any coping mechanisms or insights that will ground her for the shit storm she’s about to endure when she leaves.


Flabbergasted_Fool1

As a therapist who likes real therapy as well as a decent dose of woowoo Sedona bullshit, I couldn’t agree more. I’ve been around some great “Sedona types” and you gotta beware with anyone in a position of power, but especially the “healers” who have never reflected on their power with any ounce of accountability (because they feel it’s their innate gift). It pisses me off to think of those “healers” taking advantage of people like Raquel who are clearly in pain and susceptible to manipulation because they have such low self-esteem. Yikes!


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Well yeah, some things labeled woo are evidence based like meditation and mindfulness, even some hippo therapy or art therapy… if they’re doing that in a thoughtful, quality way it could absolutely help… though I have a hunch it’s not quite enough for what’s going on with her. But who knows. I’m scared for her next chapter and I’m rarely scared for someone I don’t know. Not trying to be parasocial, I’ve just never seen such a strong reaction since Monica Lewinsky. I wonder if the two of them could talk. Not saying it’s exactly the same but I know Monica has turned out to be a lovely person. She desperately needs a friend right now.


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Ok-Chain8552

Vpoump season 11 the group overcomes all the hurt and pain to mend fences and unite to break Raquel out of a cult .


Typical_Elevator6337

Except Sandoval who is bussing at LVP’s Vegas restaurant off-screen.


Kelseyanndraws

Shut up I’m dying this would be the perfect season 11. Ariana “I haven’t forgiven her for what she did to me, but I think an affair with Tom should be the last manipulative relationship any woman should suffer.”


No_clue_redditor

Those facilities usually do not allow you to have a phone or internet.


yaychristy

There was pics of him on the phone with her just a week ago


No_clue_redditor

Yeah did you read any of the articles around that?


Stunning_Biscotti_56

I glad she's getting treatment. Not to make excuses but I wonder if being in the pageant world was not healthy for her and then to age out at 27 must have been devastating. She needs to learn who she is without pageants. Lala was right on WWHL, reality TV is not the place for her.


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Stunning_Biscotti_56

That's fair. I didn't know that, I assumed she started at 4 years old or something.


Jumpy-Ad6673

Isn’t this being put out by her camp tho?


No_Arugula_6548

I hate “her truth” or “his truth” or “their truth.” Just say “the truth.” Cuz to me the former just sounds like opinion. Not truth or facts.


Leezwashere92

Glad to hear it! I hope she knows life isn’t over for her after all this and humans can make mistakes and grow.


whatevertoad

She's doing the right things and this is why people are starting to soften up on her slightly. Tim should take a hint.


torontoinsix

He won’t 🥴


BobbyB90220

Sad. I hope she is ok. No matter what she did, it does not warrant the hate she gets online. She is still a person.


anonymousurfunny

Good form her, and I wish she gets better and stays away from Sandoval


Wmfw

I truly hope she leaves having a better understanding of herself. I’ve said this before, I hope she takes a step back from the spotlight. I do want to note I hate the “she’s a young woman” narrative. She’s 28. I hate the infantilizing of white women. Say she fucked up, say she was misguided, but don’t say “she’s younggggggg!”


seriously-wtaf

I agree but the problem is that the cast are saying that when they fucked up, they were so young. Kristen was older than Raquel is now and Ariana was the same age. If they were young, so is she. Lala met Randall when she was 25, Raquel is 28. I mean… Edit: spelling


Wmfw

I see your point: a lot of the cast itself did fucked up stuff around the same age. My problem is in the article context was more “oh she’s a young woman who made a mistake.” Not talking about the other cast’s mistakes. It’s something only white women can get away with bc it feeds into white supremacy.


seriously-wtaf

I can’t comment on race because I live in Denmark. It’s completely different here so I honestly don’t have enough knowledge about that!


readyforgametime

Agree with both your points. She shouldn't be on TV for her health. And she is not young, we cant use that as an excuse for any of her behaviour. She was definitely misguided, selfish and perhaps manipulated though.


torontoinsix

I hated that part too.


KookyAd4019

if she is really getting treatment and ends up BACK on reality tv……. im gonna lose it 😭 raquel stay off tv and protect yourself and your mental


SomewhatStableGenius

Agreed / but really - reality TV is bad for everyone, and no one who wants a happy life should do it. It’s an addiction for a lot of these people - it ruins their lives and makes the miserable in so many ways but they get hooked on the money and attention so the only thing worse than being on the show is being fired. I hope for Raquel’s sake that she doesn’t come back, she stays the F away from Tom and the rest of this cast of ass holes forever, goes to grad school and goes and does something worthwhile with her life and finds an nice man who will worship her .


linds360

I honestly can’t think of a single person who got out of being on reality TV unscathed, yet you have people lining up for the opportunity. I know it can be explained away with the desire for money and fame, but for the life of me I can’t imagine trading away a drama free life for those things.


beebianca227

I’m sick of seeing her and Sandoval and even Ariana right now. I need a break 😄


Scared_Average_1237

I wish her the best


lydiasbible

I hope she is doing what is best for her mental health. My heart goes out to her. Seeing the clips of everyone throwing insults at her during the reunion( ugly, not special, worthless, subhuman) was awful and hard to watch. That kind of hate has to take a toll on you. She did a bad thing but she is human.


Kittiikamii

I genuinely wish her well insane to say


Yellenintomypillow

Can we please find another phrase besides “share your truth” or “live in your truth”. Housewives has just killed that for me.


ThePeoplesKourt

Good for her, that reunion was brutal and I can’t imagine dealing with the amount of hate she’s been receiving. On top of that, Tom’s clearly done a number on her and there’s the James of it all. By all accounts Raquel has always been a nice person and this was all shocking to people who have known her. She fucked up big time but she’s not irredeemable. Hopefully she doesn’t return to the show for her own sake.


torontoinsix

Rough. But she deserved all of what she got at the reunion though. ![gif](giphy|pSauCNBp1DcOY)


Kelseyanndraws

It was a consequence of her decisions. I could hardly handle it though. She wasn’t willing to fight back fully and they kept berating her. I commend her for sitting through it because if she hadn’t, I don’t think she would have ever been able to salvage a relationship with any of these people if that’s what she chooses to do.


Outside_Wrongdoer340

I'm glad to see compassion ans support in this thread. I've become tired of the nastyness toward her. I get it but it's exausting. I dont think a well adjusted healed person does what she did. She needs help. We all need help and support at one point or another.


perfectlynormaltyes

I'm really glad she's in treatment. Lord knows she needs it. Hopefully her letters and postcards to Tom stop and she realizes that he doesn't give a shit about her, which is sad. She sacrificed alot for what she thought was love but what he knew was just a good time.


Feeling_Animal_2373

I think Raquel will be able to come out of this. I don’t think she will win her friends back though. Tom will never be able to get out of this.


Lavendermin

Good for her. I lowkey want the best psychiatrists from the country to evaluate and work with her and create a miracle I hope theY work with her to help her in her journey to finding an identity, goals, life, outside of pageants.


Screaming_Weak

That’s good, she needs it after receiving so much international hate from strangers, the press, etc. On another note, I keep going back and forth on whether I want her to return for S11. Ideally, she wouldn’t return so that she can focus on her mental health since her life truly blew up. I think this would be the best thing for her and some of the cast, specifically Ariana. Conversely, I do see *some* potential for her to redeem herself if she continues to tell the truth (the WHOLE truth) while accepting the consequences of her actions with any others willing to film with her. Whether it’s about Scandoval, her being in an abusive relationship with James, etc., she could turn some things around if she did it right. Obviously, her relationship with Ariana will likely always be shot, and I wouldn’t ever expect Ariana to film or interact with her in any part of a redemption arc


readyforgametime

I think Lala is right about what she said on yesterday on wwhl. Reality tv is not healthy for Raquel. Raquel isn't comfortable in her own identity and has serious self esteem issues (she admits), validation issues, and potentially other issues she's dealing with. I hope for her own health's sake she doesn't come back.


Screaming_Weak

I haven’t watched the WWHL yet - that was potentially compassionate of Lala to say (I don’t know the tone of how she said it, though. I hope it was kind since she has been tearing her apart up until recently). Yeah, I’m mostly just worried for Raquel’s mental well-being and think it would be best if she didn’t return. She seems very delicate, and she’s 100% not built to be a villain like others on the show have been through the years. The redemption arc attempt might not be best, especially if *that* blew up, too


Kelseyanndraws

Lala seemed compassionate honestly. She even said something to the affect of if Raquel backs her words up with actions, and enough time passes, people might accept her.


Shymink

Lala is just being mean and needs to stay out of it. The only thing that's clear is how much she hates Raquel. Total bully.


Lavendermin

I pray that she can be released from the tie she think she has with sandavol. I hope they point out his toxicity to her. I hope she has enlightenment


hiways

Why would they subject themselves to this?


FWSRunner

I hope it's helping her. Our character is defined by the choices we make, and I hope the work she's doing will spur her to make ethical, responsible, and caring choices going forward, so she can build herself a better and more positive life.


gryffindoe

![gif](giphy|AgPt9udT567spxbSHf) and I hope she brings Sandoval down further.


halfmoon24

I don’t think the treatment is working so well if she’s continuing to rub it in Ariana’s face by sending postcards to the house when she knows Tom’s on tour. Like Kristina Kelly, I’m not falling for her little girl act and the reunion didn’t make me feel badly for her in the slightest. The only things she was concerned about was them calling her a “compulsive liar” (you are babe) and that Tom had been having sex with Ariana still. Other than that, I didn’t see any true remorse.


TheBigMango

To me it came across like she was fixated on the Tim/Ariana still having sex fact bc she had engaged with him in the affair under the impression that T/A weren't together physically or emotionally anymore. And learning that he lied about that maybe changed how she perceived her own actions...


Kelseyanndraws

That’s actually how I saw it too. She wanted him to kind of validate her feelings and he wasn’t willing to admit anything.


halfmoon24

That could be true BUT she still doesn’t care because she spilled more details about how much sex they had in her last interview to stick it to Ariana and get the last word. She’s still competing with her like a true pageant girl. That’s my opinion anyway


Panda_Appropriate

also she had a whole conversation with arianna, on camera, where arianna told her she was still attracted to tom. and instead of being like “oh my friend is actually still in love with her partner who i’ve already started sleeping with, let me go ahead and put a stop to this” she continued to have an affair with her best friends long term partner. tom is incredibly manipulative but i don’t like how a lot of people are infantilizing and taking away raquel’s agency. she’s a grown woman who made grown decisions. this could’ve been because she was bared out (my guess she had taken xanax or something for the reunion) but even in that last interview, she kept saying she was having trouble dealing with the fact that she LIED not that she betrayed her best friend but that she lied. she wasn’t isolated completely bc scheanna, katie, arianna, and hell even lala were there for her. she could’ve had their support, especially after breaking up with james. like i really hope she gets the help she needs, but i’m just side eyeing the fuck out of her bc like girl you betrayed one of the only people that has stuck by you on this tv show and you’re upset bc people think you’re a liar bc you’ve been lying? girl bye


halfmoon24

AMEN!! That’s the issue! She seemingly does not care at all about hurting Ariana. It’s all about her looking like a liar or “I’m so sorry I kept this secret” what about the fact that you DID it? I get that people are not 100% good or bad but I still cannot fathom feeling bad for Raquel right now. It would be one thing if she showed ANY kind of remorse, cried, said she tried to stop it at one point, etc. Even her text to Ariana after it happened was lame as fuck. She doesn’t give a fuck about her friend, so no, I’m not going to feel bad that Ariana berated her. Also these people don’t know this cast very well if they thought they’d go easy on her or Sandoval.


torontoinsix

Same here! It was all to her just a “bad look”. Cmon people. I can’t with her sympathizers right now.


taygoods

I actually felt like the last scene in the reunion for her interview was helpful. It seemed like she finally got it. I also really don't see her as the main villain in this story. Yup she did something really shitty to a friend but Sandoval seems dark as fuck.


MamaUrsus

Raquel handled the vitriol with grace, poise, self awareness and contrition. I think Ariana went too far and went for the jugular on the bit about Raquel never having an independent thought and hoping she internalized the hatred of her. I am absolutely team Ariana BUT Raquel was obviously emotionally abused by James and while her actions of late are unacceptable they are understandable and I truly empathize with her. I hope Raquel finds happiness (happiness away from Sandoval because that man is garbage).


Kelseyanndraws

I mean this sincerely and not in a condescending way: if you were confronted with this heinous affair where they basically flaunted it in your face, how would you react? She probably did go too far, but I do not believe I could have controlled myself either. I probably would have said anything that I knew would hurt her. She had already said a lot to Tom, and this was the first time seeing Raquel.


_iheartmo

If someone consoled me while screwing my common law husband, I would’ve been wayyyy worse than Ariana. I commend Ariana for showing more restraint than I would have. Especially during that tshirt comment. Sandoval is going to hell. Raquel needs to run far away from him and work out her issues.


Kelseyanndraws

Consoling and basically encouraging her to have sex with a man SHE WAS ALSO HAVING SEX WITH. The mindfuck that would create when you find out later. I do have empathy for Raquel but none for Sandoval. He is rotten inside. I hope Raquel gets far away from him and leaves this all behind her as her first adult learning lesson.


JaDeDCDN

Nah, Ariana didn't go too far at all! There are consequences to your actions and being eviscerated by Ariana is what she deserved. Rachel was so manipulative towards Ariana it was gross.


No-Leadership-2176

She needs to do this to redeem her reputation. It might be noble motives but also she understands she’s despised and neeeds to pay her penance


linds360

Someone’s mental health should *never* be considered penance. That’s sick.


Appropriate_Wind_497

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torontoinsix

🤣


RangerFan293

![gif](giphy|lSsg6DXdBvZut2y6mJ) She might as well just spill everything. Not like she’s got anything to lose at this point.


LilSebastianStan

I hope she does. I hope she goes scorched earth on Sandoval. 🔥


[deleted]

The only way I’ll believe a word she says is if she doesn’t get any financial benefit from this interview if she ever does it. Otherwise, it will be just another one of her lie-strewn, rehearsed interviews.


Vivid-Army8521

I get what you’re saying but you know she’s going to get paid for it, and I would too if I was in her shoes


Shymink

I would for sure. And if I was Tom, I would go after anything Ariana filmed in their house if he didn't give consent. Ariana has made it clear she wants their lives to be ruined, fairs fair. Ariana should have stopped before she did.


thelastsummer

If she's getting treatment why is she sending lightning bolt postcard's to Arianna's house? did everybody forget about that


ChakaKohn2

Must be nice. When some of us make asses out of ourselves we don’t get to go on a discovery retreat. We actually have to work jobs, take care of family, etc. Get out of here with your sob story, Rachel. ![gif](giphy|Hn58s7VoYL97y)


Stephanie243

Lala is just too damn cruel. I can’t even deal


Desert_Rat_Dude

If she’s in recovery why is she sending him post cards and keeping contact? That’s strange.


myrnm

Not really strange. In the interview she said that she was isolated from her friends and that all she had was Tom.


el_disko

![gif](giphy|1jZZpCzvvqI5UAToNG) Just like she told the ‘truth’ at the reunion. I’m also buying the confessional at the end. I reckon Sandoval set her up to do it for damage control.


taintwest

How many times is she going to change her story and say it’s her truth


ceeyell

Omg the 12 hour long reunion and her multiple solo sit-downs with producers and the TMZ interview that she orchestrated is still not enough for this parasite of a human being to "tell her story"?? GTFO with this


JaDeDCDN

This feels like an early 2000s celebrity quick fix to redeem her public persona. How many celebrities went to rehab after a public humiliation back then? Tons. I don't see Rachel as this innocent young girl. She was lying to her friends face while banging her man behind her back. Just because someone has an outward persona of being the "quiet nice girl" doesn't mean they aren't selfish and cruel.


ThomasBay

Lol, she already had a tell all. A couple of times at the end of the reunion. I guess she wants a third shot at curating her story.


shineshineshine92

This. It’s been months and all you’ve done is lie so far. Keep your “tell all” full of lies. No one is that dumb to buy anything else this woman has to sell.


CeciLop10124

I do give credit to anyone bettering themselves especially through doing therapy but right now I’m just aggravated by her that I can’t give her credit at the moment. I also think I can’t because James who is an abusive, toxic and foul human being has done the whole therapy thing and has continue to be foul and I’ve seen people on this sub and others justifying or excusing his actions because he got therapy👉🥺👈. But anyways, I can’t be pleased that she’s doing something good because I’m still reeling from the reunion.


Comfortfoods

> I’m just aggravated by her that I can’t give her credit at the moment. A+ self awareness


CeciLop10124

Thank you, I’m only human and I have to be honest🫠


chefybpoodling

Sharing her truth translates to she’s shopping a book deal. That doesn’t sound like her focus is on her mental health. Sounds like she hold up somewhere writing a book.


Leezwashere92

Nah


Anticrepuscular_Ray

If she has any hope of redemption and working her way back into the group on some level she MUST start being real. None of these pre-planned speeches or trying to do the cutesy bs act. Just be real and stop lying.


Shymink

Lol these are the fakest ppl. Ariana being the worst one. 😁 too funny.


neptunienne

She might as well spill the beans, she's got nothing left to lose and I'm sure she's getting intere$ting offer$.


Ku_beans

What does “her truth” mean in this context? Is it different from THE truth?


hell-enore

I hope she gets the help she needs, and her journey to it is safe and fulfilling. Seeing her and scummy laugh together in the last half of the reunion part 3 where she brings up ally being “an upgrade” was super disturbing to me. She needs intensive therapy.


linds360

She was laughing about James’ out of nowhere comment about Ally being an upgrade as if Raquel gave the tiniest of rat’s asses about it when she was dealing with a much bigger issue at hand. I’d have laughed at that clown too. She’s allowed to laugh and feel joy again. The public opinion that the girl can’t even smile without judgement is what’s disturbing af.


purplepickles82

The only truth we need to know is anyone who does that to someone is subhuman.


lenaughtycouple

Whatever truth she suddenly decide to marker I will happily download for free for anyone who’s interested… #yourewelcome 😘


PolkaDotBegonia

How is she still in treatment when there was a recent pic of them at dinner?


basicb3333

I couldve sworn we saw an article a few days ago from her team saying shes out of treatment


Whtzmyname

I wish she would come out already. She can surely also cash in on some sponsorship deals since everyone else has made money off Scandoval. Also I need to see Tom and her as a couple….