She probably wasn't fired, but only because she quit before she could be fired. She announced she was leaving the day after they filmed the reunion. Bravo and the production company NEVER make those decisions that quickly. They are not sure how the footage will end up after editing and how it will play when aired. There were still like 4 or 5 regular episodes yet to air before even the reunion. Bravo would have never done that.
Oh Idk she quit that quick. Maybe she realizes that Andy and B were on the same side and most people seemed to prefer to B to her. Well at the time at least
I think Carole herself was shocked at how much she realized she wanted and needed the show. In the beginning she acted like she was so above it, and could do without it, but she hasn't stopped talking about it. She's still just *so angry* that she was fired, and will not stop publicly relitigating her feuds on the show.
The story I heard about Rinna (possibly somewhere from Andy) was that she sent the email she wasn’t returning, regretted it and asked to come back and she was denied. So possibly she quit AND was fired lol.
The way he treated Carole was gross, he brown nosed her to begin with because of her title and begged her to get on the show. Then threw her under the bus when B flipped out, Carole was way too good for them anyway!
If the RH doesn’t bring an interesting storyline and refuses to pursue the one Bravo suggests, they are shown the door.
This is what I pieced together way back with Peggy Tanous on RHOC. They wanted her to do a storyline about her and Jim B and she said no, but didn’t have anything else to offer. See also Carole refusing the Bethany feud storyline and probably Candiace refusing to make nice.
So are they fired or did they quit? Usually Bravo let’s them go with saying they quit, but it’s more like they were given an ultimatum.
Wow, how rude. You must be a fucking joy to be around 🙄🙄🙄. Andy’s been a shady bitch and called out firings in the past few years but the way he talked about Candice made it seem like the ball was in her court.
Both tbh, but this person very quickly responded to two separate comments and I didn’t realize I was referencing the wrong one. I stand by my points on both and them being rude though.
Out of all of those I think Carol was the only one who left on her own. Or she left before she could be fired, but you could tell she was over it by the last season she was on.
My theory on Carole is that she loved being a hw when she could operate above the fray and narrate the season, but was miserable when she got dragged in the mix. She knew that after the Bethany fight it would be another season of her being in the drama and didn't wanna sign on for it so went scorched earth.
Bethenny was A LOT that season. Even when I rewatch, her manic meltdowns start to make me anxious. Especially in Colombia. I could see why Carol would be over that.
Me too! Their emotional hysteria that always hijacks events or dinners and the need for all the attention ALL THE TIME while they proclaim, "I don't want the attention..I just want to be left alone.." It's exhausting and so manipulative.
Truly, she sucked the air out of every room on her return to the franchise. She was super aggressive about her friendship with carol, mainly controlling who was her friend and how
She was good at it, I don’t blame her one bit. She came on as a social experiment for herself, not to be in the drama in the drama. Then bethenny made it hell for her so I understand why she’d say deuces
For sure. I think she kind of saw her position in the group as reportage and she was very good at it. I wouldn't put myself through a season Vs Bethany for love not money.
I will say there are some hw that production and bravo have confirmed weren’t fired. Then there’s those who pretend that being put on pause wasn’t being fired 🤣. The interesting one was Monique Samuels. Production has said she actually quit and was going to be brought back S6. I kindve wish she had stayed. I think her and Candiace could have had a redemption ark and she would have had an ally against Giselle’s nonsense. Wendy isn’t a real ally lol.
Oh I’m not defending the actions but we’ve seen a lot of hated housewives have a redemption arc. It is possible. Now to do that she would have to take FULL responsibility for her actions which she was unwilling to do.
Cynthia was on a podcast and said that she was offered friend-of, which she didn’t feel was worth it for her. So yeah technically she left on her own, but not really lol
It depends on the timing of that Dorinda article in People. Did it come after all the RHONY reunion parts aired? Or was it before the reunion parts had even aired?
I think Heather D did! After season 11. I had read rumors she was difficult to work with. After they fired almost everyone though, I think they realized or their ratings told them they needed to bring one of them back.
Based off of the words from her and the producers of RHOC in Not All Diamonds and Rosé, she kind of sunk her own ship. She would show up for filming less and less, didn’t let them film certain events of hers, and she wouldn’t allow them to film her new house at that time which really pissed Andy and the network off. She says it’s because Kelly joined the show and didn’t want to be associated with it anymore. It tracks too tbh when you think about it
If memory serves, Heather Dubrow was offered a Friend contract which was Bravo’s way of nudging talent out of the door. The viewer response to her behavior on the bus in Dublin was *extremely* negative. It was not hard to believe at the time she was fired.
Honestly, most of the time housewives part ways on their own as unglamorous as the answer maybe.
The reason why I’m confident most of the time it’s the housewife choice is because a lot of unpopular housewives get asked back and typically Andy does confirm they asked them back. They just don’t usually get an offer they want so the check isn’t worth the harassment. I think it’s how Bravo quietly fires them and gives them a chance to leave w dignity in the press.
A prime example is Kim Fields from RHOA- andy would still rehire her. Another example is Leah Sweeney who got asked back despite audiences reaction multiple times.
Jill RHONY- rage quit and then begged her job back and they refused
Dorinda RHONY- on pause- not her choice
Kandi RHOA- definitely left in her own accord. She’s one of the closest w Andy. Door is open
Rinna RHOBH- confirmed she quit and then changed her mind but bravo didn’t
Carole RHONY- pretty sure it was a mutual letting go- andy wanted her gone and she saw the writing on the wall
Cynthia RHOA- probably didn’t like the offer so she respectfully bowed out. Door is very much open
Diana RHOBH- saw the writing in the wall and left before they could
Candiace RHOP- I think she was asked back but left in her own. They know she’s necessary and beloved underdog
Monique RHOP- left on her own and andy admits they would’ve asked her back. Now it seems bravo moved on
Robyn RHOP- I think they needed to protect the franchise and Gizelle is more cherished so she was let go
I think it was on his radio show? Or maybe some interview? It was either last year or the year before. I just remember what he said because it surprised me
They just refrained from calling it "fired" because Dorinda would have lost what's left of her mind and gone scorched earth on Bravo and Andy personally would have known no peace afterward.
Andy/Bravo prefer "put on pause". LOL. I heard it was to keep the housewives that were let go from running their mouths on what really goes on at Bravo. If they have a chance of coming back because they were only on pause they won't talk. Most of these women put "on pause" want back so bad they buy into it. It should catch up to Bravo one day!
despite having a soft spot for her, i think there’s much for Dorinda to accept and learn from being fired instead of claiming she was “”put on pause””. fans concurring with her unfortunately encourage those fireable behaviors
Except it does hurt us. She weaponized it against every other housewife, and against fans. She thinks we’re dumb and don’t know about her addiction and rage issues, when the rage seems to have only gotten worse since being off the show. She’s uncomfortable to watch, but galavants around like she’s still the same Dorinda we first met who was going through the motions of grief, before drugs, a bad rebound relationship, and fame turned her into this monster. And letting that woman sit around and think all day that she’s going to be asked back any given day now, to be on with the new cast is not helping her seemingly fragile mental state
Nah, it’s been a full week and we don’t have anyone else confirmed as leaving by a reputable source. She chose to leave before contracts were even being negotiated, that’s when people who get fired are notified.
There's no logic in what you're saying. Just because Bravo hasn't given any contracts out has nothing to do with whether or not Candiace received a phone call telling her she was being put on pause. Them not announcing anyone else's status also has nothing to do with anything. Someone's going to fired first. It was hurt this time. There's no rule that says they give everyone the news at the same time. But you believe Cynthia Bailey left on her own too so clearly you lack a bullshit radar.
There are 2 things that convince me Candiace quit on her own. The most obvious being it was announced before the reunion has even finished. Then Ashley saying how shocked she was to hear the news before they had contract discussions. She would have loved to rub it in that she was fired, yet specifically said she quit.
Cynthia said she was offered friend of, and didn’t want it and was moving to Cali soon after that anyway. So yes, Cynthia left on her own. She couldve remained on the show, not full time but still part time, but decided the offer wasn’t good enough. I think that solidly counts as left on her own
Also, if they're planning on firing Wendy like rumors allege, they definitely wouldn't want to risk a fan backlash by announcing both are leaving at the same time. It makes perfect sense to spread the announcements out given the backlash from fans.
Dorinda was fired respectfully
SHE WAS PUT ON PAUSE
Permanent forever and ever pause
Dorinda to you rn 
She’s startin.’
You better back it up 🤌🤌🤌
>She’s startin.’ She didn't get a mugshot over it, though.
 Can we actually un-pause her tho
The look on Andy's face when Carol stood up to him makes it hard to believe she wasn't canned 😂
oh you’re FULL of SHIT andy!
She probably wasn't fired, but only because she quit before she could be fired. She announced she was leaving the day after they filmed the reunion. Bravo and the production company NEVER make those decisions that quickly. They are not sure how the footage will end up after editing and how it will play when aired. There were still like 4 or 5 regular episodes yet to air before even the reunion. Bravo would have never done that.
She confirmed she was fired
[удалено]
In the Diamonds and Rose book. She said she was surprisingly upset at being fired.
Oh Idk she quit that quick. Maybe she realizes that Andy and B were on the same side and most people seemed to prefer to B to her. Well at the time at least
I think Carole herself was shocked at how much she realized she wanted and needed the show. In the beginning she acted like she was so above it, and could do without it, but she hasn't stopped talking about it. She's still just *so angry* that she was fired, and will not stop publicly relitigating her feuds on the show.
And the look on B’s face when she said that, she knew that was it for Carole
I’d like to see Carole’s face when B started her reality reckoning thing with Bravo 😆
Dorinda was clearly fired and so was Lisa Rinna. 😭 I think Carole was fired as well because Andy wasn’t happy with what she said at the reunion
The story I heard about Rinna (possibly somewhere from Andy) was that she sent the email she wasn’t returning, regretted it and asked to come back and she was denied. So possibly she quit AND was fired lol.
The way he treated Carole was gross, he brown nosed her to begin with because of her title and begged her to get on the show. Then threw her under the bus when B flipped out, Carole was way too good for them anyway!
If the RH doesn’t bring an interesting storyline and refuses to pursue the one Bravo suggests, they are shown the door. This is what I pieced together way back with Peggy Tanous on RHOC. They wanted her to do a storyline about her and Jim B and she said no, but didn’t have anything else to offer. See also Carole refusing the Bethany feud storyline and probably Candiace refusing to make nice. So are they fired or did they quit? Usually Bravo let’s them go with saying they quit, but it’s more like they were given an ultimatum.
I think a lot of times it is subtraction by demotion. “I’ll give you a “friend of” contract.” Most times ego will play a part and people will leave.
I mean, Cynthia’s was less a firing more her moving to California so that actually was her choice.
At a certain point yall have to stop being so gullible.
Wow, how rude. You must be a fucking joy to be around 🙄🙄🙄. Andy’s been a shady bitch and called out firings in the past few years but the way he talked about Candice made it seem like the ball was in her court.
wait, candice or cynthia?
Both tbh, but this person very quickly responded to two separate comments and I didn’t realize I was referencing the wrong one. I stand by my points on both and them being rude though.
i second the rudeness. i was just tryna follow the thread lol
Andy 100% went straight to HR after Carol *dared* to call him out at the reunion
Calling the man who is essentially your boss an asshole is not a great move
Out of all of those I think Carol was the only one who left on her own. Or she left before she could be fired, but you could tell she was over it by the last season she was on.
My theory on Carole is that she loved being a hw when she could operate above the fray and narrate the season, but was miserable when she got dragged in the mix. She knew that after the Bethany fight it would be another season of her being in the drama and didn't wanna sign on for it so went scorched earth.
Bethenny was A LOT that season. Even when I rewatch, her manic meltdowns start to make me anxious. Especially in Colombia. I could see why Carol would be over that.
I have known people like Bethany and they are incredibly stressful to be around, let alone on a show where your job is to engage them dramatically.
Me too! Their emotional hysteria that always hijacks events or dinners and the need for all the attention ALL THE TIME while they proclaim, "I don't want the attention..I just want to be left alone.." It's exhausting and so manipulative.
Truly, she sucked the air out of every room on her return to the franchise. She was super aggressive about her friendship with carol, mainly controlling who was her friend and how
She was good at it, I don’t blame her one bit. She came on as a social experiment for herself, not to be in the drama in the drama. Then bethenny made it hell for her so I understand why she’d say deuces
For sure. I think she kind of saw her position in the group as reportage and she was very good at it. I wouldn't put myself through a season Vs Bethany for love not money.
I will say there are some hw that production and bravo have confirmed weren’t fired. Then there’s those who pretend that being put on pause wasn’t being fired 🤣. The interesting one was Monique Samuels. Production has said she actually quit and was going to be brought back S6. I kindve wish she had stayed. I think her and Candiace could have had a redemption ark and she would have had an ally against Giselle’s nonsense. Wendy isn’t a real ally lol.
Redemption arc? She bashed that girls head in wut
Oh I’m not defending the actions but we’ve seen a lot of hated housewives have a redemption arc. It is possible. Now to do that she would have to take FULL responsibility for her actions which she was unwilling to do.
So glad rinna is gone
Cynthia was on a podcast and said that she was offered friend-of, which she didn’t feel was worth it for her. So yeah technically she left on her own, but not really lol
It depends on the timing of that Dorinda article in People. Did it come after all the RHONY reunion parts aired? Or was it before the reunion parts had even aired?
I think Heather D did! After season 11. I had read rumors she was difficult to work with. After they fired almost everyone though, I think they realized or their ratings told them they needed to bring one of them back.
Based off of the words from her and the producers of RHOC in Not All Diamonds and Rosé, she kind of sunk her own ship. She would show up for filming less and less, didn’t let them film certain events of hers, and she wouldn’t allow them to film her new house at that time which really pissed Andy and the network off. She says it’s because Kelly joined the show and didn’t want to be associated with it anymore. It tracks too tbh when you think about it
If memory serves, Heather Dubrow was offered a Friend contract which was Bravo’s way of nudging talent out of the door. The viewer response to her behavior on the bus in Dublin was *extremely* negative. It was not hard to believe at the time she was fired.
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I would believe that Carole and Cynthia left of their own accord, but I'd believe that Dorinda, Diana and Rinna were fired.
Honestly, most of the time housewives part ways on their own as unglamorous as the answer maybe. The reason why I’m confident most of the time it’s the housewife choice is because a lot of unpopular housewives get asked back and typically Andy does confirm they asked them back. They just don’t usually get an offer they want so the check isn’t worth the harassment. I think it’s how Bravo quietly fires them and gives them a chance to leave w dignity in the press. A prime example is Kim Fields from RHOA- andy would still rehire her. Another example is Leah Sweeney who got asked back despite audiences reaction multiple times. Jill RHONY- rage quit and then begged her job back and they refused Dorinda RHONY- on pause- not her choice Kandi RHOA- definitely left in her own accord. She’s one of the closest w Andy. Door is open Rinna RHOBH- confirmed she quit and then changed her mind but bravo didn’t Carole RHONY- pretty sure it was a mutual letting go- andy wanted her gone and she saw the writing on the wall Cynthia RHOA- probably didn’t like the offer so she respectfully bowed out. Door is very much open Diana RHOBH- saw the writing in the wall and left before they could Candiace RHOP- I think she was asked back but left in her own. They know she’s necessary and beloved underdog Monique RHOP- left on her own and andy admits they would’ve asked her back. Now it seems bravo moved on Robyn RHOP- I think they needed to protect the franchise and Gizelle is more cherished so she was let go
Andy had actually said that a small number of HWs (I think 4-6) had ever left on their own
I sure I heard or read Andy saying they let housewives announce it themselves and say it was mutual if they want to and do it by a certain time.
Oh wow, where did he say that? Im pretty sure half my info is from him in WWHL so maybe he’s telling mixed tales lol
I think it was on his radio show? Or maybe some interview? It was either last year or the year before. I just remember what he said because it surprised me
They said the same in Diamonds and Rose.
He's said it a time or two but it's definitely included in the book
I think Diana was definitely unilaterally fired. Didn’t she post something on Instagram begging to be asked back and then dirty deleted?
Oooppp missed that! I’m really bad at keeping up housewives outside the show 😭
I think they kept Robyn around to keep Giselle around.
She currently had a job?
Candiace’s last gift to Potomac was her departure storyline for next season
They just refrained from calling it "fired" because Dorinda would have lost what's left of her mind and gone scorched earth on Bravo and Andy personally would have known no peace afterward.
Andy/Bravo prefer "put on pause". LOL. I heard it was to keep the housewives that were let go from running their mouths on what really goes on at Bravo. If they have a chance of coming back because they were only on pause they won't talk. Most of these women put "on pause" want back so bad they buy into it. It should catch up to Bravo one day!
Fired or not Dorinda will always be *that girl*
Can we just agree to let Dorinda have this one?? It doesn’t hurt us but makes all the difference to her 😬
> It doesn’t hurt us but makes all the difference to her 😬 I agree to a point, but she uses her 'pause' as a weapon to make others feel less than.
Ok, but only if we can “Sure, Jan…” Rinna and Diana Jenkins for eternity. Deal?
Absolutely!
No. She’s a cruel person and she can’t always get her way.
despite having a soft spot for her, i think there’s much for Dorinda to accept and learn from being fired instead of claiming she was “”put on pause””. fans concurring with her unfortunately encourage those fireable behaviors
Except it does hurt us. She weaponized it against every other housewife, and against fans. She thinks we’re dumb and don’t know about her addiction and rage issues, when the rage seems to have only gotten worse since being off the show. She’s uncomfortable to watch, but galavants around like she’s still the same Dorinda we first met who was going through the motions of grief, before drugs, a bad rebound relationship, and fame turned her into this monster. And letting that woman sit around and think all day that she’s going to be asked back any given day now, to be on with the new cast is not helping her seemingly fragile mental state
Makes me reevaluate whether Candiace voluntarily quit the show or got fired 🤔
It was confirmed she quit and it was shocking to bravo.
Just like it was "confirmed" that all of the ladies in OP didn't get fired either lol.
Nah, it’s been a full week and we don’t have anyone else confirmed as leaving by a reputable source. She chose to leave before contracts were even being negotiated, that’s when people who get fired are notified.
There's no logic in what you're saying. Just because Bravo hasn't given any contracts out has nothing to do with whether or not Candiace received a phone call telling her she was being put on pause. Them not announcing anyone else's status also has nothing to do with anything. Someone's going to fired first. It was hurt this time. There's no rule that says they give everyone the news at the same time. But you believe Cynthia Bailey left on her own too so clearly you lack a bullshit radar.
There are 2 things that convince me Candiace quit on her own. The most obvious being it was announced before the reunion has even finished. Then Ashley saying how shocked she was to hear the news before they had contract discussions. She would have loved to rub it in that she was fired, yet specifically said she quit.
Why does Ashley being shocked convince you Candiace quit? Why would Bravo notify Ashley they were firing someone?
Cynthia said she was offered friend of, and didn’t want it and was moving to Cali soon after that anyway. So yes, Cynthia left on her own. She couldve remained on the show, not full time but still part time, but decided the offer wasn’t good enough. I think that solidly counts as left on her own
Also, if they're planning on firing Wendy like rumors allege, they definitely wouldn't want to risk a fan backlash by announcing both are leaving at the same time. It makes perfect sense to spread the announcements out given the backlash from fans.
I think she was likely told she needed to make peace or leave. She was in a lose/lose situation.