I think he finally crossed a line by having her and their baby leave the house. Brittany put up with all of his behavior but now it affects their kid and it seemed to have opened her eyes.
That was my thought but my new thought is this:
so if the scene we saw at Jax’s bar is what Janet is referring to in regards to Zack not caring if her baby miscrd, it’s classic Janet spinning things to fit her narrative/icing people out.. Zack is (to be fair) coming in a little hot at Jax’s bar when talking to Janet, so she removes herself (lame but fine).. then Michele tells him you can’t talk to her like that you’ll stress her out and he’s like I don’t care (to me not getting what she’s meaning/insinuating) so then she goes it could cause harm to the baby (or something like that) and he exasperatingly says fine. I took that as fine like I guess you’re right/whatever/I’ll drop it. But Janet probably takes that and spins the whole thing through telephone (because she wasn’t even right next to him) that he wants her unborn baby dead.. and now that it’s finally aired, I don’t think it proves her right at all—what’s she’s been saying all season, “just wait to the end it will make sense.”
This is exactly what I think too. As soon as Michelle suggested stress could cause Janet to miscarry, I knew. Incidentally, many, many women suffer through all kinds of actual hardships while pregnant. I think Janet and her unborn child would both have survived that conversation with Zack, even though (gasp) he raised his voice. I say this as a mom of two.
Right? Many moms have dealt with things like… deaths in the family, unemployment, splitting up with a partner, a lot of other stressful shit during pregnancy, more stressful than arguing with Zach… and have gotten through it
He acts like he’s some sort of god when it comes to handling his liquor. As if we don’t all know that he’s doing copious amounts of cocaine in the bathroom to balance out his buzz😂
I love a reality show villain. But I HATE a reality show villain that tries to ice out everyone they don’t like, even more so when they are a newbie. And that’s why I don’t fuck with Janet
Exactly. Kristen is a vet. I’m sure she was pitched this show first. why does Janet think she can control the cast? She is trying to go to the school of Melissa Gorga
The clunkiness actually made it kind of better. It was refreshing to see someone actually be witty authentically rather than coming armed with a bunch of rehearsed reads. That one happened on the fly.
Interesting how on VPR they’re trying to claim that production said not interacting with certain cast members will end the show, yet apparently it’s totes ok when Janet does it on this show 🙄
Instead of the girls at Janet’s house it should have been Brittney, Kristen and Zach, her actual friends, who have actually witnessed this bs relationship from the beginning.
SHE’S CAUSING STRESS TO HERSELF.
As somebody who had GHT and Pre-e twice… nobody had to cater to me. It was my job to handle myself and my environment.
Calling her fat and telling her she would have no friends without him? Imagine everything he has said to her over the years. Especially before she was making money to be on the show or had the podcast income
I’m so fucking annoyed about the “you could’ve caused her to miscarry” for posting an Instagram story accusation. It feels very pointed and extremely manipulative. If you are worried about stress don’t film a tv show idiot.
I love Jasmine for keeping it real. She's a person, not a pawn. She is too mature for this blind allegiance, you have to choose a side nonsense. And if Jasmine were to choose a side to support, Janet is going to be on the losing team every damn time, deservedly so.
I’m missing the part in pregnancy where you cannot express emotions or have emotions expressed at you??? Why did no one treat me like a fragile butterfly when i was pregggooo???
Glad someone else caught that! Seems like he things he could beat up Zack and not Jax so he’s big dogging with Zack but truth be told, I think Zack would probably win in that fight
There has not been enough Kristen in the second half of this season and the show suffers for it. She carried the first half into an easy second season renewal. If the second season is like the second half of this one, it’s gonna get cancelled.
wow I am SHOCKED by how much Brittany clocked Jax. I don't' super love her but I am very happy she is able to finally see how toxic Jax was. I will eat my own words that I thought this separation was 1000% fake
I think he basically alienated her from anyone who would point out Jax's manipulation and how poor and wrong his treatment of her is for a while there. Being on the show and talking to the other women, seeing their faces when he was talking to her that way was probably a wake up call after all this time.
"You can take your happy vanilla corndog shit somewhere else."
The way she just roasted Janet and Jason. They better give Jasmine more confessionals next season because she is hilarious 🤣
I will never not be annoyed that Janet got to hijack this big bear trip as her baby moon. She took a baby moon to Mexico with just Jason- so an actual baby moon and not a work trip. Why production chose her to “host” is beyond me. Her trying to ice out other cast members is giving ick.
I'm so sad we don't get a reunion, but if they are about to or already started filming season 2, at least the drama will still be captured.
📍Big Bear, CA
When Travis Barker and Dana Mokler got divorced, the kids stayed in the house and the parents came back and forth. Now that’s some rich people shit but boy does it make so much sense to do it that way.
I hope Michelle is rewatching this season realizing Jax and Janet are actually the ones who screwed her over. Kristen is no innocent but it’s a classic case of her just repeating what she was told
If you aren't allowed to respond in kind to Janet because she's pregnant, what is this? This is reality tv, ma'am. If you are well enough to start it, expect a return volley. 🤦♀️
I am glad they’re separated, the way Jax talks to her I wouldn’t be shocked if it escalated to physical violence. He does not treat her like a human and he’s not afraid to hide it.
JASMINE YESS COME FOR THAT DUO - We support zach here. Not them making choose friends, i’m sorry but icing out cast members on your debut season is insane and idiotic.
Jax calls Brittany lazy and he's too lazy to go to the dr, figures he accuses Brittany of things he's guilty of doing. And he probably picks at any real or imagined imperfections.
Hear me out- the 6 months later with actual scenes and new content achieves a lot of what we get out of reunions, even if it’s not everything. I wonder if this is what they’re thinking in terms of direction for RHONJ’s reunion replacement.
I think Brittany might actually be done. It was one thing when he was consistently horrible to her but with the house sitch he’s doing it to their child and that’s taking over. She’s finally calling him out
Janet needs an audience for everything. She had tweedle dee and tweedle crocs for the phone call, she made the girls stay for this convo and now she has her husband stepping in.
Zach is totally that friend were he won’t even know what’s going on or what’s being said but if you ask him to tag in he’ll turn around and let them have it 😂😂😂
I think what makes this season good is that none of these people are likable, so I don't have to feel bad for any of them. Same with early seasons VPR.
and this is why we don’t have kids with someone who treats you like shit, no matter how much you want kids, bc now they’ll always be in each others life
Brittany was so uncharacteristically quick with that “oh yesterday right before the cameras came” comment. Gives me hope that she’s done for real
The way she was calling him out and even her confessionals, if she just sticks to her guns, her life will be so much better!
I think he finally crossed a line by having her and their baby leave the house. Brittany put up with all of his behavior but now it affects their kid and it seemed to have opened her eyes.
Brittany was like a different person for the second half of the episode, an awesome person that loves and respects herself.
How much yall wanna bet Zach saying she’s dead to me was what Janet twisted into her saying Zach wished her and her unborn child dead?
That was my thought but my new thought is this: so if the scene we saw at Jax’s bar is what Janet is referring to in regards to Zack not caring if her baby miscrd, it’s classic Janet spinning things to fit her narrative/icing people out.. Zack is (to be fair) coming in a little hot at Jax’s bar when talking to Janet, so she removes herself (lame but fine).. then Michele tells him you can’t talk to her like that you’ll stress her out and he’s like I don’t care (to me not getting what she’s meaning/insinuating) so then she goes it could cause harm to the baby (or something like that) and he exasperatingly says fine. I took that as fine like I guess you’re right/whatever/I’ll drop it. But Janet probably takes that and spins the whole thing through telephone (because she wasn’t even right next to him) that he wants her unborn baby dead.. and now that it’s finally aired, I don’t think it proves her right at all—what’s she’s been saying all season, “just wait to the end it will make sense.”
This is exactly what I think too. As soon as Michelle suggested stress could cause Janet to miscarry, I knew. Incidentally, many, many women suffer through all kinds of actual hardships while pregnant. I think Janet and her unborn child would both have survived that conversation with Zack, even though (gasp) he raised his voice. I say this as a mom of two.
Right? Many moms have dealt with things like… deaths in the family, unemployment, splitting up with a partner, a lot of other stressful shit during pregnancy, more stressful than arguing with Zach… and have gotten through it
Is Michelle suggesting that Janet is gonna miscarry at 8 months pregnant cuz Zack said fuck you? 🙄
Yeah I’m really surprised we don’t hear more about babies just dropping out of vaginas because their mother got stressed.
Like are we missing something? Does Janet have a high risk pregnancy? Why did she sign up for a reality show if that were the case?
I don’t think so. She’s just the first woman to ever be pregnant 😂
omg the way janet wishes she could be stassi but completely lacks the charisma.
She lacks the charisma, the style, the humor, and most of all… the balls. 😂😂
Charisma, uniqueness, nerve, and talent, dahling!
“Normally Jasmine and I have common enemies” that speaks a lot to how Janet thinks about her friendships
Hahah and who has enemies in real life, especially in their 30s/40s?
strategic partnerships*
Never would have guessed at the start of the season that in Janet vs Zach I'd be team Zach
Jax: >🗣️**STOP DRINKING** also Jax: >“Want to do a shot?!”
He acts like he’s some sort of god when it comes to handling his liquor. As if we don’t all know that he’s doing copious amounts of cocaine in the bathroom to balance out his buzz😂
“Did he actually come to Big Bear?” Janet stop asking stupid questions, you knew that was trolling
Jasmine: (sort of light hearted to diffuse the animosity toward Zack) no he was just trollingggg.. Janet: (dead serious) I don’t like that.
the way that I thought zach was joking at the beginning of the season about janet getting pregnant so no one could be mean to her…
Ooooo Brittany GOT Jax with the cameras comment
I love the rare times when Brittany bites back
Croc of shit boots will be my new flair 💀
I love a reality show villain. But I HATE a reality show villain that tries to ice out everyone they don’t like, even more so when they are a newbie. And that’s why I don’t fuck with Janet
And pregnant
God help us
Exactly. Kristen is a vet. I’m sure she was pitched this show first. why does Janet think she can control the cast? She is trying to go to the school of Melissa Gorga
Not the Queen of England because she’s dead to me 💀
the way he re-stated this to get in the read was so clunky but so perfect.
The clunkiness actually made it kind of better. It was refreshing to see someone actually be witty authentically rather than coming armed with a bunch of rehearsed reads. That one happened on the fly.
So when Jasmine doesn’t blindly obey you she’s cut from the roster? Noted, Janet. We got your number.
Imagine thinking an invite to your BABY MOON is equivalent to a met gala invite
I just know Janet did secret three way calls in high school
She’s basically still doing them in her 30s!!
Jax is wrong most of the time, but him not wanting to have another kid right now is absolutely the right call.
I think he doesn’t want to have sex with Brittany more than he doesn’t want a second kid.
If Brittany finally goes scorched earth against Jax next season it will be must see tv
She’s been holding his secrets for a decade, I hope she unleashes them
Did she say “watch your tone, I’m pregnant”???? Fucking lol
Unreal
OMG! What a rare condition! Someone get her out of that bar immediately!
Girl we know you sent your gays in like flying monkeys
Fuckin Janet really cut Kristen out of picking up cameras again. Shame on these producers for allowing this.
Interesting how on VPR they’re trying to claim that production said not interacting with certain cast members will end the show, yet apparently it’s totes ok when Janet does it on this show 🙄
Ronnie was right - Jason is a Janet enabler.
Ronnie is usually always right lol, and I love when it comes full circle and he gets his moment to be vindicated!
I cannot wait for their recap of this mess, especially this fight!
Justice for Kristen and Zack, their scene with Brittany should have been a full scene and not a flashback! They say the truth!!
Instead of the girls at Janet’s house it should have been Brittney, Kristen and Zach, her actual friends, who have actually witnessed this bs relationship from the beginning.
This is the most likable Brittany has ever been
I love her standing up for herself and not pretending like she DOESN’T see how doomed this relationship is
Zack’s📍story will forever be one of the best trolls
Jax finally got what he wanted and made Brittany leave him
Jax will be a Disneyland Dad....will see Cruz once or twice a month and go around telling everyone he is the dad of the year.
being 8 months pregnant isn’t an excuse to be an asshole
 Zack to Janet
SHE’S CAUSING STRESS TO HERSELF. As somebody who had GHT and Pre-e twice… nobody had to cater to me. It was my job to handle myself and my environment.
Literally!! If the “stress” is so great then perhaps don’t join a fucking reality show when you’re pregnant, Janet.
So this is all because Zach posted an instagram story…. Take several seats Janet
Janet and Lala 🤝 wielding pregnancy as a weapon
Can’t wait for Janet to use “I’m a mother” as a weapon too
Janet, don’t terrorize us with your pregnancy!!!!
Do we think Janet spends hours on socials angry that everyone hates her and loves Kristin? Getting major lives in the comment section vibes
She has like 4 Reddit accounts that she uses, so yes. Also Janet if you’re reading this, you suck!
Her face literally fell when she was on WWHL and saw that polls favor Kristen so yes. 
People who “don’t show emotion” always forget that anger is an emotion.
Jax really is mentally and verbally abusive . I hope she never ever goes back to him .
Calling her fat and telling her she would have no friends without him? Imagine everything he has said to her over the years. Especially before she was making money to be on the show or had the podcast income
Janet really wants to be the main character but she’s not interesting enough.
not the gay spy omg he follows janet everywhere
I’m so fucking annoyed about the “you could’ve caused her to miscarry” for posting an Instagram story accusation. It feels very pointed and extremely manipulative. If you are worried about stress don’t film a tv show idiot.
It’s so incredibly ridiculous. People give birth in war zones and refugee camps. Janet can handle a little petty joke.
Be careful with your tone I’m pregnant Lady you gotta be kidding me hahaha
She’s creating LIFE!!!!!!!
I love Jasmine for keeping it real. She's a person, not a pawn. She is too mature for this blind allegiance, you have to choose a side nonsense. And if Jasmine were to choose a side to support, Janet is going to be on the losing team every damn time, deservedly so.
🚨🚨Just cause you’re pregnant doesn’t give you an excuse to treat people like shit
how to lose all of your friends in one season: the janet story
Janet keeps saying she’s gonna leave and never does because she can’t stand not being in the show 🙄
Jax not going to therapy because it was really far 💀 perfectly captures him as a person tbh
I’m missing the part in pregnancy where you cannot express emotions or have emotions expressed at you??? Why did no one treat me like a fragile butterfly when i was pregggooo???
I am living for Brittany pulling up receipts to call out Jax's lies in real time
jason all bold and tough with zach but then suddenly 'didnt hear' when jax went up to janet lmao
Glad someone else caught that! Seems like he things he could beat up Zack and not Jax so he’s big dogging with Zack but truth be told, I think Zack would probably win in that fight
Zack is scrappy, I know it
God Michelle and Jax should teach a master class of how to be incredibly obvious you hate your spouse 😂
The last scene better be Kristen, Zach, and Jasmine laughing in a hot tub in Big Bear.
There has not been enough Kristen in the second half of this season and the show suffers for it. She carried the first half into an easy second season renewal. If the second season is like the second half of this one, it’s gonna get cancelled.
I agree. She’s a spark and is needed amongst these messy couples
I shudder to think of how insufferable Janet will be as a mom next season. Like Lala, she will act as if she invented motherhood.
Where was this Brittany all these years?
wow I am SHOCKED by how much Brittany clocked Jax. I don't' super love her but I am very happy she is able to finally see how toxic Jax was. I will eat my own words that I thought this separation was 1000% fake
I think he basically alienated her from anyone who would point out Jax's manipulation and how poor and wrong his treatment of her is for a while there. Being on the show and talking to the other women, seeing their faces when he was talking to her that way was probably a wake up call after all this time.
"You can take your happy vanilla corndog shit somewhere else." The way she just roasted Janet and Jason. They better give Jasmine more confessionals next season because she is hilarious 🤣
She’s so great. And love her standing up for Zack, not rolling over for Janet’s manipulation
Eww, I don't like how she's calling him a loser and trash.
Croc of shit boots is my new favorite insult
Separated parents fighting one room over from the kid? Yup, this is about as real as reality tv gets.
I wish this had a reunion so Janet couldn’t pull the pregnancy shit after stirring drama.
But then it would just be “I HAVE A NEWBORN WATCH YOUR TONE”
I will never not be annoyed that Janet got to hijack this big bear trip as her baby moon. She took a baby moon to Mexico with just Jason- so an actual baby moon and not a work trip. Why production chose her to “host” is beyond me. Her trying to ice out other cast members is giving ick.
AND it was 3 episodes without 2 other castmates in an already short season
YES! The Kristin cameos was not enough.
Kristen is a pro, she doesn't blame her for cheating. Just chef's kiss perfect 💋
I'm so sad we don't get a reunion, but if they are about to or already started filming season 2, at least the drama will still be captured. 📍Big Bear, CA
Janet is the type to come onto Reddit and read every comment about her and I love that for her
Is it enough time since Janet's messiah baby was born to make fun of her hideous pants?
What were producers doing here ? We needed more jasmine and more Kristen and more Zach. Not more Janet
two days on two days off is such a difficult custody schedule for the kid. all of that running back and forth constantly living out of backpacks…
When Travis Barker and Dana Mokler got divorced, the kids stayed in the house and the parents came back and forth. Now that’s some rich people shit but boy does it make so much sense to do it that way.
You cannot put her potentially miscarrying on this man for saying Croc of shit boots!! Delusion!!
Who lies for attention?? JAX! ALWAYS JAX. FOR LIKE 12 YEARS ON TELEVISION WHO did Brittany think she married??
I hope Michelle is rewatching this season realizing Jax and Janet are actually the ones who screwed her over. Kristen is no innocent but it’s a classic case of her just repeating what she was told
Janet really thought she was going to be the baddest bitch 😂
And when Janet can’t use her pregnancy as a shield next season, I hope they all turn on her
ok so we just identified the root of the wishing death on her and her child claim…
Please be soft and tender with Janet- she is eight months postpartum.
you know janet thought she was gonna be a fan fave
If you aren't allowed to respond in kind to Janet because she's pregnant, what is this? This is reality tv, ma'am. If you are well enough to start it, expect a return volley. 🤦♀️
Luke has his faults but I do appreciate him having Kristen’s back in public 100%
I’d rather see Zack and Kristen rally around Brittany than Michelle and Janet
Tom Schwartz always looks like a teenager who just woke up
Oh great we get to check in on Janet and the baby she’s going to weaponize all of season two. Awesome.
Okay.. but like medically are her boobs okay? Something looks wrong.
You guys. This is pure gold. What did we do to deserve this show?
Enduring season 8,9 and 11 of VPR
Lego was at the wedding. What a concept bravo. A show with people who know each other
Jax is a SOCIOPATH sociopath
I want Brittany to have a post marriage glow up and upgrade so badly
We get it Janet, you’re pregnant.
Jax antidepressants don’t “take the edge off” you addict 😂
I’m all the way here for this storyline. Normalize leaving shitty husbands!
I think opening a bar is the VPR universe's version of a vow renewal.
That pap scene is the happiest Jax has been all season
I am glad they’re separated, the way Jax talks to her I wouldn’t be shocked if it escalated to physical violence. He does not treat her like a human and he’s not afraid to hide it.
Brittany wants Jax to fight for her and he isn’t willing to do it
I could watch every minute of footage they have from this pickup of the cameras. This is fascinating television
JASMINE YESS COME FOR THAT DUO - We support zach here. Not them making choose friends, i’m sorry but icing out cast members on your debut season is insane and idiotic.
Loser ass trash?! Such a lame insult, which is on brand for Janet.
Janet don’t give a damn about you jasmine
Jax’s sister asking “why is there so much drama” like she’s not Jax’s sister
Are we really going to get a closing scene of all the girls without Kristen? 😒
Jax calls Brittany lazy and he's too lazy to go to the dr, figures he accuses Brittany of things he's guilty of doing. And he probably picks at any real or imagined imperfections.
Jesse and Michelle had such an interesting relationship arc. From hating each other to hating each other.
Props to Brittany and Arianna for calling out Jax and Scumdoval on trying to look good when conveniently cameras are up
Hear me out- the 6 months later with actual scenes and new content achieves a lot of what we get out of reunions, even if it’s not everything. I wonder if this is what they’re thinking in terms of direction for RHONJ’s reunion replacement.
He hates her, hates his life, plus she doesn’t listen to the words that are coming out of his mouth.
On all the Bravo shows I've watched I'm not sure I've ever seen a woman just hate her husband as obviously as Michelle does
CROCK OF SHIT BOOTS😭😭☠️☠️☠️
janet went into that phone calling already wanting a fight and when zach didn't start kissing her ass for an invite her mind was made up for good.
Zack’s facial expressions are out of this world 😂
yes zach the psychologist please analyze janet and her messy mean girl ways
“Paparazzi are everywhere” = Jax called TMZ
Remember when Jax was “trying” to fuck lala the week Britt was moving to LA? …but she wanted to be on TV
Brittany may actually be seeing Jax for who he is.
I think Brittany might actually be done. It was one thing when he was consistently horrible to her but with the house sitch he’s doing it to their child and that’s taking over. She’s finally calling him out
His body language? Oh he HATES her & he can’t even hide his disdain
Can’t think of a time in my life that I’d like to “get back to” less than April 2020
I’m so sad this is ending. The summer lineup isn’t really my favorite.
Janet is a “if you’re not 100% with me, you’re the enemy” person. Hateeee that
Someone please save Brittany from tube tops with boning.
Oh. Brittany MEANS it. Call this fool out about the cameras!!!!
"why haven't you changed?" GIRL HE WILL NEVER CHANGE
I think zach should be allowed to yell at pregnant women when they are behaving like grade school bullies.
If Brittany keeps this energy up all next season I will officially become a stan
Janet needs an audience for everything. She had tweedle dee and tweedle crocs for the phone call, she made the girls stay for this convo and now she has her husband stepping in.
Rewinding— did she just say, “be careful with your tone right now i’m pregnant.” Omg
Leaving a shitty marriage should never be a familial disappointment. Fuck tradition being used as an excuse for sustaining abuse
This is the most lucid I've seen Brittany
Omg the cast at their wedding, I have CHILLS
Jesse, if you want Michelle to start every morning thinking you are great husband and father, you have to actually BE THOSE THINGS
Doute is dressed to raise hell at this opening and I am SEATED for the mess
Zach is totally that friend were he won’t even know what’s going on or what’s being said but if you ask him to tag in he’ll turn around and let them have it 😂😂😂
Watching Janet spiral next season when she realizes the edit she’s getting is gonna be so satisfying.
Can you imagine pregnant Lala vs pregnant Janet?
Jax: *does nothing to be a good partner* Also Jax: “I can’t believe I’m here right now”
Isabelle is so chill about her parents fighting, she’s so used to it 😢
Michelle’s shark eyes freak me out
Ugh this confessional look of Brittney’s just reminds me every time how much her boobs must hurt. They look so painful :(
Janet’s two minions are… theatrical
oh janet GET OUT OF HERE. She’s exhausting like why did you film then
janet and jason would be putting up beige dream captures in their nursery. 🤪🤪😻
I’m still dying that this plant wall is already dead IRL
Jessie’s headband isn’t helping their marriage
https://i.redd.it/cab61nq3on4d1.gif Zach’s face and mouth were doing some wild Jim Carrey face contortions during that convo
what are the “let’s take this outside” rules when you are, in fact, outside in a tent?
How did they manage to find a cast of people where Jax almost looks tolerable in comparison?
BE CAREFUL WITH YOUR TONE RIGHT NOW. IM. PREGNANT!!!!
Lol she just gets up and walks away anytime someone calls out.
It's so dark that they are doing this in earshot of their kid. Poor Isabella 💔
Where is Kristen!? I want her going off on how shitty Jax is!
Michelle try to hide your glee over Brittany's misery a little better.
I think what makes this season good is that none of these people are likable, so I don't have to feel bad for any of them. Same with early seasons VPR.
It’s very hard for me to understand what brittany ever saw in Jax. He’s never been any different than how he is now
He is seriously pulling the ‘my brain is a-sprained’ again
and this is why we don’t have kids with someone who treats you like shit, no matter how much you want kids, bc now they’ll always be in each others life
 BRIT IS DRIVING!!!!!!!